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If you know what a "LART" is. 07:32:28 <V453000> :) 07:33:24 <Mazur> For those that don't: Luser Attitude Rectification Tool. Baseball bats are popular. 07:33:46 <V453000> @dict lart 07:33:47 <Webster> V453000: No definition for "lart" could be found in wn 07:33:48 <V453000> :p 07:33:50 <V453000> oh 07:34:10 <SmatZ> hello :) 07:34:21 <Yso> patchcablewhip is better 07:34:29 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 07:34:36 <Mazur> True. 07:34:44 <V453000> hi SmatZ :) 07:35:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 07:35:44 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:35:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:36:31 <SmatZ> hello V453000 :) 07:36:41 *** asnoehu is now known as tycoondemon 07:37:01 <tycoondemon> v our genious 07:38:49 <ODM> ellow 07:39:32 <V453000> wolle 07:39:49 <ODM> wolken! 07:39:54 <V453000> beer! 07:40:12 <ODM> this early?:O 07:40:48 <V453000> yarr 07:40:52 <V453000> good idea lets get some 07:41:00 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 07:41:13 <ODM> taht cant be goood:P 07:41:22 <V453000> that cant do anything bad 07:42:47 <ODM> i prefer orange juice:P 07:43:09 <Mazur> This early, with no hangover to cure, I prefer coffee. 07:43:27 <ODM> no coffee! 07:44:19 <V453000> hops juice ftw 07:45:13 <tycoondemon> christopher walken 07:46:38 <SmatZ> hello ODM 07:46:55 <tycoondemon> ODM = overdose master? 07:46:57 <ODM> SmatZ! 07:47:04 <ODM> heh thats a new one 07:47:09 <ODM> i overdose on orange juice 07:47:33 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 07:52:12 <Mazur> Put a shot of wodka in mine and and I'll join you. 07:52:43 <tycoondemon> i was thinking about an overdose on openttd :P 07:53:29 <ODM> im in rehab 07:53:50 <slaca> !help 07:53:50 <PublicServer> slaca: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 07:54:09 <tycoondemon> must be tough on you 07:54:16 <tycoondemon> hang in there man.... 07:54:18 <tycoondemon> :O 07:54:31 <slaca> !download 07:54:31 <PublicServer> slaca: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 07:54:53 <slaca> !download win64 07:54:53 <PublicServer> slaca: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20214/openttd-trunk-r20214-windows-win64.zip 07:55:25 <ODM> *hangs in* 07:56:15 <Mazur> OTTD rehab or alcohol rehab? 07:56:38 <ODM> fruit juice rehab! 07:56:44 <tycoondemon> !dl win6 07:56:44 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: unknown option "win6" 07:56:46 <tycoondemon> !dl win64 07:56:46 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20214/openttd-trunk-r20214-windows-win64.zip 07:57:07 <ODM> wow 6 bit:O 07:57:38 <slaca> :) 07:57:42 <slaca> !password 07:57:42 <PublicServer> slaca: pastas 07:57:53 <tycoondemon> yes 6 bit is da shit man 07:57:59 <tycoondemon> !password 07:57:59 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: pastas 07:58:00 <PublicServer> <Player> hi 07:58:33 <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon joined the game 07:58:39 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> boooom 08:01:10 <tycoondemon> planes stil land with incredible speed :S 08:01:54 <ODM> braking is for noobs 08:02:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> rawr 08:03:28 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> yes V indeed 08:03:31 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> like 08:03:32 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> 23213`132141234 08:03:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> yaa 08:03:39 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> yaknow ;) 08:03:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 08:04:16 <ODM> ya 08:05:34 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> I can't find the best plan 08:05:39 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> somebody do something1!! 08:06:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> need some convincing? :p 08:06:17 <ODM> something with a horse's head 08:06:45 <ODM> if you dont vote for V he'll drink all your beer 08:07:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> all your beer are belong to us? :D 08:07:24 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> not very convincing 08:07:47 <PublicServer> <Player> if you play single player game, do you play same as here? moneymaking, planning, building? 08:07:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> I do 08:07:58 <PublicServer> <Player> sry, i am beginner 08:08:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I have plan in my head 08:08:30 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> v is a genious, that said 08:08:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is up to you how do you play :) it is good to know, what About are you going to do ... but plans are mostly for coordinating people 08:08:40 <PublicServer> <Player> and do u use trains, when every line is finished? 08:08:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends 08:09:09 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> I play for perfection, wich is unreachable 08:09:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> mostly I play just "connect first mine", etc. ... B2B/Chaos style 08:09:15 <ODM> same 08:09:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimes (rare) I start with LL_RR 08:09:24 <^Spike^> !playerlist 08:09:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> coop style 08:09:31 <^Spike^> !players 08:09:33 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Client 76 (Orange) is Yso, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 08:09:33 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Client 84 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 08:09:33 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Client 86 is Player, a spectator 08:09:33 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Client 88 (Orange) is tycoondemon, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 08:09:33 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 08:09:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did that ~three times 08:09:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> once didnt finish :) 08:09:56 <PublicServer> <Player> :) 08:10:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> it can get too boring if you build network for 2 days and have nothing but 3 planes 08:10:24 <planetmaker> Player, please change your ingame nick 08:10:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just love it to see how L_R becomes 9x L_R 08:10:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> etc 08:11:01 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 08:11:29 <PublicServer> <Player> ok, and why is the braningville forest station so close, where nothing is 08:11:34 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> liking groth is a natural tendency among humans 08:12:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> Player: type "name <your nickname>" in the console please 08:12:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> console is opened by the key to the left to 1 08:12:37 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to slaca 08:12:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :) 08:12:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx 08:13:07 <planetmaker> thx 08:13:14 <tycoondemon> tnx 08:13:26 <PublicServer> <slaca> wellcome 08:13:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr 08:14:44 <PublicServer> <slaca> hey, something wrong with the bridge in Setchester :) 08:15:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 08:15:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> these two newgrfs dont go very well together 08:15:33 <PublicServer> <slaca> it s cool 08:15:38 <PublicServer> <slaca> now 08:16:23 <tycoondemon> i c bridges apearing1!!! :AS 08:16:37 <ODM> you need rehab 08:17:21 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> maybe 08:18:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> demons dont rehab 08:18:58 <PublicServer> <slaca> i really don't understand why Braningville Forest so far from the airport :S 08:19:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> to get more cash 08:19:36 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 08:19:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> when vehicles transport, it doesnt depend on the destinations in tiles of travel 08:19:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it depends on distances between station signs 08:19:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> that way we get more 08:20:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> while planes travel only ... like 70% distance 08:20:10 <PublicServer> <slaca> ok, i get it, thx 08:20:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw :) 08:20:42 <PublicServer> <slaca> but that's almost cheating :) 08:20:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends what you call cheating 08:21:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you take your main goal to make money in OpenTTD, then it is cheat indeed 08:21:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> if your goal is the building, then it is just supportive material :p 08:21:39 <PublicServer> <slaca> :) 08:22:23 <PublicServer> <slaca> I don't care about money, i just like watching the trains and eyecandy things 08:23:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 08:23:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> I only cared about money when I played with double headed TL3 without goods and inflation :D 08:23:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> barely survived 08:24:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> *and with inflation 08:24:27 <PublicServer> <slaca> what is TL3? :S 08:24:35 <V453000> @tl 08:24:35 <Webster> tl: TrainLength. Indicating the amount of tiles a train occupies, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/User:Tim/Tilelength 08:25:03 <PublicServer> <slaca> ok 08:26:14 <PublicServer> <slaca> i don't get anything, like these: MLLLR, BH4, SL5 :), i dont understand any plans :) 08:26:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008568: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008568.png 08:27:27 <PublicServer> <slaca> how much money does the company now? 08:27:31 <tycoondemon> believe it: more is more!!! 08:27:37 <tycoondemon> !status 08:27:40 <tycoondemon> !company 08:27:42 <tycoondemon> !stats 08:27:42 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: use @coopstats 08:27:51 <tycoondemon> @coopstats 08:27:51 <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html 08:28:32 <Yso> @gap 3 08:28:32 <Webster> Yso: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 08:28:33 <V453000> slaca: everything is on our wiki 08:28:36 <V453000> @quickstart 08:28:38 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 08:29:01 <PublicServer> <slaca> i read it, but my english is not well 08:29:11 <V453000> yaaay I have reached over 35k lines written \o/ 08:29:33 <tycoondemon> congrats V453000 08:29:39 <V453000> heh, tanks 08:29:40 <tycoondemon> you must have time on your side 08:29:40 <tycoondemon> :O 08:29:56 <tycoondemon> what kind of monitor he has? 08:30:00 <V453000> dunno ... I still manage to do many other things 08:30:13 <tycoondemon> amazing 08:30:19 <tycoondemon> you must be a genious then... :O 08:30:43 <V453000> -.- 08:30:45 <V453000> not rly 08:32:02 <PublicServer> <slaca> planes are better than coaltrains? 08:32:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 08:32:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> they are 1. faster to build 08:32:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2. more profittable 08:32:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> 3. dont destroy the map 08:32:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> in terms of boosting coal productions sky high 08:32:58 <PublicServer> <slaca> and if their speed is 1/4? 08:33:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> we have 1/1 :) 08:33:09 <PublicServer> <slaca> i know 08:33:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> well everything depends on settings 08:33:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> also aircraft grf set differs 08:34:07 <tycoondemon> i like these planes 08:34:26 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined company #1 08:35:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> well aviators are best for sure :) 08:36:55 <PublicServer> <slaca> i like colourfull planes :) 08:37:35 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> i like rainbows 08:37:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> weee 08:37:55 <PublicServer> <slaca> omg, i can't follow the concorde, faster than my mouse 08:38:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> click on it 08:38:57 <PublicServer> <slaca> :) 08:38:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> and then ctrl click on the eye 08:39:39 <tycoondemon> its like not an eye 08:39:49 <tycoondemon> that is from old ttd 08:40:00 <tycoondemon> this is a like converging arrows or somethng 08:40:00 <PublicServer> <slaca> lol, i didn't know it, thx 08:40:29 <V453000> opengfx -.- 08:40:47 <tycoondemon> yeah well we should go forward 08:41:11 <tycoondemon> hmmm 08:41:14 <tycoondemon> work is calling 08:41:16 <tycoondemon> bye 08:41:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> seeya :) 08:41:23 <PublicServer> <slaca> bye 08:42:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 08:48:52 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined spectators 08:54:35 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:54:44 <V453000> im off too, see you in the evening :p 08:55:37 <PublicServer> <slaca> see u 08:56:02 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 09:38:18 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 09:41:28 *** LukeusMaximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:29 <LukeusMaximus> !password 09:44:29 <PublicServer> LukeusMaximus: hovers 09:44:39 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 09:46:42 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (leaving) 09:50:18 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 09:55:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 09:58:07 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:58:33 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 10:06:05 *** snc has quit IRC 10:06:05 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 10:06:35 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 10:06:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 10:10:41 *** duckblaster has quit IRC 10:21:19 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 10:22:16 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 10:24:38 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 10:27:30 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 10:27:54 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:49 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:41:11 <XeryusTC> !password 10:41:11 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: vinyls 10:41:17 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 10:43:42 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 10:43:54 <sharpy> !password 10:43:54 <PublicServer> sharpy: pagans 10:44:10 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 10:47:27 *** sharpy has quit IRC 10:53:53 *** benom has quit IRC 10:59:01 <slaca> !password 10:59:01 <PublicServer> slaca: shrill 10:59:15 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 10:59:19 <PublicServer> <slaca> hi 11:00:16 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined company #1 11:00:23 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 11:00:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 11:08:15 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Release: #openttdcoop NewGRF package 8.0-beta1 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/38> 11:08:16 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (connection lost) 11:10:41 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 11:11:08 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 11:11:57 *** avdg1 has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038649: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00038649.png 11:12:13 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 11:12:31 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 11:16:14 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 11:19:30 <slaca> !password 11:19:30 <PublicServer> slaca: befall 11:19:44 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 11:20:22 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 11:20:56 *** Eoin has joined #openttdcoop 11:30:08 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 11:30:59 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 11:33:29 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined company #1 11:35:25 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 11:37:06 *** Fuco has quit IRC 11:42:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 11:45:19 *** kriokam has joined #openttdcoop 11:45:30 <kriokam> !password 11:45:30 <PublicServer> kriokam: grimes 11:47:26 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 11:47:27 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:29 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 11:47:32 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 11:54:44 <kriokam> when game will start? 11:55:04 <planetmaker> when two players are active 11:55:10 <planetmaker> !playercount 11:55:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 3 11:55:14 <planetmaker> !players 11:55:16 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 105 is kriokamera, a spectator 11:55:16 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 94 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 11:55:16 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 88 (Orange) is tycoondemon, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 11:55:23 <kriokam> ok 11:55:29 <planetmaker> uhm... there are two players playing 11:55:40 <planetmaker> oh, you mean... like building? 11:55:42 <kriokam> when players start build network? 11:55:48 <planetmaker> When it's decidec, when voting has closed 11:55:55 <planetmaker> No more accuracy possible ;-) 11:56:00 <kriokam> =) 11:56:04 <kriokam> ok 11:57:20 <kriokam> i want watch the game 11:59:29 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 11:59:29 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 12:00:48 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has joined company #1 12:02:17 *** slaca has quit IRC 12:07:12 <kriokam> one more question: when voting will close? =) 12:07:21 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has joined spectators 12:07:25 <XeryusTC> when there's a clear winner 12:08:05 <perk11> !password 12:08:06 <PublicServer> perk11: whines 12:08:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> it seems to V453000 be a clear winner 12:08:29 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 12:08:35 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has joined company #1 12:08:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> only a few votes have been cast yet 12:09:13 <kriokam> perk11, hi! 12:09:17 <perk11> hi 12:10:24 <kriokam> i'm a kriokamera from ttdrussia.net =) 12:10:40 <perk11> kriokam: oh hi again 12:12:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003AFC1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003AFC1.png 12:12:20 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has joined company #1 12:13:55 <VVG> Hello 12:14:03 <kriokam> hello 12:14:25 <VVG> !password 12:14:25 <PublicServer> VVG: hushed 12:14:35 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 12:14:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> hoo, a new map 12:18:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> Looks like there is a clear winner already :) 12:21:17 <perk11> And how do you plan to build rails? Bridges with intemideate enbankments or just enbankments? 12:21:17 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 12:21:20 <VVG> @gap 3 12:21:20 <Webster> VVG: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 12:21:49 <VVG> bridges 12:21:58 <VVG> there will be bridges, a lot of them, i guess 12:22:08 <VVG> @gap 2 12:22:08 <Webster> VVG: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4. 12:23:07 <kriokam> @gap 50 12:23:07 <Webster> kriokam: For Trainlength of 50: <= 56 needs 2, 57 - 108 needs 3, 109 - 160 needs 4. 12:23:16 <kriokam> %) 12:23:29 <kriokam> !help 12:23:29 <PublicServer> kriokam: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 12:23:37 <VVG> It takes TL as an argument 12:23:46 <XeryusTC> 160 tile bridges :') 12:23:56 <XeryusTC> @gap 50 200 12:23:56 <Webster> XeryusTC: For Trainlength of 50: 10249 - 10300 needs 199, 10301 - 10352 needs 200, 10353 - 10404 needs 201. 12:24:07 <perk11> lol 12:24:19 <XeryusTC> !gap 50 200 12:24:20 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: You need 5 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 50 and gap 200. 12:24:30 <XeryusTC> that bot is somewhat more useful :P 12:24:34 <XeryusTC> !gap 50 12:24:35 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 12:25:01 <perk11> TL 50? 12:25:19 <PublicServer> <VVG> educational value, eh? 12:25:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> never played such watery maps before 12:26:21 <kriokam> !gap 10! 12:26:21 <PublicServer> kriokam: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 12:26:33 <kriokam> !gap 1000 1000 12:26:33 <PublicServer> kriokam: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 1000 and gap 1000. 12:26:41 <kriokam> !gap 1000 10 12:26:41 <PublicServer> kriokam: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 1000 and gap 10. 12:27:02 <kriokam> !gap 1000 1 12:27:02 <PublicServer> kriokam: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 1000 and gap 1. 12:27:06 <kriokam> !gap 1000 100000 12:27:06 <PublicServer> kriokam: You need 101 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 1000 and gap 100000. 12:27:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F7E6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F7E6.png 12:27:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> V's plan is b2b style game? 12:27:42 <perk11> !gap 10 50 12:27:42 <PublicServer> perk11: You need 5 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 10 and gap 50. 12:27:51 <kriokam> @gap 100500 12:27:51 <Webster> kriokam: For Trainlength of 100500: <= 100506 needs 2, 100507 - 201008 needs 3, 201009 - 301510 needs 4. 12:29:43 <VVG> winner just got one more vote clearer :p 12:31:04 <Eoin> !password 12:31:04 <PublicServer> Eoin: chaste 12:31:20 <PublicServer> *** Eoin joined the game 12:31:37 <VVG> @psg 189 12:31:37 <Webster> VVG: (psg <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 12:31:54 <PublicServer> <Eoin> voted 12:31:56 <VVG> @psg189 12:32:00 <VVG> @psg 189 12:32:00 <Webster> VVG: (psg <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 12:32:10 <VVG> Webster url please? 12:32:19 <VVG> @psg 188 12:32:19 <Webster> VVG: (psg <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 12:32:23 <perk11> Eoin: you voited on VVG's vote 12:32:23 <VVG> @psg 12:32:23 <Webster> psg: Public Server Game 12:32:27 <kriokam> @gap (calc 10*10) 12:32:29 <V453000> @psgsave 189 12:32:29 <Webster> PSG 189 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_181_-_190#gameid_189 12:32:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i didnt 12:32:32 <V453000> ;) 12:32:35 <VVG> ty! 12:32:41 <VVG> wait 12:32:47 <VVG> what about direct link? 12:32:53 <VVG> to a save 12:32:57 <V453000> well get that at he archive entry? 12:33:03 <PublicServer> <Eoin> how many votes does 1 need to win? 12:33:10 <V453000> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/publicserver_archive/PublicServerGame_189_Final.sav 12:33:13 <V453000> like that 12:33:18 <PublicServer> <Eoin> V435 has 9 12:33:26 <V453000> 9? O_O 12:33:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> votes, yes 12:33:32 <VVG> that's one step more than needed :) 12:33:42 <V453000> hmm 12:33:49 <V453000> lets start in the evening when people gather :p 12:33:53 <VVG> I expected to get a direct link to a download like with !dl trigger 12:34:01 <V453000> nah 12:34:06 <V453000> you can get taht at the archive entry 12:34:15 <V453000> this only links to the archive :) 12:34:20 <VVG> :( 12:34:28 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 12:36:23 <kriokam> in the V435 plan: what is 'NE island'? 12:36:32 <V453000> north eastern 12:36:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 12:36:50 <kriokam> tnx 12:36:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw 12:37:28 *** perk11 has quit IRC 12:37:31 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 12:37:35 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:37:47 <V453000> ok im off ... I will come in the evening and lets get it rolling ;) 12:38:29 <PublicServer> *** Eoin has left the game (leaving) 12:38:29 <VVG> !password 12:38:29 <PublicServer> VVG: chaste 12:38:37 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 12:38:39 <PublicServer> *** VVG has joined spectators 12:39:03 <VVG> it's pretty much early evening here already :p 12:39:06 <kriokam> 8ball UYJgdfg? 12:39:28 <kriokam> !8ball UYJgdfg? 12:39:32 <VVG> wut? 12:39:52 <kriokam> ball UYJgdfg? 12:39:59 <kriokam> it's bad. 12:40:13 <VVG> what's that supposed to be? 12:40:27 <kriokam> nothing. 12:40:32 <kriokam> =) 12:40:57 <Vitus> !password plox 12:40:57 <PublicServer> Vitus: chaste 12:41:14 <planetmaker> better don't play non-sense or channel-spamming games here 12:41:57 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 12:42:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 12:42:45 <kriokam> i try to test commands from wiki 12:42:51 <kriokam> @8ball 12:42:51 <Webster> kriokam: No clue. 12:42:58 <kriokam> @8ball 123 12:42:58 <Webster> kriokam: The answer is certainly yes. 12:43:03 <kriokam> yes! 12:43:17 <kriokam> okay, i'm satisfied 12:44:12 <V453000> wiki is evil :D 12:44:45 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 12:45:11 <PublicServer> *** VVG has joined company #1 12:45:44 <PublicServer> *** VVG has joined spectators 12:46:00 <VVG> One cannot acces avaible trains button from spectators :( 12:46:05 <VVG> @cl 12:46:06 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 12:46:14 <VVG> @cl 3 230 12:46:14 <Webster> VVG: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 12:49:15 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 12:49:16 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 12:49:18 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 12:50:12 <Vitus> VVG: Just learn the formulae from source code and you're OK :) 12:50:54 <VVG> i'll do it when the train will run at lower speed than 230 12:51:28 <VVG> atm it's enough to know that curve should tl or longer :p 12:53:03 <Vitus> Well, maximum curve speed for erail (considering TL>CL) is 232 12:53:15 <Vitus> And that corresponds to CL 6/7 12:54:50 <Vitus> Zig-zags are little bit tricky, though :) 12:57:44 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 12:58:02 <XeryusTC> zig zags also follow CL rules 12:58:08 <XeryusTC> but than with 3 direction changes instead of 2 12:58:26 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 12:58:49 <XeryusTC> Barbaar: Enschede? :o 12:58:59 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 12:59:01 <Barbaar> yup 12:59:15 <VVG> it's kinda easy with zig-zags - train should fit only one zig-zag at a time 12:59:36 <XeryusTC> Barbaar: i go there quite often :o Atak \m/ 12:59:59 <Barbaar> hehe yes, the atak can be nice 13:00:41 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ow, i see V453 has pretty m uch won already :) 13:02:15 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 13:02:45 <XeryusTC> heh, i dont agree with his plan though :P 13:02:48 <XeryusTC> on one small part ;) 13:03:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> that would be? 13:03:48 <XeryusTC> the small ML :P 13:03:53 <XeryusTC> and that it needs to be expanded 13:04:37 <Vitus> Xeryus: What do you mean with the zig-zags? 13:05:32 <VVG> I quit my last sp game becuase i jsut couldn't expand two close hubs anymore. They were a bunch of hacks built on top of each other. And still couldn't cope with traffic properly :( 13:06:14 <XeryusTC> Vitus: the straight-diagonal-straight-diagonal-straight stuff 13:07:09 <Vitus> I know, but I'm not sure how you meant that they follow CL rules 13:11:27 <XeryusTC> you cannot have a train switch direction more than 3 times within CL on a zig-zag 13:11:44 <XeryusTC> just like it is with normal corners, but that is 2 direction changes 13:11:45 <kriokam> !help 13:11:45 <PublicServer> kriokam: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 13:12:00 <VVG> 3 times? 13:12:22 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 13:12:54 <kriokam> what CL means? 13:14:20 <VVG> curve length 13:14:48 <kriokam> tnx 13:15:59 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 13:16:07 <Absolutis> !download win32 13:16:07 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20214/openttd-trunk-r20214-windows-win32.zip 13:17:22 <Absolutis> !PASSWORD 13:17:30 <Absolutis> !password 13:17:30 <PublicServer> Absolutis: fruity 13:18:23 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 13:18:48 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'm still going to do a plan, please wait 13:19:24 *** Hello has joined #openttdcoop 13:21:33 <Vitus> Xeryus: Yes, then curve speed penalty applies. But the speed is ofter lower than you expected 13:23:35 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 13:26:13 <XeryusTC> Vitus: it takes the limit of the shortest piece of track IIRC 13:26:25 <Vitus> It does not 13:26:43 <Vitus> See train_cmd.cpp; starting at line 327 13:27:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001F440: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F440.png 13:27:37 <XeryusTC> hmm, dont have the source handy 13:27:45 <XeryusTC> but i could be wrong :o 13:27:58 <XeryusTC> zigzags are sometimes a mystery 13:30:30 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 13:31:08 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 13:31:11 <perk11> !password 13:31:11 <PublicServer> perk11: fronds 13:31:26 <VVG> Mistery? I thought it was 3 turns - slowdown, 2 turns - full speed 13:31:33 <VVG> 3 or more 13:31:38 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 13:31:39 <Vitus> That's not really mystery 13:31:45 <Vitus> But the actual speed limit is :) 13:31:48 <XeryusTC> yeah, but how much it slows down is :o 13:32:11 <perk11> XeryusTC: There is a formula 13:32:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We're just doing test 13:32:19 <VVG> Does it matter? Slowdown is evil, whatever it is :) 13:32:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at !CL test 13:33:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm 13:33:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> smal slowdown 13:33:46 <kriokam> to 207 13:33:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 1.5kk = 1.5 mil? :P 13:34:03 <kriokam> yes 13:34:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> That is strange indeed 13:34:31 <VVG> what is? 13:34:38 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Add more engines 13:34:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Like four or something 13:35:37 <VVG> What was strange? 13:35:46 <PublicServer> <perk11> lol 13:35:49 *** Hello has quit IRC 13:35:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 228 yay 13:36:01 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes 13:36:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Try the other ones 13:36:28 <PublicServer> <perk11> TL 32?? 13:36:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> TL 16 13:36:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 16 13:36:38 <PublicServer> <perk11> ok 13:36:55 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> other what? 13:37:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The other curves 13:37:10 <thgergo> !password 13:37:10 <PublicServer> thgergo: fronds 13:37:23 <PublicServer> *** thgergo joined the game 13:37:24 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 13:37:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> hi 13:37:41 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> snake 13:37:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 151 13:38:37 <Vitus> !screen 13:38:39 <PublicServer> *** Vitus made screenshot at 0001EE32: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001EE32.png 13:39:04 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:39:08 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> 196 13:39:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm 13:39:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I know why 13:39:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I can't even count half-tiles >.> 13:41:17 <VVG> 2 halves - one full :p 13:41:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, it actually counts train parts (wagons and engines) 13:42:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EE2F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001EE2F.png 13:42:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If you use smaller wagons, the curve speed will improve 13:42:55 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i'll test 13:43:40 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 13:43:45 <sharpy> !password 13:43:45 <PublicServer> sharpy: stupor 13:44:02 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 13:44:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> could someone check my plan 13:44:29 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no voting for own plan? 13:44:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 13:44:57 <PublicServer> <perk11> 230 13:45:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where is it, Absolutis? 13:45:18 <PublicServer> <perk11> all the way 13:45:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Absolutis: you cant vote for yourself 13:45:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> brb 13:46:05 <Vitus> For anyone interested, check http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp 13:46:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> back 13:46:17 <Vitus> Lines 327-390 13:48:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Going off 13:48:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Any CL calculations you'd like before I go off? :) 13:49:21 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I take that as no 13:49:30 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 13:49:36 <Vitus> See you later 13:49:44 <PublicServer> <perk11> bye 13:50:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> could someone check y plan and say their opinion 13:50:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> my* 13:51:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You might want to mention explicitly uours is a PAX game plan. 13:51:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like that, yes. 13:51:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> for some reason i feel like most people have voted for the most popular plan xD 13:52:10 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i would say it would be tricky, due to space constraints 13:52:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The largest problem I see is the planned rail does not take all the water areas into account. 13:52:24 <PublicServer> <sharpy> problem with democrecy :p 13:52:40 <planetmaker> Mazur, that's not a principle problem 13:53:14 <PublicServer> <perk11> I think V453000's plan is the most popular because of educational value sign 13:53:19 <Mazur> Thee problem with democracy os, that it gives people a vote. 13:53:19 <planetmaker> one can choose to ignore that and build some kind of bridges 13:53:59 <Mazur> Yes, pm, but that would mean a gross of bridges on this map. 13:54:10 <planetmaker> that can be traditional, it can be with many land "pylons" or it can be a simple track between water tiles 13:54:23 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> minor change to plan 13:54:27 <planetmaker> Mazur, build canals left and right and bulldoze where the track is supposed to go 13:54:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yep, thats what i thought 13:54:56 <planetmaker> Also... building many bridges is not a problem either 13:55:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pm: building hubs in watery areas is though 13:55:26 * planetmaker likes most the games with much water, kinda island-ish, where a group of people tends one island, negotiating ML-handover places between those 13:55:31 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i minimized the amount of the hubs 13:55:38 <planetmaker> XeryusTC, tough, yes. But then it's fun! :-) 13:56:04 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i think it should be a no terraforming game 13:56:17 <PublicServer> <sharpy> really stretch building skill 13:56:23 <PublicServer> <perk11> long-long bridges? 13:56:47 <PublicServer> <sharpy> another challenge 13:56:52 <PublicServer> <sharpy> mainly a planning one 13:57:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020C18: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00020C18.png 13:58:05 <Mazur> pm: Yes, thatkind of game is fun, but that is not this plan. 13:58:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> GTG 13:58:58 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 13:59:17 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 14:01:59 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 14:02:13 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 14:04:23 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 14:10:20 *** sharpy has quit IRC 14:10:27 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 14:12:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 14:12:21 *** LukeusMaximus has quit IRC 14:14:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that V is the winner 14:15:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000 has been declared winner 14:15:43 <Mazur> It was inevitable by now. 14:16:34 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 14:18:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed 14:18:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think we need to start voting 1-5 on most preferred again :P 14:18:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at least you dont get people switching to the most popular plan as much as this 14:21:30 <perk11> !password 14:21:30 <PublicServer> perk11: pigpen 14:21:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> @gap 3 14:21:53 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 14:21:53 <perk11> ) 14:21:54 <XeryusTC> @gap 3 14:21:54 <Webster> XeryusTC: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 14:22:45 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has joined company #1 14:27:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00033620: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00033620.png 14:28:43 * XeryusTC highlights V453000 some more 14:29:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and why is no one else building ML? 14:29:50 <PublicServer> <perk11> TL16? 14:29:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3 14:30:02 <PublicServer> <perk11> k 14:30:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 16 was just for that test 14:30:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> look at the plan ;) 14:30:11 <PublicServer> <perk11> sry 14:30:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the plan is the first thing you should look at when joining a game ;) 14:31:43 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 14:31:50 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> oh hey, started building? 14:31:50 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> startes building? 14:31:54 <PublicServer> <perk11> yes 14:32:00 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay 14:32:08 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> why not maglev? 14:32:09 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> irc topic needs updating then :) 14:32:44 <XeryusTC> @stage Building 14:32:44 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #190 (r20214) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 14:33:48 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 14:34:16 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> terraforming allowed? 14:34:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ofcourse 14:34:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just dont flatten entire mountains 14:34:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> As little as possible, please. 14:35:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And try to keep the feel of the landscape intact. 14:37:46 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 14:39:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no one else is building ML :( 14:40:13 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i gonna left you in 15 minutes 14:40:21 <ODM> votings over? 14:40:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 14:40:38 <ODM> v won? 14:41:03 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 14:41:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> wow dude, they loved V's plan 14:41:22 <PublicServer> <0DM> <3 xeryus 14:41:33 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 14:41:56 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (leaving) 14:42:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> need a hand? 14:42:00 *** kriokam has quit IRC 14:42:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 14:42:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CD61: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003CD61.png 14:42:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm lets see 14:45:01 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 14:46:01 <Progman> !password 14:46:01 <PublicServer> Progman: ciders 14:46:10 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 14:47:51 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 14:50:01 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 14:52:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm, do you think the nw goods drop line is meant to go over the island with setchester? 14:52:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> or just north from ysos plan:p 14:52:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'd say Setchester 14:52:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, massive detour:D 14:53:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or we make a artificial island 14:53:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> the goods has to be at standale city, so its a bit weird 14:53:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we could also use Nanness as drop 14:54:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and fit it between those two power stations and mitter :P 14:54:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh oh:P 14:55:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> wheres that czech guy who is supposed to plan this:p 14:57:11 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 14:57:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00013308: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00013308.png 14:57:32 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined company #1 14:57:49 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Spike 14:57:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> crap its spike 14:57:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> run 14:57:58 <^Spike^> :) 14:58:04 <^Spike^> needed to reset my ottd settings 14:58:08 <^Spike^> didn't notice my name :D 14:58:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh 14:58:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Spike: you n00b :P 15:03:47 <^Spike^> XeryusTC your uberb00n 15:03:49 <^Spike^> you* 15:03:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> i hate bridges. 15:04:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> make a giant landbridge 15:04:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> spike: oh, i see what you did there... 15:04:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> nah no fun in that:p 15:11:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats most of the basic rail i think 15:12:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C50B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C50B.png 15:12:28 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> except the north thingie:P 15:12:37 <sharpy> !password 15:12:37 <PublicServer> sharpy: lagged 15:12:43 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:13:08 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 15:13:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you didnt have to rejoin those tracks in those corners :P 15:13:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> by your bridges near Nanness :P 15:13:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh i thought an easy way to keep them equal length:p 15:14:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who cares :P 15:14:13 *** avdg has quit IRC 15:14:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> them! 15:15:02 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:15:04 *** avdg1 has quit IRC 15:15:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i can see this turning out like a chaos game already :o 15:15:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> woo:D 15:17:49 <avdg> :) chaos 15:18:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh that BBH on the island will be fun 15:18:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> when it gets bigger 15:19:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> which goods go where anyway? 15:19:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that bbh on that island 15:19:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> very clear indeed :P 15:19:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmmm sorry 15:20:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> the one in the north:p 15:20:30 <PublicServer> <sharpy> MSH you mean? 15:20:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh that one :o 15:20:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> well MSH/BBH, kinda depends if we put an SLH there:p 15:21:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> considering track length id use BBH 15:21:24 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 15:21:30 <PublicServer> <sharpy> isn't it MSH cause it connects a station? 15:21:46 <fmauneko> !password 15:21:46 <PublicServer> fmauneko: lagged 15:21:58 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 15:22:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> ill call it BBMSH 15:22:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> 01 15:22:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that drop needs to be in reach of a town :o 15:22:35 <PublicServer> <sharpy> should we destroy the other plans? 15:22:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah standale city:D 15:22:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if they're in the way, yes :P 15:23:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh yes, i see in the plan now :o 15:23:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> easy:p 15:23:47 <PublicServer> <sharpy> TL 3 is going to be fun 15:23:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 15:24:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ohai :p 15:25:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> quite happy with that:p 15:26:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> should we mark some points for the stations? 15:27:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002B07: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002B07.png 15:29:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, did you notice where he wanted the SE goods?:P 15:29:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Liverchurch? :P 15:30:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, Lartminster :o 15:30:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can easily be done :P 15:30:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> SE goods 15:30:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> you boon 15:30:28 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:30:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is SE :P 15:30:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> ooh i read it wrong 15:31:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> the station where SE goods are dropped 15:31:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> in the southwest:p 15:31:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's where my plan is :( 15:31:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah 15:32:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> made a builders board 15:32:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> anyway i put down markers 15:32:47 <PublicServer> <sharpy> is V here? 15:32:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> nah he'd be back tonight? 15:33:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> wow theres alot of people on:O 15:33:18 <PublicServer> <sharpy> shouldn't he be the one to impliment his plan? 15:33:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and only we two are building apparently 15:33:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> not that many as in the previous game 15:33:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> nah thegergo is making a bbh:) 15:33:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh gawd 15:33:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 15:33:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I was going to give the oil station a shot :p 15:34:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> go do it:D 15:34:04 <PublicServer> <sharpy> BBH's should be made expandable i guess? 15:34:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> i call dibs on livestock/steel 15:34:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> just rebuild them later, BBH's rarely are 15:34:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> bbh should be build easily and extendable with tl 3 15:35:04 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 15:35:28 <PublicServer> <sharpy> CL is 3 yus? 15:35:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> probably 15:35:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 15:35:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, except if you proof that 2tl works as well 15:36:29 <PublicServer> <sharpy> minimal terraforming? 15:36:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> try :p 15:36:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> be gentle on the environment 15:37:17 <PublicServer> <sharpy> don't want green peace on my back :p 15:37:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i do, because i'll run backwards into a wall alot then :P 15:38:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> can i just say 15:38:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> hub building cl3 with LR is...easy 15:38:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> and i made mine massive:D 15:39:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh 15:39:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus 15:39:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> why did you make BBh 01 2 times?:p 15:39:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because it is one big hub :P 15:39:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> split only by half the map:D 15:39:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed :P 15:39:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> did you jus steal 2?:P 15:39:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyway, dinner time 15:39:57 <PublicServer> <thgergo> then mine is the 3rd:) 15:40:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> enjoy mate 15:40:43 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 15:41:00 *** mixrin has quit IRC 15:41:16 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 15:41:16 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 15:42:02 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 15:42:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 15:42:10 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Hey ! 15:42:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow 15:42:21 <PublicServer> <Damalix> new game :) 15:42:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016EC5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016EC5.png 15:44:31 <PublicServer> * avdg takes number 5 15:44:57 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I have took a 06th 15:45:25 <PublicServer> <sharpy> mine must be 7th then 15:45:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 15:45:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> busy with wich can be 8 :p 15:46:38 <avdg> @gap 3 15:46:38 <Webster> avdg: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 15:47:13 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i never understand that stat 15:47:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> if the gap you need to clear between signals is les than 9 tiles, you can build 2 bridges 15:47:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> ah i see 15:51:18 <PublicServer> * avdg takes BBH 08 15:51:41 <PublicServer> <0DM> anyway dinnertime 15:51:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> bb 15:51:53 <PublicServer> <Damalix> cya later 15:51:54 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ODM 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Osai 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v SmatZ 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v XeryusTC 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v hylje 15:54:35 <avdg> … fast spam 15:55:25 <PublicServer> <Damalix> a forest in our plan -_- 15:57:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005660: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005660.png 15:57:40 <PublicServer> <sharpy> how many tracks would NW goods need? 15:57:46 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I go making the first SLH 15:58:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. no 7? 15:58:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> space :) 15:59:21 <PublicServer> <sharpy> bloody local authoraty 15:59:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> kill them :p 16:02:29 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (leaving) 16:02:38 <damalix> I'l bbl to build something :) 16:03:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> I'm black 16:04:01 <PublicServer> <sharpy> how do i get a local authoraty on my side appart from trees? 16:04:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> service 16:04:18 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> bribing :p 16:04:34 <PublicServer> <sharpy> seriously bribing? 16:04:51 <PublicServer> <sharpy> don't want to do the wrong thing here 16:04:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> just do a few tries 16:05:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> its gambling anyway :p 16:05:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> do trees always 16:05:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unless you're too low to get proper standing by it 16:05:40 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i'm sitting on an appalling rating 16:05:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or you need to delete something which requires a higher standing than trees can get you 16:06:02 <PublicServer> <sharpy> scandale city 16:06:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> just wait a bit 16:06:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> its served :p 16:07:34 <PublicServer> * XeryusTC goes to build wood/grain 16:07:54 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:56 <PublicServer> *** thgergo has left the game (connection lost) 16:08:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I have a doubt on how to signal the entrances atOil station 16:08:22 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Could someone help me ? :p 16:08:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should've made something more balanced :P 16:09:08 <thgergo> !password 16:09:08 <PublicServer> thgergo: swivel 16:09:19 <PublicServer> *** thgergo joined the game 16:09:22 <PublicServer> <thgergo> re 16:12:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002972F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002972F.png 16:13:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Back 16:14:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> run! run! 16:14:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, I don't know how to make something more balanced :p 16:14:17 <PublicServer> <sharpy> rage 16:16:39 <PublicServer> <thgergo> im gonna make the oil-coal drop 16:18:36 <Eoin> !password 16:18:36 <PublicServer> Eoin: cranky 16:18:49 <PublicServer> *** Eoin joined the game 16:19:06 <PublicServer> <Eoin> you lot build fast 16:19:32 <PublicServer> <thgergo> many of us active:P 16:20:10 <PublicServer> <sharpy> argh come on scandale 16:22:42 *** absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 16:22:49 <absolutis> what plan won? 16:23:00 <avdg> v's 16:23:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> V's 16:23:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :D 16:23:15 <absolutis> how many votes others got 16:23:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3 to others 16:23:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> of which over half were mine! 16:23:35 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 16:23:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> ODM' got one, Xeryus' got two 16:23:42 *** absolutis has quit IRC 16:23:47 <Webster> Latest update from blog: OSQC the follow up … at last <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/07/27/osqc-the-follow-up-at-last/> 16:24:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> boo 16:25:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> sharpy? 16:25:15 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 16:25:19 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 16:25:39 <PublicServer> <sharpy> hello 16:25:42 <PublicServer> <sharpy> ? 16:25:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> why shortcut it 16:25:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> it would desync 16:26:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> just saying :p 16:26:26 <PublicServer> <sharpy> where do you think i should join it? 16:26:27 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 16:26:33 <Absolutis> !password 16:26:33 <PublicServer> Absolutis: cranky 16:26:38 *** perk11 has quit IRC 16:26:41 <PublicServer> <sharpy> and do i need more platforms once this set is installed? 16:26:54 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 16:27:03 <PublicServer> <Eoin> dosent seem enough for goods 16:27:34 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i know, but i'm thinking multiple goods drops 16:27:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019D4D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019D4D.png 16:27:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> are all hubs built? 16:28:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except from SLHs, yes 16:28:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 extra platform :) 16:28:17 <PublicServer> <sharpy> ah 16:28:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need some traffic soon :o 16:28:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> damm city tile 16:28:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, is that you at lartminster? 16:28:35 <PublicServer> <sharpy> damn city 16:29:28 <PublicServer> <sharpy> :D 16:30:09 <PublicServer> <sharpy> this city just refuses to like me 16:30:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> nice:p 16:30:22 <PublicServer> <0DM> which city? 16:30:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> scandal city 16:30:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> aka standale city 16:30:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm 16:30:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> not enough land area around the town 16:30:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> is necessary terraforming allowed? 16:31:00 <PublicServer> <sharpy> yes 16:31:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ofcourse 16:31:17 <damalix> !password 16:31:17 <PublicServer> damalix: airier 16:31:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just regular coop tf 16:31:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> tf if you must, but preserve the landscape 16:31:32 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 16:31:33 <PublicServer> <Damalix> re 16:31:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> the only trick i can think of is, make a temporary island near the town center 16:32:22 <PublicServer> <sharpy> and the delete after station construction? 16:32:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah 16:32:32 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 16:32:35 <PublicServer> <sharpy> this i shall do that 16:32:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> tbh thats just as bad as bribing:p 16:32:41 <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol 16:32:45 <PublicServer> <Eoin> are you using boats or helis for oil? 16:32:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not ships 16:32:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> trains i think 16:33:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's in hte plan. 16:33:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think it is trains only 16:33:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, trains only says plan 16:33:29 <PublicServer> <Eoin> so u TF a path to the oil rigs, or just leave them? 16:33:42 <Mazur> Depends on distance. 16:34:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Near shore we generally just walk the station. 16:35:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like PlensideWest oil rig, mini island with a station tile and a station on shore. 16:35:17 <PublicServer> <Eoin> gotya 16:35:18 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=49418 <-- behold folks! :-) 16:35:19 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Scenario Quest/Competition by #openttdcoop 2010 - 01 (at www.tt-forums.net) 16:35:27 <XeryusTC> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/07/27/building-101-double-bridges-and-you/ 16:35:29 <XeryusTC> more important! 16:35:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> win! 16:36:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> psst 16:36:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> when i said island, i didnt mean continent:p 16:36:25 <PublicServer> <sharpy> it workd" 16:36:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i feel dirty on the inside now :p 16:37:06 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 16:37:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> tbh you only needed like a 5x5 block 16:37:18 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Made an attempt to signal Oil entrance 16:37:22 <PublicServer> <sharpy> wanted to be sure :) 16:37:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm not sure about the pickup:P 16:37:58 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> That's what I thought :p 16:38:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> SLH02 done 16:38:54 <pugi> Ammler 16:38:59 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Building 101: double bridges and you <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/07/27/building-101-double-bridges-and-you/> 16:39:04 <pugi> why are you kicking me from bots channel? :( 16:39:35 <planetmaker> what do you want there? 16:40:11 <pugi> to be there :D 16:40:16 <pugi> wiki changes :P 16:40:21 <Ammler> pugi: you should disable autojoin 16:40:28 <Ammler> that is very annoying 16:40:42 <Ammler> anyway, it can be public now 16:41:05 <pugi> you mean autorejoin after kick? 16:41:07 <pugi> i like that 16:41:17 <PublicServer> <Eoin> normally you get kicked for a reason though 16:41:24 <pugi> well... no 16:41:37 <pugi> we often do it for fun :P 16:41:39 <XeryusTC> Eoin: not if you're in a channel with dutch people :P 16:41:44 <PublicServer> <Eoin> well 16:41:47 <PublicServer> <Eoin> you dutchies are a bit ma 16:41:48 <PublicServer> <Eoin> d 16:41:59 <XeryusTC> yes, yes we are 16:42:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> autorejoin always on! 16:42:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> its irc:P 16:42:08 <Mazur> Only a bit? ONLY A BIT??? Kick the bastard! 16:42:27 <PublicServer> <Eoin> SORRY YOUR FUCKING NUTS INSANE 16:42:32 <PublicServer> <Eoin> :) 16:42:36 <Mazur> Caps. 16:42:40 <Ammler> !kick Eoin 16:42:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B335: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001B335.png 16:42:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> among others. 16:43:14 <PublicServer> <Eoin> should the other plans not be deleted now? 16:43:19 <planetmaker> nope 16:43:28 <pugi> Ammler, i can remove the bots channel from autojoin on start ;) 16:43:29 <planetmaker> for hysterical raisins :-P 16:43:41 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> he way 16:43:51 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> accidental *blush* 16:43:53 <Ammler> pugi: it is ok 16:44:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> i think xeryus is slowly going mad on his station 16:44:03 <pugi> now i've done it :( 16:44:17 <Ammler> I just dislike autorejoin 16:44:24 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> gtg 16:44:27 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 16:44:31 <Ammler> I don't want to ban people for that reason 16:44:40 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 16:45:21 * planetmaker has also auto-rejoin enabled :-P 16:45:27 <planetmaker> though... it's not necessary atm 16:45:28 <pugi> everyone should have :D 16:46:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Meow. 16:47:19 <Ammler> pugi: and what is kick for then? 16:47:34 <pugi> for new people that don't have :D 16:47:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ammler: fun duh :P 16:47:48 <Ammler> STUPID 16:47:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fun, duh even 16:47:56 <pugi> or to know that they should really stfu now :D 16:48:06 <pugi> kind of first warning 16:48:08 <pugi> or last 16:48:26 *** puk has joined #openttdcoop 16:48:28 <Ammler> well, the problem is people which you kick can rejoin 16:48:31 <puk> !password 16:48:31 <PublicServer> puk: frenzy 16:48:34 <Ammler> if you need to ban, they can't 16:48:39 <Ammler> so what is the fun about? 16:48:47 <PublicServer> *** Puk joined the game 16:48:49 <planetmaker> like @kban blubber 300 16:49:05 <Ammler> is it fun to ban someone just because he has autorejoin? 16:49:06 <planetmaker> then they have 5 minutes to think about ;-) 16:49:11 <planetmaker> nope 16:49:48 <Ammler> well, it is up to you, if you prefer bans :-) 16:50:14 <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't. I'm actually fully with you 16:50:32 <planetmaker> I only activated it once when there were many people who considered kicks being a fun entertainment 16:50:34 <planetmaker> I don't. 16:50:58 <Ammler> hmm, we could alias @kick with @kban 1000 16:51:10 <planetmaker> :-D 16:51:27 *** Dezmond has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:27 <planetmaker> that's 16:40m! 16:51:51 <Ammler> or whatever :-P 16:52:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's all not cl :o 16:52:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and even if it is, it doesnt matter because trains stop 4 tileslater anyway ;) 16:52:57 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 16:53:44 <sharpy> !password 16:53:44 <PublicServer> sharpy: frenzy 16:53:56 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 16:54:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmmm, what was SLH02 built for ? 16:54:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> someones been a bit optimistic with his slh 16:54:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> im assuming there was an oil rig:p 16:54:35 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :D 16:54:58 <PublicServer> <sharpy> whose building the huge bridges there anyhow? 16:55:09 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i was helping absolutis out 16:55:25 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Well I just point out what I see, then if you think it's not an issue, leave it as it is 16:55:48 <PublicServer> <Puk> this is going to be a live expansion game ? =p 16:55:58 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yep :p 16:56:14 <PublicServer> <Eoin> im starting to think this bridge thing wasnt in the plan 16:57:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003383E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003383E.png 16:58:08 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has joined spectators 16:58:13 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 16:59:28 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 17:00:46 <PublicServer> <Eoin> thgergo, connection inc 17:01:05 <PublicServer> <Eoin> im assuming thats why absolutis started that anyway 17:01:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh 17:01:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> no 17:01:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> its not for that 17:01:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> and it shouldnt be there:P 17:01:45 <PublicServer> <Eoin> why did absolutis do that then :( precious 10 mins of my life wasted building bridges lol 17:01:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> it was meant for an oil refinery 17:01:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> which wasnt there anymore 17:01:58 <PublicServer> <thgergo> its only double bridged? 17:01:58 <PublicServer> <Eoin> delete time then i guess 17:02:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> bck 17:02:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> and please check your own work, dont just finish others 17:02:04 <PublicServer> <thgergo> at !here 17:02:04 <PublicServer> <Damalix> On the Iron ore station, should we build separate stations for ore unload and goods unload ? or since it is all unloading we can build them together ? 17:02:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> all unloading can go together 17:02:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> as long as load/unload are seperate 17:02:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> keep in midn the drop station has to be on the east side, it ahs to be near town 17:03:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> thinking of a decent plan for it, needs to be compact 17:04:03 <PublicServer> <Eoin> se goods and iron looks like it will be hard to fit 17:04:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol trees 17:04:42 <PublicServer> <Eoin> had to :P 17:04:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> i guess^^ 17:05:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> so the... junction is beside church city 17:06:05 <PublicServer> *** Puk has left the game (leaving) 17:07:48 *** Paltala has joined #openttdcoop 17:07:55 <Paltala> hey guys 17:08:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey paltala 17:08:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow 17:08:02 <Paltala> !password 17:08:02 <PublicServer> Paltala: dryers 17:08:08 <damalix> hey 17:08:11 <PublicServer> *** Paltala joined the game 17:08:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Someone could check OIL PICKUP entrance ? :p 17:08:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi, Pal 17:08:37 <PublicServer> <Paltala> D: my plan didnt get a single vote 17:10:06 <sharpy> !password 17:10:06 <PublicServer> sharpy: dryers 17:10:15 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 17:12:29 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 17:12:41 <sharpy> !password 17:12:41 <PublicServer> sharpy: dryers 17:12:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E7E4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003E7E4.png 17:13:10 <sharpy> !password 17:13:10 <PublicServer> sharpy: keened 17:13:20 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 17:13:34 <PublicServer> <Paltala> is the TL 4? 17:13:40 <PublicServer> <Eoin> 3 17:13:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> no 3 17:13:46 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ta 17:14:25 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 17:16:02 <fmauneko> !screen 17:16:05 <PublicServer> *** fmauneko made screenshot at 00003EAE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003EAE.png 17:16:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> if someone wants to start the MSH in the southwest, feel free to 17:17:04 <PublicServer> <Eoin> id fuck it up 17:17:05 <PublicServer> <Paltala> *cough* im doing one myself :D 17:17:13 <PublicServer> <Paltala> near BBH 08 17:17:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> you mean an SLH? 17:17:34 <PublicServer> <Eoin> thatsa slh 17:17:36 <PublicServer> <Eoin> indeed 17:19:18 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 17:19:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm i quite like my station, im afraid the waiting space is half a tile too short though 17:20:06 <PublicServer> <Eoin> half a tile 17:20:10 <PublicServer> <Eoin> that is brutal :( 17:20:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 17:21:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> damnit:P it just doesnt fit:D 17:22:23 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 17:22:47 <PublicServer> <Paltala> Can someone help me with my prio at SLH 03 17:22:54 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i need someone to check if its right 17:22:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah, its too big i think:p 17:23:20 <slaca> !password 17:23:20 <PublicServer> slaca: keened 17:23:33 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 17:23:35 <PublicServer> <slaca> hi 17:23:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi, slaca 17:23:58 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 17:25:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello again 17:25:15 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 17:25:17 <PublicServer> <Damalix> re 17:25:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> oi matey 17:25:23 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Welcome back 17:27:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> need an MSH:P 17:27:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> go build it 17:27:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> which is strangely enough the same as a BBH 17:27:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001AF50: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001AF50.png 17:27:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> i was trying to enthousiasm othersLO 17:28:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> with my mad enthousiasm skills 17:28:11 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 17:29:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> argh 17:29:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a farm just shut down while i was making a train for it xD 17:29:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> auch 17:29:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> add industry :p 17:29:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah ;) 17:29:52 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 17:29:52 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2) 17:30:01 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 1 17:30:05 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2 17:31:18 <PublicServer> <Eoin> all stations have to be roro? 17:31:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 17:31:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> no 17:31:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> ...lol 17:31:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they do by default coop rules ;) 17:31:36 <PublicServer> <sharpy> not small SL stations 17:31:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they also should 17:31:49 <PublicServer> <Eoin> how will i fit a roro in here? 17:31:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> weve always built plenty of terminus stations 17:31:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> roro avoids some problems you get with terminus 17:32:01 <PublicServer> <sharpy> wiki on stations states less than 3 trains servicing can be terminus 17:32:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> unless the station goes mad terminus should be fine 17:32:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> I hope we don't need rules if it has to be roro or terminal... 17:32:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need rules for everything! 17:32:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and forms 17:32:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> forms are nice 17:32:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> and pandas 17:32:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> sharpy: coal drop can be shorter btw.. you just need TL to accelerate 17:32:52 <PublicServer> <Spike> but that's just an idea to keep in mind.. leave it for now :) 17:33:11 <PublicServer> <sharpy> its goods drop, and its so that a train getting held up at the end signals doesn't block the station 17:33:37 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh.. 17:33:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> build @ power station.. :) 17:33:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:33:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi guys 17:33:51 <PublicServer> <Spike> and well.. still it's a drop :D 17:33:52 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi V 17:33:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey guy 17:33:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey V 17:33:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah :p 17:33:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh 17:33:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gratz ;) 17:34:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> building already \o/ 17:34:16 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i did say it would be nice for him to impliment it 17:34:18 <PublicServer> <Paltala> your plan, V 17:34:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> he didnt like it 17:34:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> 0DM: you're gonna hate me. ;) 17:34:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V: you did realise that this plan is like chaos dont you? 17:35:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> 0DM: see !cl ;) 17:35:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh nice spotted 17:35:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> that was fine untill i changed some things:D 17:35:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> will fix in a bit 17:35:38 <V453000> omfg 17:35:45 *** Dezmond has quit IRC 17:35:48 <V453000> XeryusTC: dont say that :p 17:35:53 <PublicServer> <Paltala> like my fix 0DM? 17:35:55 <PublicServer> <Paltala> :P 17:36:00 <XeryusTC> V453000: it is though 17:36:05 <V453000> I admit 17:36:07 <PublicServer> <0DM> naah thats a boring fix:P 17:36:16 <XeryusTC> and it will terribly fail in this game with the little experience that is there :P 17:36:16 <PublicServer> <Paltala> its still a fix :P 17:36:20 <V453000> but as long as you dont admit to people, they dont mess up that bad like in chaos :P 17:36:26 <XeryusTC> V453000: posted the double bridges post btw 17:36:37 <V453000> XeryusTC: keep hubs far from each other and it will not fail :) 17:36:44 <V453000> nice :) will read later 17:36:49 <V453000> !password 17:36:49 <PublicServer> V453000: whaled 17:36:55 <PublicServer> *** Paltala has left the game (connection lost) 17:36:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:37:01 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:37:02 <Paltala> ill be back sometime or another 17:37:14 *** Paltala has quit IRC 17:38:25 <PublicServer> <Eoin> can someone check //eoin 17:38:37 <PublicServer> <Eoin> is that "sync" 17:38:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> uhm 17:39:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> bad splitter 17:39:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> use ! signs if you want to direct attention to somehwere 17:39:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> big gap? 17:39:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> no way to use signals between the splits 17:39:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> better :p 17:39:59 <PublicServer> <Eoin> ooh 17:40:11 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 17:40:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 17:40:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why have i gone mad btw? 17:41:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !needs 3 bridges :D 17:41:07 <PublicServer> <Eoin> if it needs 3 bridges 17:41:11 <PublicServer> <Eoin> im guessing one is bi directional? 17:41:18 <PublicServer> <Spike> no? 17:41:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 17:41:32 <PublicServer> <Eoin> which way needs 2 then 17:41:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 17:41:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> its too long for being bidirectional 17:41:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> just keep those 2 17:41:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> nice one 17:41:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's a sl, it will not break down 17:41:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> just make the gap a bit smaller 17:41:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unless there are alot of trains going there 17:41:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> keep it 17:42:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> also, if it goes down, you can fix it later:) 17:42:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> who wrote that sign btw? 17:42:09 <fmauneko> @gap 3 17:42:09 <Webster> fmauneko: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 17:42:24 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> me :p 17:42:33 <PublicServer> <Eoin> it needs 2 bridges, not 3, no? 17:42:40 <PublicServer> <Eoin> oh wait the gap is 11 not 9 17:42:41 <PublicServer> * V453000 slaps avdg 17:42:41 <PublicServer> <Eoin> doh 17:42:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> the calculater says 3 17:42:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003EBEE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003EBEE.png 17:42:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> ys 17:43:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> deep in SL 17:43:06 <Barbaar> expand when needed i guess 17:43:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> you need 3 bridges there and 3 back 17:43:17 <PublicServer> <Eoin> ugh im going to kill my mouse 17:43:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 17:43:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus 17:43:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> Why do people love to use PBS prios? 17:43:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hate 17:43:51 <Barbaar> that's nasty 17:43:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> how the hell you get 6 bridges there :) 17:44:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> V: your not the only one 17:44:14 <damalix> add an island in the middle ? 17:44:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> I killed a lot pbs installations in the previous game 17:44:37 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i only really know how to signal PBS 17:44:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs for a simple split... 17:44:48 <PublicServer> <Eoin> not used pre-entry etc since before PBS came out :D 17:44:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> relearn it:P 17:45:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 17:45:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you should never use pbs 17:45:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 17:45:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> unless ofcourse you should use it:P 17:46:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is rare 17:46:18 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> should be thought about, thats it 17:46:38 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 17:46:39 *** sharpy has quit IRC 17:46:47 <PublicServer> <Eoin> so have i used pre signals correctly? 17:46:53 <PublicServer> <Damalix> O_o a train :) 17:47:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> use them this way please :p 17:47:16 <PublicServer> <Eoin> that makes no sense to me but ok :P 17:47:23 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Could someone make a SLH at !SLH please ? :p 17:47:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes you?:D 17:47:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you only need pbs when there is no room to properly place presignals 17:47:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and that is only on cramped double bridges 17:48:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> some station designs work wonders with PBS ... but really, presignal only is enough 17:49:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> btw V, was the curve in the north what you had in mind? 17:49:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> which curve? 17:49:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> the massiv detour:P 17:49:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> fmauNeko? 17:49:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> to the goods drop 17:49:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes sure 17:50:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would it be detour 17:50:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> there go goods from NW 17:50:09 <Vitus> !password please 17:50:09 <PublicServer> Vitus: sauces 17:50:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh yeah, youre right:p 17:50:17 <PublicServer> <thgergo> damn Oil refineries can only built 48 tiles from edge... 17:50:25 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:50:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> thegergo, its oil goods, not oil drop^^ 17:51:16 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yeah:) 17:51:20 <PublicServer> <thgergo> then my problem solved 17:51:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 17:51:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> ODM: Steel Pickup has one nasty CL problem 17:52:01 <PublicServer> <Eoin> my junction at stop treeing this spot pls is ok? 17:52:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks mate 17:52:31 <PublicServer> <Eoin> 2 bridges? :| 17:52:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Good :) 17:52:45 <PublicServer> <Eoin> oh.. i get what u meant 17:53:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> there you go :p 17:53:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> prio 17:53:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> seems i a bit rusty 17:53:24 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i dont get how it works :P 17:53:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> presignals. 17:53:37 <PublicServer> <Eoin> mainline has prio, right? 17:53:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Any main hub that needs to be built? 17:53:47 <PublicServer> <Eoin> as it reserves the line from when it gets off the bridge? 17:54:51 <PublicServer> <Eoin> what do i call that then, SLH? 17:54:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 17:55:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt a normal SLH, but for the system 17:55:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> its good enough, the other way is a dead end^^ 17:55:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> and please use this convention 17:55:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> of signing 17:55:38 <Vitus> @gap 3 17:55:38 <Webster> Vitus: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 17:57:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> thisll be a weird game 17:57:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001630: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001630.png 17:57:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure 17:58:59 *** duckblaster has joined #openttdcoop 17:59:00 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 18:00:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> eoin: check !prio 18:00:32 <PublicServer> <Eoin> will do 18:00:37 <PublicServer> <Eoin> train 12 got correct orders? 18:00:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> now yes 18:01:06 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i was copying train 4 :D 18:01:39 <PublicServer> <Eoin> right, looking at pri 18:01:40 <PublicServer> <Eoin> o 18:02:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> its just the entry signal that has extra logics 18:02:24 <PublicServer> <Eoin> on the bottom loop 18:02:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> it looks at the exitsignals if there is at least 1 green 18:02:32 <PublicServer> <Eoin> when the top train triggers the signal, it has prio, right 18:02:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, if the train enters the trigger zone 18:03:06 <PublicServer> <Eoin> got it 18:03:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> thegergo still building?:O 18:03:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> its simply, there is only 1 exit signal 18:03:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> all exits red -> entry red 18:04:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> check the small demo above it 18:05:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> get it? 18:05:08 <PublicServer> <Eoin> im sure i do 18:05:25 <PublicServer> <Eoin> fmauneko, oil drop is complete, right? 18:05:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are just the combo signals 18:05:43 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yep, I just have to resignal the exit 18:05:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> but these are just the entry and exit signal combined 18:05:49 <PublicServer> <Eoin> shall i stop my trains for now then? 18:05:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And there are no refinery : d 18:05:52 <PublicServer> <Eoin> ROFL 18:06:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oooh, a train 18:06:17 <PublicServer> <Eoin> theres alot of them 18:06:20 <PublicServer> <Eoin> but ive tried to stop them :P 18:07:01 *** duckblaster has quit IRC 18:07:02 *** slaca has quit IRC 18:08:47 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ok, Oil pickups and drops are okay : d 18:09:20 <PublicServer> <Eoin> lets test :P 18:09:24 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 18:11:13 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:11:52 <PublicServer> <Damalix> :) 18:11:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:12:21 *** roboboy has quit IRC 18:12:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A934: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001A934.png 18:15:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, Why the oil goods train is a flatbed and the other ones are boxcars ? :p 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> cause it is nice :p 18:15:20 <PublicServer> <Eoin> Oil drop ready for trains? 18:15:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> flatbeds load quicker though 18:15:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or slower 18:15:28 <PublicServer> <Eoin> oil goods drop* 18:15:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Nope, it isn't 18:15:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there was a huge time difference though 18:15:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see later 18:16:45 <PublicServer> <Eoin> hmmm 18:16:54 <PublicServer> <Eoin> how will we get plenside #46 and plenide oilfield 18:17:21 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> We can't 18:17:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> V said no boats 18:17:38 <PublicServer> <Eoin> who says it needs a boat :) 18:17:42 <PublicServer> <Eoin> walk it to there? 18:17:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> ignore it? 18:18:08 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i thought the aim of #openttdcoop games was to service every industry 18:18:17 <PublicServer> <Eoin> but then again its probably not now that ive said that :P 18:18:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> why woul t 18:18:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is 18:18:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> every primary should be serviced 18:18:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it's more important to keep the network flowing :o 18:18:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:23:13 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 18:23:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do people connect only grain on farms? :D 18:23:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> there is already 1 mine connected 18:23:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> but not served I think 18:23:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: because the grain drop was the first finished 18:24:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:25:18 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 18:25:23 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 18:26:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fucking hell 18:26:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it just started pouring like hell 18:26:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes love? 18:27:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> and nothing else mateeeeeers 18:27:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003551F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003551F.png 18:28:34 <PublicServer> <Eoin> lol 18:28:41 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i just finished listening to that 18:29:51 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 18:29:51 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: CmdRemoveSingleSignal V453000 date:2033-07-11 tile:00035523 p1:00000005 p2:00000000 text: price:28 18:29:51 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2) 18:30:06 <V453000> what kind of borkness is this :o 18:30:15 <XeryusTC> :P 18:33:12 <PublicServer> <Eoin> uhm 18:33:20 <PublicServer> <Eoin> fmau 18:33:22 <PublicServer> <Eoin> bit of a problem 18:33:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> signals 18:33:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> Eoin: you can fix that 18:33:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> easily 18:33:47 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i didnt want to interfere with his stuff :P 18:33:54 <PublicServer> <Spike> this is basic stuff 18:34:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> everyone can fix that 18:34:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> WTF ? 18:34:23 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> What was the problem ? :p 18:34:28 <PublicServer> <Eoin> u had no signals 18:34:34 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oops :p 18:34:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Thanks 18:34:57 <PublicServer> <Eoin> i think thats right :| 18:35:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3 trains for a 6/month industry? 18:35:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 18:35:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> will increase 18:35:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> see? 18:35:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> 12 :P 18:35:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, 12 still isnt enough :P 18:35:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah now we need double ... 6 trains! 18:35:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:42:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> fmauNeko, you can add trains to your oil station 18:42:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00039832: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00039832.png 18:42:56 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Okay :p 18:42:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fmauNeko: you can connect your coal station like that too :P 18:43:06 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yep :p 18:43:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: the red boxcars are a little bit slower in unloading 18:43:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> but still good 18:43:43 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 18:43:48 <PublicServer> <Eoin> 5 oil rigs all on one station 18:43:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> f00d 18:43:51 <PublicServer> <Eoin> oil overload 18:48:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: wood drop doesnt support wood yet 18:48:37 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 18:48:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and that is also why unload orders arent a good idea :P 18:50:50 <PublicServer> <Eoin> 104 trains! 18:51:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> 20 trains at setchester oil field :o 18:51:20 <PublicServer> <Eoin> it was runnign fine with that many 18:51:26 <PublicServer> <Eoin> then they got a bit out of sync 18:51:27 <PublicServer> <Eoin> :( 18:51:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> production change 18:51:57 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 18:51:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> happens a lot 18:52:01 <PublicServer> <tneo> hello 18:52:02 <PublicServer> <Eoin> production has went up 18:52:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey tneo 18:52:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 18:52:34 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ohai tneo 18:55:52 <fmauneko> It's nom nom time :p 18:57:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E03B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001E03B.png 19:00:04 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 19:03:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: why wouldnt they be a good idea :) they only leave it there, network is unharmed 19:03:40 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 19:03:46 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 19:04:08 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 19:05:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh .. and the container wagons fit better with coal hopper unloading times :p 19:05:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V: could've gained some money off it on the next trip :P 19:06:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> who cares about money :) 19:06:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If only you could say the same about real life :D 19:06:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 19:08:41 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 19:13:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030547: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00030547.png 19:13:14 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 19:13:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey wb 19:13:33 <planetmaker> tneo: nice scenario quest actually... playing already half the evening :-P 19:13:46 <tneo> :-D 19:13:58 <tneo> been downloaded 30 times already 19:14:02 <V453000> where? 19:14:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 19:14:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> 2 downloads are know (I have one) 19:15:13 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 19:16:35 <avdg> hmm… it sure is not a train scenario :p 19:16:53 <tneo> where what V453000 ? 19:16:59 <V453000> nevermind :) 19:17:00 <V453000> I see now 19:18:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> woo trains 19:20:54 <avdg> hmm… is there an endyear in that scenario? 19:21:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> doubt that 19:21:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> would be stupid 19:21:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> but tbh I liked osqc 1 more :( 19:23:01 <tneo> no end year you can play for a month avdg though time will be an scorepoint :-) 19:23:29 <avdg> k 19:26:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm back. What have I missed ? 19:27:39 <avdg> hmm… I have already a bad start :p 19:27:57 <avdg> missing road pieces 19:28:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007862: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00007862.png 19:30:12 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 19:30:52 <tneo> well V453000 if you have input for a scn you know where to report 19:31:17 <V453000> I had something very similar to yours a while ago :) 19:32:46 <PublicServer> <Combuster> "maximal educational value" 19:33:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Should I leave everything to someone else 19:33:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you think? :) 19:33:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, come join :p 19:33:34 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, would a SLH at !SLH be worth it ? :p 19:34:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> why wouldnt it :) 19:34:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Maybe 19:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 19:34:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Are you going to build it? :) 19:34:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There's a handful of oil rigs near the oil drop 19:35:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:35:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'll give it a shot :p 19:35:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> ;) 19:35:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fmauNeko: ofcourse !slh is worth it 19:35:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There's no other SLH in the area (so far) 19:36:04 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 19:36:21 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 19:43:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001348D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001348D.png 19:48:30 <PublicServer> *** Eoin has left the game (leaving) 19:48:52 *** kriokam has joined #openttdcoop 19:49:05 <kriokam> !password 19:49:05 <PublicServer> kriokam: snoops 19:49:49 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 19:51:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Can someone check SLH09 and add prios ? :p 19:51:16 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi all 19:51:25 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi, kriokamera 19:51:50 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i 19:52:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> You ? 19:52:07 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes, i 19:52:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 19:52:30 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i have seen Jeff Beck 2 hours ago! 19:52:47 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where can i do something? 19:53:27 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> SLH 09 is new, connect some primaries :p 19:53:34 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> build smth, or else 19:54:18 *** heffer has quit IRC 19:56:42 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 19:58:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000126DB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000126DB.png 19:59:30 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> add prios to SLH 09? 19:59:57 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Feel free to do it :p 20:02:18 <PublicServer> <thgergo> lol tunshaw farm produces 6 item of livestock:P 20:03:19 <slaca> !proview 20:03:34 <slaca> !password 20:03:34 <PublicServer> slaca: hammed 20:03:49 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 20:03:54 <PublicServer> <slaca> re 20:05:06 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 20:07:56 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 20:08:36 *** Born_Acorn has quit IRC 20:12:40 *** Born_Acorn has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000112E8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000112E8.png 20:13:14 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hey! where can i do smth? 20:13:31 <PublicServer> <thgergo> everywhere 20:13:46 <PublicServer> <thgergo> we got a lot of unconnected things 20:15:47 <VVG> evening 20:15:49 <VVG> !players 20:15:51 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 191 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:51 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 188 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:51 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 88 (Orange) is tycoondemon, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:51 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 151 (Orange) is thgergo, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:51 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 147 (Orange) is fmauNeko, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:52 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 193 is slaca, a spectator 20:15:52 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 159 (Orange) is Damalix, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:54 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 160 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Closed Pool Transport) 20:15:54 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 20:15:57 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where at example? 20:15:59 <VVG> !info 20:15:59 <PublicServer> VVG: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Closed Pool Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 135302830 Loan: 0 Value: 179589057 (T:156, R:0, P:10, S:0) unprotected 20:16:03 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi 20:16:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi VVG 20:16:09 <VVG> 156 already? 0_o 20:16:16 <VVG> !password 20:16:16 <PublicServer> VVG: morose 20:16:27 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 20:17:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> why oh why there is no separate grf with signals from dbset? they so much better then defaults 20:18:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> anything major not built yet? 20:18:51 <PublicServer> <thgergo> we need more traffic 20:19:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Moar trains 20:19:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> If you want, I have some primaries to connect at SL9 20:22:56 <PublicServer> <VVG> do we have a service center? 20:23:42 <PublicServer> <thgergo> not yt 20:23:43 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yet 20:25:33 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> some trains waiting a full load. is it planned? 20:25:48 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah 20:26:05 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has joined spectators 20:26:08 <PublicServer> <VVG> you should wonder if they don't have a full load orders, that would be strange 20:26:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> and if they blocks station, they still would have to wait a full load? 20:26:34 <PublicServer> <VVG> yes 20:26:38 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay 20:27:05 <PublicServer> <VVG> station shouldn't have a lot of trains waiting to get into it, if it does - it means it has too many trains 20:28:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031BEA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031BEA.png 20:28:56 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:10 <avdg> hmm… I have a new concept of 'smart logics' 20:29:15 <avdg> gonna put a demo soon 20:31:16 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 20:34:07 <avdg> yay, it works... 20:34:25 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, I love V's monorail pipeline 20:34:37 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where is it? 20:34:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Thewood Heights 20:35:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's a sign? 20:35:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Trewood Heights* 20:35:56 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Station 20:36:00 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> found 20:36:04 <avdg> hmm… more testing needed 20:36:22 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what's that means? 20:36:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Eye candy :p 20:36:45 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> oh 20:37:40 <PublicServer> <VVG> what is that prio demo up north? 20:38:32 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> wanna ask 20:38:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> go ahead, don't be shy :p 20:43:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BDF1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002BDF1.png 20:44:20 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i did it myself. (water walls like around the steelmill nearby 'STEEL PICKUP') 20:44:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, a poldair 20:45:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, I'm going now 20:45:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> See ya ;) 20:45:21 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> bye! 20:45:24 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 20:46:04 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 20:46:08 <PublicServer> <Sepp> hi 20:47:55 <Combuster> I'm off for tonight 20:48:07 <Combuster> cya 20:48:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> the fun of expansion will start tomorrow at best i guess 20:49:41 *** perk11 has quit IRC 20:50:35 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i should connect as many as possible undistries to network. am i right? 20:50:44 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:50:47 <fmauneko> Primaries only :p 20:50:48 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yes but only via SLH 20:50:58 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay 20:51:08 <VVG> only primaries and only via slhs :) 20:52:38 *** gleeb has quit IRC 20:53:48 *** gleeb has joined #openttdcoop 20:56:07 *** Combuster has quit IRC 20:58:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A3EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001A3EB.png 20:58:24 <avdg> hmm.. the new stuff needs some harder investigation :p 20:59:04 <VVG> more eyes and brains make further investigation easier 20:59:15 <avdg> yeah, I'll come soon 20:59:32 <avdg> its the bad results that holds me 21:00:04 <avdg> I'm now trying a simplified version that does work 21:01:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:01:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> o/ 21:01:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> \o 21:01:31 *** damalix has quit IRC 21:01:33 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost) 21:01:35 <avdg> !password 21:01:35 <PublicServer> avdg: arenas 21:01:41 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:01:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:02:05 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:02:17 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> oh fck 21:02:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> You the first one to use that kind of greeting outsite of eve i see 21:02:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 21:03:05 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i hate closing industrys 21:03:07 <XeryusTC> !password 21:03:07 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: arenas 21:03:12 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:03:36 <PublicServer> <thgergo> nice invention for oil pipes:D 21:04:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who made those depots at slh 7? 21:04:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> meee 21:04:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with eol turn around :( 21:04:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're not giving a good example :o 21:04:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> its just a depot ... 21:04:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know :P 21:04:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:05:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but still, some people think that if it's right in one case it is always right :o 21:05:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know :) 21:05:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> them, sideways ;) 21:05:46 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 21:05:46 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you are not allowed to use !rcon 21:05:52 *** XeryusTC has left #openttdcoop 21:05:52 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 21:05:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 21:05:53 <Webster> The third coop bot 21:05:55 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 21:05:56 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2) 21:05:59 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> stop. pipes are really moves oil?? 21:06:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no 21:06:14 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 1 21:06:19 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2 21:06:19 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: CmdRemoveRailroadTrack avdg date:2044-12-21 tile:000342B8 p1:000342B7 p2:00000081 text: price:-106 21:06:35 <XeryusTC> :o 21:06:42 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> but why oil rigs have a 70%-80% of transorted? 21:06:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> station walking 21:07:01 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> oh. 21:07:12 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i am stupid. 21:07:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> possibly 21:07:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah, you need practice 21:07:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> VVG: refunded that forest 21:07:37 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i play here first time =) 21:07:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> which one? 21:07:54 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 21:07:57 <sharpy> !password 21:07:57 <PublicServer> sharpy: arenas 21:08:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ 1hp trains 21:08:18 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 21:08:30 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> now i gonna go. bye! 21:08:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> Tillistoke common? 21:08:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah 21:08:57 <PublicServer> <VVG> didn't see it die :( 21:09:02 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (leaving) 21:09:15 <PublicServer> <VVG> it was alive when i finished there, nasty forest 21:11:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> vvg: check !lab 21:11:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> sec 21:13:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 21:14:43 <PublicServer> <VVG> i don't get it 21:14:48 <PublicServer> <VVG> what's that supposed to do? 21:14:51 <PublicServer> <thgergo> neither do I 21:15:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> it knows the source of the train 21:15:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> train lenght splitter 21:15:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> and use it to determ the route on the next split 21:15:46 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 21:16:12 <PublicServer> <VVG> never used lenght splitters or srnws 21:16:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> is this some kind of upgraded version of splitters mentioned on wiki? 21:17:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, do you have the url? 21:17:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> no 21:17:55 <PublicServer> <thgergo> steel pickup and drop are one station? 21:18:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> i tried with some memories, but its tricky 21:18:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> click on the stations to see :p 21:18:28 <PublicServer> <thgergo> now I get it:D 21:19:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> but don't forget that there are multiple train travelling on it 21:19:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> on what? 21:19:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> on that shared track 21:20:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe it is the same as Mark did 21:20:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> a new idea is to use a memory witha counter 21:20:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> v: possible 21:20:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> see his userpage for these train length splitters 21:20:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> no, its not a length splitter 21:20:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> then what is it 21:20:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a direction memory 21:20:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> and I want to use it on longer distance 21:20:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, that tells me nothing 21:21:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> can be usefull if you have multiple cargo on a srnw 21:21:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> trains are dump, so you need to stear them by network 21:21:22 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 21:21:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, what does it do and how then 21:22:01 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (connection lost) 21:22:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> lets say, we have coal trains and oil trains 21:22:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> since we don't want to wast space, we are using smart tracks 21:22:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> so we share 1 rail 21:23:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> but we don't want coal on the oil line at the next split 21:23:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> and multiple trains can share the track at the same moment 21:24:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> so 21:24:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> now, you wnat some kind of a smart counter that will do the splitting? 21:24:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the element that recognizes trains 21:24:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> the signal logics 21:24:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> and how do signal logics differ for oil and coal trains 21:24:49 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 21:25:01 <sharpy> !password 21:25:01 <PublicServer> sharpy: lapped 21:25:10 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 21:25:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, the best idea now, is to use a 2 counters and a memory 21:25:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 counter at the start and 1 at the end 21:25:44 <PublicServer> <thgergo> trains might use Wood-grain drop to take sortcut I think 21:25:52 <PublicServer> <sharpy> i think i am starting to get it... 21:25:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> the memory size depends on how many trains can enter on the line 21:26:02 <PublicServer> <thgergo> when the come from north to south 21:26:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> thgergo: dunno 21:26:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> might :) 21:26:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> did any go through yet? 21:26:47 <PublicServer> <thgergo> not yet 21:27:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> they dont :) 21:27:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !challenge if you want to try :p 21:28:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034AB6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00034AB6.png 21:28:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> makes no sense to me yet 21:28:45 <PublicServer> <sharpy> no i thought i was getting somewhere, i am now lost again 21:29:12 *** slaca has quit IRC 21:29:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> the challenge now is to get all coal train to the coal exit and oil trains to the oil 21:29:29 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it lets the splitter to know where the train came from? 21:29:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 21:29:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh so 21:30:03 <PublicServer> <thgergo> but then the idea is useless just dont connect tracks? 21:30:10 <Yso> !password 21:30:10 <PublicServer> Yso: unwind 21:30:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> i recall seeing a forum topic where someone, iirc mark, post a srnw save game. And there was guy replied later, with a multiple cargo srnw game. I never bothered to check savegames, but sisnce you got onto this, it might be helpful toyou 21:30:23 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 21:31:30 <PublicServer> * avdg wishes more logic stuff in openttd :p 21:31:58 <PublicServer> <thgergo> maybe programmable signals? 21:32:08 <Osai> !playercount 21:32:08 <PublicServer> Osai: Number of players: 10 21:32:17 <V453000> heeyyy Osai 21:32:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'll check the forum 21:32:35 <Osai> wow... that was fast 21:32:39 <Osai> hi V453000 21:33:04 <V453000> hi hi :) 21:33:09 <Osai> just sniffing a little bit :P 21:33:22 <Osai> saw some nice blog posts and wiki edits 21:33:33 <V453000> you might want to check PZ ... not much to see yet but it is a concept coming from the failsafe joiners :p 21:33:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have tried with simple array of memories, but that failed yet 21:33:55 <Osai> hehe, cool 21:34:13 <V453000> and with all that hybrid etc. development I did a while ago :p 21:34:38 <Osai> so it also includes SML stuff 21:34:47 <V453000> it is based purely on SML 21:34:56 <VVG> interesting 21:35:01 <XeryusTC> yarr Osai 21:35:02 <Osai> yea, thats where we ended up 21:35:07 <VVG> are non-members allowed to spectate PZ games? 21:35:23 <XeryusTC> VVG: currently not 21:35:51 <VVG> such a pity 21:35:51 <Osai> maybe I'll have some time to fly in 21:35:59 <Osai> would be cool 21:36:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:36:13 <V453000> im flying noaw :) 21:36:18 <Osai> hehe :P 21:37:13 <V453000> Osai: I just found 2 ways how to get rid of those gaps fullspeed SML makes ... a) making hybrid joiners and b) timing and synchronizing everything together ... this is b) 21:39:30 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 21:41:12 <kriokam> !password 21:41:12 <PublicServer> kriokam: unwind 21:41:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> removed MM 21:41:26 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 21:41:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> my brain can't follo now 21:42:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 21:42:21 <PublicServer> <thgergo> i think i try it without any counter just one train memory 21:42:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, building a memory isn't simple without a layout 21:43:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> each memory needs a train as setter :/ 21:43:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035AAE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035AAE.png 21:44:49 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 21:46:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> use waypoints instead of fancy logic :p 21:46:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, but wp have only a range of max 64 (same as stations have) 21:46:42 <PublicServer> <VVG> use different waypoints 21:46:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> and if you to make them dump, you want to use 1 order 21:47:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> non non-stop orders and waypoints 21:50:34 <PublicServer> <VVG> the faster trains are accelerating the shorter prio needs to be, right? 21:50:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 21:51:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> just imagen you have trains with 1 hp and trains with 10000 hp :p 21:51:24 <PublicServer> <VVG> i guess i need to try maglev game sometimes 21:53:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:53:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats not a real memory :p 21:53:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> it can only remember 1 stage 21:53:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> reversed :) 21:54:19 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 21:54:22 *** Yso has quit IRC 21:56:41 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 21:58:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031ED0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031ED0.png 22:01:44 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> is it any way to find unconnected industries faster? 22:01:57 <PublicServer> <thgergo> open indrustries dialog 22:02:06 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and sort them by transported cargo 22:02:15 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> tnx 22:03:58 <Mazur> And reverse the sort, makes it easier. 22:09:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> thgergo: do you know how the current memory is constructed? 22:09:40 <PublicServer> <thgergo> ? 22:09:48 <PublicServer> <thgergo> im not expert is those 22:09:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh, nvm then 22:10:08 <PublicServer> <thgergo> but this just works: 22:10:09 <PublicServer> <thgergo> :P 22:10:15 <PublicServer> <thgergo> 22:10:16 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:10:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... 22:10:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:10:57 <PublicServer> <thgergo> but the clock train can be bugged 22:11:27 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 22:11:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, its now a simple switcher I guess 22:11:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> but the traffic should go random 22:11:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> and possible multiple trains are using the same track 22:12:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> hard isn't it? :p 22:12:29 <PublicServer> <thgergo> the problem is it can be buggy 22:12:36 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and only one bit of memory 22:12:39 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it has 22:13:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> What are you guys working on? 22:13:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035AB1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035AB1.png 22:13:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, I see it. 22:13:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> if we have a good memory, we could create a memory pool with 2 counters 22:14:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 for the entrance, 1 for the exit 22:14:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> What's hte goal? 22:15:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> thgergo: 1 combo is enough :p 22:15:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> to build a splitter wich is smart enough to remember the source of the train 22:15:58 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I want to let it store 2 trains 22:16:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> I am already thinking about a memory pool 22:16:30 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well go ahead do it:D 22:16:44 <PublicServer> <thgergo> i will stick with only two trains:D 22:16:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> I just forgot how to build 1 :p 22:18:07 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:18:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !memory 22:18:49 <avdg> I'm watching http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37902&start=60 now 22:18:51 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - LED counter (at www.tt-forums.net) 22:19:01 <avdg> it can has usefull information 22:19:45 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:15 <avdg> here: a memory pool :p http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=93940 22:20:41 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (leaving) 22:20:49 <kriokam> bye! 22:20:53 *** kriokam has quit IRC 22:22:25 <avdg> hmm.. the memory I found is kinda big 22:28:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000364B8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000364B8.png 22:29:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> whohoo? 22:30:20 <VVG> choochoo! 22:31:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:32:10 <VVG> any succes with your counter? 22:32:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> counter is easy :p 22:32:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> memory is a bit harder if we have to read our input 22:33:01 <Ammler> someone already tested GRFPack 8.0? 22:33:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> :o new grf pack? 22:33:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ammler: you? :P 22:33:24 <Ammler> not really :-P 22:34:11 *** perk11 has quit IRC 22:35:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a big memory :o 22:39:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... optimized memory? 22:43:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000370A9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000370A9.png 22:43:59 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 22:46:56 *** Vitus has quit IRC 22:49:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 22:49:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:58:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035CAB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035CAB.png 22:58:42 *** duckblaster has joined #openttdcoop 22:58:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> thgergo: found any better memory then !memory? 22:59:25 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 22:59:54 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well not yet:P 23:00:14 <PublicServer> <thgergo> its better than my old one train approach 23:00:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> size and complexity is hard to beat 23:00:39 <duckblaster> !password 23:00:39 <PublicServer> duckblaster: whirls 23:00:48 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and this layout cant deadlocked 23:00:59 <PublicServer> <thgergo> due of late choices 23:01:17 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 23:01:21 <PublicServer> <thgergo> now im doing a simple netagor 23:01:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey duck 23:01:44 <Mazur> @gap 3 23:01:44 <Webster> Mazur: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 23:04:49 <PublicServer> <thgergo> any better negator than "!negator"? 23:04:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have something, but it still need some thinking 23:05:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> it relies on the or princible 23:05:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> but it needs a fast not 23:07:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> but still needs an and and thats the buster in this one 23:08:06 <duckblaster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOR_logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAND_logic 23:08:07 <Webster> Title: NOR logic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 23:08:10 <duckblaster> those help? 23:08:36 <avdg> nor isn't a simple gate to build small 23:08:42 <avdg> and I think nand neither 23:10:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have another gate, it uses 3 trains, but is stuck with a prio 23:11:07 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:11:49 <PublicServer> <thgergo> at last my negator works perfect 23:12:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> a simple not? :p 23:12:09 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yes 23:12:16 <duckblaster> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2008/06/17/the-insane-led-counter-logic-gates-part-1/ 23:12:16 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I have to start somewhere:D 23:12:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats new? 23:12:18 <duckblaster> try that 23:12:45 <avdg> nothing new 23:13:15 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000350D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000350D9.png 23:14:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah, it won't work 23:17:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> these memories won't work, since they need an 'active write' 23:18:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> @!memory, the part in the maglev track replaces the small memory 23:20:16 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:22:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> that will still be a 1bit counter 23:27:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anything going on? 23:28:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> the !memory problem :p 23:28:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000340D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000340D5.png 23:28:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what's the problem with memories? 23:29:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> its hard to make a small one that doens't require a 'hard write' (train driving over it) 23:30:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 23:30:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah 23:31:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> created some steel and goods trains 23:34:28 <puk> !help 23:34:28 <PublicServer> puk: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 23:34:31 <duckblaster> more logic gates: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37902 23:34:32 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - LED counter (at www.tt-forums.net) 23:34:53 <avdg> already saw that 23:35:14 <duckblaster> seems like a lot of work 23:35:36 <puk> !tunnel 8 3 23:35:36 <PublicServer> puk: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 8 and gap 3. 23:35:47 <puk> !tunnel 3 8 23:35:47 <PublicServer> puk: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 8. 23:35:52 <puk> xD 23:39:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 23:39:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> will that work? :p 23:40:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> you don't always need 2 combos 23:40:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> even 1 1way combo is enough 23:42:27 <puk> !tunnel 3 9 23:42:27 <PublicServer> puk: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 9. 23:42:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm idea 23:42:37 <puk> awesome 23:42:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> the memory that wite itself 23:42:43 <puk> !tunnel 3 11 23:42:43 <PublicServer> puk: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 11. 23:42:55 <puk> (sorry for the spam guys) 23:43:04 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:43:05 <puk> !tunnel 3 10 23:43:05 <PublicServer> puk: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 10. 23:43:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 23:43:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm spamming too 23:43:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000364D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000364D7.png 23:43:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah 23:43:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> lack of a write 23:47:33 <PublicServer> <thgergo> ive made the counter 23:47:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> ah 23:48:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where? 23:48:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> but don't we need 2 counters? 23:49:16 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and they need 23:49:26 <PublicServer> <thgergo> more than 2 counters:P 23:49:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 23:49:55 <PublicServer> <thgergo> if i want to make the challange 23:50:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, but now, the exit still doesn't know at wich memory it has to look at 23:53:25 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 23:54:42 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 23:56:57 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:57:54 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 23:58:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000374BD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000374BD.png