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00:00:41 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:00:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, lets go over and laugh at him. 00:00:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> >:-) 00:01:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is how you do it 00:02:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what do you think? 00:02:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I do not think. 00:02:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm just admiring. 00:03:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then that is expandable for ever 00:03:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and ever 00:03:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and ever and ever and ever 00:03:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and ever 00:04:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I will leave my idea 00:04:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If those industries keep out of the way, that is. 00:04:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol yes 00:04:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and its within the station spread 00:05:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I think that is what phoenix was getting at 00:05:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Might very well be. 00:06:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it work almost as well as a ro-ro but take up way more room 00:06:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if I could think of a way to shrink it 00:06:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> without loosing proformance it would be amazing 00:06:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, it would be bloody amazing. 00:06:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> A fscking miracle. 00:07:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000117DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000117DF.png 00:07:42 <phoenix_> yes, that looks quite facinating 00:07:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in places the tracks are triple stacked 00:08:12 <phoenix_> never thought of placing the platforms on different levels 00:08:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well like your randoms its just an idea 00:08:40 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 00:16:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, I'm off. 00:16:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> See you tomorrow, likely. 00:16:25 <phoenix_> bye 00:16:26 <PublicServer> <Sylf> cya 00:16:29 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 00:31:31 <PublicServer> <phoenix> anyone still building something? 00:31:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> not me 00:31:48 <PublicServer> <phoenix> else im of for today 00:32:03 <PublicServer> <phoenix> +f 00:32:51 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well then, good night. 00:33:09 <PublicServer> *** phoenix has left the game (leaving) 00:33:09 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:46:27 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 01:05:57 <PublicServer> *** notch has left the game (leaving) 02:19:59 *** phoenix_ has quit IRC 04:15:32 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 04:24:11 *** Mark has quit IRC 05:48:25 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 06:48:32 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 06:48:54 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 06:50:13 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 06:50:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 06:52:42 <Tray> !password 06:52:42 <PublicServer> Tray: hooter 06:53:01 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 06:53:04 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 06:55:27 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 06:57:36 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 07:37:03 *** Pewpsocher has joined #openttdcoop 07:37:42 <Pewpsocher> Hello. 07:37:45 <Pewpsocher> @quickstart 07:37:46 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 07:40:54 *** Pewpsocher has left #openttdcoop 07:41:20 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:48:48 *** Pewpsocher has joined #openttdcoop 07:49:12 <Pewpsocher> !help 07:49:12 <PublicServer> Pewpsocher: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 07:53:13 *** Pewpsocher has quit IRC 07:53:48 <planetmaker> lol? 07:57:10 *** Pewpsocher has joined #openttdcoop 08:20:56 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:13 *** Tray|2 has joined #openttdcoop 08:36:39 *** Tray has quit IRC 08:45:39 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 09:13:50 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 09:19:54 *** Tray|2 has quit IRC 09:58:58 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 09:59:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 10:03:23 *** Chrill has joined #openttdcoop 10:36:48 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 10:38:26 *** Tray has quit IRC 10:39:20 <Pewpsocher> !password 10:39:20 <PublicServer> Pewpsocher: hooter 10:39:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:39:31 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 10:40:32 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:40:55 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 10:41:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:41:57 <PublicServer> *** Pewpsocher joined the game 10:43:12 <PublicServer> *** Pewpsocher has left the game (leaving) 10:52:53 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 10:54:11 *** Chrill has quit IRC 10:54:23 *** Tray has quit IRC 11:14:20 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 11:29:42 *** sla_ro|vista has joined #openttdcoop 11:30:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:34:24 <V453000> !password 11:34:24 <PublicServer> V453000: hooter 11:34:42 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:34:43 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:48:09 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 11:52:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F82D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F82D.png 11:52:50 *** xineohp has joined #openttdcoop 11:53:14 <xineohp> !password 11:53:14 <PublicServer> xineohp: beeves 11:53:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:53:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:53:44 <PublicServer> *** phoenix joined the game 11:53:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi:) 11:53:58 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hey 12:07:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D436: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D436.png 12:11:04 *** `real has quit IRC 12:11:26 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 12:22:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011046: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011046.png 12:37:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001143E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001143E.png 12:42:57 <PublicServer> *** notch joined the game 12:42:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:44:18 <SmatZ> hello V453000 12:44:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 12:52:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D233: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D233.png 12:59:26 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 13:01:48 <Mazur> !passworf 13:01:50 <Mazur> !password 13:01:50 <PublicServer> Mazur: dorsal 13:02:08 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:02:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 13:02:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Moar ning. 13:02:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> (Note to self: it's afternoon, dummy.) 13:02:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> the Moar still applies though :p 13:03:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Always does. 13:05:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> phoenix awake or only present? 13:05:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets start with the pax net? 13:05:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Could do. 13:05:44 <PublicServer> <phoenix> im here, and awake ;) 13:06:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Goodly. 13:06:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Meesa curiosa about the factory stations. 13:07:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010431: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010431.png 13:20:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> going :p 13:21:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh. 13:22:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 13:22:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C18E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000C18E.png 13:23:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was going to change to a proper SLH. 13:23:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, feel free to :) 13:23:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And make roo for a prio. 13:23:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> room 13:30:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> phoenix: want to help with something? setting up the pax network is very simple :) come have a go 13:36:33 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 13:37:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008D85: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008D85.png 13:44:05 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 13:45:19 <phatmatt> !download 13:45:19 <PublicServer> phatmatt: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 13:45:19 <PublicServer> phatmatt: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22255 13:45:24 <phatmatt> !download win32 13:45:24 <PublicServer> phatmatt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22255/openttd-trunk-r22255-windows-win32.zip 13:45:45 <planetmaker> !dl osx 13:45:45 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22255/openttd-trunk-r22255-macosx-universal.zip 13:52:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000537B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000537B.png 13:53:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx :) 13:53:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> yw 13:54:17 <phatmatt> !password 13:54:17 <PublicServer> phatmatt: dolled 13:54:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 13:54:46 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 13:54:54 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> hey 13:55:19 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i used to lurk here a while ago.. like a year.. so I'm a little rusty, just gonna spec for now :) 13:55:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I remember you of course :p welcome back 13:55:32 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> oh haha 13:55:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, PH. 13:56:58 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop 13:57:02 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 13:58:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want to build something simple, there are towns to connect ;) 13:58:32 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> maybe in a bit :P 14:02:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BLO connected and running. 14:02:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> good :) 14:03:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, you added all of the connections right away I see 14:03:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw ... we always use unaccessible depots, I guess you heard that ;) 14:04:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, sorry, no brain acitivity yet. Only second cup of coffee. 14:04:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> happens :) 14:07:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001648D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001648D.png 14:09:55 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 14:10:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm taking the BLO-NAN tain out again, as they are both on the same SL. 14:10:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? :) 14:10:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah, well that can be done, no problems 14:10:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It takes a grand tour and then only makes less than a $ 1.000. 14:10:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> any connections are ok 14:10:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, I'll leave iut it. 14:10:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, you didnt make connection between those 14:10:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm .. :) 14:11:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> then delete the train 14:11:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, add ceonnection. 14:11:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) 14:11:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did not add VER - LIS either ... no point there 14:13:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, that was erasier than I thought. 14:13:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:13:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I got to use a tile 3 deep. :-D 14:14:58 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has joined company #1 14:19:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> Health for your skin. 14:19:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vichy connected 14:20:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya, VIC. 14:20:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, VCH. 14:20:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Same principle. 14:20:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 14:20:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gonna take a bath, then. 14:20:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D ok 14:22:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A1DC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A1DC.png 14:32:39 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 14:36:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> cargo SLH 01 is up :) 14:37:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008ADD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008ADD.png 14:37:30 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 14:37:53 <phatmatt> !password 14:37:53 <PublicServer> phatmatt: whiffs 14:38:19 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 14:40:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Tours up and running. 14:43:10 <V453000> !password 14:43:10 <PublicServer> V453000: whiffs 14:46:26 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2 14:48:28 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 14:52:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000024AC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000024AC.png 14:57:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> bastards 15:07:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000028A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000028A1.png 15:08:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:09:04 <V453000> !password 15:09:04 <PublicServer> V453000: damper 15:09:21 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:10:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:10:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:14:44 *** Tray has quit IRC 15:22:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EA75: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EA75.png 15:23:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeeah 15:23:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> we won again 15:29:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:29:06 <V453000> !password 15:29:06 <PublicServer> V453000: nipple 15:29:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:35:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, we are still missing the factory :( 15:37:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F078: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F078.png 15:37:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: want to build it? :) 15:38:06 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 15:38:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi, coming to build the factory? :) 15:38:28 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi :-) 15:38:43 <PublicServer> <phoenix> then build it ... if have not found a single terminus station, that would not clog up under massive traffic 15:38:49 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> mostly just watching. I don't have much time at hands right now :-( 15:38:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 15:39:01 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but where? 15:39:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> west 15:39:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> phoenix: as I said, _every_ station design works, you only need to make it properly, and eventually large enough 15:40:21 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... LL_RR terminus? 15:40:25 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm, not really my designs all jam on exit 15:40:25 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> TL3? 15:40:31 <PublicServer> <phoenix> yes 15:40:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, any station, no need to be terminus 15:40:42 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah 15:40:52 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then I'd build a classic PSB one 15:41:00 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or semi-classic 15:41:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> :| 15:41:40 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well, that's why I asked. What is desired? 15:41:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything :) but you know that PSB can easily break 15:42:00 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> psb? 15:42:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:42:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> I already showed you that :) 15:42:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> anytime 2 trains come too close together and they are just unlucky, it blocks 15:42:46 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's why you got some waiting space in front of platforms and semi-classic 15:43:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> ehh ... lets show it again ;) 15:43:34 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then please do :-) 15:44:10 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Station_goods_drop_ottdcoop.png lets consider this screenshot which is the original one 15:44:25 <V453000> now look at the second train from the right 15:44:39 <V453000> (the first one completely visible one) 15:44:57 <V453000> and tell me, which platform will it take :) 15:46:01 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 15:46:01 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: wafted 15:46:19 <V453000> the answer simple: there is not a platform for that train, therefore it was released into the station when it should not have been, which is a by-design flaw of PSB 15:46:21 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 15:46:26 <phatmatt> !password 15:46:26 <PublicServer> phatmatt: wafted 15:46:49 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 15:47:01 <V453000> with longer trains or shorter PSB arrays it of course does not influence anything as long as the trains can occupy the whole array 15:47:15 <V453000> you see pm? :) 15:47:30 <planetmaker> Indeed I do. But I don't remember seeing this before. 15:47:45 <V453000> I saw it many times unfortunately 15:48:17 <V453000> but still, what keeps you from dividing the track into 2 in the very start of the station, so you do not need any PSB (or a short one) later? :) 15:48:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> just like for example the current oil drop is made 15:49:25 <planetmaker> well. My semi-classic looks a bit different where that is less likely to occur. 15:49:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> build it :) 15:50:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I can be your slave if you need it quickly ;) 15:51:40 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> see !like here 15:51:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am watching it all the time 15:51:48 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the two entry lines from the right 15:51:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok :-) 15:52:13 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there trains can always wait somewhat, if it's too busy and it better mixes tracks 15:52:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000121DD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000121DD.png 15:52:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, sure 15:52:26 *** lasershock` has quit IRC 15:52:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:52:34 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> do we need pickup and drop? 15:52:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> both 15:52:48 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then I'd make the pickup terminus ;-) 15:53:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything you like :) 15:53:33 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... /me ponders 15:53:48 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the terrain might be more suited for a terminus. What do you think? 15:54:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think one of each would do best 15:54:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> k 15:54:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on the actual design :) 15:54:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:54:42 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (leaving) 15:54:45 <V453000> !password 15:54:45 <PublicServer> V453000: canoed 15:54:53 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> How many tracks for pickup? 15:54:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (general error) 15:55:07 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 15:55:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:55:12 <V453000> tracks? well, 2 would be nice 15:55:13 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> ok 15:55:18 <V453000> but expect low load on 2 15:55:21 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Station tracks 15:55:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> hate telling that :) well, 8 should do 15:55:56 <V453000> @ABR07 15:55:57 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 07: Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/28/advanced-building-revue-07-stations/ 15:56:08 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I plan on ending SW PAX at Bayonne. Is this OK, or should I include Charolles? 15:56:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well, normally it's 6...8 / line. 15:56:18 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but pickup... oh well 15:56:32 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> could need additional ones. waiting for full load and stuff 15:56:33 <V453000> 1. Platform Count What is usually the first question someone asks before building a station? “How many platforms per line?” Stations Please note that this sentence makes no sense until you provide all important information on which the platform count actually depends! Basically every station design requires different platform counts. ... 15:56:39 <V453000> from ABR07 :p 15:58:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> may we just remove the other tracks? 15:58:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> the mess?:) sure 15:58:28 <hylje> so if we have a line that reaches max capacity 15:58:51 <hylje> and every train will stop to full load 16:00:01 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bah 16:00:07 <hylje> there's a maximum amount of platforms 16:01:03 <V453000> hylje: of course there is a maximum amount of platforms. But that number changes with trains, changes with station design, changes with so many aspects that when someone asks "how many platforms?" you cannot really tell him 16:01:45 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... where to get the 2nd line... 16:03:01 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's way easier, incoming is | or --- 16:03:13 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's actually... needed 16:03:31 <hylje> i wasn't aware of train loading times varying greatly depending on train size 16:03:43 <hylje> different cargo tends to have different capacities and loading rates? 16:03:58 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wagons may differ 16:04:10 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> how many drop do we want? 16? 16:04:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but not only that, if the last signals before platforms are far away, of course you need more platforms than when the signals are right in front of it 16:04:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> 18 might be even for about 4 lines I would saz 16:04:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> say 16:05:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> note that a part of the 2 lines goes to the pickup, if we consider 3 lines in total, I would expect about 2 lines going to drop only 16:05:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> which could take ... 12? 16:05:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> again, depends how you build it 16:05:34 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> which part? 16:05:44 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'd put the split somewhere in the existing track 16:05:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see that since my sawmill drop has no balancing and quite far distances to the platforms, I made 8 platforms per line, which is quite a lot 16:06:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:07:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F3CF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F3CF.png 16:11:03 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> BAY now open for PAX 16:11:04 <V453000> bah, bluescreen of death :D 16:11:19 <V453000> !password 16:11:19 <PublicServer> V453000: optima 16:11:30 <Lukeus_Maximus> lol 16:11:43 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:11:47 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-O @ V 16:12:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> Lukeus Maximus: why so long gaps in front of the station? 16:12:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw the PBS has no reason 16:12:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V453000: no I think I have it sorted. Feel free to help now, if you like 16:12:59 <Lukeus_Maximus> hmm 16:13:00 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> you know the concept. whereever you like :-) 16:13:01 <Lukeus_Maximus> where? 16:13:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 16:13:18 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> oh right 16:13:24 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> sorry, that was lgacy support 16:13:30 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> *legacy 16:13:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> just noting ;) 16:13:34 *** lasershock has joined #openttdcoop 16:13:56 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> Is the PBS automatic then? 16:14:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 16:14:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> just make it with presignals, no reason for PBS 16:14:28 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> PBS meaning (because Ivorgot) 16:14:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> path signals 16:14:41 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> right 16:14:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: btw the PBS signals in front of platforms are also needless :) the 1 block "cross" has higher throughput than 2 platforms, therefore it suffices :) 16:15:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hu? 16:16:20 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> one train waiting space in front of x 16:16:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes sure :) 16:16:52 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V453000: but pbs allows both to be filled simultaneiously 16:16:57 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's faster 16:17:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> in total it isnt 16:17:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 platforms are the bottlenec 16:17:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> bottleneck 16:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> not the X :) 16:17:52 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and you need an additional track tile with block signals 16:17:52 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> long bays are not so long now 16:17:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> good :) 16:19:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> 14 should be enough :) 16:19:10 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I'll proceed to make a station in Lyon 16:19:16 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we can do 15. it's ok 16:19:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> good :) 16:19:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> 15? :) 16:19:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have expected an even number :p 16:20:02 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-) 16:20:12 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 16 I mean 16:20:25 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, though, better not 16:20:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 14 is fine already :) 16:22:13 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> is spamming trees the accepted method of making towns like you? 16:22:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EFD6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EFD6.png 16:23:59 <notch> trains stuck @ slh02 16:24:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, sorry, V, I took a break before I'd connect every last town on the map before anyone else had a shot. 16:24:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks 16:24:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: ? :) 16:25:00 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> entry done, eh? 16:25:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> seeems like it 16:25:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You asked, if I wanted to build the last drop/pickup. I gave no answer, as I was AFBNTK, but did not pay attention enough. 16:25:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah :) 16:26:10 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> balancing is done on the entry. Exit should mostly be fine 16:26:13 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or same scheme? 16:26:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 16:26:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The answer would have been "No.", anyway. I came uop blank on ideas. 16:26:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> as you want, both options are fine 16:32:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> money! :D 16:33:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm, trains choosing at PBS? :D 16:34:08 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> they automatically do depending on load 16:34:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably :) 16:35:04 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and both again can exit at the same time ;-) 16:35:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> which you do not need since 2 trains cannot enter the station at the same timeeither ;) 16:35:47 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's why I'd use there pbs, too 16:36:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, and since it isnt needed in front of the station, it isnt needed in the exit either ;) 16:36:21 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well, I don't see how it's not needed in the front 16:36:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> I already said, the throughput of a single "X" is _higher_ than the throughput of 2 platforms 16:36:52 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> because both tracks, trains will turn to the first station. Thus one will have to wait 16:37:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D4F9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001D4F9.png 16:37:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm, yes 16:37:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> but they will wait sooner or later 16:37:48 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not necessarily 16:38:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but eventually there will be trains who stop. But... this way sooner IMHO 16:38:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> the same 16:38:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> the platform couple is the bottleneck 16:38:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> not the X 16:38:42 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 16:39:25 <Vinnie_nl> planetmaker: you got your donation from CB 16:39:56 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> Is AUR growing due to awesome PAX or because of goods? 16:40:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no goods coming yet 16:40:14 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> PAX it is. 16:40:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> it should not get much higher unless all other towns are connected and well serviced 16:42:31 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> gadzooks fellows! 16:42:37 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> we're strapped for cash! 16:43:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> as soon as we get some cargo running it will be better :) 16:44:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> pm ran away :( 16:46:31 <planetmaker> nah, sorry 16:46:34 <planetmaker> battery ran empty. Quite suddenly ;-) 16:46:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 16:47:14 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has joined spectators 16:50:25 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 16:50:44 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> so 16:50:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> fund the factory where-ever you like ;) I will start sending stuff 16:50:54 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> how the heck are we doing oil? 16:51:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> Lukeus Maximus: how would we, the heck? :) 16:51:15 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'd say at !factory 16:51:19 <PublicServer> <phoenix> any suggestions what i could/should build? 16:51:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> farm connection at SLH 02 16:51:41 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or did you talk to me, V453000? 16:51:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: for example :) any 16:51:55 <PublicServer> <phoenix> thx, k 16:51:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, to others :) 16:52:03 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wait... factory coal drop? 16:52:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 16:52:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000012DA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000012DA.png 16:52:29 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we're too poor to fund it 16:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D we suck 16:52:37 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we're nearly bancrupt 16:55:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess we could/should cheat some money so we do not wait and stare :) 16:56:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:56:08 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nah. It's fine IMHO 16:56:23 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> please don't 16:56:46 <V453000> :( 16:56:56 <V453000> we are just waiting and doing nothing 16:57:03 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 16:57:05 <V453000> !password 16:57:05 <PublicServer> V453000: bolder 16:57:10 <Chris_Booth> more MM V453000 ? 16:57:26 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there you go 16:57:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:57:31 <V453000> MM gets deleted later anyway 16:57:42 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but was it already deleted? 16:57:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:58:26 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> anyway go send trains 16:58:31 *** einKarl has quit IRC 16:58:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> which cost a million each ;( 16:58:44 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I build a nice tree next to the factory :-P 16:58:54 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> woot? why are they that expensive? 16:58:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2cc set 16:59:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright, thoughts about the cheating? :D 17:00:16 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hrm ... why do you insist on not using PBS on the X's? 17:00:20 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> Aubusson's IKEA looks like it could be an industry 17:00:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> phoenix: because there is no reason to do so 17:00:30 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> takes WOOD, produces FLATPACK 17:01:12 <PublicServer> <phoenix> V: well there is also no reason not to, or am i missing sth? 17:01:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, PBS sucks, uses more CPU and makes people build wrongly 17:01:43 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, ok then 17:03:05 <Lukeus_Maximus> !giveusmoremoney PublicServer! 17:03:56 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 17:04:08 <Tussengas> @password 17:04:15 <Tussengas> !password 17:04:15 <PublicServer> Tussengas: bolder 17:04:49 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas joined the game 17:05:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw pm: I do not remember openttdcoop using 2way PBS in other cases than for penalties ever :o 17:05:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... it also reacts worse afaik 17:06:49 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> Am I the only person experiencing lag? 17:06:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably 17:07:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E3DD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E3DD.png 17:07:42 <PublicServer> <phoenix> im building so slowly i would never notice a lag ;-) 17:08:07 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> what are you building? 17:08:23 <PublicServer> <phoenix> some pickup station 17:11:19 <planetmaker> @gap 3 17:11:19 <Webster> planetmaker: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 17:11:40 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (leaving) 17:13:01 <PublicServer> <phoenix> farms get 2 stations ,or not ? 17:13:12 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yep 17:13:38 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> axo? 17:14:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you need a double tunnel for 2 small stations ... I do not know what axo is though 17:14:30 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm i think axo is a non english expression 17:14:55 <PublicServer> <phoenix> im thinking about the englisch variant ... 17:15:46 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> I thought tunnels always neededto dubble, but not for station exits? 17:15:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> not for station exits where a train will go once a month 17:16:19 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> The pickup is still very "dirty" 17:16:20 *** Fuco has quit IRC 17:16:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> mainly the 2way PBS seems just wrong :) 17:16:55 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> 2way pbs are the white signs in front of the stations? 17:18:14 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> well, at least he is trying... I'm too scared to do something wrong so I'm just watching and commentating xD 17:18:22 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Tussengas: the Western 3 tracks are badly attached 17:18:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> important: build with electrification 17:18:43 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 17:18:51 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 17:18:51 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> western 3? 17:18:57 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> of factory pickup 17:19:18 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I better remove that :-P 17:19:50 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> I didnt build that xD 17:19:56 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I did :-P 17:21:27 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there, now we start to make $$ 17:21:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> where? :D :P 17:21:55 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but better make €€. Worth more :-P 17:22:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C675: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000C675.png 17:24:56 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:25:00 <V453000> later 17:27:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey all 17:27:33 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hi 17:27:36 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> hi 17:28:25 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas has joined spectators 17:29:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 17:29:16 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: plumps 17:30:32 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 17:31:05 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 17:31:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 17:33:32 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> laters 17:33:34 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 17:33:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 17:37:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BB90: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BB90.png 17:37:35 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 17:37:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CL 2 ok? 17:42:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interesting 17:42:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke cya later ppl 17:42:54 <PublicServer> <phoenix> cu 17:42:56 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:43:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BYe, Vin. 17:43:18 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> we saving for anything? 17:43:28 <PublicServer> <phoenix> nope 17:43:35 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> not? 17:43:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Saving what? 17:43:48 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> i thought for an industry 17:43:50 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> money 17:44:00 <PublicServer> <phoenix> i thought the factory was build? 17:44:10 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ah ok 17:44:12 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> it is 17:44:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, no, we're not saving for anything. 17:45:55 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 17:46:06 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 17:46:06 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: avider 17:46:18 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 17:47:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lol, I just made that train. 17:48:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BAY-NAN. 17:48:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Who made train 43? 17:49:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The last train, please, who made it? 17:49:28 <PublicServer> <phoenix> not me 17:49:30 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> what does Wip mean? 17:49:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> In Aurillac? 17:49:38 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> me neither, i'm in specator mode :p 17:49:41 <PublicServer> <phoenix> work in progress 17:49:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Work-In-Progress. 17:49:47 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I made the last train 17:49:57 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I didn't see that someone else made it 17:49:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, Luke, I made train 42 for that route. 17:50:01 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> at the same time I did 17:50:02 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ah okey... its in some towns in the middle of no-where :p 17:50:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok. 17:50:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, my train beat your terain, but your group beat mine. 17:52:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C9DB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C9DB.png 17:57:08 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> arw we creating transfers at gueret? 18:01:02 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 18:01:48 <PublicServer> <phoenix> I need help with train 44 18:02:26 <PublicServer> <phoenix> 1. why would it go there in the first place?! 18:02:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> that stop is not on its route 18:03:15 <PublicServer> <phoenix> and why did it not stop at the presignal?! 18:03:29 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 18:06:31 <xineohp> hello? anyone still here? 18:07:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007E6D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007E6D.png 18:22:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A306: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001A306.png 18:28:10 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas has left the game (leaving) 18:33:08 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 18:35:54 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 18:37:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005453: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005453.png 18:44:32 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 18:52:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004548: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004548.png 18:56:37 <V453000> !password 18:56:37 <PublicServer> V453000: unborn 18:56:49 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:56:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi guys 18:56:58 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hey 18:57:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> Guéret South: mixed station 18:58:08 <PublicServer> <phoenix> only bc one stupid train did not find it's correct way 18:58:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 18:58:32 <V453000> coming later ;) 18:58:42 <PublicServer> <phoenix> it also ignored a presignal ?! 18:59:08 <PublicServer> <phoenix> what is comming later? 19:03:28 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:03:28 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: unborn 19:03:38 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 19:06:10 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I suggest the use of a waterbourne SL for the 10 odd oil rigs to the east 19:07:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007871: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007871.png 19:07:29 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm, you will have to raise an afull lot of land from seelevel to do that 19:10:27 <Tussengas> how about the canal method? 19:10:31 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 19:11:15 <PublicServer> <phoenix> i don't know what that is 19:11:29 <Tussengas> looking for the link, give me a bit ;) 19:11:42 <Tussengas> check : http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2007/12/09/tutorial-the-canal-trick/ 19:12:05 <PublicServer> <phoenix> btw, do we have some kind of cental depot? 19:12:20 <Tussengas> for whwat? 19:14:31 <PublicServer> <phoenix> train maintenance 19:15:39 <Tussengas> we don't maintenance trains 19:15:59 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ah, well ok, then no depots 19:16:17 <Tussengas> only for inserting new trains and a few times to take trains out 19:16:56 <Tussengas> the trains are on "never breakdown" 19:18:17 <Lukeus_Maximus> canal metod it shall be 19:18:22 <Tussengas> btw, in short the canal trick is: make a square of canals in the ocean, use the dynamite to bomb the area within the square and you have a platform wich won't fload 19:18:56 <Tussengas> at that platform you make a station and a hill for a bridge 19:19:05 <Tussengas> and you got a station in the ocean 19:19:23 <PublicServer> <phoenix> yeah, read the link you posted 19:19:58 <Tussengas> the link only illustrates a bridge, but it also works if you closes the ends with canals instead of land 19:20:12 <PublicServer> <phoenix> k 19:21:10 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:22:05 <PublicServer> <phoenix> do we build an other SLH around !here? or should I connect to SLH01 (which would about double the travel time) 19:22:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A730: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A730.png 19:23:54 <Tussengas> !password 19:23:54 <PublicServer> Tussengas: dismay 19:24:06 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas joined the game 19:24:28 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:24:28 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: dismay 19:24:38 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 19:24:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:24:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:24:59 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hey 19:26:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> phoenix: primary pickups need to _ALWAYS_ have at least 2 platforms 19:26:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> so that there could always be a train loading 19:27:50 <PublicServer> <phoenix> i rather doubt that there will be that much trafic at a single oil rigg 19:28:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 platform is an absolute minimum regardless traffic 19:28:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> and there will be quite a traffic actually 19:28:28 <PublicServer> <phoenix> how so? 19:29:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, first of all the oil rig will grow, so it could produce a LOT ... also, there are likely to spawn his buddies around 19:29:55 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm, if you say so .... ok i will double them 19:30:11 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> I allready took the liberty to start doubling it :) 19:30:44 <PublicServer> <phoenix> there are two others ... 19:30:52 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ah ok 19:32:23 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> gueret west is done 19:33:26 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> I've placed !sea connection 19:33:44 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> this is where I think the SL for the east oil rigs should meet the shore 19:34:16 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> and should connect with the primary network 19:34:22 <PublicServer> <phoenix> looks good to me 19:34:48 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> why did you type that in? 19:35:00 <PublicServer> <phoenix> wrong window ... 19:35:10 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> :) 19:35:14 <PublicServer> <phoenix> i wanted to search for the sign 19:35:53 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:36:21 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> wouldnt it been easier if the airport @ BLO was replaced or removed? 19:36:47 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:36:47 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 19:37:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F892: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F892.png 19:37:30 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> hmm 19:37:39 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> that part is quite bad anyway... 19:38:12 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> hmm nvm that comment 19:41:17 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 19:41:45 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:41:45 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: sewers 19:41:57 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 19:44:42 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas has left the game (leaving) 19:45:43 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:46:51 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:46:51 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 19:47:24 <PublicServer> <phoenix> where would you place the next SLH in the NW? 19:47:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> there 19:48:01 <PublicServer> <phoenix> k 19:48:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> further from the BBH = better in general 19:48:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> how about !or here 19:48:56 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ? 19:49:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> everywhere there will be SLHs 19:49:28 <PublicServer> <phoenix> k 19:49:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are 4 arrows 19:49:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> each indicating a SLH, and its orientation 19:50:03 <PublicServer> <phoenix> will you build it? 19:50:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> if nobody does ... 19:51:07 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, im not sure if i could manage it ... so, you do it ;) 19:51:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> I fear you cannot say unless you try ;) but as you want 19:52:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can just continue on connecting cities 19:52:21 <PublicServer> <phoenix> btw, arent the to arrows that point to the lake, redundant? 19:52:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E21F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E21F.png 19:52:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh holy fucking shit, what the hell is the canal rails in the south? 19:52:55 <PublicServer> <phoenix> oil pickup ... 19:53:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you feel like it being uber ugly? 19:53:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> (it is) 19:53:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, he asked, and how else would you do it? 19:54:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> see for example Aurillac Lakeside 19:54:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> or even Guéret West is fine 19:54:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> but totally not this way 19:55:08 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, but those are close to shore 19:55:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> no difference, just go straight from the shore the closest path 19:55:36 <PublicServer> <phoenix> you couldent do that in the East 19:56:24 <PublicServer> <phoenix> and with you insisting on two platforms, you would need an afoul lot of bidges 19:56:34 <PublicServer> <phoenix> and islands 19:56:40 <PublicServer> <phoenix> bridges 19:56:42 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:57:35 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:57:35 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 19:59:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> better bridges than this disgusting canal 19:59:47 <PublicServer> <phoenix> *shrug* 20:03:30 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 20:04:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 20:04:14 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: metals 20:04:24 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 20:07:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F09A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F09A.png 20:07:25 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:07:39 *** Mucht has quit IRC 20:08:17 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:17 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:08:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 03 ready 20:09:17 <PublicServer> <phoenix> build one in the NW next, please 20:09:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will finish this half first 20:09:33 <PublicServer> <phoenix> k 20:09:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building Lisieux Transfer? 20:10:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> who was, eventually 20:10:55 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> so I heard somebody hates canals enough to delte them all and not tell me first 20:11:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> you heard right, I wrote it before though 20:11:32 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> your pile of ocean now. 20:13:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess it is not your aim to try doing it properly as we do on this server 20:14:09 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> What is the correct method then 20:14:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> see the other already connected rigs? 20:14:26 *** einKarl has quit IRC 20:14:30 <PublicServer> <phoenix> apparently building lots of bridges ;) 20:14:36 <PublicServer> <Lukeus Maximus> right 20:15:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is going on near network plan btw 20:16:24 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, you said not canels, so it is bridges 20:16:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but why one bridges 20:16:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, two would cost double 20:16:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> cost? 20:16:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> we do not care about the cost 20:17:27 <PublicServer> <phoenix> fine then builds a second one 20:17:31 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:35 <mfb-> hi 20:17:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:18:12 <mfb-> !password 20:18:12 <PublicServer> mfb-: chants 20:18:21 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:20:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> pax network is LR? 20:20:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> so far 20:20:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> really small hubs :D 20:22:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B93A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B93A.png 20:23:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice overflow system at wood goods pickup 20:23:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:23:33 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:10 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:27:14 *** Pewpsocher has quit IRC 20:28:07 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:28:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL3? 20:28:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 20:28:46 <Tussengas> !password 20:28:46 <PublicServer> Tussengas: ranker 20:28:55 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas joined the game 20:29:00 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:00 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:31:26 <Lukeus_Maximus> how is dinan woods an airport 20:31:35 <Lukeus_Maximus> whay are two planes circling it? 20:32:25 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> i guess its walked 20:32:59 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> see the pinetrees in Dinan 20:33:05 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> they are a part of the airport 20:34:39 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 20:35:23 <planetmaker> station spread can be 64 tiles ;-) 20:36:32 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop 20:36:36 <Benny> !players 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 110 (Orange) is phoenix, in company 1 (Beaujolais Transport) 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 175 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Beaujolais Transport) 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 112 is notch, a spectator 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 113 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Beaujolais Transport) 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 165 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Beaujolais Transport) 20:36:39 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 177 (Orange) is Tussengas, in company 1 (Beaujolais Transport) 20:36:47 <Benny> Hey guys. :) 20:36:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:36:55 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hi 20:36:56 <mfb-> hi 20:37:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F0C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F0C8.png 20:37:27 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> PM, at the coaldrop, what will that priority line do exactly? 20:37:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> presignal bypass, see wiki 20:38:07 <planetmaker> a very classical concept ;-) 20:38:19 <planetmaker> much older than pm's presence in the ttd community ;-) 20:38:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> very classic, and can jam very classic ;) 20:39:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:40:32 <planetmaker> the you'd have to change it to the valshallaw style ;-) 20:40:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> which sucks even greater 20:40:48 <planetmaker> That can't jam. And it'll bring horror to all those who don't like pbs. 20:41:27 <mfb-> :D 20:44:24 <Tussengas> whats the reason it would jam? 20:44:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> which thing 20:44:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> PSB? 20:44:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> second train can see the same green the first train wants to use 20:45:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> as mfb says 20:45:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> any rules for TGV or just "pick a destination you like"? 20:45:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> the second rule :) 20:45:41 <Tussengas> ah ok 20:45:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> AUR got nearly as many waiting pax as the city has 20:47:28 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> well, due the layout of the place, it can't extend anymore so I guess they have no choise but to leave 20:47:44 <mfb-> where? 20:47:56 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> aurillilac 20:48:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, the station is nearly empty 20:48:18 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ? 20:48:23 *** sla_ro|vista has quit IRC 20:48:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no trains 20:48:27 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> are you looking to the right station? 20:48:41 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ah , no trains but plenty of passengers :p 20:48:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> right 20:52:19 <Benny> !password 20:52:19 <PublicServer> Benny: sipped 20:52:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002C52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002C52.png 20:52:28 <PublicServer> *** Benny joined the game 20:52:38 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:52 <PublicServer> <Benny> Now that is one brilliantly built oil pickup right there, 20:53:12 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> ? 20:53:14 <PublicServer> <Benny> Very good place optimization. 20:53:23 <PublicServer> <Benny> The oil pickup. 20:53:44 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> yeah, But it sounded like sarcasm so I woundered what was wrong :p 20:54:04 <PublicServer> <Benny> Nono, I am serious. No or very little TFing has been done here. 20:54:40 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> I think I see just 1 double corner though 20:55:31 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> but if this was the tf as it was, it's been nicely done 20:55:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think it was a little bit more 20:56:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:56:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> unlikely to have these tunnel entrances 20:56:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> without TF 20:56:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever is at SLH04, next time discuss deleting stuff before breaking it 20:57:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you can build a SLH yourself 20:57:08 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:57:08 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:57:12 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> btw, is there a use for the signals at the begin of the station (near to the cl sign) 20:57:20 <PublicServer> <phoenix> sorry, but it was not broken 20:57:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> it got majorly broken 20:58:18 <PublicServer> <phoenix> how can it be broken, if you build it exactly as i planed to do?! 20:58:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm, since I shortened the waiting bays a lot, it obviously is different than you did 20:59:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> at the very start 20:59:47 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm, do those have a maximal lenght? 20:59:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> related to the TL 21:00:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1x TL is ideal, anything longer is worse 21:00:11 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ah, ok 21:00:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> but shorter is broken ;) 21:00:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:00:46 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, i would have asked you to check, when i was finished 21:04:17 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> mfb? 21:04:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> Guéret West trains have shared orders with trainyard, please only clone trains from trainyard, not ctrl+clone 21:05:10 <PublicServer> <phoenix> sorry# 21:05:20 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> where you moved a bit to make space for the ML, didnt you made some short cl's ? 21:05:28 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> near gueret west 21:05:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you really think such a place deep in the SL suffers from CLs? :) 21:06:44 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> I'm just asking to get to understand your considerations at those points 21:06:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> and I am answering them :p 21:07:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000804D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000804D.png 21:08:57 <PublicServer> <phoenix> two trains per oil station? 21:09:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 trains per any station from the start is optimal imo 21:09:17 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ok 21:09:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> so one train can wait and load while the other train is somewhere in the network 21:10:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> which work is in progress at dinan? 21:10:34 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> btw, in my offline game I got 2or 3 trains always waiting at a pickup and still I got only 75 % transported 21:10:36 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> is that random? 21:10:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe the trains are slow 21:10:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: no work I assume, feel free to take over 21:11:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tussengas: you cannot get 100% 21:11:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> due to whatever reasons, it just isnt possible :) 21:11:28 <Tussengas> trains are slow? 21:11:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> with advertising 21:11:37 <planetmaker> V453000: is is possible 21:11:43 <planetmaker> seen it. done it. been there 21:11:45 <V453000> only very temporarily though 21:11:48 <PublicServer> <phoenix> those trains are expensive .... and i still have 5 to build :( 21:11:52 <V453000> not for longer time 21:11:52 <Tussengas> ah cities don't send everything to your trains? 21:11:55 <V453000> I seen 100% too 21:12:13 <V453000> but only for lor producing industries 21:12:40 <PublicServer> <Benny> Oh damn.. I yelled at my mom and now she is crying... What do.. .___.- 21:13:02 <PublicServer> <Tussengas> tell her you're to busy with trains to talk to her 21:13:04 <planetmaker> apologize 21:13:26 <PublicServer> <Benny> I probably should. 21:13:40 <PublicServer> <Benny> Damn, women, how do they work >_> 21:13:43 <PublicServer> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 21:14:04 <planetmaker> Benny: that's not for men to understand :-P 21:14:52 <PublicServer> *** Tussengas has left the game (leaving) 21:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> AUR almost empty now :) 21:16:59 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost) 21:17:05 <mfb-> ... 21:17:07 <mfb-> !passwird 21:17:10 <mfb-> !password 21:17:10 <PublicServer> mfb-: founts 21:17:30 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 21:20:24 <Benny> There we go, a calm talk and some hugs later and it's all sorted out. 21:20:43 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 21:20:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 21:20:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:20:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 21:21:12 <Benny> !password 21:21:12 <Benny> Hey there. :) 21:21:12 <PublicServer> Benny: founts 21:22:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000732E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000732E.png 21:22:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh V a question 21:22:38 <Benny> !password 21:22:38 <PublicServer> Benny: twined 21:22:46 <PublicServer> *** Benny joined the game 21:22:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why do the overflows have an escape for steel pickup and goods pickup 21:23:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> for lost trains 21:23:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> if a lost train would ever get there, it couldnt escape on its own 21:23:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> this way it does not influence the overflow anyhow, and lets such trains leave it 21:23:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I see 21:23:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> but of course ... they cannot see it as a turnaround since there is the reverser 21:24:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it works just and only when it should 21:24:14 <PublicServer> <Benny> phoenix, you here? 21:24:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> I like the overflow logic though, never done it that way yet :) 21:25:41 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 21:26:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who is building Narbonne Woods check CL 21:26:23 <PublicServer> <Benny> Yeah no I'm fixing a CL1 turn. 21:26:27 <PublicServer> <phoenix> that would be me 21:26:39 <PublicServer> <Benny> what 21:26:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> more than one problem where 21:26:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe it is better to bridge the SL 21:27:09 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm, true 21:27:48 <PublicServer> <Benny> Oh, THAT's Narbonne Woods >_> 21:27:51 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 21:28:25 <PublicServer> <phoenix> lol 21:28:31 <PublicServer> <phoenix> now its gone 21:28:54 <PublicServer> <Benny> We are running low on money... 21:29:20 <PublicServer> <phoenix> jep, i still have 5 trains to build ... 21:29:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1 mil each\ 21:29:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is that at ?? ? 21:30:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 21:30:30 <mfb-> @cl rail 2 21:30:30 <Webster> mfb-: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 21:30:38 <mfb-> @cl 2 rail 21:30:38 <Webster> mfb-: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 21:30:41 <mfb-> @cl 21:30:41 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 21:30:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> clcalc 21:30:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> erail 21:30:44 <mfb-> ah 21:30:48 <mfb-> @clcalc erail 2 21:30:48 <Webster> mfb-: A rail Curve Length of 2 (3 half tiles) gives a speed of 132km/h or 82mph 21:31:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, nice 21:31:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am quite sure the "no slowdown" does slow 21:31:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, deleted now 21:31:54 <PublicServer> <Benny> nope 21:32:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc, you dont have TL3 there 21:32:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 21:32:37 <PublicServer> <Benny> ...what 21:32:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> boom 21:32:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> that explains that 21:32:55 <PublicServer> <Benny> oh well 21:34:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> any rules on town growth so far 21:34:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> reasonably, but totally not higher than 10k 21:35:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> unless we have all towns at that limit, the network smooth, and need/will to expand :) 21:37:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be going, so good night :) 21:37:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000970B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000970B.png 21:37:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gn 21:37:29 <PublicServer> <phoenix> n8 21:37:31 <PublicServer> <Benny> Good night. 21:37:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 21:37:35 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:45:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks good 21:45:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SW or NE 21:45:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> SW 21:45:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> as we have 05 to NE 21:45:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, W, not SW 21:45:32 <PublicServer> <Benny> Whichever one goes leftwards and upwards. 21:45:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> lower left 21:45:48 <PublicServer> <Benny> No oil rigs on the mountains. 21:45:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> not to SLH05 ;) 21:46:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 21:46:02 <PublicServer> <Benny> NW then 21:46:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> when did that happen 21:46:41 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:46:59 <mfb-> wiki is slow again :( 21:47:07 <PublicServer> <Benny> Yeah yeah anyeays, do we want an SLH around there that leads to BBH01? 21:47:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> there isnt much around to go to, is it? 21:48:00 <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Compass says you are wrong mfb 21:48:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we will fund 21:48:16 <PublicServer> <Benny> ^ 21:48:26 <PublicServer> <phoenix> well, then, why not 21:48:32 <mfb-> hmm wait 21:48:41 <mfb-> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/index.php?title=Compass&oldid=10265 <- old page 21:48:50 <mfb-> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Compass current page, pm changed it 21:49:15 <mfb-> (january 11) 21:49:37 <Vinnie_nl> yep mine is newer 21:49:40 <Vinnie_nl> so 21:50:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> why did that change? 21:50:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> dont ask me 21:50:43 <PublicServer> <phoenix> anyone willing to build an !SLH, at this location? 21:50:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you 21:51:04 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hm 21:51:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I bet you can with some help 21:51:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> regular SLH, no special features 21:51:38 <PublicServer> <phoenix> yeah, but it will take time 21:51:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> of course 21:51:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> so what 21:51:57 <PublicServer> <phoenix> and the route is in use 21:52:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> np 21:52:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> low traffic 21:52:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010F1A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010F1A.png 21:52:33 <PublicServer> <Benny> Built temp tracks in case it's needed then. 21:52:35 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ok, i will try 21:54:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> you will need more tracks there 21:55:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> so it's useless to finish that part now 21:55:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> (signals...) 21:55:15 <PublicServer> <Benny> who? 21:55:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> phoenix 21:55:32 <PublicServer> <Benny> ok 21:55:46 <PublicServer> <phoenix> where do i need more? 21:56:13 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 21:56:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> entry/exit are always to the bigger thing 21:57:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> so a SL-exit is from the SL to some station 21:57:09 <PublicServer> <Benny> ...I have no idea what you are talking about. 21:57:31 <PublicServer> <phoenix> neither do i 21:57:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> see signs 21:58:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, just continue 21:58:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> you will see and learn 21:58:34 <PublicServer> <Benny> okay then 21:58:49 <PublicServer> <Benny> we want connections to the oil drop/pickup too? 21:59:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH goes to all sides 21:59:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> always 21:59:23 <PublicServer> <Benny> Hmmkay. 21:59:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyway highlight me for questions 21:59:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya later 22:01:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it really helps if you wait with signals 22:01:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> in most cases, some tracks have to be moved somewhere 22:01:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> so it is just more work to change every signal every time 22:06:45 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:07:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011718: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011718.png 22:09:39 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 22:16:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> may I ask what that line does? 22:16:46 <PublicServer> <Benny> what line? 22:17:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> no that is bad 22:17:33 <PublicServer> <Benny> why? 22:17:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains should be able to join both lines, but the decision should fall as late as possible 22:18:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> so empty slots in both lines can be used 22:18:19 <PublicServer> <Benny> I can make this do that. 22:18:25 <PublicServer> <phoenix> is it better to have two T SLH directly behind one another, to build a 4-way SLH? 22:18:52 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ~or to build 22:20:55 <mfb-> two SLHs 22:21:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> unless that is not possible 22:21:11 <PublicServer> <phoenix> ok 22:21:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> but 4way-SLHs are difficult to expand 22:21:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> as it is really messy when there are lines from everywhere to everywhere everywhere 22:21:48 <PublicServer> <phoenix> expand in what way? 22:22:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> more lines for more traffic 22:22:21 <PublicServer> <phoenix> k 22:22:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D59F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D59F.png 22:22:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> the ML may become LLL RRR 22:22:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> or a second line for the SL 22:27:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, you can re-use a part of it for the other entry 22:28:06 <PublicServer> <Benny> I JUST realized that! 22:28:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 22:33:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> why so long? 22:34:39 <PublicServer> <Benny> like so instead? 22:36:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the best case 22:37:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012919: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012919.png 22:37:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice 22:38:45 <PublicServer> <Benny> the prio is 7 tiles now, feels too long 22:38:48 <PublicServer> <Benny> the tunnel one 22:38:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> is ok 22:39:06 <PublicServer> <Benny> kk 22:39:08 <PublicServer> *** notch has left the game (leaving) 22:48:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> just add a signal? 22:48:57 <PublicServer> <Benny> oh yeah, that wil actually work 22:49:08 <PublicServer> <Benny> prio still works now 22:49:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> some more signals missing now 22:50:53 <PublicServer> <Benny> how long prios? 22:52:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F39E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F39E.png 22:53:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~5-7tiles? Didn't look at train acceleration 22:54:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~6-7 22:54:14 <PublicServer> <Benny> ok 22:57:14 <PublicServer> <Benny> It's done :D 22:57:23 <PublicServer> <Benny> woo 22:58:14 *** perk11 has quit IRC 23:04:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> still missing signals 23:05:16 <PublicServer> <Benny> niiiitpick 23:06:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 23:06:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> fine 23:06:58 <PublicServer> <Benny> ^^ 23:07:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 23:07:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F99B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F99B.png 23:07:32 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 23:07:36 <PublicServer> <Benny> 'night 23:07:46 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:12:14 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 23:22:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000131DD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000131DD.png 23:28:00 <PublicServer> <Benny> Oh well, bed for me now, scooter lessons tomorrow. 23:28:10 <PublicServer> <phoenix> n8 23:28:12 <PublicServer> <Benny> Good night, if there's still anyone on here. ^^ 23:28:22 <PublicServer> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 23:28:37 *** Benny has quit IRC 23:37:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DF96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000DF96.png 23:39:23 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:47:13 <Chris_Booth> hi all 23:47:19 <PublicServer> <phoenix> hi 23:47:54 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 23:48:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh the ultimate terminus never saw the light of da 23:48:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> day 23:49:01 <PublicServer> <phoenix> nope 23:49:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am loving Factoy Pickup I ROFLed when I saw 23:50:06 <PublicServer> <phoenix> though i tried it in an offline game ... didn't work out too well 23:50:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you need the signals and vision 23:50:38 <PublicServer> <phoenix> major trouble getting the trains out fast enough 23:52:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DFD9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000DFD9.png 23:55:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok its impossible to build on a hill 23:57:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving)