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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 26th January 2010:
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00:38:10  <dragonhorseboy> hey
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00:39:24  <dragonhorseboy> hey chris_booth
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03:35:16  <Chris_Booth> hello all
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11:56:09  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Swiss Town Names - Bug #720 (New): doesn't work in TTDPatch <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/720>
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12:14:04  <Ammler> planetmaker: if I like to start a newgrf project, shall I use the makefile framework from newgrf example or extract it from some other project?
12:17:34  <planetmaker> It doesn't really matter, I think. I'd propose currently 2cctrainset, though
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12:17:49  <planetmaker> it has a few small updates
12:19:30  <andythenorth> hmm....I worked 7am Monday until 7am Tuesday...and I haven't slept yet.
12:19:37  <andythenorth> ideal conditions for writing nfo?
12:19:49  <Ammler> yes, go on....
12:20:07  <andythenorth> also I have a house full of builders with drills, but *none* of them are installing fibre-broadband, which is one reason I'm still awake  :x
12:20:28  <Ammler> but first do "hg branch no_sleep"
12:20:36  <andythenorth> i.e. there is supposed to be an installer here, I have to wait for him, and he hasn't turned up :|
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12:21:23  <planetmaker> meh... sounds like fun :-P
12:21:57  <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=46595 <-- shall I ignore or show another list?
12:21:58  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Complete Sets (at www.tt-forums.net)
12:29:11  <planetmaker> I made already the error today to reply to him. Not worth
12:32:16  <Rubidium> talking about mb?
12:32:40  <Rubidium> I guess he'd like to get the answer: it's hinted on this forums already
12:34:11  <Ammler> Rubidium: I suggest planetmaker as a GraphicsForum Moderator
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12:46:27  <planetmaker> yes, talking about him...
12:47:33  <planetmaker> your proposed answer would have been better, though.
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19:06:09  <DJNekkid> omg omg omg!
19:06:27  <planetmaker> also mine :-P
19:06:38  <DJNekkid> im almost getting better at this linux thing already!
19:08:12  <DJNekkid> im currently logged on from my server, via a VLC desktop1
19:08:15  <DJNekkid> (!)
19:08:26  <DJNekkid> via my new laptop running windows7
19:09:35  <Ammler> VNC maybe?
19:09:48  <DJNekkid> probably :)
19:09:48  <Ammler> but I wouldn't use that
19:09:58  <Ammler> I would use nx
19:10:06  <DJNekkid> oki?
19:13:02  <DJNekkid> does it support "tab"? :)
19:15:19  <Ammler> tab?
19:15:59  <Ammler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology
19:16:00  <Webster> Title: NX technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:16:20  <Ammler> http://nomachine.com/
19:16:22  <Webster> Title: NoMachine NX - Desktop Virtualization and Remote Access Management Software (at nomachine.com)
19:16:26  <DJNekkid> im installing as we speak :)
19:16:28  <Ammler> one of the non-oss I use...
19:16:47  <DJNekkid> i cant use the tab-key in VNC
19:17:12  <Ammler> well, that might be a config issue
19:17:19  <DJNekkid> it might :)
19:17:29  <DJNekkid> but if you recomend nx, i'll use that :)
19:17:32  <DJNekkid> hehe
19:18:00  <Ammler> all I say with warranty, of course ;-)
19:18:21  <DJNekkid> hehe :)
19:18:57  <Ammler> usually, I have no X on the server
19:19:16  <DJNekkid> lucky me
19:19:40  <planetmaker> <Ammler> all I say with warranty, of course ;-) <-- cool. Can I quote you on that? ;-)
19:19:59  <planetmaker> and... what does happen, if I have to call-in on the warranty? ;-)
19:25:22  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3181: New strings to translate (#4647): <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3181> || Redmine - Revision 3180: New language - Basque/ Euskara (#4650). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3180>
19:26:14  <Ammler> planetmaker: http://pastebin.ca/1766927
19:26:48  <planetmaker> uhm, yes?
19:27:15  <Ammler> there is nosound.cat installed
19:27:26  <Ammler> but it does still complain about nosound
19:27:57  <planetmaker> uhm, no. A sound set has the sound file and a description file
19:28:12  <planetmaker> like opengfx has 6grfs and 1 description file
19:28:21  <planetmaker> opengfx.obg
19:28:36  <planetmaker> and there'd need be a nosound.obs
19:30:26  <Ammler> ah, make failed to do it
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19:51:32  <DJNekkid> it seems like since i use a java-client it wont accept "tab"
19:51:50  <DJNekkid> and tightvnc wont give me picture...
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20:03:59  <Ammler> http://maps.openttdcoop.org/output.txt <-- do you see, why the game doesn't load?
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20:08:37  <DJNekkid> yey!
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20:10:47  <Ammler> DJNekkid: so you gave up nx?
20:11:26  <DJNekkid> hehe
20:11:28  <DJNekkid> as of now...
20:11:40  <DJNekkid> i need to add RSA keys and stuff...
20:11:44  <DJNekkid> and im abit lazy right now :)
20:12:05  <Ammler> he, you need?
20:12:13  <DJNekkid> the guide told me so :)
20:12:14  <Ammler> well, you can :-)
20:12:23  <Ammler> might be better
20:12:35  <Ammler> long ago, I used it last time
20:12:46  <planetmaker> Ammler, there are at least 3 grfs not found, only compatible.
20:12:56  <Ammler> how long does it take to make a giant screen of 1024 mpa?
20:13:01  <planetmaker> And a few with errors.
20:13:11  <planetmaker> Dunno wether any of it matters, though
20:13:13  <Ammler> errors?
20:13:16  <planetmaker> Ammler, a few minutes?
20:13:26  <planetmaker> [2010-01-26 21:03:35] dbg: [grf] [ottdc_grfpack/8_vehicles/road_vehicles/4lv/4lvw.grf:6578] VehicleMapSpriteGroup: Spriteset 0x0072 out of range (maximum 0xF1) or empty, skipping.
20:13:44  <DJNekkid> btw, im probablynot gonna sleep tonight...
20:13:46  <planetmaker> [2010-01-26 21:03:35] dbg: [grf] [ottdc_grfpack/7_stations/newstats/newstatsw.grf:266] CreateGroupFromGroupID(0x05:0x00): Sprite set 5 invalid, max 5
20:13:50  <Ammler> and where do you see the error there?
20:13:56  <DJNekkid> wife is watching Saw VI
20:14:05  <Ammler> hmm
20:20:28  <DJNekkid> btw Ammler ...
20:20:46  <DJNekkid> how do i run a program from a terminal as "in background" ?
20:21:11  <DJNekkid> so that if i close the terminal, the app wont close as well
20:21:14  <Ammler> manny tools support that already
20:21:53  <DJNekkid> there arent any "normal" ways? ... <application> --background
20:21:55  <DJNekkid> or something :)
20:22:33  <Ammler> yes, else maypbe nohub
20:22:46  <Ammler> p
20:22:59  <Ammler> or screen
20:24:19  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: is there a FIRS flow chart?
20:26:24  <Ammler> yes, many
20:26:30  <Ammler> and why ask me?
20:27:48  <planetmaker> Ammer <-- NewGRF guru ;-)
20:33:22  <DJNekkid> what is "pirut" ?
20:34:10  <Ammler> ?
20:34:33  <DJNekkid> nvm
20:34:34  <DJNekkid> i found it
20:34:40  <DJNekkid> i were just stupid :P
20:36:12  <Ammler> http://openttdcoop.org:8000/MZ4.png#17642:7584:-1 <-- a bit slow?
20:45:58  <planetmaker> depends. With GBit network it's fine :-P
20:51:50  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: just as planetmaker said you r are the guru
20:52:07  <Chris_Booth> do you have and FIRS links for the flow charts?
20:52:46  <planetmaker> the FIRS thread has
20:52:52  <planetmaker> and andy's webpage
20:53:01  <planetmaker> though not sure how up2date they are
20:53:40  <Ammler> planetmaker: depends on the firs version you use
20:53:52  <Ammler> I guess, for bananas firs, they are fine
20:54:12  <planetmaker> yeah, probably
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21:13:15  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #208 (Reopened): Reorder ogfx_extra to keep sprite numbers equal to openttdw.gr... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/208#change-1921>
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21:44:11  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #208: Reorder ogfx_extra to keep sprite numbers equal to openttdw.grf to suppor... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/208#change-1924> || OpenGFX - Feature #208: Reorder ogfx_extra to keep sprite numbers equal to openttdw.grf to suppor... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/208#change-1923> || OpenGFX - Feature #208: Reorder ogfx_extra to keep sprite numbers equal to openttdw.grf to suppor... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/208#change-1922>
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21:59:29  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #208: Reorder ogfx_extra to keep sprite numbers equal to openttdw.grf to suppor... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/208#change-1925>
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