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00:12:37 *** allometry has joined #openttdcoop 00:12:43 <allometry> !password 00:12:43 <PublicServer> allometry: musked 00:12:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:12:58 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 00:13:22 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 00:13:36 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:13:39 <PublicServer> *** Allometry joined the game 00:14:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:14:06 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:14:07 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 00:21:38 <PublicServer> *** Allometry has left the game (leaving) 00:21:38 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:22:58 <allometry> !password 00:22:59 <PublicServer> allometry: sicker 00:23:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:23:06 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:23:07 <PublicServer> *** Allometry joined the game 00:23:18 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 00:23:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:23:35 <PublicServer> *** Allometry has left the game (leaving) 00:39:50 <allometry> !help 00:39:50 <PublicServer> allometry: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 00:40:13 <allometry> !download 00:40:13 <PublicServer> allometry: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 00:40:13 <PublicServer> allometry: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22727 00:46:04 *** allometry has quit IRC 00:59:13 *** alang has quit IRC 01:58:38 *** mattt_ has quit IRC 02:16:53 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 02:17:14 <Mark> hello 02:19:55 <Mark> !info 02:19:55 <PublicServer> Mark: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Bloggs & Co.' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 27619699 Loan: 0 Value: 27889348 (T:1, R:7, P:7, S:0) unprotected 02:31:24 <Mazur> Hi. 02:31:44 *** Mark has quit IRC 03:48:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:48:40 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 03:48:44 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 06:13:24 *** mattt_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:17 *** Ryton has joined #openttdcoop 06:26:52 *** Ryton has quit IRC 06:57:19 *** mattt_ has quit IRC 07:04:35 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 07:17:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:17:34 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 07:18:57 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 07:29:06 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:44 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:47:08 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 08:07:07 *** Tray has quit IRC 08:22:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 08:22:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:05:39 *** alang has joined #openttdcoop 09:25:42 *** Ph has joined #openttdcoop 09:26:05 *** Ph is now known as pPhazorx 09:27:16 <pPhazorx> could anyone be so kind and share a link to standard coopers openttd.conf 09:27:46 <pPhazorx> interested in yapf and other patches settings rather than newgrfs 09:31:20 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:35:38 *** mosi|work has quit IRC 09:38:32 *** alang has quit IRC 09:58:26 *** pPhazorx has quit IRC 10:02:15 *** Paragulis has joined #openttdcoop 10:02:43 *** Paragulis has quit IRC 10:07:01 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop 10:08:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:08:24 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 10:10:44 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 10:18:42 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:18:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:42:17 *** mosi|work has joined #openttdcoop 11:40:00 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 11:40:17 <Maraxus> !players 11:40:19 <PublicServer> Maraxus: Client 87 is TWerkhoven, a spectator 11:46:12 *** Sigma has joined #openttdcoop 11:56:36 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 11:59:00 <iklucas> !players 11:59:03 <PublicServer> iklucas: Client 87 is TWerkhoven, a spectator 11:59:22 * iklucas just joined the server. 12:00:20 *** iklucas has quit IRC 12:19:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:19:09 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 12:21:23 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:50:47 <Tray> !password 12:50:47 <PublicServer> Tray: ordeal 12:51:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:51:08 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 12:51:20 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 13:02:41 <Maraxus> !password 13:02:41 <PublicServer> Maraxus: cruxes 13:02:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:02:55 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 13:12:49 <Chris_Booth[LP]> hi 13:13:08 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 13:15:40 <Chris_Booth[LP]> any new plans? 13:16:01 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> there are 2 plans currently 13:17:05 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'm trying to think something up, but keep running into problems... 13:18:02 <Chris_Booth[LP]> I am going to make one 13:18:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:18:44 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 13:19:07 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 13:19:59 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 13:19:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:20:15 <Sigma> I can't think of anything 13:22:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000FEBA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000FEBA.png 13:27:57 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 13:27:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi Spike 13:37:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001556B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001556B.png 13:39:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my plan is dont 13:39:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> done 13:41:35 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> one question: I assume your plan requires som amount amount of terraforming? 13:43:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Maraxus: very little 13:43:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> CL3 13:43:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no TF in the lake needed 13:44:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and bridges are easy to build for the ML 13:44:47 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> so we will change max bridge length later? 13:45:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 8 tiles should be enough 13:45:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that gives you bridges 10 long 13:46:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> with TL 5 you only need 2 bridges 13:47:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check ! here 13:47:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> easy to make a crossing there 13:47:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and other places 13:47:51 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> what about !here2? 13:49:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no crossing there 13:49:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats dont by boats 13:49:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> done 13:49:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the rest of the ML goes around the lake 13:49:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to !ml here 13:50:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and !here is the only other lake crossing 13:50:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh and !here 3 sorry 13:52:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017F78: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017F78.png 13:53:08 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has joined company #1 13:55:17 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 13:55:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 13:55:46 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 13:56:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> all the !here's... 13:56:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> part of my plan 13:56:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for bridging points 13:57:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> your bridges are more important than other plans? :p 13:57:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no, its just showing peopl mfb XD 13:59:19 <PublicServer> * mfb is not impressed by the acceleration 13:59:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope 13:59:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nor am I 13:59:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was just checking my sample 13:59:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> needs More Power 14:00:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> maximal force is a bit low 14:02:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 5x BR 321 works ok 14:02:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> so 50% of the train? 14:02:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its and MU so still hase 100% capacity 14:03:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 14:03:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 40 pax in a wagon 40 pax per BR 321 wagon 14:05:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for GEC 91 you need 2x loco for TL imo 14:05:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the TE is to low otherwise 14:05:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its ok empty but full it will chug 14:05:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> just looked at Sylf's plan 14:06:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I would guess he means 2x GEC 14:06:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice 14:07:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I like the class 67 part of Vs plan 14:07:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the 67 is a great loco 14:07:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E6A3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E6A3.png 14:08:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think it is time to start voting 14:08:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since both you and Spike are here I guess you can say if we are allowed to add a 2nd set 14:09:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if so I am going to add DBXL 14:09:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and use those trains 14:10:07 <mfb-> no idea 14:10:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well its up to the member and not me 14:10:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I can express my fealing of adding a 2nd set 14:10:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but can't stop it 14:11:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I think if this rules is going to be added then we should all be allowed to suggest GRF changes to the map 14:11:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> which means I am going to change my plan 14:11:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to have the best chance of winning 14:12:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if we are not allowed to suggest changing or adding GRFs then we need to ammend V453000's plan 14:13:57 <mfb-> he wants to add one, too 14:15:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, I just watch 14:15:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I only want to add one 14:15:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> DBXL 14:16:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I like DBXL ICE1 + GEC 91 14:22:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017B71: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017B71.png 14:24:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting bridge speeds 14:24:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> wood > steel 14:24:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, some steel 14:25:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 80 mph wood 14:32:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so voting/ 14:32:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ? 14:37:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016770: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016770.png 14:42:22 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 14:42:51 <mfb-> why not ;) 14:45:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no voting board :P 14:45:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 14:46:58 <mfb-> @stage Voting 14:46:58 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22727) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 14:51:33 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 14:51:37 <Chris_Booth[LP]> I am off now 14:51:40 <Chris_Booth[LP]> have fun 14:52:05 <mfb-> cu 14:52:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008A1A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008A1A.png 14:57:24 *** cprc has joined #openttdcoop 14:57:50 <cprc> !password 14:57:50 <PublicServer> cprc: fluffs 14:58:14 <PublicServer> *** cprc joined the game 15:05:15 *** Gumili has joined #openttdcoop 15:05:40 <Gumili> Hello, what to do when PF trap from http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/09/611/ doesn't work for me? 15:07:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032C08: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032C08.png 15:08:01 <mfb-> maybe you did it wrong? 15:08:27 <mfb-> or you did not activate "red twoway = end of line" 15:08:50 <Gumili> how to activate this red twoway = end of line? 15:09:56 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 15:10:05 <mfb-> hmm 15:10:29 <Gumili> i remember that there was some line i should type into console 15:10:44 <PublicServer> *** cprc has left the game (connection lost) 15:10:45 <Gumili> but i can't remember this line 15:11:06 <mfb-> yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = true 15:11:28 <mfb-> openttd.cfg 15:12:03 <cprc> !password 15:12:03 <PublicServer> cprc: thumps 15:12:24 <PublicServer> *** cprc joined the game 15:13:58 <Gumili> that works, thank you very much, mfb! 15:16:58 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 15:19:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> the EMD is a bit slow 15:22:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F8A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F8A0.png 15:27:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains are more intelligent than I thought 15:31:08 <PublicServer> <Sigma> o.O that's weird 15:32:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> if the distance is larger than ~4.5 tiles, it takes the inner route, otherwise it takes the outer one 15:32:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> so the distance is regulated by the train 15:32:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> without that, it would crash 15:32:48 <PublicServer> <Sigma> what if you force the 91 to close in? 15:32:54 <PublicServer> <Sigma> would it crash then? 15:33:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> of course 15:33:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is faster 15:33:20 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 15:33:28 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it will still brake 15:33:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 15:33:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> that was me 15:33:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> (that would be a nice feature ;)) 15:34:05 <PublicServer> <Sigma> so only if they have this choice they do it... 15:34:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> right 15:34:13 <PublicServer> <Sigma> still weird without signals 15:34:49 <PublicServer> *** cprc has left the game (connection lost) 15:36:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> (that was me) 15:36:28 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 15:36:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> slowed it down too much 15:37:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008C1D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008C1D.png 15:41:12 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it will even take the shortcut if the diesel is still on it 15:41:25 <cprc> !password 15:41:25 <PublicServer> cprc: rubble 15:41:30 <PublicServer> <Sigma> so it's really the distance 15:42:26 *** Tray has quit IRC 15:43:28 <mfb-> what happened to the game? 15:44:05 <Sigma> connecting clients 15:44:20 <mfb-> ip over avian carriers? 15:44:41 <Sigma> lol 15:44:48 <mfb-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers 15:44:49 <Webster> Title: IP over Avian Carriers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 15:45:58 *** cprc_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:46:11 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop 15:46:17 <MrD2DG> !password 15:46:17 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: rubble 15:47:29 *** mattt_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:47:40 <Sigma> seems like some of the avians got lost 15:47:42 <Sigma> lol 15:47:54 <MrD2DG> !password 15:47:54 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: rubble 15:48:16 <MrD2DG> Oh FFS, now i cant connect to this server :/ 15:49:07 <Sigma> it's stuck in *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:49:13 *** cprc__ has joined #openttdcoop 15:49:54 <MrD2DG> :/ 15:50:12 *** cprc has quit IRC 15:50:17 <MrD2DG> Says a person it waiting to connect in front of me in the queue, never seen that before... 15:50:20 <MrD2DG> Then i just disconnect 15:50:26 *** cprc__ is now known as cprc 15:50:38 <cprc> same 15:51:00 <MrD2DG> And yesterday I couldnt connect to the stable server, but its fine today, then this happens ¬_¬ 15:51:40 <mfb-> cprc is the connecting client 15:51:49 <cprc> oh right, my fault. 15:51:56 <cprc> i'm not trying to connect now 15:52:15 <mfb-> ah, that worked 15:52:26 <mfb-> [17:52:12] <PublicServer> *** cprc has left the game (kicked by server) 15:52:26 <mfb-> [17:52:12] <PublicServer> *** cprc has left the game (connection lost) 15:52:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E6A3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E6A3.png 15:54:11 <MrD2DG> !password 15:54:11 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: ignite 15:54:26 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG joined the game 15:54:28 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hmm 15:56:00 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 15:56:04 <PublicServer> <cprc__> :) 15:56:06 <PublicServer> <Sigma> whew :p 15:56:08 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :P 15:56:12 *** cprc_ has quit IRC 15:56:24 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has joined company #1 15:58:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> voting board is a bit empty ;) 15:58:10 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Still looking at plans :) 15:58:56 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 15:59:29 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 15:59:36 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has joined company #1 15:59:55 <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.1.2 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/153> 16:00:03 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Where the hell is sylfs plan 16:00:05 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Oh 16:06:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> usually near !plan /Sylf 16:06:41 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Already found it, forgot to check the sign list 16:09:06 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has joined company #1 16:09:30 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 16:11:40 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 16:12:04 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 16:16:12 *** cprc has quit IRC 16:22:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C6A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000C6A1.png 16:26:09 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has joined spectators 16:34:46 *** alang has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:00 *** cprc has joined #openttdcoop 16:40:26 <cprc> !password 16:40:26 <PublicServer> cprc: adepts 16:40:42 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 16:40:55 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has joined company #1 16:42:26 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:13 *** alang has quit IRC 16:46:07 *** perk11 has quit IRC 16:46:39 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 16:52:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000881F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000881F.png 16:59:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> MrD2DG: that is not useful for just 3 plans 17:07:11 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 17:07:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E6A3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E6A3.png 17:08:38 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:09:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 17:09:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> just ASEA missing 17:11:01 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 17:13:56 *** cprc_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:47 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 17:18:07 *** cprc has quit IRC 17:18:08 *** cprc_ is now known as cprc 17:26:05 *** Kwaad has joined #openttdcoop 17:26:45 <Kwaad> !help 17:26:45 <PublicServer> Kwaad: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:28:50 <mattt_> !password 17:28:50 <PublicServer> mattt_: medley 17:29:08 <PublicServer> *** mattt_ joined the game 17:30:28 <PublicServer> *** Kwaad joined the game 17:32:17 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:33:35 <Kwaad> !info 17:33:35 <PublicServer> Kwaad: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Bloggs & Co.' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 38972139 Loan: 0 Value: 39275430 (T:6, R:7, P:7, S:0) unprotected 17:35:30 <Sylf> !playercount 17:35:30 <PublicServer> Sylf: Number of players: 8 (6 spectators) 17:35:41 <Sylf> We have so many players and we only have 3 votes so far 17:35:54 <Sylf> cast your votes :) Anyone is welcome 17:36:06 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 17:36:24 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 17:36:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 17:36:31 *** pPhazorx has joined #openttdcoop 17:36:41 <pPhazorx> evening 17:36:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> same problem again? 17:36:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 17:37:11 <pPhazorx> did we ever had any ps MSRN games? 17:37:45 <mfb-> rcon kick 153 17:37:50 <mfb-> !rcon kick 153 17:37:50 <PublicServer> mfb-: *** cprc__ has left the game (kicked by server) 17:37:50 <PublicServer> mfb-: *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 17:38:20 <mfb-> strange with that endless connecting thing 17:38:33 <pPhazorx> hi mfb, dunno who you are but please have my belated welcome to members of coop :) 17:38:52 <PublicServer> <Kwaad> Hello, I'm new here, so thought I'd say hi :) 17:39:07 <pPhazorx> that must be autopilot issue i thoughti fixed it 2 years ago 17:39:12 <pPhazorx> hi 17:41:37 <cprc> !password 17:41:37 <PublicServer> cprc: bettor 17:41:47 <PublicServer> <Kwaad> I'm assuming signs only show up if your member of the company? 17:41:52 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 17:42:25 <mattt_> Why are there auto and train platforms in the middle of nowhere? Does that increase passenger count somehow? 17:42:35 <mattt_> The ones I' 17:42:45 <mattt_> er, the ones I'm looking at are linked to platforms in towns 17:43:36 <pPhazorx> mattt_: you really think anyone can guess which ones you are looking at? 17:43:44 <mfb-> Kwaad there is a new option for that 17:44:00 <mfb-> mattt_: these stations are walked 17:44:06 <mfb-> so the sign is not where the passengers are 17:44:21 <mfb-> increases the distance and the income for the moneymaker 17:44:53 <mattt_> walked.. ah, so intermediate stations are built and then destroyed? 17:45:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 17:45:09 <pPhazorx> mattt_: ctrel _ click when building 17:45:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> ctrl+click 17:45:27 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 17:45:44 <Tray> !password 17:45:44 <PublicServer> Tray: bettor 17:45:52 <mattt_> I thought that was subject to station spread of 64 tiles? 17:46:08 <mfb-> 64 tiles, right 17:46:19 <mfb-> that is what we use at moneymakers 17:46:23 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 17:47:06 <mattt_> ah, looking again these platforms are probably within 64 tiles. 17:47:54 <pPhazorx> so... was where any MSRN games in last year or two been sort of away? 17:48:16 <mfb-> what is the M in MSRN? 17:48:36 <pPhazorx> mfb wiki :) 17:48:40 <pPhazorx> multipoint 17:48:50 <mfb-> ah 17:48:57 <mfb-> have a look at PSG199 ;) 17:49:12 <pPhazorx> think of ECS/PBI/FISH + SRNW 17:49:22 <pPhazorx> thanks will doo 17:50:21 <pPhazorx> oh no, i cant look at it it's toyland mars 17:50:21 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 17:50:58 <pPhazorx> and based on description that is not exactly it 17:51:36 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (connection lost) 17:51:41 <pPhazorx> since MSRN implies multiple drop per many pickups or multiple pickups per many drops, depending on wether you are dealing with primaries or secondaries 17:52:49 <mfb-> hmm. then I don't know. maybe before 199 17:52:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008A20: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008A20.png 17:53:38 <pPhazorx> well i guess it comes dont to if we had any games with industry sets based on limited throughup/capacity/stockpile per industry 17:54:28 <mfb-> PSG209 (?) had low limits at the industries, but we just placed more of them at the drops 17:54:37 <mfb-> and the pickup was a regular one 17:55:47 <pPhazorx> not fair :) 17:56:08 <pPhazorx> capacity cap isa very valid realisitic point 17:56:34 <pPhazorx> you are not supposedf to deal with it by placing more industries at where you feel like dropping carg 17:57:06 <mfb-> well, in reality, industries get expanded, too 17:57:37 <pPhazorx> true, but not based on materials supplied :) 17:58:00 <mfb-> if there is more to process? 17:58:20 <pPhazorx> goes to stockpile 17:58:34 <pPhazorx> most factories IRL have "buffers" 17:58:37 <mfb-> and if there is even more, the factory will consider an expansion 17:58:47 <pPhazorx> which let them operatre for duration of several months 17:59:03 *** Sigma has quit IRC 17:59:12 <mfb-> for months? I don't think so 17:59:28 <pPhazorx> i really doubt Ford factory will consider making more cars if there are more bolts or nuts on shelfs than they need to :) 17:59:58 <mattt_> a paper mill would definitely have a long term supply of lumber in the yard 17:59:58 <Tray> Atleast we don't build relastic networks so why bother of relaistic factories? 18:00:13 <mfb-> well... 18:00:17 <pPhazorx> Tray: more fun that way 18:00:35 <pPhazorx> ESC offres more challenges to anyone, coopers included 18:00:51 <pPhazorx> in fact most players can barely comprehend the idea 18:00:54 <mattt_> i imagine a steel mill would have a lot of surplus ore.. it's expensive not to keep coke ovens fired.. but often they use scrap metal for that 18:00:54 <mfb-> in reality, the decision what is transported from where to does not depend on the transportation company at all 18:01:03 <mfb-> (and, really: not on red twoway signals) 18:01:08 *** cprc has quit IRC 18:01:43 <mfb-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_%28business%29 18:01:44 <Webster> Title: Just-in-time (business) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 18:02:27 <PublicServer> <Tray> what's the point of !why does that work? 18:02:35 <pPhazorx> mfb you are talking paxdest & cargodest patches then :) 18:02:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> the different train speeds 18:03:03 <mattt_> ooo jit business management software would be cool to work on ^_^ 18:03:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> GEC has to use both lines with a certain frequency to prevent a crash 18:03:12 <mattt_> neet article :) 18:03:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> some odd value which I don't know 18:03:37 <PublicServer> <Tray> i see 18:04:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~2/3 on the outer line 18:04:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> a bit more 18:04:22 <pPhazorx> mfb, funny you mention it - i'm trying to implement JIT system at work these days 18:04:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 18:05:42 <pPhazorx> mfb, as in converting some car reparit/sale business processes from schedule to queue 18:08:11 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 18:08:53 <pPhazorx> anyway - msrn is a nice conpcet, i wonder if it has been tried in 18 months since i did a write up... since i would like some input about it for sometihng nerw :) 18:09:31 <mattt_> Hey, the Suoavik Airport has two bus platforms and one bus that picks up at one and transfers at the other.. Is that intentional or should one of the bus platforms not have been attached to the airport? 18:09:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> new plan with it? ;) 18:09:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> that has... historic reasons ;) 18:10:02 <pPhazorx> wont work, since i dont have time to be around 18:10:08 <pPhazorx> may be next week i try 18:10:32 <pPhazorx> but still - too many variable have to click for the plan to be even considered 18:11:01 <pPhazorx> and considering ECS complexity it is more fit for pro zone 18:11:41 <pPhazorx> btw hi XeryusTC :) 18:12:03 <mattt_> or does that have to do with ratings? 18:12:53 <mfb-> the bus service was first and just transported passengers between the towns 18:13:04 <mfb-> the airport came later and did not use the old station (no idea why) 18:13:07 <mfb-> and nobody changed it 18:13:10 <XeryusTC> hi Phazorx 18:13:13 <pPhazorx> mattt_: intereting... do transfer passengers are considered to be local when it comes to rating calculations? 18:13:45 <XeryusTC> what is msrn? 18:13:47 <mattt_> pPhazorx: no idea.. I'm just making guesses, my knowledge of ttd is basic relative to you guys :) 18:14:00 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: we got that on our wiki 18:14:09 <XeryusTC> @wiki msrn 18:14:10 <Webster> XeryusTC: "Multipoint Self-regulating Network" (Redirect from "MSRN"): 18:14:11 <Webster> XeryusTC: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Multipoint_Self-regulating_Network 18:14:12 <Webster> XeryusTC: Multi-point Self-regulating Network (MSRN) is an enhancement of SRNW design aimed to help with adapting SRNW concept to capacity oriented industry sets such as PBI, ECS or FIRS. 18:14:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm station spread prevents this 18:15:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> and I am too lazy to move the airport 18:15:27 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: you might know answer to me prevquestion about transfers and rating... care to enlighten us? 18:16:21 <XeryusTC> transfer cargo gets taken into account on station rating? 18:16:44 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: local pax/mail versus global in terms of town growth 18:17:02 <XeryusTC> town growth requires 5 stations to be serviced in the last 20 days 18:17:14 <XeryusTC> i think that having vehicles younger than 2 years helps 18:17:22 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: no matter of pax gets to anywhere? 18:17:24 <XeryusTC> and in arctic and desert you need additional cargoes 18:18:00 <XeryusTC> i do think that vehicles do need to pick up some cargo, but a full vehicle with transfer & load orders might work, not sure on that 18:18:29 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: so as long as you take pax from 5+ stations within town it gets the bones mo mater if they are just droped somewhere w/0 getting to so other palce? 18:18:43 <XeryusTC> i only know that the quickest way to get a town to grow is to have 2 bus stations across the street from each other and have a bus run in between them 18:19:00 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: yeah that is local cargo 18:19:14 <pPhazorx> but who does trasfer chimes into that concept? 18:19:18 <PublicServer> *** mattt_ has left the game (leaving) 18:19:38 <XeryusTC> i dont think that where the cargo comes from is a big part of it 18:19:45 <pPhazorx> nice 18:19:57 <pPhazorx> so i might want to tell Rubi about it :) 18:21:39 <XeryusTC> http://wiki.openttd.org/Town_growth#Tips_for_Town_Growth 18:21:53 <XeryusTC> http://wiki.openttd.org/Town_growth#Town_Growth even 18:22:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000120C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000120C2.png 18:24:15 <pPhazorx> XeryusTC: a bit dates but it still does not clarify whether transfered pax are considered local or not and at what time 18:25:35 <XeryusTC> i think that every cargo in a station can be considered local 18:25:46 <XeryusTC> the main factor is that you need to pick up cargo apparently 18:25:47 *** Gumili has quit IRC 18:25:55 <XeryusTC> according to the wiki page it doesnt even need to be pax :o 18:26:21 <pPhazorx> well only pax and mail origins can be traced back to the town 18:35:06 <pPhazorx> reason i mentioned MSRN - i wonder if if based on it it is possible to have multiple cargo MSRN network with refits and waypoints in schedule for several drops to many pickups scenario 18:40:24 *** Pubby has joined #openttdcoop 18:40:30 <Pubby> !download win32 18:40:30 <PublicServer> Pubby: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22727/openttd-trunk-r22727-windows-win32.zip 18:41:16 *** cprc has joined #openttdcoop 18:44:50 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 18:46:03 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 18:46:21 <Pubby> !password 18:46:21 <PublicServer> Pubby: pepped 18:46:35 <PublicServer> *** Pubby8 joined the game 18:47:47 <PublicServer> <Pubby8> hi 18:49:09 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 18:52:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008C21: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008C21.png 18:58:31 *** cprc has quit IRC 19:05:16 *** cprc has joined #openttdcoop 19:20:13 *** pPhazorx has quit IRC 19:20:16 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 19:20:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o SmatZ 19:25:31 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 19:26:03 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 19:26:09 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:31:08 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 20:07:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017D02: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017D02.png 20:11:11 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:22:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035A61: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035A61.png 20:26:02 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 20:31:04 *** perk11 has quit IRC 20:32:18 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:33:20 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 20:33:44 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 20:37:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000201E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000201E1.png 20:38:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> only 4 votes up to now :( 20:44:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> the distance between the two 201km/h-trains changed 20:52:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E6A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E6A0.png 20:54:44 <PublicServer> <Kwaad> Just wondering, how long does the voting process last? 20:56:56 *** Sigma has joined #openttdcoop 21:00:35 <mfb-> until we have enough votes 21:06:17 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 21:10:50 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop 21:11:23 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:13:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I hope my plan wins 21:13:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I like my plan 21:14:05 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 21:16:47 <PublicServer> <Kwaad> Are there any rules regarding the voting? Can everyone vote, or just regular members? 21:22:34 <Chris_Booth[LP]> Kwaad anyone can vote 21:22:40 <Chris_Booth[LP]> even your nan could vote 21:24:32 <Chris_Booth[LP]> only real rule for voting is you can't vote for yourself 21:24:47 *** hnrgrgr has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:53 <Kwaad> are you allowed to bribe tho? :) 21:26:17 <Sylf> You can try to convince how superior your plan is 21:26:35 <Sylf> Or, if you didn't make a plan, you can still cheer for your favorite 21:28:21 * planetmaker usually accepts cookies or beer as bribes :-P 21:29:02 *** mfb- has quit IRC 21:29:07 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 21:29:45 <Sigma> no !plan /planetmaker though :p 21:30:50 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 21:30:57 <Chris_Booth[LP]> pm I will give you cookies and hugs if you vote for me 21:31:19 <planetmaker> :-P 21:31:36 <Sigma> mfb's circle of trains is so bizarre 21:31:39 <Sigma> they're still going 21:31:56 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:33:51 <Mazur> Utterly ridiculous. 21:35:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And why aren't the inner trains catching up with the one going on the outside? 21:36:01 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 21:36:21 <PublicServer> <Sigma> there are 2 diesels and 1 GEC-91 21:36:27 <PublicServer> <Sigma> the latter is faster 21:37:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008C21: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008C21.png 21:38:39 <hibby> !password 21:38:39 <PublicServer> hibby: debtor 21:38:51 <PublicServer> *** Hibby joined the game 21:39:52 <hnrgrgr> !download mac 21:39:53 <PublicServer> hnrgrgr: unknown option "mac" 21:40:15 <hylje_> !dl 21:40:15 <PublicServer> hylje_: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 21:40:15 <PublicServer> hylje_: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22727 21:40:18 <hylje_> !dl osx 21:40:18 <PublicServer> hylje_: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22727/openttd-trunk-r22727-macosx-universal.zip 21:41:03 <hnrgrgr> thx 21:42:21 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (connection lost) 21:42:54 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 21:42:58 <PublicServer> *** Hibby has left the game (leaving) 21:48:20 <mattt_> !help 21:48:20 <PublicServer> mattt_: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 21:48:50 <mattt_> !playercount 21:48:50 <PublicServer> mattt_: Number of players: 6 (3 spectators) 21:49:19 <planetmaker> good night 21:49:24 <mattt_> !password 21:49:24 <PublicServer> mattt_: debtor 21:49:31 *** cprc has quit IRC 21:49:40 <PublicServer> *** mattt_ joined the game 21:49:56 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 21:49:59 *** cprc has joined #openttdcoop 21:52:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009A22: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009A22.png 21:58:41 *** cprc_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:00:09 <PublicServer> <mattt_> Mosfellsbaer West is up to ~1500 passengers ^_^ 22:00:17 <cprc_> !password 22:00:17 <PublicServer> cprc_: starch 22:01:28 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 22:02:46 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined company #1 22:03:17 *** cprc has quit IRC 22:03:20 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (connection lost) 22:03:23 *** cprc_ is now known as cprc 22:04:48 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 22:04:55 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 22:07:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B882: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B882.png 22:09:32 <cprc> !password 22:09:32 <PublicServer> cprc: easels 22:10:01 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ joined the game 22:13:51 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (leaving) 22:14:36 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 22:15:07 <PublicServer> <Sylf> good, a few more votes 22:16:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> someone grew the middle town 22:17:51 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:20:41 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 22:21:53 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 22:22:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017D01: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017D01.png 22:23:13 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 22:23:20 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has joined company #1 22:26:50 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (leaving) 22:29:11 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 22:32:54 <PublicServer> <mattt_> Should the buses in Eskifjordur be transferring to the main station? Or is that setup to grow the town rather than to get more passengers to the airport? 22:34:27 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 22:37:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000162FF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000162FF.png 22:40:56 <PublicServer> *** mattt_ has left the game (leaving) 22:48:51 <Sylf> whoever is growing the town, can you please stop 22:48:51 <PublicServer> *** Kwaad has left the game (leaving) 22:51:13 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (leaving) 22:52:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000172F9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000172F9.png 22:57:26 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 23:01:40 *** alang has joined #openttdcoop 23:03:53 <PublicServer> *** cprc__ has left the game (connection lost) 23:08:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000164FF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000164FF.png 23:09:35 *** Tray has quit IRC 23:14:13 <Sylf> !players 23:14:16 <PublicServer> Sylf: Client 160 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 23:14:16 <PublicServer> Sylf: Client 162 (Orange) is Pubby8, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 23:14:16 <PublicServer> Sylf: Client 172 (Orange) is persil, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 23:14:23 *** Sigma has quit IRC 23:14:35 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:16:18 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 23:23:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000126C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000126C0.png 23:23:22 *** HDIEagle has joined #openttdcoop 23:23:27 <HDIEagle> !dl win64 23:23:27 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22727/openttd-trunk-r22727-windows-win64.zip 23:23:32 <HDIEagle> sop 23:25:15 <HDIEagle> !players 23:25:18 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 162 (Orange) is Pubby8, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 23:25:18 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 172 (Orange) is persil, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 23:25:55 <HDIEagle> !password 23:25:55 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: braise 23:26:04 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game 23:28:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 'allo? 23:30:52 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (leaving) 23:30:58 *** HDIEagle has quit IRC 23:33:59 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop 23:34:28 <MrD2DG> !password 23:34:28 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: braise 23:34:39 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG joined the game 23:35:36 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has joined company #1 23:38:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000124C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000124C0.png 23:38:33 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 23:53:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034BAC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034BAC.png