Log for #openttd on 29th September 2020:
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10:43:30  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain opened pull request #20: Fix: change footer to point to new home for eints
10:43:55  <TrueBrain> I do not know if this is okay to do; but I am sure frosch will tell me off if it is not :)
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12:23:24  <andythenorth> FLHerne
12:23:55  <andythenorth> 13/8 articulated auto-coach x 2, and a 6/8 engine = 2 tiles
12:28:13  <FLHerne> The ones in the photo aren't articulated?
12:28:26  <FLHerne> 2 tiles is a useful length for little branches
12:28:41  <andythenorth> no, but they have to have the control gear, so they're effectively one unit for game terms
12:28:56  <andythenorth> dunno how I'd get mail capacity in :P
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13:39:03  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] mtwzim opened issue #21: [pt_BR] Translator access request
13:51:38  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] mtwzim closed issue #21: [pt_BR] Translator access request
13:55:47  <LordAro> sure
14:08:24  <TrueBrain> I guess he changed his mind? :)
14:11:53  <TrueBrain> I am looking into adding GitHub OAuth to mediawiki, but holy crap
14:12:01  <TrueBrain> I remember why I really REALLY do not like mediawiki
14:12:17  <TrueBrain> its a complete shit-show :P
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15:01:54  <LordAro> hehe
15:05:03  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] FLHerne commented on issue #21: [pt_BR] Translator access request
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15:31:55  <TrueBrain> nice follow-up FLHerne  :)
15:32:14  <TrueBrain> okay ... I found a mediawiki extension that works (after writing some PHP .. I feel dirty) with Github Oauth
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15:34:56  <TrueBrain> the mediawiki docker uses index.php in the URL
15:34:58  <TrueBrain> it is SO UGLY
15:35:47  <andythenorth> TrueBrain are you religious? I could go to church and light a candle for your soul (PHP sins)
15:35:54  * andythenorth is not religious, but likes fire
15:36:20  <TrueBrain> I feel dirty .. that doesn't make it a sin, you silly :P
15:36:38  <andythenorth> I don't know about these things TBH
15:37:13  <andythenorth> my religious knowledge is mostly limited to
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15:40:11  <Eddi|zuHause> do you know this problem when you have a remote desktop session within a teamviewer session, and get totally lost on which of the 3 taskbars you have to click on to do a thing?
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15:49:40  <TrueBrain> okay, I have 3 plugins I don't know why we have them, and we have namespaces I do not understand ..
15:49:57  <TrueBrain> otherwise, it seems I have mediawiki running in a docker of sorts .. now I need to import the current content :P
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16:30:13  <LordAro> TrueBrain: :)
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17:26:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 approved pull request #20: Fix: change footer to point to new home for eints
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17:46:03  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro opened pull request #8323: Add GH Actions CI workflow
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17:46:21  <LordAro> TrueBrain: tada
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18:01:36  <TrueBrain> Nice!! I see no issues by looking it over; let's see if glx wants to review it properly :D
18:08:02  <frosch123> TrueBrain: you found a way to host the wiki database?
18:10:42  <TrueBrain> It won't be cheap, but it buys some time to fix this properly
18:11:10  <TrueBrain> As in, old server vs AWS db, old server is more expensive :p
18:11:21  <TrueBrain> Anyway, I am just exploring if it can be done
18:11:53  <frosch123> :)
18:12:33  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #8323: Add GH Actions CI workflow
18:12:55  <LordAro> i've also been playing around with a clang-format file again
18:13:17  <LordAro> can't get the "data tables" to be formatted nicely
18:13:34  <LordAro> (and that's leaving aside the window definitions, which will have to be excluded from formatting)
18:14:24  <frosch123> can't you exclude src/table ?
18:14:36  <LordAro> i don't mean those tables
18:14:52  <frosch123> more tables :)
18:15:11  <LordAro> i mean things like `int foo[] some_array_literal = {\n    foo(),\n    bar()\n};`
18:15:46  <LordAro> it likes to turn it into (assuming it goes over the line length limit) `int foo[] some_array_literal = {foo(),\n             bar()};
18:15:56  <LordAro> which is not nice
18:40:58  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] yazalo opened issue #22: [pl_PL] Translator access request
18:42:28  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] LordAro commented on issue #22: [pl_PL] Translator access request
18:48:56  <TrueBrain> frosch123: simply put, how it looks currently, it will cost between 10 and 20 dollar a month to run the database in AWS .. which is rather absurd for what it does :P
18:49:09  <TrueBrain> so there is an incentive to move to a less .. demanding way of serving a wiki
18:50:24  <TrueBrain> <- 4 things I have no clue about if they are needed and/or what they do :P
18:51:00  <frosch123> parserfunctions are used in all the templates
18:51:16  <frosch123> i don't remember any graphviz stuff
18:51:27  <frosch123> checkuser allows admins to see ips of users or so
18:51:32  <TrueBrain> if you open the URL of parserfunctions, it reads most functions are now part of the base
18:51:38  <TrueBrain> just .. no clue if that includes everything :P
18:53:41  <frosch123> the url only tells me that it is bundled with mediawiki
18:53:45  <frosch123> but you still need to activate it
18:53:48  <LordAro> ^
18:55:01  <TrueBrain> the wording is so incredibly weird to me
18:55:02  <frosch123> so, we only need an oauth add-on, rest is configuration
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18:55:14  <TrueBrain> "Since MediaWiki 1.15, ParserFunctions has incorporated most (but not all) of the functions from the StringFunctions extension, which may be enabled or disabled "
18:55:23  <TrueBrain> what does 1.15 have to do with an extension
18:55:28  <TrueBrain> but okay, I will just leave it activated :)
18:55:35  <TrueBrain> the oauth is running
18:55:45  <frosch123> that is the wrong paragraph you are reading
18:55:50  <frosch123> you need to read the red box at the top
18:55:52  <TrueBrain> it was ... a challenge, to find an extension that worked, was maintained, and understood Github
18:55:54  <LordAro> 1.15 is the version that the extension was bundled with the base install
18:56:09  <LordAro> most extensions are not on github, they're on mediawiki's internal git
18:56:09  <TrueBrain> frosch123: gotcha ... totally missed that box ..
18:56:12  <TrueBrain> looked like an ad
18:56:17  <TrueBrain> so ... yeah ... I no longer see those :D
18:56:19  <frosch123> 1.15: integrate add-on "stringfunctions" into add-on "parserfunctions". 1.18: bundle "parserfunctions" with main
18:56:35  <TrueBrain> so don't download, only activate, I can do that :D
18:56:50  <TrueBrain> and we drop GraphViz en CheckUser
18:56:52  <TrueBrain> right?
18:56:58  <frosch123> yes
18:57:05  <TrueBrain> that leaves me puzzled with what those namespaces are :D
18:57:15  <frosch123> they are old :)
18:57:18  <frosch123> very old
18:57:30  <LordAro> largely unused, i would think
18:57:38  <frosch123> most of the manual is in main, "manual" only contains like 2 pages or so
18:57:55  <frosch123> same with "scenario"
18:57:56  <TrueBrain> so I can drop that statement?
18:57:57  <TrueBrain> cool :P
18:58:13  <frosch123> if you migrate the pages into main
18:58:28  <LordAro> Manual:foo -> Manual/foo should do
18:58:33  <frosch123> no idea whether we can move the pages and then delete the namespace
18:58:36  <TrueBrain> I wouldn't know how to migrate anything :D
18:58:46  <frosch123> TrueBrain: then keep the namespaces :)
18:58:48  <TrueBrain> can we already move the pages? :)
18:59:01  <frosch123> if we keep all the wiki-mess, the namespaces are the smallest problem
18:59:12  <TrueBrain> what would you suggest?
18:59:27  <TrueBrain> Username:TrueBrain
18:59:27  <TrueBrain> Member of groups:Autoconfirmed users, Users
18:59:31  <TrueBrain> \o/
18:59:55  <TrueBrain> I have disabled "real name" and "email"
19:00:05  <TrueBrain> as that requires more scope in the oauth, for .. no real reason
19:00:14  <TrueBrain> so you cannot receive emails because of Wiki updates
19:02:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain opened pull request #33: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:02:31  <frosch123> TrueBrain: in my list there is also a "OpenTTD" and "OpenTTD talk" namespace
19:02:46  <LordAro> i think those are the defaults
19:02:48  <TrueBrain> the list I just gave you is how the current mediawiki is configured :)
19:02:56  <LordAro> <wiki> & <wiki> Talk
19:03:03  <LordAro> config just defines extras
19:04:01  <TrueBrain> anyway frosch123 , I was considering just copying the database, and let mediawiki do its automigration magic
19:04:12  <TrueBrain> if there are better ways ..
19:04:23  <TrueBrain> but again, I see this as plan B, if we cannot get gollum to work properly
19:04:25  <frosch123> TrueBrain: <- that's the list my script extracted via the api
19:04:43  <TrueBrain> so 105/106 did go wrong, funny :P
19:04:57  <frosch123> noone noticed in 15 years :)
19:05:01  <TrueBrain> anyway, this means absolutely nothing to me, sadly .. I don't know nor understand mediawiki :P
19:05:25  <frosch123> well, each page has a namespace and a title
19:05:31  <frosch123> the namespace is an interger, the title is a string
19:05:56  <frosch123> the integer is mapped with your configuration to a name, though there are also defaults
19:06:25  <frosch123> maybe "openttd" is also some kind of default, since it is < 100
19:07:45  <frosch123> pff, "openttd" has a ton of pages:
19:07:56  <TrueBrain> 5 minutes to analyze DorpsGek via CodeQL (instead of, which is the same)
19:08:30  <LordAro> did it find anything different?
19:08:55  <TrueBrain> no, it runs the same CodeQL as far as I can tell
19:08:59  <TrueBrain> but it integrates with GitHub better
19:09:08  <TrueBrain> let me find a repo with alerts
19:09:32  <TrueBrain> no, lgtm scans for more, I now notice
19:10:54  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain opened pull request #13: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:10:59  <TrueBrain> lets try a repo of which I know has an alert
19:12:01  <TrueBrain> another mail from GitHub about a change in their API? We haven't used that for a while now ..
19:12:36  <TrueBrain> ah, no, I know .. configuration :D
19:15:29  <TrueBrain> no alerts found :o
19:15:32  <TrueBrain> that is odd :P
19:16:24  <TrueBrain> clearly it does not scan for unused local variable :)
19:23:32  <TrueBrain> okay, by default it only runs a very few amount of checks
19:24:47  <TrueBrain> documentation is still a big vague, but that happens with new stuff
19:26:47  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #33: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:29:45  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #33: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:31:45  <TrueBrain> very unclear how this works :P
19:33:33  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain closed pull request #33: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:33:38  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain closed pull request #13: Add: [Actions] CodeQL analyze on push/pull-request
19:33:48  <TrueBrain> will fiddle with it some more in less noise :)
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