Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 9th October 2010:
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01:03:12  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello
01:03:18  <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has started a new company (#1)
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01:03:34  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =P
01:04:44  <davis> !date
01:04:44  <Stablean> davis: 24 Apr 1939
01:04:48  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Anyonet here? (IRC)
01:04:54  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *there @.@
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01:05:50  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello davis.
01:05:56  <Stablean> <davis> hi
01:06:03  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mks and stuffs been here recently?
01:06:14  <Stablean> <davis> don't think so
01:06:17  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Aw
01:06:19  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :[
01:06:25  <Stablean> <davis> then again i didn't pay that much attention the past few days
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01:06:42  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda thought of cooping with him sometime.
01:06:51  <Stablean> <davis> cooping is fun
01:07:42  <Stablean> <davis> though this map is fairly flat
01:07:46  <Stablean> <davis> still not a bad one
01:07:58  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I wouldn't really call it flat.
01:07:58  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
01:08:04  <Stablean> <davis> it is flat haha
01:08:11  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Especially north of Tonfingpool
01:08:20  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I haven't seen much higher ridges so far. XD
01:08:26  <Stablean> <davis> haha
01:08:36  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Actually, I am not sure whether the engine is actually capable of anything much higher. I have not tried it yet.
01:08:36  <Stablean> <davis> SP games i usualy play are very very hilly.
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02:05:05  <Sylf> hm?
02:05:09  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D
02:05:14  <Nussi> Let's coop. =D
02:05:33  <Nussi> I'd like to build a coop with you and Mks (if he ever shows up, that is. :x)
02:05:54  <Sylf> wooo
02:06:02  <Sylf> you want to team up with me?
02:06:03  <Sylf> cool
02:06:19  <Nussi> But I kinda intend to do mainly some metro stuff and things.
02:06:20  <Sylf> so, you've seen me play?
02:06:29  <Nussi> Not much, actually.
02:06:35  <Sylf> oh
02:06:44  <Nussi> I am rather worried you'd dislike the stuff I build than anything else. x:
02:06:46  <Sylf> I'm a cargo player
02:06:52  <Sylf> for the most part
02:07:03  <Nussi> Well, would you mind playing together with someone that did pax stuff, too?
02:07:06  <Sylf> If you want to do pax, and me cargo, we can do that too
02:07:11  <Nussi> Sure
02:07:36  <Nussi> We don't have to lay every track in sync or something.
02:07:37  <Nussi> XD
02:07:57  <Sylf> right :D
02:08:26  <Nussi> It's rather, let's just do it as loose or as tight as we want.
02:08:26  <Sylf> Do you have a company going?
02:08:36  <Nussi> We'll play in the same company and be able to design together as much or as little as we like.
02:08:36  <Nussi> Not yet
02:08:51  <Sylf> why dontcha start one
02:08:55  <Nussi> But, even if we design together little, we'd be able to do design along each other way more than if we had different companies.
02:08:58  <Nussi> I will.
02:09:18  <Nussi> lol, Nussi
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02:09:25  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sorry
02:09:35  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You didn't even know it's me.
02:09:35  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
02:09:42  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I've just realized the name on IRC.. :x
02:09:54  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, I already have one, right
02:10:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> wait... what?
02:10:34  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> What do you mean?
02:10:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> Aziroshin, you want to build a company with us too?
02:10:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> 3-man team?
02:10:55  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sure, why not
02:10:57  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Its me, Nussi
02:11:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> oooooh
02:11:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> :p
02:11:05  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I accidently had a different name.
02:11:05  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
02:11:17  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But, yes, three. I'll try to hook Mks in
02:11:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's the part I didn't catch XD
02:11:26  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Given he'll ever pay a visit
02:11:27  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD
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02:11:59  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Way to go for a company name.
02:12:01  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
02:12:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehehe
02:12:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> North and south part of the map is already getting busy...
02:12:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> so I'll start in the middle
02:12:49  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay
02:12:55  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I'll jump in wherever you start.
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02:13:03  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> To get some money line going.
02:13:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> and nobody's doing pax yet
02:13:17  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, pax isn't done a lot
02:13:22  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Let's start with some cargo
02:13:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> I've never done moneymaker stage with Welcome server
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02:13:38  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Starting with two distinct project is going to hurt our starting stuff. XD
02:13:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> with 1 million euros, we can build a good size network from the start
02:14:31  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> What do you have in mind?
02:14:33  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Iron Ore? Coal, Farms?
02:15:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think, in the end, I want more oil out of oil rigs
02:15:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> when we're rich enough to be building stuff in the water
02:15:25  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay.
02:15:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> Oh, we have temperate oild wells grf loaded too
02:19:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm adding signs everywhere
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02:52:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> :/
03:04:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> Oh jeez
03:16:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> so...
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03:25:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> Just a random combination of our nicks
03:37:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> Nope, I'm totally not
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03:41:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> true
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04:05:24  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD
04:06:18  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD
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04:13:51  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See ya.
04:13:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> cya around
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04:42:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi all
04:43:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
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04:54:38  <Stablean> <Absolutis> -.-
04:54:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD
04:57:11  <Stablean> <Absolutis> aww, no heqs.
04:57:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> I haven't seen heqs used on this server in a while
04:59:47  <Stablean> <Absolutis> craƄ.
04:59:49  <Stablean> <Absolutis> crap*
05:01:36  <Stablean> <Absolutis> too hilly :(
05:01:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> this is very hilly
05:05:17  <Stablean> <Absolutis> costmods :(
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07:11:06  <Stablean> <V453000> hi :)
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07:12:26  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
07:12:36  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> gm
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09:30:03  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi speedy
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09:31:06  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi guys
09:31:16  <Stablean> <Speedy> hi DD
09:32:33  <Stablean> <Speedy> nice to see some more buses again
09:32:59  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> :)
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12:47:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sylf, can i join you too?
12:47:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> Yeah
12:47:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> you gonna leave your network?
12:47:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, bankrupt it
12:48:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> k
12:48:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> first tell me what pw is
12:49:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats silly :P
12:49:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehe
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12:50:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, the basic plan is...
12:50:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> The next thing should be getting goods from the factory to the bottom corner of the map
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12:51:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> After that, just expand in general
12:51:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
12:51:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> Start oil rigs and wood too somewhere
12:51:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> I just joined to fix the train groupings
12:51:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> I can't stay too long right now
12:53:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> are we using one fixed tl?
12:53:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, 3 for all primaries
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12:53:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> for goods...  undecided
12:53:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea, but the goods?
12:53:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> personally, im a fan of long tl
12:54:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's so hilly, so maybe 3 for goods too
12:54:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and to dranford/wenfinway on sea?
12:54:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup, that area
12:54:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> seperate rails? or partially joined?
12:55:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm
12:55:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> if we build it separate, we can upgrade it to maglev later
12:55:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> since we're using ukrs
12:56:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not very familiar with all the railsets
12:56:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> Let's build it separate
12:56:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why are we using semaphores?
12:57:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> Just for kicks
12:59:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill get on it when ive bought my old company
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12:59:50  <davis> !date
12:59:50  <Stablean> davis: 27 Jul 1977
13:02:06  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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13:02:11  <Stablean> <V453000> how is the game? :)
13:02:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
13:02:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> difficult, but good =)
13:02:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> quite well so far
13:02:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very hilly
13:02:53  <Stablean> <V453000> it is one of the hilliest settings after all :p
13:03:18  <Stablean> <V453000> hills be fun
13:03:30  <Fixed> no fun
13:03:35  <davis> hills are fun
13:03:36  <Fixed> slopes with 0% :/
13:03:41  <Fixed> 0% !!!
13:03:48  <davis> even more so if there's slope penality involved
13:03:48  <V453000> so what
13:03:57  <V453000> wel
13:04:07  <Fixed> trains ain't slowdown :(
13:04:10  <V453000> even with 3% you usually have strong enough trains that dont slow down
13:04:24  <davis> 3% is pretty bad actually
13:04:27  <davis> at least in the early years
13:04:40  <davis> tried that with dbset once and it was quite a bitch to climb mountains
13:04:50  <Fixed> more challenges
13:04:57  <Fixed> :p
13:05:00  <V453000> with some freight multiplier I suppose
13:05:15  <V453000> otherwise 3% is standard
13:05:27  <davis> maybe i had acceleration on default or something
13:05:29  <davis> shrugs
13:05:43  <V453000> umm
13:05:46  <V453000> lol
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13:25:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> sweet
13:25:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> the goods line looks done
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13:39:13  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello.
13:39:25  <Stablean> <DontMindMe> Hello
13:45:10  <Stablean> <Fixer> hello
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13:53:09  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD
13:53:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not working
13:53:18  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> spill
13:53:23  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :<
13:53:26  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xDD booze
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13:56:23  <Stablean> <davis> sup
13:56:29  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> hellow
13:56:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not much
13:56:44  <Stablean> <davis> mind if I join , i'm basicly amazing. Troy can prove that
13:56:46  <Stablean> <davis> to a degree.
13:57:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, to a degree
13:57:07  <Stablean> <davis> hahaha
13:57:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i dont mind, dont know if aziro does
13:57:25  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I don't mind
13:57:27  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
13:57:29  <Stablean> <davis> kk
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13:57:52  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, my criterion has never been how good anyone builds - just the quality of one's ambition and ocourse whether the person is nice and stuff.
13:58:50  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> With ambition, I mean like, if someone builds stations that "station spread" transportables in from over there with satellite stations purely built for that purpose, it's not really something I'd like to see.
13:59:17  <Stablean> <davis> ah
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14:00:51  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, there are some that simply build head to head lines, with no signals or junctions
14:00:57  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That's also something that I don't find that awesome. XD
14:01:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats just lazyness
14:01:35  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> At least it's different from purposeful station spread use.
14:02:18  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Like, someone building that way could always be instructed to build a little more complex.
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14:02:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> head to head, or station spreading?
14:02:56  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Head to head builders, I mean.
14:03:28  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, I mean deliberate head to head builders. If someone builds a single track line, thats absolutely fine - it might just be enough for t hat purpose.  I am talking about stations with multiple platforms in head-to-head setups.
14:03:49  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sure, there are cases where even that makes sense.
14:03:57  <Fixed> Sylf: i'm probably found camera location -> Hokkaido island -> farm near Iwamizawa or Kyoritsu
14:03:59  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But I guess you know which cases I am talking about.. XD
14:04:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea
14:04:34  <Sylf> shocking
14:04:47  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> (If youre building a metro, for instance, such a setup could make complete sense for certain lines. But some build it for their entire network, and that's what I mean)
14:05:03  <Sylf> but the part about either northern or southern end of the country was right :p
14:05:33  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's something completely different then. XD
14:05:46  <Fixed> Sylf: i can give you a link, here -> (japan to english translation is not super)
14:05:53  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I'm really talking about those that simply plop down platforms, draw a line, put a train on it and be done.
14:06:18  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And that for their entire network, no matter how many platforms on a station or whatever.
14:07:53  <V453000> Aziroshin: these are extremes
14:07:55  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda see it often on networks "out there".
14:08:01  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> V: Yes, absolutely.
14:08:11  <V453000> :)
14:08:13  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I purposefully mentioned extremes, as these extremes would be what I kinda would dislike.
14:08:22  <V453000> but yes, "out there" it isnt that extreme :p
14:08:33  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Out there it seems to be pretty standard.
14:08:50  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Station with 3 or more platforms, every platform serving a single line.
14:09:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what are  out there stations?
14:09:06  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That's whatI am talking about.
14:09:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
14:09:16  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Uhm, I mean, out there on many of the servers.
14:09:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah
14:10:14  <Stablean> <Fixer> hmm.. that stolen trees is not that bad
14:10:18  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And, as said, such stations can be okay in certain situations. But, well, talking about situations where it is clearly not so great. XD
14:10:35  <Stablean> <Fixer> can you point on such stations?
14:11:17  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, I like to build metros. I've run into situations where in the crowded area of a town, smaller headto head lines connecting to a larger metro station make sense.
14:43:05  <Fixed> japan train ->
14:48:23  <davis> i like those
14:48:29  <davis> they look dirty but somehow still nice
14:50:22  <Fixed> davis: <<< rofl
14:50:41  <davis> looks like a toy
14:50:49  <Fixed> yes :D
14:50:55  <davis> but idk , i think it's one awesome train , even though its weirdly shaped
14:50:59  <Fixed> and this >
14:51:18  <davis> haha
14:51:28  <davis> they sure look different
14:52:10  <Fixed> awesome view ->
14:52:28  <davis> indeed
14:53:12  <Fixed> omg >
14:53:38  <Fixed> inside
14:53:38  <davis> are those pictures from japan?
14:53:43  <Fixed> yes
14:53:50  <davis> would love to go there at some point
14:53:57  <davis> being 6"4 i'd stick out quite a bit though
14:56:42  <Sylf> Fixed:
14:57:08  <davis> looks like something you'd put against some medival city door.
14:57:14  <Fixed> O_O
14:57:23  <Fixed> Sylf: lol
14:58:08  <Fixed>
14:58:28  <davis> themepark much?
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14:58:59  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello
14:59:07  <Stablean> <hedi Leclert> drinks
14:59:11  <Fixed> that even more stranger
14:59:15  <Stablean> <hedi Leclert> hello
14:59:20  <Stablean> <davis> I believe the drinks thing was a joke
14:59:36  <Stablean> <hedi Leclert> yeah
14:59:40  <davis> Fixed i actually think that one looks awesome
14:59:57  <davis> might be the snow and all , but that's a realy pretty picture
15:00:13  <Fixed> but what that yellow thing :p
15:00:46  <davis> xmas decorations I assume
15:00:52  <Fixed> lol
15:00:57  <davis> looking at the electric stuff above the rails
15:00:59  <Fixed> they celebrate xmas?
15:01:29  <davis> it's probably some kind of museum train
15:01:48  <davis> I believe they do
15:01:56  <Fixed> me too
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15:02:23  <davis>
15:02:24  <Webster> Title: Christmas in Japan (at
15:03:02  <Stablean> <hedi Leclert> why the  prizes of aeronef are so high
15:03:18  <Stablean> <davis> they are not ment to be used
15:03:29  <Stablean> <davis> same goes for ships
15:04:02  <V453000> they are meant to be used, but aircraft for eyecandy purposes only, not for moneymaking ... and ships as bankrupcy maker :)
15:04:35  <Fixed> yay!
15:04:48  <Fixed> love that winter times... missing them so much
15:05:03  <davis> thats the positive thing about winter
15:05:04  <V453000> and you hate arctic :)
15:05:16  <davis> but idk , wintertime is also quite f*cked at some points
15:05:41  <Fixed> V453000: no i don't hate it anymore... i relooked at it again... and that's just big brightness of snow part
15:05:53  <V453000> lol :)
15:16:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
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15:41:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's not that much better
15:41:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> more power, so better acceleration, but that's about it
15:42:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> 10% speed increase isn't much for now
15:42:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> We still will need the double line
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15:51:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's a good engine!
15:53:55  <V453000> !date
15:53:56  <Stablean> V453000: 27 Jun 1989
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16:14:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> see ya
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16:21:17  <Stablean> <Speedy> damnit
16:21:23  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ? o.o
16:21:42  <Stablean> <Speedy> keeps disconnecting
16:21:52  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Aw :s
16:21:57  <Fixed> lol
16:22:17  <Stablean> <Speedy> well, not my prob
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16:32:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> I got oil operation going now
16:33:03  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D
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17:01:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
17:02:49  <Stablean> <davis> heh speedy , your farms production increased by 100%
17:03:07  <Stablean> <davis> now it's producing 18 tonnes of grain and 19 tonnes of livestock
17:03:13  <Stablean> <Speedy> farms ?-o
17:03:27  <Stablean> <davis> Slonfingley east
17:03:45  <Stablean> <Speedy> oh :)
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17:09:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, did I forget something?
17:15:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> that should be good for the refinery
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19:58:14  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hellaw
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21:19:09  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
21:19:18  <Fixed> hello
21:21:46  <Stablean> <V453000> Drivebyhobo: could you please start using signals for trains? this amount of rails takes a lot of space and annoys other players
21:22:09  <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> ?
21:22:50  <Stablean> <V453000> for your superior maglev line
21:23:10  <Stablean> <V453000> it is either too large or planned to be unsignalled :)
21:23:32  <Stablean> <V453000> btw growing the town near Red players largest station isnt very nice
21:24:19  <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> it wasnt really a massive station when i grew the town
21:24:34  <Stablean> <V453000> it was clear from the start
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21:28:22  <V453000> gnight
21:28:26  <Stablean> <Fixer> gn
21:29:34  <Ammler> one line per train?
21:29:45  <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> no im not doing that
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21:37:27  <Stablean> <davis> why are you doing such heavy landscaping , there is no need to , climbs do not slow trains down in this game
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21:38:11  <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> they don't?
21:38:13  <Stablean> <davis> they don't
21:38:28  <Stablean> <davis> i mean checkout our network ( orange )
21:38:35  <Stablean> <davis> not one single slowdown because of climbing
21:39:38  <Fixed> Drivebyhobo... there's 0% slopes :))
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