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00:00:27 <Brot6> nml-wine - Revision 0:73c4c2e694db: Added tag Arabella for changeset 000000000000 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-wine/repository/revisions/73c4c2e694db 00:03:28 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Revision 10:5f7cbed954a1: Added tag Arabella for changeset 2df1b55437a5 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-dot-wine/repository/revisions/5f7cbed954a1 00:05:07 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 297:4b79a2b65d61: Fix (r150): generated custom_tags.txt didn't ... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/4b79a2b65d61 00:06:26 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine: update from to Arabella done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml-dot-wine/releases/Arabella 00:13:02 <Brot6> nml-wine: compile of r1512 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml-wine/nightlies/ERROR/r1512 00:42:45 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Revision 11:fe037eef14b8: keep .wine as tar (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-dot-wine/repository/revisions/fe037eef14b8 00:42:45 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Revision 12:f6d6c3285200: Added tag Bart for changeset fe037eef14b8 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-dot-wine/repository/revisions/f6d6c3285200 00:48:18 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Bug #2848 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2848 00:58:39 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Revision 13:f0518dc14b29: Fix: forgot the filepointer (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-dot-wine/repository/revisions/f0518dc14b29 00:58:39 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Revision 14:f6f3917a30fb: Added tag Bart for changeset f0518dc14b29 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml-dot-wine/repository/revisions/f6f3917a30fb 01:02:12 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine: update from Arabella to Bart done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml-dot-wine/releases/Bart 01:06:52 <Brot6> nml-wine: update from r1303 to r1512 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml-wine/nightlies/r1512 01:10:48 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1512:d996e4f21d87: Change: nml-dot-wine is a real package now (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d996e4f21d87 01:12:53 <Brot6> nml: update from r1509 to r1512 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1512 05:37:45 *** bodis has left #openttdcoop.devzone 05:51:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:04:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:08:53 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:30:57 <planetmaker> moin 08:42:16 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2155:208e953eb62e: Add: Template for terrain switch and ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/208e953eb62e 09:13:02 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^ :) 09:20:30 <planetmaker> it's not making really making use of the adv. tile layout yet, though 09:20:43 <planetmaker> I'm just trying to get the code in a form so that I understand the structure :-P 09:20:45 <andythenorth> no 09:20:58 <andythenorth> might be worth splitting to industry files as you make changes? 09:21:11 <andythenorth> I find single files easier to edit personally 09:21:15 <planetmaker> but it becomes clear(er) what parts are easily templated 09:21:24 <andythenorth> I hate that god object :D :P 09:21:32 <planetmaker> I pondered that. I guess it's not really wrong 09:21:38 <andythenorth> it's not technically a god object, but is about same 09:21:50 <planetmaker> though it makes it somewhat easier to search and replace in one file than many 09:21:56 <planetmaker> at least the manual stuff 09:22:00 <andythenorth> good point 09:22:16 <andythenorth> although I like to know that find-and-replace isn't touching stuff it shouldn't :) 09:22:33 <planetmaker> hm? 09:22:45 <planetmaker> err-no-parse ;-) 09:22:59 <andythenorth> anyway, I welcome all such commits :) 09:23:07 <andythenorth> anything that saves me having to do it :P 09:23:13 <planetmaker> :-P 09:23:21 <planetmaker> Well... :-) 09:23:51 <planetmaker> currently it's still easy code. Mostly 09:23:59 <planetmaker> But not well-named 09:24:15 <planetmaker> and much of the last commit's replace was 80% manual 09:24:38 <planetmaker> I'm not 100% sure about a good naming scheme for switches... 09:24:42 <planetmaker> I usually follow: 09:25:05 <planetmaker> switch_industryname_terraintype_layoutno_otherstuff... 09:25:16 <planetmaker> for the real action2 09:25:22 <planetmaker> for tile types 09:26:05 <planetmaker> and I'm pondering to kick out the unused action2s... irrespective whether we might regret that. Thoughts? 09:26:08 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:26:35 <planetmaker> simple reason: it will reduce the unused code and make the rest possibly a bit clearer and easier to understand 09:26:56 <planetmaker> hi FooBar 09:27:33 <FooBar> hi planetmaker 09:27:51 <FooBar> I'm officially away though :P 09:31:41 <Terkhen> hi FooBar 09:31:45 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/values.txt 09:31:50 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/other.txt 09:32:00 <FooBar> hi Terkhen 09:32:07 <Terkhen> ^ those are the tokens I get 09:32:12 <Terkhen> IIRC notepad++ also used two lists of stuff 09:32:22 <Terkhen> so it is just a matter of updating the old script at the devzone with this new data 09:32:30 <andythenorth> planetmaker: kicking out the unused action 2s may simply result in complaints about unused action 1, although you could test it 09:32:37 <andythenorth> fewer errors = good 09:32:44 <planetmaker> andythenorth, yes. and they'd be removed then, too 09:32:46 <andythenorth> and I don't recall a reason for them 09:32:52 <planetmaker> i.e. cut out all unused stuff 09:32:59 <Terkhen> if anyone else wants a highlighter for his favourite text editor, you can use those txts too :P 09:33:06 <andythenorth> nml seems to handle action 1 quite differently? 09:33:15 <andythenorth> nfo cares deeply about the position in the list 09:33:22 <andythenorth> so removing unused things is a PITA 09:33:31 <FooBar> Terkhen: thanks, I will look into this later today. It shouldn't be too difficult to update the xml file I guess 09:33:33 <planetmaker> nml re-arranges it itself to usually big action1s 09:33:49 <andythenorth> might as well clean them up then 09:33:52 <planetmaker> Terkhen, that's keywords needing highlight? 09:34:01 <Terkhen> a list of all tokens in nml, yes 09:34:08 <Terkhen> FooBar: you are welcome :) 09:34:29 <Terkhen> the tokens are arbitrarily split on two groups, "mostly keywords" and "mostly constants" 09:34:37 <Terkhen> but I did not check it very thoroughly 09:34:51 <planetmaker> andythenorth, it should not be a PITA with NML 09:35:02 <planetmaker> and... after all we have a VCS. So we could retrieve it easily 09:35:07 <planetmaker> care to do that? :-P 09:35:32 <andythenorth> working today 09:35:42 <andythenorth> just hanging out here to see nice commits ;) 09:35:50 <planetmaker> :-D 09:36:53 <Terkhen> if anyone uses geany, I have one for it already 09:37:55 <andythenorth> I use text wrangler 09:38:08 <andythenorth> if I send you a mac, will you write a highlighting module for it? :P 09:38:31 <Terkhen> as long as the mac is a gift, yes 09:38:39 <Terkhen> :P 09:38:52 * andythenorth is actually selling macs at the moment 09:38:59 <andythenorth> and one of our spanish employees might buy it :P 09:39:12 <Terkhen> nah, I'm only interested if it is a gift :P 09:39:25 <andythenorth> ho 09:39:28 <andythenorth> oh well 09:41:57 <FooBar> It appears notepad++ uses 4 sets of words, but I'll figure out which is which 09:42:47 <Terkhen> FooBar: I can tweak the script to get 4 sets of words 09:42:54 <Terkhen> but not now :P 09:43:00 * Terkhen adds that to the ToDo 09:43:10 <FooBar> heh :) Next time then when there is an update 10:31:01 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - nml_v2.xml (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1662/nml_v2.xml 10:31:08 <FooBar> There we are 10:31:25 <Terkhen> :) 10:32:04 <FooBar> I'm not sure every word is in the correct set, but it looked ok in my code so far 10:33:19 <FooBar> Oh, and I hope you don't mind I changed the colour for comments. I didn't like the baby-green. Now it's the same orange as I'm used to from PHP :) 10:37:39 * Terkhen does not mind at all :P 10:37:52 <Terkhen> IIRC I just used the defaults from C++ or something like that 10:43:13 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Bug #2847 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2847 10:43:13 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Bug #2848 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2848 10:43:13 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Bug #2847 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2847#change-7033 10:43:13 <Brot6> nml-dot-wine - Bug #2848 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2848#change-7034 10:46:13 <FooBar> Well, it's a matter of what you're used to 10:47:09 <FooBar> NML is new to me, so basically all colours are fine. Comments are not :) 10:51:35 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1422 10:51:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:52:09 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 10:57:50 *** Guest1422 has quit IRC 12:48:21 <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Revision 11:e3aebc984f95: Feature: GETA 70-75 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtramset/repository/revisions/e3aebc984f95 12:48:21 <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Revision 12:61b4671e2537: Fix: HTM 821 tractive effort coefficient (trailer is n... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtramset/repository/revisions/61b4671e2537 12:48:21 <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Revision 13:37d44e3a493e: Feature: GVB 491-550 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtramset/repository/revisions/37d44e3a493e 12:51:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2156:87a34177ad51: Cleanup: Remove some unused switch bl... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/87a34177ad51 12:56:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2157:b385b9e31306: Cleanup: Remove unused switches from ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b385b9e31306 12:56:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2158:1c763642c076: Cleanup: Remove unused switch from br... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1c763642c076 13:02:38 *** FooBar has quit IRC 13:11:52 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:48:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2159:8acaf88f1979: Add: Templates for industry colour se... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8acaf88f1979 13:48:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2160:03fa40a3a2d1: Codechange: Name a number of action2 ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/03fa40a3a2d1 13:50:21 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:43 <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Revision 14:a15c8566ce5a: Feature: RET 231-244 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtramset/repository/revisions/a15c8566ce5a 13:55:06 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:03:51 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2161:ac4b08c51538: Codechange: Use the colour scheme tem... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ac4b08c51538 14:04:39 * planetmaker wonders whether the single use of colour scheme 2 isn't rather a bug than a feature 14:07:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #2849 (New): different choice of colours for plastics... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2849 14:27:09 <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Revision 15:798d30cff767: Feature: HTM 1301-1340 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtramset/repository/revisions/798d30cff767 14:33:27 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #2849 (Closed): different choice of colours for plast... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2849 14:33:27 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #2849 (Closed): different choice of colours for plast... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2849#change-7035 14:52:12 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:06:36 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:07:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2162:d89293a8a9d2: Codechange: Template the (re)setting ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d89293a8a9d2 15:55:46 *** Lakie has quit IRC 16:12:45 *** FooBar has quit IRC 16:57:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:57:08 <andythenorth> hola 16:58:50 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 17:20:17 <Brot6> firs: update from r2153 to r2162 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2162 17:21:32 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r107), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), cets (r5), chips (r143), comic-houses (r71), firs.nml (r2081), fish (r655), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r832), grfpack 17:21:32 <Brot6> (r279), heqs (r605), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r298), nml (r1512), nutracks (r202), ogfx-industries (r121), ogfx-landscape (r70), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r245), ogfx-trees (r51), opengfx (r681), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), source-test (r2), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r203), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer 17:21:34 <Brot6> (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:21:52 <andythenorth> all FIRS build errors are gone :) 17:21:54 <andythenorth> nice 17:23:04 <Ammler> you are good :-P 17:27:41 <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37 17:28:49 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r121 still failed (#2792) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r121 17:29:18 <andythenorth> not me 17:29:46 <andythenorth> planetmaker gets credit for fixing those errors 17:37:59 <Ammler> yeah, planetmaker is a little bit good too :-) 17:38:01 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 15915), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), cets, frenchtowns, german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile, ogfx-landscape (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 5460), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4590), ogfx-trains, source-test (6 warnings), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails, swisstowns 17:38:37 <Ammler> he should fix ogfx-industries :-P 17:50:19 <Terkhen> huh? why is that broken? 17:50:57 <Ammler> nmlc: "src/industry_definition.pnml", line 499: layouts must be an array of layout names 17:53:55 <Terkhen> sounds like changes in nml 17:53:59 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1447 17:53:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:54:48 *** Guest1447 has quit IRC 17:56:12 <Ammler> yep, it is 18:39:39 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:53:44 <Ammler> dihedral: I missed the multihost feature of monit, but there is mmonit.com :-) 18:58:06 <Ammler> oh no 19:06:13 <planetmaker> Ammler: I don't quite understand #2792 though 19:06:13 <Brot6> planetmaker: Ammler: #2792 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2792 "OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2792: DevZone compile failed - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:11:23 <Brot6> openttd.grf water-features - Revision 28:8d1a873f8d6c: Change: completed 1/16th of needed river s... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/water-features/repository/revisions/8d1a873f8d6c 19:32:48 <Ammler> andythenorth: you should enable nightly build :-) 19:33:12 <Ammler> it might be not that bad with ogfx 19:33:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: you mean, you don't know, if it is issue of grf or build compile? 19:34:20 <planetmaker> I don't see what's wrong as the same seems to work for FIRS 19:41:33 <Ammler> wow, now suse is lost, made me maintainer of python factory repo, me has no clue about python :-o 19:43:10 <planetmaker> err... ? 19:43:20 <planetmaker> did you apply then? 19:45:43 <planetmaker> however: congratz :-) 19:51:08 <Ammler> nah 19:51:16 <Ammler> I just submit some packages 19:51:28 <Ammler> like gunicorn 20:04:11 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 20:09:17 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 47 20:09:17 <Webster> planetmaker: 2F 20:15:41 *** FooBar has quit IRC 20:21:46 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1464 20:21:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:22:00 *** Guest1464 has quit IRC 20:29:01 <Ammler> http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=pkg_edit&name=nml || http://packages.python.org/nml/ 20:29:02 <Webster> Title: NML documentation (at packages.python.org) 20:33:03 <planetmaker> interesting :-) 20:33:04 <andythenorth> nml on pypi? 20:33:07 <andythenorth> :) 20:33:09 <Ammler> pip install nml 20:33:21 <Ammler> no idea if that already works 20:33:32 <andythenorth> pip might be easier than maintaining a buildout 20:33:38 <andythenorth> the buildout seems to fail anyway 20:34:03 <andythenorth> it installs pil and ply correctly, but fails to build nml correctly 20:34:04 <andythenorth> iirc 20:34:33 <Ammler> hmm, you mean wron shebang? 20:35:48 *** bodis has quit IRC 20:35:55 <andythenorth> no it fixes the shebang ok 20:36:02 <andythenorth> something else - I forget what 20:36:40 <Ammler> I guess, pypi also supports automatic upload via ssh and such 20:37:09 <Ammler> someone of you have pypi account? 20:37:15 <Ammler> I would add you 20:37:18 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:37:19 <andythenorth> pypi seems pretty good when I use it. I don't have account though 20:37:47 <Ammler> I just was wondering, if pypi is that easy as rubygems :-) 20:38:17 <andythenorth> hmm 20:38:26 <andythenorth> I can't remember what's wrong with the buildout 20:38:29 <andythenorth> seems to work for me 20:38:36 <Ammler> yes, "pip install nml" works 20:38:50 <Ammler> does that use buildout too? 20:39:23 <Ammler> I guess, it does 20:40:14 <andythenorth> pip is an alternative to buildout 20:40:31 <andythenorth> there are iirc at least three alternative python build tools 20:40:44 <Ammler> I guess, pip is to use for pypi 20:40:50 <Ammler> or easy_install 20:41:16 <Ammler> buildout does extend setup.py 20:41:45 <andythenorth> pretty much 20:42:16 <andythenorth> it shortcuts user having to install setup tools 20:42:24 <andythenorth> and it can build non-python dependencies 20:42:29 <andythenorth> and it can version pin 20:42:34 <andythenorth> but it's also a bit complex :P 20:43:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:45:01 <Ammler> andythenorth: same as bundler for gems 20:51:24 <Ammler> python setup.py sdist upload 20:54:38 <Ammler> that easy :-) 20:55:44 <planetmaker> good night 20:57:06 <Ammler> nightly 20:59:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2163:9afcff12350a: Codechange: Template the nearby tile ... 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