Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 12th December 2010:
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12:08:31  <V453000> Ammler: will the server be able to load our GRF pack files?
12:10:36  <Ammler> yes, it should
12:10:43  <Ammler> grfpack 7.3 is there
12:10:58  <Ammler> which is upwards compatible to v8
12:10:59  <V453000> great, thx
12:13:10  <Ammler> !content
12:13:11  <Stablean> Ammler: Connection established
12:13:14  <V453000> best way to see is give it a try, right :p
12:13:14  <Stablean> Ammler: Downloading 2 file(s) (436266 bytes)
12:13:14  <Stablean> Ammler: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:13:34  <Ammler> indeed, else ping :-)
12:13:53  <V453000> !getsave
12:13:53  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
12:13:56  <V453000> lets try
12:13:58  <V453000> !restart
12:13:58  <Stablean> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
12:14:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
12:14:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.0.5.
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12:14:09  <V453000> :D quick
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12:14:25  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server ('
12:14:25  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
12:14:29  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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12:15:06  <V453000> awww yea :) works
12:16:01  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies
12:16:01  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'max_companies' is: '15' (min: 1, max: 15)
12:16:03  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies 1
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12:16:23  <Ammler> !info
12:16:23  <Stablean> Ammler:
12:16:55  <V453000> @topic add password to company is "heqs"
12:16:55  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome server. OpenTTD 1.0.5 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read | password to company is heqs"
12:17:06  <V453000> testing heqs with some nice newgrfs :p
12:18:02  <Ammler> does andy join?
12:18:10  <V453000> havent asked him
12:19:50  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 10
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12:23:33  <Ammler> !auto ?
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12:23:53  <V453000> not yet needed
12:24:00  <V453000> I am eating lunch
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12:24:22  <V453000> and thinking about network plan :)
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13:24:48  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
13:24:54  <Stablean> <V453000> want to join?
13:24:56  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Hu
13:24:59  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> yo
13:25:06  <Stablean> <V453000> we are testing heqs
13:25:12  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> kk
13:25:14  <Stablean> <V453000> pw for company is heqs then :p
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13:26:35  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> oh didn't realised
13:27:23  <Stablean> <V453000> the main plan is to test all vehicles
13:27:33  <Stablean> <V453000> some connections can be trams,  but only very simple
13:27:35  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> whats next?
13:27:41  <Stablean> <V453000> because trams are quite incontrollable
13:28:17  <Stablean> <V453000> steel mill needs trams
13:28:27  <Stablean> <V453000> from the two iron ore mines on that island
13:28:30  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> in husavik?
13:28:41  <Stablean> <V453000> I planted sign, it is Vogar
13:28:47  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> kk
13:30:57  <Stablean> <V453000> oh, and please make tram networks separate if possible
13:31:11  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> that was my plan ;)
13:31:14  <Stablean> <V453000> kk :))
13:32:17  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Have there ever been the ability to build one way tramways?
13:32:25  <Stablean> <V453000> unfortunately not
13:35:19  <Stablean> <V453000> ooh, coastline :))
13:36:33  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> The Iron Ore should have a nice last journey to hell
13:36:39  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
13:41:59  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> how can I combine multiple trams?
13:42:05  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
13:42:07  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> ctrl doesnt work
13:42:21  <Stablean> <V453000> just refit them ?
13:42:32  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> aah
13:42:34  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> :D
13:42:37  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
13:45:03  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> And the steel, o which facory should it be brought?
13:45:09  <Stablean> <V453000> no factory yet
13:45:15  <Stablean> <V453000> we will have to fund some
13:45:23  <Stablean> <V453000> there is only one and that is quite bad
13:45:26  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> heres one
13:45:33  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> yeah
13:45:36  <Stablean> <V453000> yea
13:45:46  <Stablean> <V453000> btw please use "unload and leave empty"
13:46:01  <Stablean> <V453000> and make the trams into various lengths so we test everything :p
13:46:08  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> oki
13:49:10  <Stablean> <V453000> new tramz :o
13:49:36  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> oh yeah nice
13:51:18  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Why are here wocoal drops?
13:51:41  <Stablean> <V453000> trams and RVs separate?
13:52:08  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> sorry have o change my keyboard
13:52:22  <Stablean> <V453000> can understand :)
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14:01:13  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> My "T" didn't work
14:01:19  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
14:08:05  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Sorry, I am called to meal :)
14:08:11  <Stablean> <V453000> laters :)
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14:10:27  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
14:10:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> ello
14:11:25  <Stablean> <V453000> pw is "heqs" if you care to join :p
14:11:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup, I saw earlier
14:11:47  <Stablean> <V453000> k
14:11:54  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> he's in company yet ;)
14:11:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> studying the map first
14:11:59  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :D
14:12:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm sneaky like that
14:12:44  <Stablean> <V453000> how do you like the roadset :p
14:13:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's different... it's going to test my patience
14:13:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
14:13:20  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> I really don't like the its annoying ;)
14:13:22  <Stablean> <V453000> we can switch to the modern roads later on
14:13:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> actually, I like the roads
14:14:06  <Stablean> <V453000> the 1ways suck
14:14:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, DB XL for the train set :D
14:15:31  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> what ennerves me is that the the stations have thos ugly intown roads
14:15:41  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> those "normal" routes are okay
14:15:51  <Stablean> <V453000> the dark brown ones?
14:17:23  <Stablean> <V453000> forests need connecting
14:18:57  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> yo the darkbrown ones
14:19:44  <Stablean> <Timmaexx_AFK> Bye guys
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14:19:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> seeya
14:54:53  <Stablean> <V453000> farms ready to go
14:55:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> just need the money to fund the factory
14:55:35  <Stablean> <V453000> said anything? .p
14:55:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD
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15:07:39  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
15:07:42  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> he
15:07:44  <Stablean> <V453000> pw is heqs
15:07:46  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> ty
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15:08:38  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> any plan or something like that?
15:08:50  <Stablean> <V453000> most of the things are connected now
15:09:00  <Stablean> <V453000> so the "plan" is obvious already :)
15:09:15  <Stablean> <V453000> just try to test as many vehicle types as possible and have fun in the process
15:09:25  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> :)
15:09:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm keeping myself busy grouping vehicles
15:10:09  <Stablean> <V453000> we dont need that imo
15:10:11  <Stablean> <V453000> but well
15:10:14  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt hurt either
15:10:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> I like it
15:13:34  <Stablean> <V453000> when we start to hate the roads already, we will switch to modern era of these, just say :)
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15:14:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> one way signs on every tile? :-(
15:14:48  <Stablean> <V453000> we ever used otherwise?
15:14:58  <Stablean> <Amm1er> it is so ugl
15:15:00  <Stablean> <Amm1er> y
15:15:15  <Stablean> <V453000> for the sake of system it is good :)
15:15:57  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, do you collect somewhere bugs/glitches?
15:16:15  <Stablean> <V453000> havent found yet
15:16:18  <Stablean> <V453000> only the tram tracks
15:16:37  <Stablean> <Amm1er> No. 6 tracks waggons "jump" on curves
15:16:47  <Stablean> <Amm1er> -c
15:16:58  <Stablean> <V453000> sign it on the welcome board :)
15:17:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> do you agree?
15:17:23  <Stablean> <Amm1er> maybe it isn't better makeable
15:17:27  <Stablean> <V453000> yea, they dont fit there
15:17:53  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I meant, do you also think, they shouldn't "jump" that much?
15:17:59  <Stablean> <V453000> quite
15:18:22  <Stablean> <Amm1er> specially the north->east curve
15:18:33  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly
15:23:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, good idea with trams using the other line
15:23:45  <Stablean> <V453000> :p
15:24:15  <Stablean> <Amm1er> V453000: is that a generic issue (jumping on north-east)
15:24:29  <Stablean> <V453000> dont know
15:24:55  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you see, how bad it is with signs on every tile :-)
15:25:02  <Stablean> <Amm1er> makes rebuilding a pain
15:25:08  <Stablean> <V453000> is ok
15:25:34  <Stablean> <V453000> there must not be vehicles either way :)
15:34:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> does placint those ugly oneway signs work automatically or did you click on every tile?
15:34:59  <Stablean> <V453000> dragging
15:35:18  <Stablean> <Amm1er> then it is a bug of openttd :-)
15:35:24  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
15:35:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that you are able to drag place those
15:35:48  <Stablean> <V453000> why bug?
15:36:07  <Stablean> <Amm1er> because it doesn't make sense
15:36:17  <Stablean> <V453000> ok :D it still is useful
15:36:27  <Stablean> <Amm1er> and it makes it quite hard to connect from another company
15:36:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> maybe that is the idea behind
15:36:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> one man's bug is another man's feature :D
15:37:20  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont really like when more companies use one roads ... makes usually mess, then one company bankrupts, and some tunnels or bridges are removed I think ... mess
15:37:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> roads don't go, do they?
15:37:49  <Stablean> <V453000> no, roads dont
15:37:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> but?
15:38:09  <Stablean> <V453000> but stations bridges and tunnels do I think
15:38:25  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh,, that is indeed bad, if true
15:38:28  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies 2
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15:38:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> Actually, I had roads go on me once, I think.
15:38:34  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#2)
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15:39:10  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 2
15:39:10  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
15:39:17  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
15:39:21  <Stablean> <V453000> see "will it die?" sign
15:39:35  <Stablean> <V453000> it did
15:39:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm
15:39:54  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies 1
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15:41:46  <V453000> !getsave
15:41:55  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
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15:42:26  <V453000> !auto
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15:42:30  <Stablean> <V453000> less ugly :p
15:43:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> doesn't make oneway signs nicer :-P
15:43:30  <Stablean> <V453000> it does
15:43:50  <Stablean> <Amm1er> now we play colonization with all those indianders
15:43:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> -d
15:44:23  <Stablean> <Amm1er> why I am spec now?
15:44:29  <Stablean> <V453000> do I know? :D
15:44:45  <Stablean> <Amm1er> is that usual behavior after reload?
15:44:56  <Stablean> <V453000> for sure
15:45:06  <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, didn't know :-)
15:45:08  <Stablean> <V453000> since there was "some" game loaded
15:45:22  <Stablean> <V453000> it cant know it is the same one I guess :)
15:45:36  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yeah, same reason, why passwords aren't saved
15:45:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you should btw. set company pw
15:45:46  <Stablean> <Amm1er> not server pw
15:45:53  <Stablean> <V453000> there is
15:46:19  <Stablean> <Amm1er> ah
15:46:26  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I connected the comp directly
15:47:12  <Stablean> <Amm1er> also very nice is that rvs do overtake also in curves
15:47:18  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
15:47:28  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that isn't old feature, is it?
15:47:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> but they don't overtake on bridges
15:47:45  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont know
15:47:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> but they "do" in tunnels :-)
15:48:10  <Stablean> <V453000> really?
15:48:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> hard to tell ^_^
15:48:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> nope.
15:48:29  <Stablean> <Amm1er> they drive just through each other
15:48:47  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is why they can't overtake on bridges, I assume
15:49:49  <Stablean> <V453000> made a few tunnels, lets see
15:49:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hehe
15:52:23  <Stablean> <V453000> one just didnt
15:52:33  <Stablean> <V453000> I also think they dont, but ... :)
15:52:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> when they take over, they don't crash with the oncoming trams - it's a scary sight at first
15:58:45  <Stablean> <V453000> Ammler: they quite refuse to take over in tunnels
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16:01:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> V453000: sign?
16:01:39  <Stablean> <Amm1er> then that is "fixed" maybe
16:02:41  <Stablean> <V453000> it happens !here quite often
16:02:47  <Stablean> <V453000> I sent some busses to see it better
16:04:21  <Stablean> <V453000> it starts the overtaking in front of the tunnel but then cancelst it
16:04:27  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm, sometims it works
16:04:30  <Stablean> <V453000> odd
16:07:53  <Stablean> <V453000> all goods to Vogar?
16:08:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> okay
16:08:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> do we have other trams?
16:08:52  <Stablean> <V453000> like other than these 3 ?
16:09:02  <Stablean> <Amm1er> like from other set
16:09:05  <Stablean> <V453000> UK trams
16:09:07  <Stablean> <Amm1er> wondering about the poles
16:09:07  <Stablean> <V453000> the pax ones
16:09:27  <Stablean> <V453000> oh
16:09:29  <Stablean> <Amm1er> same there
16:09:31  <Stablean> <V453000> they screw up there too
16:09:46  <Stablean> <V453000> Vogar transfer has the drop now
16:10:09  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what tram track set is in use?
16:10:16  <Stablean> <V453000> light tram tracks
16:10:34  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, need to load locally :-)
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16:11:13  <Stablean> <V453000> the original ones are kinda buggy too
16:12:45  <Ammler> but this doesn't happen there
16:12:55  <Stablean> <V453000> something similar
16:13:05  <Stablean> <V453000> and I think it is the same since those are just larger
16:14:35  <Stablean> <V453000> well the opengfx ones are different so it cant even happen ther
16:15:48  <Stablean> <V453000> but it does pretty much the same with TTD graphics
16:18:25  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 5000
16:18:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD 5000
16:31:43  <Stablean> <V453000> is it just me or is the date moving as slowly as the god damn cars? :D
16:31:49  <Stablean> <V453000> only 1966
16:31:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehe, I know
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16:33:09  <V453000> laters
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18:09:02  <planetmaker> !info
18:09:02  <Stablean> planetmaker:
18:12:26  <Ammler> !svn
18:12:34  <Ammler> :-)
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18:29:08  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> woot?!
18:29:31  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> interesting game
18:30:20  <V453000> :)
18:30:52  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm, what's the PW?
18:30:59  <V453000> heqs
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18:31:10  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> thanks
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18:32:58  <Stablean> <V453000> hi :)
18:33:04  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ho :-)
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18:42:24  <Stablean> <V453000> but tbh, heqs is quiite boring
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19:40:33  <planetmaker> just press enter
19:40:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hi
19:40:47  <Stablean> <Amm1er> Sali andy :-)
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19:41:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> bulldozers everywhere
19:41:04  <Stablean> <Amm1er> first time on a server?
19:41:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> yup
19:41:11  <V453000> password to company is "heqs" if you wanted to join :p
19:41:20  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ho
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19:43:14  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the overtaking is fun
19:43:30  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is like I drive on the highway, if there is jam
19:43:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should have waited until HEQS running costs were fixed :)
19:43:40  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-)
19:43:50  <Stablean> <andythenorth> that would change profit quite a lot
19:43:54  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> andythenorth: company-pw is heqs
19:44:33  <Stablean> <andythenorth> so most stuff is shipping with bulldozers?
19:44:43  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... _slight_ jam at Garðabærwoods
19:45:15  <Stablean> <andythenorth> at least you don't need fast bridges for bulldozers...
19:45:29  <Stablean> <V453000> no but it is quite boring to play with so slow vehicles :(
19:45:32  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm, somehow the vehicles move like in slow-motion compared to other games ;-)
19:45:42  <Stablean> <andythenorth> what happens if you try and ship *everything* with gmund mogs?
19:46:00  <Stablean> <V453000> you are screwed up? :D because they flood the roads
19:46:11  <Stablean> <andythenorth> they'd be like quantum packets :P
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19:47:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the logging trucks aren't available yet?
19:47:22  <Stablean> <V453000> seems like not yet
19:47:28  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should be soon
19:47:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ha there you go
19:47:51  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> seems it just becomes available :-)
19:47:57  <Stablean> <andythenorth> timing is everything
19:48:03  <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-)
19:48:06  <Stablean> <andythenorth> get rid of all those bulldozers :)
19:48:16  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> did anyone accept the offer for early testing?
19:48:18  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the logging trucks kill them for hauling wood
19:48:40  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I clicked yes
19:49:02  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> well. now I did, too
19:49:09  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
19:49:30  <Stablean> <Amm1er> for those slow trucks
19:50:01  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the make-vehicels-visible-in-tunnels.diff helps
19:50:08  <Stablean> <andythenorth> also you just got a new tractor
19:50:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> enjoy it while you can, I'm removing it in HEQS 2
19:50:34  <Stablean> <Amm1er> it?
19:50:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> fourtrac
19:50:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> just became available
19:50:49  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> he
19:50:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what is bad about?
19:51:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ammler - graphics are wrong
19:51:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I can't be bothered to fix them for that vehicle
19:51:33  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the / \ views are way too long
19:51:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the 'much faster' steel carrier just became available too
19:51:59  <Stablean> <andythenorth> :p
19:52:52  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the logging trucks won't overtake
19:53:02  <Stablean> <andythenorth> so it's worth removing all the bulldozers on their route
19:53:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> andy, check the no. 6 if it goes from north->easy
19:53:10  <Stablean> <Amm1er> east*
19:53:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> unless you like the look of the bulldozers
19:53:39  <Stablean> <Amm1er> e.g. #227
19:53:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> at !jump
19:54:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it is a bit weird
19:54:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I guess, it is just no. 6
19:55:03  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it's the only one using those trailer sprites
19:55:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> sprite or offset error
19:55:48  <Stablean> <andythenorth> did I mention there's another logging trucl :D
19:55:50  <Stablean> <Amm1er> many new vehicls recently
19:56:00  <Stablean> <andythenorth> exciting times the 1970s
19:56:24  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I thought maybe I'd let you replace all the bulldozers with the smaller logging truck first
19:56:28  <Stablean> <andythenorth> then the big one would arrive
19:56:34  <Stablean> * andythenorth is slightly evil
19:56:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-)
19:56:47  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> go for it, if you like andythenorth;-)
19:56:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> big one is serious capacity, but not so fast
19:58:41  <Stablean> <Amm1er> no. 8 looks a bit silly in the curve
19:58:55  <Stablean> <Amm1er> waggons seems much bigger
19:59:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> not many really big trams running?
19:59:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> it might be correct from perspective
19:59:54  <Stablean> <andythenorth> is the big tram too easy :P
19:59:56  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
20:00:06  <Stablean> <V453000> tbh I hate how long the vehicles are :(
20:00:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> he
20:00:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I like the snake effect
20:00:44  <Stablean> <V453000> well, that is nice, but imo works badly
20:00:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it blocks stations a lot
20:00:58  <Stablean> <V453000> as in stations,there it is especially the different lengths
20:01:04  <Stablean> <V453000> also in overtaking
20:01:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> for the trams, or all the long vehicles?
20:01:29  <Stablean> <V453000> I would just stay with the "standard" length or 2* that
20:01:32  <Stablean> <V453000> all
20:01:40  <Stablean> <V453000> but well, that is HEQS ... :(
20:01:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the bulldozers are really quite stupid
20:02:02  <Stablean> <andythenorth> they were a fun idea with almost no gameplay benefit
20:02:10  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly
20:02:25  <Stablean> <V453000> it looks nice, but for gameplay it is quite bad
20:02:35  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the big industrial tram is quite a gameplay winner most of the time
20:02:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> capacity of a train, but no need for signals etc
20:03:05  <planetmaker> Oh, the bulldozers are fine for the very short trip to a transfer station between to quite near industries
20:03:25  <Stablean> <andythenorth> that's not how this game is using them :D
20:03:37  <Stablean> <V453000> quite
20:03:51  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, is there a road stop grf in use?
20:03:53  <Stablean> <V453000> they indeed are a set that is made to support trains and such
20:03:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I mostly run to the coast and dump into ships
20:04:05  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ships have infinitely scalable capacity :D
20:04:11  <Stablean> <V453000> yea, ships suck :(
20:04:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> ships should be able to crash
20:04:39  <planetmaker> well. This game is _one_ way to use vehicles. But no single game is the _definitive_ guide for everything
20:04:51  <Stablean> <V453000> for sure
20:04:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the only route optimisation needed for ships is whether your cpu can run the pathfinder :P
20:05:11  <Stablean> <V453000> this game is just to test as many vehicles from HEQS as possible :) and when you let people use trains, they will not use RVs
20:05:29  <Stablean> <V453000> HEQS would be indeed better for short feeder systems
20:05:39  <Stablean> <andythenorth> that was the intended use
20:06:01  <Stablean> <Amm1er> s/was/is/
20:06:09  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it gets awesome station ratings without much real estate needed
20:06:19  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
20:06:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should be a new dump truck sometime soon
20:06:43  <Stablean> <andythenorth> faster, bigger
20:06:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the usual stuff...
20:07:25  <Stablean> <andythenorth> where are all the vehicles for garbabaer woods stuck?
20:07:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh
20:08:05  <Stablean> <Amm1er> they drive empty?
20:08:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is cool and makes sense for vehicle supplies :-)
20:08:57  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, no
20:09:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> do they have those loaded over teh driver cabine?
20:10:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the log trucks load the trailer when running empty
20:10:21  <Stablean> <andythenorth> or the sprites look that way anyway :)
20:10:23  <Stablean> <Amm1er> awesome
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20:10:40  <Stablean> <V453000> it s visible, Ammler is only too old to see it :p
20:10:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> there's an invisible trailer :)
20:11:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I didn't see it on first spot, indeed :-P
20:11:22  <Stablean> * andythenorth replaces some more bulldozers :P
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20:11:41  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
20:12:07  <Stablean> <andythenorth> there's *nothing* good for hauling oil in HEQS rvs
20:12:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> only the trams
20:12:16  <Stablean> <V453000> xD
20:12:18  <Stablean> <V453000> oh crap
20:12:20  <Stablean> <andythenorth> same for goods etc
20:13:09  <Stablean> <andythenorth> yay
20:13:21  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the steel hauler looks so fast when everything else is so slow
20:13:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> rv 211
20:13:29  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
20:13:51  <Stablean> <V453000> 35 kmh
20:14:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> production is quite low everywhere
20:15:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I'm too used to FIRS
20:15:12  <Stablean> <andythenorth> FIRS = constant route upgrades needed if you deliver supplies
20:15:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> massive jam near bildudalar gr
20:16:05  <Stablean> <andythenorth> getting epicly worse :)
20:16:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> nice
20:16:31  <Stablean> <andythenorth> replace the bulldozers there with tractors?
20:16:34  <Stablean> <andythenorth> lower cap, faster speed
20:16:39  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should balance
20:16:53  <Stablean> <V453000> I want eGRVTS :D
20:17:00  <Stablean> <V453000> hover bus !
20:17:03  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I want a new truck set
20:17:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> trains!
20:17:17  <Stablean> <andythenorth> bleargh
20:17:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> faster road trains!
20:17:42  <Stablean> <V453000> even eGRVTS horses are faster :-D
20:17:54  <Stablean> <andythenorth> we should now try and get rid of all bulldozers :)
20:18:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD  yeah, 0 "horse power" carriages drawn by 6 horses
20:18:15  <Stablean> <V453000> arr
20:18:21  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I never use bulldozers on normal roads
20:18:24  <Stablean> <andythenorth> for obvious reasons....
20:18:32  <Stablean> <V453000> ye :D
20:18:58  <Stablean> <andythenorth> all the coal hauling ones are being replaced
20:20:11  <Stablean> <V453000> that isnt needed
20:20:13  <Stablean> <V453000> these cant collide
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20:20:33  <V453000> bah :D
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20:21:00  <Stablean> <andythenorth> V453000: the obvious reason was....they are fricking slow
20:21:03  <Stablean> <andythenorth> :D
20:21:10  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly :(
20:23:11  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I just saw a rv overtaking in tunnel
20:23:22  <Stablean> <V453000> srsly :o
20:23:49  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I guess, if it starts before the entry
20:24:08  <Stablean> <V453000> yea, something like that
20:24:26  <Stablean> <V453000> although most of the time if it starts before the entry and does not finish, it stops and waits
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20:25:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> double bridge works
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20:26:37  <Stablean> <andythenorth> we should separate the crappy farm traffic from the minerals / logs
20:26:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> farm traffic is slow :P
20:26:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> where slow = 25mph
20:27:02  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and 'fast' is 35mph
20:27:08  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it's all relative :P
20:27:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, with wp's that is not optimal
20:27:44  <Stablean> <V453000> feel free to make conditional waypoints :)
20:27:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ammler separate routes?
20:28:05  <Stablean> <Amm1er> ah
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20:28:29  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you need wps to split
20:28:33  <Stablean> <andythenorth> gah
20:28:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> no need in the orders
20:28:45  <Stablean> <andythenorth> bildudular gr
20:28:59  <Stablean> <andythenorth> my calculation of speed vs. cap was wrong when I replaced all the bulldozers with tractors
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20:30:18  <Stablean> <andythenorth> `
20:30:36  <Stablean> <andythenorth> can we move all goods to trams
20:30:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
20:31:34  <Stablean> <V453000> feel free to do anything
20:32:54  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what is the idea, with isle for the bridges?
20:33:23  <Stablean> <V453000> the idea is, if a bus is able to reach the slowbie in front of it, it might be able to overtake it on the 1 tile
20:33:34  <Stablean> <andythenorth> seems to be working?
20:33:42  <Stablean> <V453000> problem is when there are 2 or more slow ones
20:33:56  <Stablean> <V453000> otherwise works
20:34:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> yeah
20:34:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, indeed :-)
20:34:32  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it just let a dump truck get past two bigger trucks
20:34:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and then a bus passed the dump truck
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20:35:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> did some oil wells close at bildudalur halt?
20:35:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> check bus #342
20:35:46  <Stablean> <Amm1er> why can't it overtake
20:36:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> seems like Fourtrac isn't overtakeable
20:36:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ammler the log truck in front is articulated
20:36:17  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it has invisible trailer
20:36:30  <Stablean> <V453000> lol :D
20:37:06  <Stablean> <andythenorth> can I scrap these oil vehicles at bildudular halt
20:37:09  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
20:37:23  <Stablean> <V453000> yea
20:37:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> k
20:37:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the buses are all swarmed
20:37:39  <Stablean> <andythenorth> do you scrap infrastructure when not used
20:37:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
20:37:48  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm I forgot to add temperate oil wells neutralizer newgrf? :(
20:38:06  <Stablean> <V453000> what a noob me, I thought I added it
20:38:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is manind2
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20:39:20  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ammler how do I see connected players?
20:39:31  <V453000> client list
20:39:37  <V453000> the button of "company"
20:39:39  <V453000> hold it
20:39:45  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is the button with the companies
20:39:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> a head on opengfx tool bar
20:40:05  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ha not many players left :)
20:40:21  <Stablean> <Amm1er> there weren't many more
20:40:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> there is also a irc channel .stable
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20:40:50  <V453000> :(
20:40:59  <Ammler> !players
20:41:01  <V453000> I am unable to load my RV game
20:41:02  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 18 is DayDreamer, a spectator
20:41:02  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 28 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Sharkey & Co.)
20:41:02  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 30 (Orange) is andythenorth, in company 1 (Sharkey & Co.)
20:41:17  <V453000> openttd freezes when I do
20:41:17  <V453000> ... only when I unpause
20:41:33  <Ammler> the 3000 rvs game?
20:41:46  <V453000> 5
20:41:52  <Ammler> ah, or that
20:42:08  <Stablean> <andythenorth> is there any goal in this game?
20:42:10  <Ammler> you should show that to the openttd devs
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20:42:15  <Ammler> so they can rise the limit
20:42:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> when does the last vehicle apear?
20:42:48  <Stablean> <andythenorth> for HEQS?
20:42:50  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes
20:42:53  <V453000> Ammler: the vehicles are barely moving already, so I will rather try a smaller map :p
20:43:05  <Stablean> <andythenorth> around about 2000
20:43:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> there are some upgrades and stuff later, but nothing significant
20:43:26  <Stablean> <Amm1er> andythenorth: the server does pause
20:43:32  <Stablean> <Amm1er> when no player is connected
20:43:43  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so it can happen games take a week or so
20:43:46  <Stablean> <andythenorth> k
20:44:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> did this game have any goal besides 'try heqs'
20:44:03  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
20:44:09  <Stablean> <Amm1er> on .stable, mostly european players
20:44:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the ps does run a bit more but there we play for around 200-300 years
20:44:39  <Stablean> <Amm1er> here around 100
20:45:09  <Stablean> <Amm1er> if you go afk, just swithc to spec
20:45:23  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so you don't need to rejoin
20:45:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> k
20:45:54  <V453000> andythenorth: no, this game is dedicated to HEQS
20:45:54  <V453000> it was an opportunity to play a more of private game since we do use non-bananas newGRFs, also an opportunity of having a RV game
20:46:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> so no other targets
20:46:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> seeing as I'm building stuff....
20:46:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> thought I should ask
20:46:29  <Stablean> <andythenorth> :)
20:46:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what "goals" do you expect?
20:46:37  <Stablean> <andythenorth> dunno
20:46:41  <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-)
20:46:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> city growth, max out industries, connect all industries
20:46:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> whatever :)
20:47:02  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that isn't possible
20:47:09  <Stablean> <andythenorth> use least amount of infrastructure
20:47:12  <Stablean> <Amm1er> your cpu won't allow that
20:47:14  <Stablean> <andythenorth> most money :D
20:48:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I thought, rvs are able to overtake articulated vehicels
20:49:10  <Stablean> <Amm1er> just artis aren't
20:49:21  <Stablean> <andythenorth> correct
20:49:31  <Stablean> <andythenorth> but there's some limit to how many they can overtake
20:50:13  <Stablean> <Amm1er> it is really a very nice set
20:50:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> we never use rvs usually,...
20:50:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> thanks
20:52:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes, if a rv starts overtaking on the tile before tunnel, it works and the rv drives the whole tunnel on the overtaking lane
20:55:39  <Stablean> <andythenorth> trams are too easy :P
20:56:49  <Stablean> <Amm1er> ctrl-b does show you invisible arti sprites
20:56:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> yes
20:57:00  <Stablean> <Amm1er> why do you make that?
20:57:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it's the only way to have the trailer when loaded
20:57:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and on the truck when empty
20:57:25  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I mean the log truck e.g.
20:57:35  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the trailer still has to be there
20:57:45  <Stablean> <andythenorth> even when it 'looks' loaded on the truck
20:58:11  <Stablean> <andythenorth> Ammler any way to see what others are building?
20:58:14  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, so you can't make the same vehicle articulated and not
20:58:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> e.g. you...
20:58:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I don't
20:58:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> :)
20:58:45  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes, you could use the watch gui
20:59:07  <Stablean> <Amm1er> or bb2
20:59:19  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the watch gui is for example part of "my" client patch pack
20:59:42  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so I can watch you ;-)
20:59:57  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you also don't build anything
21:00:07  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I just fixed some goods transport :)
21:00:17  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and got rid of bulldozers in favour of trams
21:00:20  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes, but that was before you asked
21:00:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> yes indeed
21:00:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> now I am looking if there is anything left to build
21:00:58  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the last action you did is at the depot at Vogar
21:01:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> most industry seems to be connected now
21:01:28  <Stablean> <andythenorth> apart from all the stupid power plants
21:01:46  <Stablean> <Amm1er> we could prospect
21:01:52  <Stablean> <andythenorth> meh
21:01:54  <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-)
21:02:00  <Stablean> <andythenorth> not enough industry types :P
21:02:05  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
21:02:06  <Stablean> <Amm1er> lol
21:02:22  <Stablean> <Amm1er> maybe Sylf has an idea
21:02:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> Amm1er: really the only challenge here is to optimise the routes :)
21:02:32  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and try and max industry production
21:02:48  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the whole work I did is adding a tunnel and a bridge
21:03:02  <Stablean> <andythenorth> we should try and get max production with current number of vehicles (321)
21:03:17  <Sylf> ?   /me scrolls back the log
21:03:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> lots of wasted vehicles currently
21:03:28  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I don't see any serious jams anymore
21:03:32  <Stablean> <andythenorth> e.g. garbabaer mines
21:03:59  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh
21:04:05  <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is because of the upgrade
21:04:19  <Stablean> <Amm1er> why is that rating so low?
21:04:34  <Stablean> <andythenorth> never seems to go above 67%
21:04:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> or with RVs at least
21:04:56  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
21:05:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> tractors from bildudular gr to factory drop are taking a long route
21:05:49  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should use that island sw of the farms
21:06:08  <Stablean> <andythenorth> how much terraforming is encouraged?
21:06:29  <Stablean> <Amm1er> how much you need
21:06:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> "as much as needed"?
21:06:38  <Stablean> <Amm1er> just make it nice looking afterwards :-P
21:07:00  <Stablean> <Amm1er> imo, that station is broken
21:07:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I'm building a 'tractors only' route
21:08:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
21:08:19  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I should have shared bridges with the trams :0
21:09:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm
21:09:40  <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1
21:09:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> oil is gone
21:09:54  <Stablean> <andythenorth> prospect?
21:09:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what are those vogar norht trams for?
21:10:12  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I guess, no oil after 1960?
21:10:15  <Stablean> <andythenorth> should be scrapped
21:10:21  <Stablean> <Amm1er> and no rigs
21:10:24  <Stablean> <andythenorth> where's the oil platforms :o
21:10:30  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
21:10:39  <Stablean> <Amm1er> V453000: should fix that :-P
21:10:39  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
21:11:12  <Stablean> <andythenorth> vogar woods is nearly out of oil too
21:11:13  <V453000> I thought I added the oil wells die neutraliser, but I obviously didnt :|
21:11:34  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
21:11:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> new mining truck soon
21:11:40  <Stablean> <Amm1er> not possible to add that now?
21:11:48  <Stablean> <V453000> it might be
21:11:51  <Stablean> <V453000> well, we can try
21:12:03  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
21:12:22  <V453000> !date
21:12:22  <Stablean> V453000: 27 Jun 1978
21:12:44  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings raw
21:12:44  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
21:12:44  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.raw_industry_construction = 2
21:12:44  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
21:12:56  <Ammler> !rcon set construction.raw_industry_construction 1
21:13:11  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
21:13:24  <Ammler> now you can place the industry where you like :-)
21:14:21  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
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21:15:17  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, if you reload, enable the magic bulldozer
21:15:27  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so we can remove some powerstatations
21:16:50  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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21:17:13  <V453000> !auto
21:17:13  <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
21:17:15  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual)
21:17:19  <andythenorth> wow
21:17:25  <andythenorth> title screen vehicles are *really* fast :P
21:17:35  <Stablean> <V453000> xD
21:18:19  <andythenorth> I need that oil wells grf
21:18:36  <andythenorth> not on bananas
21:18:44  <Stablean> <V453000> it should be on bananas
21:18:47  <Stablean> <V453000> we use it quite often here
21:19:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes, it is from bananas
21:19:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I see that from the path
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21:20:58  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings close
21:20:58  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
21:20:58  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
21:21:06  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings industries
21:21:06  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
21:21:11  <Stablean> Ammler: difficulty.number_industries = 4
21:21:11  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
21:21:21  <Ammler> V453000: how is the setting for industries close together?
21:21:29  <V453000> ??
21:21:30  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings industr
21:21:30  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
21:21:30  <Stablean> Ammler: difficulty.number_industries = 4
21:21:30  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.raw_industry_construction = 1
21:21:31  <Stablean> Ammler: economy.multiple_industry_per_town = on
21:21:31  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
21:21:49  <Ammler> what is number_industries?
21:22:08  <V453000> none/low/medium/high in generator?
21:22:29  <V453000> maybe also very low, idk
21:22:32  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
21:22:50  <V453000> either way, I will have to go, gnight
21:22:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> it says high in the Difficulty window
21:22:59  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the main route in the middle of the map is running quite fast now :)
21:25:01  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so, now we got more oil
21:25:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> no pipelines though :P
21:30:24  <Stablean> <andythenorth> is multiplayer always this 'skippy'?
21:30:35  <Ammler> andy, can't you change the length of the invisible wagon?
21:30:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> sometimes
21:30:43  <Stablean> <Amm1er> skippy?
21:30:57  <Stablean> <andythenorth> Amm1er: I could, but it won't affect overtaking, just vehicle distances
21:31:30  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes, but if the length is shorter, the probability to overtake is bigger
21:31:44  <Stablean> <andythenorth> someone should write a ticket :)
21:32:04  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I don't remember if the length cb runs when leaving a station
21:32:06  <Stablean> <Amm1er> and it looks strange, that vehicls drive that close to every other rv, just not there
21:32:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> if it does, I can fix it
21:32:48  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
21:32:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> stilll the farm station is filling up
21:34:21  <Stablean> <Amm1er> something is broken at Garðabær
21:34:41  <Stablean> <andythenorth> which station?
21:34:47  <Stablean> <Amm1er> mines
21:35:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> way too many vehicles :P
21:35:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> scrap the older ones
21:35:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I thought I just removed a load from that route
21:35:25  <Stablean> <andythenorth> maybe not
21:35:39  <Stablean> <andythenorth> new mining truck soon anyway
21:36:41  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the station doesn't work
21:36:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> apparently not
21:36:54  <Stablean> <Amm1er> if a rv is loaded, it needs to wait untile the other is loaded
21:37:00  <Stablean> <andythenorth> optimise it?
21:40:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> new mining truck
21:40:33  <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-)
21:41:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> what you meant with "skippy"?
21:41:30  <Stablean> <andythenorth> lag when updating screen / vehicles jump
21:41:49  <Ammler> !rcon status
21:41:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56  name: 'Amm1er'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 1  IP:
21:41:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #57  name: 'DayDreamer'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 255  IP:
21:41:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #58  name: 'Sylf'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   7  company: 1  IP:
21:41:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:  41  company: 1  IP:
21:42:02  <Ammler> [22:41] <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:  41
21:42:11  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you have frame-lag of 41 :-o
21:42:20  <Stablean> <Amm1er> usual is 4
21:42:24  <Stablean> <andythenorth> is it a network issue?
21:42:30  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yes
21:42:33  <Stablean> <andythenorth> bah
21:42:42  <Ammler> [22:41] <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56  name: 'Amm1er'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2
21:42:46  <Stablean> <andythenorth> any known fixes?
21:42:49  <Ammler> [22:41] <Stablean> Ammler: Client #58  name: 'Sylf'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   7
21:43:29  <Ammler> !rcon status
21:43:29  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56  name: 'Amm1er'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 1  IP:
21:43:29  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #57  name: 'DayDreamer'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   1  company: 255  IP:
21:43:29  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #58  name: 'Sylf'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   8  company: 1  IP:
21:43:29  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 1  IP:
21:43:37  <Ammler> [22:43] <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2
21:43:41  <Ammler> now ^
21:43:43  <Stablean> <andythenorth> we should replace all the mining trucks with the faster one
21:43:49  <Stablean> <andythenorth> oh
21:43:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> frick
21:43:52  <Ammler> so you have quite unstable connection :-)
21:43:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> now there's two mining trucks
21:44:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> which to choose :P
21:44:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hehe
21:44:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> HEQS is evil in minor way
21:44:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> who wants to do replace?
21:44:50  <Stablean> <Amm1er> harney peak
21:44:52  <Stablean> <andythenorth> for vehicles sharing main routes, I'd suggest Harney peak
21:45:00  <Stablean> <andythenorth> the big one is....bigger :P
21:45:10  <Stablean> <Amm1er> indeed
21:45:12  <Stablean> <Amm1er> double
21:45:16  <Stablean> <andythenorth> but not good on shared routes
21:45:26  <Stablean> <Amm1er> use both
21:45:32  <Stablean> <Amm1er> so we can see
21:45:42  <Stablean> <andythenorth> Amm1er: you do the replace
21:45:44  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
21:45:54  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, I would prefer you doing it :-)
21:46:12  <Stablean> <andythenorth> done
21:46:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> meanwhile the stupid bulldozers got better recently
21:46:28  <Stablean> <andythenorth> bigger
21:46:42  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and if it was HEQS 0.9.6, more power
21:47:19  <Stablean> <andythenorth> gah
21:47:21  <Stablean> <Amm1er> why are the road depots made exit only?
21:47:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> is there a special depot for replacing?
21:47:33  <Stablean> <andythenorth> why are mining trucks using my tractor / farm route?
21:47:45  <Stablean> <Amm1er> did you wrongly share :-P
21:47:51  <Stablean> <andythenorth> no
21:47:57  <Stablean> <Amm1er> where?
21:47:57  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I don't think so anyway
21:48:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> to get to the depots for replacement?
21:48:06  <V453000> Ammler: RVs are EXTREMELY stupid when autoreplacing
21:48:12  <Stablean> <andythenorth> near factory drop
21:48:25  <Ammler> V453000: this means?
21:48:44  <Stablean> <andythenorth> once the harney peak truck is available, things start to get quite interesting
21:48:55  <Stablean> <andythenorth> especially if you have high production industry ;)
21:49:17  <Ammler> !rcon status
21:49:17  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56  name: 'Amm1er'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 1  IP:
21:49:17  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #57  name: 'DayDreamer'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 255  IP:
21:49:17  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #58  name: 'Sylf'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   7  company: 1  IP:
21:49:17  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:  53  company: 1  IP:
21:49:28  <Ammler> [22:49] <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:  53 <-- lol
21:49:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> ouch
21:49:42  <Stablean> <andythenorth> you should see my google ping times :(
21:49:44  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you don't have dial in or so?
21:49:59  <Stablean> <andythenorth> no
21:50:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> virgin fibre
21:50:11  <Stablean> <andythenorth> 'uk's fastest broadband'
21:50:19  <Stablean> <andythenorth> or so advert says
21:50:25  <Ammler> ping
21:50:59  <Stablean> <andythenorth> varies from 42 to 1000
21:51:11  <Stablean> <andythenorth> maybe my wife is watching tv :P
21:51:36  <Ammler> iptv?
21:51:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> she's supposed to be asleep
21:51:49  <Stablean> <andythenorth> but maybe not
21:52:04  <Ammler> she's waiting ;-)
21:52:23  <Ammler> and you play with trains :-P
21:52:43  <Ammler> trucks*
21:53:22  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
21:53:30  <Stablean> <andythenorth> now bildudular farm is flooded
21:53:46  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yeah, if you upgrade
21:53:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you might need to trash some
21:54:04  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I just added more tractors a while back
21:54:06  <Stablean> <andythenorth> no upgrade ;)
21:54:08  <V453000> Ammler: that means that RVs autoreplace blindly at an any close depot
21:54:14  <V453000> and they can really screw up
21:54:28  <Ammler> ok
21:54:58  <Ammler> that was the reason, mining trucks took the farm route
21:55:12  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I've isolated the farm route totally now
21:55:21  <Stablean> <andythenorth> where are roadtypes :P
21:55:36  <Stablean> <Amm1er> indeed
21:55:52  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I guess, peter took a lloook on it this week?
21:56:08  <Stablean> <andythenorth> far as I know he's playing minecraft :p
21:56:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> irl, we would isolate the heavy trucks from the passenger buses....
21:56:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> I was just thinking about that...
21:57:12  <Stablean> <Amm1er> anh
21:57:22  <Stablean> <Amm1er> those do nicely overtake
21:57:56  <Stablean> <Amm1er> we don't have heavy trucks here
21:58:02  <Stablean> <Amm1er> 40t is limit
21:58:47  <Stablean> <andythenorth> wood trucks to bildudalur sawmill are slowing buses...
21:58:49  <Stablean> <Amm1er> and quite much it is even lower
21:59:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> but heavy trucks should have gaps between each other
22:00:07  <Stablean> <andythenorth> currently there is a big highway
22:00:13  <Stablean> <andythenorth> two lanes of one way road
22:00:27  <Stablean> <andythenorth> how about two highways, bi-directional each road?
22:00:38  <Stablean> <andythenorth> isolated
22:00:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> the steel haulers slow down these traffic a lot
22:01:00  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings frame
22:01:00  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
22:01:00  <Stablean> Ammler: network.frame_freq = 0
22:01:00  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
22:01:12  <Ammler> !rcon set frame_freq 4
22:01:26  <Stablean> <andythenorth> they take a very long route
22:01:40  <Stablean> <andythenorth> isolate it from other routes, but join it to the farm route?
22:02:10  <Stablean> <andythenorth> or use the trams
22:02:18  <Stablean> <andythenorth> steel haulers are for very short run
22:02:22  <Ammler> !rcon status
22:02:22  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56  name: 'Amm1er'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 1  IP:
22:02:22  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #57  name: 'DayDreamer'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   2  company: 255  IP:
22:02:22  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #58  name: 'Sylf'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   8  company: 1  IP:
22:02:22  <Stablean> Ammler: Client #63  name: 'andythenorth'  status: 'active'  frame-lag:   4  company: 1  IP:
22:02:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> there is already a tram route for that too
22:02:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> we can retire those trucks
22:02:53  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I would
22:03:03  <Stablean> <andythenorth> or we build a new factory :)
22:04:01  <Stablean> <andythenorth> there is a power plant in vogar
22:04:15  <Stablean> <andythenorth> that could use coal from bildudalur coal mine
22:04:25  <Stablean> <andythenorth> running big trucks in town :P
22:04:57  <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost)
22:05:05  <Stablean> <andythenorth> are boats allowed in this game
22:05:07  <Stablean> <andythenorth> ?
22:05:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> I suppose so
22:05:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> no cost modifier for this game anyway
22:05:57  *** DayDreamer has quit IRC
22:06:09  <Stablean> <andythenorth> a boat to get to the power plant in Vogar would help
22:06:19  <Stablean> <andythenorth> it's quite close to coast
22:07:42  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
22:07:48  <Stablean> <andythenorth> docks are disabled :P
22:07:54  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I guess RV only means that
22:08:06  <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships
22:08:06  <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'max_ships' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 5000)
22:08:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> max ships per player... 0
22:08:16  <Ammler> you need ships?
22:08:19  <Ammler> how many?
22:08:30  <Stablean> <andythenorth> hmm
22:08:37  <Stablean> <andythenorth> mine output is currently 207
22:08:43  <Stablean> <andythenorth> distance is short
22:08:44  <Ammler> you are welcome to also play usual games btw.
22:08:49  <Stablean> <andythenorth> 1 or 2 ships?
22:08:56  <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships 10
22:08:56  <Stablean> <andythenorth> but I should go to bed
22:09:11  <Stablean> <andythenorth> no interesting vehicles for a few years now
22:09:12  <Ammler> ships are enabled now
22:09:47  <Ammler> this is just a special game dedicated to heqs
22:09:59  <Ammler> usually, everything is allowed, I guess f
22:18:14  <Stablean> <andythenorth> right I should go to bed
22:18:23  <Stablean> <andythenorth> I built a transfer route with a boat
22:18:34  <Stablean> <andythenorth> and scrapped some vehicles
22:19:04  <Stablean> <andythenorth> good night
22:19:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> ah, over there.
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22:19:10  <planetmaker> good night, andy
22:19:25  <planetmaker> meh, damn
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