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00:12:23 <Ammler> Sorry, I have real issues to see sense of that 32bpp project.. hmmm :-/ 00:13:25 <Rubidium> Ammler: it keeps them from the street and going into crime, besides that... 00:14:07 <Rubidium> their decisiveness is worse than the US Senate on the health bill 00:23:07 <Ammler> is btw. pngcodec also able to decode? 00:23:52 <Rubidium> probably not 'cause there isn't much to decode 00:24:24 <Ammler> hmm, yes, you need a metafile somehow 00:25:58 <Ammler> how do you get the offsets of a png for reencode after you edited it? 00:26:54 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:27:09 <Rubidium> no idea 00:58:57 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest2940 00:58:59 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:04:50 *** Guest2940 has quit IRC 01:14:00 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:14:06 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:18:29 *** PeterT has left #openttdcoop.devzone 01:18:29 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:19:03 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:41:20 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 01:41:33 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:51:15 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest2945 01:51:17 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:56:49 *** Guest2945 has quit IRC 02:23:10 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 02:24:21 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:27:13 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 02:43:47 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:57:29 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:17:18 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 03:34:50 *** PeterT has quit IRC 04:39:00 *** Frankr has quit IRC 06:27:27 *** Rubidium_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:27:27 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 08:29:45 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:38:14 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 10:19:05 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:22:40 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:39:16 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:43:54 *** PeterT has quit IRC 12:06:00 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:54:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 13:07:07 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:06:24 <Ammler> planetmaker: are you in active discussion about 32bpp? 15:06:37 <Ammler> according to the "organisation" thread 15:06:49 <planetmaker> uh... not really 15:07:34 <planetmaker> well, anasthasios still obviously wants to pull a 32bpp openGFX replacement. Which is fine IMO 15:07:53 <planetmaker> But his upload last night is... less fine IMO ;-) No proper repo and license 15:08:07 <planetmaker> I asked him already though, what the issue is with a repo. But no reply so far 15:08:08 <Ammler> quite ugly indeed 15:08:52 <Ammler> well, the issue with him is, that he doesn't participate in tt-forums 15:09:00 <planetmaker> yeah. 15:09:10 <planetmaker> Well. He was banned there 15:09:27 <Ammler> IMO, the jupix repo is fine start 15:09:56 <Ammler> they should force GPL there 15:09:56 <planetmaker> yes, it is. But still. No proper versioning and no proper control and tracking. 15:10:32 <Ammler> hmm, isn't it versioned? 15:10:32 <planetmaker> But I don't want to stop anasthasios going the OpenGFX 32bpp path either. Why should I / we? 15:10:39 <planetmaker> Well, yes, it is somewhat 15:10:42 <Ammler> you should also be easy able to fork 15:11:32 <planetmaker> Well. I would still like to see a proper repo with a makefile ;-) 15:11:53 <Ammler> it is a requirement, as you need to compile the offsets 15:12:06 <planetmaker> yeah. 15:12:30 <Ammler> either with a Makefile or a commit hook 15:12:49 <planetmaker> how does a commit hook help there to align sprites? 15:13:03 <Ammler> well, the hook could run the make 15:13:15 <planetmaker> well. yes. 15:13:33 <planetmaker> but that's then only a comfort issue ;-) 15:14:01 <Ammler> the other issue is, what to do with the zoom levels 15:14:49 <planetmaker> yes. I'm not sure about it. 15:15:09 <planetmaker> It might be an idea to issue two versions: one trunk-worthy and one for the zoom-level patch 15:15:19 <planetmaker> But... 15:37:10 <Ammler> issued reboot... 15:40:51 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:41:58 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 15:41:59 *** Ammler has quit IRC 15:41:59 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:21:02 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:21:09 *** Ammller has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:21:31 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 16:22:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:47:49 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:03:01 <Frankr> Ammler do you know if this page is still correct, regards the mercurial.ini file changes https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Configuring_TortoiseHg_%28Windows%29 17:05:25 <Frankr> Basically are the line ending changes still necessary 17:07:59 <Ammler> they are recommend 17:08:19 <Ammler> but if all coders are windows guys, you can also agree to use windows linefeeds 17:08:44 <planetmaker> unless one of them has setup the dev environment properly ;-) 17:08:46 <Ammler> the server (nightlies) is linux 17:09:24 <Frankr> ok 17:09:33 <Ammler> hmm, there is already hg 1.4, maybe there is some native support 17:09:33 <Frankr> mine doesn't contain these 17:09:48 <planetmaker> I didn't see changes there in the changelog 17:09:57 <Ammler> ok ^ 17:10:09 <Frankr> ; System-wide Mercurial config file. 17:10:10 <Frankr> ; 17:10:12 <Frankr> ; See http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/hgrc.5.html or the file 17:10:13 <Webster> Title: hgrc (at www.selenic.com) 17:10:13 <Frankr> ; 'hgrc.5.html' in the 'docs' subdirectory for help about the syntax 17:10:15 <Frankr> ; and semantics of mercurial.ini files. 17:10:16 <Frankr> ; 17:10:18 <Frankr> ; !!! Do Not Edit This File !!! 17:10:20 <Frankr> ; 17:10:21 <Frankr> ; This file will be replaced by the installer on every upgrade. 17:10:23 <Frankr> ; Editing this file can cause strange side effects on Vista. 17:10:25 <Frankr> ; 17:10:27 <Frankr> ; http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/135 17:10:29 <Frankr> ; 17:10:31 <planetmaker> ... 17:10:31 <Frankr> ; To change settings you see in this file, override (or enable) them in 17:10:32 <Webster> Title: tortoisehg / stable / issues / #135 - Upgrade to 0.7.2 : *** failed to import extension hgext.hgconfig: No module named hgconfig — bitbucket.org (at bitbucket.org) 17:10:33 <Frankr> ; your user Mercurial.ini file, where USERNAME is your Windows user name: 17:10:34 <Frankr> ; 17:10:36 <Frankr> ; XP or older - C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Mercurial.ini 17:10:36 <Ammler> hmmm 17:10:37 <Frankr> ; Vista or later - C:\Users\USERNAME\Mercurial.ini 17:10:39 <Frankr> [ui] 17:10:40 <Frankr> ; editor used to enter commit logs, etc. Most any text editor 17:10:42 <Frankr> ; will suffice. 17:10:44 <Frankr> editor = notepad 17:10:46 <Frankr> ; In order to push/pull over ssh you must specify a ssh tool 17:10:46 <Ammler> don't paste more than 3 lines 17:10:47 <Frankr> ssh = "C:\Program Files\TortoiseHg\TortoisePlink.exe" -ssh -2 17:10:49 <Frankr> ;ssh = C:\cygwin\bin\ssh 17:10:50 <Frankr> [merge-tools] 17:10:52 <Frankr> kdiff3.priority=-1 17:10:53 <Frankr> kdiff3.args=-L1 base --L2 local --L3 other $base $local $other -o $output 17:10:54 <planetmaker> aaaaah! 17:10:55 <Frankr> kdiff3.regkey=Software\KDiff3 17:10:56 <Frankr> kdiff3.regappend=\kdiff3.exe 17:10:58 <Frankr> kdiff3.fixeol=True 17:10:59 <Frankr> kdiff3.gui=True 17:11:00 <planetmaker> @kick Frankr 17:11:01 <Frankr> beyondcompare3.priority=-2 17:11:03 <Frankr> beyondcompare3.args=$local $other $base $output /ro /lefttitle=local /centertitle=base /righttitle=other /automerge /reviewconflicts /solo 17:11:04 <Frankr> beyondcompare3.regkey=Software\Scooter Software\Beyond Compare 3 17:11:06 <Frankr> beyondcompare3.regname=ExePath 17:11:06 <planetmaker> @servicesop 17:11:07 <Frankr> beyondcompare3.gui=True 17:11:09 <Frankr> diffmerge.priority=-7 17:11:10 <Frankr> diffmerge.args=--nosplash --merge --title1=base --title2=local --title3=other $base $local $other 17:11:12 <Frankr> diffmerge.checkchanged=True 17:11:14 <Frankr> diffmerge.gui=True 17:11:15 <KenjiE20> @serices op 17:11:16 <Frankr> p4merge.priority=-8 17:11:18 <Frankr> p4merge.args=$base $local $other $output 17:11:18 <Frankr> p4merge.regkey=Software\Perforce\Environment 17:11:20 <KenjiE20> @services op 17:11:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 17:11:20 <Frankr> p4merge.regname=P4INSTROOT 17:11:22 <Frankr> p4merge.regappend=\p4merge.exe 17:11:23 <Frankr> p4merge.gui=True 17:11:24 <KenjiE20> @ban Frankr 17:11:25 <Frankr> tortoisemerge.priority=-9 17:11:27 <Frankr> tortoisemerge.args=/base:$output /mine:$local /theirs:$other /merged:$output 17:11:28 <Ammler> how 17:11:28 <Frankr> tortoisemerge.regkey=Software\TortoiseSVN 17:11:30 <Frankr> tortoisemerge.gui=True 17:11:31 <planetmaker> @kick Frankr 17:11:31 *** Frankr was kicked by Webster (planetmaker) 17:11:32 <Ammler> just -q him 17:11:41 <planetmaker> he'll re-join ;-) 17:11:48 <planetmaker> And I don't know how to mute ;-) 17:12:08 <Ammler> @mode planetmaker -q 17:12:08 *** Webster sets mode: +pntm 17:12:33 *** Hyronymus has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:12:52 *** Webster sets mode: +pntm 17:13:27 *** Webster sets mode: +pntm 17:13:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 17:14:02 *** Webster sets mode: +pntm 17:14:07 *** Ammler sets mode: -m 17:14:09 <planetmaker> hmpf 17:14:10 <planetmaker> ah 17:14:29 <planetmaker> oh well. He doesn't return :S 17:14:34 <Ammler> planetmaker: seems like I don't know it either :-) 17:14:49 <KenjiE20> pm; he's probably still in paste hell 17:15:05 <KenjiE20> ERROR 2010-01-20T09:13:27 supybot Unhandled error message from server: IrcMsg(prefix="osmotic.oftc.net", command="472", args=('Webster', 'a', 'is unknown mode char to me')) 17:15:16 <Ammler> @deop 17:15:16 *** Webster sets mode: -o Ammler 17:15:44 <KenjiE20> @deop Webster 17:15:45 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:15:49 <KenjiE20> oh yea 17:15:49 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:15:50 <Ammler> KenjiE20: maybe we can make an alias for @mute ? 17:15:53 <KenjiE20> @mode -o Webster 17:15:53 *** Webster sets mode: -o Webster 17:16:07 <KenjiE20> mute is already taken as bot lobotomy 17:16:23 <KenjiE20> not that it worked last time but still 17:16:23 <Frankr> right where do i find the latest ssh btw for was 17:16:38 <Ammler> btw? 17:16:53 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:16:54 <Frankr> sorry again 17:16:57 <Frankr> by the way 17:17:13 <Ammler> what's an ssh btw? 17:17:39 <Frankr> the ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/worldairlineset for cloning 17:17:51 <Frankr> faddy said it didn't work 17:17:52 <planetmaker> well. just that? 17:17:54 <Ammler> seems ok 17:18:07 <Ammler> the IP has changed 17:18:07 <planetmaker> did you try yourself? 17:18:22 <planetmaker> ^ indeed. 17:18:32 <Ammler> you might get a warning, which you need to aprove 17:18:32 <planetmaker> So... the computer might complain about wrong host key 17:18:47 <planetmaker> Ammler, I have my settings such that I get an abort, not a warning ;-) 17:18:51 <Frankr> no i haven't, ok i told him that 17:19:26 <Ammler> planetmaker: on linux, you need to edit known_hosts with default settings 17:19:42 <planetmaker> yes, I know :-) 17:20:01 <Ammler> Frankr: http://openttdcoop.googlepages.com <-- Fingerprint 17:20:31 <planetmaker> hm... I hate time estimates wrong by a factor of 4 17:20:40 <Frankr> remote: Illegal repository '/home/ottdc/hg- 17:20:43 <Frankr> he gets that 17:20:48 <planetmaker> At 18:00h my machine told me calculation would be finished in 5 minutes... 17:21:20 <planetmaker> still 2 minutes left. 17:22:34 <planetmaker> ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org:22/hg-repos/worldairlineset 17:22:38 <planetmaker> works for me 17:22:52 <planetmaker> and you can leave out the :22 17:22:55 <planetmaker> (I cannot) 17:23:35 <Ammler> if I knew, changing key is such an issue for windows users, I would have copied it. 17:23:43 <Frankr> lol, it is miraculusly working now 17:24:34 <Ammler> well, we had a miraculusly host down today ;-) 17:24:45 <planetmaker> miracle day it then 17:25:06 <Frankr> :) 17:28:06 <Frankr> thanks guys and sorry again 17:30:55 <Ammler> just don't do it again ;-) 17:33:13 <Frankr> just one question 17:33:39 <Frankr> is this warning to do with the difference in mine and ashs mercurial file like i suspect 17:34:09 <Ammler> which warning? 17:34:23 <Frankr> don't know if i can post it 17:34:31 <Frankr> i'll upload to pastebin 17:34:33 <Ammler> pastebin.ch 17:34:39 * planetmaker is off for the night 17:34:40 <Ammler> www.pastebin.ca 17:34:47 <Ammler> schlaf gut 17:34:53 <planetmaker> :-P 17:34:56 <Ammler> :-D 17:35:04 <Ammler> don't drink too much 17:35:07 <Frankr> http://pastebin.ca/1759160 17:35:09 <Frankr> lol 17:35:17 <Frankr> cya planetmaker 17:35:17 <planetmaker> Du auch ;-) Aber erst ein paar Helden durch ausgedachte Landschaften schieben ;-) 17:36:22 <Ammler> sprites/was.nfo.new.nfo <-- what a ugly file name is that$? 17:36:47 <Frankr> that is made by yorick and his makefile system 17:37:12 <Frankr> it isn't just on that file 17:37:17 <Ammler> please remove that from the repo 17:37:46 <Ammler> silly beardie again 17:37:49 <Frankr> i don't think it changes, i think it maybe from a very old version 17:38:01 <Frankr> so it can be removed 17:38:02 <Ammler> it isn't needed in the repo 17:39:01 <Ammler> remove it 17:39:04 <Ammler> run make 17:39:09 <Ammler> then hg st 17:39:18 <Ammler> and should have no files 17:39:33 <Frankr> ok, will do when i have sorted faddy out 17:55:38 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:04:02 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 585: Enabled 2CC on B777-200 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/585> 18:05:59 <Frankr> yay 18:06:02 <Frankr> it worked 18:11:27 <Ammler> Frankr: the file is still in the repo 18:11:38 <Frankr> sorry 18:11:48 <Ammler> he? 18:12:04 <Ammler> I don't care, just because you said, "it worked" 18:16:03 <Frankr> yh about faddy 18:16:14 <Frankr> he didn't change every file in the whole repo 18:16:24 <Frankr> hg remove, removes doesn't it 18:17:56 <Frankr> pushed 18:17:59 <Frankr> should be gone now 18:18:03 <Ammler> yes, if you like to keep it, you can use "hg forget" 18:18:39 <Ammler> Frankr: now run make and check, if it will be generated 18:18:40 <Frankr> no it really isn't necessary 18:18:48 <Frankr> it isn't generated 18:19:08 <Ammler> then what the hell did beardie? 18:19:18 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 586: removed was.nfo.new.nfo <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/586> 18:19:20 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:19:45 <Ammler> if you run "hg status" 18:19:54 <Ammler> do you get files with "?" 18:20:23 <Frankr> i have however got a small issue with my pcx files having moved 18:21:03 <Ammler> use "hg rename" to move files 18:21:29 <Frankr> they had just randomly disappeared 18:21:43 <Ammler> hg revert then 18:21:49 <Frankr> i must have moved them accidentally 18:22:11 <Ammler> paste your hg st 18:22:14 <Frankr> i've cut them straight back and there is no problem 18:22:41 <Ammler> hg st should be empty 18:23:52 <Frankr> i have ? 18:24:11 <Ammler> like? 18:24:20 <Frankr> on grfcodec, msys and renum which i added in myself 18:24:32 <Frankr> i'll add a hg ignore to them 18:24:40 <Ammler> yes, but local 18:24:57 <Frankr> yh only local 18:26:30 <Ammler> well, if you don't commit with "-A", it isn't important 18:26:54 <Ammler> or if you don't use hg addremove 18:27:29 <Frankr> i use hg addremove 18:27:37 <Frankr> commit with -m 18:33:33 <Ammler> yes, then your hg st should always be empty 18:33:54 <Ammler> except the files you add of course 18:34:06 * Ammler doesn't use hg addremove 18:34:32 <Frankr> ok 18:34:57 <Ammler> you know, there is also a "hg add" :-) 18:37:19 <Frankr> yh 18:39:00 <Frankr> you guys are really helpful to me who is a complete idiot 18:39:23 <Frankr> i am learning though, :) 18:47:16 <Ammler> you aren't 18:48:03 <Frankr> not learning or not a complete idiot, :) 19:06:03 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 587: FaddyPainters changes <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/587> 19:08:11 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:21:40 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:23:56 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:56:27 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:57:21 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:37:03 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:49:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:55:35 *** PeterT has quit IRC 21:58:58 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:07:17 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:10:55 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 588: Added Continental 737-900ER and Added Manufacturer livery for... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/588> 22:24:23 <andythenorth> hi hi 22:52:25 *** Hyronymus has quit IRC 22:53:02 *** Mark has quit IRC 23:18:15 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC