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01:35:04 *** Brot6_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:36:22 *** Brot6_ has quit IRC 01:37:21 *** Brot6_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:37:45 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 01:38:10 *** Brot6_ is now known as Brot6 01:38:40 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 01:39:29 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:43:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 710:529edc9c6aef: Fix: Removed default speed limit of 160 km/h on rail wa... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/529edc9c6aef 05:06:45 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 711:3116a06e6e7f: Fix: Inconsistancy with refit_cost property, moved to a... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/3116a06e6e7f 06:17:20 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:17:49 <Alberth> woep 06:47:34 * Alberth discovers the personal page at devzone 06:50:05 <planetmaker> moin 06:57:45 <Terkhen> what's that? :P 06:59:33 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #4064 (New): Applying for project: zBaseBuild (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4064 07:00:26 <Alberth> Terkhen: log in, then click 'mypage' at the top 07:00:30 <planetmaker> Alberth: that's why I made manager yesterday of this fake OpenTTD project ;-) 07:00:38 <planetmaker> You should be able to just create that project 07:00:50 <Alberth> I probably am, but no clue how 07:01:22 <planetmaker> click the projects overview page, then 'new project'. Or is that not feasible? 07:01:37 <Alberth> people just tend to give you access rights without a manual :p 07:01:49 * Alberth hugs planetmaker :) 07:02:01 <planetmaker> :-D 07:02:25 <Alberth> ah, ok, will try :) 07:02:55 <planetmaker> created. Ups 07:03:23 <planetmaker> hm, not created. zBaseBuild is invalid... 07:04:10 <planetmaker> Alberth: mind to check 'repository' module 07:04:28 <planetmaker> Ammler: ^ the repo module doesn't seem checked by default. Wasn't that once different? 07:05:14 <planetmaker> well. now again... 07:05:44 <Alberth> you're making the project? 07:06:14 <planetmaker> well. Do you? Otherwise I'll hit 'create' now 07:06:22 <Alberth> please go ahead 07:09:53 <planetmaker> there we go. 07:10:07 <Alberth> tiles are aligned on the position of the tip of the northern corner of a flat tile? 07:11:42 <Alberth> thanks 07:11:57 <Alberth> take 2 :) 07:11:58 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild 07:12:38 <planetmaker> give it a few minutes to create the repo 07:12:45 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 712:e5bb2e8f13b3: Fix: Set default_cargo_type for refittable vehicles (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/e5bb2e8f13b3 07:14:03 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/zbasebuild registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/zbasebuild 07:14:03 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/zbasebuild created 07:14:23 <Alberth> the issue I ran into yesterday was that I need to compute filenames of png files 07:15:11 <Alberth> ie base=49; offset=20 -> create "terrain/terrain_temperate/64_0069.png" 07:15:48 <Alberth> which is trivial in Python: ".../64_%04d.png" % (base+offset) 07:15:59 <Alberth> and probably also possible in m4 07:16:09 <Terkhen> Alberth: thanks, I'll try it later 07:16:14 <Alberth> but I don't know how to do that in CPP 07:16:51 <planetmaker> you can't exactly compute in cpp. afaik 07:17:39 <Alberth> yeah, I was thinking that too, so it looks like we need a new build setup 07:18:50 <planetmaker> :-D 07:19:02 <planetmaker> python would be easiest. It's used for hg anyway 07:19:57 <planetmaker> but m4 might be easiest from a use perspective, but I simply don't really know it 07:21:48 <Alberth> perhaps I should look at what xotic is doing 07:22:32 <planetmaker> be prepared for a loooo..... 07:22:37 <planetmaker> ...ooooong clone event :-P 07:23:02 <planetmaker> also clone ogfx-trains via ssh. not http 07:26:39 <Alberth> :) 07:27:26 <Alberth> he, I have write access there too :) 07:30:01 <Terkhen> ssh is magical :) 07:34:26 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083: Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11124 07:35:07 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083 (Closed): Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11125 07:35:46 <Alberth> that's fast :) 07:35:48 <planetmaker> Alberth: yeah... that's why we usually don't deal out ssh anymore ;-) 07:36:08 <planetmaker> (and that's why the http needs fixing... ) 07:36:21 * Alberth nods 07:37:04 <Alberth> oh, zeph has been busy, one new revision, 1455 files :p 07:37:16 <planetmaker> he re-did some maglev 07:37:23 <planetmaker> *monorail 07:38:37 <Terkhen> are standard wagons supposed to have running costs? 07:42:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065 (New): Change default running cost of wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065 07:44:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4066 (New): Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066 07:44:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065: Change default running cost of wagons (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11126 07:45:23 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4020: Language files not up to date with new text (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4020#change-11127 07:45:54 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4018: 4/8 length 8bpp template and 8bpp Tender required (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4018#change-11128 07:48:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11129 07:48:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #3970: Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several others too) (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3970#change-11130 07:48:43 <Ammler> [09:04] <planetmaker> Ammler: ^ the repo module doesn't seem checked by default. Wasn't that once different? <-- yes, that was intendend 07:49:14 <planetmaker> thought so (and I faintly remember). But why? 07:49:28 <planetmaker> I forgot the reasons and... mostly found it not helpful recently 07:49:59 <Ammler> because you rather enable as disable it 07:50:44 <planetmaker> but people who want a project usually want a repo 07:51:06 <Ammler> yes, you can enable repo everytime 07:51:17 <Ammler> but once enabled, no chance to remove it again 07:51:41 <planetmaker> nor to add it without manual intervention. Right? 07:51:55 <Ammler> no 07:52:06 <Ammler> again, enableing is possible everytime 07:52:19 <planetmaker> also automatic creation? 07:52:25 <Ammler> why not? 07:52:51 <planetmaker> it was my impression it only works on new projects. Not existing 07:53:20 <Ammler> it creates always, it never deletes 08:01:53 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11131 08:05:21 <planetmaker> Ammler, also for existing projects when I add a repo after a day or so? 08:32:15 <dihedral> oi 08:38:03 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11132 08:39:47 <Alberth> lol, ogfx-trains cloning is still running :) 08:49:04 <Terkhen> it takes about an hour IIRC 08:52:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066 (New): Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066 08:52:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11129 08:52:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11131 08:52:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11132 08:52:40 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11133 08:59:55 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083 (Reopened): Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11134 09:19:24 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 0:088af9ae8683: Add: Initial temperate terrain experiment, somewhat cleaned up... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/088af9ae8683 09:29:27 *** Xotic750 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:13:10 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4067 (New): Missing 4 flat temperate flat rough terrain tiles (3996-3999) (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4067 10:47:25 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065: Change default running cost of wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11135 10:54:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4068 (New): Early bulk wagons with lower speed limit (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4068 11:24:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4068: Early bulk wagons with lower speed limit (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4068#change-11136 11:25:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4069 (New): Tender graphics change in consist (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4069 11:27:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066: Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11137 11:32:11 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4069: Tender graphics change in consist (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4069#change-11138 12:22:08 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065: Change default running cost of wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11139 12:25:38 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083: Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11140 12:41:30 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065: Change default running cost of wagons (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11141 12:57:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065: Change default running cost of wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11142 13:00:12 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4065 (Closed): Change default running cost of wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4065#change-11143 13:04:55 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 1:253b0a2a4812: Codechange: Less magic pieces of text. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/253b0a2a4812 13:05:59 <planetmaker> Xotic750, not that you mis-understand me: I don't mind in general a change to wagon properties. But I like a look at the general pictures when the defaults are changed with an emphasis to address "issues" (whatever might be an issue ;-) ) 13:08:54 <Xotic750> There was no issue there. My gaming experience is still relatively low and like I said, I just thought a little too realistically and thought it may improve interest, you're explanation just showed me that my thinking was not correct w.r.t. game play :) 13:08:58 <planetmaker> e.g. a valid counter-argument might be "increased cargo capacity is enough and reduced cargo aging could well be compensated partly by increased running cost". But... depends, I guess :-) 13:10:13 <planetmaker> E.g. my argument is only valid, if one assumes that players refit often and try to make use of two-way routes. If not... it's kinda mute ;-) 13:11:22 <planetmaker> tbh, I'm still a bit unhappy about the lifestock wagon. It somehow doesn't fit the scheme 13:11:35 <planetmaker> It has no refits at all. 13:11:42 <Xotic750> Well, I can always come back to it if I think I have a good argument :) 13:11:45 * Alberth is often too focused on bringing everything to one industry 13:12:10 <Alberth> Xotic750: make a newgrf that changes it to your desires :p 13:12:31 <Alberth> perhaps we should make a "make personal vehicle config newgrf" program :D 13:12:48 <planetmaker> Alberth, the question is "what is my personal desire" really? :-) 13:13:10 <Xotic750> I would like to know your thoughts on the year old feature request about running costs for pax, mail, valuables and livestock though, http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083 13:13:37 <planetmaker> For our purpose here IMHO it should be to make all vehicles interesting and maybe a bit more balanced than default without changing the "feel" much 13:14:20 <planetmaker> Xotic750, I think they should have running costs as well. Like the other wagons 13:14:42 <planetmaker> the absence there surely is an oversight on my part 13:15:04 <planetmaker> or the wrong assumption that wagons have a running cost by default (which they don't seem to have) 13:15:20 <planetmaker> or which - for whatever reaseon - is reset to 0 or ... 13:15:22 <planetmaker> dunno :-) 13:15:42 <Xotic750> Ok, then it will be added :) 13:17:17 <Xotic750> I'm putting all the changes into the m4 branch first but I will also add the fixes etc into the default branch, so that they are both the same 13:17:43 <planetmaker> yes. But don't close the issue then 13:17:49 <planetmaker> :-) 13:17:58 <planetmaker> well. If it's in default, then close, of course 13:18:12 <Xotic750> sure 13:46:32 <Ammler> planetmaker: it creates ALWAYS, when is _not_ always? 13:47:47 <Ammler> building branches is no issue, it just needs a tag, btw. 13:48:01 <planetmaker> and nightlies from a branch? 13:48:28 <planetmaker> i.e. "build tip of repo - whatever branch it may be in"? 13:48:39 <planetmaker> or maybe "build tip of all branches" :-P 13:48:55 <Ammler> hmm, I think i does default only 13:49:05 <planetmaker> so I do believe, too 13:49:26 <Ammler> it* 13:51:17 <Ammler> but why would you want nightlies of a branch? 13:51:35 <Ammler> hmm, make branch with a a new repo 13:52:27 <Ammler> we really need fork 13:53:13 <planetmaker> Ammler, in this case IMHO the branch is the better solution - and it also saves us 2GB storage on the server 13:54:06 <Ammler> same as fork 13:55:20 <planetmaker> but a separate repo would use the same space as the original one again 13:55:26 <Ammler> no 13:55:28 <planetmaker> as the devzone wouldn't know that it's the same 13:55:41 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 11:422bfe59dbf0: Add: Rail fences. (zephyris) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/422bfe59dbf0 13:55:45 <Ammler> test it yourself, clone a repo and run du 13:55:59 <planetmaker> yes. locally 13:56:04 <Ammler> as said, we need fork 13:56:06 <Ammler> :-P 13:56:13 <planetmaker> which is something we don't have 13:56:13 <Ammler> rhodecode 13:56:30 <Ammler> maybe that would also solve the issue with big repos 13:56:47 <Ammler> well fork is somethin very important 13:56:50 <planetmaker> maybe 13:57:00 <planetmaker> the hg guys like rhodecode. Or some do 13:57:01 <Ammler> so we could fix a lot missing issues at once 13:59:06 <Ammler> hnmm, what is zBase? 13:59:16 <planetmaker> 32bpp opengfx or so 13:59:29 <planetmaker> zephyris new clean 32bpp sprites for a base set 14:00:06 <Ammler> new or the original sources of the existing ogfx? 14:00:15 <planetmaker> new stuff 14:00:22 <Ammler> ok :-o 14:00:46 <planetmaker> like what the 32bpp project always should have looked like :-) 14:02:11 <planetmaker> hm... rhodecode. Looks quite nice tbh 14:02:32 <Ammler> yes, and it has some addons to work with redmine 14:02:57 <planetmaker> care to... make a test VM with that stuff? :-D 14:02:58 <Ammler> at least the rhodecode dev is also in #redmine :-) 14:03:11 <planetmaker> I see natosha. He's a mercurial dev, too 14:03:20 <dihedral> jira jira jira 14:03:32 <planetmaker> or rather she, I think 14:03:42 <Ammler> marcinkuzminzki 14:04:19 <Ammler> dihedral: :-D 14:04:21 <dihedral> + confluence + bamboo + fisheye 14:04:36 <dihedral> you get that stuff for free for opensource projects :-) 14:04:41 <Ammler> one of those opensource? 14:04:57 <Ammler> at leas bamboo isn't 14:05:11 <planetmaker> you can get the source of bamboo 14:05:27 <Ammler> yes, but it isn't opensource, so... 14:06:15 <Ammler> and it something else anyway, stay onntopic :-P 14:07:00 <Ammler> first we need a working source fork system 14:07:11 <dihedral> jira is amazing 14:07:28 <Ammler> jira sounds javaish 14:07:28 <dihedral> + the integration with eachother with those systems is great too 14:07:44 <dihedral> Java goes IRAte :-P 14:08:02 <dihedral> well it is written in java and needs a tomcat server to run 14:08:07 <dihedral> but is great to handle 14:08:11 <dihedral> just runs like a charm 14:08:29 <Ammler> I believe you, but as said, we need opensource, (IMO) 14:08:52 <dihedral> nah 14:09:01 <dihedral> in some cases open source is overrated :-P 14:09:06 <dihedral> you need something awesome that works 14:09:27 <Ammler> we already spent too much money in this, (again IMO) 14:09:31 <dihedral> i use jira to organize my private stuff :-P 14:09:53 <dihedral> you can get all those projects for free, because they want to support open source projects 14:10:15 <Ammler> hmm 14:10:17 <dihedral> i think that's better than this 'community edition' stuff 14:10:25 <dihedral> because you get the real thing 14:10:45 <Ammler> well, your keyword is "can" :-) 14:10:47 <planetmaker> http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request 14:10:48 <Webster> Title: Open Source License Request | Atlassian (at www.atlassian.com) 14:12:19 <Ammler> so jira is mercurial host? 14:12:26 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 713:bec35d464ca8: Fix #4066: 160km/h restriction should only be on rail c... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/bec35d464ca8 14:12:26 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4066 (Closed): Remove default rail speed limit of 160 km/h (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4066#change-11144 14:13:19 <Ammler> fisheye 14:15:37 <planetmaker> yes, probably 14:16:30 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083: Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11145 14:17:32 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4069: Tender graphics change in consist (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4069#change-11146 14:17:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #4068: Early bulk wagons with lower speed limit (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4068#change-11147 14:19:01 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #3970: Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several others too) (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3970#change-11148 14:19:16 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 2:47d1e2bce409: Add: Sea coasts. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/47d1e2bce409 14:20:54 <planetmaker> Xotic750, you can reference issues, if you name them in the commit message 14:21:33 <planetmaker> Like "Change #3970: Default livery of manley morel becomes fruit" 14:21:34 <Brot6> planetmaker: #3970 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3970 "Bug #3970: Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several others too) - OpenGFX+ Trains - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 14:21:44 <planetmaker> then the devzone links issue and revision automatically 14:22:19 <Xotic750> I started using that a little, but will make sure I do it more 14:22:56 <planetmaker> The only "problem" is, that "Fix #3970: bla bla" will close the issue ;-) 14:22:57 <Brot6> planetmaker: #3970 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3970 "Bug #3970: Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several others too) - OpenGFX+ Trains - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 14:23:26 <dihedral> what? brot reads issue numbers?? 14:23:30 <Xotic750> that's why I was being careful :) 14:24:16 <Ammler> fixes,closes,fix,close,bug,fixed <-- this closes ticket 14:24:34 <Ammler> everything else references it only 14:24:43 <planetmaker> ^^ thanks. I was just looking for that list 14:24:59 <planetmaker> "bug" closes? 14:25:32 <Ammler> you ever used that? 14:25:46 <planetmaker> not that I remember 14:25:49 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 12:3da91bb15a07: Add: Street lights, road works and road works bulldozer placeholde... (zephyris) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/3da91bb15a07 14:25:54 <Ammler> :-) 14:26:19 <planetmaker> referencing: refs,references,Issue,add,updated,part 14:26:30 <Ammler> that is irrelevant 14:26:34 <Ammler> as we have also * 14:26:34 <planetmaker> hm, is it? 14:26:38 <planetmaker> ah, yes 14:27:53 <Ammler> dihedral: Brot6 is cool :-P 14:28:04 <dihedral> what kind of bot is it? 14:28:10 <Ammler> Brot6: version 14:28:11 <Brot6> Ammler: I'm a v. 0.9.15 rubybot, (c) Tom Gilbert and the rbot development team - http://ruby-rbot.org 14:28:12 <dihedral> Brot6, version 14:28:12 <Brot6> dihedral: I'm a v. 0.9.15 rubybot, (c) Tom Gilbert and the rbot development team - http://ruby-rbot.org 14:28:22 <dihedral> neat :-) 14:28:43 <Ammler> s/:-P/:-)/ 14:28:44 <Brot6> Ammler: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" 14:29:11 <planetmaker> :-D 14:29:19 <Ammler> ah well 14:29:36 <Ammler> I just installed it years ago and stil have no clue about it 14:29:51 <Ammler> actully nobody has and nobody has also no clue about ruby 14:31:26 <Ammler> the redmine connector was the reason I used it, the rest we could do with webster 14:34:35 <planetmaker> hm... rhodecode: "# Build in commit-api let’s you add, edit and commit files right from RhodeCode interface using simple editor or upload form for binaries." 14:34:46 <planetmaker> that sounds interesting for those DVCS unaware ones 14:39:27 <dihedral> s/neat/great/ 14:39:28 <Brot6> dihedral meant: "great :-)" 14:40:40 <dihedral> Brot6, google rhodecode 14:40:41 <Brot6> dihedral: Results for rhodecode: 1. RhodeCode: http://rhodecode.org/ | 2. Dashboard - RhodeCode: https://secure.rhodecode.org/ | 3. marcinkuzminski / RhodeCode / source Bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/marcinkuzminski/rhodecode 14:47:02 <dihedral> rhodecode has a wiki? 14:48:10 <dihedral> urks 14:48:45 <dihedral> what's wrong with redmine? 14:48:51 <dihedral> why are you looking at rhodecode? 14:52:22 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 714:e1c6f9eb5c35: Fix #2083: Running cost for all wagons, added running_c... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/e1c6f9eb5c35 14:52:23 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2083 (Closed): Running cost for all wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2083#change-11149 14:58:04 <planetmaker> dihedral, like fork and pull (requests) 14:58:33 <dihedral> how often will that happen? :-P 14:58:49 <planetmaker> maybe often enough :-) 14:58:59 <planetmaker> I could then really setup a bare-bone newgrf project. 14:59:07 <planetmaker> you just fork it and make it a real project. Done 14:59:33 <dihedral> .. make a project, pull, pull from another source, commit, push, done? 14:59:36 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 715:68ebf3b54eb0: Feature #3491: Added missing track_type property to red... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/68ebf3b54eb0 14:59:44 <planetmaker> or what alberth does now with zBaseBuild. One could then simply pull. 14:59:52 <planetmaker> Doing the clones locally saves loads of space 15:00:15 <planetmaker> instead of new project and pushing the stuff which is cloned first locally to your server 15:00:42 <planetmaker> make no difference for the existing projects. But with 32bpp it will start to make a HUGE difference 15:00:46 <dihedral> hmmm... but is it worth for a button that may only be used 3-4 times a year? 15:00:47 <dihedral> on one project 15:01:26 <planetmaker> dunno 15:10:43 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4070 (New): Purchase list shows graphics in their loading state (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4070 15:14:20 <planetmaker> http://projects.andriylesyuk.com/projects/scm-creator <-- do we use this, Ammler ? 15:14:21 <Webster> Title: Redmine SCM Creator - Overview - Projects (at projects.andriylesyuk.com) 15:43:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 716:8991f9790154: Fix #4069: Tender graphics change in consist, modified ... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/8991f9790154 15:43:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #4069 (Closed): Tender graphics change in consist (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4069#change-11150 15:46:06 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:46:16 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:55:26 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 76:f790d089eae0: Doc: Updated Credits (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtracks/repository/revisions/f790d089eae0 15:56:03 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 77:692bc5f2d319: Feature: Futuristic Track Graphics (NuTracks v1.1.2 Very... (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtracks/repository/revisions/692bc5f2d319 15:56:03 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 78:c876afd05a4f: Feature: HSL Track Graphcis (NuTracks v1.1.2 Highspeed T... (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtracks/repository/revisions/c876afd05a4f 15:59:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: no 15:59:42 <planetmaker> something custom? 16:01:12 <Ammler> no 16:01:25 <Ammler> redmine tool 16:01:37 <Ammler> reposman.rb via crontab 16:02:12 <Ammler> looks interesting 16:02:36 <Ammler> but it won't fix the lack of forki 16:05:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 717:9bd65d9a96a0: Fix #3970: Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit ... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/9bd65d9a96a0 16:05:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #3970 (Closed): Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several other... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3970#change-11151 16:08:32 <Ammler> dihedral: fork is the most important feature imo for opensource 16:08:43 <Ammler> why do you think is github that successful? 16:11:11 <Ammler> for sure not because of the upper complicated vcs 16:11:12 <planetmaker> quite true, yes 16:12:09 <Ammler> people use git because of github, not github because of git 16:43:03 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1916:456920bdcc44: Change: Rename LOADINGSTAGE_XXX to LOADING_STAGE_... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/456920bdcc44 16:52:40 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 17:16:37 <Brot6> nml: update from r1915 to r1916 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1916 17:24:34 <Brot6> metrotrackset: update from r94 to r95 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/metrotrackset/nightlies/r95 17:25:00 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4071 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4071 17:38:04 *** NataS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:38:04 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 18:25:06 <Brot6> make-nml: compile of r14 still failed (#4048) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/make-nml/nightlies/ERROR/r14 18:36:18 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** NataS has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** Xotic750 has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** orudge has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** LordAro has quit IRC 18:36:18 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:36:38 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:38 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:38 *** Xotic750 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:38 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:38 *** NataS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:38 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:37:09 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:37:09 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:42:45 <Brot6> dutchtracks: compile of r78 still failed (#4071) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtracks/nightlies/ERROR/r78 18:49:00 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-industries (Diffsize: 129404), firs (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 43339), opengfx (Diffsize: 26), foobarstramtracks (Diffsize: 28769), bandit (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 7930), cets (195 warnings) (Diffsize: 27765), friss (Diffsize: 1332), manindu (Diffsize: 2), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1), dutchtrains, rust (15 warnings) (Diffsize: 7633), dutchtramset 18:49:00 <Brot6> (21 warnings) (Diffsize: 24503), swisstowns (Diffsize: 51), britrains (10 warnings) (Diffsize: 62948), dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 203668), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 8), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 8301), ogfx-landscape (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 1314), swedishrails (Diffsize: 1836), german-townnames (Diffsize: 5042), dach (104 warnings) (Diffsize: 30898), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 72), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 350), debugveh, 18:49:02 <Brot6> airportsplus (Diffsize: 6970) 20:13:53 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3127/subtypes.png 20:16:47 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes_2.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3128/subtypes_2.png 20:18:34 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes_3.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3129/subtypes_3.png 20:20:02 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes_4.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3130/subtypes_4.png 20:23:42 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes_4b.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3131/subtypes_4b.png 20:25:10 <Brot6> FISH - subtypes_4v.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3132/subtypes_4v.png 20:28:07 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 781:1257a0e51dc8: Change: experimental text to set subtype textss (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/1257a0e51dc8 21:08:04 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:21:58 <dihedral> Ammler, planetmaker: the thing with github and forking is that there are those projects others want to fork :-P 21:22:27 <dihedral> i just doubt that the forking would be used in 3 - 6 months time after replacing redmine 21:22:28 <planetmaker> dihedral: still. Forking is an essential part of these kind of sites 21:23:01 <dihedral> i do not see why forking is important if nobody is going to use it - but that's just my 2 cents on that 21:23:16 <planetmaker> I challange your assumption that no-one uses it 21:23:30 <dihedral> like i said, 3-6 months in 21:23:42 <dihedral> i could be wrong, but i could also be right :-P 21:26:30 <dihedral> number of projects and number of developers lead me to that assumption 21:49:42 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 13:137941a42682: Add: A few temperate buildings & resource objects. (zephyris) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/137941a42682 22:16:59 <dihedral> good night :) 22:25:29 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 14:e8306de821c6: Add: One more temperate building. (zephyris) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/e8306de821c6 22:34:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #4063 (Closed): NML crash "AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attrib... 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