Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 1st September 2010:
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00:56:15  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon (athanasios) @
04:26:28  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Gumdrops for Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (planetmaker) @
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06:48:35  <KorneySan> Hello to all!
06:48:53  <KorneySan> Ammler, thank you for compiling grf.
06:49:31  <KorneySan> I've tested it. Works fine, but looks like I've mistaken with priorities.
06:59:40  <KorneySan> planetmaker, are you here?
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07:36:09  <KorneySan> Hello again. Now I'm from IM client. ;)
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08:16:06  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon (2006TTD) @
08:21:39  <planetmaker> moin
08:21:47  <Rubidium> moi
08:35:46  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Gumdrops for Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (2006TTD) @
08:47:18  <planetmaker> hm... seems that the ticket about the vehicle revenue sprites failed so far to catch frosch's attention :-)
08:47:45  <planetmaker> s/:-)/:-(/
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09:37:09  <KorneySan> Planetmaker, are you here now?
09:37:55  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Gumdrops for Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (2006TTD) @
09:40:52  <planetmaker> KorneySan, if want to ask a question, it's a good idea to ask it. And not ask for the presence of one person or another :-)
09:41:16  <planetmaker> but yes, I'm somewhat around
09:41:21  <KorneySan> I got it. SO can you repeat that link to mercurial installers?
09:42:34  <planetmaker>
09:42:39  <KorneySan> Thank you
09:42:45  <planetmaker> you're welcome
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10:07:27  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #1385 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (FaddyPainter) @
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12:07:17  <Ammler> hmm, korneysan should make a ticket
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12:19:53  <Korney_San> Ammler, I have installed TortoiseHg, grabbed project (from and made some changes. How I can "pull" them? (when I try the answer is "authentication failed")
12:20:51  <Ammler> Korney_San: are you able to run the script locally?
12:21:03  <Korney_San> Er... what script?
12:21:09  <Ammler>
12:21:56  <Korney_San> No. I didn't install anythong to compile.
12:22:11  <Ammler> anyway, you should be able to set "push" url
12:22:32  <Ammler> which is
12:23:10  <Korney_San> Ok, I'll try.
12:23:35  <planetmaker> Ammler, I think that is missing in our description :-)
12:24:48  <Ammler> yeah, the windows guid is still for ssh
12:25:24  <Ammler> maybe I will once try to setup it on my vm
12:29:13  <Korney_San> <urlopen error [Errno 10054] >
12:30:04  <Ammler> how does your url look? (replace pw with *)
12:30:21  <Korney_San> https://KorneySan:***
12:31:03  <Ammler> https://Ammler:***
12:31:16  <Ammler> looks similar :-)
12:32:42  <Ammler> can you paste a diff?
12:32:50  <Korney_San> I think the problem is that I have no rights to work with hg repository...
12:32:57  <Ammler> you have
12:33:01  <Ammler> you are manager
12:33:32  <Ammler> and it uses http so fw shouldn't be a issue eihter
12:35:23  <Korney_San> Ok, I'm trying...
12:37:08  <Ammler> installing tortoisehg on my vm
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12:44:39  <Korney_San> OK, now it looks like my proxy is too busy...
12:44:57  <Ammler> what editor do you use?
12:45:09  <Ammler> don't you have issues with linebreak?
12:46:18  <Korney_San> Er... I did as described here:
12:46:18  <Korney_San> I've edited text files, then do Commit.
12:46:20  <Webster> Title: 3. A Quick Start Guide to TortoiseHg — TortoiseHg v1.1.3 documentation (at
12:47:06  <Korney_San> And now I try to Push it... :)
12:47:59  <Ammler> I just wonder if you changed something, could you view a diff
12:48:03  <Ammler> maybe paste here
12:48:18  <Ammler>
12:54:16  <Ammler> tested windows tortoise, works fine
12:54:48  <Korney_San> Any step-by-step hint?
12:55:00  <Korney_San> ...of tortoise?
12:56:47  <Ammler> clone/pull - update - make the changes - commit - push
12:57:00  <Ammler> push is synchronize
12:57:09  <Ammler> as pul
12:57:12  <Ammler> pull*
12:57:31  <Ammler> maybe you forgot the commit
12:57:55  <Ammler> anyway, there should be no error, if there is nothing to push, tortoise does tell that and fine
13:03:07  <Korney_San> F**k,
13:03:07  <Korney_San> pushing to https://KorneySan:***
13:03:07  <Korney_San> [command interrupted]
13:03:23  <Ammler> could you please paste a diff
13:04:03  <Ammler> and maybe make a screen of the window you try to push
13:04:51  <Korney_San> Ok, I'll paste diff and screen.
13:06:07  <Korney_San>
13:07:26  <Korney_San>
13:09:04  <Ammler> diff is fine
13:09:12  <Ammler> but that means, you didn't commit the changes
13:10:15  <Korney_San> Er... I DID Commit, this is from Rep Explorer.
13:10:18  <Ammler> also the "Hint" in english translations is just for users which don't use a UTF-8 font
13:16:21  <Ammler> until you have fixed the issue, it is perfectly fine to upload patches to the tracker and assign to me
13:21:00  <Korney_San> Ok, 'till I can't fix it, I'll do so.
13:47:44  <Korney_San> Bye!
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14:12:14  <Brot6> Backup test: abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
14:30:59  <DJNekkid> hi all :)
14:38:17  <Brot6> Autopilot - Revision 87:3835595c5d99: Fix (r83): some tcl versions need [expr ...] to work (Ammler) @
14:38:18  <Brot6> Autopilot - Revision 88:6b8394cb5b88: Change: recount players, if ap+ controls pause_level, only (Ammler) @
16:21:23  <Brot6> firs: update from r1307 to r1309 done -
16:22:30  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r241 to r244 done -
16:24:17  <Brot6> nforenum: update from r480 to r482 done -
16:25:21  <Brot6> nutracks: update from r109 to r112 done -
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16:25:35  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r592), 32bpp-extra (r38), airportsplus (r53), basecosts (r20), belarusiantowns (r0), comic-houses (r71), fish (r387), frenchtowns (r3), heqs (r372), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r172), nml (r700), ogfxplus (r41), opengfx (r519), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), snowlinemod (r42), swedishrails (r147), swisstowns (r13), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r18),
16:25:35  <Brot6> worldairlinersset (r663)
16:34:39  <Rubidium> planetmaker/Ammler: you lot fancy hosting a patch pack? If so, reply to ChillCore's thread :)
16:35:10  <Ammler> you mean with your CF building it?
16:36:20  <Rubidium> yes, and you providing a place to dump the binaries and possible the hg repository although he could also use bitbucket if they still have free-for-opensource
16:36:50  <Ammler> easiest is a mq
16:37:11  <Ammler> then we apply those patches for the CF
16:37:44  <Ammler> I have somewhat prepared the server for that already, just not public, yet.
16:38:06  <Ammler> with automatic apply and building after every nightly.
16:38:23  <Rubidium> I fear he might not be able to cope with going to mqs just yet :)
16:39:54  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 2cctrainset (47 errors) (Diffsize: 2), 32bpp-extra (1 errors) (Diffsize: 13), airportsplus (Diffsize: 1), basecosts (Diffsize: 11), comic-houses (3 errors) (Diffsize: 13), firs, fish (5 errors) (Diffsize: 1), heqs (Diffsize: 1), metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1), opengfx, snowlinemod, transrapidtrackset (Diffsize: 12), ttrs
16:39:54  <Brot6> (125 errors), worldairlinersset
16:40:40  <Ammler> 14 min. to build every nfo grf :-)
16:41:08  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 1:294a20b6d185: Change: rename patches to lower case fo... (Ammler) @
16:41:08  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 2:8842599d334c: Added tag 70d559fb7361 for changeset 29... (Ammler) @
16:41:08  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 3:37010546e09c: Update for r20690 (Ammler) @
16:41:12  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 4:2791b6b886c3: Added tag 5eedf4bee0a2 for changeset 37... (Ammler) @
16:41:53  <Ammler> tag=hash of main repo
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17:00:35  <Brot6> AP+ MQ - Revision 0:715008ba7d86: Feature: make Screenshots (needs blitter in openttd) (Ammler) @
18:15:08  <DJNekkid> sorry that nutracks takes a while...
18:16:01  <DJNekkid> there are "just" 16*<quite-a-few> sprites thats 64x255px wide :D
18:27:17  <Ammler> you are using -c?
18:27:50  <Ammler> and there is no newgrf, which takes too long :-)
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18:37:08  <DJNekkid> i have no idea, ask planetmaker  :)
18:44:36  <Brot6> Nutracks - Patch #1177 (Closed): Action 14 support (DJNekkid) @
18:47:43  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 113:97fb1e936f8d: Change: Removed an unused file (DJNekkid) @
18:55:22  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 114:0f9d746eebc1: Change: Failsafes added to a14 parameters (DJNekkid) @
18:56:51  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1328 (Rejected): Wrong power for Shinkansen 0 and 700 (DJNekkid) @
18:57:22  <DJNekkid> bah
18:57:55  <DJNekkid> thats gonna be a big project...
18:58:49  <DJNekkid> moveing ALL action4 in 2cc-set out of a file and into an action4.pnfo, as well as move all strings and stuff into another file
18:58:54  <Brot6> NFORenum - Revision 483:e3f03c07695f: Change: make feature bits a tiny bit more readable (Rubidium) @
18:58:54  <Rubidium> <- for Lakie's error, though I'm wondering whether that introduces any bugs or whether there's something obviously wrong with that?
19:17:06  <frosch123> why isn't that error triggered on dozen of induistry grfs?
19:18:38  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1310:2f89fe22b662: Feature: Allow ECS Houses after inves... (foobar) @
19:18:38  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1285 (Closed): Investigate if ECS Houses could be allowed (foobar) @
19:22:42  <Rubidium> not using \d for the ground sprite?
19:22:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1092: Remove templates for deprecated industries. (foobar) @
19:25:29  <FooBar> Rubidium: FIRS uses \d1420 for the ground sprite...
19:27:02  <FooBar> hmmm...
19:27:20  <frosch123> yes, first forrest uses it
19:27:21  <FooBar> Rubidium: FIRS also seems to have waring 209 disabled for some reason
19:28:27  <FooBar> s/waring/warning
19:28:51  <FooBar> I wonder when that happened...
19:29:12  <FooBar> let's see what happens when I remove that
19:29:24  <frosch123> just tested
19:29:28  <frosch123> warning appears :)
19:29:43  <FooBar> hmmm, how expected :P
19:30:43  <FooBar> not just one time... the amount of warnings doesn't fit in my terminal
19:30:45  <Rubidium> ah the... it shows me a warning, lets disable it instead of report it mentality?
19:30:57  <frosch123> with your diff it is gone :)
19:32:10  <frosch123> date:        Mon Dec 28 15:10:00 2009 +0000
19:32:12  <frosch123> summary:     Change: suppress nforenum errors 197 and 209 (not helpful)
19:32:21  <frosch123> at least not recently
19:32:25  <FooBar> by whom?
19:32:32  <frosch123> andy of course :)
19:32:36  <FooBar> heh
19:33:23  <FooBar> 197 appears to be unsupressed currently, unless it's defined locally somewhere
19:33:57  <frosch123> seems to have been removed somehwen
19:39:22  <frosch123> it was not introduced in svn r1278 though
19:40:06  <Rubidium> it's in r2309 though
19:41:48  <frosch123> it has been there since the beginning
19:42:25  <frosch123> anyway, diff looks correct
19:45:09  <Brot6> NFORenum - Revision 484:dc91fc008e52: Fix: bogus warning when using \d<num> in an action 2 for fe... (Rubidium) @
19:46:19  <frosch123> FooBar: maybe enable 209 again :)
19:47:48  <Rubidium> frosch123: <- you like that idea?
19:48:12  <Rubidium> there are some "reservations" about the name though
19:49:00  <frosch123> what's that, grfcodec an nforenum in one repo?
19:49:40  <Rubidium> yep
19:49:43  <frosch123> sharing all the common files?
19:50:04  <frosch123> but yes, grfdevtools sounds too generic
19:50:59  <Rubidium> frosch123: only escapes.h is common IIRC, but yes. And their makefiles and such were highly similar
19:51:09  <frosch123> as if it would contain everything from
19:52:00  <frosch123> only escapes.h, oh, is it then beneficial to separate the sourcefiles?
19:52:31  <frosch123> nah, you mean only escaped.h is 100% identical, while the rest is messed together in other files, right?
19:53:08  <frosch123> i.e. some grfmerge, grfcodec, nforenum, common folders or so
19:53:46  <Rubidium> it's all dumped in one folder at the moment
19:53:54  <Rubidium> it's just the initial merge
19:54:04  <Rubidium> more cleanups can (obviously) come after that
19:55:18  <frosch123> true
19:57:28  <frosch123> well, considering the past merging them in one repo sounds useful
20:04:02  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1311:5fd70a93ddd8: Codechange: undisable nforenum warnin... (foobar) @
20:08:01  <frosch123> hmm, nforenum r481 (removal of getopt) broke ottd's detection of it
20:11:37  <planetmaker> good evening
20:11:55  <frosch123> ah, ottd uses -?
20:12:53  * Rubidium slaps me
20:13:16  <Rubidium> it still detects it though, right?
20:13:28  <Rubidium> hmm, nope
20:13:33  <frosch123> no, it is the detection that fails :)
20:13:50  <frosch123> replacing -? with --help works
20:14:01  <frosch123> is that also present for the old versions?
20:14:26  <Rubidium> -h works fine for old versions as well
20:14:37  <Rubidium> even though it doesn't know it...
20:15:26  <Rubidium> but yes, --help should be available in old versions
20:15:56  <Rubidium> and actually you can pass any crap to old nforenums, they never return an error on invalid params
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20:34:22  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1388 (New): check station roofs' transparency (planetmaker) @
20:35:29  <andythenorth> evening
20:35:35  <planetmaker> hi andythenorth
20:35:37  <andythenorth> today I have mostly been diddling with Sand Pits
20:36:21  <planetmaker> as long as you don't fall for them but not into it ;-)
20:36:34  <planetmaker> s/don't/only/
20:37:23  <andythenorth> :)
20:41:25  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1388: check station roofs' transparency (frosch) @
20:43:27  * andythenorth wonders if Sand Pit is now good enough
20:48:47  <planetmaker> frosch123: did you also see the issue with the new sprites for vehicle income stats / news flash / start /stop icons?
20:49:05  <planetmaker> it actually looks like a usuable distinction what is proposed there
20:49:26  <frosch123> someone added me as observer :p
20:50:06  <planetmaker> :-P
20:50:12  * planetmaker whistles innocently
20:50:12  <frosch123> anyway, i updated the diff this evening, trashed my ugly coins, and just replaced them with the old blot
20:50:35  <planetmaker> :-)
20:50:42  <frosch123> i kept my news and exclusivity icons though :)
20:50:48  <frosch123> they seem to be good enough
20:51:28  <frosch123> now i have to test some automatic alignment of the icons wrt. sprite dimensions and font size
20:51:50  <planetmaker> hm, your sprites are not attached to this topic. Could you do so?
20:52:05  <planetmaker> I'm not sure... I might have them *somewhere*...
20:52:53  <frosch123> they are linked from the forum
20:53:01  <planetmaker> ah
20:54:11  <frosch123> <- that are the old ones
20:56:09  <planetmaker> thanks. I added it. Keeps it at a common place :-)
20:56:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon (planetmaker) @
20:58:04  <planetmaker> andythenorth: good change on the sandpit. Tracks became more irregular :-)
20:58:33  <planetmaker> now those trucks have to actually move :-P
21:00:15  <planetmaker> andythenorth: what I'd improve is the very straight transition from sand to green near the huts of the sand pit
21:00:46  <andythenorth> planetmaker: yup
21:00:57  <andythenorth> that's where the fence used to be, but that was removed (by request)
21:01:05  <andythenorth> I think restoring the fence would be the quick fix :P
21:01:22  <planetmaker> I'm not sure it needs removal, though it does not make too much sense there
21:01:36  <planetmaker> it didn't bother me
21:02:56  <planetmaker> but early night for me today
21:03:02  <planetmaker> have a good night folks :-)
21:15:46  <frosch123> night
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22:59:47  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon (athanasios) @
23:45:57  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Gumdrops for Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (athanasios) @
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