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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 3rd October 2009:
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01:14:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2743: Fixes Repository#find_changeset_by_name with PostgreSQL (#3937). @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2743 (by jplang)
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01:34:20  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 102M)
01:34:20  <Brot6> I was making donuts and now I'm on a bus!
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06:54:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #584: Fix or revert of r275 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/584 (by planetmaker)
06:58:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #584: Fix or revert of r275 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/584#change-1473 (by planetmaker)
06:58:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #585: file name missing @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/585 (by planetmaker)
06:58:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #586: sprite offset errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/586 (by planetmaker)
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10:21:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 279: more mus; SM4 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/279 (by DJNekkid)
10:21:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 280: more mus, X2000, mDDm, and possibly others @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/280 (by DJNekkid)
10:24:50  <Hirundo> Since some time, one can change company-specific settings through the advanced settings window
10:25:03  <Hirundo> I'm wondering if/how we could use this for IS...
10:25:16  <planetmaker> hm... good question.
10:25:24  <planetmaker> I guess the answer should probably be "yes" :-)
10:29:47  <Hirundo> easier said than done
10:30:32  <planetmaker> :-P
10:30:40  <planetmaker> I would assume so.
10:31:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13454: (svn r17681) -Fix [FS#3248] (r17668): crash when the cap... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/13454 (by Rubidium)
10:31:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13455: (svn r17682) -Codechange: remove erroneous space before ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/13455 (by Rubidium)
10:31:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13456: (svn r17683) -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/13456 (by translators)
10:31:18  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13457: Merge: trunk up to r17683 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/13457 (by Hirundo)
10:31:58  <Hirundo> Brot is limited to 4 changesets? :P
10:36:01  <planetmaker> I guess, yes
10:40:42  <Rubidium> tss... why wake me?
10:41:40  <planetmaker> good morning :-)
10:41:52  <Rubidium> morning? I just at my lunch
10:42:14  <planetmaker> hehe :-) same here. Or rather: brunch
10:42:24  <Rubidium> +e
10:57:00  <Rubidium> planetmaker: can I propose an OpenTTD playing challenge here? :)
10:57:17  <planetmaker> well, yes, you can :-)
10:57:29  <planetmaker> though this IRC channel is not really frequented by players :-)
10:57:56  <Rubidium> around christmas play 0.3.5 :)
10:57:57  <planetmaker> the better place to announce playing challanges is either #openttdcoop and our blog
10:58:02  <planetmaker> :-O
10:58:11  <Rubidium> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/19256 :)
10:58:35  <Ammler> Rubidium: are you able to compile a cross os version with 3.5?
10:58:52  <planetmaker> lool :-)
10:58:58  <Rubidium> Ammler: unlikely :) I had to fudge some files to get it to actually compile, but...
10:59:16  <Rubidium> why should I? http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/0.3.5/ anyone?
11:00:08  <Ammler> cool
11:00:53  <planetmaker> indeed
11:01:14  <Rubidium> although the OSX build might very well not work on your 'new' systems
11:01:27  <Rubidium> but you can always run the win32 binary through darwine
11:03:20  <Rubidium> by the way, 0.3.5 was released 24-12-2004 (which is why I said christmas)
11:03:25  <planetmaker> ah :-)
11:03:45  <planetmaker> we played 0.4.5 for our 100th public server game
11:03:57  <planetmaker> e.g. a few months back
11:04:27  <Rubidium> "for example a few months back"?
11:04:47  <planetmaker> :-P
11:05:02  <planetmaker> s/e.g. a/some/
11:05:36  <Rubidium> or s/e.g./i.e./
11:05:55  <Rubidium> I know it's a very common mistake
11:06:10  <planetmaker> i.e. = in exemplum = example given - if I don't err? ;-)
11:06:21  <Rubidium> id est
11:06:36  <Rubidium> exempli gratia
11:06:48  <planetmaker> :-)
11:08:23  <planetmaker> Rubidium: you also got a nice scenario proposal for that version?
11:08:30  <planetmaker> or just a "plain game"?
11:08:54  <Rubidium> could be a good 5 year anniversary for openttdcoop too (according to the history wiki page: #openttdcoop started in late 2004/early 2005)
11:09:08  <planetmaker> yup :-)
11:10:57  <planetmaker> true
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11:12:06  <Rubidium> probably use some TTD savegame or so :)
11:12:08  <Ammler> make didn't work here
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11:12:40  <DJNekkid> good morning ppl :)
11:12:43  <Ammler> he, might need to try the deb package
11:15:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 281: found a glitch in template-highs pax spritesheet, it had wrong y-of... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/281 (by DJNekkid)
11:15:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 282: fixed a couple of strings that werent changed properly @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/282 (by DJNekkid)
11:16:45  <Ammler> sali DJNekkid
11:16:57  <planetmaker> moin DJNekkid
11:16:57  <Ammler> I have a quote for you :-)
11:17:02  <Ammler> [12:32] <Brot6> [18:18:27] 2cctrainset: compile completely failed!  - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/compile-log/2cctrainset-FAILED-compile-error.log
11:17:29  <DJNekkid> if you are able to "force" a rebuild now, see if it works. It does on my local copy...
11:17:58  <Ammler> well, we could, but I trust you :-P
11:22:24  <DJNekkid> okidoki >(
11:22:25  <DJNekkid> :)
11:22:40  <DJNekkid> bah, i hate when my kaybord turns to english!
11:43:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 283: Added BM73 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/283 (by DJNekkid)
11:57:07  <Ammler> any suggestions? http://openttdcoop.org/mysql-tuning.log
11:57:55  <DJNekkid> not entierly my cup of tea...
11:58:27  <Rubidium> oh lovely... colour codes
11:58:30  <Rubidium> ... not!
12:00:14  <Rubidium> the join queries thingy?
12:00:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 284: added ET420 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/284 (by DJNekkid)
12:03:06  <Ammler> hmm, yes it looks nicer on the console
12:04:39  <Rubidium> I suggest to just follow the tips in the document
12:06:48  <Ammler> yes, I will...
12:29:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 135: Add: using DanMacK's fishing boat as medium utility vessel @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/135 (by andythenorth)
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13:54:01  <andythenorth> Fish, fish fish...fish fish
13:54:48  <Ammler> Hai, hai, hai...
13:55:11  <Ammler> ah, that isn't English :-P
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13:56:30  <andythenorth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSpfZ9I1Qok
13:56:31  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Mr Scruff Fish (at www.youtube.com)
14:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated.
14:10:33  <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/infrastructure-sharing/ initiated.
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14:45:43  <DJNekkid> hi again guys >(
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15:09:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #586 (Closed): sprite offset errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/586#change-1474 (by DJNekkid)
15:20:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 285: added HSA and possible bugfixes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/285 (by DJNekkid)
15:55:01  <Ammler> ok, changed some configs in the mysql, I hope, it is more stable now...
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15:55:13  <Ammler> will make another check after some hours...
16:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r272 to r285, starting nightly compile
16:18:30  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: compile completely failed! :-( - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/compile-log/2cctrainset-FAILED-compile-error.log
16:18:30  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217)
16:18:30  <Brot6> fish: update from r134 to r135, starting nightly compile
16:18:56  <Brot6> fish: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/
16:18:57  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
16:18:57  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r14)
16:18:57  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r205)
16:18:58  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41)
16:18:58  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r582)
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16:39:57  <Ammler> djn is never online when compile farm runs :-)
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16:53:05  <DJNekkid> any errors on todays nightly_
16:53:10  <DJNekkid> ?
16:53:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 286: added radbe510 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/286 (by DJNekkid)
16:58:32  <Rubidium> well... it didn't say 2cctrainset: compile done (n errors) - <url>
16:58:57  <DJNekkid> okidoki :) good!
16:58:57  <Rubidium> more like compile completely failed
17:08:49  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/download.php?file=2cctrainset/nightlies/compile-log/2cctrainset-FAILED-compile-error.log
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17:18:06  <Ammler> evil pm, kicked dj out ;-)
17:18:20  <planetmaker> :`(
17:18:35  <Ammler> that was too much for him
17:18:44  <Ammler> he will again be drunk tomorrow morning
17:18:55  <planetmaker> :-D
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17:51:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #586 (Reopened): sprite offset errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/586#change-1475 (by planetmaker)
17:53:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 136: Change: added bow / prop wash to fishing boat, also added source psd for fis... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/136 (by andythenorth)
18:02:04  <Rubidium> don't forget the sea gulls!
18:03:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #585: file name missing @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/585#change-1476 (by planetmaker)
18:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated.
18:16:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #586 (Reopened): sprite offset errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/586#change-1475 (by planetmaker)
18:16:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 287: Fix: Uppercase != lower case for filenames, in 90% of the MU templa... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/287 (by planetmaker)
18:16:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #585 (Closed): file name missing @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/585#change-1477 (by planetmaker)
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18:25:19  <DJNekkid> heey! all MU's have been coded except the TGV-A, and that one needs some work on the wagons :)
18:25:34  <planetmaker> hey, ho, DJN
18:25:36  <planetmaker> pull
18:26:06  <DJNekkid> what did u do? :)
18:26:10  <planetmaker> and mind my commit message :-P
18:26:20  <Ammler> he fixed your faults :-P
18:26:25  <planetmaker> of course
18:26:43  <planetmaker> and gave a verbose commit message ;-)
18:27:33  <DJNekkid> oh ... upper/lower case ...
18:28:08  <DJNekkid> its because in the templates its "nnn" where it needs to be replaced by, for example, BM73
18:28:15  <planetmaker> and why did you close the "pure white" issue, if it isn't fixed at all?
18:28:31  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: yes, so?
18:28:37  <DJNekkid> so i just ctrl-h -> nnn | BM73
18:28:40  <DJNekkid> save and go :)
18:28:44  <planetmaker> eh?
18:28:55  <planetmaker> and what stops you using lower case?
18:29:18  <DJNekkid> the preprocessor dont read lower case properly
18:29:21  <planetmaker> oh. also in other places than the filename?
18:29:29  <planetmaker> hehe. Mind it, though
18:29:35  <DJNekkid> in 39 spots total per template
18:29:54  <DJNekkid> but i'll try to remember it the next time, but there are only VERY few mus left to code ...
18:30:01  <DJNekkid> but the pure white issue ...
18:30:30  <DJNekkid> i dont have any pure white issues in my local copy ... not sure why you do
18:31:07  <Rubidium> then a) you haven't committed the fixes yet and b) you haven't pushed it yet
18:31:16  <planetmaker> ^^
18:31:26  <Rubidium> (or c: you have disabled the warning)
18:31:34  <planetmaker> most probably :-D
18:31:57  <DJNekkid> not disabled warning, it is commited and pushed
18:32:15  <planetmaker> makefile.local?
18:32:57  <DJNekkid> the only thing i have there thats not commented out  is : INSTALLDIR = c:/data/openttd/data
18:33:44  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: http://paste.openttd.org/217110
18:34:03  <planetmaker> what does hg st tell you?
18:34:33  <DJNekkid> what am i looking for ?
18:34:35  <Rubidium> hg clone http://dev.openttdcoop.org/hg/2cctrainset && make -C 2cctrainset <- reproduces the white errors for me
18:34:44  <Rubidium> s/errors/warnings/
18:35:17  <Ammler> is -C bypassed to gcc?
18:35:52  <Ammler> ah, the folder
18:36:47  <Rubidium> oh, that -C ;)
18:36:56  <planetmaker> :-D
18:37:00  <Rubidium> that makes some sense
18:37:57  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: but before you add even more, I STRONGLY propose to fix ALL remaining errors
18:38:02  <DJNekkid> according to that paste planetmaker, the 594 should have lots of pure white on the mail wagon
18:38:14  <DJNekkid> i dont see any ingame ...?
18:38:20  <planetmaker> or fixing them will only get MORE annoying than did r287 where I had to open 23 files and fix 1...5 letters in each
18:39:18  <Rubidium> DJNekkid: just open the pcx in GIMP
18:39:38  <DJNekkid> i dont have gimp ...
18:40:00  <planetmaker> Check the colours then in the graphics programme of your choice
18:40:06  <planetmaker> which supports palettes :-)
18:40:08  <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/594.png <- spot the error in that image
18:40:30  <DJNekkid> wtf ...
18:40:32  <Rubidium> free hint: 4th row (counting from 1)
18:40:38  <DJNekkid> its not like that at all on my side ...
18:40:42  <planetmaker> hahaha :-)
18:41:32  <planetmaker> *that* looks pretty weired
18:42:43  <DJNekkid> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/421/594.PNG
18:42:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - 594.PNG @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/421/594.PNG (by DJNekkid)
18:43:42  <DJNekkid> how come it dont upload properly then ?
18:43:42  <Ammler> DJNekkid: Rubidium might have loaded the pcx
18:44:02  <Rubidium> Ammler: DJNekkid might have loaded the pcx
18:44:24  <Ammler> yes, that's what I meant :-D
18:45:09  <Ammler> strange, indeed.
18:45:11  <DJNekkid> what do you mean?
18:45:30  <Rubidium> actually... I *think* it's the windows line to unix line conversion that's messing about
18:45:48  <planetmaker> in pcx files?!
18:45:49  <Ammler> dunno, if djn does that use that
18:46:12  <DJNekkid> i were told to enter something into some .ini or .cfg file a month or so ago
18:46:45  <Ammler> could you paste that
18:46:54  <Rubidium> planetmaker: YES
18:47:14  <planetmaker> that'd be very unfortunate
18:47:32  <Rubidium> planetmaker: as the manual of the HG thingy states quite clearly, it doesn't know about binary/non-binary files
18:47:51  <planetmaker> hm... :S
18:48:05  <DJNekkid> **.txt = dumbencode:
18:48:05  <DJNekkid> etc
18:48:10  <DJNekkid> under [encode] and [decode]
18:48:31  <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/217111
18:48:33  <DJNekkid> it were that iirc
18:48:53  <Rubidium> cleverencode?
18:49:18  <DJNekkid> as i saied, i dont know what it does, i were told to add it by either planetmaker or Ammler
18:50:29  <Ammler> :-D
18:50:32  <Ammler> lol
18:52:21  <Ammler> but it seems right :-/
18:52:26  <planetmaker> try to add **.pcx = !
18:52:32  <planetmaker> in both encode and decode sections
18:53:03  <planetmaker> same possibly with png, xls, psd types
18:53:14  <DJNekkid> to clever or dumb?
18:53:15  <Ammler> hmm, that would be silly, imo
18:53:30  <planetmaker> **.pcx = !
18:53:35  <planetmaker> no clever or dumb ;-)
18:53:44  <Ammler> why does it need to convert then?
18:53:57  <planetmaker> the file has sections [encode] and [decode]
18:54:17  <Ammler> but why not simply skip binaries?
18:54:51  <planetmaker> Ammler: yeah, tell it / me / us how to and we're happy, I guess :-)
18:54:58  <Rubidium> Ammler: cleverencode *should* skip binaries, but apparantly it doesn't think the pcx file *is* a binary file
18:56:35  <DJNekkid> im not sure, but _could_ it be that im on a 3G connection while outside, and on a rather low signal wireless when at home _
18:56:37  <DJNekkid> ?
18:56:38  <Ammler> well, if I read that: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Win32TextExtension
18:56:40  <Webster> Title: Win32TextExtension - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com)
18:56:52  <Ammler> you either use one or the other but not both
18:57:27  <planetmaker> that's where I took my wisdom from ;-)
18:57:47  <planetmaker> and why I said "try" instead of "use" ;-)
18:58:16  <Ammler> yeah, but why not do it like it tells before try new things?
18:58:30  <planetmaker> you want to disable it completely?
18:58:43  <planetmaker> what does it tell in your opinion?
18:59:08  <Ammler> not using cleverdecode
18:59:17  <planetmaker> uhu-oh: DJNekkid "Note: do not change the encode or decode filter settings while you have files checked out - use hg update null to remove any working files first. "
18:59:37  <Rubidium> planetmaker: uhm.. delay that 'order'
18:59:47  <Rubidium> cause only in *his* working copy the files are right
18:59:57  <Rubidium> the repo is fucked up, not his working copy
19:00:01  <planetmaker> yes, true
19:00:17  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: make a copy of your dir first ;-)
19:00:22  <DJNekkid> oki...
19:00:39  <planetmaker> or make a clean checkout with the changed filter settings
19:00:52  <Rubidium> although safest would probably be a fresh clone with the right settings, copy all files from the current (correct) working copy (except the .hg directory) to the fresh checkout and commit+push that
19:01:14  <DJNekkid> and i should ... just remove the [de/encode] things?
19:01:20  <planetmaker> no, DJNekkid
19:01:48  <planetmaker> but it seems right :-/
19:01:50  <planetmaker> [20:52]	<planetmaker>	try to add **.pcx = !
19:01:51  <planetmaker> [20:52]	<planetmaker>	in both encode and decode sections
19:01:58  <DJNekkid> oki
19:02:06  <Rubidium> how happy I am I did not have to explain this mumbo to Belugas :)
19:02:21  <planetmaker> but only in the fresh clone of the 2cctrainset, oki? DJNekkid ?
19:02:33  <planetmaker> Rubidium: why or how so?
19:02:55  <planetmaker> that sounds it's like fun to explain this kind of things to him... :D
19:03:19  <Rubidium> because Belugas isn't very good with unknown tools
19:03:23  <Rubidium> like DJNekkid
19:03:30  <planetmaker> :-D
19:03:41  <Ammler> planetmaker: setting a rule for files, which not need to convert is worse than setting rules for files which needs
19:03:44  <Rubidium> and having a tool that does "the right thing" out of the box is better for that 'class' of people
19:04:06  <planetmaker> Ammler: he :-) yeah, maybe we should go that way
19:05:19  <Ammler> IMO, foobar's esample has glitches
19:05:24  * planetmaker also prefers tools which do the right thing [TM] out of the box
19:07:01  <Ammler> well, that is a clear + for svn
19:07:43  <DJNekkid> well, files are downloading now
19:08:39  <DJNekkid> and i added "**.pcx = !" to mecurial.ini
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19:10:49  <DJNekkid> then i copy over the other 2cc files (except .hg folder) and commit + push ?
19:12:03  <Ammler> hmm, I thought, you should pull your files?
19:12:22  <Ammler> ah
19:12:24  <DJNekkid> over my files? are you mad? that will ruin all of my working files?
19:12:31  <Ammler> I should read all
19:13:21  <Rubidium> DJNekkid: copy the files from your working copy *over* the files in the checkout you just made (except the .hg dir)
19:13:28  <DJNekkid> yes :)
19:13:34  <DJNekkid> once its downloaded...
19:14:07  <planetmaker> you might first want to check how the PCX files of the checkout look like
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19:15:37  <DJNekkid> lol ...
19:15:49  <DJNekkid> we had an election in norway not too long ago, a couple of weeks or something >(
19:15:50  <DJNekkid> :)
19:16:19  <DJNekkid> and a guy who voted far right just complained on facebook that a train didnt come as scheduled...
19:16:32  <DJNekkid> and the far right parties are all in all against all rail, and pro roads
19:17:13  <DJNekkid> anyway planetmaker ... what more errors did you find ?
19:17:31  <Rubidium> DJNekkid: but... it's railroad :)
19:17:37  <planetmaker> the whole pre-processor madness?
19:17:40  <planetmaker> with the languages?
19:18:06  <planetmaker> simple templates, but does not yet work
19:18:09  <DJNekkid> well, i've only done stuff with the english one, i didnt touch the other ones yet
19:18:24  <planetmaker> did you see the log?
19:18:47  <planetmaker> two screens full of "not matching " "
19:19:02  <planetmaker> all in english.pnfo
19:19:12  <DJNekkid> not matching " " ?
19:19:21  <DJNekkid> that is more or less the point ..
19:19:33  <DJNekkid> as stuff within " "'s dont get preprocessed
19:19:53  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/584
19:20:01  <planetmaker> yes.
19:20:04  <planetmaker> I know
19:20:35  <DJNekkid> so i added a " to the first word on the line
19:21:13  <DJNekkid> so i dont really see the error ...
19:21:32  <planetmaker> ? Did you look at the link I just gave?
19:21:46  <DJNekkid> yes i do
19:21:46  <DJNekkid> did
19:22:07  <planetmaker> and you think it's ok?
19:22:24  <DJNekkid> look at the english languagefile
19:22:31  <planetmaker> *sigh*
19:22:51  <DJNekkid> #define WORD_CC         "Carriage Capacity ...
19:22:55  <DJNekkid> WORD_CC: " 8A "MU_594_CAP_WAG_PAX_STR WORD_PAX / MU_594_CAP_WAG_MAIL_STR WORD_MAIL / MU_594_CAP_WAG_ARMOR_STR WORD_ARMOR"  "\n"
19:23:04  <DJNekkid> i.e.
19:23:21  <DJNekkid> it would not be a "matching" number of "'s
19:23:40  <DJNekkid> so yes, as far as i can tell is that OK
19:24:16  <planetmaker> as far as the pre-processor tells, it's worth a warning for each line
19:24:43  <planetmaker> and the number of " is uneven.
19:25:51  <DJNekkid> it IS uneven, its intended
19:26:28  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: that's the same code quality as if pcx contain pure white pixels in the area which is displayed
19:26:50  <planetmaker> e.g. if they have pure white bars in case of ICE or pure white head lights
19:27:08  <planetmaker> this way of coding strings will dis-allow us to find any error any time soon
19:27:24  <planetmaker> even if it works as intended
19:27:43  <planetmaker> *I* don't feel like debuging such things
19:28:31  <DJNekkid> well, we could do it the same way as in the prev. version, but now if we update the .XLS file with new capacities its will be autoupdated... (via a copy/paste an a run of TR)
19:30:33  <planetmaker> and honestly I'm a bit annoyed that about three dozen trains are already commited and any error fixing is thus to be done 36 times as often :-(
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19:31:00  <planetmaker> and honestly I'm a bit annoyed that about three dozen trains are already commited and any error fixing is thus to be done 36 times as often :-(
19:31:05  <planetmaker> isntead of allowing an easy fix with a simple case where we could get things tested easily
19:31:20  <planetmaker> and then commit the remaining stuff in an all-proper way
19:31:34  <planetmaker> it's a rush at the wrong time
19:31:52  <DJ_Nekkid> well ... i thought i had tested things pretty good already
19:31:52  <planetmaker> fixing the foundations after the roof is erected
19:32:23  <DJ_Nekkid> and when things work in my local copy, then im not sure what to fix...
19:32:50  <planetmaker> add that to me working 60+ hours the weeks currently and you see how much time and motivation I might have to do long-hour fixing
19:33:27  <DJ_Nekkid> i know, i've had it like that the last month and a half...
19:33:54  <planetmaker> you surely had also all this warnings in the pre-compiler?
19:34:06  <DJ_Nekkid> nope...
19:34:19  <planetmaker> about the strings? in english.pnfo?
19:34:46  <planetmaker> now, that'd be odd
19:36:25  <planetmaker> mind to post the file you get, if you do
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19:36:35  <DJ_Nekkid> im makeing as we speak
19:37:11  <DJ_Nekkid> you mean, the .grf ?
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19:44:35  <planetmaker> hm... how did I pipe everything into one file...
19:46:36  <Rubidium> echo "everything" > file
19:47:22  <Rubidium> or cat * > file, although depending on how it is evaluated you might end up with feeding file into file
19:48:14  <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid:
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19:48:22  <planetmaker> make mrproper && make 2>log
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19:48:30  <planetmaker> I'd be interested in the contents of the file called log
19:49:34  <DJ_Nekkid> what does this proper-guy do? :p
19:50:27  <planetmaker> or rather
19:50:40  <planetmaker> make mrproper && make > log 2&>1
19:50:48  <planetmaker> mrproper deletes all stuff make ever generates
19:51:06  <DJ_Nekkid> the file called log is completely empty ...
19:51:25  <DJ_Nekkid> "error in command syntax"
19:51:55  <planetmaker> with the 2nd version I posted?
19:52:19  <DJ_Nekkid> empty log in first, error on the 2nd
19:52:33  <planetmaker> ok, try in single lines
19:52:36  <planetmaker> make mrproper
19:52:52  <DJ_Nekkid> is that the same as make clean or something?
19:52:52  <planetmaker> make > log 2>&1
19:52:59  <planetmaker> mixed up > and & :-P
19:53:06  <planetmaker> yes. but a bit more thorough ;-)
19:53:59  <DJ_Nekkid> but planetmaker...
19:54:09  <planetmaker> hm?
19:54:28  <DJ_Nekkid> if all of the extra plist info lines is wrong in english.pnfo
19:54:32  <DJ_Nekkid> then get them deleted
19:54:42  <DJ_Nekkid> fix the template that on the top
19:54:50  <DJ_Nekkid> and then its easy to add them again
19:55:29  <planetmaker> say again?
19:56:12  <DJ_Nekkid> almost on the top in the english languagefile ...
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19:56:27  <DJ_Nekkid> there is a "template" on how the extra P-list info text is ...
19:56:30  <DJ_Nekkid> with nnn's
19:56:38  <DJ_Nekkid> that can be replaced by <train-name>
19:56:43  <DJ_Nekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/217112
19:56:47  <DJ_Nekkid> there is my log btw
19:57:36  <DJ_Nekkid> well, parts of it
19:57:45  <DJ_Nekkid> Sprite 2412  Done: 99%  Compressed: 48% (Transparency:100%, Redundancy: 46%)
19:57:45  <DJ_Nekkid> Renaming 2cctrainset.grf to 2cctrainset.bak
19:57:46  <DJ_Nekkid> Replacing 2cctrainset.grf with 2cctrainset.new
19:57:46  <DJ_Nekkid> Done!
19:57:50  <DJ_Nekkid> thats the last 4 lines
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20:00:21  <planetmaker> hm
20:01:04  <planetmaker> and that's in the newly checked out dir, after running mrproper with make > log 2>&1 ?
20:01:13  <DJ_Nekkid> exactly
20:01:22  <planetmaker> interesting to say at least
20:01:51  <Rubidium> interesting in what way?
20:02:11  <Rubidium> no preprocessor warnings? Might be the ancient gcc he's using
20:02:11  <planetmaker> though the "Found pseudosprite continuation line while looking for sprite 1." lines bug me, it's error free, also wrt the pre-processor
20:02:21  <planetmaker> yeah, probably then
20:02:32  <planetmaker> can't blame you then, DJ_Nekkid :-P
20:02:35  <planetmaker> Too bad for me
20:03:00  <planetmaker> But it doesn't change the facts...
20:03:44  <DJ_Nekkid> that you dont like the uneven quote-marks ?
20:04:02  <planetmaker> yes. for the given reasons
20:04:48  <DJ_Nekkid> well ... im open to suggestions, can even install extra software if needed, but now atleast it works
20:04:52  <planetmaker> no warning for you with your gcc doesn't mean it's proper ;-)
20:05:33  <planetmaker> you rightfully called it "hack" ;-)
20:05:40  <DJ_Nekkid> sure did
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20:40:07  <DJNekkid> sorry, i moved into the nightclub, and i disconnected ... got a gig in ... 30 mins or something :)
20:44:05  <planetmaker> :-)
20:44:13  <planetmaker> enjoy I say and good night
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20:46:48  <yorick> heh, he's really a DJ
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20:49:39  <planetmaker> of course
20:50:22  * yorick didn't know :(
20:50:30  <yorick> he's even on youtube
20:53:11  <DJNekkid> that old clip? :)
20:53:54  <DJNekkid> http://www.facebook.com/pages/DJ-Nekkid/139167125039?ref=ts
21:03:41  <planetmaker> he... you got a special DJN facebook account?
21:05:05  <DJNekkid> no
21:05:14  <DJNekkid> i just made a "page" where ppl can become fans :)
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21:10:22  <planetmaker> ah
21:10:51  <DJNekkid> i did get 40 fans in a good week :)(
21:11:09  <DJNekkid> and atleast 7 or 8 of them arent any of my "normal" friends :)
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21:19:25  <planetmaker> he, nice!
21:21:04  <DJNekkid> hehe!
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21:42:31  <yorick> :)
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21:44:16  <DJNekkid> :D:D
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22:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated.
22:24:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 583: Corrected the 747-400 Korean Air name @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/583 (by Frank)
22:43:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #587: Malev 737-600 tail changes to company colour @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/587 (by Frank)
22:43:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #588: British Airways 737-400 company colour error @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/588 (by Frank)

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