Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 19th September 2012:
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00:47:35  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1047 to r1048 done -
00:47:57  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1048:5058aa363339: Added B747-400ERF, few changes to BCF XFrankX @
00:51:25  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1049:90ac41ad6b9a: Added B763ER, 744ER to Coding Table XFrankX @
00:51:39  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1048 to r1049 done -
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08:15:28  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #4221 (New): Review commit:5f2aadf219c7 XEddiX @
09:01:31  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2918: OpenTTD target version(s) XplanetmakerX @
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15:29:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #4222 (New): Allow more than 64 user-defined parameters XplanetmakerX @
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17:05:31  <Ammler> planetmaker: 70 parameters :-P
17:06:43  <Brot6> VAST-common - Revision 12:d927692ccd2d: [Update] data folder -> newgrf folder XdnichollsX @
17:07:12  <Ammler> why not do like I did?
17:08:38  <Brot6> nml: update from r2006 to r2007 done -
17:18:43  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1045 to r1049 done -
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17:22:51  <planetmaker> Ammler, yes. exactly
17:24:26  <Ammler> well, then you don't care about the amount of parameters
17:24:32  <Ammler> or shouldn't :-)
17:24:55  <Ammler> or is it that long ago; I forgot how it works?
17:25:28  <Ammler> @wiki basecost
17:25:29  <Webster> Ammler: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:25:41  <Ammler> KenjiE20: ^
17:25:43  <Ammler> @wiki basecost
17:25:44  <Webster> Ammler: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
17:26:49  <KenjiE20> IndexError: list index out of range < python 2.7 broke it
17:27:13  <KenjiE20> or at least the migrate changed something that broke it
17:27:47  <Ammler> hmm, might be I run update there, not sure
17:28:25  <Ammler> the log would tell
17:29:05  <Ammler> KenjiE20: fixeable?
17:29:58  <Ammler> we can't upgrade webster host and I don't think there is a working distro template with py2.7
17:30:11  <Ammler> maybe debian wheezy
17:30:15  <KenjiE20> it's on 2.7
17:30:20  <Alberth> fedora :)
17:30:31  <Ammler> ah ok, so what is the issue?
17:30:49  <Ammler> we didn't upgrade
17:31:07  <KenjiE20> don't know, I'll look later tonight, no time atm
17:31:13  <Ammler> ok, thanks :-)
17:31:30  <Ammler> Alberth: sadly, I don't get fedora to work
17:31:38  <Ammler> same issue as suse
17:31:53  <Alberth> :(
17:36:19  <Ammler> planetmaker: my basecosts basically just needs 2 parameters :-)
17:37:32  <planetmaker> Ammler, and doesn't allow to change every basecost
17:37:39  <planetmaker> at the same time
17:38:09  <Ammler> ah ok, you want to be able to change every cost?
17:38:17  <Alberth> make a "build-me-a-basecost-grf-web-service" :)
17:38:19  <planetmaker> this way I can give each base cost a description, too
17:38:23  <Ammler> hehe poor guy who needs to configure that :-P
17:38:35  <planetmaker> Ammler, it's much easier than yours
17:38:40  <Ammler> ah
17:38:47  <Ammler> so you don't want to do it that way
17:38:53  <planetmaker> just go to the param you want to change. set value. done
17:38:58  <Ammler> you want a parameter per cost?
17:39:12  <planetmaker> yes. intentionally done this way
17:39:41  <Ammler> [19:22] <planetmaker> Ammler, yes. exactly <-- interpretet this wrongly
17:40:34  <planetmaker> I answered the statement "70 parameters" ;-)
17:43:01  <Ammler> well, if not possible, you might need 2 newgrfs
17:43:13  <Ammler> still be better as mine
17:48:45  <frosch123> alternatively you can just fix the problems with the old one :p
17:51:05  <Ammler> well, it still supports all, it just doesn't support it via gui
17:54:02  <Ammler> planetmaker: I could add those missing keys quite easy
17:54:06  <frosch123> the one i got from bananas has a gui, but it is broken
17:54:25  <Ammler> ah ok, so not just #4026 ?
17:54:25  <Brot6> Ammler: #4026 is "Feature #4026: Missing base costs - Base Costs Mod - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
17:54:59  <Ammler> if there are other errors, it is not worth to fix it, instead just wait for pms remake
17:55:58  <frosch123> well, most noticable all parameters default to stations x4
17:56:06  <frosch123> so if you do not want that you have to click all settings :p
17:56:32  <frosch123> and it lacks labels for the lower costs
17:59:34  <Ammler> hmm, thought that is misc
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18:21:40  <KenjiE20> Ammler: I think it's the wiki update that broke it, testing updated plugin now
18:35:11  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 72), airportsplus (Diffsize: 6970), german-townnames (Diffsize: 5042), ogfx-industries (Diffsize: 664), fish (1 warnings), dutchtrains, newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1), zbuild, opengfx, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 8), metrotrackset, indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 350), bandit (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 8191), ogfx-rv, ogfx-landscape
18:35:11  <Brot6> (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 1320), manindu (Diffsize: 2), debugveh (Diffsize: 989), swedishrails, dutchtracks, swisstowns (Diffsize: 51), dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 203965), firs (12 warnings) (Diffsize: 468), britrains (7 warnings) (Diffsize: 67278), cets (192 warnings), make-nml, ogfx-trains (1 warnings), friss (Diffsize: 2160), frenchtowns, uselesstracks
18:36:58  <KenjiE20> Ammler: I think the update and theming make the plugin haywire, it can't parse to find the right content anymore
18:37:51  <Ammler> well, then we simply replace it with a link to
18:43:21  <KenjiE20> @wiki basecosts
18:43:22  <Webster> BaseCosts - #openttdcoop Wiki -
18:43:31  <KenjiE20> there y'are
18:45:02  <Ammler> frosch123: there is no default set for key, why is it stations?
18:45:11  <Ammler> shouldn't it be just the first
18:46:14  <frosch123> oh, sorry, with "station" i actually meant "misc"
18:46:26  <frosch123> iirc it was called something like station maintenance in ottd somewhen
18:46:27  <Ammler> ok, and there is something actually using it?
18:46:49  <Ammler> well, I keep that, there will come a update from pm soon
18:47:12  <Ammler> I consider that a feature, not a bug :-P
18:47:18  <frosch123> iirc it cause ssome cost per station every quartr
18:48:11  <frosch123> with grf7 it also affect station maintaince
18:48:31  <Ammler> yeah, I also keep grf7
18:48:55  <Ammler> no reason to update to v8, is there?
18:49:03  <planetmaker> there's very much reason to
18:49:12  <Ammler> well, I meant for mine :-)
18:49:21  <planetmaker> well. depends ;-)
18:49:36  <frosch123> Ammler: exactly that, you have to click 30 combobox to get rid of high station cost
18:50:39  <Ammler> with v8, that is gone?
18:50:56  <Ammler> hmm, why is that?
18:51:11  <frosch123> the "affects other stuff" is removed
18:51:24  <frosch123> but fixing th edefault to 4x would also fix it :p
18:52:39  <Ammler> hmm, indeed, could just change that 1x
18:53:04  <frosch123> if yuo change it, also add proper labels for the cheper costs
18:53:13  <Ammler> but effects other stuff is essential for this grf, isn't?
18:53:14  <frosch123> "1/2", "1/4", "1/8",...
18:53:29  <frosch123> for silicon valley you need cheap industry founding when playing a short game
18:53:40  <frosch123> and setting the cost to "3" looks wrong :p
18:53:55  <frosch123> Ammler: well yes, you would also have to add the other costs
18:54:05  <frosch123> or just let pm do the work :p
18:55:27  <Ammler> well, I just wanted to fix the 3months old tickets
18:55:42  <Ammler> I mainly wanted to blame you guys that you didn't report
18:55:53  <Ammler> but then I saw 3 tickets ther :'-(
18:57:31  <frosch123> well, i wanted to report it :p
18:57:54  <frosch123> then i though i should just fix it myself, so i can useit
18:58:20  <frosch123> but when i found the magic scriptery i thought i would rather rewrite it from scratch before understanding how it works :p
18:58:48  <frosch123> then there was a option to push that job to pm :)
19:00:03  <Ammler> ok, my script is very easy to understand :-P
19:00:24  <frosch123> well, i am fluent in nfo :)
19:02:21  <Brot6> Base Costs Mod - Revision 26:d9a7e7a9d821: Fix #4026: add basecosts of ottd 1.2 XAmmlerX @
19:02:22  <Brot6> Base Costs Mod - Feature #4033 (Closed): Infrastructure maintenance base costs are missing XAmmlerX @
19:02:22  <Brot6> Base Costs Mod - Feature #4026 (Closed): Missing base costs XAmmlerX @
19:02:27  <frosch123> i also argued with pm whether it would be easier to write in nfo than nml
19:03:06  <Rubidium> syntactically right nfo is easier to write than nml
19:03:42  <Ammler> mine isn't?
19:04:15  <planetmaker> well... nfo might in this particular case be an option even for me ;-)
19:04:34  <Ammler> I have no clue about this whole stuff anymore anyway, I could just extend it
19:04:50  <Ammler> which I have done
19:05:20  <planetmaker> I like the idea of having one param per setting. Which then can be explained. And it should be grf v8 so that settings act "properly" without all the cross-talk as in grfs v7
19:05:28  <Ammler> last missing ticket would be bump to v8 and remove "affects also.." right?
19:06:13  <Ammler> well, I bananas this version and bump then, so we have both on bananas at least
19:14:01  <Ammler> I don't get my grf in anymore
19:14:15  <Ammler> Why the hell did I start with this :-P
19:15:00  <planetmaker> you don't "get your grf in anymore"?
19:16:02  <Ammler> showup in openttd
19:37:00  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #4221 (Assigned): Review commit:5f2aadf219c7 XEddiX @
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