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01:23:59 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 03:25:19 <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 41:e8100d637cec: Doc: Template with all British Rail-era l... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/e8100d637cec 03:38:12 <Brot6> britrains: update from r36 to r41 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/push/r41 06:47:15 <Xotic750> planetmaker: the stadard 4x size is 512x512 but because we can not anti-alias I use the technique of rendering 4x bigger than that (2048x2048) and then downscale to the 4x, 2x and 1x scale, to give a clearer image. 06:49:04 <Xotic750> originally I found 8x was the best without anti-aliasing, but it produces 4096x4096 images 06:49:45 <Xotic750> and so I cut it down to 4x to reduce the size without losing to much visually, anything less becomes noticeable 06:50:55 <Xotic750> however, even though the images are 2048x2048, most of the pixels are just alpha data and so they actually compress very well, I have set the png compression to 90% 06:52:33 <Xotic750> so even a 2048x2048 render only uses on average 100k, which is pretty good 06:59:29 <planetmaker> doesn't it make sense to cut the images to a reasonable size which is approx. the sprite size? 07:00:37 <planetmaker> after all, a single sprite should never exceed for vehicles like 10 LU, which is like 40*4 pixels 07:00:46 <planetmaker> in width 07:01:07 <planetmaker> s/vehicles/trains/ 07:11:08 <Xotic750> if we cut the raw image then if any change needs to be made to the template (for post processing) it would mean a full re-render of all the images. In the final sprites we cut off excess just not with the raw images, but it would be possible to take a little off and then design the template (post processing) to always thing of the raw with this new size. To be honest though, it will not save much in di 07:11:08 <Xotic750> sk space as the compression already does a good job of all the alpha pixels, we may shave off 10% of the disk space at best I would say 07:16:29 <Xotic750> just tested the difference, the biggest are view 2 (93.1k raw), with a zelous crop (cropped to the exact pixels x and y) we get 64.6k 07:17:33 <Xotic750> so a 30% saving if we crop without any surrounding alpha pixels 07:18:01 <Xotic750> but this is hard to template, as a zelous crop is not the same size every time 07:18:26 <Xotic750> depending on the height of the vehicles this may change due to shadow casting 07:24:43 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:28:13 <Xotic750> the best way would be to use anti-aliased images, but I have not been able to find any way to deal with masks when this is switched on, due to the way the a-a algorithm works 07:37:06 *** Zuu has quit IRC 08:50:31 <planetmaker> Xotic750: a 30% saving would mean already A LOT 08:50:47 <planetmaker> we're talking of about 50 megabytes then. For each change made to the graphics 08:51:13 <planetmaker> we're talking here of hundrets of images after all, no? 08:51:43 <planetmaker> well, 50MByte might be a bit too high. But still. With every revision the images change, that much overhead is added 09:15:16 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:16:30 <Xotic750> I will have a look to see if I can implement some kind of cropping at the rendering stage, adjust the post processing template and re-work the offsets, will take some time though 09:20:19 *** th_gergo1 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:20:21 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 09:28:23 *** th_gergo1 has quit IRC 09:28:50 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:48:46 <planetmaker> well, no rush. But it might also help to mak the issues with the commit sizes less severe :-) 09:48:55 <planetmaker> same with pulling from the repo 10:16:54 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 10:50:01 <Ammler> Rubidium: planetmaker , why does cargodist upload to subdir "releases"? 10:50:24 <Ammler> that looks like you "hardcoded" the path 11:32:26 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3703: station covers plastic fountain (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3703#change-10791 11:34:21 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #668: bubble generator building stage (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/668#change-10793 11:35:24 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1255#change-10794 11:36:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1255: Toyland Lighthouse and Radio Antenna (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1255#change-10794 11:37:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #668: bubble generator building stage (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/668#change-10793 12:56:04 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:44:08 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:45:47 <Rubidium> Ammler: I'd say that you should ask TB as I can't find a configuration setting in the compile farm's web frontend 14:46:03 <Rubidium> so I reckon it's somewhere in the backend or somewhere where I haven't looked yet 15:16:08 *** th_gergo1 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:22:34 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 15:24:13 *** th_gergo1 has quit IRC 15:29:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:24:13 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:37:16 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:15:38 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:29:45 <Brot6> firs: update from r2843 to r2844 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2844 17:39:09 <Brot6> britrains: update from r40 to r41 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/nightlies/r41 17:41:49 <Brot6> bandit: compile of r469 still failed (#3900) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r469 17:43:24 <Brot6> make-nml: compile of r0 still failed (#3730) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/make-nml/nightlies/ERROR/r0 17:44:07 <Brot6> metrotrackset: compile of r59 still failed (#3882) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/metrotrackset/nightlies/ERROR/r59 18:41:29 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3957: DE1 Blauwe Engel (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3957#change-10795 19:09:09 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 449:cf44595e95b6: Update: Modified materials, added lighting, added compo... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/cf44595e95b6 19:11:44 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #3958 (New): Add the depots from pikka as station tiles (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3958 19:47:15 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature Request #3959 (New): Forest tiles? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3959 20:00:28 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:28:19 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:59:33 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #3960 (New): language code instead of number in language file... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3960 21:11:34 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:20:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:19:22 <Brot6> Script Communication Protocol - Revision 1:2777be2caec2: - Fix issue 3955 : don't try to slice part ... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/scriptlib-scp/repository/revisions/2777be2caec2 23:11:29 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:18:01 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 675:ebfcb29e94a2: Fix: Correct sprite dimensions and some offs... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/ebfcb29e94a2 23:18:01 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #3852 (Closed): sprite offsets (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3852#change-10796 23:20:19 <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 42:f4fb75fc4c7f: Fix: CETS revision 675 (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/f4fb75fc4c7f 23:29:01 <Brot6> cets: update from r673 to r675 done (187 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r675 23:29:44 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 23:36:32 <Brot6> britrains: update from r41 to r42 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/push/r42