Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 10th September 2012:
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18:26:58  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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18:27:35  <Yexo> !revision
18:27:36  <Nachtigall> Yexo: Game version is r24502
18:29:03  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
18:29:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I will be 10 mins or so
18:29:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> eating
18:29:32  <Yexo> were can I find the correct firs build?
18:29:51  <andythenorth> Yexo: 1 min
18:30:00  <frosch123>
18:30:05  <frosch123> the 2876M
18:30:08  <andythenorth> hmm
18:30:13  <andythenorth> I don't have op to change topic :P
18:30:15  <andythenorth>
18:30:45  <andythenorth> frosch123: pax money maker seemed like a total winner yesterday
18:30:50  <andythenorth> having money is more fun :)
18:31:20  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
18:32:08  <Yexo> hmm, no goals?
18:33:34  <frosch123> Yexo: join company
18:33:38  <frosch123> only company goals
18:33:44  <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has joined company #1
18:33:45  <frosch123> andythenorth: yeah, we should do that again
18:33:48  <Nachtigall> <Yexo> ah :)
18:33:57  <frosch123> Yexo: every company has its own goals
18:34:00  <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has joined company #1
18:34:22  <frosch123> do you already want to start with the money maker?
18:34:29  <Nachtigall> <Yexo> do we play coop or competitive?
18:34:41  <frosch123> coop usually
18:34:49  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> maybe disable servicing because disasters are off?
18:34:50  <frosch123> the goal is choosen for that
18:34:57  <Nachtigall> <Yexo> ok :)
18:35:07  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I meant breakdowns ;)
18:35:19  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so what's the best money maker in this environment?
18:35:51  <frosch123> pax most likely
18:35:57  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> hmm, goods and fish
18:36:03  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> but yeah, pax is abundant
18:36:06  <frosch123> enabled the service thingie
18:36:56  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> what about Luningville <-> Great Bondingbury
18:37:12  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> on the south west side of the mountain range
18:38:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 to Luningville - Great Bondingbury
18:38:19  <Nachtigall> <Yexo> +1, looks fine as starter
18:38:25  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> 5 long dualhead monorail?
18:38:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ach
18:38:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I meant to ask you to allow insane train lengths
18:38:44  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> i.e. millenium z1
18:38:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 7 is so limiting
18:38:57  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth often has 20 or 30 tile trains :P
18:39:16  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> please unpause, or enable building while paused ;)
18:39:20  <frosch123> signs work btw
18:39:22  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1
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18:39:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> this is going to be very hard btw
18:39:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> low amount of oil
18:39:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not much coal
18:39:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not much bauxite
18:40:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not many forests
18:40:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> have fun :D
18:42:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am building one ship again :P
18:42:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> because I like them
18:42:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and yesterday it made money fast
18:44:22  <Yexo> sorry, have to go, I won't be able to play tonight :(
18:44:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o
18:44:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :0
18:44:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :)
18:44:38  <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (leaving)
18:44:52  <andythenorth> bye Yexo
18:47:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
18:47:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains will pay back within 1 year
18:47:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ships probably 18 months
18:47:54  <frosch123> i placed a sign at a steel mill
18:47:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> interestink
18:48:09  <frosch123> it's in proximity of our town to deliver some metal shop there
18:48:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks there
18:48:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for the coal
18:48:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have fast trucks
18:48:37  <frosch123> oh, machine shop
18:49:01  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> trucks are stupid
18:49:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :(
18:49:37  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> you can use tram for the short routes
18:49:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks much faster :)
18:49:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but cost too much
18:50:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> all iron / coal to one steel mill?  Seems inefficient...
18:50:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I would rather move metal a long distance than coal / iron ore
18:51:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I cba to maglev short routes
18:51:56  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i think we need one more pax train
18:51:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains are fast enough
18:52:52  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> there are only 4 steel mills anyway
18:59:12  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> the goal is transporting crap to Ginfingfield, right? From the area where you are constructing stuff
18:59:31  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> then shall I start begining a main line from Ginfingfield to there?
18:59:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> goal is to build 4 industries at Ginfingfield
18:59:46  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then supply them
18:59:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then haul away the production
19:00:02  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> but they are going to be supplied with metal, right?
19:00:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1
19:00:08  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the metal shall go to out town, yes
19:00:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> get making ENSP as soon as possible :)
19:00:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then fly it back with planes to the mines
19:00:28  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then we have a feedback loop :)
19:01:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll get that pax subsidy
19:08:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho ho
19:08:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we spent all the money
19:10:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah
19:10:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more metal trains :)
19:10:11  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> more moneys!
19:10:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I always fly the supplies back
19:10:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> although we could use the maglevs
19:10:37  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> go for it ;)
19:10:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> monorails /s
19:10:47  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we don't have maglev yet
19:10:47  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't build maglev
19:10:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes avoid congestion :)
19:10:51  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it's ugly
19:11:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ensp by plane is 100% realistic anyway
19:11:13  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> planes are pure congestion
19:11:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so it must be ok :P
19:11:37  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more metal trains needed
19:11:43  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: more moneys!
19:12:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to make the monorails refit to ensp
19:12:35  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> fine, as long as they don't full load at Ginfingfield
19:12:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no
19:12:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they just pick up whatever is there
19:13:21  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hello
19:13:23  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lo Hirundo :)
19:15:37  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the road stops at Wrunthill are connected to the pickup station
19:15:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they are for incoming ensp
19:15:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fyi ;)
19:16:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
19:17:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf
19:17:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> why are those monorails loading metal at Ginfingfield?
19:18:16  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Are they?
19:18:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o
19:18:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the autorefit is totally failing
19:18:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they're just not refitting :o
19:18:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> since when is autorefit broken? :P
19:19:57  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hmm yes, there's something wrong
19:20:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to use planes instead
19:20:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but that's odd
19:20:25  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: connect that airport to Ginfingfield south please
19:20:27  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> does the wagon allow autorefitting at all?
19:20:37  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf
19:20:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it just started delivering supplies :P
19:20:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> despite the trains don't refit
19:21:00  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth is confused :)
19:21:02  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: because I made a truck go there
19:21:12  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> in the hope that then the trains would refit
19:21:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah :)
19:21:49  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> It seems there is money to spare... what can I do?
19:21:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> let me build a plane first
19:22:01  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> create more metal?
19:22:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes are ridiculously costly
19:22:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> got one
19:26:23  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i am switching to forests
19:26:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> good call
19:26:33  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> everything to "sawmill" sign
19:26:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we'll need farm supplies
19:26:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have loads at the machine ship
19:26:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shop*
19:27:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need to do oil
19:27:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am supplying the rigs with ensp
19:27:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> around Plindhattan
19:27:42  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> how does oil get ensp?
19:27:56  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> s/get/become/
19:28:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil -> refinery -> gasoline -> machine shop
19:28:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> also oil -> chemicals -> lumber yard
19:28:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I placed a sign for refinery
19:29:09  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that's quite a distance
19:29:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ship -> transfer -> monorail
19:29:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should be ok?
19:31:20  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> should I join with existing track or build directly to sawmill from !here-sign?
19:31:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we're low on cash
19:32:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> use existing
19:32:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ?
19:32:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then expand in last couple of years before deadline
19:35:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> handy?
19:35:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there's coal there
19:38:04  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> where to found the timber yard?
19:38:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it doesn't produce FMSP
19:38:21  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> next to the other industry?
19:38:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so doesn't need to be in FMSP airport catchment
19:38:53  <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving)
19:39:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there is a second steel mill running
19:39:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> needs metal collecting
19:39:28  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> has a sign
19:41:46  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> grr
19:41:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil trains are stuck at Ginfingfield
19:41:53  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> why can't I even make a refit work?
19:49:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
19:49:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no cargo graphics for scrap metal apparently
19:50:01  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the main line needs four tracks
19:50:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> some industries are now producing at 4x
19:50:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they could use more trains
19:50:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or bigger trains :P
19:50:23  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we are at 50% metal transport :p
19:54:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> tl 5 is to twee :)
19:57:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah
19:57:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so we have to use depot refits :o
19:57:46  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sorry
19:57:52  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth did bad
19:57:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I thought that station would be faster this way
19:58:49  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i kill this pax tram
19:58:56  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it blocks the main line :p
19:59:50  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> do we have an alu plant yet?
19:59:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no
19:59:59  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't think so
20:00:05  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> should we?
20:00:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yes
20:00:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah
20:00:32  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil piling up everywhere :P
20:00:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 6m litres at Grontburg north
20:00:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P
20:02:02  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'll use alu plant near steel mill 2
20:02:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need to haul metal from there
20:04:07  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what industry type nexT?
20:04:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> recyclables!
20:04:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> forget that
20:04:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wrong question
20:04:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the forge is crap
20:04:46  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> oh, there are only two types to produce eng supplies
20:04:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so either machine shop
20:04:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or lumber yard...
20:04:54  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so second machine shop
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> connect all the bauxite?
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> doesn't matter
20:05:02  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we need to deliver farm sup to the forrests
20:05:04  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> and chemicals to alu plant also
20:05:06  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> not enough timber
20:05:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we should dump all recyclables to Chatburg Springs recycling plant
20:05:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and get scrap metal out
20:05:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are lots of recyclables on map
20:05:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh gah
20:05:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I can't move enough oil
20:06:15  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> built second machine shop
20:06:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh
20:06:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the ooil trains take a stupid route
20:06:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops
20:06:44  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth goes direct
20:19:09  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> After fixing the refinery, it's safe to add quite a few more chemical trains methinks
20:26:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> collectiing some supplies? :P
20:26:34  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> there are 4k eng supplies at the airport
20:26:37  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> andy: the 'concrete slabs platform' non-track tile is messed up
20:26:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that mine is already maxed out btw
20:26:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Hirundo: I know
20:26:44  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> they noly count to the goal on final delivery
20:26:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I screwed up chips :P
20:26:56  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we have to dump there somewhere
20:27:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> right
20:27:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lot of tractors going to that mine now :)
20:27:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
20:27:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we'd better think about trying to win
20:27:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need 79m for a machine ship?
20:28:10  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what?
20:28:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need a 4th industry
20:28:32  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> timber does not seem to be enough
20:28:38  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> and we can better boost metal
20:28:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup
20:28:44  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 79k
20:28:50  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> not 79M
20:28:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops :P
20:29:00  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i buld a 4th
20:29:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I bet we can get more timber
20:35:49  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we need some trains for the 3rd machine shop
20:35:55  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> where to get stuff from? :)
20:36:01  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'm building some from alu / steel mill 2
20:38:03  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> frosch: to which station?
20:38:13  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> transfer
20:43:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> big airport is short of helipads
20:43:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lame :P
20:44:56  <Zuu> Helistation?
20:45:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes can't land there :)
20:45:36  <Zuu> You need the equivalent of multiple road stops per station but for airports :-)
20:45:55  <Zuu> Or set up a transfer system and use helistation for helicopters :-)
20:45:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more track!
20:45:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> faste!
20:46:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> everything is stuck!
20:47:32  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> no, I added that track on purpose
20:47:55  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> trains from above only need the outside track
20:48:46  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hirundo:  Ctrl+landscaping => diagonal landscaping
20:48:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho
20:48:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how handy
20:49:12  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> (assuming it was Hirundo who flattened the land)
20:49:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> me
20:49:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf
20:49:29  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Oh, sorry Hirundofor blaming you ;-)
20:49:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 1417 crates transported last quarter!
20:50:25  <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1
20:51:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh
20:51:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's interesting
20:52:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> deliveries of supplies have collapsed
20:52:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so production of inputs for supplies collapses :o
20:52:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's fun
20:52:23  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we had a jam on the main line
20:52:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so now we have a few months latency in production
20:52:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> just like real life :P
20:52:59  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> There is still a jam at the exit of ENSP pickup
20:53:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> If we had another year left to play I would have built a lot of ships for metal
20:53:24  <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (general timeout)
20:53:24  <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (connection lost)
20:54:22  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 2 months left
20:54:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> la la la :)
20:56:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frickety frick :P
20:56:18  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> at least we manager 4/4 now
20:56:25  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 1k short
20:56:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have too much piled up at tondham airport
20:57:44  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'm quitting, good luck finishing & goodnight
20:57:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bye
20:57:50  <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (leaving)
20:59:45  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yay
20:59:51  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 1 quarter late :)
20:59:54  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> ciao ;)
21:00:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bye
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21:00:06  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it's a bit lucky from time to time
21:00:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I made about 3 mistakes
21:00:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> if I hadn' :P
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21:01:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> q
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21:01:16  <andythenorth> bed time
21:01:19  <andythenorth> bye all :)
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