Log for #openttdcoop on 1st May 2009:
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05:34:17  <TheJosh> !players
05:34:19  <PublicServer> TheJosh: There are currently no clients connected to the server
05:34:23  <TheJosh> noooooo
05:35:23  <TheJosh> !password
05:35:23  <PublicServer> TheJosh: hocked
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05:36:24  <TheJosh> someone deleted my network plan
05:36:26  <TheJosh> what a jip
05:36:59  <FiCE> want to rebuild?
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05:37:04  <gleeb> you mean gyp
05:37:10  <TheJosh> FiCE
05:37:25  <TheJosh> FiCE: thats not the point. people shouldnt jus tremove netowrk plans
05:37:25  <FiCE> (wasn't me heh)
05:37:29  <FiCE> yeah
05:37:33  <TheJosh> even if it was crap
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05:38:02  <gleeb> !password
05:38:03  <PublicServer> gleeb: hocked
05:38:09  <TheJosh> personally, I thought it was a great plan
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05:38:48  <TheJosh> it must of gotten lost when the server version was upgraded
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06:01:50  <Sol2> lol
06:01:53  <Sol2> updated again
06:01:55  <Sol2> -.-...
06:02:02  <Sol2> i have r16137
06:02:06  <Sol2> T^T
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07:53:22  <Thijs> !password
07:53:22  <PublicServer> Thijs: fumble
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08:44:34  <Thijs> Hi, is anyone around? I would like to make some adjustments, nut i'm the only one logged in
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09:22:50  <tneo> !password
09:22:50  <PublicServer> tneo: ornate
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09:56:15  <Mark> morning
09:56:37  <Mark> !password
09:56:37  <PublicServer> Mark: shoves
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09:58:16  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi
09:59:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> who says Ammler's plan is rubbish?
10:00:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> dunno
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10:00:41  <Zubab> where can i get openttd 0.6.3
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10:00:56  <Ammler> :-(
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10:01:15  <Ammler> Zubab: download.openttd.org
10:01:16  <Mark> huh
10:01:19  <Mark> haha
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10:02:47  <Thijs> !password
10:02:48  <PublicServer> Thijs: caress
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10:04:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> Thijs: i did something similair in 96
10:04:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i know we have tried somthing similar before
10:05:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'll have a look at that one
10:05:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> you'll want CL=TL
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10:05:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> dont underestimate the traffic
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10:08:30  <Thijs2> !password
10:08:30  <PublicServer> Thijs2: caress
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10:12:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> who killed my splitter?
10:12:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> where?
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10:13:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> the 50/50 splitter i made yesterday
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10:13:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i did do some messing with the stations at the huge drop sign
10:14:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but i wasn't done before everyone left
10:14:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> didn't notice a 50/50 splitter though
10:14:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> sorry if i messed something up
10:14:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm
10:14:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> np
10:15:20  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or do you mean !here?
10:15:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
10:15:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> dodn't play with that
10:15:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats what im working on now
10:15:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> improved version
10:15:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> there was something similar yesterday
10:16:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i didn't do anything to that eithe
10:17:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh great
10:17:43  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hehe
10:18:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i improved the layout, think this would give maximum capacity
10:19:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> you'll need CL=TL
10:19:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm, maybe true
10:19:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> not maybe :P
10:20:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> well, trains also go fast if they do not reach 100% speed
10:20:20  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and i want to maximize the space for city,
10:20:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> these accelerate really fast
10:20:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty much instantly
10:22:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it will be cl4 then
10:22:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and tl5
10:22:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> you'll regret that
10:23:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes?
10:23:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
10:23:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> cause i can shorten the station
10:23:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> it'll kill your capicity
10:23:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but then train capacity drops with 20%
10:24:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> how about that?
10:24:30  <PublicServer> <Thijs> looks ok
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10:24:42  <phatmatt> !download win32
10:24:42  <PublicServer> phatmatt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win32.zip
10:26:03  <PublicServer> <Thijs> think only very few tiles cannot be built on
10:26:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> because they are too far from roads
10:28:07  <tneo> a typical Mark map :-P
10:28:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
10:28:30  <phatmatt> !password
10:28:30  <PublicServer> phatmatt: scoots
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10:33:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> mark, do you think the pbs signals, as i put them, would increase or decrease capacity?
10:34:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> decrease
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10:34:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> beacuse the pbs are slow?
10:34:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or just in general
10:34:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd have a dedicated track per loop
10:35:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm
10:35:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> is easier
10:35:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> pbs always slows down
10:35:27  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and probably both tracks will be at capacity
10:36:42  <PublicServer> <Thijs> we could use some prio's
10:39:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> only had to sacrifice to potential built area squares for a prio
10:39:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> i wouldnt use prios
10:40:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think they help, caue otherwise the stations near the drop cities
10:40:17  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wil get serviced much more
10:40:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> while they are (in your plan) at the side of the city
10:40:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> we'll see
10:40:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> would like to
10:41:27  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you building?
10:41:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
10:42:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> for max efficiency, you could leave one square between road and track
10:43:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> that'd leave some uncovered
10:43:22  <PublicServer> <Thijs> was only one square or so
10:43:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats too much for me :P
10:43:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> i want 100%
10:43:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but then you need more than one square more road
10:44:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so it reduces capacity
10:44:36  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you should measure efficiency ast the number of built area squares per well serviced area
10:44:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> think my plan has efficiancy of 30%
10:45:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and 70% infrstructure
10:45:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> maybe 60-40
10:45:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'll count
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10:47:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i count 59 of 150 squares can be houses
10:48:20  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so that's 39%
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10:49:38  <PublicServer> <Thijs> let's see if you can get a higher built area ratio
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10:53:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i think i can beat that
10:53:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> if we plan to have really big cities
10:53:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> and transport >90%
10:53:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> maybe we need more tracks though
10:53:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> like to
10:53:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> two per loop
10:54:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> you might :P
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10:54:29  <^Spike^> !password
10:54:29  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: meadow
10:54:40  <Godde> long time no see :P
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10:54:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> indeed
10:55:33  <Godde> !ip
10:55:33  <PublicServer> Godde: ps.openttdcoop.org
10:56:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> except in the wider option, the outer houses are not covered
10:59:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> the trains don't really need te be below ground level
10:59:13  <Godde> whats the ip for the public server?
10:59:21  <^Spike^> !ip
10:59:21  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ps.openttdcoop.org
11:00:19  <Godde> cant find it
11:01:18  <Mark> you'll need some bananas newgrfs
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11:01:37  <Godde> doh, forgot to get the newest version
11:01:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> bpb
11:01:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> brb
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11:03:03  <Godde> !r
11:03:06  <Godde> !nightly
11:03:09  <Godde> no?
11:03:12  <Godde> !version
11:03:12  <PublicServer> Godde: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M)
11:03:19  <Xaroth> Godde: try AutoTTD :)
11:03:33  <Xaroth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=43252
11:03:34  <Xaroth> else
11:03:37  <Xaroth> !dl win32
11:03:37  <PublicServer> Xaroth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win32.zip
11:03:38  <mitooo> !password
11:03:38  <PublicServer> mitooo: junked
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11:04:41  <Godde> hard for newbies to get into these games xD
11:05:06  <Xaroth> Godde: that's why i made AutoTTD, it makes things easier to join servers with the proper version
11:05:13  <Godde> oh :)
11:05:18  <Godde> might wanna go find it then
11:05:25  <Godde> but first, i gotta try joining agian
11:05:28  <Xaroth> the tt-forums like up above
11:05:45  <Godde> !password
11:05:45  <PublicServer> Godde: junked
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11:06:55  <Godde> so what is this game about?
11:07:30  <Xaroth> openttd-coop or, openttd in general?
11:07:31  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it's about making plans for what to do with the scenario
11:07:45  <PublicServer> <Godde> this game on the public server
11:07:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but to what we can get to, just download a map from the archive
11:07:53  <Xaroth> what Thijs said :)
11:08:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> we just started this one
11:08:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think yesterday
11:08:17  <PublicServer> <Godde> i have seen what can happen on this server, i played alot some months ago :)
11:08:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it's a bit theorectical scenario
11:08:38  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so we are in planning stage
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11:08:59  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and i personally was building s-bahn layouts
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11:11:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi ammler
11:12:12  <PublicServer> <Godde> i'll go play around in the archives until this game gets going :) im not that into planning
11:12:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> did you add the comment about your plan being rubbish?
11:12:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
11:12:36  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or does someone not like you here
11:12:53  <Xaroth> lo Ammler
11:12:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why should I?
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11:13:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, I can guess, who it was :-)
11:14:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm off
11:14:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye
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11:16:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is it allowed to vote for your own plan?
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11:16:37  <MarkT> !password
11:16:37  <PublicServer> MarkT: junked
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11:17:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> chris is funny, making 2 plans and voting for an other plan
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11:18:04  <MarkT> !password
11:18:04  <PublicServer> MarkT: waifed
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11:24:27  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
11:24:27  <PublicServer> Saving game...
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11:24:28  <PublicServer> Game saved
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11:24:51  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
11:24:51  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
11:24:51  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
11:24:51  <PublicServer> @revision r16189
11:24:51  *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #140 (r16189) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | Get your mising GRFs from BaNaNaS"
11:28:28  <Godde> the games in the archives are insanely amazing
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11:29:32  <Godde> !password
11:29:32  <PublicServer> Godde: mosaic
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11:30:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> just here fpr a econd
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11:31:09  <Mark> !password
11:31:09  <PublicServer> Mark: mosaic
11:31:28  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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11:32:49  <Godde> ant me to join again so you can build? :P
11:32:55  <Godde> want*
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11:34:08  <Mark> heh Ammler
11:34:22  <Mark> voting for himself
11:34:35  <Ammler> if that isn't allowed, please remove it
11:34:54  <Ammler> (or not liked, whatever)
11:35:49  <Mark> done
11:36:25  <tneo> not allowed :P
11:36:55  <Godde> i'll check back tonight if the game has started for real :)
11:37:15  <Mark> it's just "not done"
11:37:45  <Godde> the clock is 1337 :D
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11:40:29  <mitooo> !password
11:40:29  <PublicServer> mitooo: fating
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11:45:17  <ropiku> !help
11:45:17  <PublicServer> ropiku: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
11:45:25  <ropiku> !download
11:45:25  <PublicServer> ropiku: !download autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
11:45:33  <ropiku> !download osx
11:45:33  <PublicServer> ropiku: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-macosx-universal.zip
11:46:24  <ropiku> !grf
11:46:24  <PublicServer> ropiku: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
11:47:48  <ropiku> !ip
11:47:48  <PublicServer> ropiku: ps.openttdcoop.org
11:48:22  <FiCE> !password
11:48:22  <PublicServer> FiCE: fating
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11:55:41  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I like Mark's plan... but I doubt 3 lanes/3 platforms is enough to handle all the load we'll get
11:55:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> it doesnt say that
11:56:07  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ah
11:56:18  <PublicServer> <FiCE> outer loop: RRR = ?
11:56:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats the amount of tracks coming into the station
11:56:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
11:56:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> outer loops should be wide enough
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11:57:26  <PublicServer> <FiCE> so the ML (station bypass) could be more?
11:57:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> thatd be pointless
11:58:17  <PublicServer> <FiCE> oh those ICE trains just run in the four loops
11:58:20  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I was getting confused
11:58:25  <PublicServer> <FiCE> makes sense now I guess
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12:25:50  <Thijs2> !password
12:25:50  <PublicServer> Thijs2: snored
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12:26:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> seems like mark's plan is winning
12:27:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> when will the building start, tonight?
12:27:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> how about now?
12:27:28  <FiCE> now is good :)
12:27:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm going to enjoy the sun now
12:27:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but will be playing tonight
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12:28:07  <FiCE> it's always sunny in OpenTTD :)
12:28:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> ok let's start
12:28:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> we give every city a seperate s-bahn plan?
12:28:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
12:29:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> Rumblewell is mine :P
12:29:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can i try my plan in one city
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12:29:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but reserver it till tonight
12:29:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> yea
12:29:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> put a sign
12:30:47  <PublicServer> <FiCE> how close to the edge is the ML?
12:30:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> close
12:31:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> 3 tiles from
12:31:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> first we build ML, then s-bahn?
12:31:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> doesnt motter
12:31:35  <PublicServer> <FiCE> is it 6 lanes from BBH02+ to BBH01?
12:31:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> 4
12:31:50  <PublicServer> <FiCE> so 2x3 into 4?
12:31:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> anyways, i'm going, but will see be back tonight
12:31:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
12:31:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye
12:32:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> ox cya
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12:32:03  <PublicServer> <FiCE> cya
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12:32:10  <PublicServer> <FiCE> isn't that going to be a bottleneck?
12:32:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> nah
12:33:06  <PublicServer> <FiCE> what CL is needed?
12:33:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> 10
12:33:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> 11 i mean
12:33:44  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok
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12:47:25  <uliko> !download win32
12:47:25  <PublicServer> uliko: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win32.zip
12:49:40  <uliko> !password
12:49:40  <PublicServer> uliko: divest
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12:52:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> wow thats ugly
12:52:38  <Mark> @stage Building
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12:53:11  <KenjiE20> who won btw?
12:53:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> i did
12:53:28  <KenjiE20> ah cool
12:53:46  <KenjiE20> the slightly less mind numbing, but still interesting plan :P
12:53:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> now making the biggest and ugliest sbhan ever
12:55:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> bugged already
12:55:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> cant be bothered to redo it though
12:58:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> i wouldnt mind some helb btw
12:59:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> p
12:59:20  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i need to see a complete loop first :)
13:07:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> slightly confusing
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13:08:19  <PublicServer> <FiCE> are we doing cross roads around the station?
13:08:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
13:08:38  <PublicServer> <FiCE> seems like that may be tricky?
13:09:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> see Rumblewell East
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13:18:38  <ropiku> !password
13:18:38  <PublicServer> ropiku: bronze
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13:21:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> only the last statinons in line should have a bypass btw
13:21:28  <PublicServer> <ropiku> mark, cand I give a hand at building Rumblewell ?
13:21:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> please
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13:31:46  <PublicServer> <ropiku> do we need to repeat this 4 times ? :-S
13:31:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> nah
13:32:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> those will be different
13:36:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> signalling will be fun
13:36:05  <PublicServer> <ropiku> yeah
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13:40:24  <PublicServer> <FiCE> there isn't going to be much room left for the town :p
13:40:37  <PublicServer> <FiCE> but it'll look very nice :)
13:40:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> plety though
13:41:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> im aiming for 800-900k pop
13:41:36  <PublicServer> <FiCE> for just this town?
13:41:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> moving 80% of the pax
13:41:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
13:41:49  <PublicServer> <FiCE> wow :)
13:42:36  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> are there meant to be bypasses on stations #89 & #90?
13:43:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> 89 no
13:43:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> 90 not either
13:43:33  <ODM> !password
13:43:33  <PublicServer> ODM: sodden
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13:43:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> look whos here
13:44:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> what the hell
13:45:12  <PublicServer> <FiCE> hmmm no bypass now?
13:45:16  <PublicServer> <FiCE> for all stations?
13:45:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> only on the outer ones
13:45:35  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok
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13:51:02  <PublicServer> <ropiku> what kind of road bridges ?
13:51:10  <PublicServer> <FiCE> i think steel girder
13:51:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> girder
13:51:18  <PublicServer> <FiCE> that is what someone was using
13:51:22  <PublicServer> <ropiku> ok
13:51:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> the minimap is interesting
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14:00:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol
14:01:06  <Ammler> !rcon set town_growth_rate
14:01:06  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4)
14:01:23  <Ammler> Mark: any reason to disable town growth?
14:01:36  <Ammler> as it is quite easy to bulldoze with magic.
14:01:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> so we dont get towns before we want to
14:01:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> true
14:02:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll enable some
14:02:23  <Mark> !rcon set town_growth_rate 3
14:02:34  <Mark> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2
14:02:37  <Mark> !rcon set town_growth_rate 4
14:02:39  <Ammler> 4 or 0
14:02:41  <Ammler> :P
14:03:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: you know?
14:03:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> what?
14:03:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> town sign tile needs to be road
14:04:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> not true
14:04:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not?
14:04:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> nope
14:04:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, we will see :-)
14:04:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah
14:05:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is for town roads only?
14:05:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno
14:05:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I disabled town growth of some towns that way in last game.
14:05:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, I thought, I did.
14:05:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
14:06:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
14:06:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you cheated?
14:07:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> how?
14:07:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> rebuilding?
14:07:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> rebuilding what?
14:07:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> you make less sense than usual :P
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14:14:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> no one feels like biulding an ICE station or BBH?
14:15:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I could
14:15:15  <PublicServer> <FiCE> too busy building roads
14:15:24  <PublicServer> <FiCE> really could do with some help :p
14:15:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> wow, good job renaming
14:15:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, we have ugly TTRS enabled.
14:17:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you helped with the sbahn please put your name in the center
14:18:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should use pbs there
14:18:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> else you have 4 tile gap
14:18:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> yuck
14:19:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah,ok, you have them anyway
14:19:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> with the bridges
14:19:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
14:20:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> do you feed your stations?
14:21:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or distant-join?
14:21:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> neither
14:21:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> i cover everything
14:22:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check !this
14:22:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> apart from that
14:22:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol
14:22:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> might throw in a yram or two
14:22:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> tram
14:23:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> bad planning ;-)
14:24:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, only in the center
14:25:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> all regular squares are covered
14:26:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if I would like to propose a s-bahn, possible?
14:26:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or do all nned to be like that?
14:27:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> you may propose
14:27:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> take Sliggleswell or Windybridge
14:28:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> thjis plan is like yours, isn't?
14:28:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> more or less yes
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14:33:59  <Thijs> !password
14:33:59  <PublicServer> Thijs: traits
14:34:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> cleaned my last plan ever ;-)
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14:35:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
14:35:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> sun gone?
14:35:51  <PublicServer> <FiCE> 25% more roads to do now
14:35:52  <PublicServer> <FiCE> almost here
14:35:55  <PublicServer> <FiCE> there
14:36:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice
14:36:42  <hypervillain> !password
14:36:42  <PublicServer> hypervillain: traits
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14:37:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> AmmIer: you being the pbs expert, would !this work?
14:37:09  <PublicServer> <hypervillain> hello
14:37:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
14:37:17  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wow, someone  has been doing a repetitious job
14:37:38  <PublicServer> <FiCE> :)
14:38:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> lots of people helpe me there
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14:38:09  <Mark> !password
14:38:09  <PublicServer> Mark: traits
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14:44:11  <Mark> !rcon patch station_spread 64
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14:47:55  <Godde> anyone here?
14:48:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep
14:48:01  <PublicServer> <FiCE> yes
14:48:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
14:48:04  <KenjiE20> maybe
14:48:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
14:48:10  <Godde> still in planning mode?
14:48:11  <KenjiE20> !playercount
14:48:11  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 8
14:48:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yses
14:48:20  <Godde> oke
14:48:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> nope
14:48:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
14:48:27  <Godde> !password
14:48:27  <PublicServer> Godde: hernia
14:48:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
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14:49:27  <PublicServer> <Godde> what the....
14:50:31  <PublicServer> <Godde> what is going on? :)
14:50:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> building and designing sbahns
14:51:11  <PublicServer> <Godde> just random/for fun?
14:51:15  <PublicServer> <Godde> or...?
14:51:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> depends
14:51:37  <PublicServer> <Godde> planning to grow rumblewell insanely?
14:51:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> im not getting paid for it
14:51:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
14:51:48  <PublicServer> <Godde> i see xD
14:51:57  <PublicServer> <Godde> thats gonna make a shitload of money...
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14:52:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> not unless we take it somewhere
14:52:23  <PublicServer> <Godde> true
14:52:42  <PublicServer> <Godde> why not playing on a large hilly map as usual? ^^
14:53:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because we are "unusal"
14:53:12  <PublicServer> <Godde> hehe
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14:53:29  <PublicServer> <Godde> i like the hilly maps :) watching the pros build BBHs while im building small feeders and SLs
14:53:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
14:55:20  <PublicServer> <Godde> anything i can help with? :)
14:55:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check the plan
14:55:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> signalling Rumblewell sbahn
14:55:51  <PublicServer> <FiCE> off by one?
14:55:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and then  do what you would like to
14:56:52  <PublicServer> <Godde> signalling the sbahn is done with PS, right?
14:57:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> PS?
14:57:09  <PublicServer> <Godde> presignals :)
14:57:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> check the western part
14:57:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> and copy it :P
14:57:51  <PublicServer> <Godde> omg xD thats alot of signals
14:57:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> that it is
14:58:14  <PublicServer> <Godde> i'll give it a try
14:58:21  <PublicServer> <Godde> shout if im doing something wrong :P
14:59:27  <PublicServer> <Godde> why use dual exit presignals if you're not using entry signals?
14:59:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> to force a loop if all platforms are taken
15:00:26  <PublicServer> <Godde> i still dont get why u cant use entry signals...
15:00:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> we dont want trais waiting on the "ML"
15:01:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> brb
15:01:18  <PublicServer> <Godde> the train pathfinder is strange xD
15:01:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not really
15:01:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is quite clever
15:01:39  <PublicServer> <Godde> :P
15:01:54  <PublicServer> <Godde> if i got an idea for improvement, who do i go to?
15:02:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you like to improve existing constructions?
15:02:30  <PublicServer> <Godde> no, improving features
15:02:33  <PublicServer> <Godde> in the game
15:02:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tt-forums.net
15:02:44  <PublicServer> <Godde> oke :)
15:02:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or #openttd
15:03:27  <KenjiE20> or svn :P
15:05:58  <PublicServer> <Godde> ah
15:06:00  <PublicServer> <Godde> ye
15:06:17  <PublicServer> <FiCE> Goode, are you doing Rumblewell Station?
15:06:23  <PublicServer> <FiCE> i'm the one making signs there
15:06:27  <PublicServer> <Godde> no, im doing the signals
15:06:32  <PublicServer> <FiCE> just thought it'd be nice to have a template
15:06:32  <PublicServer> <Godde> mark's station
15:06:41  <PublicServer> <FiCE> that we copy/use on all sides
15:06:50  <PublicServer> <Godde> how do templates work? i never found out
15:07:03  <PublicServer> <FiCE> well I just mean... we can copy/paste
15:07:10  <PublicServer> <FiCE> the same station design 7 more times
15:07:14  <PublicServer> <FiCE> so they're all consistent
15:07:19  <PublicServer> <FiCE> if there is an error in one
15:07:21  <PublicServer> <Godde> ye, but dont you need some kind ofaddon or something? seem to remember
15:07:25  <PublicServer> <FiCE> it makes it very easy to fix the other 7
15:07:30  <PublicServer> <FiCE> nah, just manually
15:07:37  <PublicServer> <Godde> oke :)
15:09:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> voting is over :P
15:09:19  <PublicServer> <Godde> too bad! :O
15:09:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you are too late.
15:09:29  <PublicServer> <Godde> he won anyway :)
15:10:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, he cheated
15:10:22  <PublicServer> <Godde> how?
15:10:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hey "blamed" my plan so I lost ;-)
15:10:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> they*
15:10:47  <PublicServer> <Godde> huh?
15:12:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> town grows damn fast
15:12:40  <PublicServer> <Godde> ye
15:12:48  <PublicServer> <FiCE> lock em in with roadblocks :)
15:12:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he
15:13:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it needs still to grow
15:13:45  <PublicServer> <FiCE> but you need to make roads for them anyway
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15:22:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you had to bribe?
15:22:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol
15:22:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> magic bulldozer is on
15:22:23  <PublicServer> <FiCE> just wanted to make them happy :p
15:22:52  <PublicServer> <FiCE> how does our rating keep dropping?
15:23:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> bad station
15:23:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you have many stations with 0 service
15:23:40  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ah ok
15:26:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who does build roads at sigleswell?
15:26:55  <PublicServer> <FiCE> just trying something out
15:27:01  <PublicServer> <FiCE> magic bulldozer is on
15:27:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just asking, if you already have aplan
15:27:29  <PublicServer> <FiCE> nope
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15:28:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it would be bad, if your roads, don't fit the plan there.
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15:28:37  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I expect they wont ;)
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15:29:13  <phatmatt> !password
15:29:13  <PublicServer> phatmatt: auburn
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15:41:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the transfer at Rumblewell accepts pax, you could already run some trains
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15:44:20  <phatmatt> !password
15:44:20  <PublicServer> phatmatt: eldest
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15:49:12  <mitooo> !password
15:49:13  <PublicServer> mitooo: eldest
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15:50:52  <PublicServer> * Kenji would say something, but is trying to stay family friendly
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15:54:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> CL?
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15:57:34  <Godde> what is the "far end" and "near end" and "middle" behind the orders? never noticed it before
15:58:31  <phatmatt> !password
15:58:32  <PublicServer> phatmatt: abides
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15:59:41  <Ammler> Godde, it is new in trunk
15:59:58  <Ammler> it defines, where in a station stops the train
16:00:06  <Ammler> (mostly eye candy feature)
16:01:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
16:02:16  <Godde> it doesnt seem to work properly :P
16:02:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it does
16:02:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> what?
16:02:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but when TL = station length, it's not exactly noticable
16:02:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
16:02:55  <Godde> no... in this singleplayer game, all my trains refuse to go to the far end, and rather wait for a spot thats closer
16:03:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it isn't meant to  go to a plattfrom, farer away
16:03:36  <Godde> ?
16:03:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it drives on the plattform itself to the farer end
16:04:34  <Godde> ah
16:04:37  <Godde> lol ^^
16:04:38  <Godde> oke
16:05:07  <Godde> is there any way to change priority strengths for the pathfinder?
16:05:16  <Ammler> yes
16:05:21  <Godde> or will that f**k things up?
16:05:26  <Ammler> check the cfg for the settings.
16:05:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm, this merge design isn't going to work with CL11
16:05:57  <Godde> k
16:09:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> there, half of the town snignalled
16:16:33  * XeryusTC signals mark's town
16:16:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> please do :P
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16:27:36  <phatmatt> !password
16:27:36  <PublicServer> phatmatt: marted
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16:32:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who made the trains at Rumblewell?
16:32:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> i did
16:32:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> doesn't look like self regulating
16:32:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> its not
16:32:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> wasn't that the plan?
16:33:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> nope
16:33:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what is that bypass line for then?
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16:34:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> to force an extra loop if all platforms are taken
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16:35:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check sign !bypass...
16:36:07  <Godde> !passwor
16:36:10  <Godde> !password
16:36:10  <PublicServer> Godde: marted
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16:36:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> do you mind if I add some more trains check if it is working
16:37:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> not at all
16:37:24  <Godde> !playercount
16:37:24  <PublicServer> Godde: Number of players: 9
16:40:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe
16:40:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you have kinda big buffer
16:40:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
16:40:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 6 trains per station :-)
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16:42:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> station looks oversized
16:43:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> even center station is loading slow
16:43:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
16:44:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I think you've underestimated the size of BBH01 a tad
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16:45:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> is there an unclaimed town?
16:45:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, an hi :)
16:45:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
16:45:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello :P
16:45:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> there are 2
16:46:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> both have build something. But alas
16:46:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> town growing at Sliggleswell is interesting
16:46:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> we have the magic dozer
16:46:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wtf
16:46:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe :)
16:46:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good to know, Mark :) ty
16:47:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'll take the SE
16:47:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> e.g. right one
16:47:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Windybridge: ?
16:47:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I assume, your plan won, Mark?
16:47:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, Ammler
16:47:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> mind?
16:48:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
16:48:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I trashed my plans
16:48:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I need to build something... as I'm sort of in a bad mood but got no real reason :S
16:49:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> why does xfire say this server is in cz?
16:49:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> nvm
16:49:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because it is?
16:49:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> it doesnt
16:49:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how do you know?
16:49:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> huh?
16:49:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> geo IP is often wrong
16:50:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> server doesn't need to be in same country as the owner.
16:50:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> my server is in germany.
16:51:22  <Godde> !password
16:51:22  <PublicServer> Godde: scurry
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16:53:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Mark: how big do the ICE station parts get?
16:53:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's no example yet...
16:53:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 11 tile long
16:53:59  <PublicServer> <Godde> fascinating way to connect the depot to the tracks :)
16:54:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and how many tracks?
16:54:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 6 per line
16:54:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
16:54:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 6/ML? ---> 24?
16:54:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe double
16:54:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> as it does both
16:54:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, no, 18
16:54:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> (unload/load)
16:54:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, ok
16:54:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. 9/track -> 27
16:55:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ups...
16:55:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> 4-6 per track should do
16:57:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> AmmIer: you wanna join Windybridge?
16:57:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> dinner time
16:57:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I guess, I build the southern bbh
16:57:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> har har
16:57:58  <PublicServer> <Godde> what are the bridges for? and where is north?
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16:59:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who'm I signing with?
16:59:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> me :)
17:00:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> gotcha
17:00:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'm just concerned about good building places for my extensive residential home ;)
17:00:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm going with the assumption of all 4 lines on the ML will get access to all
17:00:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so making that merge with some form of balancing
17:00:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's a merge, yes.
17:00:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it may/may not work anyway
17:01:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I just wonder whether you build more in "my" or in Mark's town :)
17:01:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's almost too big for my liking
17:01:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> It's been shunted north twice already
17:01:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> probably going to need a third
17:01:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe :)
17:01:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> curve length?
17:01:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. Maybe first build it. then shift it :)
17:02:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 11?
17:02:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 11 for ICE
17:02:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> woot?
17:02:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no
17:02:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> definately not woot
17:02:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> already a demo ring?
17:02:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea
17:02:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> see SE
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17:02:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... I think I first build the middle hub.
17:02:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that will be huge
17:02:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's limited and comparatively uncreative work :)
17:02:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> very very huge
17:02:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, I would like a ring with a train in it?
17:03:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> for?
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17:03:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because I don't believe you? :P
17:04:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how many engines?
17:04:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> all engines
17:05:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> only?
17:05:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea
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17:07:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no slow down with 10
17:07:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm.... may I use bridges?
17:07:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it slows on 10
17:07:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> same as with 11
17:07:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 288mph
17:08:02  <Wold> !password
17:08:02  <PublicServer> Wold: dulled
17:08:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> compare to 11
17:08:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 312mph
17:08:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> max
17:08:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nah
17:08:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that isn't true
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17:08:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well watch the thing
17:09:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> same with 9
17:09:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because we use engine only, I assume, we can use quite small curve
17:10:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm watching this train now, and it slows on anything other than 11
17:10:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it slows also on 11
17:11:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> CL 12 :D
17:11:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or 11.5
17:11:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :P
17:11:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> doesn't slow on 11
17:11:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it did
17:11:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> imo, the slow down is kina unimportant
17:11:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> come on, watch now
17:12:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> AmmIer: the problem is: diagonal = 10.5 = slow down
17:12:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> fine, sod it let's use CL5 for everything from now on
17:13:29  <Godde> !password
17:13:29  <PublicServer> Godde: lathes
17:13:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if you want max speed you need 12
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17:13:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no you dont
17:13:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
17:13:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm watching this thing do max on 11
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17:14:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the most outer circle is 12
17:15:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> pm, there is no 10.5 length here
17:15:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> at least, it would be nice, if you could show me.
17:15:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there is. every diagonal is a .5
17:15:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> measure
17:15:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 10.5 isn't a curve
17:16:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the next half tile will still show 11
17:16:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's a chicane
17:17:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he, I mde a too long train :P
17:17:52  <PublicServer> * planetm4ker kicks Ammler
17:17:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol
17:18:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> rofl
17:18:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you all lost ;-)
17:18:08  <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving)
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17:18:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> now 11 is fine :-)
17:20:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is 11 a requirement for the hub?
17:20:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why not?
17:22:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you know what, I hate this merge idea
17:22:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> evil guy :P
17:22:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Kenji: we know now :P
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17:28:09  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Kenji: how's that headache coming along?
17:28:19  <PublicServer> <tneo> goodday, should magic bulldozer stay on?
17:28:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> its stopped
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17:28:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yep
17:28:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tneo: ^
17:28:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ;-)
17:29:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good. ty
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17:36:33  <Ammler> `newtunnels 11
17:36:33  <Webster> I have no idea!
17:36:42  <Ammler> `newtunnel 11
17:36:42  <Webster> 2 tunnels for 2 - 13 spaces, 3 tunnels for 14 - 26 spaces, 4 tunnels for 27 - 39 spaces
17:37:15  <Ammler> !tunnels 11 16
17:37:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 11 and gap 16.
17:37:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, that doesn't seem right
17:37:48  <Ammler> imo, unitl 24 with 2 tunnels
17:38:06  <Ammler> !tunnels 11 24
17:38:06  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 11 and gap 24.
17:38:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea my intuition says 23 would be the threshold for 2
17:38:09  <Ammler> !tunnels 11 25
17:38:09  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 11 and gap 25.
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17:38:18  <Ammler> !tunnels 11 26
17:38:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 11 and gap 26.
17:38:24  <Ammler> !tunnels 11 27
17:38:24  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 11 and gap 27.
17:38:49  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I just coded in what was being said in chat - so it's not my formula :)
17:39:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> taking a break before my head explodes
17:39:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> also I think food soon
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17:43:40  <Godde> !password
17:43:40  <PublicServer> Godde: ramble
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17:44:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hmpf. I cannot get my head wrapped around a good, symmetric, small hub idea :)
17:47:57  <XeryusTC> why symmetric?
17:52:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
17:53:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wb
17:53:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> ty
17:53:12  <PublicServer> <tneo> wb
17:54:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> ah crap
17:54:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> forgot to use xfer
17:54:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> hm wait
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18:05:18  <Godde> i just realized how fun it is to make random pictures into heightmaps xD
18:06:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> glad you found a hobby
18:06:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
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18:06:26  <Godde> xD
18:07:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you cant think of anything better to do you might aswel help me
18:07:42  <Godde> im no good with junctions :P thats normally what screws up my networks
18:08:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> im doing my sbahn
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18:10:12  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> hmm - think that rocketship looking thing would work for the western merge?
18:10:58  <XeryusTC> !password
18:10:58  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: cashes
18:11:08  <XeryusTC> i wish
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18:11:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> Sliggleswell is weird
18:11:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah crap.
18:11:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'm unimaginative, today.
18:11:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, Windybridge is screwed :P
18:11:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> planetm4ker: where?
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> everywhere :)
18:12:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh :P
18:12:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, this game is verily boring :o
18:12:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I tried to build a nice, efficient, small, good-looking central hub :P
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18:18:19  <ropiku> !password
18:18:19  <PublicServer> ropiku: cashes
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18:20:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 11 is damn long
18:20:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is
18:20:38  <PublicServer> <tneo> mark style ;-)
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18:22:27  <Amr0d> !help
18:22:27  <PublicServer> Amr0d: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
18:23:22  <Amr0d> !password
18:23:22  <PublicServer> Amr0d: cashes
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18:25:01  <Amr0d> !grf
18:25:01  <PublicServer> Amr0d: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
18:28:05  <PublicServer> <tneo> there a bbh :)
18:28:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice
18:28:30  <PublicServer> <tneo> thx\
18:28:51  <PublicServer> <tneo> who's working on southern bbh?
18:29:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> /me
18:29:36  <PublicServer> <tneo> sign work ! :-P
18:29:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> needs some signalling, then it should be finished
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18:32:01  <Amr0d> we can i get this aircraft grf?
18:32:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> bananas
18:32:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we?
18:32:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> coffee time
18:32:45  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators
18:32:57  <^Spike^> !password
18:32:57  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: liners
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18:34:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> FERTISCH!
18:34:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I need trains :-)
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18:37:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who is working on the center hub?
18:38:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> my hub should be completly max speed
18:39:06  <tneo> I thought I saw a few slow curve Ammler
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18:40:42  <tneo> afk
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18:48:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> acceleration of the train is amazing
18:49:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is someone online?
18:50:03  <Ammler> !players
18:50:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 62 is Mark, a spectator
18:50:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 38 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 96 (Orange) is phatmatt, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 16 (Orange) is FiCE, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 86 (Orange) is mitooo, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:06  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 38 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:06  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 62 is Mark, a spectator
18:50:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 96 (Orange) is phatmatt, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 16 (Orange) is FiCE, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:10  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 86 (Orange) is mitooo, in company 1 (Rumblewell Transport)
18:50:23  <Ammler> !rcon move 96 255
18:50:23  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** phatmatt has joined spectators
18:50:32  <Ammler> !rcon move 16 255
18:50:32  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** FiCE has joined spectators
18:50:40  <Ammler> !rcon move 86 255
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18:55:46  <Godde> !password
18:55:47  <PublicServer> Godde: rioted
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18:56:32  <mensi> !dl win32
18:56:32  <PublicServer> mensi: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win32.zip
18:56:37  <Amr0d> !password
18:56:37  <PublicServer> Amr0d: rioted
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18:59:48  <Sol2> hi
18:59:54  <Sol2> i've finally found a korean server
19:00:11  <Sol2> it's nice except one thing
19:00:17  <mensi> !password
19:00:17  <PublicServer> mensi: rioted
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19:00:27  <Sol2> server permits 90 degree turn of train
19:00:29  <Sol2> : (
19:00:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
19:00:45  <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving)
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19:00:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> talk to the admin
19:01:04  <Sol2> i've talked but they ingore me : (
19:01:05  <Sol2> lol
19:01:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then the server isn't worth
19:01:26  <Sol2> lol maybe
19:01:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> usually, they just forgot to activate that
19:01:58  <Sol2> all players make 20 or more length of very very long train
19:02:03  <Sol2> is it useful?
19:02:04  <Sol2> : (
19:02:47  <Sol2> it seems nice when they receive lots of money at a time
19:03:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lower running costs
19:03:31  <Sol2> but... it looks difficult to make junctions or double/triple lanes
19:03:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> join our server
19:03:53  <Sol2> lol
19:03:55  <Sol2> i'll try
19:03:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we just made hubs for 11tile trains
19:04:50  <Sol2> wait a sec
19:04:59  <Sol2> i hav to copy GRFs : )
19:05:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> gone
19:05:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the sec I meant
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19:05:16  <Sol2> lol
19:05:17  <Sol2> omg
19:05:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why do you need to copy grfs?
19:05:28  <Sol2> wat a nice joke!
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19:05:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't you have them in your "global" data dir?
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19:06:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> now the hub is perfect
19:06:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who started trains?
19:06:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> /me
19:07:01  <Sol2> lol
19:07:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> needed to test my hub
19:07:07  <Sol2> aviators aircrafts
19:07:30  <Sol2> i'm downloading it
19:07:30  <mensi> holy shit that's a crazy ass S bahn ;)
19:07:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, I had removed them ;-)
19:07:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but thanks :-)
19:09:23  <ODM> !password
19:09:23  <PublicServer> ODM: rioted
19:09:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who send the trains to depot?
19:09:30  <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game
19:09:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I did
19:09:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should also remove the depot after ;-)
19:09:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> if you mean the ones up by the merge
19:09:49  <Sol2> !password
19:09:49  <PublicServer> Sol2: rioted
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19:10:48  <Sol2> !password
19:10:49  <PublicServer> Sol2: patron
19:10:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> wow really:p
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19:11:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> hihi
19:11:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> heya Sol
19:11:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should change to all
19:12:03  <ZarenorDarkstalker> !password
19:12:03  <PublicServer> ZarenorDarkstalker: patron
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19:12:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Adv. Setting -> interface -> interaction
19:12:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> already done
19:13:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> pls, change your chat setting
19:14:01  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> yeap
19:14:02  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> wow this is pretty complicated here
19:14:06  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> is that ok?  : )
19:14:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH
19:14:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
19:14:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> wow, very nice on RWL
19:15:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and sliggleswell has an interesting method of building
19:16:09  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> straight horizontal because of the single N/S street
19:17:14  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> So what is there to be done?
19:17:23  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> why are we losing so much money all the time?
19:17:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no income
19:17:59  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> why? there are lots of trains and stations etc.
19:18:12  <mensi> they only do transfer
19:18:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 108 trains isn't that many
19:18:20  <mensi> IC network missing
19:18:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> is anyone else going io build an sbahn?
19:19:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> othervwise we might aswell end the game now
19:19:03  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> and what do you do against this income problem?
19:19:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> same as we always do, sod all and keep building :P
19:19:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Is there any set method, or just as long as it's LR and fullspeed at TL?
19:20:49  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1
19:21:02  <mensi> Mark: do you want a fancy SRNW? I guess I could build something simple, but I'm not really experienced with that advanced SRNW stuff
19:21:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> doesnt have to be SR
19:22:01  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so either of the two undeveloped and unclaimed cities we can begin work on?
19:22:07  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> wow sooooooooooooo complex!!!
19:22:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
19:22:26  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Alright, I'm going to think about sliggleswell...
19:22:55  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so basically we just ensure to get PAX to the 4 ICE stations then is my understanding?
19:23:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> we have magic dozer, so you can just nuke it
19:23:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
19:23:18  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right, sliggs is nuked soon
19:23:29  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> sorry 150k people!
19:23:42  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol
19:23:57  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> bloody dozer
19:23:57  <mensi> hmm how are those ICE hubs going to be built?
19:24:04  <mensi> inline?
19:24:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
19:24:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
19:24:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> next to the ML
19:24:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> are you all right Kenji?
19:24:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no
19:24:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> whats wrong?
19:24:55  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> all you are nerd!! lol
19:25:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I keep getting my layout wrong
19:25:19  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> i give up i'll watch how everyting'll be going
19:25:41  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> oh you destroyed the city
19:25:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
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19:28:48  <mensi> is somebody doing Windxybridge?
19:28:56  <PublicServer> * Kenji touches ammler
19:29:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Kenji: ?
19:29:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :P you sign
19:29:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> your*
19:29:49  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> am I allowed to build new streets in sliggleswell
19:29:50  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> ?
19:30:03  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not through the middle
19:30:07  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i'm thinking
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19:30:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah :-)
19:30:27  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> it doesn't laggy
19:30:33  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> this server is in UK right?
19:30:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
19:30:41  <ZarenorDarkstalker> !password
19:30:41  <PublicServer> ZarenorDarkstalker: slinks
19:30:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> cz maybe
19:30:45  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> nope?!
19:30:47  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol
19:30:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or nl
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19:31:01  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> this magic bulldozer is what? a tool to build new cities?
19:31:07  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> but not laggy i think that i can play along
19:31:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> a cheat :P
19:31:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> magic buulldozer means you can destroy indestructivbles
19:31:19  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> cheat :)
19:31:29  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> cheat?
19:31:36  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> w/ or w/o permission
19:31:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> haxx0rz
19:31:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> things you normally couldn't destroy, like antennas
19:31:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or industries
19:32:07  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> or buildings/house in the city
19:32:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it should be in nl, but it might be in cz, dunno.
19:32:42  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> anyway it's good
19:32:54  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> as fast as korean server : )
19:33:00  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> as u kno i'm living in korea : )
19:33:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, the internet is as fast around the world
19:33:54  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the mainline connections are as fast, it's a matter of how the mainlines are run
19:33:55  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol it takes around an hour to download ottd from coop site ! : P
19:34:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> might be possible, you have better connection to europe then to your neighbout
19:34:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> r
19:34:23  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> i dun think so, Ammler : )
19:34:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> aaaaaaarrrrgh
19:34:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> "possible" ;-)
19:34:44  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> yeap : )
19:34:54  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> was a joke? lol
19:35:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ZarenorDarkstalker: why do you nuke the town?
19:35:31  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm thinking and i don't think well in clutter...
19:35:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should first make a plan, maybe the houses would help
19:35:43  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> sorry..
19:35:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> AmmIer: id do the same
19:35:55  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol
19:35:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it is your town :P
19:36:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: ?
19:36:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> same what?
19:36:31  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> 1st, nuke. 2nd, build something, 3rd, think, 4th, plan and repeat these phrases
19:36:34  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol
19:36:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nuke -> build -> ???? -> profit
19:36:57  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> lol
19:37:08  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm thinking.. and i might do four subsections...
19:37:12  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> just repeat nuke and build hehe
19:37:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> AmmIer: nuke it rather than leave the buildings
19:37:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
19:37:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I would too
19:37:34  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> w/e i'm running 2 ottd at a time
19:37:42  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> 1 for this, another for korean server : )
19:37:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but it doesn't look, like ZarenorDarkstalkerhas a plan
19:38:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm working on one
19:38:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is someone working on BBH1?
19:38:40  <PublicServer> <Sol2 the Newbie> i'm just watching XD
19:40:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and what about BBH4?
19:40:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> looks like someone did it, just in wrong place
19:40:54  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> how are you building that fast? are there any shortcuts?
19:41:01  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> I am pretty slow all the time
19:41:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> there are
19:41:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> for pretty much everything
19:41:32  <Mark> http://wiki.openttd.org/Hotkeys
19:42:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should label your work
19:42:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> now we have a hub, which looks nice, but belongs to nobody
19:42:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
19:42:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> which?
19:43:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> west
19:43:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I remove it, if nobody says something
19:43:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> just give me a number
19:43:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 4
19:43:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how many hubs can be west?
19:43:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> west means something differeny for everyone
19:43:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> 2 could be
19:44:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> i believe its Kenji's
19:44:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm up on coop east
19:44:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 04 in the plan
19:44:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm, well, west
19:44:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
19:45:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> isn't that 4?
19:45:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> not again
19:45:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: you know, where west is :P
19:45:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
19:45:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> when im in the north sea i went too far west
19:46:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> in openttd i have no idea
19:46:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> seriously?
19:46:33  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> hmmm..is there any sense in stations like BBH01?
19:46:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> in openttd theres game north, what people call north and coop north
19:46:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> its not a station
19:46:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Kenji: can you explain our old member, where west is :-P
19:46:57  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i'm with mark, it's too confusing
19:47:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I guess, he is fouling me.
19:47:08  <PublicServer> * Kenji builds a coop-compass
19:47:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe Thrax made it?
19:47:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there
19:48:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I renamed my hub
19:48:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yet again
19:48:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH
19:49:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so Mark can learn the directions
19:49:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
19:50:43  <Xaroth> ah, found a bug with autottd
19:51:04  <Ammler> Xaroth: shall I fix it?
19:51:04  <Xaroth> it crashes when you try to update if the client is already running
19:51:15  <Xaroth> Ammler: nah, i know where/what/how :P
19:51:27  <Ammler> just because you tell us :P
19:51:43  <Xaroth> meh, i just ramble sometimes :P
19:52:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe, I rejoin with copy& paste and move that hub
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19:55:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> whoever is working on the center hub
19:55:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I just tested those short curves
19:56:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> they will slow down.
19:57:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> afk
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19:59:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I make a "fast" hub at west
19:59:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> whoever made that plan, can remvoe it after
20:01:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> i need 3 more hub stations at Rumblewell
20:01:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> volonteers?
20:04:10  <PublicServer> <Amr0d> bbh west building looks hard, rails allover :)
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20:07:34  <Thijs> !password
20:07:34  <PublicServer> Thijs: junked
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20:08:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi
20:08:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
20:08:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> heya
20:08:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wow mark, your cities growing fast
20:08:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is
20:09:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> seems i have some catching up to do
20:09:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
20:10:04  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> very nice BBH 01 mark and planet
20:10:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> mostly pm's
20:10:33  <planetmaker> hm? I didn't do much there...
20:10:37  <planetmaker>  :D
20:10:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> i finished what was there
20:10:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it has no load balancing though?
20:11:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but it looks good
20:11:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> we can add that when we need it
20:11:17  <planetmaker> ok, then, if it hasn't load balancing, there was indeed not too much to do :)
20:11:22  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> anything should be balanced before there, it's all 3>3
20:11:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> and these trains accelerate damn fast
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20:18:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> BBH West done
20:18:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Thijs: if that "plan" is in your way, remove it.
20:19:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no idea, who made it.
20:19:35  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ok, i will
20:19:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> done :P
20:19:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> it wasnt even a proper example
20:22:16  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has joined company #1
20:23:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did I foget something on my hub?
20:23:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or why is it that small :-)
20:23:47  <PublicServer> *** Sol2 the Newbie has left the game (connection lost)
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20:24:10  <mensi> !password
20:24:10  <PublicServer> mensi: rafter
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20:25:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: didn't you say 4-6 per line is enough?
20:25:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
20:25:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> now you made 10 :-)
20:25:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> 5
20:25:56  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> enough for what?
20:26:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> for ICE stations
20:26:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, 2 times
20:26:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> 2*10 = 4 * 5
20:26:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
20:26:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nvm, I can count then.
20:26:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> the other is for Windybridge
20:26:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I see 8x5
20:27:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah thats for Windybridge
20:27:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> the other half that is
20:27:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, you still have 10 per line
20:28:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> more or less
20:28:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did pm have a plan for Windybridge?
20:29:02  <planetmaker> no.
20:29:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> wont you join?
20:29:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> for calming  down ;-)
20:30:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> back
20:30:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> t'was another good HIGNFY
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20:36:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm, wouldn't it be easier to merge thos stations?
21:01:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> anyone care to join me building?
21:02:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm working on SLGS
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21:06:11  <mensi> ZarenorDarkstalker, are you still building Sliggleswell?
21:06:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yes, i am
21:06:28  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> working in the far west quadrant
21:06:34  <mensi> I have some space problems building the ICE station
21:06:43  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> north?
21:07:10  <mensi> I guess so (upper left)
21:07:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how much mopre space do you need?
21:07:31  <mensi> about another 6 tiles
21:07:38  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hrm
21:07:44  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll see what i can do
21:08:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ZarenorDarkstalker: you also need your drop there
21:08:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> one of
21:08:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll fit that somehow on the block that the drop is on
21:08:56  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> each quadrant services one drop
21:09:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah well
21:09:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so you can do it either west or east
21:10:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> in this case it'll be the east, and i'll probably just skip a station there for it
21:10:13  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> instead of a pickup, fill the block with the drop
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21:17:35  <planetmaker> Ammler: sorry, I'm just wrapping my head into the German translation. Gramatical intricacies :)
21:17:57  <Godde> !password'
21:18:00  <Godde> !password
21:18:00  <PublicServer> Godde: tubing
21:18:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
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21:18:48  <PublicServer> <Godde> heia
21:19:16  <PublicServer> <Godde> whats up?
21:20:39  <Godde> has anyone on the public server got some spare time?
21:20:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> for what?
21:21:17  <Godde> to help me construct a junction xD im kinda stuck on one of my singleplayer games
21:21:29  <PublicServer> <mitooo> you mean free time?
21:21:47  <PublicServer> <Godde> i mean time like "sitting around watching"
21:21:52  <PublicServer> <Godde> or free time, yes :)
21:23:44  <Seppel> !download win32
21:23:44  <PublicServer> Seppel: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win32.zip
21:24:26  <PublicServer> <Godde> wont bother you then xD
21:24:33  <PublicServer> <Godde> anything i can help out with?
21:24:41  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes
21:24:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> trottingbridge
21:24:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Ammler you building atm?
21:24:59  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i am
21:25:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Kenji: somehow, why?
21:25:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> can you glance over my bbh?
21:25:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh
21:25:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you finally finished?
21:25:53  <PublicServer> <Godde> what am i to do at trottingbridge?
21:26:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, no prios, but not so sure either line has prio anyay
21:26:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no bridges but their easy enough
21:26:25  <Seppel> !password
21:26:25  <PublicServer> Seppel: noodle
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21:26:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't prio a line, because it is more important than an other line
21:26:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wow!
21:26:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who was just bribing?
21:27:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> me, spent 100M on city expansion
21:27:05  <PublicServer> <Godde> wasnt that funding buildings?
21:27:08  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not I, for once
21:27:10  <mensi> Trottingbridge will never grow
21:27:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to no effect
21:27:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> one or the other
21:27:25  <mensi> it's kind of locked in
21:27:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> funding buildings takes time to affect
21:27:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Kenji: you X has 2tile gap
21:27:56  <PublicServer> <Godde> how did you grow the other city that fast? (wasnt me that spent 100m)
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21:27:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I know
21:28:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> easy fix ;-)
21:28:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that'll slow though
21:28:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> actually it would anyway >_<
21:28:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not slower than without
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21:29:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but I assume, you won't have trains that close together anyway
21:29:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> shouldn't
21:29:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why do you guys brib e?
21:29:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> since they /should/ even themselves out
21:29:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> plant trees
21:29:48  <PublicServer> <Godde> i wasnt bribing
21:29:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> anything else Amm?
21:30:09  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> funding buildings is only good once every 3 months]
21:30:13  <PublicServer> <Godde> i know
21:30:15  <PublicServer> <Godde> :P
21:30:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> huge hub :P
21:30:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I know
21:30:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
21:30:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but it aught to shuffle traffic evenly
21:30:57  <PublicServer> <Godde> whoever is building at trottingbridge - i'll keep planting trees to keep them happy :P
21:31:10  <PublicServer> <tneo> and you need 1/3 of the map for that ? ;-)
21:31:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> by pushing the 'inside' lines to the 'outside'
21:31:23  <^Spike^> !password
21:31:23  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: noodle
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21:31:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> godde, you could also just help me build
21:32:03  <PublicServer> <Godde> oke XD
21:33:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we know about the slowdown
21:34:01  <PublicServer> <tneo> ok :-)
21:34:07  <PublicServer> <tneo> didn't know you knew ):
21:34:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> slow down?
21:34:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it shouldn't affect flow
21:34:24  <PublicServer> <tneo> pbs always let's trains wait
21:34:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the one we were looking at earlier ammer
21:35:01  <PublicServer> * AmmIer doesn't listen, if tneo tells rubish about pbs {;-)}
21:35:19  <Ammler> !setdef
21:35:19  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns and set path_backoff_interval to 1
21:35:25  <Ammler> tneo: ^
21:35:39  <Ammler> specially " path_backoff_interval to 1"
21:35:47  <PublicServer> <tneo> Kenji: coming from north did you do on purpose just merge onto 2 lines ?
21:35:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well that's finally my first coop BBH
21:36:04  <Ammler> default is 20, that is why you have the feeling, pbs is slow.
21:36:21  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> makes it look slower
21:36:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> how do you mean tneo?
21:36:33  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> default clear time for blocks it what, 5?
21:36:46  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's essentially the time before it clears
21:36:55  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how often one signal can check for a path
21:36:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 1
21:37:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or 0, dunno
21:37:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tneo, yes
21:37:17  <PublicServer> <tneo> coming from A you can only get to 1 & 2 not 3 & 4 on the inner loop
21:37:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> block is block
21:37:21  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> block signals just check if the block is open, nearly constantly
21:37:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> pbs only checks if a path is available
21:38:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> on the same turn, as a block signals checks if it is free
21:38:29  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and only once every backoff interval...
21:38:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yep
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21:39:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and the interval is 1, so it is as fast as block
21:39:04  <tneo> i'm off to bed
21:39:17  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yay!
21:39:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i much prefer PBS personally.. i just wish there was a way to prioritize PBS...
21:39:37  <tneo> night all
21:39:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night tneo
21:39:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there is a try at forums.
21:40:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> with long reserve pbs
21:40:12  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> can you set how many signals?
21:40:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or also from the yapp guru itself: advanced signals
21:40:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ZarenorDarkstalker: yep
21:41:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hmmm
21:41:38  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> may have to see if i can rig a concept if it ever makes trunk
21:41:52  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> would love to see a PBS-Based coop game
21:42:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I use pbs all the time
21:43:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't have to chose one it
21:43:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> both have advantage in some cases
21:44:50  <Godde> is there anyone here with some free time that can help me make a 3-way junction with 3 tracks each way? im having a really hard time making an efficient one
21:45:09  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm not great, but how much space is there?
21:45:10  <Ammler> check our wiki
21:45:21  <PublicServer> <Godde> theres no 6track 3way at the wiki xD
21:45:50  <Ammler> I am kinda sure, there is everything in the wiki
21:45:52  <PublicServer> <Godde> it doesnt have to be small - as long as it is efficient
21:46:03  <PublicServer> <Godde> well, i'll go have another look sometime :p
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21:46:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
21:46:34  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if you want an expandable design look at PSG 136
21:46:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we has aan ICE
21:46:46  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it had 4 track in one direction
21:47:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you could surely look at that and get ideas
21:47:03  <PublicServer> <Godde> k
21:47:14  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or look for a PSG that had a wide BBH
21:47:16  <PublicServer> <Godde> i tried different games form the archives, but i couldnt find anything
21:47:28  <PublicServer> <Godde> all i find are circles and stuff xD
21:47:34  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
21:48:02  <PublicServer> <Godde> gonna have a look at PSG 136 then - brb :)
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21:48:20  <ZarenorDarkstalker> !password
21:48:20  <PublicServer> ZarenorDarkstalker: darned
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21:49:19  <Godde> btw, why are some of the old locos black squares when i use the opengfx option for graphics?
21:49:37  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> those haven't been developed for opengfx yet
21:49:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> because opengfx is an alpha?
21:49:50  <Godde> damn xD
21:49:56  <Godde> everything else looks good
21:50:02  <Godde> except for a few buildings
21:50:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I can't get used to opengfx, I find it less 'crisp' or 'sharp' than base
21:50:55  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yeah, i tried it, but there was something about it...
21:51:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it looks blurry thats what :P
21:51:26  <Godde> it feels more gentle though, easier to look at
21:51:50  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hmm, may be a ood point godde...
21:51:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it annoys me, it's like constantly watching out of focus film
21:52:06  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but personally i find my beauty in clean edges... generally
21:52:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ZD, you been following the 96.comic conversion?
21:52:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i haven't the foggiest what that is, so no
21:53:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lemme dig it up on TT-F
21:54:11  <KenjiE20> ZD -> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=43192
21:54:17  <mensi> Thijs, any plans for the SBahn <-> ICE transfer?
21:54:31  <Godde> the BBH in 136 is a 5lane circle with 3_3 SLs... :( i havent got any idea how to make it into all 3_3...
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21:56:17  <Razaekel> !password
21:56:17  <PublicServer> Razaekel: snipes
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21:58:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> trottingbridge is beggining to look like a city
21:58:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> rumblewell makes me think of some weird lovechild between simcity 4 and openttd
21:58:58  <Godde> someone used a !tunnel command earlier - what does that do?
21:59:16  <KenjiE20> !tunnels
21:59:16  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: <gap>/(<trainlength>+2)
21:59:24  <ZarenorDarkstalker> haha.. anything like this it a bit of a simcity lovechild
21:59:39  <KenjiE20> heh
21:59:59  <Godde> what is the gap parT?
22:00:09  <KenjiE20> I want streets of simcity and simcopter for current gen
22:00:16  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> alright, i need a bit of a break, dinner soon, but i plan to be back
22:00:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> zd, did you take a look at that link?
22:00:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i want a new simcity for PC with better performance
22:00:51  <Godde> what is "gap" - (!tunnels command)
22:00:52  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i did, it's staying up in the background for further rewiew
22:01:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cool
22:01:03  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i liked the way that looked
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22:01:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I could stand that for a replacement basegrf
22:01:34  <Godde> !tunnels 6 2
22:01:34  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 2.
22:01:34  * davis` hi
22:01:41  <davis`> !download win64
22:01:41  <PublicServer> davis`: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-windows-win64.zip
22:01:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> much agreed
22:01:51  <KenjiE20> woo /amsg of doom
22:01:57  <Godde> !tunnels 6 4
22:01:57  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 4.
22:01:58  <davis`> haha /ame
22:02:08  <davis`> but yeah. sorry
22:02:23  <Godde> is gap gap between signals or the length of the tunnel/bridge
22:02:37  <davis`> !playercount
22:02:37  <PublicServer> davis`: Number of players: 10
22:02:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> tunnel/bridge
22:02:48  <Godde> thanks
22:02:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> which creates signal gaps...
22:02:54  <ropiku> !password
22:02:55  <PublicServer> ropiku: snipes
22:02:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or signals
22:03:02  <PublicServer> *** ropiku joined the game
22:03:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> depends on construction
22:03:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i am going, but please continu trottingbridge
22:03:30  <davis`> !password
22:03:30  <PublicServer> davis`: snipes
22:03:30  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so it can be useful for anywhere where you must deviate from standard 2-square signal gap
22:04:15  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm going essentially AFk, so I'll join spectators, but if someone wants to continue Sliggleswell
22:04:32  <PublicServer> *** Thijs has left the game (leaving)
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22:04:33  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the far northwest ring has an example
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22:04:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> for the rest of the town...
22:05:04  <KenjiE20> must.rest.brain.
22:05:04  <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined spectators
22:05:08  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
22:05:16  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> enjoy your break then
22:05:37  <PublicServer> *** davis has left the game (connection lost)
22:05:42  <ZarenorDarkstalker> I plan on some tylenol before i get back
22:05:51  <PublicServer> *** davis has left the game (connection lost)
22:05:59  <davis`> !password
22:05:59  <PublicServer> davis`: snipes
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22:06:18  <PublicServer> *** davis joined the game
22:06:24  <PublicServer> <davis> =)
22:08:08  <PublicServer> <davis> Rumblewell > *
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22:10:17  <Godde> !tunnels 6 11
22:10:17  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 11.
22:10:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the cap of the transrapid is way to high
22:11:22  <Razaekel> not if it's japanese
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22:12:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, compared to the local traffic waggons
22:13:01  <Razaekel> have you seen the japanese subways?
22:13:20  <Razaekel> they have jobs where the job is to PUSH more people into the cars
22:13:23  <KenjiE20> yes
22:13:26  <PublicServer> <davis> haha , i'd be scared.
22:13:27  <Razaekel> just so the door can close
22:13:36  <KenjiE20> they were only that busy during the old peak rush hour
22:13:49  <KenjiE20> it's not quite as bad these days
22:14:04  <KenjiE20> since they finally introduced flexitime
22:14:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you compare japan subway with Transrapid?
22:14:21  <Razaekel> yes i dare
22:14:33  <Razaekel> kenji, personal experience?
22:14:38  <KenjiE20> yes
22:14:46  <Ammler> I would compare that with EMU
22:14:47  <KenjiE20> few years ago, but yes
22:15:08  <Razaekel> mustve been fun
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 3tile EMU= 536
22:15:30  <KenjiE20> yep
22:15:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 3tile Transrapid=720
22:15:45  <KenjiE20> Osaka was interesting
22:15:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is completly wrong
22:15:55  <KenjiE20> they seperate peaktime trains into mens and womens only
22:16:48  <Razaekel> makes sense
22:17:21  <Razaekel> less chance of, uh, 'unaccepted sexual interactions' occuring
22:17:45  <KenjiE20> yep
22:17:58  <Xaroth> sucks if you're traveling with a 'friend' tho :P
22:18:08  <KenjiE20> don't travel at rush hours?
22:18:15  <Razaekel> yea that
22:18:20  <KenjiE20> that's usually good advice anyway
22:18:21  <Xaroth> point
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22:26:10  <mensi> how will the ICE work? will it take passengers to other ICE stations and pass them over to SBahns or just drop the passengers off at the ICE  station which will hopefully accept passengers?
22:34:47  <Godde> yes
22:36:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> evening
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22:36:55  <PublicServer> <davis> hi
22:36:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> evening?
22:37:03  <PublicServer> <davis> 00:36
22:37:08  <mensi> hehe
22:37:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> what should i say then?
22:37:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> goodnight?
22:37:37  <mensi> midnight
22:38:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> my town already hit its limits
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22:47:24  <mensi> I made a poor attempt at SR in Trottingbridge ;)
22:48:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> SR does not mean Sbahn in general
22:48:24  <mensi> ?
22:48:28  <mensi> I meant self regulating
22:48:37  <PublicServer> <davis> lol
22:48:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh wait
22:48:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> looked at the wrong town
22:49:02  <mensi> hehe
22:49:30  <mensi> Thijs built the network layout at Trottingbridge, I just added the ICE transfer + trains
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22:50:42  <Amr0d> !password
22:50:42  <PublicServer> Amr0d: stubby
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22:53:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> im off, goodnight
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22:53:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nn
22:53:58  <Godde> !tunnels 6 10
22:53:58  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 10.
22:55:22  <PublicServer> <davis> magic bulldozer = on?
22:55:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes
22:55:33  <PublicServer> <davis> okay
22:59:55  <PublicServer> <davis> cities growing fast
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23:01:34  <mitooo> going to bed, good night :)
23:01:55  <Amr0d> ammler? qry?
23:01:59  <PublicServer> <davis> gn
23:02:14  <Ammler> Amr0d: ?
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23:02:31  <Amr0d> just have a few questions, but its easier in german :)
23:05:43  <Godde> took fking ages, but i finally got my junction, and it works and its MINE... *sigh* *cheer of joy*
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23:06:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
23:06:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> isn't that a "better" feeling?
23:06:32  <Godde> not really, cause i havent tested it yet, and it looks awful and uses half the map, but still - its mine
23:06:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
23:06:56  <Godde> and one of the 3way tracks merge before split.... :/
23:06:59  <Godde> couldnt help it
23:07:49  <PublicServer> <davis> anticlimax isn't it
23:08:15  <PublicServer> <davis> :D :) :| :( D:
23:08:24  <Godde> lol
23:09:45  <XeryusTC> !password
23:09:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: agiler
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23:11:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice that no one puts a proper network plan sign over the network plan
23:12:12  <Godde> yea, isnt it? :D
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23:17:43  <Godde> !playercount
23:17:43  <PublicServer> Godde: Number of players: 6
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23:21:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> menno
23:21:45  <mensi> ?
23:22:17  <mensi> bisch du de städteschänder?
23:22:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> dr was?
23:23:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
23:23:19  <mensi> de wo sich a de Trottingbridger innestadt vergriift
23:23:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I try to get pax to the transfer station
23:24:16  <mensi> loool
23:27:54  <Ammler> !rcon set town_growth_rate
23:27:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '4' (min: 0, max: 4)
23:35:19  <De_Ghost> !password
23:35:19  <PublicServer> De_Ghost: pimple
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23:36:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
23:36:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what's with these fail cities
23:36:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> fail?
23:36:16  <mensi> take one, make it great ;)
23:38:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> fail in the sense that u have more tracks then buildings
23:38:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nice isn't?
23:38:52  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> although it does look kinda cool
23:39:01  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> back
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23:39:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u are like at city growth limit beacuse of the way u lay ur tracks
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23:40:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u really do have more tracks then buildaled palce for the city hahhaah
23:41:03  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> which city?
23:41:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> runningwell
23:41:42  <mensi> rumblewell?
23:41:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> haha, your description of the name pretty much fits it
23:42:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> can i re elect the mayor for
23:42:32  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> sliggleswell?
23:42:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> why?
23:42:44  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i nominate me
23:42:47  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
23:42:48  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> why?
23:42:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> for my plan
23:43:02  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz the current one makes no sense to me
23:43:11  <PublicServer> <davis> iam so gonna spectator sport Sliggleswell
23:43:13  <mensi> go relect yourself for Windybridge, it has no mayor
23:43:14  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and it makes sense to me
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23:43:17  <mensi> or an unknown one
23:43:20  <AntBUK> !playercount
23:43:20  <PublicServer> AntBUK: Number of players: 7
23:43:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> they why don't u build it
23:43:28  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> windybridge is free as far as we know
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23:43:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is anarchy tonw
23:43:44  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> because i was AFK., i built what is there, and I'm working on it now
23:44:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> De_Ghost: please, keep lovely
23:45:03  <AntBUK> !password
23:45:03  <PublicServer> AntBUK: lagoon
23:45:25  <AntBUK> !download
23:45:25  <PublicServer> AntBUK: !download autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
23:45:31  <AntBUK> !download lin
23:45:31  <PublicServer> AntBUK: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16189/openttd-trunk-r16189-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
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23:48:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> De_Ghost, if you'd rather work on sliggleswell, the west ICE station needs to be built
23:51:29  <AntBUK> !password
23:51:29  <PublicServer> AntBUK: lagoon
23:53:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't full load the ICE
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23:55:02  <AntBUK> !password
23:55:02  <PublicServer> AntBUK: cedars
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23:55:37  <PublicServer> <Ant> one word, WOW!
23:55:46  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i want to work on it
23:55:47  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> my way
23:55:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> not a fail deisng
23:56:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> design
23:56:27  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how is mine going to fail?
23:56:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u rely on too much bus
23:56:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> no, i don't use any busses
23:57:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> looks more like station walk
23:57:13  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> those could just as easily be stationwalked trainstations
23:57:35  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i prefer bus stations for them not taking up physical space
23:57:48  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or not any more than the road that's already there
23:57:54  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> bus / station walk = failz :o
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23:58:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
23:58:48  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> rumblewell is like @ limit it's degrowing
23:58:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
23:59:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and it's pretty empty of trains
23:59:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that needs boarder stations
23:59:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there are lots of not serviced stations
23:59:31  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> rumblewell has plenty of stations not even in use yet