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10:52:08 <andythenorth> I am dressed 10:52:12 <andythenorth> I stopped not-dressing 10:52:21 <andythenorth> I have not outsided though 10:55:08 <reldred> I am dressed 10:55:18 <reldred> I should probably be less dressed 10:55:26 <reldred> And in a comfortable bed 11:05:44 <petern> Gosh, a blog. 11:13:12 <reldred> Didn’t know those were still a thing 11:13:27 <reldred> How quaint 11:50:03 <petern> Ahh, it's the Stacked display plane that makes the layout go weird. 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Maybe not. I could get an entry-level bike for that these days... 12:58:25 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 13:24:58 *** Xaroth8 has quit IRC 13:25:18 *** Xaroth8 has joined #openttd 13:38:46 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:44:31 <dP> Oof, finally got out of Russia, can start to catch up on chat 😆 13:45:03 <dP> Probably no coding for a while though 13:45:47 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:50:20 <TallTyler> No Discord in Russia? 13:50:55 <LordAro> congrats 13:53:06 <dP> TallTyler: There is, I was just occupied with other stuff 13:55:29 <dP> Went by car to Georgia, so like 35 hours from Saint Petersburg to border, 75 hours on the border to leave Russia and about 15 more to enter Georgia 13:55:42 <dP> All without stopping 13:56:00 <dP> For long I mean 13:56:13 <TallTyler> Yikes 13:56:45 <dP> Huge jam on the border, had to constant be ready to move so none else takes the place 13:57:17 <dP> Luckily we had 3 drivers and were used to traveling by car 13:58:02 <dP> For most people it's disaster 13:58:37 <TallTyler> Glad to hear you made it out safely 13:59:31 <dP> Yeah, ty 14:04:38 <supermop_toil> british boat still here, but better view of it today 14:05:50 <supermop_toil> dP: glad you made it 14:06:13 <supermop_toil> i heard the lines were very long 14:10:15 <dP> Ty 14:12:26 <supermop_toil> finnish border is totally closed now i guess? 14:14:29 <dP> Length isn't a problem, but do many people breaking rules that those that play by the book don't move at all 14:14:45 <dP> Finish border was fine last time I checked 14:14:53 <dP> But I don't have a visa 14:15:15 <dP> Also I want to go to Turkey atm 14:25:14 <dP> Just checked recent reports, some people crossed Finnish border today without much trouble 14:26:03 <supermop_toil> I've heard they have agreed to close the border but did not officially state when yet 14:26:34 <dP> Maybe 14:27:59 <dP> For all these I was traveling I heard something about closing the border each day 14:28:00 <dP> All were just fud 14:28:25 <dP> By those who make money on panic 14:33:30 <supermop_toil> looks like midnight friday per announcement by Finnish Government 14:33:33 <supermop_toil> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/world/europe/finland-border-russia.html?smid=url-share 14:34:06 <supermop_toil> hope your can make it onward to turkey ok 14:38:46 *** jpw has joined #openttd 14:39:11 <dP> supermop_toil: Should be simple enough 14:39:56 <dP> And even if I can't Georgia is a nice country too 😆 14:42:50 <supermop_toil> good wine there 14:43:05 <supermop_toil> and cheesey bread things 14:43:23 <dP> Yeah, I don't drink alcohol though 😅 14:43:43 <supermop_toil> you'll just have to appreciate it in theory then 14:52:31 <petern> Hmm, station cargo filter could do with a scrollbar or something 14:53:05 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:02:10 <ag> I hope you are safe 15:02:28 <ag> meanwhile peyla is fighting on the frontier 15:23:15 <petern> Mmm, late 80s electronic music 15:34:05 <supermop_toil> petern: sounds good 15:36:25 <FLHerne> ag: wow, I didn't realise 15:48:40 <FLHerne> I hope he's ok 15:51:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke updated pull request #10060: Fix #9876: MacBook Touch Bar crash / render issues w/ 32bpp graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10060 15:53:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke commented on pull request #10060: Fix #9876: MacBook Touch Bar crash / render issues w/ 32bpp graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10060#issuecomment-1262479290 16:06:03 *** wallabra_ has joined #openttd 16:08:18 <petern> I think those MP3s were mad in the late 80s too, sounded shit like a wobbly tape. 16:08:22 <petern> *made 16:11:12 *** wallabra has quit IRC 16:11:12 *** wallabra_ is now known as wallabra 16:18:13 *** amal[m] has joined #openttd 16:18:15 *** andythenorth[m] has joined #openttd 16:18:15 *** aperezdc__ has joined #openttd 16:18:15 *** blikjeham[m] has joined #openttd 16:18:15 *** cawal[m] has joined #openttd 16:18:16 *** christoph[m] has joined #openttd 16:18:16 *** 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https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#issuecomment-1262616266 17:53:32 <TallTyler> Do you only have objects for the selected economy? 17:54:17 <andythenorth> no 17:54:26 <andythenorth> well yes, but the IDs are currently global 17:55:31 <TallTyler> Empty ground tiles would get you closer to the target 😛 18:08:05 <Bouke> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1025106707640234135/unknown.png 18:08:05 <Bouke> Is there a way to scope the permissions of GitHub authorizations to a specific repository? The default scope (r/w all) is kinda scary. 18:09:42 <andythenorth> nmlc info: Object items: 247/256 18:15:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais updated pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058 18:20:22 <pickpacket> How many devs are actively working on openttd? The game code I mean, not counting NewGRF development or related tools 18:21:53 *** Markk has quit IRC 18:24:58 *** Markk has joined #openttd 18:25:16 <petern> andythenorth: I honestly can't stand non-chunky bevels any more. 18:25:25 <andythenorth> screenshots 18:27:09 <andythenorth> oo nmlc info: Object items: 252/256 18:27:16 <andythenorth> 4 away from the high score 18:27:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Bouke commented on pull request #10055: Fix: reduce framerate overhead in Train::Tick https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10055#issuecomment-1262661170 18:27:49 <andythenorth> can I get it done before these fishfingers are cooked? 😛 18:36:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais updated pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058 18:37:52 <andythenorth> The answer was no 18:38:00 <andythenorth> Also rebase -i with 'drop' can be unwise 18:38:09 <andythenorth> that's some work I won't be getting back 😛 18:38:14 <andythenorth> unless I learn how to reflog 18:39:10 <FLHerne> pickpacket: about 10, but it seems to vary a lot 18:39:32 <FLHerne> now is a busy time 18:40:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais updated pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058 18:42:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#issuecomment-1262675353 18:43:42 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 18:44:17 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 18:44:26 <andythenorth> meh and I did push -f after the drop 😦 18:44:29 <andythenorth> silly 18:47:52 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1025116720286933012/Pretbourne_Transport_1952-02-13.png 18:48:54 <petern> I could use the bitmap font, but that is of course still 1x, 2x or 4x only. 18:51:07 <andythenorth> At least that one is legible 18:51:20 *** wallabra_ has joined #openttd 18:55:34 *** wallabra has quit IRC 18:58:25 <glx[d]> Bouke: I think you can restrict once you authorised, but IIRC there's no way to reduce the permissions before accepting ( TrueBrain should know better) 18:58:45 <glx[d]> And he's annoyed by this too 18:59:45 <petern> andythenorth: that cargo filter needs sorting though 18:59:48 <andythenorth> what font is it petern ? 18:59:56 <andythenorth> lol that cargo filter 19:00:01 <Bouke> glx[d]: That's only for "Installed GitHub Apps" -- I couldn't find this for "Authorized OAuth Apps". 19:00:07 <petern> andythenorth: >public sans 19:00:07 <andythenorth> every time I pick another meaningless 2 letter acronym for FIRS 19:00:11 <andythenorth> something dies inside 19:00:21 <andythenorth> they're not even forced to be 2 chars 19:00:26 <petern> Haha 19:00:26 <andythenorth> it's arbitrary convention 😛 19:00:39 <andythenorth> but 4 chars doesn't make it better, just wider 19:00:56 *** wallabra has joined #openttd 19:01:25 <petern> Cargo Flow Legend is not much better. 19:01:36 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1025120175760097360/unknown.png 19:01:36 *** wallabra_ has quit IRC 19:01:48 <andythenorth> ^ place your bets on whether those show the cargo name in a tooltip 19:04:53 <andythenorth> oh git reflog is easy 19:05:11 <andythenorth> checkout my dropped commit, diff to file, reapply with patch 😛 19:06:26 <frosch> don't bother with the cargo filter 19:06:41 <frosch> i want to create a PR in the next days, which removes it :p 19:06:42 <andythenorth> why don't we use the same filter in vehicle buy menu? 19:06:45 <andythenorth> more colourful 19:06:51 <andythenorth> also in livery refits 19:06:55 <andythenorth> livery callback 19:07:10 <andythenorth> "andythenorth is telling lies again" 19:07:52 <andythenorth> oh dear 19:07:52 <andythenorth> `BaseException: ('Object ID limit exceeded', 255, 'wire_rod_mill_object_08')` 19:07:56 <andythenorth> how tragic 19:08:19 <andythenorth> whatever can I do? 😛 19:09:13 <Bouke> probably get those overcooked fishfingers out of the pan? 😉 19:09:52 <andythenorth> yeah I did that 🙂 19:09:55 <andythenorth> good reminder though 19:10:25 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:11:14 <petern> Well this patch touches the station cargo filter, but only the layout. 19:11:32 * andythenorth comments out that one object 19:11:49 <andythenorth> oh my counter is wrong 19:11:54 <andythenorth> nmlc info: Object items: 254/256 19:12:01 <andythenorth> so I did win the prize 19:12:06 <andythenorth> but I have to fix my guard 19:12:32 <petern> I'm not sure I ever actually use that filter though. 19:12:46 <TrueBrain> glx[d]: There is not 😦 19:13:04 <TrueBrain> one of the reasons I think I am going to give up on this "no server" part of TrueGRF 19:21:31 <petern> Rise of the Triads OST is quite nostalgic but perhaps a bit too energetic for OpenTTD. 19:21:46 <petern> Also, no doubt dodgy licensing. 19:28:29 <petern> Our MIDI player is amusing if the game stalls. 19:34:46 *** Flygon has quit IRC 19:39:29 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:47:45 <andythenorth> hmm shot-blasting workshop 19:47:52 <andythenorth> bending factory 19:47:57 <andythenorth> so much metal working 19:52:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#pullrequestreview-1125911211 19:57:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#issuecomment-1262747021 20:09:17 *** wallabra has quit IRC 20:10:22 <supermop_toil> thai electronicstown when? 20:10:51 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:11:54 *** wallabra has joined #openttd 20:12:29 <Bouke> TrueBrain: regardless, the editor is very nice 20:17:30 <TrueBrain> thank you thank you. I wish I had time to improve on it 🙂 20:18:07 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:21:48 <Bouke> I wish I had the gfx skills to actually use such a tool 🙂 20:22:31 <glx[d]> https://docs.github.com/en/developers/apps/building-oauth-apps/scopes-for-oauth-apps#available-scopes <-- the choice is indeed quite limited 20:23:43 <glx[d]> if you need to write to a repo it's full access or nothing 20:24:07 <Bouke> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1025140944871374888/average-speed.mov 20:24:07 <Bouke> I'm working on something to show average speed across tiles. Currently I've added it to the tile info window, however I'd like to show some sort of map overlay. Probably color tiles from green-to-red depending on their relative speed. I could use a pointer on how to draw an overlay onto a tile, if that's even possible? 20:25:39 <glx[d]> adding overlay is not very hard, but usually it's very expensive 20:29:06 <Bouke> Any idea how I'd go about it? 20:29:44 <glx[d]> https://github.com/nielsmh/OpenTTD/commits/drawpf <-- it was ugly but it worked 20:39:16 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:42:48 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:45:48 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:50:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #10058: Feature: [UI] Allow configuring AI/Game Script and NewGRF from world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#issuecomment-1262800860 20:52:36 <Bouke> glx[d]: ah perfect! (little ship named "x") 20:53:40 <glx[d]> it should be possible to use a cleaner opti