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05:12:19 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:28:46 *** bodis has quit IRC 06:31:38 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:33:53 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 64:c511bda15715: Fix: Also clean files generated by generat... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/c511bda15715 07:36:06 <V453000> planetmaker: would it be possible for me to have my train set hosted on the devzone please? :) I would like to let others contribute and I cant really imagine that happening in some better way 07:53:53 <planetmaker> of course it's possible, V453000 07:54:01 <V453000> :) what can I do for it? 07:54:28 <planetmaker> mostly it needs a name ;-) 07:55:00 <V453000> lets call it Unrealistic Train Set, at least that is how I call it so far 07:56:52 <planetmaker> Sounds like a funky name ;-) 07:57:08 <planetmaker> anyway... repository, I guess, too? 07:57:53 <V453000> that is probably the main thing so anyone could access the sprites, no? 07:58:27 <V453000> so I guess the answer is: yes :p 07:59:23 <planetmaker> yes... though it only really starts to make sense when you also have code which brings the sprites into the game. Before that point I personally prefer to keep the sprites of individual trains in a separate issue each 07:59:38 <planetmaker> But everyone can handle that however one likes in their projects 08:00:25 <V453000> good point 08:00:44 <V453000> hmm lets keep the individual issues for now then 08:01:03 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ur-trains <-- there you go 08:01:33 <V453000> yeyy, a new home, thanks :P 08:01:38 <planetmaker> np 08:02:25 <V453000> oh, logging in might be a good idea to start with xD 08:02:32 <V453000> <- dumb 08:07:02 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ur-trains registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/ur-trains 08:07:03 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ur-trains created 08:07:50 <V453000> oh :) 08:20:38 <planetmaker> well, I activated the repo generation. Just in case ;-) 08:20:53 <V453000> thanks :p 08:22:33 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2870 (New): General ideas (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2870 08:47:36 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2871 (New): Engine Table (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2871 09:14:51 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2872 (New): Wagon List for standard cargoes (+beer!) (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2872 09:32:35 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2873 (New): Example: Futuristic train (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2873 09:33:28 *** LordAro has quit IRC 09:46:36 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2874 (New): Example: Monorail Train (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2874 09:58:48 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2875 (New): Example: Diesel Train (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2875 10:01:12 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:02:22 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2876 (New): Maglev Tanker #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2876 11:08:02 <planetmaker> V453000: you can have most have 4 loading stages (including empty and totally full) 11:13:11 <V453000> ooh 11:13:23 <V453000> I thought 5 :) thanks, makes it easier 11:13:42 <V453000> oh I even have 6 :D 11:19:00 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2876: Maglev Tanker #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2876#change-7089 11:21:54 <V453000> :) 11:22:55 <V453000> planetmaker: how much of a potential issue is it if a wagon in the "top" view is 2 tiles wider? 11:22:58 <V453000> *2 pixels 11:23:04 <V453000> damn I still keep changing pixels for tiles :D 11:24:30 <planetmaker> i guess not much. But the whole bounding box should be filled with blue background 11:24:35 <planetmaker> it's a matter of aligning things 11:24:57 <V453000> I have .. oh I forgot one :) 11:25:04 <planetmaker> no idea where and how that glitches, if vehicles are wider than 8px... 11:25:14 <planetmaker> all tracks and roads etc are tailored to that, I gues 11:25:17 <planetmaker> *guess 11:25:53 <V453000> yes ... well lets see later :) 11:44:01 <planetmaker> he has it for at least 3 years ;-) 11:46:49 <V453000> well me too, just joining his ranks officially now :P 12:09:54 <Hirundo> planetmaker: why are 4 stages the max? 12:13:15 <planetmaker> implicitly assumed knowledge and you ask me for actual proof? Drat 12:15:00 <Hirundo> I did not know of such a limit... 12:15:19 <planetmaker> maybe my statement is wrong 12:16:53 <Hirundo> Although arguably having more stages than loading steps (capacity / loading_speed) isn't useful 12:17:42 <planetmaker> well. cargo could arrive slower 12:17:59 <planetmaker> but it would definitely be tmwftlg 12:23:50 <planetmaker> Hirundo: in the newgrf specs I don't find an explicit limit on the num_loadtypes 12:28:34 <planetmaker> Hirundo: V453000: seems my "knowledge" that there only may be 4 loading stages is wrong. I find neither in the specs nor the code a hint on the limit 12:55:53 <FooBar> why does this NML not work: http://pastebin.com/Fgd1ZSYY 12:56:28 <FooBar> i cannot get my head around it. It should edit the properties of some dutch train set vehicles, but instead it adds the original vehicles of the ids I set 13:00:18 <planetmaker> did you try to disable the default vehicleIDs first? 13:01:04 <planetmaker> (it's just a random idea) 13:01:34 <FooBar> no, I haven't. Will give it a try 13:02:50 <FooBar> is there any nml shortcut to do that? 13:04:10 <planetmaker> yes. disable_... 13:04:42 <planetmaker> disable_item(feature[, first_id[, last_id]]); 13:04:53 <planetmaker> one liner actually 13:04:57 <FooBar> sweet :) 13:05:05 <planetmaker> disable_item(FEAT_TRAINS) disables all of them 13:05:28 <FooBar> oh, I should've looked better, it's right there in the documentation 13:06:16 <FooBar> but thanks anyways ;) 13:09:38 <FooBar> hmmm, doesn't work :( 13:09:58 <FooBar> with disable_item, it doesn't do anything 13:16:56 <Hirundo> is the dutchset loaded also, or just this grf? 13:17:10 <FooBar> yes, dutchset is loaded 13:17:19 <FooBar> but I think I've found something... 13:17:47 <FooBar> engine_override("DC"); results in 3 * 14 00 08 01 01 00 11 06 99 FB FB 03 05 4C 4D 13:18:04 <FooBar> but my grfi-id is grfid: "\FB\FB"; 13:18:12 <FooBar> looks to be encoded backwards 13:18:29 <FooBar> I'll try and see what it does if I define the source ID manually 13:19:21 <Hirundo> is it missing an endian swap? 13:21:52 <FooBar> hmmm, both are backwards... hang on some more 13:22:38 <planetmaker> seemingly. But that'd be missing in the NML function then as things like grf_future_status accept it in the same order as OpenTTD displays them 13:22:39 <FooBar> VICTORY 13:22:51 <FooBar> yes, both grf-ids are encoded backwards 13:23:05 <FooBar> so it it seems it has an endian swap where it shouldn't have 13:23:12 <planetmaker> :-) good to know. Still a bug. 13:23:18 <planetmaker> yes 13:23:33 <planetmaker> thanks for testing it actually 13:23:48 <FooBar> you're welcome 13:23:55 <FooBar> I'll see if I can come up with a fix 13:24:05 <FooBar> probably not... 13:24:15 <FooBar> but it's a chance to look into nml source 13:24:43 <Hirundo> I can't check now, but if it's a bug I'll look at it later 13:26:24 <FooBar> seems a but to me, if I put the grfids backwards it works 13:26:45 <FooBar> but = bug 13:30:26 <FooBar> what does reduce_constant() do? 13:32:07 <FooBar> nvm, it's probably parse_string_to_dword() that does the wrong magic 13:36:24 <planetmaker> it converts expressions to its simplest form 13:39:51 <FooBar> well, I cannot find what goes wrong. I'll just make a bugreport 13:40:29 <FooBar> too little source comments for me to understand any of it without starting from the very beginning :P 13:44:14 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2877 (New): engine_override encodes GRFIDs backwards (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2877 13:48:30 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 13:49:15 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:05 *** avdg has quit IRC 13:50:18 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 13:50:21 *** V453000 has quit IRC 13:50:23 *** tneo has quit IRC 13:50:54 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:51:24 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:51:24 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:51:33 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 13:51:54 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:52:24 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:55:55 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 13:55:55 *** V453000 has quit IRC 13:55:57 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 13:57:54 *** SmatZ- has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:57:54 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:58:13 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 13:58:24 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:58:54 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:02:55 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 14:02:58 *** V453000 has quit IRC 14:03:44 *** SmatZ- has quit IRC 14:03:54 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:03:55 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 14:05:24 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:54 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:54 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:09:59 *** V453000 has quit IRC 14:10:54 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:11:26 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 14:11:32 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 14:11:54 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:12:24 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:18:05 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 14:18:24 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:32:02 <Ammler> hmmhmm 14:34:56 <planetmaker> what's happening there? 14:37:55 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 14:38:06 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 14:38:19 <Ammler> good ge 14:38:54 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:38:54 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:02:21 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:56:47 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:15:22 <FooBar> I case there are any Dutch Trainset users here, this is what you need: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=55872 16:15:23 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [OTTD] Dutch Trainset Cargo Extension (at www.tt-forums.net) 16:20:43 <planetmaker> hm... FooBar is here but not in #openttd? :-) 16:21:00 <FooBar> I'm hardly ever on that 16:21:20 <planetmaker> I just wanted to type "^^ FooBar" in that channel ;-) 16:21:29 <FooBar> heh :) 16:21:31 <planetmaker> i.e. check commit log :-P 16:21:52 <FooBar> of which, openttd? 16:22:26 <FooBar> ah, sweet! Good work, planetmaker! 16:24:15 <planetmaker> yeah, was a good and easy-to-implement idea 16:24:26 <FooBar> those are the best :P 16:24:30 <FooBar> anyways, dinner 16:33:03 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7090 16:34:34 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7090 16:35:26 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:54:16 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:51 <Brot6> nml: update from r1520 to r1521 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1521 17:19:42 <Brot6> firs: update from r2179 to r2181 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2181 17:21:49 <Brot6> cets: update from r56 to r64 done (374 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r64 17:22:57 <Brot6> dutchtramset: update from r80 to r84 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtramset/nightlies/r84 17:23:30 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: ogfx-trains (r245), narvs (r37), bros (r52), ogfx-industries (r121), sub-landscape (r72), opengfx (r681), ailib-tile (r16), transrapidtrackset (r15), 2cctrainset (r750), ailib-list (r32), opensfx (r97), ttdviewer (r34), worldairlinersset (r672), heqs (r605), openmsx (r97), basecosts (r25), nutracks (r202), nml (r1521), 32bpp-extra (r40), manindu (r7), newgrf_makefile (r305), 17:23:30 <Brot6> ailib-direction (r17), ailib-common (r21), snowlinemod (r49), ai-admiralai (r75), swisstowns (r22), metrotrackset (r56), spanishtowns (r10), frenchtowns (r6), grfpack (r279), ogfx-rv (r107), fish (r655), ogfx-landscape (r70), ttrs (r36), source-test (r2), ogfx-trees (r51), swedishrails (r203), grfcodec (r832), ai-aroai (r39), german-townnames (r34), smts (r19), chips (r143), belarusiantowns (r8), indonesiantowns (r41), ailib-string 17:23:32 <Brot6> (r29), airportsplus (r107), comic-houses (r71) 17:24:48 <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37 17:25:26 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r121 still failed (#2792) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r121 17:31:36 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7091 17:39:29 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains, sub-landscape, manindu (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile, swisstowns, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), frenchtowns, ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4590), ogfx-landscape (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 5460), source-test (6 warnings), swedishrails, german-townnames, belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), airportsplus (Diffsize: 17:39:29 <Brot6> 15915) 17:46:28 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2876: Maglev Tanker #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2876#change-7092 17:49:12 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2878 (New): parameters to strings (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2878 17:53:53 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #2879 (New): My priority list (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2879 17:56:28 <planetmaker> hahaha :-) 17:56:45 <planetmaker> Hirundo: that's sweet. Now I know where I can add tasks... :-) 17:56:57 <planetmaker> ... z) world peace 17:57:23 <Hirundo> y) total world domination 17:57:37 <V453000> x) beer 17:57:49 <XeryusTC> beer \o/ 17:58:02 <Hirundo> I guess I'll skip a-w 17:58:05 <planetmaker> there, they all come out of their caves then ;-) 17:58:24 <XeryusTC> havent had a beer since last thursday :( 17:58:29 <XeryusTC> come save me V :o 17:58:36 <planetmaker> ah, I knew it all was just red herring the people 17:58:55 <V453000> :D you are screwed XeryusTC 17:59:00 <V453000> nothing will save you 18:01:13 *** FooBar has quit IRC 18:02:41 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7095 18:02:51 <XeryusTC> :( 18:04:26 <V453000> but maybe if you had beer asap 18:04:37 <V453000> you might have a chance 18:07:08 <XeryusTC> \o/ 18:07:13 <XeryusTC> must run off to the shops then 18:07:52 <V453000> shops? 18:07:59 <V453000> bottle or canned beer does not work 18:08:06 <V453000> or will give you lesser chance of survival 18:08:22 <XeryusTC> well, off to the pub then 18:08:36 <V453000> :P 18:08:42 <V453000> that should do it 18:10:47 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7096 18:11:58 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #2868: 64 px max length vs. 48 px max length (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2868#change-7095 18:17:01 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:17:01 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 18:21:08 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2870: General ideas (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2870#change-7097 18:22:57 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2870: General ideas (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2870#change-7098 18:27:25 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2870: General ideas (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2870#change-7099 19:26:47 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1522:5665b88cb96d: Doc #1555: Document vehicle callbacks, add som... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/5665b88cb96d 20:04:36 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1523:62580c07997e: Change #1555: Update regression test to includ... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/62580c07997e 20:25:10 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2880 (New): Maglev Flatbed #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2880 20:25:33 <V453000> ^ :) 20:35:52 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2881 (New): Gautrain Electrostar have too little Hp and is slow like a snail (romazoon) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2881 20:40:32 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:42:26 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2881: Gautrain Electrostar have too little Hp and is slow like a snail (romazoon) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2881#change-7100 21:03:20 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:21:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:27:50 *** JVassie has quit IRC 21:30:03 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #2879 (New): My priority list (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2879 21:30:03 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1524:759229f98ce9: Doc: Document the graphics block, including ca... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/759229f98ce9 21:30:03 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1555 (Closed): Explicitly define callbacks (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1555#change-7101 21:30:09 *** bodis has quit IRC 22:30:30 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2880: Maglev Flatbed #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2880#change-7102 22:49:54 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2880: Maglev Flatbed #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2880#change-7104 22:51:57 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 65:52c4b0a18b36: add column for number of middle wagons (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/52c4b0a18b36 22:51:58 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 66:bf4c17244a68: add middle and end wagon for prussian A2 b... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/bf4c17244a68