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02:29:15 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:29:20 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 03:34:59 *** PeterT has quit IRC 04:20:42 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:22:43 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 15:55:42 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:58:11 <DJNekkid> damn, the freight wagon template is getting rather ... complicated :) 15:58:25 <DJNekkid> but; adding new wagons, _should_ be really really easy 15:58:46 <DJNekkid> but we might need to make a cargo translation table quite soon 15:59:52 <DJNekkid> unless we dont plan to have ECS/PBI/FIRS support gfxwise... 16:12:06 <planetmaker> well, we do. But having the GFX first doesn't hurt. 16:12:27 <planetmaker> I prefer to do most via classes. And only add those to the table which need explicit support 16:12:40 <planetmaker> (which might be quite some actually) 16:12:42 <DJNekkid> yup, but some do ... 16:12:49 <DJNekkid> all "open car" stuff... 16:13:02 <planetmaker> yup 16:20:55 <DJNekkid> why the CRAP is livestock Piece goods 17:00:56 <planetmaker> you hardly put livestock into a self-discharging hopper, do you? 17:01:01 <planetmaker> nor in a tanker 17:09:25 <DJNekkid> no... 17:09:32 <DJNekkid> but you can, on a flatbed 17:09:43 <DJNekkid> if you give it cargoclass 20 (piece goods) 17:10:13 *** Zuu has quit IRC 17:10:33 <planetmaker> flatbeds are not suitable for livestock 17:10:40 <DJNekkid> hehe, nope... 17:12:07 <DJNekkid> why i think they rather should be: 17:12:07 <DJNekkid> 9 200 covered/sheltered freight (any cargo needing moisture protection, i.e. transportation in box vans, silo wagons or containers required) 17:12:52 <planetmaker> yes. covered + piece good sounds good for lifestock, no? 17:13:02 <DJNekkid> yes... 17:13:24 <planetmaker> are there wagons which are not suitable for lifestock and fullfill that condition? 17:13:39 <DJNekkid> a "boxcar" ? 17:15:02 <planetmaker> hm... shouldn't it? 17:15:10 <DJNekkid> oh, sorry 17:15:21 <DJNekkid> i didnt read the "not" :p 17:17:17 <planetmaker> well, then it's settled: lifestock is piece + sheltered 17:17:34 <DJNekkid> hehe... 17:18:05 <DJNekkid> wanna convince some OpenTTD dev, and/or supply a patch? :P 17:18:30 <planetmaker> for what? 17:18:48 <DJNekkid> or, shal we "fix" that via the train-grf? :P 17:19:02 <planetmaker> what? 17:19:14 <DJNekkid> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels 17:19:22 <DJNekkid> livestock IS piecegoods 17:19:51 <planetmaker> ah. Then it cannot be changed 17:19:59 <DJNekkid> it _can_ 17:20:01 <DJNekkid> via newgrf :P 17:20:19 <planetmaker> yes. But that's not a change to be made in the source. It'd break all other newgrfs 17:20:30 <planetmaker> defined is defined. And it's defined for ages 17:20:46 <DJNekkid> hehe... :) 17:20:49 <DJNekkid> exactly :) 17:20:54 <DJNekkid> but that definition is wrong :P 17:21:00 <planetmaker> well... :-) 17:21:17 <DJNekkid> hehe 17:21:24 <planetmaker> so we need lifestock in the CTT and assign NOT lifestock to flatbeds 17:21:37 <DJNekkid> i know... 17:23:07 <planetmaker> Do we have a list of wagons and the gfx for special cargos somewhere? 17:23:21 <planetmaker> e.g. which cargos we have which have dedicated support? 17:23:25 <DJNekkid> no... well ... kinda ... 17:23:32 <DJNekkid> im trying to make that list... 17:24:19 <DJNekkid> what we _do_ have support for is all default cargos in the 3 "proper" climates 17:40:31 *** Madis has quit IRC 18:19:55 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:35:51 *** Madis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:12:34 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: didnt you make a newcargo spreadsheet once? is it working as intended? 19:20:48 <DJNekkid> DJNekkid: yes he did, wagon-cargos.ods 19:20:52 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3122: Merged r3277 to r3279 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3122> || Redmine - Revision 3110: Bulk edit view cleanup. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3110> || Redmine - Revision 3109: Allow bulk edit custom fields of any type (#461). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3109> || Redmine - Revision 3108: Fixed: bulk edit doesn't include global custom fields (#4505). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3108> || Redmine - Revision 3121: Translation updates. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3121> || Redmine - Revision 3107: Translation update. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3107> || Redmine - Revision 3106: Translation update. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3106> 19:46:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:48:24 <DJNekkid> is it possible to let the preprocessor substract stuff? 19:48:41 <DJNekkid> #define THIS_WAG_NUM_CARGOS = THIS_WAG_NUM_CARGOS-1 19:48:45 <DJNekkid> or something similar 19:53:26 <DJNekkid> no, i dont need that, it can count itself 19:55:09 *** Madis has quit IRC 20:04:44 <Paul2> THIS_IS_NUMBERWANG! 20:04:49 <Paul2> </helpful> 20:06:57 <DJNekkid> <dontunderstand> 20:22:09 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:24:14 <Paul2> ah wait...are you from the UK? 20:24:25 <DJNekkid> .no :) 20:24:45 <Paul2> you will probably not find this funny, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkQB0f1hks but there we go :) 20:24:46 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Number Wang (at www.youtube.com) 20:56:07 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing patches - Revision 2: Update to trunk r18696 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2-patches/repository/revisions/2> 20:59:29 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:09:36 <DJNekkid> planetmaker or Ammler online? 21:11:25 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Feature #145: Redo (all) (cargo) wagons <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/145#change-1879> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14597: [IS] Update to trunk r18696 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14597> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14595: [IS] Add .trunk.rev containing the latest trunk revision... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14595> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14596: (svn r18696) -Fix [FS#3404]: AITile::IsCoastTile returne... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14596> 21:46:57 <planetmaker> what's up, DJNekkid ? 21:47:27 <DJNekkid> wanna have a look at thoose files i uploaded at bug 145? 21:53:13 <planetmaker> the idea looks good. If you like a more sound comment I have to stave you off to tomorrow 21:53:53 <DJNekkid> no problem... 22:08:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:51:52 *** PeterT has quit IRC 22:52:03 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:53:16 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:53:41 *** PeterT has quit IRC 22:54:09 *** PeterT_ is now known as PeterT 22:56:15 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone