Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 17th June 2009:
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01:33:26  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 56M)
01:33:26  <Brot6> Yow!
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06:48:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #222: Alignment of airport runway sprites @ (by planetmaker)
07:04:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 203: Fix: make test had a wrong variable @ (by planetmaker)
07:08:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 83: Change: added correct values for props 13 & 14 to mining truck... @ (by andythenorth)
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08:13:52  <DJNekkid> any news?
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08:31:23  <Beardie> Hi Ammler , I am getting a Unexprected Server Closed Connection Error Message
08:31:37  <Beardie> Wait its working now
08:31:40  <DJNekkid> h i B :)
08:31:42  <DJNekkid> hi B
08:31:45  <Beardie> hi
08:31:47  <Beardie> :D
08:31:49  <DJNekkid> did u get the code i sent yesterday to work?
08:32:00  <Beardie> emm i think so
08:32:03  <Beardie> i left frank to do it
08:32:17  <Beardie> i think he mananged tog et it to work
08:32:20  <Beardie> put on conrdoe
08:32:24  <Beardie> concorde*
08:32:42  <DJNekkid> let me see :)
08:33:01  <Beardie> well i just removed a load png files
08:33:13  <Beardie> so if you do a pull wathc out it shall removed like 100 files
08:33:20  <Beardie> nothing to do with the code though
08:33:25  <Beardie> thats will work fine
08:35:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 144: Removed All png Format Planes For Resorting @ (by Beardie27)
08:35:46  <DJNekkid> to ask the harsh questions ... why is the default running speed 0 ? :)
08:35:55  <DJNekkid> and the default running cost = :)
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08:36:20  <Beardie> emm
08:36:23  <Beardie> don;t know
08:36:41  <Beardie> look i haven't even looked at
08:36:42  <Beardie> it
08:36:50  <Beardie> frank implemented it
08:54:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #223: A380-900 Greyscale @ (by Beardie27)
08:54:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #224: B737-300F Channel Express Sprite Missallignment @ (by Beardie27)
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09:01:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #225: B737-500 Continental Airlines @ (by Beardie27)
09:01:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #225: B737-500 Continental Airlines @ (by Beardie27)
09:04:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #226: Resort B737-900 White Area @ (by Beardie27)
09:08:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #227: B747-400 Virgin Atlantic (Blue Area Problem) @ (by Beardie27)
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09:15:03  <DJNekkid> brb
09:18:34  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 145: Updated all pngs no spaces on file names, new folder sprites/png @ (by Beardie27)
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09:19:27  <Beardie> My repository page has not updated since r137, i am on r145 now
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09:29:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 146: Moved AV8 pngs files to sprites\png @ (by Beardie27)
09:30:38  <Beardie> O buggar i know why now
09:30:53  <Beardie> Ammler my computer clock got set at july 10th by accident
09:31:06  <Beardie> when i puseed i think its gone to the future
09:31:15  <Beardie> pushed*
09:31:28  <Beardie>
09:31:51  <Ammler> hehe, indeed
09:32:31  <Beardie> well the repository page is stuck on r137
09:32:51  <Beardie> which is the one i did on july 10th (in the future)
09:33:33  <Beardie> i any ideas?
09:34:43  <Beardie> "ignore the 'i' "
09:40:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #112: Sprites 4695:4698 (4) - Toyland: Tea pot and piggy bank @ (by foobar)
09:42:25  * FooBar_ wonders how different time zones are handled if the local system's time is taken for commit timestamp
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09:45:48  <Ammler> Beardie: the changesets are there, just in wrong orders
09:45:56  <Ammler> doesn't hurt
09:46:05  <Beardie> Ammler?
09:46:36  <Ammler> FooBar_: project was gives you the answer ;-)
09:47:15  <Ammler> oh, local zones, I assume they will all be stored with UTC
09:47:55  <FooBar_> I suppose so...
09:48:09  <FooBar_> Let's see if I can derive that somewhere...
09:48:23  <Ammler> hehe
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09:49:22  <Ammler> hmm
09:49:33  <Ammler> but it looks like it oes save it with the local time
09:49:54  <FooBar_> well that's bad
09:50:47  <Beardie> i see lol
09:50:59  <FooBar_> now in theory I could commit a change to your file which ends up below your change in the list...
09:51:00  <Beardie> sorry ammler didn't noticed that r145 had gone under r137
09:51:08  <Beardie> yes you could
09:51:13  <Beardie> change your clock
09:51:35  * FooBar_ is not interested in changing his clock
09:51:53  <Beardie> i know, just saying in theory thats how you could do it
09:52:21  <FooBar_> yes, you've proven that :)
09:52:57  <Beardie> yes, the thing is the repository list won't sort its self out till the 10th july
09:53:25  <FooBar_> and even then it won't. r137 will remain out of place forever ;)
09:53:49  <Beardie> really?
09:53:57  <Beardie> well true
09:54:17  <Beardie> but i mean off the top of the list, if a post a revision after that date it will push it down
09:54:22  <Beardie> i*
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09:55:19  <FooBar_> off the top of the list it will go eventually
09:57:22  <Beardie> well least thats a start
09:57:52  <Beardie> one other thing the file that was meant to go with that push is not in the reop s)
09:58:11  <Beardie> repo*
09:58:41  <Beardie> :?
09:58:55  <FooBar_> maybe it will be on july 10th
09:59:00  <Beardie> * i wonder what is the confused simely
09:59:10  <Beardie> maybe lol
09:59:14  <FooBar_> :$
09:59:28  <FooBar_> no... : S -> :S
09:59:35  <Beardie> :s
09:59:39  <Beardie> there we go thanks
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09:59:55  <Beardie> well i going to have to wait a month to get my file back lol
10:00:15  <DJNekkid> sup? :)
10:00:18  <Beardie> so where is it? stored on teh server until the 10th july
10:00:22  <FooBar_> I suppose it's still on you're system, isn't it?
10:00:55  <Beardie> Well, DJ, my computer thoguht it was 10th july, date got messed up and when a push r137 its posted on that date and now the file is stuck until that date
10:01:23  <Beardie> r137 is also stuck at the top of the repository page list
10:01:33  <Beardie> well i ahev teh file no green tick foobar
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10:01:41  <Beardie> just the file
10:02:01  <DJNekkid> change the date, and make a new repo dir somewhere :)
10:02:18  <Beardie> i already changed the date back and started pushing again
10:02:25  <FooBar_> ah, then you'll get that tick on july 10th I suppose :P
10:02:26  <DJNekkid> hehe
10:02:26  <Beardie> it posting things on teh correct date now
10:02:27  <DJNekkid> :)
10:02:44  <DJNekkid> FooBar_: what about that nekomaster huh? :p
10:02:56  <FooBar_> yeah, what about it :)
10:03:11  <DJNekkid> t-spoon :p
10:03:21  <DJNekkid> well, we have all been there, but atleast i tried to understand :P
10:03:32  <FooBar_> how dare he suppose that I randomly code things :P
10:04:13  <DJNekkid> good portion of american boldness i guess :)
10:04:41  <FooBar_> he american? didn't know that...
10:05:11  <DJNekkid> im not 100% sure tho, but he seem to love american and canadian engines... seen that in other threads as well
10:08:28  <FooBar_> he tends to start post 24 hours a day... I can't seem to find a timeslot where he might sleep...
10:08:55  <DJNekkid> lol
10:09:09  <DJNekkid> speed? coke?
10:09:14  <FooBar_> dunno...
10:09:52  <DJNekkid> hehe
10:09:58  <DJNekkid> meth perhaps
10:10:24  <FooBar_> yesterday between 20 pm and 4 am (GMT+2) could be a sleeping timeslot. But then a few days ago it seemed to be between 4 am and 14 pm
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10:11:25  <DJNekkid> must be some kind of central stimulating drug :P
10:11:51  <FooBar_> but he might also be at work in one of those timeslots
10:12:32  <FooBar_> people really should post "good morning everyone" more often :P
10:13:38  <FooBar_> I think the 4-14 timeslot is the 'work' timeslot...
10:14:20  <FooBar_> so let's assume his 4am is my 7am
10:14:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 147: Cleanup Colour_Schemes.png @ (by Beardie27)
10:14:40  <FooBar_> so he lives three hours away from me
10:14:59  <FooBar_> must be Dutch then... :S
10:15:21  <FooBar_> oh wait. That's when there's 3 hours driving time...
10:15:24  <FooBar_> errr...
10:15:38  <Beardie> Hye DJNekkid i have updated the whole repo no files have spaces :)
10:15:50  <Beardie> still pushing now :)
10:16:18  <DJNekkid> its planetmaker thats the no-space-junkie :p
10:16:50  <DJNekkid> gmt+2 ... aka CET? :)
10:16:58  <FooBar_> yeah, that one
10:17:10  <FooBar_> with DST currently
10:17:17  <FooBar_> otherwise it would be GMT+1 :P
10:17:36  <DJNekkid> aye
10:17:37  <FooBar_> but three hours left of CET doesn't actually exist :S
10:17:46  <Beardie> I am on GMT :p
10:17:47  <DJNekkid> i dunno
10:17:56  <FooBar_>
10:17:56  <DJNekkid> canarie islands?
10:18:15  <FooBar_> no, the canaries are just GMT
10:18:57  <DJNekkid> greenland or brazil?
10:19:07  <FooBar_> only the sandwich islands are in GMT-2...
10:20:16  <DJNekkid> heh
10:20:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 148: Added new Folder Documentation, removed PlaneSet Folder @ (by Beardie27)
10:20:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #220 (Closed): Rearrange All files and folders in repo for better s... @ (by Beardie27)
10:20:26  <FooBar_> maybe we'd better ask :P
10:20:51  <DJNekkid> hehe
10:20:58  <DJNekkid> i still think drugs!
10:21:12  <DJNekkid> the kind that keeps u awake, and makes you a tad dingdong...
10:21:40  <DJNekkid> plus, hes on the dole
10:21:45  <DJNekkid> so he can be awake whenever he wants :9
10:22:04  <FooBar_> possibly. He claims to be 16 and student...
10:22:10  <FooBar_> drugs fit in there perfectly
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10:22:15  <DJNekkid> hehe!
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10:24:29  <DJNekkid> "student"
10:24:32  <DJNekkid> my god, im mean!
10:24:35  <FooBar_> already two people left because of us :P
10:24:55  <DJNekkid> hehe... and both are rather young (afaik) :p
10:25:17  <FooBar_> dunno actually
10:25:29  <DJNekkid> beardie is 17...
10:25:32  <DJNekkid> andy i dont know, probably a bit more ...
10:25:40  <DJNekkid> around 25 like the rest of us i bet :)
10:26:18  <DJNekkid> im 28 btw (81 mod)
10:26:53  <FooBar_> I'm just as "around 25" as you are, but then at the opposite side of 25... :P
10:27:04  <DJNekkid> hehe
10:27:31  <DJNekkid> planetmaker and ammler is 32 and close to 40 iirc...
10:27:34  <Ammler> ho
10:27:42  <Ammler> did I miss something?
10:27:49  <Ammler> worth to read back?
10:27:51  <FooBar_> not much
10:27:53  <DJNekkid> lol
10:28:03  <DJNekkid> we were just trying to figure out who NekoMaster is
10:28:13  <FooBar_> we talked about nekomaster being a drug addict and how old people around here are
10:28:15  <DJNekkid>
10:28:17  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Narrow Gauge Locos for Tram Ways (at
10:28:47  <DJNekkid> he's online again, probably a new update soon :p
10:29:07  <Ammler> lol close to 40 :P
10:29:27  <Ammler> i feel old enough, you don't need to push it :P
10:29:29  <DJNekkid> well ... far from 40 then?
10:30:55  <DJNekkid> :p
10:32:29  <DJNekkid> look on the bright side, you could be a 16yr old methamphetamine unser... :P
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10:35:12  <Ammler> there is no tool which you can use for changing commits
10:35:25  <Ammler> you wuold need to strip and commit again
10:37:10  <Beardie> strip it?
10:37:22  <Beardie> well i actually don;t want it
10:37:27  <Beardie> so removing it would be nice
10:37:41  <Ammler> Beardie: you can't
10:37:45  <DJNekkid> how would commiting in the nude make it any better?  :p
10:37:47  <Beardie> ok
10:37:56  <Beardie> rofl
10:38:01  <Ammler> oh, you mean, the changeset is useless anyway?
10:38:09  <Ammler> can I strip it without replacement?
10:38:24  <Beardie> yes
10:38:43  <Beardie> yep
10:39:02  <Beardie> don;t need the file its change anyway and i only put it online for planetmaker and hes doesn't need to see it anymore
10:39:06  <Beardie> changed*
10:40:49  <planetmaker> <-- so much for referencing my age :P
10:41:03  <planetmaker> younglings! ;)
10:41:57  <Beardie> lol
10:42:04  <Beardie> i think i am the youngest here
10:42:07  <Beardie> at 18
10:42:29  <Beardie> bet my beard wins though
10:42:30  <Webster> Title: Robert Beardwell 2 by *robertbeardwell on deviantART (at
10:42:53  <Beardie> yes my name is Robert Beardwell and i have a Beard :p
10:47:10  <FooBar_> you have to, given your last name :P
10:47:46  <Beardie> yes indeed
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11:26:00  <andythenorth> Hmm, teaching neko nfo...
11:29:49  <planetmaker> you really want to do that, andythenorth ?!?
11:30:21  <planetmaker> I seriously hope, there's some kind of missing irony smiley.
11:30:26  <andythenorth> really.  No.
11:30:34  <andythenorth> But I might try anyway.
11:30:37  <andythenorth> Hey I might learn something
11:31:51  <planetmaker> uhu... good luck. I find him way too demanding and abusive.
11:32:05  <planetmaker> and way too unwilling to actually look into a problem himself.
11:32:30  <planetmaker> just read a bit back in #openttd ...
11:32:46  <planetmaker> he's one of the few who made it on my tt-forums ignore list.
11:33:06  <planetmaker> right next to leanden and sirxavius
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11:45:11  <Ammler> he, my ignore list again empty
11:45:16  <Ammler> removed alain
11:45:29  <Ammler> but might be to early ;-)
11:45:48  <Ammler> o
12:24:40  <Ammler> DJNekkid: ever been at Spitzbergen?
12:25:20  <Ammler> or how that ever might be spelled in norsk
12:29:35  <planetmaker> :) I was told you must not go there without the company of a person who has and can handle a gun :)
12:30:30  <planetmaker> at least when there was an excursion some years back to there, they had a guide with a rifle and they were told it was necessary, if you want to go there and leave actually the settlement.
12:34:31  <Ammler> :-)
12:34:43  <Ammler> just a listen a radio report about
12:36:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 149: Fixed #226: Updated B737-900 Greyscale + Xl Pngs, reduced whi... @ (by Beardie27)
12:36:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #226 (Closed): Resort B737-900 White Area @ (by Beardie27)
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13:23:00  <DJNekkid> no btw
13:23:02  <DJNekkid> i heavent been to Svalbard :)
13:23:16  <DJNekkid> Spitsbergen is one of the island in Svalbard
13:24:16  <DJNekkid> and yes, all "out of settlement" travel needs to be acompanied by someone with a rifle... in case of bear-strike :p
13:49:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - example.PNG @ (by DJNekkid)
14:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
14:04:09  <Brot6> heqs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
14:07:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - sh125-new.png @ (by DJNekkid)
14:09:44  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #228: 747-400(481D) ANA pokemon#2 @ (by simozzz_AK)
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14:13:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #229: IL 62 grayscale @ (by simozzz_AK)
14:15:08  <Ammler> DJNekkid: try to use, instead of, else I got unneeded highlight, thought, I know, is nice ;-)
14:15:59  <DJNekkid> i were told to use at some point!
14:16:00  <DJNekkid> hehe
14:16:11  <planetmaker> Ammler, you should be consequent in your forum posts, then, too ;)
14:16:25  <Beardie> Ammler, just wondering how did you make this irc chat?
14:16:34  <Ammler> oh, just copy pasted :P
14:16:51  <Ammler> Beardie: ?
14:16:54  <Ammler> the room?
14:17:00  <Beardie> yes the channel
14:17:26  <Ammler> just /join #yourfunnychannel
14:18:32  <Beardie> is ee cool
14:18:35  <Beardie> so it just makes one
14:18:47  <Ammler> if you want to make a special WAS channel, I can order Brot to output just was topics...
14:19:09  <planetmaker> Beardie, do you need a dedicated aircraft channel?
14:19:15  <Ammler> :-)
14:19:42  <Beardie> i would liek channel dedicated yes for was i have to many people on too many differnt forms of instant messaging
14:19:47  <Beardie> i need them all in one place
14:19:50  <planetmaker> it's not like this channel is over-flowing
14:20:10  <Beardie> well its up to you
14:20:15  <planetmaker> no, you ;)
14:20:32  <planetmaker> I'll stay here :). How you manage your project, is your decision :)
14:20:35  <Beardie> well i woudn't mind my own
14:20:42  <Beardie> chat
14:20:47  <Beardie> channel
14:20:56  <DJNekkid> if you ask me, ammler should drop the bold text, and we all be in the same channel ...
14:21:14  <planetmaker> just my experience is that... too much specialization doesn't help
14:21:31  <Beardie> ok
14:21:34  <planetmaker> "bold text" @ DJNekkid ? which one?
14:21:38  <Ammler> DJNekkid: there is a topic about alreadey :P
14:21:39  <andythenorth> I kind of like the low noise in this channel...
14:21:41  <DJNekkid> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #229: IL 62 grayscale @ http://dev.openttdco
14:22:01  <Ammler> ticket*
14:22:10  <Ammler> I first need to learn more ruby :-)
14:22:19  <DJNekkid> hehe
14:22:32  <DJNekkid> thats a dialect of perl or something?
14:22:40  <planetmaker> it's ruby :)
14:23:04  <Ammler> some say, using ruby is cheating, I will find out.
14:23:29  <DJNekkid> rubidum is makeing fun of me dady!
14:23:41  <DJNekkid> can you punch him down?
14:23:42  <DJNekkid> :p
14:23:49  <Beardie> So what you think shall i make my own channel or use this?
14:24:00  <DJNekkid> use this one
14:25:10  <Ammler> Beardie: you can do whatever you like
14:25:12  <planetmaker> Beardie, I actually don't really care. Whatever suits you best :)
14:25:35  <DJNekkid> i wont go on further channels tho :p
14:25:38  <Ammler> we didn't complain about your spam yet, did we? :P
14:25:51  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, exactly. 15+ channels are enough :O
14:25:54  <DJNekkid> tbh, i think its nice to see the progress :P
14:26:03  <Beardie> i use this
14:26:14  <Beardie> ok
14:26:15  <Ammler> and if you need some private room
14:26:21  <Ammler> you know, how fast it is done
14:26:33  <DJNekkid> im currently on two :p
14:26:39  <planetmaker> I know :P
14:26:45  <Beardie> well i have another new graphic artist, hes makin the ANA pokemon yellow plane, like the worlds most complicated grahpic lol
14:27:08  <Ammler> jululu?
14:27:18  <planetmaker> well. you can have him join here, if it's related to newgrf development, e.g. to the aircraft set
14:27:35  <Beardie> no simozzz
14:27:42  <DJNekkid> nooo! not jululu!
14:27:43  <Beardie> he is
14:27:49  <Beardie> not jululu
14:28:07  <Beardie> its simozz, then there is extspotter and faddypainter on here
14:28:08  <Ammler> well, I don't know him, just read in your thread about :-)
14:28:23  <Beardie> well more like i need them on here
14:28:36  <planetmaker> then kick them till they join ;)
14:29:11  <Beardie> btw i wrote a wiki page on how to use the issue section, (more likly there allready is one) its aimed at graphic artist for my set -->
14:31:15  <Beardie> i don;t know if a page in your wiki explains all that
14:32:13  <Ammler> Beardie: your version name is very long :-)
14:32:41  <Ammler> why did you include the set title there too?
14:32:53  <planetmaker> version name?
14:33:03  <Beardie> its in may wiki
14:33:05  <Beardie> my*
14:33:09  <Beardie> aimed at my set
14:33:31  <Beardie> World Airliners Set Alpha Release
14:33:42  <Beardie> is there really a limit or is it presonal prefrence?
14:33:46  <Ammler> well, you wuold add the NAME+VERSION
14:33:58  <Beardie> yes version being Alpha
14:34:06  <Ammler> no, it is just uncommon.
14:34:11  <Ammler> yep
14:34:24  <Ammler> so why you have the name there too?
14:34:31  <Beardie> as a example
14:34:50  <Beardie> in the wiki page you mean?
14:35:07  <Ammler> if you would use the Makefile template from pm, your grftitle would then be something like "World Airliners Set World Airliners Set Alpha Release"
14:35:25  <planetmaker> :)
14:35:38  <planetmaker> Soon I'll add something to the newgrf_makefile repository.
14:35:43  <Ammler> but I don't really care, if you like it that way and it works, why not.
14:35:56  <planetmaker> Then people should be able to just use that makefile(s) from there, commit them to their repo and be fine.
14:36:27  <planetmaker> What I have now just needs testing.
14:36:32  <Beardie> ok i think i will change it two alpha release ammler :)
14:36:43  <planetmaker> I think I even improved it a bit and made it better readable :) - and documented settings a bit more.
14:40:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #230: ATR42 UTair livery @ (by simozzz_AK)
14:40:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #231: Action colors removed from intro grf @ (by LordAzamath)
14:40:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: I will test it then with swiss and french town names :-)
14:41:34  <Ammler> direct LA to this channel next time he is around on IRC
14:41:42  <planetmaker> Ammler, good idea :)
14:41:45  <Ammler> we should add him as dev :-)
14:41:58  <planetmaker> yes, we should :)
14:42:05  <Ammler> oh, that is up to the Manager FooBar_ ;-)
14:42:14  <FooBar_> what?
14:42:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #230 (Assigned): ATR42 UTair livery @ (by simozzz_AK)
14:42:18  <planetmaker> well... as contributor is fine
14:42:19  <FooBar_> I wasn't paying attention...
14:42:30  <Ammler> adding LA as dev to opengfx
14:42:34  <planetmaker> LA as opengfx contributor / dev
14:42:44  <planetmaker> whatever :)
14:43:00  <Ammler> he is already constributor
14:43:17  <FooBar_> As soon as he gets commit access, he can be developer
14:43:18  <Ammler> but he could as good code the things.
14:43:24  <planetmaker> hm... developer is the one below manager, right? then I got it wrong and meant developer :)
14:44:09  <planetmaker> Ammler, different topic: the svn is on dih's server?
14:44:17  <FooBar_> I checked yesterday, and it seems that he has never coded something for OpenGFX, so I don't know if he's interested in commit access
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14:44:37  <FooBar_> But if he wants it, he can have it. And be upgraded to developer :)
14:44:47  <planetmaker> :)
14:44:48  <Ammler> planetmaker: I prefer Osai's server ;-)
14:44:59  <planetmaker> he... same thing.
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14:45:12  <planetmaker> both is un-accessible. But yeah
14:45:34  <Ammler> well, trac works for user management
14:45:37  <planetmaker> I thought of adding my "" script :)
14:45:44  <Ammler> I upgraded you as admin there too, btw.
14:45:56  <planetmaker> I got too many repositories to update, so I needed to make a script :P
14:46:03  <planetmaker> oh, ty :)
14:46:33  <planetmaker> HGREPOS="2cctrainset firs heqs opengfx worldairlineset ../trunk"
14:46:34  <planetmaker> SVNREPOS="nforenum grfcodec tbrs"
14:46:37  <Beardie> Ammler i wrote this don't know if its useful, its jsut for helping get my mets in the chat room --->> you might want to for your guides
14:46:45  <Beardie> mates*
14:47:11  <Beardie> might need a little changing
14:47:18  <planetmaker> Beardie, better use :)
14:47:26  <Ammler> didn't I already add you as Editor there?
14:47:30  <planetmaker> it's the same computer, same page, but different URL :)
14:47:32  <Beardie> yes
14:47:45  <Ammler> dev*
14:48:02  <Ammler> and sometime, it will also have a working certificate
14:48:12  <FooBar_> That guide doesn't work for me... I don't have java :P
14:48:17  <planetmaker> right ... http://dev... works, too :)
14:48:26  <Ammler> mz doesn't :P
14:48:26  <Beardie> lol i am confused :P
14:48:32  <Ammler> oh, it does
14:48:38  <Ammler> I made rewrite rule there
14:48:56  <FooBar_> Beardie: I'm talking to you, and pm and ammler are talking to one another :)
14:49:02  <planetmaker> hehe @ Ammler  :)
14:49:06  <Ammler> well, the official URL is on topic
14:49:11  <planetmaker> yes :)
14:49:20  <Ammler> Beardie: that is IRC :P
14:49:35  <Beardie> yes IRC
14:49:44  <Ammler> it is talking like in a pub
14:49:45  <Beardie> is there allready a similar apge?
14:49:58  <Beardie> page*
14:50:06  <Ammler> @wiki IRC
14:50:09  <Webster> HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error -
14:50:16  <Beardie> ok Ammler :)
14:50:22  <Ammler> oh :-(
14:50:24  <Ammler> again
14:50:29  <Ammler> again
14:50:31  <Ammler> @wiki IRC
14:50:32  <Webster> HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error -
14:50:53  <planetmaker> mäh
14:52:39  <Beardie> The whole openttdcoop site is down
14:52:45  <Beardie> "Error establishing a database connection"
14:52:46  <planetmaker> no. only www
14:52:59  <Beardie> ok
14:53:17  <planetmaker> it'd need failures in many countries before all our servers are down :)
14:53:21  <Ammler> Beardie: our server farm holds 4 different servers :P
14:53:27  <Beardie> cool
14:53:40  <Beardie> still the site is down like i said
14:53:47  <Beardie> web site
14:53:57  <Ammler> the uk one ;-)
14:53:59  <planetmaker> yes. the website obviously is currently down...
14:54:02  <planetmaker> he, yes.
14:54:30  <planetmaker> but you can still use the repository and everything at :)
14:54:33  <Ammler> germany and dutchyland is up :-P
14:54:34  <planetmaker> or our public server
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14:55:07  <Beardie> here we are
14:55:11  <Ammler> I should move my server to the "stable" CH. hehe :P
14:55:14  <Beardie> hello Simozzz
14:55:16  <planetmaker> Ammler, is there a way that we can make it so that I can use hg clone<whatever> ?
14:55:39  <planetmaker> because hg access still needs mz mandatorily.
14:56:00  <planetmaker> hey Simozzz
14:56:03  <Ammler> that should rather change to hg.openttd...
14:56:14  <planetmaker> eh?
14:56:16  <Beardie> emm he can only use russian letters, simozzz that is
14:56:23  <Ammler> ah
14:56:24  <Simozzz> Hi all
14:56:27  <Ammler> nvm :P
14:56:34  <Beardie> wait hes here lol
14:57:04  <Ammler> heya Simozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
14:57:21  <planetmaker> my precioussssssssssssss ;)
14:57:26  <Ammler> planetmaker: I try with a simple symlink
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14:58:14  <extspotter> hey?
14:58:20  <Beardie> yes extpostter is here :)
14:58:39  <Simozzz> I'm going to draw some liveries for ATR42. Be back soon.
14:58:46  <Ammler> no symlink wont work as it needs some cgi-bins
14:58:49  <extspotter> k
14:58:52  <extspotter> hi simozz
14:58:56  <Ammler> bur then maybe a rewrite
14:59:01  <Beardie> ext: lol hes gone lol
14:59:03  <Ammler> is that ok, planetmaker?
14:59:05  <Simozzz> Hi
14:59:30  <Ammler> heya was team ;-)
14:59:46  <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't mind the details. I've actually no idea how it may work in lack of the knowledge.
15:00:02  <planetmaker> But it'd be cool, if we could tell people to use dev.openttdcoop in all cases, also for mercurial.
15:00:24  <Ammler> redmine works with a special ruby mode
15:00:25  <Ammler> -e
15:00:47  <Ammler> and the hg repos need a speical cgi :-)
15:00:52  <planetmaker> right...
15:03:12  <Beardie> DJNekkid : I rearrange the whole repo with no spaces in anything, so when you pull you have to manually delete the PlaneSet folder its no longer need becuase its not added
15:04:04  <Beardie> you should like that to planetmaker
15:04:05  <DJNekkid> its supposed to remove itself if removed from the repo
15:04:18  <planetmaker> Beardie, that'll be done automatically. Use hg rename, hg remove
15:04:23  <Beardie> well for frank it didn;t, it just didn;t have a green tick or red ! next to it
15:04:28  <Beardie> i used hg remove
15:04:39  <planetmaker> ok
15:04:42  <Beardie> i removed the whole folder
15:04:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: with rewrite rule, it is peanuts:
15:04:57  <planetmaker> the ! means that it's a missing thing which was deleted but should be there.
15:05:06  <planetmaker> Ammler, works now?
15:05:35  <Ammler> testing cloning
15:06:00  <planetmaker> ingo@devera:~/ottd/grfdev> hg clone test
15:06:00  <planetmaker> real URL is
15:06:00  <planetmaker> abort: requirement '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ascii"?>' not supported!
15:06:10  <planetmaker> ^^ test result
15:06:48  <planetmaker> @Ammler ^
15:08:08  <Ammler> planetmaker: works noe
15:08:11  <Ammler> now*
15:09:17  <planetmaker> confirmed. Thank you Ammler :)
15:11:15  <planetmaker> <-- what about that link type, Ammler?
15:11:37  <Ammler> :P
15:15:21  <Ammler> planetmaker: also with rewrite
15:18:21  <planetmaker> I thought so :)
15:19:25  <planetmaker> But now we can have all(?) links pointing to the dev server itself. No others are needed anymore.
15:19:58  <planetmaker> which IMO helps the presentation and communication :)
15:20:05  <planetmaker> IF people now would exclusively use that :)
15:22:40  <planetmaker> <-- Ammler: internal error
15:23:04  <planetmaker> oh... all pages. Mae... :S
15:23:37  <Beardie> Ammler
15:23:47  <Beardie> internal error on
15:24:01  <Beardie> Internal error
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15:27:53  <Beardie> anyone?
15:28:01  <planetmaker> yes
15:28:09  <Beardie> the website has gone no?
15:28:09  <planetmaker> it will work... again.
15:28:13  <Beardie> lol
15:28:43  <planetmaker> Beardie, <Amml3r> just patience
15:28:50  <Ammler> just PATIENCE :P
15:29:07  <Ammler> but I look into it :-(
15:29:54  <planetmaker> What can I do in order to help you, Ammler ? (Except not distracting you from it by un-needed questions? :P )
15:30:16  <Ammler> well, it works
15:30:26  <Ammler> reading the error logs
15:31:00  <Beardie> i am being patience, jsut checking if soe one knew thats all
15:31:04  <Beardie> some*
15:33:17  <Ammler> google is still crawling indefero :-/
15:33:29  <planetmaker> Beardie, if you highlight the person, it will be read, if the person is online :)
15:33:54  <planetmaker> and you may notice that I wrote the exact same error report 5 lines above yours ;)
15:34:02  <planetmaker> 3 lines actually
16:07:19  <Beardie> o srry :)
16:08:02  <Beardie> error is still there, (not complaining, just letting you know)
16:11:19  <Ammler> still down? :-(
16:11:23  <planetmaker> yep
16:11:49  <Beardie> yep
16:12:02  <Ammler> hmm, but why?
16:12:44  <planetmaker> re-write rules not as good as they should be? Some crawler reading everything? Or... something else
16:13:15  <Ammler> database corrupt
16:13:52  <planetmaker> !? :O
16:13:52  <Beardie> doesn't sound good
16:17:45  <Beardie> its online now ammler
16:18:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightly compile not needed. (r72)
16:23:09  <Ammler> nothing lost? Beardie according to my db check, nothing was corrupt
16:23:15  <Ammler> I just restarted the db new
16:24:32  <Beardie> seems ok :)
16:24:44  <Simozzz> Here i am.
16:24:47  <Beardie> just waiting for r150 to appear on the site
16:24:53  <Beardie> which it will mroe likly do in time
16:25:57  <Beardie> hello simozzz
16:26:04  <Simozzz> Hi
16:26:05  <Beardie> i see you have done the UT air 42-300
16:26:46  <Beardie> did you post it on the forum
16:27:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #230: ATR42 UTair livery @ (by simozzz_AK)
16:27:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #230 (Closed): ATR42 UTair livery @ (by simozzz_AK)
16:34:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 150: Removed B2707 info from TT @ (by Beardie27)
16:34:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 151: Added basic 717-200 info to TT @ (by Beardie27)
16:36:54  <Beardie> Simozzz it come out small
16:39:24  <Simozzz> now better?
16:40:44  <Beardie> one sec
16:41:18  <Beardie> perfect :)
16:41:41  <Beardie> Simozzz is it not possible for you to get MSN?
16:42:21  <Simozzz> For what?
16:42:46  <Beardie> well see the i am not the head of graphics on this set extspotter it
16:42:48  <Beardie> is*
16:43:01  <Beardie> and he the other graphics artist are all on MSN
16:43:11  <Beardie> just its alot easier to use
16:43:30  <Simozzz> ok
16:45:10  <Simozzz> you mean MSN messenger or what?
16:47:36  <Beardie> well its called Windows Live Messenger
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16:48:22  <FooBar_> It calls itself aMSN here ;)
16:50:04  <Beardie> ok lol
16:50:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #232: Tu144 Greyscale @ (by extspotter)
16:50:54  <FooBar_> WLM is not the only client around that can use the MSN :)
16:51:05  <Simozzz> nice... Tupolev.
16:51:34  <Beardie> yes it needs sorting first by me
16:52:30  <Beardie> you sort MSN then Simozzz?
16:53:00  <Simozzz> 61% instaled
16:53:03  <Beardie> ok
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17:00:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 152: Added Simozzz ATR42 UTair to TT @ (by Beardie27)
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17:04:07  <Frankr> Simozzz
17:04:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #233: JAL MD-87 @ (by FaddyPainter)
17:04:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #233 (Closed): JAL MD-87 @ (by FaddyPainter)
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17:22:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #234: 757 Greyscale @ (by FaddyPainter)
17:26:29  <Ammler> I use Kopete for msn :-)
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17:31:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 153: fix 221 Concorde's re-alligned co-ordinates in nfo @ (by Frank)
17:31:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #221 (Closed): Update Concorde's Fixed Co-ordinates @ (by Frank)
17:31:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #228 (Assigned): 747-400(481D) ANA pokemon#2 @ (by simozzz_AK)
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18:49:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 154: A380-800 Speeds added, cost still to do @ (by Frank)
18:49:33  <DJNekkid> good work frank
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18:57:51  <andythenorth> Hello FooBar_
18:57:58  <andythenorth> How was the exam?
18:58:06  <FooBar_> Hi andy
18:58:14  <FooBar_> not so good, but hopefully good enough :)
18:59:33  <FooBar_> but if I need to, I can take it again in august
19:00:33  <andythenorth> :(
19:00:43  <DJNekkid> what is it in?
19:02:46  <FooBar_> system dynamics
19:02:57  <FooBar_> or what the proper English translation may be :)
19:03:18  <FooBar_> Either way something mechanical on dynamic forces with lots of differential equations
19:06:59  <DJNekkid> what field is this?
19:08:13  <DJNekkid> hmm...
19:08:18  <FooBar_> civil engineering
19:08:21  <DJNekkid> oki :)
19:12:43  <andythenorth> I did 1 year of civil engineering
19:12:43  <andythenorth> I didn't like civil engineering
19:12:59  <andythenorth> It had rather fewer bulldozers in it than I had been led to expect
19:13:15  <FooBar_> hahaha lol :D
19:13:38  <andythenorth> I changed course.  To be allowed to change I had to get 60% for the year
19:14:43  <FooBar_> I did a course called "construction week" in which I got to operate an excavator
19:15:44  <FooBar_> It's actually more difficult than the pros make it look like. I mostly lifted myself because I scooped too much dirt in the bucket
19:16:00  <FooBar_> Was quite fun though to have a go on :)
19:17:24  <FooBar_> If I ever get to have too much money, I'll buy me one for in the back yard. :P
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19:25:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 155: A318 and A319 speeds added @ (by Frank)
19:25:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 156: A318/319 Speeds @ (by Frank)
19:30:10  <DJNekkid> hehe,,,
19:30:34  <DJNekkid> you need a quite big one to dig what you want
19:31:25  <andythenorth> bulldozer?
19:31:39  <FooBar_> no, excavator
19:31:48  <DJNekkid> "digging machine" :)(
19:32:20  <andythenorth> I think I'd like to code a tool called "nfo Bulldozer".  I don't know what it does, but the name is good
19:32:35  <FooBar_> :)
19:33:17  <andythenorth> Perhaps it just deletes your nfo.
19:33:33  <andythenorth> We use a content management framework that has an invisible button somewhere called 'fuck up the content'
19:33:45  <andythenorth> Every so often someone presses it
19:34:14  <FooBar_> I hope it asks "do you want to continue" before it does anything...
19:34:56  <andythenorth> well we there's a full transaction log with an 'undo' feature
19:35:07  <andythenorth> which sometimes works
19:35:38  <FooBar_> sometimes...
19:35:48  <FooBar_> well, sometimes is better than never I guess :P
19:35:51  <andythenorth> well at least it uses python
19:36:05  <andythenorth> oops, risk of language war :|
19:36:12  <andythenorth> unpost that comment!
19:36:24  <andythenorth> no undo here either
19:36:28  <FooBar_> nope :P
19:36:41  <FooBar_> is it a webbased framework?
19:36:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 157: A320 Speeds Updated @ (by Frank)
19:36:56  * FooBar_ tries to fine a reason to accept the language war
19:37:01  <andythenorth> yes, it's Zope.  Zope is strange but generally good.
19:37:02  <FooBar_> find*
19:37:10  <andythenorth> tt-foundry uses it
19:37:38  <andythenorth> fully object orientated, mysql optional
19:37:52  <andythenorth> i.e. there's a full object database in the framework
19:37:52  <FooBar_> I think php is better for web based stuff
19:38:00  <andythenorth> <ducks>
19:38:04  <FooBar_> :)
19:38:11  <andythenorth> I don't do that debate.
19:38:22  <andythenorth> I'd rather be coding varaction 2 chains to write to registers
19:38:25  <andythenorth> and that's saying something
19:38:38  <FooBar_> me neither. I was just expressing my opinion under the freedom of speech :)
19:38:53  <andythenorth> nothing in else in nfo freaks me out anymore, but registers....burrrrr
19:39:15  <FooBar_> registers?
19:40:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 158: Changes to A320 and A321 Speeds/Costs @ (by Frank)
19:40:58  <andythenorth>
19:41:54  <FooBar_> ah
19:41:59  <andythenorth> registers -> persistent storage
19:42:04  <andythenorth> needed for some industry things
19:42:05  <FooBar_> I never liked the varaction2 stuff
19:42:06  <andythenorth> but not many
19:42:17  <DJNekkid> var2 is the fun parts!
19:42:22  <andythenorth> most varaction 2 is fine
19:42:26  <andythenorth> bit shifts are not
19:42:34  <andythenorth> Zephyris seems to like them
19:42:41  <FooBar_> maybe if it was documented more understandibly
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19:42:54  <Frankr> here
19:42:58  <DJNekkid> hehe
19:43:02  <DJNekkid> just an idea Frankr...
19:43:11  <Frankr> yh dj
19:43:24  <FooBar_> I like to be able to read stuff once and then understand it, but that didn't happen with varaction 2 :P
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19:43:34  <Beardie> Hello
19:43:49  <DJNekkid> on the typical long distance planes, let the "landing cost" be low
19:43:51  <DJNekkid> ehm
19:43:52  <DJNekkid> high
19:43:56  <FooBar_> As I still don't fully understand it. Maybe after some industries I will :)
19:44:04  <DJNekkid> and the short haul planes, let them be low :)
19:44:20  <FooBar_> On which I prolly start next week
19:44:37  <Frankr> well i haven't even started cost yet but i can bear that in mind
19:45:27  <DJNekkid> 0E 80 15 15 //Airplane Landing (Descent) (185)
19:45:33  <DJNekkid> that one
19:45:51  <Frankr> yh
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19:53:17  <Beardie> I am getting the error "To Many Fiels Open on system" Ammler on a hg pull -u
19:53:34  <Ammler> mh
19:53:38  <Ammler> that sucks
19:53:42  <andythenorth> Beardie: that's a special message that means you need to buy a new Dell :P
19:53:50  <Beardie> what?
19:54:01  <Beardie> now i am getting a gaint list of remote messages
19:54:40  <Beardie> now it works
19:55:13  <andythenorth> no Dell needed then
19:55:14  <Beardie> weird
19:55:22  <Ammler> well, I have to look further then, there is still some bots trying to reach the old project.
19:55:50  <Beardie> Why do a need a Dell? whats dell got that my pc hasn't kik
19:55:54  <Beardie> lol*
20:01:18  <andythenorth> Beardie: Dell stickers?
20:02:04  <andythenorth> Mine has a fruit logo on it.  And leaves .DS_Store files in every repo I use :|
20:02:20  <andythenorth> bloody thing
20:02:43  <andythenorth> but it has a proper shell
20:02:50  <andythenorth> :P
20:03:16  <andythenorth> anyway, I clearly don't have enough to do.  So I'm going to go and do something else
20:03:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #235: Code ATR42-300 UTair @ (by Beardie27)
20:03:59  <andythenorth> laters
20:04:53  <Beardie> later
20:05:50  <Ammler> andythenorth: dell is the best pc manfucaturer I know
20:06:14  <Ammler> the only alternative I could imagine is Thinkpad, but well, they don't exist anymore.
20:06:40  <Ammler> or how was the IBM model called?
20:06:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #236: Re-allign Concorde on Runway @ (by Beardie27)
20:37:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 159: Fixed #236: Concorde Alligned With Runway @ (by Beardie27)
20:37:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #236 (Closed): Re-allign Concorde on Runway @ (by Beardie27)
20:38:51  <Beardie> Ammler can you change a Bug Issue into a Feature Issue?
20:39:09  <Ammler> yes, "move"
20:39:15  <Beardie> its not there
20:39:30  <Ammler> Manager should have that
20:39:30  <Beardie> i can only change description and title
20:39:45  <Ammler> there is a link move where the update link is
20:39:47  <Beardie> this one
20:39:48  <FooBar_> I couldn't find that either when I looked for it
20:40:11  <Ammler> ah, that can't be a admin feature only.
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20:40:49  <FooBar_> never mind that, it actually is there
20:41:08  <FooBar_> I must have mislooked when I looked :)
20:41:16  <Beardie> ? i can;t se it
20:41:18  <Beardie> see*
20:42:26  <FooBar_> where there's the "update" link in the upper right corner, there also is a "move" link. Click that
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20:43:19  <Ammler>
20:44:02  <Beardie> yes
20:44:48  <Beardie> Thanks
20:46:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #234: 757 Greyscale @ (by FaddyPainter)
20:46:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 160: Updated #235 - Added UTair.pcx @ (by Beardie27)
20:48:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #235 (Assigned): Code ATR42-300 UTair @ (by Beardie27)
20:51:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 161: fix 235 Update Speeds and UTair for ATR 42-300 nfo @ (by Frank)
20:51:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 163: Merged #160 and #161 @ (by Beardie27)
20:51:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 162: Fixed #219 - Fixed White Area on JapanAirSystems.png @ (by Beardie27)
20:51:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #235 (Closed): Code ATR42-300 UTair @ (by Frank)
20:52:00  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #219 (Closed): White Area to big for MD81 JAS @ (by Beardie27)
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21:11:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 164: ATR 42-300F Speeds @ (by Frank)
21:12:33  <Beardie> Ammler what does hg commit -u do?
21:13:08  <FooBar_> hg help commit
21:13:21  <FooBar_> -u: "record user as committer"
21:13:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 165: Fixed #227 - Fixed Blue Area @ (by Beardie27)
21:13:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #227 (Closed): B747-400 Virgin Atlantic (Blue Area Problem) @ (by Beardie27)
21:13:49  <Ammler> and what does that mean? FooBar_ ?
21:14:13  <FooBar_> that I can only guess :P
21:14:35  <Ammler> and what do you guess? :P
21:14:54  <FooBar_> analog to -d it would mean that you can provide a different name for who committed the commit than set in mercurial.ini
21:15:18  <FooBar_> but I'm not sure on -d either :)
21:15:39  <Beardie> ok thanks lol, i typed it by accident
21:15:46  <FooBar_> let's see what the hg book says about it...
21:15:49  <Beardie> it openned a notepade file
21:16:08  <Beardie> with info about the commit in
21:16:18  <Beardie> i closed it and it abort the commit thank god
21:17:03  <Ammler> FooBar_: makes sense
21:17:08  <Ammler> same with svn
21:18:16  <FooBar_> "You can commit on behalf of someone else using hg commit -u "Someone Else <>"."
21:18:51  <FooBar_> from
21:18:52  <Webster> Title: Using Mercurial - MDC (at
21:18:56  <Beardie> ok lol
21:19:05  <Ammler> yeah, I use -u planetmaker to commit bugs ;-)
21:19:52  <FooBar_> lol :)
21:20:19  <FooBar_> that site I linked is actually a pretty good hg manual it seems
21:20:58  <Ammler> better as the book I linked?
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21:23:07  <Ammler> indeed, nice quick quide
21:23:31  <Ammler> also the part for abort push
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21:45:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 166: Fixed #224 - B737-300F Channel Expess Sprite Missalignment @ (by Beardie27)
21:45:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #224 (Closed): B737-300F Channel Express Sprite Missallignment @ (by Beardie27)
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21:55:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 167: Added MD87 Jal.png @ (by Beardie27)
22:03:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 168: ATR 72-200 Speeds done @ (by Frank)
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22:08:53  <Ammler> good night all
22:10:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 169: ATR 72-500 Speeds done @ (by Frank)
22:14:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #188 (Closed): Add Landing and take off Speeds to existing aircraft @ (by Frank)
22:14:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #237: B737-100 NFO @ (by Beardie27)
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22:22:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 170: Fixed #168 - Sorted All BAC 1-11-100/200/300 png Greyscales @ (by Beardie27)
22:22:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #168 (Closed): BAC1-11 Greyscales @ (by Beardie27)
22:31:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 171: Updated TT With BAc 1-11 Greyscales and tick for A380-800 Coded... @ (by Beardie27)
22:38:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 172: Updated CT with mre plane info and IDs @ (by Beardie27)
22:43:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #238: Running Costs at Different Heights @ (by Beardie27)
22:43:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #237 (Assigned): B737-100 NFO @ (by Beardie27)
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22:47:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #239: Give UTair a Name 7F_english Folder @ (by Beardie27)
22:53:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 173: Fixed #239 - Added UTair to 7F-english nfo and to 42-300 nfo @ (by Beardie27)
22:53:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #239 (Closed): Give UTair a Name 7F_english Folder @ (by Beardie27)
22:57:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 174: Fixed Small running cost problem @ (by Frank)
22:57:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 175: merge r173/174 @ (by Frank)
23:02:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 176: Fixes to ATR 42-300 nfo @ (by Frank)
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23:52:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 204: Change: rework the makefile for a more consistant form and rename a... @ (by planetmaker)

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