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08:33:46  <happpy> !players
08:33:46  <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, no one is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
08:33:53  <happpy> hi
09:45:37  <happpy> hi hazzard
09:45:41  <happpy> ar you there
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09:48:28  <dwarf> !players
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09:48:41  <dwarf> !year
09:48:55  <happpy> !date
09:48:55  <coopserver> Nov 05 2379
12:11:43  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> Shp
12:11:44  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> Sup
12:39:15  <happpy> hk
12:39:16  <happpy> hi
12:39:20  <happpy> arcene
12:39:28  <happpy> how things going
14:11:06  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> Studying
14:11:15  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!>
14:11:16  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> And drawing
14:11:52  <happpy> what ar you drawing
14:12:36  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> Some space battle
14:12:39  <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> For art
14:13:22  <happpy> nice
14:14:05  <happpy> have you try  3d drowin
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14:21:14  <macguest> happpy that you with one too many p's? :)
14:21:49  <happpy> hi
14:22:03  <happpy> i have not dun them yet
14:26:18  <happpy> i still got to do 3 jobs to do
14:26:40  <happpy> so i do then soon  macguest
14:26:48  <macguest> I'm about to go off for a while today too so yeah take your 20 hours or so :-)
14:27:02  <happpy> he hec
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17:55:07  <coopdiscord> <LugnutsK / Hazzard>
17:55:23  <coopdiscord> <LugnutsK / Hazzard> new D-latch design that tiles in 34 squares
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17:56:37  <happpy> hi hazzard  looks like nice
17:57:19  <happpy> on uk trains set  how do you get the maglevs  trains dus goods
17:58:34  <coopdiscord> <LugnutsK / Hazzard> Idk
17:59:16  <happpy> lol
18:00:09  <coopdiscord> <LugnutsK / Hazzard> :/
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19:54:27  <macguest> and hows your busy weekend starting so far happpy happy? :) heh
19:57:48  <happpy> ok
19:58:05  <happpy> i got the old FRIe primary set
19:58:10  <happpy> but i got a problem
19:58:18  <happpy> on the UK trains set
19:58:40  <macguest> well I may know so care to tell me?
19:58:59  <happpy> i can not found out y i not get maglevs goods train
19:59:21  <happpy> how do i get the fall UK trains set and maglevs goods train
20:00:51  <macguest> happpy hmm are you using any track grf or just vanilla?
20:01:38  <happpy> the onley own i got is purr train line
20:01:39  <happpy> and
20:02:02  <happpy> uk tirain line
20:02:10  <happpy> train line
20:02:44  <macguest> happpy also just so I know re trying it for a moment here too but are you using 'uk renewal set' or 'uk revival set'? (first one shows as version 3.04 but second one shows as version 200)
20:04:15  <macguest> oh or are you using ukrs2?
20:04:26  <macguest> seem its a little confusing with several overlaps in the list :-s
20:04:38  <happpy> ukrs2
20:05:13  <macguest> ok ukrs2 I see .. just ukrs2 or are the addon's included?
20:06:14  <happpy> i got uk remewal train set v3 04
20:06:25  <happpy> and ukrs2
20:06:27  <macguest> sorry to ask a lot happpy .. just wanted be sure we had the same test ground
20:06:36  <happpy> np
20:06:38  <macguest> ok I'll load just ukrs2 without the addons .. one sec
20:21:05  <macguest> happpy well I did a few cheated maps and from what I see ...  purr-rail doesn't support ukrs2 'nicely' not surprisingly .. nutrack (just defaults so you don't have to edit anything) shows full ukrs2 range ...
20:22:13  <macguest> ukrs 3.04 has two maglevs that seemingly can work on either vanilla+nutrack maglev or any purr-rails but its a little crappy because you only can buy one fixed-size trainset .. it doesn't allow you to buy wagons
20:24:17  <macguest> happpy oh and if the maglev size wasn't a problem it seem the one freight maglev can't carry much of anything but just goods or supplies .. and oddly milk cargo too
20:24:22  <macguest> no coal, no oil, etc
20:24:41  <happpy> hmm
20:24:58  <happpy> i got the uk trains but no maglevs
20:25:02  <macguest> happpy so well yeah to be honest it'll be better to ignore maglevs .. and basically choose ukrs2+nutrack .. with or without the extra ukrs2 addons
20:25:38  <macguest> the freight maglev comes out in 2019 .. and only works in maglev depot (or purr-rail depot if you are using that)
20:26:11  <happpy> so i just need ukrs2 then
20:26:17  <macguest> yeah
20:26:24  <macguest> any other questions that I should test? :)
20:26:41  <happpy> hmm
20:27:12  <happpy> Frie primary set  is it better whive ukrs2 or nuts train set
20:27:31  <macguest> happpy one second I was just rechecking something re trains for you ..
20:29:05  <macguest> happpy yeah seem like purr-rail doesn't like a good % of the electric locomotives that ukrs2 is suppose to come with (these locos/emus only shows up with nutracks not surprisingly) .. but theres still enough electrics in the buy lsit if you rather want to use purr-rail alone nevertheless ...
20:29:21  <macguest> anyway give me another moment to test the FIRS relationship :)
20:33:03  <macguest> happpy yeah ukrs2 has no problem with either firs 1.4.4 (set to 'firs' economy) or 3.0.12 (set to 'extreme' economy) as all the possible refit options are there and even the tank cars will take goods if you're the type that want to refit at an oil refinery as I noticed some players did on previous maps
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20:33:36  <macguest> happpy so the only one problem for you is to decide if you want to use nutracks which shows all electric locos or purr-rail which would be more limited buy list
20:33:51  <macguest> otherwise I don't see any gameplay issues
20:35:16  <macguest> happpy btw you don't have to worry about turning expiration off as I cheated from 1920 to 2049 directly and even with nutracks the buy list is not that too busy nevertheless :)
20:35:53  <happpy> hmm
20:36:04  <hylje> yo
20:36:08  <happpy> the problem is
20:36:24  <macguest> oh and happpy btw I did change the ukrs2 parameters .. I set both locomotive and wagon to 'extended' which adds just a few more interesting useful items to the buy list early on
20:37:14  <happpy> if i ade the nut tracks then i dont no y the ukrs2 dont work
20:37:17  <macguest> anyway sorry if I talk a lot happpy .. just tell me what else you need :)
20:37:33  <macguest> happpy hmm what do you mean?
20:37:45  <happpy> hi hylje
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20:37:49  <macguest> I tested with firs on top ... nutrack in middle .. and ukrs2 on bottom
20:38:00  <macguest> (in case that was what you wanted to ask about)
20:38:33  <macguest> sorry .. I sometimes can't quite read your odd english .. you know
20:38:45  <happpy> ar its on
20:38:46  <happpy> ok
20:39:14  <macguest> happpy but anyway just one sec ..
20:39:40  <happpy> hyle on UK trains set
20:40:24  <happpy>  i got all steem and diesel electric trains but i remember  playing  UK trains set  and it had maglevs goods train
20:41:05  <macguest> happpy well there was only 2 fix-size maglevs in 3.04 .. none of the other versions .. I guess their lack of cargo support was a major letdown
20:41:06  <happpy> any way to get them hylje
20:41:45  <happpy> yeah
20:42:22  <macguest> happpy beside from what I saw on previous maps very few players ever had goods route .. so there would be nearly no maglevs in the first place anyway
20:44:51  <macguest> happpy in that retrospect it'll be easier on players to go with ukrs2-extended (with or without the other addons as they're just optional extra buylist items heh) .. and beside if they want non-rail trains they can just play the other map that has nuts instead :P  (I'll be on the uk map alone mind you heh)
20:45:12  <macguest> anyway its your server so .. yeah :)
20:47:20  <happpy> or i think i  no y i got no maglevs
20:48:14  <happpy> nop
20:48:20  <happpy> ok plan b
20:48:25  <macguest> happpy well as I said .. the maglev only carry goods alone and nothing else even in FIRS
20:48:29  <macguest> its rubbish
20:50:22  <happpy> hmm
20:51:02  <happpy> y i am all way get a message  when i get  start a game whive  FRIe primary set
20:57:00  <happpy> it say new grf FIrE industy repacemet set 14.4m provides invorret information callb 0+4 c returned unknow /invald resul 0+b
20:57:10  <happpy> i dont understand y
20:57:23  <happpy> but  the grf works fine
21:01:30  <happpy> macguest  which ships you like  whive FRe primary set
21:05:35  <macguest> happpy btw I was just being silly and did a quick cheated game just to show the early (in front) or late (second behind it) on all four possible tracktypes .. and yeah I know only one single steam locomotive with two small coal wagons but :p
21:06:02  <macguest> the overhead electric is available in 1920 .. so is the 3rd rail emu ... the other electrics have their own intro dates well  past 1920
21:06:36  <macguest> I didn't show the diesel/electric hybrid as its a bit pointless now :)
21:07:06  <macguest> anyway happpy you can just load the default FISH given that it supports all custom cargos as far as previous FIRS maps of yours went
21:08:05  <macguest> yeah I checked .. the FISH buy list says 'all cargo types'
21:10:08  <macguest> as for that 0+4 error I dunno, might just be the os rather than the game but I have no clue sorry
21:13:47  <happpy> ok
21:13:52  <happpy> map is dun
21:15:17  <happpy> ok so game setting  found primary is on found town is on town can not do roads  train running cost  is lik  nice  and to by them  train will never expire
21:15:45  <happpy> the station berkel  he whont that's in the lists
21:15:49  <macguest> happpy hmm not to be rude but its nice to let town grow on its own especially as players are not on 24/7 to watch things? :)
21:15:57  <happpy> and nice ships
21:16:03  <macguest> but either way I'll still play .. just more freight than pax tho :)
21:16:27  <happpy> you can do road for the town
21:16:46  <macguest> happpy well I tried that once and it still didn't work out .. like I said .. I can't be online 24/7
21:16:48  <happpy> but town do automatic roads is of
21:17:00  <macguest> whats the map name for the uk trains still?
21:17:43  <happpy> you will see in a minte
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21:23:56  <happpy> this is my new map
21:24:01  <happpy>
21:24:02  <Webster> Title: happpy FIRE uk traine map.sav - Google Drive (at
21:28:57  <macguest> happpy well theres only one minor issue .. no road/tram :-)  but otherwise you almost got a working release :)
21:29:29  <macguest> 1920 buy list for road = nothing in there :)
21:29:53  <happpy>   not meny players do road
21:30:06  <macguest> happy well 1920 with nothing to buy isn't helpful tho
21:30:17  <macguest> and btw these hills you did .. these seem nice anyhow
21:32:54  <macguest> happpy so yeah like I said the gamesave you gave just need one more grf but otherwise after that you can put it on the server list ... as always its your call :)
21:32:56  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
21:35:48  <happpy> i can noy ad grf when the map been dun
21:37:00  <macguest> happpy np .. just put it up and don't be surprised if you see many 4-tiles-long rail routes then :)
21:38:35  <macguest> heh did a quick company on your gamesave .. can't wait for the online map :P
21:38:55  <happpy> what was the grf
21:39:39  <macguest> well you can choose between HEQS and/or RoadHog which we have used before
21:39:55  <macguest> but like I said .. ukrs2 comes with tiny locomotives so I can use these on the very short routes if I have to
21:41:23  <macguest> mm I checked .. RoadHog shows some road vehicles and firs-compatible cargo trams in 1920 after all
21:43:37  <macguest> btw its not just me .. I know other players have used many buses and rau if not others seemingly also had a lot of cargo trucks for some reason as well
21:43:45  <macguest> thats why I bought that topic up
21:45:27  <happpy> i can redo a map
21:46:13  <macguest> well its still possible to only use rail alone for the short runs with ukrs2 tho so its up to you
21:48:29  <happpy> so what  grf will fixs it
21:48:48  <macguest> RoadHog would work well
21:50:25  <happpy> thats not a grf
21:51:51  <macguest> happpy hmm try look for just 'hog' . it should be the only one in list
21:52:09  <macguest> I'm not sure how to tell the real filename right now ..
21:52:24  <happpy> it's ok
21:52:28  <happpy> i got it
21:52:30  <macguest> np
21:52:58  <happpy> so what  dus that do then
21:53:49  <macguest> roadhog adds some 1920-dated vehicles to the road/tram shed buy list .. but even in 2049 its not that big of a list still, even then for the players that use it on previous maps its still a good one
21:54:24  <macguest> you can't exactly put a rail station in middle of a city :P
21:54:40  <hylje> hold my beer
21:54:41  <happpy> ok i will redo the .map
21:55:00  <macguest> hylje I wish I could help you but I only drink water and juice drinks? :)
21:55:19  <happpy> any thin   need change
21:55:30  <happpy> befor i do a new game
21:55:45  <macguest> happpy nope you picked a nice terrain etca .. so the road vehicle is the only one thing left .. you can upload it to the server list after that
21:58:33  <macguest> oh yeah and happpy I know I said I'll only play on the uk map but I may still just watch the other maps just to see what you and other players would be up to :-)
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22:05:09  <happpy>
22:05:10  <Webster> Title: happpy FIRE uk traine map.sav - Google Drive (at
22:05:20  <happpy> is that beter
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22:10:20  <happpy> macguest is that beter map
22:11:16  <macguest> sorry happpy .. distracted somewhere else .. one sec
22:11:28  <happpy> np
22:12:29  <macguest> huh thats interesting .. yeah you can upload that one :)
22:12:36  <happpy> ok
22:12:39  <happpy> thanks
22:13:04  <happpy> can you do me a favour
22:14:22  <macguest> yes?
22:15:27  <happpy> macguest  can you do me a favour  and join rebbit sever 1 and tel all players  a message from admin happpy  say there a problem on the IRC channel for the rebbit severs  we sorry for  the problem we hop to get it fixs
22:16:02  <happpy> soon
22:16:21  <macguest> whats rebbit?
22:16:42  <happpy> in the sever list
22:16:53  <macguest> thats why I asked .. theres no rebbit :)
22:16:59  <happpy> its say rebbit sever 1 or some thin like that
22:17:01  <macguest> maybe we're having language issue again heh
22:17:08  <macguest> hmm server .. let me recheck
22:17:32  <macguest> ah too many 'server' names sorry :-/
22:18:05  <happpy> i get the server name
22:19:15  <macguest> hmm wait happpy did you perhaps meant 'reddit' ?
22:19:21  <happpy> yes
22:19:41  <happpy> server 1
22:20:35  <happpy> give that  message i told you  to all players in the sever 1
22:21:09  <macguest> ok I gave them the message :)
22:21:15  <happpy> thanks
22:22:25  <happpy> the problem we got in the irc channel for the  server   is we lost the connect  to the server 1 and i think its a dater or memory problem
22:22:36  <macguest> mm I see
22:22:39  <happpy> and only luaduck  can fixs it
22:22:48  <happpy> but he  afk
22:23:13  <happpy> so any problem in the game i can not fixs
22:23:27  <macguest> mm
22:23:29  <happpy> in till the problem  been fixs
22:23:58  <happpy> i have berm pm him all day
22:24:03  <happpy> but no reply
22:24:08  <happpy> rip
22:24:13  <macguest> I can imagine :-s
22:24:52  <happpy> dame where hazzard
22:26:19  <happpy> i can not  port the map on the server  becomes  a error 255 code
22:27:53  <macguest> 'the map' as in the ukrs one or this about something else?
22:30:09  <macguest> anyway happpy I need to go off for a little bit sorry .. hope you don't have too much other troubles happening tonight tho
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