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00:04:16 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 00:04:16 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 00:04:21 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 00:04:37 <PeterT> !password 00:04:37 <PublicServer> PeterT: soring 00:04:47 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 00:04:48 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 00:05:30 <SmatZ> [02:04:25] <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? <== what is this spam? 00:05:59 <SmatZ> is it a reply to PeterT's join? :) 00:06:10 <tussengas> nah, its not only at peters' 00:06:31 <tussengas> but i think it's true that it is usualy after someone joins 00:09:25 <OwenS> SmatZ: Automatic comment on PeterT joining, yes 00:10:43 <SmatZ> hehe 00:13:28 <PublicServer> <tussengas> peter building? 00:13:35 * KenjiE20 wonders why PeterT felt the need to mess with / break Combusters counter 00:13:35 <PublicServer> <Peter> nope 00:13:50 <PublicServer> <Peter> there, put it back 00:14:49 <PublicServer> <Peter> sorry, its working now 00:15:02 <PublicServer> *** tussengas has left the game (leaving) 00:15:02 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:15:50 <KenjiE20> good, though you didn't have to force the train, it self-fixes 00:16:56 *** Polygon has quit IRC 00:17:35 <PublicServer> <Peter> how the hell do you know that i forced the train? 00:17:40 <KenjiE20> magic 00:17:50 <PublicServer> <Peter> WITCH! 00:17:56 <PublicServer> <Peter> burn him 00:18:17 <KenjiE20> witch is the wrong gender 00:18:24 <tussengas> i prever crusifixxes 00:18:28 <KenjiE20> I'll have you know it's warlock 00:18:37 * KenjiE20 turns PeterT into a newt 00:18:48 <KenjiE20> also a mute 00:18:53 *** KenjiE20 sets mode: -v PeterT 00:18:55 <KenjiE20> :D 00:18:56 <tussengas> :P 00:19:05 <tussengas> poor peter 00:19:13 <PublicServer> <Peter> lol 00:19:21 <tussengas> hmm :P 00:19:33 <tussengas> stubborn newt :p 00:19:36 *** neuroticus has joined #openttdcoop 00:19:41 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v neuroticus 00:19:43 <PublicServer> <Peter> i said witch on purpose (burn!!!) 00:19:46 <KenjiE20> apparently he got better 00:19:49 <neuroticus> !password 00:19:49 <PublicServer> neuroticus: raster 00:20:15 <tussengas> btw, how many minutes between every password switch? 00:20:18 <tussengas> and why! 00:20:40 <KenjiE20> 5 and to stop banned people rejoining 00:20:46 <KenjiE20> amongst other things 00:21:06 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 00:21:13 *** PeterT has left #openttdcoop 00:21:20 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 00:21:20 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 00:21:25 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 00:22:34 <neuroticus> !win64 00:22:40 <neuroticus> !help 00:22:40 <PublicServer> neuroticus: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 00:22:44 <tussengas> !dl win64 00:22:44 <PublicServer> tussengas: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17134/openttd-trunk-r17134-windows-win64.zip 00:22:45 <tussengas> ? 00:22:59 <neuroticus> ta mate 00:23:31 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 00:23:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 00:23:35 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:23:35 *** PeterT has quit IRC 00:23:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20|LT 00:25:05 <neuroticus> !password 00:25:05 <PublicServer> neuroticus: lepers 00:25:25 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus joined the game 00:25:33 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> Hey guys :) voting? 00:25:43 <KenjiE20|LT> @topic get 3 00:25:43 <Webster> KenjiE20|LT: STAGE: Voting 00:26:05 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> How do we have so much money to start anyway? 00:26:13 <tussengas> hacks :p 00:26:31 <tussengas> i assume we started with a 1billion cheat 00:26:34 <KenjiE20|LT> cause that's how the save was? 00:26:55 <Maza> @topic get 9 00:26:55 <Webster> Maza: Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder 00:26:55 <tussengas> correction, it was saved with an 1billion cheat :p 00:27:01 <Maza> @topic get 10 00:27:14 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ? 00:27:16 <Maza> @topic get 11 00:27:32 <Maza> hmm, found a bug on webster 00:27:46 <Maza> it replies Error: '9' is not a valid topic number. 00:27:55 <Maza> when I actually said 10 00:28:13 <tussengas> @topic get 10 00:28:17 <tussengas> @topic get 9 00:28:17 <Webster> tussengas: Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder 00:28:19 <KenjiE20|LT> pfft there are many 00:28:24 <tussengas> @topic get 8 00:28:24 <Webster> tussengas: Get a userpage if you don't have one yet 00:28:39 <tussengas> @topic get 5 00:28:39 <Webster> tussengas: Use !help for IRC-commands 00:28:49 <tussengas> useless comment imo :p 00:29:04 <KenjiE20|LT> unless your a new fish 00:29:11 <tussengas> @topic get 1 00:29:11 <Webster> tussengas: Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD 00:29:18 <XeryusTC> @topic get -3 00:29:18 <Webster> XeryusTC: Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ 00:29:21 <XeryusTC> >:) 00:29:31 <tussengas> if you are a new fish, you don't know the commands? 00:29:33 <KenjiE20|LT> ^ important one :) 00:29:42 <KenjiE20|LT> well presumably yes 00:29:44 <XeryusTC> !fish 00:29:44 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 00:29:47 <tussengas> link fails kenji... 00:29:48 <KenjiE20|LT> since you'd be new and all 00:29:54 <XeryusTC> !fish 00:29:54 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 00:29:55 <XeryusTC> !fish 00:29:55 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 00:29:56 <XeryusTC> !fish 00:29:56 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 00:29:58 <XeryusTC> bah 00:30:14 * tussengas slaps XeryusTC around a bit with a large trout 00:30:15 <KenjiE20|LT> what link? 00:30:23 <tussengas> @topic get -3 00:30:23 <Webster> tussengas: Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ 00:30:26 <tussengas> that one 00:30:33 <KenjiE20|LT> works here 00:30:46 <tussengas> or is it supposed to go to the upload page? 00:30:53 <KenjiE20|LT> that's the point 00:31:11 <KenjiE20|LT> it's so you don't fill the wiki hard drive with unrelted drivel 00:31:12 <tussengas> ah, thought i could see sshots there :p 00:31:25 <KenjiE20|LT> unrelated* 00:33:33 *** ODM has quit IRC 00:34:11 <XeryusTC> time to go to bed 00:34:18 <XeryusTC> i have to get up at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning :P 00:34:20 <KenjiE20|LT> ahh, I missed last weeks 'Rivers' 00:34:32 <KenjiE20|LT> oh well, 2 eps to watch now 00:34:40 <KenjiE20|LT> and there's a Top Gear repeat available too 00:38:56 *** andy|p has quit IRC 00:40:20 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> kenjie where do thesave games come from? 00:41:19 <KenjiE20|LT> a person :) 00:42:49 <neuroticus> yeh 00:43:00 <neuroticus> dont worry, lol 00:43:59 <neuroticus> i dont understand the game start, you get a save game from a person (who?) and then you either A. start with lots of money or B. "moneymaker" where you setup a coal transport to make money 01:04:34 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:28:13 *** Zulan has quit IRC 01:30:22 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus has left the game (connection lost) 01:30:23 *** neuroticus has quit IRC 01:31:31 *** Zantor has joined #openttdcoop 01:31:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Zantor 01:31:38 <Zantor> anyone around? 01:31:51 <Zantor> .help 01:54:46 *** Zantor has left #openttdcoop 02:05:23 *** Nebri has quit IRC 02:12:53 *** Fuco has quit IRC 02:16:40 *** themroc has quit IRC 02:24:33 *** el[cube] has joined #openttdcoop 02:24:39 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v el[cube] 02:26:23 *** eleusis has quit IRC 02:34:51 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 04:02:26 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 04:02:26 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 04:02:31 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 04:03:28 <PeterT> !password 04:03:28 <PublicServer> PeterT: grated 04:03:42 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 04:04:06 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 04:04:10 *** PeterT has quit IRC 06:45:44 *** ^spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:45:49 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ^spike^ 06:52:29 *** LordAzamath has joined #openttdcoop 06:52:34 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v LordAzamath 06:54:46 <LordAzamath> !password 06:54:46 <PublicServer> LordAzamath: ailing 06:54:55 <PublicServer> *** Madis joined the game 06:57:54 <PublicServer> *** Madis has left the game (leaving) 07:01:30 *** raWt has joined #openttdcoop 07:01:35 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v raWt 07:10:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o valhallasw 07:14:45 *** FiCE has quit IRC 07:41:51 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 07:42:15 *** raWt has quit IRC 07:42:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> wow, 4 towns :) 07:43:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Ulaanbaatar :-D Isn't that the capital of Mongolia? 07:44:18 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 07:44:36 <SmatZ> ah, those town names are set manually :) 08:15:05 *** Condac has quit IRC 08:17:08 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 08:17:13 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Polygon 08:54:11 <Webster> Latest update from monitor: [unreachable] - www.openttdcoop.org <http://www.montastic.com/feeds/view/167359?key=0f789eddba0169ccc87d88d86f1ed26c5d168c69> 09:04:12 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 09:04:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 09:42:47 *** insulfrog has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v insulfrog 09:42:55 <insulfrog> !password 09:42:55 <PublicServer> insulfrog: neighs 09:43:38 <insulfrog> !password 09:43:38 <PublicServer> insulfrog: neighs 09:43:49 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog joined the game 09:48:54 *** TQL has joined #openttdcoop 09:48:59 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v TQL 09:49:24 <TQL> !password 09:49:24 <PublicServer> TQL: neighs 09:49:40 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 09:49:42 <PublicServer> *** TQL joined the game 09:53:35 <PublicServer> *** TQL has left the game (leaving) 09:53:36 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 09:53:39 *** TQL has quit IRC 09:58:13 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 09:58:18 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin 10:04:31 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog has left the game (leaving) 10:04:33 *** insulfrog has quit IRC 10:04:50 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop 10:04:55 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v dihedral 10:04:57 <dihedral> hello 10:05:00 <dihedral> how is this world? 10:05:47 *** muszek has joined #openttdcoop 10:05:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v muszek 10:05:57 <muszek> hi 10:06:00 <muszek> !password 10:06:00 <PublicServer> muszek: pealed 10:06:28 <PublicServer> *** muszek joined the game 10:09:19 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:24 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Nickman87 10:10:21 <Nickman87> !password 10:10:21 <PublicServer> Nickman87: deacon 10:10:35 <PublicServer> *** Nickman joined the game 10:11:40 *** Combuster has quit IRC 10:14:49 *** dihedral has left #openttdcoop 10:15:25 <Nickman87> morning 10:17:01 <PublicServer> *** muszek has left the game (leaving) 10:17:14 *** ^spike^ is now known as ^Spike^ 10:17:15 <muszek> bye 10:17:21 *** muszek has quit IRC 10:33:28 <PublicServer> *** Nickman has left the game (leaving) 10:44:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 10:44:38 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 10:51:46 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:51:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:51:51 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20 10:56:42 *** FiCE has joined #openttdcoop 10:56:47 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v FiCE 11:13:47 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Venxir 11:30:14 <tussengas> !password 11:30:14 <PublicServer> tussengas: recite 11:30:51 <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game 11:36:53 <PublicServer> *** tussengas has left the game (leaving) 11:37:02 *** themroc has joined #openttdcoop 11:37:07 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v themroc 12:02:47 *** tussengas has quit IRC 12:03:17 *** tussengas has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:22 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v tussengas 12:03:30 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:35 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v highpinger 12:09:40 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 12:20:30 *** LordAzamath has quit IRC 12:45:40 *** insulfrog has joined #openttdcoop 12:45:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v insulfrog 12:45:47 <insulfrog> !playercount 12:45:47 <PublicServer> insulfrog: Number of players: 0 12:45:50 *** insulfrog has quit IRC 12:49:05 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 12:49:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Wurzel49 12:51:22 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 12:51:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 12:51:27 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Thraxian|Work 13:00:21 <Seppel> !download win32 13:00:21 <PublicServer> Seppel: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17134/openttd-trunk-r17134-windows-win32.zip 13:04:47 <Seppel> !pw 13:04:51 <Seppel> !password 13:04:51 <PublicServer> Seppel: tarred 13:04:57 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 13:07:31 *** Root49 has joined #openttdcoop 13:07:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Root49 13:11:12 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 13:13:08 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 13:23:12 <ODM> ey guys 13:23:46 <tussengas> !password 13:23:46 <PublicServer> tussengas: grazed 13:24:08 <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game 13:24:26 <PublicServer> <tussengas> nothing changed :( 13:24:47 <KenjiE20> good 13:24:50 <PublicServer> *** tussengas has left the game (leaving) 13:24:57 <tussengas> i ment, no new votes :p 13:25:07 <KenjiE20> then say that :) 13:25:07 <tussengas> was intrested if something changed in that 13:25:18 <tussengas> well... nothing includes the voting :P 13:25:31 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 13:25:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Nickman87 13:25:42 *** KenjiE20 sets mode: -m 13:25:47 *** KenjiE20 sets mode: -o openttdcoop 13:25:48 <Webster> Latest update from monitor: [OK] - www.openttdcoop.org <http://www.montastic.com/feeds/view/167359?key=0f789eddba0169ccc87d88d86f1ed26c5d168c69> 13:25:54 <Nickman87> !players 13:25:54 <KenjiE20> that's really bugging me now 13:25:55 <PublicServer> Nickman87: There are currently no clients connected to the server 13:26:02 <Nickman87> !password 13:26:02 <PublicServer> Nickman87: grazed 13:26:26 <PublicServer> *** Nickman joined the game 13:27:40 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:16 <Barbaar> !password 13:28:16 <PublicServer> Barbaar: grazed 13:28:22 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 13:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 13:29:12 <Ammler> HeyaBeya 13:32:53 <Nickman87> hi Ammler ;) 13:33:02 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hello 13:33:12 <PublicServer> <Nickman> hi 13:36:50 <Ammler> sali Nickman87 :-) 13:37:07 <Nickman87> :) 13:37:21 <PublicServer> <Nickman> somebody voted for my plan :| 13:37:24 <PublicServer> <Nickman> 3 people already 13:38:04 <^Spike^> !ip 13:38:04 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ps.openttdcoop.org 13:38:22 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 13:40:20 <Ammler> Nickman87: already something coded for openttd? 13:41:08 <Ammler> oh, sali Thraxian|Work 13:41:36 <Thraxian|Work> ? 13:41:57 <Nickman87> what should I code Ammler? The Fatmap? :D 13:42:08 <Ammler> e.g. 13:42:17 <Ammler> or do you like to update a small patch? 13:42:30 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 13:42:36 <Nickman87> which patch? :) 13:42:39 <Ammler> sign filter would be cool to have it up2date 13:43:27 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository <-- one of those 13:44:55 <Nickman87> how do you want me to update them? Download the diff, apply, fix errror and make a new? 13:45:19 <Ammler> well, first step should be to check the according tt-forums thread 13:45:32 <Ammler> maybe there is a newer version 13:45:37 <Nickman87> I'll look at the sign filter ;) 13:45:42 <Ammler> cool :-) 13:46:12 <^Spike^> bleh.. fighting again with autottd.. :) 13:50:14 <PublicServer> *** Nickman has left the game (connection lost) 13:50:14 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 13:50:20 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined spectators 13:51:04 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 13:51:18 *** Nickman_87 has joined #openttdcoop 13:51:29 <Nickman_87> hmmm, in the thread there is a version 22, but in the dev repository, there is no version, only match to revision number :) 13:51:33 <Nickman_87> the latsest version in the thread was backported to 0.7.0 13:51:45 <Nickman_87> should I start from there, or form the dev repository? 13:54:40 <Ammler> I would use the one from pm 13:57:44 <Nickman_87> and if I updated it, I give the file to you? :) 13:58:45 <Ammler> well, you could commit it there, I would add you as dev 13:59:20 <Nickman_87> :D 13:59:24 <Nickman_87> I'll take a look at it first ;) 13:59:33 <Ammler> hmm, maybe better :-P 13:59:51 <Ammler> I am quite sure, it isn't that easy. 13:59:51 <Nickman_87> can I use simple svn? 14:00:07 * ^Spike^ doesn't understand much of the java project on dev :) 14:00:07 <Ammler> oh, indeed, it is svn 14:00:27 <Ammler> ^Spike^: ask 14:00:41 <^Spike^> could be an idea :) 14:01:00 <^Spike^> first need to fix too much on my computer... 14:01:10 <^Spike^> missing software and guess also other stuff since autottd refuses to work :) 14:01:11 <Nickman_87> checking out :) 14:01:24 *** Ammler sets mode: +m 14:01:31 *** Ammler sets mode: +o openttdcoop 14:01:41 *** Ammler sets mode: +v Nickman_87 14:01:49 *** Ammler sets mode: +v Barbaar 14:04:05 <Nickman_87> you setting modes yourself? :) 14:09:24 <Mark> 'lo 14:11:26 <Chris_Booth> !password 14:11:26 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: morbid 14:11:46 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 14:12:00 *** insulfrog has joined #openttdcoop 14:12:04 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v insulfrog 14:12:07 <insulfrog> !playercount 14:12:07 <PublicServer> insulfrog: Number of players: 2 14:12:47 <insulfrog> !password 14:12:47 <PublicServer> insulfrog: morbid 14:12:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 14:12:57 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog joined the game 14:13:22 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 14:13:36 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi Mark 14:13:52 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 14:14:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> #lo 14:14:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm 14:14:29 <PublicServer> <Mark> there is no mlev in this trainset 14:14:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> nickman may like to change that 14:15:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no meglev ever? 14:15:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> never ever 14:15:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about high speed erail? 14:15:38 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thats because it is only the 1960's game time, maglev comes into play around 2020+ 14:15:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> not with this trainset 14:15:58 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ah 14:16:06 <Mark> [16:14] <+PublicServer> <Mark> there is no mlev in this trainset 14:16:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nut it has original engines loaded aswell 14:16:29 <^Spike^> !password 14:16:29 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: morbid 14:16:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and tto had maglev 14:16:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah but we're not going to use those 14:16:36 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 14:16:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why not? 14:17:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> because it should not be loaded in the first place 14:17:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why are the loaded if we can use them? 14:19:34 <Thraxian|Work> ^Spike^: if you are in the game as "player", then please use the "name <newname>" console command to give yourself a different name :) 14:19:46 <^Spike^> ah sorry 14:19:47 <^Spike^> :) 14:19:49 <^Spike^> reinstall crap :) 14:19:52 <Thraxian|Work> no worries.... 14:19:53 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Spike 14:20:01 <Thraxian|Work> I do it all the time 14:20:18 <^Spike^> guess it's more the problem i reinstalled all etc 14:20:25 <^Spike^> and forgot where i left my other openttd 14:20:38 <Thraxian|Work> I left mine in my other pants - did you check yours? 14:20:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its more the problem you didnt chdck your name befor connecting 14:21:07 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 14:21:28 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:21:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i cant believe 2 people have voted for my plan 14:22:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> me neither 14:22:01 <^Spike^> then don't? 14:22:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i might just ban it coz i hate it that much 14:23:20 <^Spike^> !password 14:23:21 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: malign 14:23:28 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 14:24:18 <Thraxian|Work> what are you going to ban? your own plan? 14:24:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 14:25:04 <Ammler> he? you don't like your own plan? 14:25:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and combusters stupid clock 14:25:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i did until i had to remove things 14:25:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like the factory and oil ref 14:25:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so now i looks stupid 14:25:54 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 14:26:08 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and will have a nasty BBH 01 14:28:11 <highpinger> !password 14:28:11 <PublicServer> highpinger: malign 14:28:20 <PublicServer> *** highpinger joined the game 14:28:29 <Mark> try reading the scenario before making a plan next time 14:28:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i will 14:28:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can 14:29:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont we need goods to make towns grow in the desert? 14:29:10 <Mark> indeed we dont 14:29:16 <Mark> click a town and read what it says 14:29:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just food and water 14:29:28 <Mark> exactly :) 14:29:32 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it should be forbidden to vote for other plan, if you made one. 14:29:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> why? 14:29:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why? 14:29:54 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is so strange 14:30:03 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you make a plan but don't like it yourself? 14:30:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> it is strange yes 14:30:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but what if your like me and hate your plan? 14:30:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> then you shouldnt make a plan 14:30:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> blah 14:30:57 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm not making a plan this time, I did that last game :p 14:30:58 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the only serious plan here might be kenjis and LAs 14:31:17 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> all others voted for the other plans, so not worth to check those 14:31:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> heh 14:33:17 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no trainset? 14:33:36 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh default set 14:33:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah us train set 14:33:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there are 2 loaded 14:34:02 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 3 14:34:05 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I have a Hornby model train set in my room, will that do :p 14:34:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TFR aswell 14:34:15 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tropic has trains too 14:34:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> didnt see that 14:34:25 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tropic, default and us 14:34:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> :D 14:34:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who made this map? 14:34:52 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> combuster, afaik 14:34:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 14:35:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what a rubish choice of sets 14:35:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just pick 1 and stick to it 14:35:17 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-) 14:35:30 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, that is what you coulde define in your plan. 14:35:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have 14:35:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use the fastest loco 14:35:52 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> i.e. combuster banned chaos 14:35:58 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and default set 14:36:11 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh no, that was mark :-) 14:36:14 *** LordAzamath has joined #openttdcoop 14:36:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 14:36:19 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v LordAzamath 14:36:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why you banning trains 14:36:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i want default trains 14:36:36 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so default set is banned in general? 14:36:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 14:36:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as they are fast 14:36:46 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 14:36:48 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why did you load it then? 14:36:53 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 14:36:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> it obviously wasnt intented to have them 14:37:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure if both TRS and USS were though 14:37:36 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then you should remove it from the save, wouldn't need such rules 14:37:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or ask combuster 14:37:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> i have no idea how i would remove the default set 14:38:04 <PublicServer> <Kenji> it breaks 14:38:14 <PublicServer> <Kenji> remember I did the same thing Mark 14:38:21 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> remove newgrf "original engines?" 14:38:26 <PublicServer> <Kenji> we had to fuxx about with resetengines 14:38:42 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> reset engines is obsolete 14:38:45 <PublicServer> <Kenji> that save still dies if you change sets now 14:39:04 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that command will be runned automatically if you push apply in ghe newgrf gui 14:39:15 *** raWt has joined #openttdcoop 14:39:20 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v raWt 14:39:32 <PublicServer> <Mark> off to shower 14:39:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler you meen run 14:39:34 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 14:39:40 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 14:39:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> of course he does 14:39:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> ... 14:39:54 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 14:40:00 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 14:40:01 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: that too 14:40:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 14:41:06 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (leaving) 14:41:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> insulfrog please dont idle on the company 14:41:29 <PublicServer> *** raWt joined the game 14:42:42 <PublicServer> *** raWt has left the game (connection lost) 14:43:47 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 14:43:47 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:48:45 <Ammler> is it nowadays possible to see from which grf a engine is? 14:50:28 <Chris_Booth> i dont think so 14:50:42 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 14:50:43 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 14:51:12 *** raWt has left #openttdcoop 14:51:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 14:51:37 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:51:47 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 14:51:47 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 14:51:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 14:53:13 <Chris_Booth> are you asking me? 14:56:16 *** PeterT has quit IRC 15:02:55 <Ammler> mäh ttdpatch doesn't work anymore 15:04:22 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 15:04:22 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 15:04:27 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 15:04:28 <PeterT> !password 15:04:28 <PublicServer> PeterT: crotch 15:04:37 <PeterT> lol @ the password 15:04:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:04:58 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 15:05:00 <insulfrog> lol 15:05:31 <PublicServer> <Peter> yeah! go combuster! 15:07:57 *** PeterT has quit IRC 15:08:00 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 15:08:00 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:09:13 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog has left the game (leaving) 15:09:15 *** insulfrog has left #openttdcoop 15:09:17 *** Nickman_87 has quit IRC 15:19:21 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:19:26 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Progman 15:24:24 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 15:24:29 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Fuco 15:40:32 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 15:45:49 *** Nebri has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:54 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Nebri 15:59:34 <PublicServer> *** highpinger has left the game (leaving) 16:11:07 *** Skasi has joined #openttdcoop 16:11:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Skasi 16:11:52 <Skasi> !password 16:11:52 <PublicServer> Skasi: termly 16:12:22 <PublicServer> *** Skasi joined the game 16:22:58 *** Elton02253 has joined #openttdcoop 16:23:03 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Elton02253 16:26:48 <PublicServer> *** Skasi has left the game (leaving) 16:29:11 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 16:41:00 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:41:05 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth_ 16:42:26 <Thraxian|Work> wb CB 16:45:15 <Xaroth> C_B_ 16:45:52 <Thraxian|Work> yeah, my mistake :) 16:46:07 <KenjiE20> both of them are /away anyway 16:46:08 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 16:46:10 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 16:46:39 <Thraxian|Work> I don't even know how to tell.... 16:47:02 <KenjiE20> /whois 16:47:10 <KenjiE20> some clients also mark the nick 16:47:52 <Thraxian|Work> I really should learn more about IRC ...it's not as popular here in the states as it is elsewhere 16:49:27 *** neuroticus has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v neuroticus 16:49:37 <neuroticus> !password 16:49:37 <PublicServer> neuroticus: bobcat 16:50:16 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus joined the game 16:50:36 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hey all @IRC 16:50:40 * KenjiE20 wonders what the relative usage per head of IRC would be per country 16:50:56 <Thraxian|Work> hey Neuroticus 16:52:19 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> voted (had a good look last night :)) 16:52:31 <Thraxian|Work> this map is pretty cool - I hope we get to play it before all the industries close :) 16:52:37 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh same lol 16:52:45 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> when will the voting end? 16:52:50 <Thraxian|Work> I don't like the cargo limits in Combuster's plan, though :( 16:53:13 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> why so 16:53:21 <Xaroth> Thraxian|Work: it's quite popular in the states 16:53:30 <Xaroth> but IRC in general is more for the oldskool people 16:53:37 <Xaroth> nowadays most people hang out on msn or skype 16:53:41 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed 16:53:44 <Thraxian|Work> Neuroticus: I'm more of the "connect-it-all" mentality :) 16:54:05 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> most people on IRC have a good computer/technical relation eg gaming, programming etc 16:54:11 <Thraxian|Work> Xaroth: perhaps - I'm in my 30s, and still enjoy MUDding, but never really got latched on IRC, and don't know anybody who is 16:54:19 <Xaroth> heh 16:54:26 <Thraxian|Work> and I work in programming too :) 16:54:34 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and me 16:54:43 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and used to be a bit of a gamer 16:54:51 <Xaroth> I game and program 16:55:00 <Xaroth> i'm ... on 4 networks, one of which is my own server at home 16:55:00 <Thraxian|Work> define:game 16:55:01 <KenjiE20> mudddddddddding 16:55:05 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> used to have 2 channels: #myclanschannel + #php (on quakenet) 16:55:10 <Xaroth> used to be at 6 networks 16:55:24 * KenjiE20 has 7 nets and about 20 channels 16:55:25 <Thraxian|Work> this is the only IRC I really use...most other communities use forums + voicechat 16:55:35 <Thraxian|Work> er..most of the other communities I'm in, that is 16:55:42 * Xaroth is on ventrilo almost 24/7 16:55:48 <Xaroth> (and skype) 16:56:14 <Thraxian|Work> I use Vent for my GW clan, but still have TS for this group (if it's even used) 16:56:35 <Thraxian|Work> unfortunately, neither is available when Thraxian is Thraxian|Work 16:56:42 <Xaroth> heh 16:56:49 <Xaroth> I use TS for EVE from time to time 16:56:56 <KenjiE20> EVE \o/ 16:56:59 <Xaroth> yep 16:57:02 <KenjiE20> not eve voice? 16:57:02 <Thraxian|Work> I think the boss would frown if I had my headset on and was talking to myself all day :) 16:57:14 <Xaroth> KenjiE20: depends on situation 16:57:19 <KenjiE20> fair enough 16:57:39 <Thraxian|Work> I used to use TS for BF2, but my system can't run it very well 16:58:01 <Thraxian|Work> looking to upgrade the system soon, so might bring BF2 back, or maybe COD4 16:58:42 <neuroticus> when does the voting end? 16:58:45 <neuroticus> and BF2 what a game 16:58:49 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 16:58:50 <neuroticus> might have to reinstall 16:58:54 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 16:59:19 <Thraxian|Work> I was never very good at it - things run slow here (both PC and network) so my shots miss 99% of the time 16:59:26 <Thraxian|Work> but I'm a decent medic/engineer 16:59:35 * KenjiE20 loves medic 16:59:51 <KenjiE20> but I've been playing assault lately, trying to up a badge 17:00:06 <KenjiE20> http://bf2s.com/player/9567585/ 17:00:07 <Webster> Title: KenjiE20 Gunnery Sergeant Stats, BF2S.com (at bf2s.com) 17:00:17 <Thraxian|Work> got up to Staff Sergeant, need 46 points for Gunnery 17:00:40 <KenjiE20> my pings too high to play consistently 17:00:54 <KenjiE20> I have to find the good and lenient servers 17:01:09 <neuroticus> I see 17:01:10 <KenjiE20> the ones that don't go "OMGWTFBBQ!!! 100+ ping" 17:01:56 <KenjiE20> I still have no idea how I've managed NOT to get a purple heart yet 17:02:08 <Thraxian|Work> yeah, was trying to figure that one out too 17:02:19 <Thraxian|Work> my favorite games were the knives and paddles 17:02:24 <Thraxian|Work> but I hear those are kinda taboo now 17:02:25 <KenjiE20> chalk it up to luck I guess 17:02:28 <neuroticus> the old 4:20 kd ratio or something? 17:02:35 <KenjiE20> 1:4 yea 17:02:46 <neuroticus> 1:4 but require 20 deaths or something :p 17:03:09 <KenjiE20> that's the one 17:03:39 <neuroticus> dont think i have it 17:03:40 <KenjiE20> I think I either play awful and died a ton, but get like 2 kills 17:03:41 <ODM> ohno BF2 17:03:48 <KenjiE20> or I play well and die <10 17:04:06 <Thraxian|Work> once I get my system upgrade, we should totally get #bf2coop happening :) 17:04:27 <Chris_Booth> bf2? 17:04:28 <KenjiE20> I might play some tonight after EVE 17:04:35 <Thraxian|Work> Battlefield 2 17:04:45 <Chris_Booth> sounds old 17:04:49 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol 17:04:52 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> not too old 17:04:55 <Thraxian|Work> it was huge before COD4 came out 17:04:58 <ODM> didnt bf2 die 2 years ago? 17:05:08 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> nah its still good 17:05:16 <KenjiE20> still more popular than 2142 17:05:20 <KenjiE20> afaict 17:05:20 <neuroticus> plent of people still play 17:05:28 <ODM> thats kinda because 2142 was made of poo 17:05:32 <neuroticus> bf2142? didnt really take off that well did it? 17:05:33 <KenjiE20> lol yes 17:05:47 <KenjiE20> ingame ads that stole cookies kinda killed it 17:05:55 <neuroticus> i didnt like it 17:06:01 <Thraxian|Work> I played on one server for a long time, but the pilots got too good, and would kill you before you took 3 steps outside of the base 17:06:10 <neuroticus> its like cs:s after playing cs1.6 17:06:21 <KenjiE20> hah, I hate that about bf 17:06:27 <KenjiE20> personalised airstikes... 17:06:30 <KenjiE20> strikes* 17:06:43 <neuroticus> baserape on boat! 17:06:50 <neuroticus> cruiser? i dunno what its called 17:06:57 <KenjiE20> carrier 17:07:04 <neuroticus> thats the one 17:07:04 <Chris_Booth> i am still a COD fan 17:07:14 <Chris_Booth> but i am sure i could give BF2 a go 17:07:19 <neuroticus> COD4 on xbox360, only one i can enjoy 17:07:32 <neuroticus> u would liuke BF2 im sure :) 17:07:34 <KenjiE20> never played cod4mp 17:07:48 <Chris_Booth> cod 5 MP rules 17:08:14 <Mark> nothing beats wolfenstein: et though 17:09:08 <KenjiE20> Sniper Elite mp is good fun at a LAN 17:09:19 <KenjiE20> where you can yell at each others jammy flukes 17:09:30 <Chris_Booth> age of empiers 3 is always good fun 17:09:45 <Mark> playingg hide and seek in wolfenstein 17:09:46 <Mark> awesome 17:10:12 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:48 <hylje> worms armageddon 17:11:49 *** insulfrog has joined #openttdcoop 17:11:51 <hylje> fuck your preferences 17:11:54 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v insulfrog 17:12:05 <insulfrog> !password 17:12:05 <PublicServer> insulfrog: toffee 17:12:29 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 17:12:30 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog joined the game 17:13:00 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yo insul 17:13:05 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi all 17:14:53 *** Elton02253 has quit IRC 17:15:30 <Mark> !password 17:15:30 <PublicServer> Mark: toffee 17:15:51 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 17:18:01 <insulfrog> I wonder why 'Chaos/B2B' games are banned but yet according to the openttdcoop wiki, they are still viable gametypes, unless the openttdcoop wiki needs to be updated to reflect this decission to ban the 'Chaos and B2B' gametypes? 17:18:08 *** Condac has joined #openttdcoop 17:18:13 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Condac 17:18:44 <Thraxian|Work> pure chaos is not cooperative - so it's a viable gametype, just not within the scope of a cooperative community 17:18:55 <KenjiE20> or at least this server 17:19:10 <Chris_Booth> no 17:19:11 <Xaroth> B2B? 17:19:22 <Chris_Booth> what we called chaos on pro zone isnt chaos 17:19:23 <Thraxian|Work> limited chaos is possible - for instance, using a shared infrastructure, it is possible to have regions that are built in chaos-style, but they are separate from the rest of the network 17:19:31 <Chris_Booth> as we talk and plan 17:19:33 <Thraxian|Work> there was a ECS game a while back kinda like that 17:19:40 <Chris_Booth> PSG 135 17:19:44 <Chris_Booth> it got lost 17:19:53 <Mark> that was pure chaos 17:19:55 <Mark> and damn ugly 17:19:58 <insulfrog> B2B = Back to Basics Xaroth 17:20:01 <Chris_Booth> that only worked as it a small map 17:20:12 <Xaroth> define back to basics :P 17:20:29 <Chris_Booth> how you played when you first pick ttd up 17:20:35 <hylje> B2B = lol random 17:20:45 <Xaroth> hm 17:20:51 <Xaroth> too long ago 17:20:56 <insulfrog> ya know, your regular gameplay as you would play a single player game of OTTD 17:20:57 <^Spike^> the normal signals only game... 17:20:59 <Xaroth> but I think I interconnected stations in one HUGE line 17:21:09 <Xaroth> didn't work that well tho 17:21:26 <Xaroth> [+insulfrog]: ya know, your regular gameplay as you would play a single player game of OTTD << I use a LOT of the things I've seen/learned in ottdc in my singleplayer games. 17:21:38 <insulfrog> lol 17:22:02 <Xaroth> s'true 17:22:31 <Mark> the problem with chaos is new people dont know where to stop 17:22:33 <Mark> no offense 17:22:52 <Xaroth> none taken :P 17:22:59 <insulfrog> thats 'chaos for ya :p 17:23:13 <Xaroth> that won't work 17:23:30 <insulfrog> no foolin' :p 17:23:49 <Chris_Booth> not just that you never get nice hubs 17:24:00 <Chris_Booth> just massive messes with missing lines 17:24:04 <Chris_Booth> and jams everywhere 17:24:20 <hylje> chaos hubs are awesome 17:25:08 <Thraxian|Work> they're not just awe-SOME, they're awe-FULL 17:25:50 <Xaroth> they are also full of shit 17:25:58 <Xaroth> ... too often literally 17:26:02 <Chris_Booth> no need to swear 17:26:09 <Xaroth> I aint swearing 17:26:18 <Chris_Booth> [18:25] <Xaroth> they are also full of shit 17:26:25 <Xaroth> that aint swearing 17:26:26 <Chris_Booth> i think that is swearing now 17:26:44 <Chris_Booth> [18:25] <Xaroth> they are also full of shit <what is shit if it isnt swearing? 17:26:51 <Thraxian|Work> Xaroth: only when you have a brewery, food plant, or tinning factory in the middle 17:26:59 <Thraxian|Work> (they produce fertilizer!) 17:27:06 <Mark> Chris_Booth: digested food 17:27:22 <Xaroth> As a noun it refers to fecal matter (excrement) and as a verb it means to defecate or defecate in; in the plural ("the shits") it means diarrhea. Shite is also a common variant in parts of the British Isles. 17:27:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> let's build comebuster's 17:27:27 <Chris_Booth> no the excretion 17:27:44 <insulfrog> in back to basics and chaos games, at least you can try out certain hub designs to put onto the openttdcoop junctionary and the stationary, especially in one of the games, someone did a 5 way BBH 17:28:07 <Thraxian|Work> with Combuster's plan, can we ONLY connect 20 pumps+10 forests+10 farms per side? 17:28:13 <Mark> that's plenty 17:28:21 <Thraxian|Work> but it's not as much fun :( 17:28:39 <Mark> it's more than you'd think 17:28:51 <Mark> makes 160 raw industries in total 17:28:57 <Mark> thats more than your average game 17:29:04 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (connection lost) 17:29:13 <Thraxian|Work> per side...only 80 industries 17:29:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> i thought he meant one side east of the plant, on side west 17:29:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> but even 80 is a lot 17:29:51 <Thraxian|Work> north of Ulaan is an "oasis" with 9 farms and 7-8 forests almost within walking distance 17:30:06 <Mark> it's not like we move all cargo from industries in the late game 17:30:09 <Mark> perhaps we can now 17:30:29 <Mark> i kinda like limiting it 17:30:33 *** neuroticus has quit IRC 17:30:35 <Chris_Booth> mark it depends how long the game lasts 17:30:38 <Thraxian|Work> and southwest of Braunschweig is another with 12 farms and 10 forests 17:30:44 <Mark> prevents the game from failing the same way as the last one 17:30:45 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus has left the game (connection lost) 17:30:52 <Mark> or any other pax&cargo game for that matter 17:31:09 <Thraxian|Work> those two areas alone take care of all food production for the entire map? 17:31:22 <Mark> yes? 17:31:44 <Thraxian|Work> so this game will focus almost exclusively on 4 city sbahns 17:32:08 <Mark> the goal is "to grow towns" 17:32:09 <Chris_Booth> sbahs and boring and rubish 17:32:10 <Thraxian|Work> and with our community, people tend to want to run a city on their own 17:32:20 <Thraxian|Work> so we have 4 builders after the food and water supply lines are made 17:32:39 <Chris_Booth> and lost of repetative building 17:32:41 <hylje> time to reinvent sbahn 17:33:47 *** highpinger has quit IRC 17:34:15 <Chris_Booth> !password 17:34:15 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: snider 17:35:03 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:36:42 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 17:44:02 *** Elton03004 has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:07 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Elton03004 17:44:24 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:24 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 17:44:29 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 17:44:46 <PeterT> !password 17:44:47 <PublicServer> PeterT: homage 17:44:58 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 17:45:02 <Thraxian|Work> why does Webster keep saying that? 17:45:22 <PeterT> because planetmaker set it so webster says that 17:45:54 <LordAzamath> yeh, blame planetmaker 17:46:08 <LordAzamath> holla btw 17:46:11 <PeterT> well, he set it didnt he? 17:46:22 <LordAzamath> set what 17:46:23 <LordAzamath> :D 17:46:31 <hylje> !password 17:46:31 <PublicServer> hylje: homage 17:46:40 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 17:46:58 <Mark> blame KenjiE20 :P 17:47:00 <PublicServer> <hylje> SOOOO FLAT 17:47:09 <PublicServer> <Peter> SOOOO what 17:47:16 <PublicServer> <Peter> mark, ok 17:47:18 <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks kenji! 17:47:38 <PeterT> where are you from KenjiE20 17:49:05 <Chris_Booth> if you want to know where Kenji20 is from do a whis 17:49:10 <Chris_Booth> if you want to know where Kenji20 is from do a whois 17:49:43 <LordAzamath> if you want to know where planetbaker is from ask Chris_Booth :D 17:50:07 <Chris_Booth> i know of no planetbaker 17:50:20 <LordAzamath> planetbiker then 17:50:24 <LordAzamath> :D 17:50:46 *** raWt has joined #openttdcoop 17:50:51 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v raWt 17:51:01 <Chris_Booth> still doesnt ring any bells 17:51:11 <LordAzamath> planetmaker ;) 17:51:25 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 17:51:26 <Chris_Booth> i still dont know a planetmaker 17:51:30 <LordAzamath> without highlighting him hundred times a minute 17:51:30 <Chris_Booth> apart from god 17:51:48 <LordAzamath> dp a whois on god :D 17:51:48 <PeterT> use pm 17:51:50 <LordAzamath> do* 17:51:58 <PeterT> [God] End of WHOIS list. 17:52:15 <planetmaker> ... 17:52:25 <LordAzamath> !password 17:52:25 <PublicServer> LordAzamath: tidier 17:52:27 <Chris_Booth> evening PM 17:52:29 <LordAzamath> hai planetmaker 17:52:32 <planetmaker> salut all 17:52:32 <Chris_Booth> i was refering to you as god 17:52:39 <PublicServer> *** LordAzamath joined the game 17:53:04 <planetmaker> saw that. I require, of course, sacrifice to put me in a good mood. A goat a month will do 17:53:27 <Chris_Booth> i dont have a goat 17:53:36 <Chris_Booth> how about a small fluffy dog? 17:53:57 * Thraxian|Work wonders what pm plans to do with that goat 17:54:12 <Mark> goats are pretty good for eating 17:54:14 * Thraxian|Work decides he'd rather not know.... 17:54:16 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> rape probably 17:54:24 <Chris_Booth> add it to his ever growing goat collection 17:55:10 <PublicServer> <hylje> plan added 17:55:11 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> btw, when will the voting end? 17:55:14 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> oh 17:55:15 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> :D 17:55:44 <Chris_Booth> erm it kinda almost had 17:55:51 <Chris_Booth> as combuster seems to be the winner 17:56:10 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> then there needs to be a WINNER sign :P 17:56:35 <Chris_Booth> well he may not be the winner 17:56:45 <Chris_Booth> now there is a new plan 17:56:51 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hylje: P2P? 17:56:51 <Chris_Booth> people may chage there minds 17:56:53 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has changed his/her name to WINNER 17:56:54 <PublicServer> <hylje> point to point 17:56:57 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ah 17:57:02 <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> well thats why I asked when will the voting end 17:57:02 <planetmaker> tsk... goats are tasty. 17:57:05 <PublicServer> <WINNER> can I vote? 17:57:16 <planetmaker> and... "koscher". Too lazy to look up in a dictionary 17:57:18 <Chris_Booth> lol under my plan yes 17:57:25 <planetmaker> (if killed properly) 17:57:42 <Chris_Booth> tofu is kascher 17:57:45 <PublicServer> *** WINNER has changed his/her name to Thraxian|Work 17:57:55 <Thraxian|Work> anyone ever watch Foamy the Squirrel? 17:58:00 <Thraxian|Work> Kosher Crackers :) 17:59:26 <Barbaar> !password 17:59:26 <PublicServer> Barbaar: tidier 17:59:36 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 18:10:18 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 18:13:34 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (connection lost) 18:13:47 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> Mark, when would you like voting to end? 18:15:57 *** Elton03004 has quit IRC 18:27:48 <PublicServer> *** LordAzamath has left the game (leaving) 18:28:23 <Xaroth> FOAMY! 18:33:48 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 18:34:08 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (connection lost) 18:37:28 <Ammler> LordAzamath: still no coding envirnonment? 18:38:16 <LordAzamath> umm 18:38:19 <LordAzamath> I have 18:38:22 <LordAzamath> :D 18:38:54 <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters? 18:39:22 <LordAzamath> or why 18:43:40 <PublicServer> *** raWt joined the game 18:44:33 <PublicServer> *** raWt has left the game (connection lost) 18:45:29 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:45:34 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin 18:45:51 <raWt> :/ 18:45:54 <raWt> unstable connection 18:53:23 *** Root49 has quit IRC 18:54:01 <Xaroth> KenjiE20 18:54:09 <Xaroth> http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3274 18:54:13 <Webster> Title: EVE Online | EVE Insider (at www.eveonline.com) 18:55:40 <KenjiE20> I had heard about that, but jeez 18:55:42 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 18:55:47 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Wurzel49 18:56:06 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 18:56:10 <Xaroth> same TornSoul I was on about the other day :P 19:05:10 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 19:10:25 <Fuco> !dl win32 19:10:25 <PublicServer> Fuco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17134/openttd-trunk-r17134-windows-win32.zip 19:10:27 <Chris_Booth> !password 19:10:27 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: toying 19:11:16 <Fuco> !password 19:11:16 <PublicServer> Fuco: toying 19:11:47 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo joined the game 19:11:49 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:12:14 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 19:12:19 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Phoenix_the_II 19:13:48 *** PhoenixII has quit IRC 19:15:32 <XeryusTC> !dl win64 19:15:32 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17134/openttd-trunk-r17134-windows-win64.zip 19:16:15 <XeryusTC> !password 19:16:15 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: toying 19:16:24 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 19:16:28 <Ammler> XeryusTC: now decides which plan we build 19:16:36 <Ammler> then we can start :-) 19:16:38 <XeryusTC> i do? 19:16:52 <Ammler> well, you need to check the voting board :P 19:17:03 <XeryusTC> yes, that seems to have a clear winner 19:17:29 <Ammler> [20:39] <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters? <-- would you? 19:17:30 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 19:17:30 *** raWt has left #openttdcoop 19:17:39 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 19:17:40 <Mark> combuster wins 19:17:42 <Mark> obviously 19:17:52 <Mark> we'll just have to wait :P 19:19:12 <Ammler> wait for? 19:19:21 <XeryusTC> someone starts building on it 19:19:35 <Ammler> but combuster voted for an other plan, didn't he? 19:19:42 <Ammler> so his plan is invalid 19:20:02 <XeryusTC> you can vote for someone elses plan 19:20:04 <XeryusTC> just not for your own 19:20:30 <Ammler> but then you say something like: I made a plan but don't like it, please don't use it. 19:20:52 <XeryusTC> so you want everyone to vote for their own plan? 19:20:55 <XeryusTC> like we had in the past 19:20:59 <Ammler> why do you take effort to plan something but then vote for something else? 19:21:05 <XeryusTC> and everyone just voted for his own plan so every plan got exactly 1 vote :P 19:21:09 <tussengas> because it is not about winning? 19:21:32 <Ammler> tussengas: but it is about seriousity 19:21:34 <Ammler> :-) 19:21:45 <tussengas> well... exactly 19:21:55 <XeryusTC> Ammler: well, i dont see the problem 19:22:00 <tussengas> he respects others and votes for the 2nd best plan 19:22:15 <KenjiE20> that effectively gives him two votes 19:22:20 <Mark> why would you do that 19:22:26 <Mark> just dont vote at all if you have a plan 19:22:48 <Ammler> hmm, no he votes for the best plan and makes his plan at least 2nd 19:22:49 <Mark> shows little confidence in your plan to vote for someone else 19:23:50 <tussengas> !password 19:23:50 <PublicServer> tussengas: bumped 19:23:56 <Ammler> but it is allowed to vote for the own plan? 19:23:57 <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game 19:24:30 <Ammler> we had some time, there it wasn't 19:24:36 <LordAzamath> Ammler idk 19:24:45 <LordAzamath> I just wondered what you wanted to know that for :P 19:24:51 <PublicServer> *** tussengas has left the game (leaving) 19:24:54 <Ammler> idk? 19:24:57 <LordAzamath> i don't know 19:25:05 <Ammler> you don't know "what"? 19:25:14 <LordAzamath> [22:17] <Ammler> [20:39] <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters? <-- would you? 19:25:24 <Ammler> how can you not know that? 19:25:29 <LordAzamath> well 19:25:32 <Ammler> :-D 19:25:41 <Thraxian|Work> I always assumed it was bad form to vote for your own plan, so I always voted for another's 19:25:46 <LordAzamath> if nobody else will do it in a certain period of time, I'll consider it ;) 19:26:11 <LordAzamath> Thraxian|Work but that doesn't stop you creating signs with other peoples names :D 19:26:25 <Ammler> nah 19:26:27 <Thraxian|Work> ok - I did that once, and they were ridiculous names so it was obvious 19:26:46 <LordAzamath> lol you actually have done it :D 19:27:07 <Thraxian|Work> yeah - I think I did it as a joke 19:27:25 <Ammler> Thraxian|Work and Thraxian|Home 19:27:31 <Thraxian|Work> somebody posted "Station by so-and-so", somebody else posted "Eyecandy by so-and-so-else" 19:27:45 <Ammler> and LittleThraxian 19:27:57 <Thraxian|Work> so I did some more...."terrain by...", "concept by...", and "everything else...Mastercard" 19:28:08 <Thraxian|Work> again - fairly obvious :) 19:28:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> we could make the mainlines and BBHs 19:28:18 <Thraxian|Work> but I don't recall ever screwing around with the voting board 19:28:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> not much we can screw up there 19:28:39 <Thraxian|Work> mainlines and BBHs for what plan? 19:28:43 <Thraxian|Work> combusters? 19:28:46 <Ammler> it [plan]buster that complicated? 19:28:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> combuster's of course 19:28:53 <Ammler> is* 19:31:35 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> for western, why not move it more west near the south 19:31:45 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined company #1 19:32:03 <Ammler> mäh 19:32:06 <Ammler> no station gui 19:32:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> because im trying to follow the plan 19:32:22 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> does plan specifically put line a certain distance from edge? 19:32:39 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> yes 19:32:44 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> its on 3/16 19:32:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno i just put it somewhere 19:32:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> feel free to move it 19:32:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> for whatever purpose 19:33:33 *** neuroticus has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:38 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v neuroticus 19:33:47 <neuroticus> !password 19:33:47 <PublicServer> neuroticus: bumped 19:34:30 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 19:34:39 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus joined the game 19:34:45 *** LordAzamath has quit IRC 19:34:54 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> combusters plan underway then? 19:35:37 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> heloo? 19:35:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> i thought that was retorical 19:36:00 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> stage: planning 19:36:07 <Mark> @stage Planning 19:36:07 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #154 (r17134) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org or www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch | Use !help for IRC-commands | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Get a userpage if you don't have one yet | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 19:36:08 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 19:36:10 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> but i can see some tracks now :) 19:36:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 19:36:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 19:36:18 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is the LED counter related to the plan? 19:36:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> no 19:36:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :( 19:36:44 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-) 19:36:56 <PublicServer> <Mark> whats that block thing east of the ML? 19:37:08 <PublicServer> * SmatZ is trying to imagine chaos pax game with 4 towns :) 19:37:12 <Mark> @tunnels 12 19:37:12 <Webster> For trainlength 12: < 24 needs 2, 25 - 36 needs 3, 37 - 48 needs 4. 19:37:19 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what block thing east of the ML? 19:37:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> three gueses? 19:37:32 <PublicServer> <Mark> west* 19:37:43 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> a much simpler ML 19:37:50 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just a suggestion - remove it if you want 19:38:09 <Ammler> !gap 12 24 19:38:09 <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 24. 19:38:28 <Ammler> !gap 12 23 19:38:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 23. 19:38:33 *** Elton06963 has joined #openttdcoop 19:38:38 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Elton06963 19:38:44 <Ammler> !gap 12 22 19:38:44 <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 22. 19:39:21 <Mark> @tunnels is off 19:39:32 <Mark> uses the old formula 19:40:08 <Mark> !tunnels 12 20 19:40:08 <PublicServer> Mark: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 20. 19:40:15 <Mark> !tunnels 12 18 19:40:15 <PublicServer> Mark: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 18. 19:40:34 <Fuco> stage is building already? or you are just trying some layouts? 19:40:49 <Thraxian|Work> @stage Building 19:40:49 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #154 (r17134) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org or www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch | Use !help for IRC-commands | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Get a userpage if you don't have one yet | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 19:40:52 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> someone declared Combuster's plan winner 19:40:54 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so... 19:41:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I don't know who it was 19:41:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> me 19:41:32 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 19:41:37 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> someone explain that LED counter? does it do anything? 19:41:53 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> look at the display ;p 19:41:55 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> >2.5 mil isn't possible, is it? 19:42:00 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it counts from 1 to 8 19:42:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> sure it is 19:42:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> >5mil is also possible 19:42:11 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> or 9 19:42:15 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, theoretically, but which clients are able to? 19:42:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> i might be :P 19:43:01 <Mark> @cl 19:43:01 <Webster> Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed. 19:43:05 <Mark> !cl 19:43:05 <Fuco> neuroticus: ive made a similar counter, with a bit cleaner design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjQa70wwCc 19:43:06 <Webster> Title: YouTube - OpenTTD 7-segment LED counter (at www.youtube.com) 19:43:09 <Fuco> you can check it ouy 19:43:25 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I added "only connected pax counts" 19:43:29 <KenjiE20> on his plan: * Combuster hopes pm drops in sometime, see if he gets a joke 19:44:39 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> that LED is actually insane!!!! 19:45:07 <Ammler> !setdef 19:45:07 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 19:45:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:46:40 *** raWt has joined #openttdcoop 19:46:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v raWt 19:46:56 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined spectators 19:47:50 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 19:48:54 *** Elton06963 has quit IRC 19:50:16 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he the !reverse counter 19:50:29 <planetmaker> he... so I should go and see? :-) 19:50:35 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is mean 19:52:42 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hub needed somewhere? 19:53:36 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 4 lines looks like SML 19:54:49 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't you need goods for growing? 19:54:59 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> food and water 19:55:08 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes, that is required 19:55:19 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but doesn't goods push it? 19:55:28 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> im not sure but i think not at all 19:55:46 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus has joined spectators 19:56:05 <Thraxian|Work> http://wiki.openttd.org/Town_growth#Sub_Tropical 19:56:16 <Thraxian|Work> "Any town where the centre square is in the desert requires food and water to grow. Non-desert towns require neither food nor water." 19:56:16 <Thraxian|Work> "Towns require passenger transportation to grow, although they grow slowly without any help. Goods and food can increase the rate of growth where accepted, and water is necessary for desert towns." 19:56:33 <Thraxian|Work> first quote from SubTropical, 2nd from Temperate 19:57:00 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, that means, goods is needed, right? 19:57:11 <Thraxian|Work> no. it means goods can increase growth 19:57:26 <Thraxian|Work> but they are not required for growth 19:57:26 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes, that means in coop style, it is needed :P 19:57:39 <Thraxian|Work> not if it's not on the plan. 19:57:58 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> as I said multiple times, this plan is invalid :-P 19:58:07 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D 19:58:25 <Thraxian|Work> invalid or not, it was chosen. but don't worry - it will change. they always change. 19:58:41 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-) 19:58:47 <Thraxian|Work> :-( 19:59:01 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why sad? 19:59:26 <Thraxian|Work> I strongly dislike when a plan changes after being selected. 19:59:48 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, transform from invalid->valid isn't that bad, imo. 20:00:01 <Thraxian|Work> it's like a democracy where people vote on a new law, and once it passes, the government changes the law to mean something completely different, but since it's already passed, it needs no further approval 20:00:52 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> public players aren't aware of such details. 20:01:51 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and you need to discuss such changes, you can't do it alone. 20:02:04 <Thraxian|Work> you're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid 20:03:13 <Ammler> well, I don't care, if you prefer to play it without goods, do it. It was just my 2cents 20:03:19 <KenjiE20> actually 20:03:31 <Thraxian|Work> I'm not certain that I will play this round 20:03:37 <KenjiE20> I can't find a line in town_cmd.cpp that increases town growth on goods 20:12:24 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> so, if we're sticking to the plan ;P im gonna build one station 20:12:30 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> the one after BBH 4 i think 20:13:48 <Ammler> "Excessive water supply does not increase the rate of growth, unlike food. " <-- how much is excessive? 20:14:49 <Thraxian|Work> more than 1 unit? 20:14:54 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:15:00 <Thraxian|Work> "Any amount of water delivered to a town satisfies the need for water for that month." 20:15:13 <Thraxian|Work> so a truck that stops by once a month is sufficient :) 20:15:22 <Ammler> and food? 20:15:40 <Ammler> does it need more food for bigger towns? 20:15:50 <Seppel> !password 20:15:50 <PublicServer> Seppel: knifes 20:16:14 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 20:16:18 <Thraxian|Work> looks to be the same 20:16:30 <Thraxian|Work> if (GetTropicZone(t->xy) == TROPICZONE_DESERT && (t->act_food == 0 || t->act_water == 0) && t->population > 60) 20:16:30 <Thraxian|Work> return; 20:16:59 <Thraxian|Work> so if the population is over 60, and there is 0 food or water delivered, then growth is disabled that month? 20:17:31 <planetmaker> yes 20:17:59 <Thraxian|Work> hehe - so a single bread truck and a single water truck each month will support a city of any size - even a megalopolis 20:18:04 <planetmaker> it doesn't matter how much, but at least one / month and desert town. 20:18:10 <planetmaker> yup. 20:18:27 <Nebri> hey gang 20:18:32 <Thraxian|Work> Hey Nebri 20:18:36 <Nebri> oo building up are we? 20:18:38 <Nebri> !players 20:18:40 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 170 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:18:40 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 142 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:18:40 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 116 is Thraxian|Work, a spectator 20:18:40 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 177 (Orange) is Sepp, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:18:40 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 164 (Orange) is Fucoo, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:18:41 <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 171 is Neuroticus, a spectator 20:18:44 <Thraxian|Work> indeed 20:18:52 <Thraxian|Work> just started, so plenty to do :) 20:18:59 <Nebri> !password 20:18:59 <PublicServer> Nebri: knifes 20:19:03 <Thraxian|Work> come on in - the water's fine ....although scarce, this is a desert after all 20:19:10 <PublicServer> *** Nebri joined the game 20:19:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> question: is BBH01 to close to city? will city grow that far? 20:19:46 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 20:19:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just curious, before it gets too far underway 20:19:58 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> might do 20:20:24 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> anyway, we may need the room for the pax station 20:20:44 <PublicServer> <Nebri> pretty sweet, glad to see I'm right on time :) 20:20:54 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> i think you should move that hub a bit further 20:20:59 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> from the town 20:21:32 <Thraxian|Work> personally, I think both hubs should be off of the flat area around the town - you can back a station further away without too much trouble. A hub is a different story 20:21:52 <Thraxian|Work> but then, I thought the western ML was ugly, but I was wrong on that account 20:25:40 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I thought you guys started with crude money makers first :P 20:25:54 <PublicServer> <Nebri> not always true? 20:25:57 <Thraxian|Work> this time, we cheated a few million into the bank 20:26:18 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> tut tut tut, naughty :p 20:26:23 <Thraxian|Work> a pax MM would be impossible, since we only have small desert towns, and no coal in desert 20:27:00 <PublicServer> <Nebri> what about a water/oil MM? 20:27:14 <KenjiE20> that would skew the production 20:27:41 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> oil is normally good for MM in the desert theme but in this case, i think the moderators made an exception 20:28:05 <Thraxian|Work> good thing - no oil on this map either 20:28:17 <PublicServer> <Nebri> :D 20:29:56 <PublicServer> <Nebri> 12 TL!? really? 20:30:11 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it is for pax if you look at the plan 20:30:19 <Skasi> I say USE A TL OF 20! 20:30:25 <Skasi> I wanna see something special.. 20:30:40 <tussengas> tl 20...rofl :p 20:30:43 <PublicServer> <Nebri> ah yes I see :). 20:30:44 <Skasi> last time you didn't like my TL 1, 1.5, 2, so you gotta use a TL>20 this time! 20:31:07 <Thraxian|Work> I remember our TL64 MONSTER TRAIN we made a few games back 20:31:11 <Skasi> mixed TLs would be even better.. 20:31:12 <Thraxian|Work> that thing made millions 20:31:29 <PublicServer> <Nebri> LOL 20:31:39 <PublicServer> <Nebri> is that in the archives somewhere? 20:31:45 <Thraxian|Work> yeah, looking it up now 20:32:04 <KenjiE20> 147? 20:32:09 <KenjiE20> or 148 20:32:11 <KenjiE20> iirc 20:32:19 <Thraxian|Work> I was thinking maybe 148 20:32:25 <Thraxian|Work> if it was that recent 20:32:34 <KenjiE20> @psgsave 148 20:32:34 <Webster> PSG 148 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_141_-_150#gameid_148 20:32:37 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I would love to see a hub that could support a bunch of those 64 TL trains :P 20:32:47 <Thraxian|Work> nope 138 20:32:52 <Thraxian|Work> @psgsave 138 20:32:52 <Webster> PSG 138 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_138 20:32:57 <KenjiE20> yea 20:33:00 <Thraxian|Work> "From north to south straight through everything is the TL64 Beast maglev, making an almost impossible 15 million a year." 20:33:06 <KenjiE20> one digit off 20:33:14 <KenjiE20> that was my map :) 20:33:17 <Thraxian|Work> I thought 148 was too recent 20:33:17 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> for a TL that big, you need a huge map and a huge curve lengh 20:33:38 <Thraxian|Work> hehe - look at 140. the current PSG looks like a desert remix 20:33:50 <Thraxian|Work> "This game stated with 4 towns with 0 population. We had to generate city plans that included ICE lines and SBanh lines" 20:34:11 <Nebri> I gotta check that 64 TL 20:34:22 <Thraxian|Work> I remember it was 138 - my town (not city, but town) had the largest population 20:34:37 <PublicServer> *** Nebri has left the game (leaving) 20:34:58 <KenjiE20> that was our pet project one wasn't it 20:35:04 <Thraxian|Work> possibly... 20:35:24 <KenjiE20> sunken track and whatnot 20:35:27 <Thraxian|Work> it's the one where I first demo'd my inner-city bus service with one-way streets and queues 20:35:41 <Thraxian|Work> maybe I should do that on this map.... 20:35:59 <Thraxian|Work> although, I've been experiementing with ways to make the town grow faster and further 20:36:19 <Thraxian|Work> most of it involves tunneling, since a tunnel only counts as 1 road square, which elongates the city center 20:36:52 <Thraxian|Work> but I haven't worked on that in a while, and I still haven't found the ideal layout to encourage massive downtown growth 20:37:29 <Thraxian|Work> I tink the Slindston screenshot was taken early. I don't believe that I grew the largest city with only 7 bus stations. 20:38:34 <Nebri> !password 20:38:34 <PublicServer> Nebri: warren 20:38:40 <Thraxian|Work> hehe - if I did it in this game, I'd do it in Las Vegas. and the first thing I'd do is build the Luxor. 20:38:44 <PublicServer> *** Nebri joined the game 20:39:00 <Thraxian|Work> right in the middle of downtown...recreate the strip :) 20:39:03 <Nebri> yea the beast is awesome :D 20:39:49 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I don't think I'd want to be on a train with 15k passengers though :( 20:41:29 <Thraxian|Work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKOEQVgONh0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffailblog%2Eorg%2F2008%2F12%2F19%2Fall%2Daboard%2Dthe%2Dfail%2Dtrain%2F&feature=player_embedded 20:41:30 <Webster> Title: YouTube - All Aboard the Fail Train (at www.youtube.com) 20:41:36 <Thraxian|Work> sorry about the long URL 20:41:48 <Thraxian|Work> shorter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKOEQVgONh0 20:41:50 <Webster> Title: YouTube - All Aboard the Fail Train (at www.youtube.com) 20:42:02 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> this BBH is going to be HUGE 20:42:13 <PublicServer> <Nebri> yup 20:42:35 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (leaving) 20:42:48 <PublicServer> <Nebri> How in the hell are you keeping track of that insulfrog? 20:43:08 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> erm, I'm working on it as i go 20:43:33 <PublicServer> <Nebri> :D 20:43:37 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> all im doing is following the plan :D 20:43:58 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> how hard can this BBH be? 20:44:45 <Maza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OY0UkMmaI 20:44:46 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Cessna Boogie 2009 - FlyBy (at www.youtube.com) 20:45:50 <Maza> http://maza.kapsi.fi/roskis/cessnaboogie3.jpg 20:46:04 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, the plan didn't mention about how much terra you can do 20:46:07 <PublicServer> <Nebri> watching you make that hub is helping me out a lot so far :) 20:46:39 <PublicServer> <Nebri> especially now that I'm catching on to the way your building it 20:47:38 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the trick is to build 'split before join' and you should be ok 20:47:43 *** mixrin_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:48 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin_ 20:48:17 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I still don't understand why "split before you join" though :S 20:48:39 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it prevents lockups thorughout your network 20:48:51 <Thraxian|Work> ever driven through construction? 20:48:59 <Thraxian|Work> same idea.... 20:49:27 <PublicServer> <Nebri> ah okies :) 20:49:41 <Thraxian|Work> if you merge first, you have to wait for a gap to prevent ML slowdown. if you split first, you create gaps that merging trains can immediately use. 20:49:47 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> a 4 level stack interchange is better than a cloverleaf, since the 'split before join' helps to prevent accidents 20:50:36 *** raWt has left #openttdcoop 20:50:39 <PublicServer> <Nebri> kk, its finally snapped into place into my mind now :) 20:50:56 *** Taborda has joined #openttdcoop 20:51:01 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Taborda 20:51:02 <Taborda> !players 20:51:03 <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 142 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:51:03 <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 116 is Thraxian|Work, a spectator 20:51:03 <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 181 (Orange) is Nebri, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:51:03 <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 164 (Orange) is Fucoo, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.) 20:51:03 <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 171 is Neuroticus, a spectator 20:51:05 <hylje> let's imagine the capacity of a single rail is `k` 20:51:17 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (whew, thats a long diagonal) 20:51:34 <Taborda> !password 20:51:35 <PublicServer> Taborda: warren 20:51:39 <hylje> the "straight" track goes at capacity, half of it splits off in the junction 20:51:44 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 20:51:58 <hylje> if the join is before the split, there is a part of the track which goes over its capacity 20:53:07 <Taborda> !version 20:53:07 <PublicServer> Taborda: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M) 20:53:12 <Taborda> !revision 20:53:12 <PublicServer> Taborda: Game version is r17134 20:53:18 <hylje> in the coop reality mainline tracks that work at capacity happen often 20:53:21 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog has left the game (connection lost) 20:53:34 <hylje> so join before split is super bad 20:54:37 *** insulfrog_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:54:42 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v insulfrog_ 20:54:47 <PublicServer> <Nebri> kk 20:54:55 <insulfrog_> !password 20:54:55 <PublicServer> insulfrog_: hasted 20:55:29 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog joined the game 20:55:45 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> brb 20:57:14 <PublicServer> <Nebri> when you create these splits, you make the track a lil longer right? 20:57:49 <Taborda> !revision 20:57:49 <PublicServer> Taborda: Game version is r17134 20:57:52 <Taborda> !password 20:57:52 <PublicServer> Taborda: hasted 20:58:03 <hylje> the split is not the problem 20:58:10 <hylje> the joins are what cause problems 20:58:21 <PublicServer> *** Taborda joined the game 20:58:22 <hylje> fix the join, the split is so simple it can't go wrong 20:59:10 <Maza> I've messed up that split part a few times too, really 20:59:38 <PublicServer> <Nebri> yea waiting for a merge can be.. a while.. :P 20:59:45 *** insulfrog has quit IRC 21:00:04 <PublicServer> <Nebri> it'll most likely make more sense when I see the traffic grow 21:00:45 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> back 21:01:03 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I"ve learned lots in the last couple days though. 21:01:24 <PublicServer> <Nebri> redoing my own games with your building guidelines has sent my network capacities through the roof :D 21:03:55 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 21:04:49 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 21:05:43 <Ammler> tneo: worked? 21:05:53 <PublicServer> <tneo> yes thanks 21:06:11 <Ammler> well, I very much miss the station gui 21:06:13 <Xaroth> btw Nebri you got some spammers on yer site 21:06:22 <Xaroth> russian spammers to be exact 21:06:36 <PublicServer> <Nebri> yea I've noticed 21:07:13 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I'm quite new to running a website, started that more to help learn the trade then actual productivity 21:07:22 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I've been real lazy generating some new content for it 21:07:38 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 21:08:32 <PublicServer> <Nebri> sadly I have no idea how to stop them :( 21:08:50 <Xaroth> er 21:08:52 <Xaroth> CAPTCHA 21:09:01 <Ammler> Nebri: wordpress? 21:09:06 <PublicServer> <Nebri> drupal 21:09:16 <Ammler> oh, python :-) 21:09:17 <Xaroth> there's no visual confirmation on creating accounts 21:11:29 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, it looks like i'm building a good BBH here :) 21:11:30 <PublicServer> <Nebri> taking it offline for now 21:11:50 <PublicServer> *** Taborda has left the game (leaving) 21:13:57 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, now THATS what I call a HUB :p 21:14:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> CL12, right? 21:14:42 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> um, yeah 21:15:20 *** andy|p has joined #openttdcoop 21:15:25 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andy|p 21:17:36 <Thraxian|Work> !gap 12 19 21:17:37 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 19. 21:17:40 <Chris_Booth> !password 21:17:40 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cogent 21:17:41 <Thraxian|Work> !gap 12 18 21:17:41 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 18. 21:17:56 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:18:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> isnt BBH 01 over kill were it inst merged? 21:18:58 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> station too spread out :( 21:19:03 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> can you increase it? 21:19:44 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> i sorta pre-optimised it for speed 21:19:59 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its still a WIP though 21:22:42 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> now, for the station, which i think its going to be a nice challenge i think 21:24:18 *** Brianetta has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Brianetta 21:24:23 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Brianetta 21:24:32 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm... 21:24:47 <Barbaar> !password 21:24:47 <PublicServer> Barbaar: abacus 21:24:56 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 21:30:46 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm going to try and build a ro-ro at the NE town (Braunschweig) for the mainline services 21:31:07 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (ro-ro stations are better than terminus) 21:31:10 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> stations should be terminus 21:31:11 <planetmaker> yeay! 21:31:26 <planetmaker> though the station should be in the South 21:31:33 <PublicServer> <Nebri> stepping out for a bit gang. 21:31:38 <planetmaker> of that town :-P 21:31:57 <PublicServer> <Nebri> I'll participate quite actively once your mainlines and bbhs are down though :) 21:31:58 <PublicServer> <Nebri> laters 21:32:01 <PublicServer> *** Nebri has left the game (leaving) 21:34:55 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, should be suffice to buld the load balancing for the station 21:35:39 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> although the lpan didn't specify whether the station should be ro-ro or terminus 21:35:45 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> *plan 21:35:47 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it kinda does 21:35:54 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> imo 21:36:00 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 21:36:22 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Yexo 21:36:35 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> they say ro-ro is the best type since the leaving trains don't mess with the entering trains 21:43:01 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 21:47:28 <Sukasa> yeah 21:47:44 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm trying to plan ahead 21:47:52 <Sukasa> always a good thing 21:48:03 <Sukasa> I should probably come on later today 21:48:22 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> so i made a mini-plan for the NE city 21:50:14 *** Venxir has quit IRC 21:52:18 *** Thraxian|Work has left #openttdcoop 21:52:49 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> brb, just getting a drink 21:54:15 <neuroticus> hey guys 21:54:21 <neuroticus> back, time for some building? 21:54:29 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yo 21:54:41 <PublicServer> *** Neuroticus has joined company #1 21:55:34 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insulfrog 21:57:04 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> anyone on? 21:57:10 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yep, me 21:57:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> me too 21:57:36 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yoo, just wanted to ask why BBH01 is so massive and spread? 21:57:51 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thats probably my fault :p 21:58:04 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i like it :) 21:58:15 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> those curves looks kinda like a... funny 21:58:31 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its just pre-optimised for speed, as no debut, we will be using very fast trains 21:58:43 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol overies! 21:58:46 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i cant spell that 21:59:57 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> how is the BBH by ulaan going to work out? 22:00:10 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> BBH04 22:00:46 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> dunno, space is annoying there 22:00:49 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed 22:01:15 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> why is space anoying, its all around us 22:01:31 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> too much water 22:01:36 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> around there] 22:02:31 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i assume btw the only MLs up are the PAX? 22:02:46 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah 22:03:08 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and (sorry for so many questions) what is ICE 22:03:15 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> in car entertainment? 22:03:18 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> inter city 22:03:19 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> expres 22:03:25 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> frozen water 22:03:28 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ahhhh ok makes sence ta :) 22:03:29 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> :p 22:03:32 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :p 22:03:49 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it is isn't it :p 22:03:54 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> no 22:04:34 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> the plans are right in the way :( 22:05:43 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> check !damn so unlucky 22:05:57 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> 1 tile... 22:06:05 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it will die 22:06:07 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> in time 22:06:20 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> guess i'll work around it for now 22:06:42 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> production is 32/m till we start it will die 22:08:04 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> o wait, think i made a silly error 22:08:46 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> right im going to start on the last ML for the PAX running east-west 22:09:13 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> when no TF specified i should probably go on low mode right 22:11:47 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> TF=? 22:11:52 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> teraform 22:12:11 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh are we TFing much? 22:12:17 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, think low is standard 22:13:02 *** Skasi has quit IRC 22:13:58 *** ^Spike^ is now known as ^spike^ 22:14:08 *** OwenS has quit IRC 22:14:31 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 22:14:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 22:14:55 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, that should be enough lines for the station i think 22:15:14 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what do you rekon? 22:15:22 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (at NE) 22:15:41 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> probably :) 22:16:20 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> or do you think it should be bigger >:-D 22:16:27 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> CL for PAX? 22:16:55 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> 12, same as TL 22:17:03 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> i rekon 22:17:17 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (more than likely anyway) 22:19:47 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 22:20:01 *** Carstein has quit IRC 22:20:46 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has joined company #1 22:21:40 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> at least its TL/CL 5 for the freight 22:23:13 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 22:25:06 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> guys, see !check this ML and let me know if ok to lay tracks inside the box (width 15 as rest) 22:25:24 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> cant see a better way 22:25:50 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> fine with me, but i'm no expert in this :) 22:26:05 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insul.fucoo? 22:26:29 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> doesn't matter for me 22:26:35 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> as long as it works 22:27:03 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insul? 22:27:10 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> its good, it leaves plenty of space for those farms 22:27:13 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yes 22:27:27 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> all good then :) ill start laying 22:29:09 *** elmex has quit IRC 22:29:39 *** elmex has joined #openttdcoop 22:29:44 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v elmex 22:30:53 *** Yexo has quit IRC 22:32:06 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> aew we using tunnels? 22:32:41 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> dunnom i just used bridges 'cos its easier and very little terra is used 22:34:00 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> not sure how big the 'city ring' ment to be but I just guessed :p 22:35:31 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> planning as i go so that when I come to continue with it tomorrow, I know what i need to do :) 22:36:25 <tussengas> !password 22:36:25 <PublicServer> tussengas: gadget 22:36:38 <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game 22:37:28 <PublicServer> <tussengas> nice bridges :p 22:38:50 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol DIE 22:39:20 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> spliff is lit time to lay tracks :) 22:41:08 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> now I have an idea on what i need to do to Braunschweig 22:42:14 <PublicServer> <tussengas> there isn't much space there to expand the place 22:42:53 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there isnt, but there isn't much i can do 22:43:21 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> unless i rebuild the entire network in that corner 22:43:41 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> including the BBH01, which I want to avoid 22:43:59 <PublicServer> <tussengas> can understand that 22:44:21 <PublicServer> <tussengas> maybe you can make the local circle bigger? 22:44:33 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its already huge 22:45:26 *** Polygon has quit IRC 22:46:00 <Nebri> grawr 22:46:17 <Nebri> !password 22:46:17 <PublicServer> Nebri: senate 22:46:26 <PublicServer> *** Nebri joined the game 22:47:01 <PublicServer> <tussengas> do those bridges update when we get faster trains? 22:47:26 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> not automatically :( 22:47:27 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> nope, you will have to update the bridges yourselves 22:47:39 <PublicServer> <Nebri> arg :( 22:47:46 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm... i see like 200 bridges in bbh02 :p 22:47:57 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> same as bbh01 :p 22:48:06 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed :p 22:48:12 <PublicServer> <tussengas> why no tunnels/ 22:48:39 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> because they need terra to build 22:48:47 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:48:52 <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah... 0 terra on this one? 22:49:07 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> not 0 terra, just low terra 22:49:09 *** elmex has quit IRC 22:49:14 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i think terra is ok for making tunnels 22:49:22 <PublicServer> <tussengas> would think so 22:49:57 *** elmex has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:02 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v elmex 22:50:09 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> but feel free to make BBH03 or 4 with tunnels :) 22:50:21 <tussengas> :p 22:50:48 <tussengas> well, if you want i can replace the bridges with tunnels :p 22:51:10 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> will be a pain because of space issues i think 22:51:28 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> replacing bridges later will be faster i think 22:51:39 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> can be done quite fast with some hotkey spamming action 22:52:40 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, i see the problem 22:52:56 <PublicServer> <tussengas> 1 tunnel is not the problem... the problem is the tunnel next to the tunnel 22:53:00 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aye 22:53:48 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> well, i have to go. BBH02 should work, only signs missing 22:53:52 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya tomorrow 22:54:20 <PublicServer> <tussengas> cya 22:55:06 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what's the TL for feeders? 22:55:13 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 22:55:14 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> whatever you want 22:55:34 *** ^spike^ has quit IRC 22:55:47 <PublicServer> <tussengas> not mentioned in plan indeed 22:56:34 <PublicServer> *** Nebri has left the game (leaving) 22:56:41 *** Nebri has left #openttdcoop 22:57:43 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:00:49 <PublicServer> <tussengas> your freight out or freigth in has to move 1 tile to fit to L_L7R_R ;) 23:01:48 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the lines atm are just placeholders 23:02:13 <PublicServer> <tussengas> sorry for 'messing' up then 23:02:22 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> no probs 23:02:40 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its just so that i know where they're 'going' 23:02:49 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> just a side note, you know that towns need space 23:02:56 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> and that 700k town needs a lot of space 23:02:57 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I know 23:03:09 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> well you killed like half the town with roro... 23:03:12 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> and tl12 stations 23:03:49 <PublicServer> <tussengas> tl 12 station isnt that strange with tl 12 ? 23:05:57 <PublicServer> <tussengas> "can't build railway track here... ...already built" :p 23:09:55 <PublicServer> <tussengas> maybe you can use smaller tl's for the localline 23:10:28 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I think the 'ring' local line is TL 12 and others are smaller 23:11:29 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> you will have to ask Combuster about that 23:11:59 <PublicServer> <tussengas> true.. 23:12:11 <PublicServer> <tussengas> how many track for the W/F station did you have in mind? 23:12:45 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> dunno 23:12:48 <PublicServer> <tussengas> i would say we would need about 6-8 23:12:55 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> probably about 8 23:13:06 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> depends on traffic load 23:13:23 <PublicServer> <tussengas> we've to feed 700k people ;) 23:14:10 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> if freight rail traffic is going to be light, about 6 will do, if freight's going to be high, we need more than 8 23:14:57 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the reason why the main pax station is so big because I don't know how many trains will use it 23:14:58 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> god damn it some bastard hacked our website 23:14:59 <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw... can't we straight the line at the !here sign? so we have a bit more space for the water/food supply line? 23:15:10 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> why now when im playing 23:15:13 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> GREAT! 23:15:39 <PublicServer> <tussengas> www.openttdcoop.org? 23:15:52 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> MINE web 23:15:56 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> no ottd web :P 23:16:33 <tussengas> you said 'our' :p 23:16:39 <Fuco> well 23:16:51 <Fuco> i don't have much to do with ottd 23:17:09 <tussengas> i don't know that :p you're on this channel so i supposed ;) 23:18:10 <PublicServer> <tussengas> don't think 16 isnt to much if you have a supply of 4 from vegas and 4 from ulaan 23:19:30 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, with a CL of 12... does an S-turn also count? 23:20:07 *** Elton06533 has joined #openttdcoop 23:20:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Elton06533 23:20:42 <KenjiE20> @wiki max curve speed 23:20:46 <Webster> Max Curve Speed - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=max%20curve%20speed 23:20:47 *** mixrin_ has quit IRC 23:20:51 <KenjiE20> ^ tuss 23:21:04 <tussengas> a yes or no would have been enough ;) 23:21:21 <KenjiE20> well now you have reference 23:22:38 <tussengas> 2x 45 degrees in the same direction within the TL counts 23:28:43 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> OH NOES 23:28:50 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what? 23:29:08 <PublicServer> <tussengas> as far as i see he has 2 in and 3 out 23:29:13 <Ammler> 2 direction changes in train length counts 23:29:20 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> im getting there 23:30:28 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> thanks for numbering them up 23:30:30 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :) 23:30:36 <PublicServer> <tussengas> i got confused ;) 23:30:39 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> heh 23:30:47 <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw, your 4 needs 2 bridges? 23:31:42 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, I contributed alot here :) 23:31:46 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 23:31:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> evening 23:31:52 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> evening 23:32:30 <PublicServer> <insulfrog> right, I'm off to bed, night all :) 23:32:33 <PublicServer> *** insulfrog has left the game (leaving) 23:32:33 *** insulfrog_ has quit IRC 23:32:35 <PublicServer> <tussengas> gn 23:32:35 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nn 23:33:09 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hows that 23:33:22 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, we made bridges a bit high :p 23:33:22 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 23:33:26 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> peeps mind taking a look at BBH03 to check? 23:33:30 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh ill sort them :p 23:34:05 <PublicServer> <tussengas> the last one was fixed allready ;) 23:34:53 <PublicServer> <tussengas> you will need that bridge to end at +1 23:35:04 *** Taborda has quit IRC 23:35:06 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> the bridge for 3? 23:35:08 <PublicServer> <tussengas> y 23:35:12 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> trying 23:35:44 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm... 23:35:47 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :p 23:36:28 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 23:37:21 <PublicServer> <tussengas> that shouldnt be needed 23:37:33 <PublicServer> <tussengas> since you also made 8 bridges where you putted the numbers 23:37:39 *** Elton06533 has quit IRC 23:39:32 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> #therre? 23:39:49 <PublicServer> <tussengas> at least it works 23:40:02 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and not HUGE :p 23:40:43 <PublicServer> <tussengas> i think we have to make the right-side connection near the fruitplant 23:41:44 <PublicServer> <tussengas> *wonders what plan you have :P 23:41:57 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hehe 23:42:13 <PublicServer> <tussengas> why those squares? 23:42:24 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> planning 23:42:46 <PublicServer> <tussengas> don't get it yet :p 23:43:37 <PublicServer> <tussengas> lotsa terra :p 23:43:47 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> accidental really 23:44:09 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> plus terra needed for the bbhs :( 23:44:48 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ooh not ideal 23:44:57 <PublicServer> <tussengas> got to agree that you are the first who tries a bbh on the hill 23:45:09 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol 23:45:22 <PublicServer> <tussengas> why not connect the other part a bit more tothe otherside of the hill? 23:45:49 <PublicServer> <tussengas> so you can split up the 'B' side 23:46:03 <PublicServer> <tussengas> wich gives more space for bridges 23:47:20 <andy|p> !password 23:47:20 <PublicServer> andy|p: leaden 23:47:27 <PublicServer> <tussengas> i think i gonna give a shot @ BBH 04 23:47:35 <PublicServer> *** andyp joined the game 23:47:43 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> see now? 23:48:05 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm 23:48:46 <tussengas> !tunnel 10 12 23:48:47 <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 10 and gap 12. 23:48:51 <tussengas> !tunnel 12 10 23:48:51 <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 10. 23:49:05 <tussengas> hmm, a shorter tunnel wouldnt matter 23:50:35 <PublicServer> <tussengas> you made a bit to many tunnels? 23:50:42 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> why 23:50:58 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> 3/line 23:51:04 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> high traffic 23:51:07 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i guess long trains 23:51:12 <PublicServer> <tussengas> well, 23:51:15 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> but hey :) 23:51:15 <tussengas> !tunnel 12 10 23:51:15 <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 10. 23:51:19 <tussengas> :p 23:51:41 <PublicServer> <tussengas> but okey, i will connect them 3/line ;) 23:53:20 <PublicServer> <tussengas> crap... 23:53:28 <PublicServer> <tussengas> TL 12 :( 23:54:25 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 23:54:25 <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? 23:54:30 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 23:55:10 <PeterT> !help 23:55:10 <PublicServer> PeterT: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 23:55:33 <PeterT> @logs 23:55:33 <Webster> WIP logs; http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/logs/ now updating on the hour 23:57:08 <PublicServer> <tussengas> tl 12 and no terra would be impossible at that hill :p 23:57:14 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed 23:57:42 <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw, why you splitted them into 2 ? 23:57:55 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i havnt 23:58:02 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i just joined 3 to 1 in 2 stages 23:58:21 <PublicServer> <tussengas> ahh, there is 1 :p 23:58:26 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :) 23:58:33 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hard bit now 23:58:42 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> sigh 23:59:12 *** Brianetta has quit IRC 23:59:32 <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm 23:59:45 <PublicServer> <tussengas> if you put the other lines 2/3 tiles further 23:59:51 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh 23:59:57 <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> just measuring other side