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05:47:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4424 (Closed): Food Market - wrong trees in temperate / tropic XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4424 05:47:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2994:854319e6b4d2: Fix: restore climate-awareness to food m... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/854319e6b4d2 05:47:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4424 (Closed): Food Market - wrong trees in temperate / tropic XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4424#change-12060 05:47:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:48:00 <Brot6> firs: update from r2993 to r2994 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2994 05:56:35 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3034 (Rejected): Conversion of spritelayout templates to th... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3034#change-12062 06:48:52 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:23:46 *** Zuu has quit IRC 08:07:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: we should not discuss devzone specific topics in #rhodecode ;-) 08:26:21 <planetmaker> I thought it's related to rhodecode :-) 08:27:50 <Ammler> well, as you found out yourself, the same issue with hgweb 08:28:28 <Ammler> your request could be done similar with user sharing maybe 08:30:16 <planetmaker> yes. And still, rhodecode might supply a solution the simplistic hgweb cannot offer 08:30:57 <Ammler> well, the main reason we switched to rhodecode is to clone/pull big repos 08:31:27 <Ammler> fist step was to have at least capabilites of hgweb 08:31:42 <Ammler> which should be fullfilled 08:32:54 <Ammler> replacing push is still a big TODO :-) 08:33:10 <planetmaker> push.o.o you mean? 08:33:17 <Ammler> yep 08:35:48 <planetmaker> so... hg.o.o now shall replace what you moved to hgweb.o.o? 08:36:21 <planetmaker> honestly, I do think that the rhodecode view should get a new name and hg.o.o remain as it was 08:36:37 <planetmaker> instead of rewriting everything and moving the old hg.o.o to a new name 08:36:57 <planetmaker> especially given that rhodecode is a lot slower than hgweb 08:38:06 <planetmaker> hm... of course there's reasons for both, changing and not changing 08:38:28 <planetmaker> but I'm a bit more in favour of not changing, but just adding new 08:39:02 <planetmaker> or what's the reason to move hg.o.o->hgweb.o.o and rhodecode.o.o->hg.o.o and keeping rhodecode.o.o? 08:39:17 <planetmaker> only benefit I see is to introduce many rewrite rules ;-) 08:40:14 <Ammler> [10:30] <Ammler> well, the main reason we switched to rhodecode is to clone/pull big repos 08:40:16 <planetmaker> so in short: I very much like what I see on hg.o.o now, but rather would have it on a new domain 08:40:23 <planetmaker> and keep hg.o.o as it was 08:40:32 <planetmaker> that's not my argument, Ammler ;-) 08:40:51 <Ammler> hgweb.o.o does not allow to clone/pull zbase 08:40:53 <planetmaker> my argument is only for the naming of the sub domains and what they stand for 08:41:11 <planetmaker> yes, that I know. Also not my argument 08:41:37 <planetmaker> But keep it simple. Don't shuffle around the meaning of the domains. Just add a new rhodecode.o.o for the rhodecode stuff. That's it 08:41:41 <Ammler> you think, it would be easiest to communicate people to use rhodecode.o.o instead hg.o.o ? 08:41:42 <planetmaker> we can then promote it 08:42:05 <Ammler> instead simply replace hg.o.o with another service 08:42:47 <Ammler> the rewrite I made to support possible links to hg.o.o, e.g. readme etc. 08:43:30 <Ammler> well, if you tell me how to fix hg.o.o, I am with you 08:43:52 <Ammler> for me, switching to rhodecode was the only fix I found 08:44:30 <Ammler> you didn't use hg.o.o to browse 08:44:39 <Ammler> it is just for clone/pull 08:44:47 <planetmaker> sorry, did you read my argument? I say using rhodecode is great. But I say it should not replace hg.o.o 08:44:53 <Ammler> so does it really that much matter of browse speed? 08:44:57 <planetmaker> and yes, I DID use hg.o.o to browse a repo 08:45:07 <planetmaker> and it's a factor of > 10 08:45:18 * Rubidium too 08:45:28 <Rubidium> useful to see what Zeph changes 08:45:37 <planetmaker> especially the starting page of hg.o.o is much slower 08:45:50 <Ammler> still? 08:45:52 <Rubidium> especially since the redmine thing is lagging 08:46:00 <planetmaker> (I also use hg.openttd.org to view what changed) ;-) 08:46:03 <Ammler> Rubidium: that was a migration issue 08:46:17 <planetmaker> Ammler, speed did not improve for me 08:46:39 <planetmaker> at least not psychologically 08:46:48 <Ammler> so you prefer to keep the uncloneable hgweb? 08:46:58 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:47:42 <Ammler> well, switch back is done quite fast 08:47:57 <Ammler> hg.o.o is just an alias of whatever service we use 08:48:08 <Rubidium> goedeNmorgen Alberth ;) 08:48:21 <Alberth> hi hi 08:48:27 <planetmaker> *sigh*. Please listen: I say that rhodecode is VERY NICE. But I do not understand why the service on hg.o.o needs to change. Why not just introduce rhodecode for the clonging etc on ... rhodecode.o.o? We have to communicate changes anyway, one way or another 08:48:29 <Ammler> hgweb.o.o and rhodecode.o.o are the main service domains 08:49:06 <Ammler> planetmaker: but the main purpose of hg.o.o is cloning/pull 08:49:18 <Ammler> so wouldn't it be easier to use hgweb.o.o for you 08:49:26 <planetmaker> funnily, at home, the rhodecode.o.o (or current hg.o.o) is split in sections. Here at work I get the full list 08:49:29 <Ammler> so you don't need to communicate 08:49:45 <Ammler> planetmaker: cache 08:50:03 <Alberth> aka 'smart system' :p 08:50:08 <planetmaker> a cache would load in very short time. But it took > 10 seconds to load here, Ammler 08:50:15 <Ammler> well, future plan was of course to shutdown hgweb 08:52:09 <planetmaker> actually, loading the complete hg.openttdcoop.org takes here about 1 minute 08:52:17 <planetmaker> a page which contains all repos 08:52:19 <Ammler> 1s here 08:52:59 <planetmaker> and you get the sectioned view or not? 08:53:17 <Ammler> yes, no cache here 08:53:48 <Ammler> hmm, maybe we need to set some prosy settings? 08:53:59 <Ammler> you have a proxy in your work running? 08:54:06 <planetmaker> no. Direct internet @ 100Mbit 08:54:20 <planetmaker> (the limit is the router :-( ) 08:54:51 <Ammler> well, obviously there is another issue 08:58:16 <Ammler> planetmaker: what url do you use? 08:59:23 <planetmaker> hg.openttdcoop.org 09:00:06 <Ammler> are you able to try with another browser 09:00:41 <Ammler> I have the feeling the new dashboard even loads faster as hgweb 09:01:02 <Ammler> (force-reload) 09:02:52 <planetmaker> Ammler, I think it just eats all my cpu rendering that page... 09:04:12 <Ammler> also on another browser? 09:04:44 <Rubidium> hg: 8s, hgweb: 2s for loading a zbase commit (from the changelog) 09:04:56 <Rubidium> (obviously comparing the same commit) 09:07:01 <Ammler> actually I think it was still a good idea to switch hg.o.o to rhodecode, also when we won't keep it 09:07:10 <Ammler> those tests wouldn't be done else 09:07:36 <Ammler> also the traffic with search engines is quite much higher there 09:08:03 <planetmaker> Ammler, please note: I am IN FAVOUR of using and offering rhodecode... but I'm not convinced that we should replace the previous hg.o.o with it 09:08:06 <Ammler> i also think, rhodecode has a serious mem leak 09:09:38 <planetmaker> I'm only not (yet?) convinced to replace hg.o.o by rhodecode.o.o 09:10:03 <Alberth> the obvious counter argument is that rhodecode has a serious mem leak :) 09:11:06 <Ammler> :-) 09:11:16 <Alberth> ie do you really want to replace your service by a service which is known to be broken? 09:11:18 <Rubidium> does it leak memory, or is it by design to use as much memory as possible? 09:11:18 <planetmaker> Ammler, the view on a specific repo itself, that is not a problem for me with rhodecode. That is fast enough 09:11:23 <Ammler> well, the obvious benefit is that you can clone zbase 09:11:37 <planetmaker> which is good enough reason to offer it. ^ 09:11:42 <Rubidium> as I know a certain application using 60 GiB of memory and nobody complaining it leaks memory ;) 09:11:49 <planetmaker> also the option to have the web interface for the repo 09:12:26 <Ammler> Rubidium: according to the dev, the dashboard is the only page in memory cache 09:12:31 <Ammler> so it should not rise 09:14:58 <Ammler> and the new dashboard shouldn't use any mem cache 09:29:37 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/firs/rev/429b376e109f gives 404 (missing rewrite) 09:33:07 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/firs/log/2970 similar 09:48:25 <Alberth> % hg fetch 09:48:25 <Alberth> remote: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host 09:48:25 <Alberth> abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 10:13:16 <planetmaker> which url, Alberth ? 10:18:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: does not matter 10:18:56 <Ammler> the issue is that rhodecode uses that much memory, there is no left to run the monitor :-) 10:19:06 <Ammler> I guess, I need to run it outside of dev :-P 10:19:18 <planetmaker> hm? 10:19:27 <planetmaker> oh, the ssh is then re-directed, too? 10:20:14 <planetmaker> well. good reason to keep hg as-is (few only) and just try to convince people to use rhodecode.o.o when trying to work with repos 10:20:23 <Alberth> ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/zbase 10:20:36 <Ammler> no, I meant, if there is memroy excess, it does not matter which url you try ;-) 10:21:08 <Alberth> just limit rhodecode memory? 10:21:42 <Ammler> another nice benefit of virutal server, if virtualserver itself is not controllable anymore, you can still control it via hypervisor 10:23:46 <planetmaker> :-) 12:03:14 *** Dr_Tan has quit IRC 12:03:17 *** Nat_aS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:26:58 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:55:43 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4323: Wrong number of sprites for the toffee quarry XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4323#change-12064 14:56:37 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4323: Wrong number of sprites for the toffee quarry XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4323#change-12066 15:12:48 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4397 (Closed): Left has partial foundations XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4397#change-12052 15:12:48 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4397 (Reopened): Left has partial foundations XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4397#change-12068 15:23:57 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4399: toy factory problems XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4399#change-12070 15:49:37 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:04:45 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 17:10:30 *** Nat_aS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:54:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:21:54 <Brot6> zbuild: update from r68 to r69 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/nightlies/r69 18:24:38 <Brot6> firs: update from r2982 to r2994 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2994 18:45:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2995:2494d4d06b2f: Codechange: convert bauxite mine to use ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2494d4d06b2f 18:46:16 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4426 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4426 18:47:31 <Brot6> firs: compile of r2996 still failed (#4426) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/ERROR/r2996 18:47:45 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2996:a3f71e2456ed: Codechange: make ADD_FENCES define small... XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a3f71e2456ed 18:51:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2997:51a666b28300: Fix: add missing file XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/51a666b28300 18:51:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2998:5186f6c8e745: Codechange: swap THIS_ID for python meth... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5186f6c8e745 18:51:40 <Brot6> firs: update from r2994 to r2997 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2997 18:52:56 <Brot6> firs: update from r2997 to r2998 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2998 18:53:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4426 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4426 18:53:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4426 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4426#change-12072 18:55:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4415: Unwanted Subsidence XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4415#change-12074 19:01:56 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2999:0d0a7c801dc4: Codechange: convert bauxite mine spritel... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/0d0a7c801dc4 19:02:25 <Brot6> firs: update from r2998 to r2999 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2999 19:02:29 <andythenorth> there we go :P 19:02:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3000:631310a86c90: Cleanup: remove all nfo code XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/631310a86c90 19:02:49 <^Spike^> ... 19:03:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4415: Unwanted Subsidence XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4415#change-12076 19:03:44 <Brot6> firs: update from r2999 to r3000 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3000 19:03:50 <andythenorth> nml FIRS is way less headache :) 19:06:40 <Alberth> \o/ 19:07:00 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:24:23 <Ammler> andythenorth: wasn't there once a time you wanted to give up nml and continue with nfo only? 19:24:30 <andythenorth> yes 19:32:07 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:33:17 <andythenorth> Yexo: you should have included a troll face with your forum post ;) 19:33:27 <andythenorth> I bet someone replies asking why we deleted FIRS 19:36:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3001:b9c0fdc36345: Codechange: python templating complete f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b9c0fdc36345 19:37:28 <frosch123> quick, everyone make backup copies of heqs and fish! 19:37:40 <Brot6> firs: update from r3000 to r3001 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3001 19:38:14 <andythenorth> hmm 19:38:16 <andythenorth> heqs 19:38:18 <andythenorth> that's nfo 19:38:46 <frosch123> didn't you wanted to add elephants to it? 19:38:58 <frosch123> :p 19:39:04 <andythenorth> elephants need an nml conversion definitely 19:39:24 <andythenorth> also....today, andythenorth is far too busy to discuss subtypes :P 19:39:34 <andythenorth> which means frosch123 won't leave 19:39:38 <andythenorth> maybe 19:39:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3002:c64669e813bb: Codechange: correct an identifier in oil... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c64669e813bb 19:39:47 <frosch123> well, maybe elephants would need custom vehicle effects 19:39:54 <Brot6> firs: update from r3001 to r3002 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3002 19:39:58 <frosch123> like water fountains instead of smoke 19:40:03 <andythenorth> which end of the elephant do the effects come from? 19:40:21 <andythenorth> hmm 19:40:27 <andythenorth> that would be a feature for horses too :P 19:40:40 <frosch123> oh, i guess wales weres rarely used for transprot 19:40:48 <andythenorth> only in the bible :P 19:40:54 <frosch123> though i seem to remember they have 1 pax capacity 19:40:58 <frosch123> exactly :p 19:41:14 <andythenorth> anybody want to join me in converting FIRS? It's mindlessly therapuetic 19:41:26 <andythenorth> copy, paste, change :P 19:42:57 <frosch123> do you want to convert firs to nfo? or what :p 19:43:20 <andythenorth> yes, it's a recode from scratch :) 19:43:29 <andythenorth> in advanced nfo :P 19:43:43 <andythenorth> templated with lisp 19:44:16 <frosch123> the lisp language family is the one which i have had the least contact with 19:44:44 <andythenorth> me too 19:44:44 <frosch123> if you ignore my failed attempts with some old gimp script thingie, you can even say none 19:44:58 <andythenorth> should FIRS have a soup factory? 19:45:06 * andythenorth is eating soup 19:45:15 <frosch123> input cargo? 19:45:22 <frosch123> water and grain? 19:45:51 <frosch123> or water plus any other cargo? 19:48:18 <andythenorth> chicken :P 19:48:47 * andythenorth ponders a soup industry grf 19:49:02 <andythenorth> various industries 19:49:27 <andythenorth> primary cargos: chicken, beef, tomato, basil, onion, potato, pearl barley, sweetcorn, water 19:49:30 <andythenorth> output: soup 19:49:45 <frosch123> maybe a cooking grf 19:50:11 <frosch123> you can deliver any ingredients to the cooking industry, but depending on the cargo you deliver the result might not sell well 19:50:17 <andythenorth> he 19:50:26 <andythenorth> spec can't support that :P 19:51:07 <andythenorth> the idea of just one secondary cargo (soup) amuses me though 19:51:47 <andythenorth> maybe it should make use of subtypes? o_O 19:56:03 <andythenorth> ha ha 19:56:06 <andythenorth> fences just work 19:56:35 <andythenorth> I paste a CPP id into my chameleon template and it just keeps on trucking ;) 19:59:39 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3003:9205a35e5651: Change: provide support for fences in py... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9205a35e5651 20:00:46 <Brot6> firs: update from r3002 to r3003 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3003 20:25:34 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3004:c84a0e4550ea: Codechange: copy fences into python spri... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c84a0e4550ea 20:25:57 <Brot6> firs: update from r3003 to r3004 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3004 20:26:30 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3005:c48ac121cc03: Fix: wrong register vars used for two fe... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c48ac121cc03 20:27:11 <Brot6> firs: update from r3004 to r3005 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3005 20:36:30 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3006:2e07b40fa913: Fix: a number of stupid mistakes correct... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2e07b40fa913 20:36:40 <Brot6> firs: update from r3005 to r3006 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3006 20:36:59 * andythenorth wonders how many fence types it's necessary to support 20:39:12 <andythenorth> originalt TTD graphics have two common types 20:51:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3007:27408e159d43: Codechange: unify 3 fence macro calls to... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/27408e159d43 20:52:04 <Brot6> firs: update from r3006 to r3007 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3007 20:52:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3008:ea9905ab984f: Codechange: add some missing GPL notific... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ea9905ab984f 20:53:04 * andythenorth -> bed 20:53:18 <Brot6> firs: update from r3007 to r3008 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3008 20:54:47 <Rubidium> night andythenorth 20:54:55 <andythenorth> bye 20:54:55 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:55:07 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3009:51d643d2341a: Codechange: improve a comment XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/51d643d2341a 20:56:12 <Brot6> firs: update from r3008 to r3009 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3009 20:57:28 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:57:30 <andythenorth> hmm 20:57:41 <andythenorth> fences 20:57:52 <andythenorth> I could specify them on a per-tile-per-layout basis 20:58:00 <andythenorth> or less fine grained than that 21:00:30 <andythenorth> maybe per-spritelayout is sufficient 21:00:46 <andythenorth> probably bed time 21:00:48 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:32:25 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 5:fa64983225a2: New vehicles - SN61, Bh, Uacs. 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