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00:00:12 <Brot6> NUTS Unrealistic Train Set - AREYOUNUTS2400.png XV453000X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4697/AREYOUNUTS2400.png 00:00:31 <V453000> wat 02:00:55 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:29:33 *** gelignite has quit IRC 03:19:41 *** George has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:10:12 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 09:47:26 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:05:16 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 10:05:42 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:08:46 *** Brot6 is now known as Guest444 11:09:02 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:10:00 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 11:10:07 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:12:31 *** tneo has quit IRC 11:12:52 *** tneo- has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:14:36 *** V453000 has quit IRC 11:14:56 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 11:15:11 *** Guest444 has quit IRC 11:15:11 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:15:11 *** Yexo has quit IRC 11:15:16 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 11:15:22 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:22 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:52 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:17:52 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:18:22 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:18:56 *** gelignite has quit IRC 17:10:53 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:12:01 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:18:39 <Brot6> isr: update from r178 to r180 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/nightlies/r180 17:46:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:46:53 <andythenorth> hi 17:53:20 <andythenorth> so animation 17:55:17 <andythenorth> hmm 17:55:23 <andythenorth> I just made FIRS compile 20x faster 17:55:50 <planetmaker> how that? 17:55:57 <andythenorth> turned off all the industry imports :( 17:56:01 <planetmaker> :D 17:58:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5888 (New): Turn back on all industries AND Coal Mine build... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5888 18:07:10 <andythenorth> herp 18:07:26 <andythenorth> how do I return a random value for the next animation frame? 18:07:29 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:07:45 <andythenorth> (this is in a switch, not spriteset) 18:07:53 <Alberth> o/ 18:08:01 <planetmaker> callback anim_next_frame: make use of the random switch or so, andythenorth 18:08:03 <planetmaker> hello Alberth 18:09:18 <andythenorth> k random switch it is 18:09:28 <andythenorth> I was trying to get the random bits and use them as return value 18:09:35 <andythenorth> probably not a good route :P 18:09:46 <planetmaker> Alberth, I did a mistake. I comitted your translator stuff as in make-nml to the xussr set. Which I then was not aware to use CC-BY-ND 18:10:05 <planetmaker> shall I revert that commit or do you grant a special license to George and that set? 18:10:34 <Rubidium> can't you just license that part differently? 18:10:52 <planetmaker> yes. George even suggested that himself. But did not follow up on that 18:11:59 <Alberth> that would be the easiest solution imho 18:12:52 <Alberth> ie I'd like to have changes made to my code published 18:13:13 <andythenorth> hmm 18:13:30 <andythenorth> when working on a FIRS industry, it's way nicer to only compile that industry :P 18:13:35 <andythenorth> 9s instead of ~180s 18:13:48 <andythenorth> I wonder if I should invest 1 day in making that frameworked :P 18:15:32 <Alberth> http://xkcd.com/1205/ 18:15:33 <Webster> Title: xkcd: Is It Worth the Time? (at xkcd.com) 18:15:54 <planetmaker> ha, I quite liked that, Alberth :-) ^ 18:16:50 <andythenorth> it's not just time saved :P 18:16:57 <andythenorth> it's pleasure of doing the work 18:17:22 <Alberth> hmm, that would be a very different scale :p 18:18:12 <andythenorth> "does this make you want to stop working on the project?" 18:18:23 <andythenorth> "yes: invest as much time as you can spare" :P 18:18:40 <Alberth> :) 18:21:19 <Alberth> I think money would be a good cargo for the trees at the plantation :) 18:22:05 <andythenorth> :P 18:35:25 <andythenorth> biab 18:35:35 <andythenorth> think I have animation triggers working fine 18:35:49 <andythenorth> but I need a reliable away to offset animation in two tiles at the coalmine 18:35:55 <andythenorth> if it's synchronised it looks stupid 18:36:02 <andythenorth> maybe check the tile location in the layout? 19:06:12 <George> Hello! 19:06:34 <George> I'd like to inform you, that we did a voting 19:07:04 <George> The result is to change xUSSR set license to CC-NC-SA 19:07:24 <George> Hope this would solve all the licensing issues 19:07:46 <George> Let me know if there are some issues left 19:09:01 <George> Alberth: Hope you would grand the permisson to use your tool with the set under CC-NC-SA 19:09:27 <planetmaker> CC licenses do not require to share any code 19:09:32 <planetmaker> Hello George :-) 19:10:31 <George> planetmaker: what problem does it lead to? 19:11:02 <George> the code of the xUSSr set is avaialble on the devzone 19:11:19 <planetmaker> I understood alberth that he wants to make sure that everyone who uses his code is required to share the modification he makes. 19:11:36 <Alberth> I would like changes to my code always published, I don't mind what the license of is of the newgrf code that uses my code 19:11:57 <planetmaker> But he's right, it's easy to state different license info for the language status (and then the Makefile) (GPL) and the xussr set (CC-BY-NC-SA) 19:13:02 <Alberth> (09:14:26 PM) planetmaker: I understood alberth that he wants to make sure that everyone who uses his code is required to share the modification he makes. <-- where "the modification" is only for my code 19:14:31 <Alberth> If you say in the project that my file is under the GPL license, I am happy 19:14:42 <andythenorth> hmm 19:14:42 <Alberth> and I hope you find my code useful :) 19:15:02 <andythenorth> how would I test for "integer is even" in nml / nfo? 19:15:38 <andythenorth> ach nvm 19:15:41 <andythenorth> there's a better way 19:16:00 <George> Alberth: if you mean about your files themselves (http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/xussrset/repository/show/scripts), they has GPL specified inside 19:16:11 <George> I have not change any of it 19:16:42 <Alberth> andythenorth: (num & 1) == 0 19:16:52 <George> Alberth: Yes, I find your code useful 19:19:06 <planetmaker> George, I think the suggestion is like you suggested last time: 19:19:25 <planetmaker> in your license.txt add two parts: 19:19:44 <planetmaker> a) Makefile and translation status: GPL (bla bla for license) 19:20:04 <planetmaker> b) xussr set code and images: CC-BY-NC-SA (bla bla for license) 19:20:22 <Alberth> ok, there is a license listed in the python files as well, that seems to be covered already 19:20:50 <Alberth> planetmaker: good suggestion, that should prevent any confusion 19:32:21 <andythenorth> I have a switch 19:32:48 <andythenorth> I need the result to be (relative_x * 4) + (relative_y * 4) 19:33:20 <andythenorth> do I just do that maths as an expression? 19:33:28 * andythenorth tries 19:34:36 <andythenorth> hmm 19:34:42 <andythenorth> but then I want to return that as the result 19:35:28 <andythenorth> ach 19:35:29 <andythenorth> nvm 19:38:14 <Alberth> (relative_x + relative_y) * 4 or (relative_x + relative_y) << 2 ? 19:39:54 <andythenorth> trying to find a guaranteed way to desync animation between two tiles 19:42:40 <andythenorth> might be tmwftlb :( 19:42:45 <andythenorth> frosch123 any ideas? 19:42:47 <andythenorth> ^ 19:45:02 <planetmaker> George: http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/xussr_license.diff 19:45:39 <planetmaker> ^ That would in my ideas satisfy it all just fine 19:46:15 * andythenorth finds a dirty solution 19:46:17 <George> Yes, that should be commited, please 19:46:23 <planetmaker> give your code your license (the CC-BY-SA-NC you suggested, which I'm very happy about). And Alberth's and my code) the GPL 19:46:30 <planetmaker> oh 19:46:32 <planetmaker> ok :-) 19:46:43 <andythenorth> maybe I should have recoded all the coal mine layouts, instead of hacking on top of the default tiles :/ 19:48:26 <andythenorth> so how do I tell if relative_x is odd or even? o_O 19:48:38 <andythenorth> what is (num & 1) == 0 doing? 19:49:18 <andythenorth> Alberth: ^ 19:50:30 <Alberth> it's true for even numbers 19:50:42 <andythenorth> true returns 1 in nml? 19:50:52 * andythenorth has forgotten nml 19:51:10 <Alberth> (num & 1) is easier, it gives 0 for even, and 1 for odd numbers 19:51:23 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r960 to r961 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r961 19:51:28 <Alberth> no idea what it does for weird numbers though :p 19:53:20 <andythenorth> seems to work ;) 19:54:34 <Alberth> :) 20:32:11 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5888 (Closed): Turn back on all industries AND Coal Mine bu... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5888 20:32:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5888 (Closed): Turn back on all industries AND Coal Mine bu... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5888#change-15755 20:35:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3653:174da911d342: Feature: animated cables for Coal Mine (... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/174da911d342 20:37:41 <Brot6> firs: update from r3652 to r3653 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3653 20:37:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4481 (Closed): New Coal Mine Sprites XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4481#change-15758 20:45:07 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3654:7f91675de80d: Docs: update changelog for 1.1.0 release XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7f91675de80d 20:46:56 <Brot6> firs: update from r3653 to r3654 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3654 20:47:38 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3655:081abe344c53: Added tag 1.1.0 for changeset 7f91675de8... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/081abe344c53 20:49:47 <Brot6> firs: update from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/1.1.0 20:55:28 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:57:10 <andythenorth> released 20:57:12 <andythenorth> bed time 20:57:38 <andythenorth> 9k downloads since the last release (April 10th) 20:57:40 <andythenorth> players are busy 21:02:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:27:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:10:06 *** Jam35 has quit IRC