Log for #openttd on 22nd March 2020:
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06:30:27  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kirtangajjar opened issue #8042: Unable to connect to content server
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06:50:30  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #8042: Unable to connect to content server
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07:51:32  <andythenorth_> yo
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09:31:47  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed issue #8042: Unable to connect to content server
09:31:47  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #8042: Unable to connect to content server
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09:42:28  <andythenorth_> it's TrueBrain!
09:43:09  <TrueBrain> is it? :D
09:43:18  <TrueBrain> did you see my question  yesterday in the ticket?
09:43:19  <TrueBrain> :D
09:46:29  <andythenorth_> nah
09:46:31  * andythenorth_ looking
09:46:54  <andythenorth_> TrueBrain which ticket?
09:47:05  <TrueBrain> more thumbnails are wrong :P
09:47:07  <TrueBrain> but those are older :D
09:47:32  <andythenorth_> oic
09:47:33  <TrueBrain> I was hoping you could fix those too :)
09:47:53  <andythenorth_> probably darthrafael as well
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09:53:22  <andythenorth_> I am going to do gardening, but I will fix those in a bit
09:53:48  <andythenorth_> we could automate them, but then we'd have to have pillow or imagemagick in the build :P
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10:13:44  <Samu> hello
10:18:57  <TrueBrain> cool, AWS warns me we are most likely going over (a by me random configured) budget this month, how sweet :)
10:20:22  <TrueBrain> yeah, price of bandwidth is the biggest hit :)
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10:30:23  <SpComb> what's eating up bandwidth?
10:30:33  <SpComb> or transfer, should I say
10:43:16  <TrueBrain> let me see ..
10:43:47  <TrueBrain> yeah, the costs started off with 0.5 dollar per day, and are now 2 dollar per day
10:43:52  <TrueBrain> so that is quiet an increase in traffic :)
10:44:48  <TrueBrain> lol .. from the 12/13th there is a huge increase in traffic :P
10:44:53  <TrueBrain> there might be a correlation with world events :D
10:46:39  <TrueBrain> mostly for 1.9.3 windows binary :)
10:48:04  <TrueBrain> last friday, the game was downloaded from the CDN 1700 times for 1.9.3 and 500 times for 1.10.0-RC1 (all Windows 64bit)
10:48:13  <TrueBrain> Linux ofc goes via distros,so we have no numbers for that
10:48:37  <TrueBrain> 6th of March, 2 weeks early, this was 900 times for 1.9.3 and 350 times for 1.10.0-RC1
10:48:44  <TrueBrain> so ... twice as much people downloading the game? :)
10:50:50  <Samu> 1.9.3 more popular than 1.10?
10:51:26  <TrueBrain> 10% of the games are from China btw :D At least, GeoIP says so
10:51:42  <TrueBrain> 25% even on Friday
10:51:51  <TrueBrain> US next with 11%
10:51:53  <TrueBrain> that is new
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10:54:54  <TrueBrain> so yeah, the price increase is totally justified :) I like how stable everything is humming on AWS .. we really should migrate the rest too :D
10:54:59  <TrueBrain> wish I had more free time :P
11:01:12  <Wolf01> I have like 1.5 more hours (because I don't need to move) but I can't understand where they go, because I'm doing the same things in the same time and no more things
11:08:02  <TrueBrain> haha, I have the same issue :D
11:08:08  <TrueBrain> puzzling isn't it?
11:08:39  <Wolf01> Yes, it looks like that puzzle with triangles where you add a square and maintains the same area
11:39:03  <TrueBrain> right, so BaNaNaS ... were did I leave that .. hmm ..
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12:09:41  <andythenorth> so
12:09:51  <andythenorth> I need to lop some branches off a tree
12:09:56  <andythenorth> under the tree is a hot tub
12:10:03  <andythenorth> the hot tub is inflatable
12:10:17  <andythenorth> [this is not a dungeon text adventure]
12:11:41  <andythenorth> TrueBrain also see player charts here, can basically see EU schools closing last week
12:23:53  <TrueBrain> you and your tanks
12:24:13  <andythenorth> it's mostly a maths game :P
12:27:16  <TrueBrain> okay, seems I did most of the TODOs for the API
12:27:24  <TrueBrain> next step would be to make it run on AWS
12:27:43  <TrueBrain> but for that it also kinda needs the frontend :D
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14:02:52  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #8035: Fix: Non-applicable goal in global goals list is no longer clickable
14:05:14  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #8033: Change: A company goal type will open the company overview window when clicked
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14:16:05  <TrueBrain> okay, locally you can now add content and see it back ingame :)
14:16:13  <TrueBrain> well, you have to restart the server, as it doesn't notice file-changes yet
14:16:15  <TrueBrain> but that is about it :P
14:16:45  <andythenorth> still winning
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14:33:11  <supermop_Home_> good morning
14:37:18  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth opened pull request #154: Fix: pixelated thumbnail images
14:37:24  <andythenorth> hello supermop_Home_
14:40:08  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 approved pull request #154: Fix: pixelated thumbnail images
14:59:18  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain merged pull request #154: Fix: pixelated thumbnail images
14:59:22  <TrueBrain> ty andythenorth  :)
14:59:34  <andythenorth> NO
14:59:35  <andythenorth> NP
15:05:07  <TrueBrain> that really does look a lot better
15:05:30  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.3.5
15:05:49  <TrueBrain> lets move that to production shall we ;)
15:21:04  <LordAro> good morning
15:23:46  <LordAro> right, so we've got a week
15:23:50  <LordAro> what still needs doing?
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15:33:32  <TrueBrain> backports? language backports?
15:38:09  <LordAro> i think there's already an open backports PR
15:38:18  <LordAro> not sure if there's anything else that needs adding to it
15:38:41  <LordAro> should probably look deeper into the remaining pathfinder issues
15:38:43  <TrueBrain> lot of language changes not backported I see :) That is a positive thing, I guess, that translators are still really ative
15:38:58  <LordAro> yes, language backports also needed
15:39:07  <LordAro> i should dig out frosch's script..
15:39:45  <TrueBrain> <- script I wrote for 1.9 series
15:39:57  <TrueBrain> needs to be executed from the release branch
15:40:13  <LordAro> that'll do
15:40:21  * glx added some "backport requested" labels
15:40:22  <TrueBrain> it first checks what was added in master to english.txt, and blacklists those IDs .. after that, it syncs up the rest of the languages based on that information
15:40:26  <TrueBrain> no promises of quality etc :P
15:40:33  <LordAro> :)
15:40:46  <LordAro>
15:40:59  <glx> and many of them are not reviewed yet
15:41:48  <TrueBrain> hmm .. we could use a bot, that unmarks "backport requested" once such PRs are merged ... NO TRUEBRAIN, FOCUS! BaNaNaS first .. ffs :P
15:42:01  <TrueBrain> dinner time, in that case
15:45:37  <glx> there's a label for backported PRs
15:45:48  <glx> but not automatic yet
15:47:41  <glx> hmm a label that tells if it's already in an apply backport PR would be nice too
16:28:54  <Eddi|zuHause> "backport requested", "backport in progress", "backported"?
16:30:08  <Eddi|zuHause> and discard all "backported" labels when a new release candidate branch is created
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17:14:59  <Fahrradkette> hi everybody. In FIRS 3 is it possible to have primary industries increase production beyond gung-ho, i.e. like "regular" production goes up (mby only if farm/eng supplies are constantly deliverd)
17:30:44  <andythenorth> no
17:30:58  <andythenorth> I have considered that idea though
17:50:11  <Fahrradkette> so having feeder service is kinda pointless i guess?
17:59:55  <andythenorth> not sure
18:00:25  <andythenorth> I just deliver supplies and don't worry about it :)
18:06:32  <andythenorth> LordAro
18:10:51  <Wolf01> Hmmm, we reached full lockdown now
18:13:11  <andythenorth> new case rate fell for first time
18:13:16  <andythenorth> been waiting to see that
18:13:31  <andythenorth> Italian case growth in spite of lockdown was worrying
18:13:50  <Wolf01> The price of transparency
18:18:47  <LordAro> andythenorth: trouble is, all of these measures have a certain amount of time before they are shown to have any effect
18:19:00  <andythenorth> good point
18:19:10  <andythenorth> it's hard to remember who did what when :)
18:19:20  <andythenorth> it's hard to remember what day it is some days :)
18:19:57  <LordAro> i've been wondering whether Boris' daily "announcements" are actually a good idea, given he's now under pressure to announce something new every day
18:20:03  <Eddi|zuHause> what are days?
18:23:25  <andythenorth> LordAro have you read the published behavioural insights stuff?
18:23:43  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause days are when the clock changes over
18:23:59  <LordAro> andythenorth: nope
18:24:16  <Eddi|zuHause> you mean twice a year?
18:24:19  <andythenorth>
18:24:44  <andythenorth> our PM may not be the ideal vehicle for this situation
18:25:08  <Eddi|zuHause> ...or, any situation, really? :p
18:25:23  <andythenorth> he's great for the situation where you need Boris
18:25:30  <andythenorth> i.e. you are Boris
18:25:36  <andythenorth> but the government communications have to walk a line between sounding scary enough to get compliance, and mild enough to get compliance
18:26:12  <andythenorth> it's very easy to get compliance from the clowns who repost about 80% simultaneous infections and total societal collapse on Facebook
18:26:28  <andythenorth> it's why they staged the pub announcement
18:26:54  <andythenorth> we really *don't* want to be doing this as a law-and-order matter
18:28:31  <rotterdxm> same here in NL
18:28:40  <rotterdxm> which I appreciate, ngl
18:41:01  <andythenorth> it's much harder to get compliance from the keep-calm-and-carry-on crowd
18:41:21  <andythenorth> and if its too stringent, they just think bugger you, I'm English
18:45:48  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master
18:45:48  <DorpsGek_III_>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:56:59  <nielsm> remember to go vote for the title screen
18:57:48  <andythenorth> please
18:58:50  <andythenorth> do we know what's needed to ad it to the repo?
18:58:53  <andythenorth> add *
18:59:04  <LordAro> replace opntitle.dat
18:59:06  <LordAro> done
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19:02:06  <LordAro> oh, and update credits, i think
19:02:28  <andythenorth> \o/
19:03:55  * LordAro voted
19:04:00  <LordAro> apparently not for the favourite
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19:44:32  <supermop_Home_> hello
19:45:30  <supermop_Home_> weather has gotten very nice the past few days to coincide with no one supposed to go out
19:45:58  <LordAro> likewise across the Atlantic
19:46:29  <supermop_Home_> lots of teens home from school and 20-ish people home from university, cooped up in new York apartments with their parents..
19:46:37  <LordAro>
19:46:38  <supermop_Home_> not sure how long compliance will last
19:46:54  <supermop_Home_> we are still allowed to go for walks and runs
19:47:33  <supermop_Home_> running Friday night along the river in 70 degree weather, was full of 20-somethings hanging out....
19:50:41  <supermop_Home_> as fate would have it I've just been working on a deadline all week anyway so I don't really notice not being able to go out
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20:24:56  <Samu> I'm staring at screenshots
20:25:04  <Samu> trying to decide where to vote
20:32:36  <Samu> well i'm down to 3
20:46:52  <Samu> voted
20:47:16  <Samu> we can already see the results'
20:47:38  <Samu> my choice is losing :(
20:47:42  <Samu> typical
20:52:09  <andythenorth> truck has a lot of axles
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21:19:30  <glx> super heavy truck I guess
21:27:56  <Eddi|zuHause> steel does tend to have high weight for its volume
21:45:23  <andythenorth> some kind of bridge formula
21:45:32  <andythenorth> and high max weights
21:45:35  <andythenorth> 74t trucks
21:48:51  <supermop_Home_> andythenorth well I guess they are still making steel in ohio?
21:48:57  <supermop_Home_> as of last week at least
21:49:03  <andythenorth> EAF minimills
21:49:18  <supermop_Home_> i guess you don't need to stand that close to each other at a steelmill
21:49:36  <snail_UES_> supermop_Home_: Trump needs them to keep working, or they won’t vote for him anymore :p
21:49:44  <snail_UES_> OH is an important swing state...
21:49:56  <andythenorth> oof
21:55:30  <spnda> Idk if anyone knows any solution to this. But on my NRS patch I keep getting crashes if I have a my default graphics reference a switch, then the spritelayout.
21:55:46  <spnda> It crashes on DrawTileSSeqStruct::IsTerminator() in sprite.h:43
21:58:58  <Eddi|zuHause> was ohio one of the states where they cancelled the election?
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22:19:44  <andythenorth> ouch
22:19:55  <andythenorth> I just looked up UK annual death rate from smoking
22:20:40  <LordAro> people die a lot, as it turns out
22:21:01  <andythenorth> 78k attributable directly to smoking per year
22:21:21  <andythenorth> I have a circle of friends on social media who are campaigning for complete UK lockdown
22:21:36  <andythenorth> I was just curious if they campaign to make smoking illegal also
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22:26:29  <milek7> andythenorth: smoking isn't infectious, though
22:26:35  <andythenorth> no
22:26:41  <andythenorth> and it's self-inflicted
22:26:46  <andythenorth> the argument doesn't hold up
22:27:17  <andythenorth> just that there's stuff that kills us all the time, but we don't declare martial law to prevent it
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22:30:44  <milek7> I don't follow
22:31:07  <milek7> lockdown for other stuff won't help, it works only for infections
22:31:25  <andythenorth> lockdown of smoking would prevent smoking
22:31:33  <andythenorth> lockdown of food would prevent obesity
22:31:51  <andythenorth> lockdown of alcohol would prevent accident, violence, and alcohol related illness
22:32:10  <andythenorth> I'm not against social distancing and enforced compliance of that
22:32:20  <andythenorth> just have some friends who are quite....dunno
22:32:36  <milek7> because prohibiting drugs prevent addictions? ... oh wait
22:32:36  <andythenorth> dramatic about it
22:33:30  <andythenorth> I don't want to look like I'm arguing against something I support :)
22:33:35  <andythenorth> I just think drama doesn't help much
22:34:03  <andythenorth> calling for 'the army should be on the streets' etc
22:34:14  <andythenorth> also these are my most left-wing, marxist friends
22:34:22  <andythenorth> any other time they'd be so against the state
22:36:22  <milek7> from outside, UK inaction seems insane
22:37:12  <andythenorth> media distorts
22:37:50  <andythenorth> all restaurants, pubs are shut, up to 2m people losing jobs, most people in office jobs working at home
22:38:05  <andythenorth> all non-essential operations cancelled to free up hospitals
22:38:20  <andythenorth> most GP surgeries closed to patients
22:38:39  <andythenorth> schools closed
22:39:32  <andythenorth> death rate from Italy is scary, so this is proportionate
22:40:24  <andythenorth> but suicides, cancer deaths, mental health issues, divorce and family breakdown, loss of education, bankruptcies also take a toll
22:40:54  * andythenorth doesn't think we need the army on the streets
22:41:26  <andythenorth> I would say this to my friends, but it's not the time or place :)
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22:46:49  <milek7> right. (at beginning you just threw one of these annoying "but X is worse!" fallacies, that got me triggered)
22:48:34  <andythenorth> yeah that's a bit like "but what about x" which isn't helpful now (or ever)
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22:58:05  <andythenorth> snail_UES_ recolour steam engines to suit consist cargo? o_O
22:58:10  <andythenorth> more black if it's freight?
22:58:14  <andythenorth> etc
22:58:22  <snail_UES_> that would be fun
22:58:49  <snail_UES_> in my set I’m following historical liveries, but usually, colorful engines were used for passenger service
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22:59:25  <snail_UES_> with few exceptions (Germany, Italy…)
23:01:32  <andythenorth> eh this train is quite overpowered
23:04:15  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i've seen worse
23:04:30  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: like, a 3000hp diesel engine for one single passenger car
23:12:11  <andythenorth> oops bedtime
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23:30:14  <supermop_Home_> snail_UES_ Ohio is kind of too far gone to be a swing state anymore
23:51:09  <snail_UES_> supermop_Home_: really? who do you think will win there?
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