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00:04:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> better? 00:04:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 00:04:36 <Stablean> *** SirkoZ has left the game (leaving) 00:04:48 <Stablean> <Vinnie> will you stay long tonight 00:04:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why? 00:05:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> jam at BBH02 and if we leave now it pauses and i fix it in this state tommorow 00:05:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> needs expanding 00:06:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really in the mood for it atm 00:06:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> me nether 00:06:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im going to sleep for the last time goodnight 00:06:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> gn 00:06:51 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 00:06:55 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 00:08:23 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 01:26:31 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:21:54 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 02:24:23 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:29:33 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 02:29:48 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 02:40:43 <Stablean> *** Kejhic joined the game 02:46:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ask for it 02:46:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but since i didnt start it, im not really comfortable about giving it 02:47:02 <Stablean> <Kejhic> hmm, truly coop :-) 02:47:29 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has left the game (leaving) 03:01:22 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 03:05:30 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 03:05:32 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 03:16:34 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 03:16:34 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:17:03 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 03:17:03 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:22:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 03:22:26 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:24:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 04:49:56 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:49:56 <Stablean> *** Farrusco joined the game 04:56:18 <Stablean> *** Farrusco has left the game (connection lost) 04:56:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:58:52 <Stablean> *** Farrusco has left the game (leaving) 04:58:54 <Stablean> *** Farrusco joined the game 04:59:14 <Stablean> *** Farrusco joined the game 04:59:31 <Stablean> *** Farrusco has left the game (leaving) 04:59:43 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:59:45 <Stablean> *** Farrusco joined the game 05:03:04 <Stablean> *** Farrusco has left the game (leaving) 05:03:04 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:33:36 *** greenlion has quit IRC 05:44:39 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:15:43 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 07:15:59 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:18:06 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:18:55 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 07:18:55 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:20:43 <DayDreamer> good morning 07:20:49 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 07:21:22 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 07:21:38 <Stablean> <Vinnie> troy did a landbridge near factory drop :( 07:27:36 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 07:28:51 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:29:04 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 07:29:12 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> heh BSOD :( 07:34:10 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 07:37:20 <Stablean> *** ZS joined the game 07:38:16 <Stablean> *** ZS has left the game (leaving) 07:40:57 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 07:59:21 <Stablean> *** Mr_Fialho joined the game 08:10:41 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> we might replace mineral wangons with new ones 08:11:28 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> some trains have wagons with low capapcity 08:11:47 <Stablean> <Vinnie> change carrages for all type of trains? 08:17:22 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> would be best to change it .. AL is strong enough to handle heavy wagoons .. that is my opinion 08:22:53 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> afk 08:22:59 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined spectators 08:24:00 <V453000> !date 08:24:11 <V453000> I suppose you already have the bogie bolsters for wood eh 08:24:20 <Stablean> <Vinnie> no wood V 08:24:24 <V453000> good :) 08:24:32 <Stablean> <Vinnie> german comp took all wood near us 08:24:33 <V453000> because for those there are better wagons coming later 08:25:13 <V453000> so if you plan to get wood, get the small wagons I recommend :P or when the OTA Wood wagons are available, then those :) 08:25:47 <Stablean> <Vinnie> is a landbridge proper design? 08:25:56 <V453000> hm? 08:26:36 <V453000> thats just a type of bridge, itself has nothing to do with proper, only if works/not, eventually gap too long yes/no 08:26:49 <DayDreamer1> capacity of the OTA and bogie is same .. you can more OTA with lower capcacity or less bogie with higher capacity .. dont you think? 08:27:02 <DayDreamer1> *you can use 08:27:16 <V453000> DD: OTA has more in total 08:27:28 <DayDreamer1> in TL3? 08:27:29 <V453000> I am not entirely sure if bogie actually has more than 25 08:27:30 <V453000> yes 08:28:08 <V453000> bogies have just the refit advantage ... and they are for steel primarily :) 08:28:32 <V453000> not sure about loading times, and they might be faster with wagon speed limits on 08:30:10 <V453000> Bogie Bolster: 130, OTA Timber Truck: 150 08:30:16 <V453000> tonnes per TL3 with one AL10 08:30:31 <DayDreamer1> :) 08:31:01 <V453000> bogie bolster: 5x 26, OTA Timber Truck 6x 25 08:31:03 <V453000> :) 08:31:38 <V453000> now im off because I just came up with something crazy \o/ 08:33:03 <Stablean> *** Mr_Fialho has left the game (leaving) 08:34:10 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 08:34:53 <Stablean> <V453000> bankruptcy? :) 08:34:59 <Stablean> <Vinnie> not yet 08:35:03 <Stablean> <Vinnie> tf wate :) 08:35:09 <Stablean> <Vinnie> water 08:35:11 <Stablean> <V453000> well you just wasted some trains :P 08:35:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i'm trying to fix a jam :) 08:35:46 <Stablean> <V453000> I realised :) 08:37:33 <Stablean> <V453000> the grey rails are kinda nice :) 08:37:43 <Stablean> <V453000> at least as a change :) 08:37:53 <Stablean> <Vinnie> white rails are in the way :) 08:42:55 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 08:52:45 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:28:46 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 09:33:11 <V453000> Vinnie: got a new logic thing :D 09:33:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> on public? 09:33:32 <V453000> not yet 09:33:36 <V453000> so far only in SP :) 09:33:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> SRNW? 09:33:49 <V453000> will be applied there, yes :) 09:34:00 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohhh exited 09:34:01 <V453000> it is for the Sbahn style dsrnw 09:34:04 <Stablean> <Vinnie> exiting 09:34:17 <V453000> I was thinking how to make the overflow there, because without an overflow it is kinda sucky srnw 09:34:31 <V453000> and overflow will be needed when we want to service all stations well 09:34:53 <V453000> so I though: lets release trains to the station where the least amount of trains arrived in the last time period 09:34:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> so you use it for the SBahn/ ICE Island 09:34:59 <V453000> no 09:35:00 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:35:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:35:17 <V453000> the SRNW mazur wrote about 09:35:27 <V453000> on 05 09:35:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ke 09:35:45 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i also had some tought about mzur part 09:35:57 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:36:11 <Stablean> <Vinnie> but my idea would be a srnw within a srnw 09:36:19 <V453000> and I just made a mechanism that is able to say which station got the least amount of trains in the last period, and then release trains to the right part :) 09:36:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> an inner loop is used for that ? 09:37:04 <V453000> there is no inner loop 09:37:16 <V453000> the overflow will need one central depot with connections to all stations 09:37:39 <V453000> which could have a loop as well, but .. :) 09:37:44 <V453000> the same point 09:37:51 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah so i would create an inner loop with an overflow buffer to each station. release the buffer when triggered 09:38:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> when 1 buffer gets empty release train from depot 09:38:20 <V453000> yes, pretty much 09:38:27 <V453000> more of a problem was the releaser to me :P 09:38:40 <V453000> now it will be ok, I will just need to see how small/HUGE can it bbe 09:38:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> wires from each station :) 09:38:56 <V453000> not only wires :D each station gets a counter 09:39:43 <V453000> which is about 12x15 tiles x.X 09:39:52 <V453000> plus 1 larger gate ... 09:40:25 <V453000> will be fun to get it on that island ... will make it filled head to toe D: 09:41:12 <Vinnie> I wouldnt use a counter. the last station always get the least amount of trains so i would trigger the overflow by empty platform and trains underway to each station 09:41:33 <V453000> that is more complicated than you think :) 09:41:49 <Vinnie> not how i would do it :) 09:42:03 <Vinnie> i shall make a sp example 09:42:14 <V453000> :) 09:42:20 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 09:42:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:45:00 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 09:45:03 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 10:33:06 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:33:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 10:38:48 <Stablean> <Vinnie> \ 11:03:54 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:08:17 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 11:16:40 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 11:19:13 <DayDreamer> !players 11:19:15 <Stablean> DayDreamer: Client 166 is Chris Booth, a spectator 11:19:29 <DayDreamer> hello Chris 11:37:19 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:37:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:40:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 11:40:32 <Stablean> <V453000> elo 11:41:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:02:19 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:02:19 <Stablean> *** Farrusco joined the game 12:02:25 <Stablean> *** Mr_Fialho joined the game 12:02:56 <Vinnie> !players 12:02:59 <Stablean> Vinnie: Client 166 is Chris Booth, a spectator 12:02:59 <Stablean> Vinnie: Client 171 (Pink) is Farrusco, in company 5 (Farrusco Transport) 12:02:59 <Stablean> Vinnie: Client 172 (Green) is Mr_Fialho, in company 6 (Unnamed) 12:03:27 <DayDreamer> !info 12:03:27 <Stablean> DayDreamer: http://stable.openttdcoop.org 12:04:51 <Stablean> *** Mr_Fialho has left the game (leaving) 12:04:55 <Stablean> *** Farrusco has left the game (leaving) 12:04:55 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:21:16 <Stablean> *** K joined the game 12:22:28 <Stablean> *** K has left the game (leaving) 12:42:07 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 13:11:05 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 13:11:05 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:12:27 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 13:12:27 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:18:06 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 13:18:07 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 13:18:31 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 13:18:31 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:23:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi 13:24:08 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 13:24:32 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i improved some lines today 13:26:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to build an SLH near Genpool Coal Mine 13:35:01 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:35:11 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 13:35:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure 13:43:23 *** greenlion has quit IRC 13:44:19 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:48:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now just Wonningbury Woods needs and SLH 13:51:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the ML @ BBH 06 must be the shortst ML on the map 13:51:43 <Stablean> <Vinnie> why 13:51:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 - SLH 06 13:51:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 7 tiles 13:52:00 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah 13:53:32 *** greenlion has quit IRC 13:53:47 <Stablean> <Vinnie> Troy McClure: please go to sign !troy 13:53:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes? 13:54:05 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:54:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replaced the bridges with 2x2 lanes 13:54:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why are we using land bridges Vinnie? 13:54:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is that against the rules? 13:54:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 13:55:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I do have an explanation 13:55:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for a 20 -ish gap, you need 5 bridges per lane 13:55:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> build and island in the middle 13:55:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or maybe 2 13:56:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we only have room for 8 in total 13:56:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its cheaper and looks nicer 13:56:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we would need 4x5 = 20 bridges 13:57:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> want me to lose the land bridges again? 13:58:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok my making Spagetti is now finished 13:59:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahh shit 13:59:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what? 14:00:33 <Stablean> <Vinnie> 5 minutes madness :( 14:02:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did anyone else order spegetti? 14:02:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> shall we expand to new part of map and make some spagetti? 14:02:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 14:02:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have 2 MLs that are not linked 14:03:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> south of SLH 06 and East of BBH 06 14:03:14 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 14:03:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 - BBH 07 link? 14:04:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 14:04:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why? 14:04:20 <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets do it 14:07:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shall we build a BBSLH @ here? 14:07:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so its 4 ways 14:07:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh nice idea 14:07:25 <Stablean> <Vinnie> spagetti 14:07:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes kinda like SLH 06 14:12:34 <Stablean> <Vinnie> die factrory die 14:14:15 <Stablean> *** Polarwolf(GER) joined the game 14:14:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello Polarwolf(GER) 14:14:37 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hello again 14:15:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice sweet spot :) 14:15:39 <Stablean> *** Polarwolf(GER) has joined company #2 14:20:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was just about to point that out 14:24:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> a sl with a SLH behind it? 14:24:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> both the coal mines need a connection 14:24:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not me 14:24:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not necesssary? 14:24:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its an SL 14:25:15 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> what'S the meaning of SL and SLH is there a faQ or something like this, where i can read about ? 14:25:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Side line 14:25:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Side line hub 14:25:25 <Stablean> <Vinnie> openttdcoop.org 14:25:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> openttdcoop wiki 14:28:22 <Stablean> *** Atoompje joined the game 14:28:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 14:28:29 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hello 14:28:31 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hey 14:28:51 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 14:30:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: one of your die signs worked! 14:30:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, that was me 14:30:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> had hoped it worked 14:35:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> We now have an ML south/west of Drinnwell 14:35:09 <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol white, what happend to your income? 14:35:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replacing trains i guess... 14:35:35 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> Yes Sir 14:35:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no hejamed his goods pickup 14:36:09 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> no the Goods pick up was never stop 14:36:23 <Stablean> <Atoompje> i can use some improvements 14:36:25 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> one part run every time 14:36:36 <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh ok:) 14:38:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> White if you let me join 14:38:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can fix you siganls 14:38:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to make trains use both depots 14:39:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> also you know breakdowns are off so you don't need depots 14:40:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Do we really want to continue the ML at the Future Bridge Point? 14:40:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I did want to link it to BBH 04 14:41:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so there was a better route to to factory 14:41:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> would need a huge rebuild 14:41:41 <Stablean> <Vinnie> but our friend his station is in the way :) 14:41:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> he does 14:42:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the lines can be ditched now 14:42:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because we might be able to expand Factory area if we dont need all those extra lines... 14:43:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: just delete them the cost to brigde the sea there will be huge and white is in the way 14:43:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that means BBH 04 can go aswell 14:43:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we do have another option: move the factory dropoff etc 14:43:28 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> Ruwood ? 14:43:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes Ruwood 14:44:05 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:44:33 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 14:45:48 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> better ? 14:45:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks 14:46:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok looks like full rebuild is called for then 14:47:00 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has joined company #1 14:47:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no It will be an ML link 14:47:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 14:48:19 <Stablean> <Atoompje> going home - cya in an hour 14:48:25 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has left the game (leaving) 14:51:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok now lets build a complete new factory and station 14:51:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tot he West on that island 14:51:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stop all traffic? 14:51:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 14:51:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> keep traffic moving 14:51:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats why we build a new station 14:52:04 <Stablean> *** Kejhic joined the game 14:52:20 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has left the game (connection lost) 14:56:15 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 14:56:19 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi 14:56:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 14:56:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi DayDreamer 14:57:00 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hi 14:58:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok new exit built 14:58:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need to save a bit for the end of the bridges 15:02:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: can you start building the new drop / pickup @ the factroy 15:02:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're still working on the MSH? 15:03:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, but we can build 2 things at once 15:03:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I just wanted and Idea on the space we have 15:03:36 <Stablean> *** allek joined the game 15:03:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> while we are saving to finish 15:03:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 lanes of exit for both pickup and dropoff? 15:03:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 15:04:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can move it 15:04:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> doesnt have to be where it is 15:04:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just where I finished 15:04:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk 15:09:06 <Stablean> *** allek has left the game (leaving) 15:09:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does that give you a general idea? 15:09:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 15:09:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you finish it 15:09:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then we can move the trains 15:09:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I will build the other half of the MSH 15:09:55 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 15:11:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just trying to keep tabs on what is what 15:11:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we don't get confused 15:16:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok lets send all trains to depots 15:16:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and start the move 15:16:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why to depots? 15:16:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cant you just put in the new orders? 15:17:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we dont miss any when we change the orders 15:17:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can just check in the old factory drop menu 15:17:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just factory trains 15:17:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> besides, we still need a hook on 15:17:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and gives us space to work on the new junction 15:25:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can we release the trains again? 15:25:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 15:26:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> here we go... 15:27:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its finished 15:28:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just need to build the MSH - BBH 04 link 15:28:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> need to double it probably too 15:28:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> no 15:28:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains now go BBH01-BBH02 15:28:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but they will be going BBH01-MSH01-BBH04 then 15:28:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wont they? 15:29:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not all of the, 15:29:03 <Stablean> <Vinnie> from BBH 04 there is noentry possible to drop 15:29:09 <Stablean> <Vinnie> no entry 15:29:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> so only some will return via BBH 04 15:29:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not yet 15:29:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not entire BBH? 15:29:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but there will be 15:30:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> missing 1 link 15:34:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice jam 15:34:13 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> where ;) 15:34:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> at our coal drop 15:34:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> trains went to that depot 15:34:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's because of locking the factory trains up and releasing them at once 15:35:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i've already made a sloppy bypass for those trains 15:35:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it will unjam 15:35:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes it will 15:46:36 <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> cya 15:46:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye 15:46:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye 15:46:50 <Stablean> *** Polarwolf(GER) has left the game (leaving) 15:46:53 <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya 15:48:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can we replace the utility vans on th good trains with TEA tanker wagons? 15:48:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will make a difference of 175-110 =65 goods per train 15:48:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can wait for the goods rake to come out 15:49:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how many will that carry for a tl-6train? 15:49:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't know them all by heart, so... 15:49:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 180 15:49:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check train 340 15:49:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when will it come out? 15:49:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is out 15:50:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah, comined with bogie bolster? 15:50:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> looky here: 190 15:50:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> rake with TEA 15:51:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I guess we should manually replace them? 15:51:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I just did all that... 15:52:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Dont think you'll get over 190 with tl 6 15:52:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tl3 15:52:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 190 is most 15:52:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 rakes is better, but its 7 in depot 15:53:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know 15:53:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we could expand to TL4 15:53:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like train 140 15:53:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just for goods or all cargo? 15:53:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> would need to expand all stations to 4 tiles 15:53:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just goods 15:54:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> train 340 you mean 15:54:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 15:54:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that should be alright, i guess 15:54:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only 2 stations would need expanding 15:54:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how about the curves? 15:55:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as long as we use 100mpg/160km/h we can keep CL3 15:55:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what will that do? 15:55:56 <Stablean> <Vinnie> maybe @cl 15:55:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> trying to get the curve length calculator up 15:56:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> @cl 15:56:09 <Vinnie> @cl 15:56:09 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 15:56:10 <Chris_Booth> @cl 15:56:11 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 15:56:18 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 15:56:18 <Webster> Chris_Booth: (traincl <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo CL[math calc floor((-sqrt(231-min(231, ))+13)* (10**3))/(10.0**3)] required for rail at speed km/h (or TL if it's shorter)". 15:56:29 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 4 15:56:29 <Webster> CL -2.067 required for rail at speed 4km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:56:36 <Chris_Booth> @railcl 160 15:56:36 <Webster> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:56:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 4km/h? 15:56:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmmm 15:56:54 <V453000> @clcalc rail 4 15:56:54 <Webster> V453000: A rail Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles) gives a speed of 196km/h or 122mph 15:56:57 <V453000> there :P 15:57:22 <Chris_Booth> @clcacl rail 3 15:57:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hey, im going to force all good trains to stop after the goods drop, okay? 15:57:32 <Chris_Booth> @clcalc rail 3 15:57:32 <Webster> Chris_Booth: A rail Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 168km/h or 105mph 15:57:48 <Chris_Booth> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:57:50 <Chris_Booth> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:57:52 <Chris_Booth> WTF 15:58:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> CB? 15:58:17 <Chris_Booth> yes CL3 is fine for 160 15:58:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we can upgrade to 4 tile trains 15:58:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, in that case im forcing all trains to go in depot after goods drop... 15:59:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok 15:59:57 <V453000> careful about Sbends :P 16:00:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> goods drop extended to tl 4 16:03:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Train 341 is now AL6 instead of AL-1 16:05:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> CB, lets go for the new goods trains with AL-6, will be easier to discern from other trains with engines too 16:05:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, its slightly better 16:07:53 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok ppl im in public server for a while. cya later 16:07:56 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 16:09:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Fucking TF water Costs 16:13:43 *** greenlion has quit IRC 16:14:32 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:22:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> white would it be possible not to just cut down moutains? 16:27:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, i see a problem 16:27:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you do? 16:27:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where? 16:27:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains from great rufingwell woods/Wonningbury Woods/Drinnwell Coal mine 16:28:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they tend to go through Sardhattan east 16:28:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i think that is because 16:28:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at MSH 01 there isnt going a branch south 16:28:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I can see that 16:28:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> from !this side of coal drop 16:30:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is the mising link @ 1 - 2 16:30:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you fixed it? 16:31:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no not yet thinking about it 16:32:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> think that will fix it 16:37:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is even odder 16:37:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i followed one train 16:37:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but still trains jam up at Sardhattan East 16:37:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and? 16:37:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the train followed right path 16:37:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but did not use the bridges you built 16:39:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I just saw something, but I have to ask something to be sure: 16:39:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 16:39:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> prios dont let trains go wrong routes, do they? 16:39:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 16:40:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only if they are built wrong 16:40:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> than look at !this prio 16:40:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only 2 ways signals at a choice 16:40:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now that will cause an issue 16:40:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if the signal is red they are force to choose the 2 way path 16:41:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, there's the problem 16:43:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will fix it 16:44:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH 02 - BBH 04 is now open 16:44:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH 03 i mean 16:44:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yay 16:45:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we are going to need to double that 16:45:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D 16:48:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just MSH 01 - BBH 04 will do for now 16:49:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for all the factory traffic? 16:49:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its closed atm 16:49:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so yes 16:49:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know, i did that, to give you some extra space and time to work on it 16:52:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok 16:52:53 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 17:08:30 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 joined the game 17:08:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi 17:12:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we need to save now 17:25:44 <Stablean> *** Atoompje joined the game 17:25:48 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 17:26:06 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> hi 17:26:28 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has joined company #1 17:32:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Atoompje and DayDreamer you got any plans> 17:32:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ? 17:36:49 <Stablean> <Atoompje> ehm 17:36:51 <Stablean> <Atoompje> not yet 17:37:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well I need to finish the link upgrade at BBH 04 - MSH 01 17:42:04 <Stablean> <Atoompje> yeah 17:42:18 <Stablean> <Atoompje> we can move more to the west as well 17:42:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and we need a few million to finish the link from BBH 04 to MSH 03 17:42:52 <Stablean> <Atoompje> about 40 million yeah 17:51:00 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 17:51:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure WB 17:51:08 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 17:51:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 17:51:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have had some improvements 17:51:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> almost finished 17:51:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 17:51:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just run out of ££££ 17:51:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 04 - MSH 02 17:51:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is now running one way 17:51:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one side doubled and finished 17:51:49 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> how is having £6 million running out? xD 17:52:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's some water TFing 17:52:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when we need arround 50 - 75 million to finish the project 17:52:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have run out 17:52:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> couple of squares 17:53:12 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fail, spent £3 million demolishing some water -.- 17:53:18 <Stablean> <Atoompje> auch 17:53:26 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yep xD 17:53:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> We should move coal exit to !coal exit here 17:54:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and BBH 07 - BBH 04 need to be LLL_RRR 17:54:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wouldnt that make BBH 04 part of MSH 01 17:54:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but apart from that we are improving 17:54:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it would 17:58:02 <Stablean> <Atoompje> what is the difference between a MSH and a BBH? 17:58:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MSH has a big station in front of it 17:58:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Main Station Hub 17:58:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH = Main Staton Hub 17:58:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH = Back Bone Hub 17:59:03 <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok, but in the hub itself is builded the same as a BBH? 17:59:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH's are more Important than BBH's and sometimes Bigger 17:59:23 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:59:23 <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok:) 17:59:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Player 17:59:35 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 17:59:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you please change your name 18:00:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or shall we move the coal drop? 18:00:57 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has left the game (leaving) 18:01:40 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 18:02:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why move the coal drop? 18:02:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to remove the BBH 04 - BBH 01 bottle neck 18:03:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where'd you want it 18:03:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not thought about that yet 18:03:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, you want to triple BBH01-BBH07? 18:03:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes we do 18:04:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the thing with replacing coal drop is 18:04:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need a new line with heavy traffic 18:04:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes a brand new LL_RR line with hubs 18:05:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and we -apparently- dont want it running over BBh01-BBH04 18:05:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Running over BBH 01 - 04 is fine 18:05:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just not in the middle of them 18:07:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just at the moment as we can see BBH 03 -BBH 04 is a train park 18:07:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but not solely dependant of coal trains 18:07:47 <Stablean> <Atoompje> BBH03 - MSH01 i think 18:08:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who wanted to claim land when the factory at Sardhattan died? 18:08:33 <Stablean> <Atoompje> "solely depanded" means "not only"? 18:08:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there are coal trains running there 18:08:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bu imo they dont form problems 18:09:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they're the trains going to fac 18:09:20 <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh that way :) ok! 18:09:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which has little to do with BBH03-BBH04 18:09:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or BBH03-MSH01 18:10:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i asked a question 18:10:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> traffic there could be eased with a link between BBH 05 and BBH 08 18:10:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> someone put up a sign "claim land if dies" 18:10:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and now its dead 18:10:41 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 18:10:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where? 18:11:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @ Sardhattan 18:11:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh that was me 18:11:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ages ago 18:11:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, congrats 18:11:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it died :D 18:11:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but dont need it any more 18:11:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone allready made that line LL_RR 18:12:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but how would a line between BBH05 and BBH08 ease traffic at BBH03-BBH01-BBH02 18:14:10 <Chris_Booth> I think my network has died 18:19:59 <Chris_Booth> !ip 18:19:59 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: stable.openttdcoop.org:3999 18:20:48 <Chris_Booth> how can the server be there but yet it is now 18:20:50 <Chris_Booth> not 18:23:14 <Chris_Booth> !players 18:30:46 <DayDreamer> i cant connect too 18:32:22 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com 18:33:23 <Chris_Booth> ooh well its dead 18:33:32 <Chris_Booth> maybe someone will unkill it soon 18:35:35 <Ammler> hmm 18:35:42 <Ammler> server down? 18:35:48 <Ammler> !info 18:35:49 <Stablean> Ammler: http://stable.openttdcoop.org 18:35:52 <Ammler> !players 18:36:16 <Ammler> oh, it crashed 18:36:25 <Ammler> but it forgot to crash ap+ 18:37:05 <Ammler> http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/crash.log 18:37:13 <Chris_Booth> nice maybe AP+ need to have a check for that crash 18:37:31 <Ammler> SmatZ: planetmaker not helpful, I fear ^ ? 18:37:59 <Ammler> also the silly thing is that ap+ still runs 18:38:07 *** Stablean has quit IRC 18:38:24 <planetmaker> he 18:38:32 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:38:32 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 18:38:32 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:38:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 18:38:32 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.1.0-beta4 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation" 18:38:37 <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-) 18:38:49 <Ammler> !players 18:38:51 <Stablean> Ammler: There are currently no clients connected to the server 18:39:30 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 18:39:51 <Ammler> good save? 18:40:01 <Chris_Booth> that save is fine 18:40:05 <Chris_Booth> about 15 mins old 18:40:08 <Chris_Booth> but close enough 18:40:22 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 18:40:23 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:40:25 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings autosave 18:40:25 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 18:40:25 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave = 4 18:40:25 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.keep_all_autosave = off 18:40:25 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave_on_exit = off 18:40:25 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.max_num_autosaves = 255 18:40:26 <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message 18:40:35 <Ammler> yes, we do yearly saves 18:40:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I thought you did monthlys 18:41:19 <Ammler> yeah, hmm, why did we change that? 18:44:02 <Ammler> !server_status 18:44:02 <Stablean> Ammler: 18:44pm up 39 days 2:28, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.12, 0.04 18:44:03 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.2%sy, 1.8%ni, 97.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 18:44:03 <Stablean> Ammler: 2853 ottdc 30 10 35552 18m 4280 S 18 3.6 0:44.60 ./stable -c openttd 18:44:42 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 18:46:19 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 18:48:45 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:49:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> crash? 18:49:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 18:50:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what were we talking about 18:51:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> traffic jams 18:51:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how would a link between BBH05 and BBH08 help ease traffic? 18:51:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and how to solve them 18:51:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think trains would use it instead of going vie BBH 01 18:51:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> such as the Frennington South trains 18:52:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but BBH05 is already linked, via BBH07 to BBH08 18:54:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats the only station actualy 18:54:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it might be worth it for the Wanfield/Plafingley Market Farms 18:54:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the steel mill 18:54:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 18:55:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but then we seriously need connection between BBH04 and MSH2 18:55:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *MSH 03 18:55:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am building that ATM 18:55:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk 18:55:59 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 18:57:25 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 18:57:25 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:57:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 18:57:47 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 18:57:58 <Stablean> *** Atoompje joined the game 18:58:25 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 18:58:25 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:58:34 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 18:58:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 18:58:42 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has joined company #1 19:01:47 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:03:40 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 19:04:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice almost bridges the gap 19:05:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who is working on coal drop? 19:05:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> < 19:05:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just a hint ignor those lines until the end 19:05:46 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 19:06:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanted also to rotate the coal drop 19:06:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah good idea 19:10:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I saved you some space 19:10:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah , saw you doing it 19:11:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:11:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:11:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:12:03 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:12:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wb 19:12:12 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 19:12:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thx 19:13:58 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:15:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:15:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:16:01 <Stablean> <Atoompje> wb:p 19:16:01 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:16:03 <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh. 19:16:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:16:27 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 19:16:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 19:16:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we have a huge jam 19:16:52 <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol 19:17:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone added steel trains I think 19:17:09 <Stablean> <Atoompje> looks like it 19:19:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its moving now 19:22:50 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 19:25:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: what about the other half of the coal exit? 19:25:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> need to do this first right 19:25:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and somewhere ad a SC 19:26:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, like that one 19:26:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes that one 19:28:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok please build in medium speed rail 19:28:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just got 11million from it 19:28:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay 19:28:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its that much cheaper 19:31:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris, im getting in CL problems 19:31:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i was wondering if you have any thoughts on it 19:31:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> try that 19:31:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but you need 2 bridges 19:32:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, thatw ould work 19:33:39 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 19:33:44 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 19:33:48 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 19:34:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Vinnie not a great time to join 19:34:19 <Stablean> <Vinnie> why am i not welcome? 19:34:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> :P 19:34:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no just look at our jam 19:35:14 <Stablean> <Vinnie> dont use pbs to balance trains for a station and the jam will be fixed 19:35:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no don't jam all the steel trains 19:35:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then the factory will not drop its production 19:36:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why are the fac trains going to depot? 19:36:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> servcing them 19:36:55 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:37:18 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:37:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> did you see what V is building in public. will be nice 19:37:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:37:59 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:38:00 <Stablean> <Atoompje> on the srnw island? 19:38:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 19:38:14 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:38:14 <Stablean> <Atoompje> it look cool 19:38:20 <Stablean> <Atoompje> but what does it do?:p 19:38:38 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:38:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> its just a srnw where the overflow puts trains where they are needed 19:38:53 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 19:39:23 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:39:47 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:39:49 <Stablean> <Atoompje> cool! 19:39:49 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 19:39:57 <Stablean> <Vinnie> fixing steel pickup jam 19:40:02 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:40:08 <Stablean> <Atoompje> so that would require extra logic at every station? 19:40:14 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 19:40:22 <Stablean> <Vinnie> a counter on each station 19:40:46 <Stablean> <Vinnie> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/Comparer02+gate.sav 19:41:00 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:41:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> his save that made the concept 19:41:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:41:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:41:45 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 19:42:17 <Stablean> <Vinnie> steel is moving again 19:42:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:43:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal drop exit is creating some mayor problems 19:44:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah maybe we need to add a 3rd line arround to that soon 19:44:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to cook dinner 19:44:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but will be back soon 19:45:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and will work on it with someone 19:45:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can split traffic 1:1 at factory drop so only 50% of the trains drive teough the coal drop 19:45:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you can finish MSH 03 if it can be 19:45:43 <Stablean> *** {karol[pl]} joined the game 19:46:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or we could make is a 4 lane anti-clockwise loop 19:46:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that would fix all the problems 19:46:53 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah 19:46:59 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im in for that 19:47:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 01 - BBH 02 - MSH 02 4 lane anti clockwise loop 19:47:11 <Stablean> *** karol[pl] has left the game (leaving) 19:47:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> include BBH04 19:47:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we will have to work on MSH 02 a lot 19:47:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in BBH 04 19:48:11 <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets save 20 milj for the cash drop and start the changing 19:48:25 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:49:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what would help a bit in the mean time would be turning Ruwood Heights 19:49:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so it goes west rather than north 19:49:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> MSH01 should already get some entry lines at BBH04 and at BBH01 19:50:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MSH01-? not MSH03 19:50:11 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im talking about coal drop 19:50:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k 19:51:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> an easy quick fix would follow the line I am going to draw 19:51:05 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (general error) 19:51:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what would that be for? 19:52:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for the coal drop trains? 19:52:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it would be so all 4 lines can be made to do into BBH 04 and 01 in a loop 19:52:35 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i believe that is work that will become immediatly obsolete when we make it 4 lanes one way 19:52:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but that will be very cheap 19:53:21 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 joined the game 19:53:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know 19:53:39 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> how come OTTD coop went down? 19:53:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just a crash 19:53:52 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah 19:53:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think we have more on another Coal Drop bay 19:54:00 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we are playing beta. things can happen 19:54:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: it would if you made it one way 19:54:16 <Stablean> <Vinnie> Troy McClure: plz dont tf water 19:54:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i wanted to ask that: why are we still playing a beta 19:54:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its me 19:54:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh 19:54:34 <Stablean> <Atoompje> thanks for the link Vinnie. really interesting 19:54:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats my link to MSH 03 19:55:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> its great learning but the true learning will be when it works 19:55:45 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fail, just found a bit of track that wasn't set to very high speed -.- :L 19:55:51 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok CB i think we need to make a small network plan to get a good meaning of the mayor update we are gonna do 19:55:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> none of our net work is very high speed 19:56:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 19:56:08 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> all of mine is 19:56:14 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and this one was still at low speed 19:56:14 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 19:56:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you start that I am going to cook 19:58:41 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:59:12 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 19:59:29 <Stablean> <Atoompje> back in an hour 19:59:35 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ke 19:59:35 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has left the game (leaving) 19:59:49 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 20:01:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice full gridlock 20:01:35 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah 20:01:45 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we must start changing 20:02:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no just have the biggest jam in coop history 20:02:52 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can beat jams like this 20:04:06 <Stablean> <Vinnie> made a plan !Core network plan 20:04:33 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 20:05:06 <Stablean> <Vinnie> new BBH? 20:05:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, using old ones i guess 20:05:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 new BBHs 20:05:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 at additional BBH 20:05:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> entirely new BBH, or rebuillds? 20:05:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 near Pennford 20:05:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> brand new 20:05:55 <Stablean> <Vinnie> white has no pw 20:06:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can make a bit more room 20:06:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: no 20:06:14 <V453000> !date 20:06:15 <Stablean> V453000: 29 Mar 2008 20:06:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> white had a password, server crashed 20:06:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and lost them all 20:06:47 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yeah 20:06:54 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> mine had no password when I came back 20:07:09 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> which worried me that someone might've gone in and then ruined my setups xD 20:07:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ruined your setups xD 20:09:51 <Stablean> *** SirkoZ joined the game 20:10:57 <Stablean> <Vinnie> line in the middle of our core network should only be LR not mutch traffic 20:11:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> will need to be more than that 20:11:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all coal trains will use it 20:11:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and alot of farm trains 20:11:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> will need to be atleast LL_RR maybe even LLL_RRR 20:12:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so maybe it isnt a great idea 20:12:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need pieces to be LLL_RRR 20:12:20 <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal trains will use it one way. farms on the return will only use it if they head to north 20:12:40 <Stablean> <Vinnie> so LL_R 20:13:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> coal trains will need to use it 20:13:06 <Stablean> *** jujuberlin94 joined the game 20:13:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> most farms come from south and will head trough BBH04] 20:13:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal trains are ok now with 2 lines. so maybe 3 20:13:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Still, between BBH03and BBH01 20:14:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you'll probably need 3 lanes each way 20:14:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no we are building a 4 lane anticlockwise loop 20:14:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> what you guys are saying that the whole networks needs redoing 20:14:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: the new route isn't realy needed 20:14:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> you sugested new route :) 20:15:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I changed my mind 20:15:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just makes tomany short cuts 20:15:14 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we just make a bypass at facory for coal trains 20:15:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, i think its a silly idea to have a fac on a small island like we do 20:15:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is half a bypass there 20:16:11 <Stablean> <Vinnie> next game we will do it better Troy McClure:) 20:17:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i would like to apologize for that landbridge earlier in terms of obeying rules 20:17:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it does carry the traffic needed 20:19:25 <Stablean> *** jujuberlin94 has left the game (leaving) 20:19:57 <Stablean> <Vinnie> All BBH in the core must be redone but will be easier :) 20:20:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> last piece of MSH 03 done 20:22:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> guys, how about half a BBH between !here and !here 20:23:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> first we must fix the core 20:25:22 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 20:25:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> afk for a sec 20:26:27 <Stablean> *** SirkoZ has left the game (leaving) 20:29:09 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy joined the game 20:29:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok BBH 01 - BBH 02 is now closed 20:29:37 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hi 20:29:43 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 20:29:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 20:29:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi 20:30:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahh some signals :) 20:30:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so work can begin of that lin 20:30:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> line 20:30:52 <Stablean> <Vinnie> at\\ 20:30:56 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 20:31:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im gonna get a beer and start. can someone in the meantime increase the gaps at MSH03 20:31:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> signal gap? 20:34:09 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 20:35:13 <Stablean> <Vinnie> might be better if we send trains to peots 20:35:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we got a deadlock soon 20:35:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> depots 20:35:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it will be fine 20:35:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where would that deadlock be? 20:35:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just work on 1 setion at a time 20:35:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its working better since BBH 01 is closed 20:36:06 <Stablean> <Vinnie> From BBH2 to BBH03 and then back around BBH1 20:38:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ML done between BBH01 -02 20:39:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, the old factory died, i see 20:39:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: please use 160 km/h rail 20:39:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its very much cheaper 20:40:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im only signaling 20:40:10 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy has left the game (connection lost) 20:40:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you built some high speed rail 20:40:40 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh 20:40:44 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy joined the game 20:42:28 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 20:43:27 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Think the tunnnels next to Slinningstone (DIE sign) can be shortened now 20:43:34 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i want to shut down MSH03 to BBH02 so i can complete BBH02 20:43:36 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *Slonningstone 20:46:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok train are now usings an LL outer loop 20:47:22 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 20:47:38 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 20:47:53 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 20:48:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 20:48:34 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 20:49:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 20:49:21 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 20:49:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> who else is changing network? 20:49:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> me 20:49:51 <Stablean> <Vinnie> BBH02 done 20:49:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am wokring on Ruwood Hieghts 20:49:54 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 20:50:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but currently its a huge jam 20:50:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i vote to depot 50% of the trains. 20:50:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> or only goods 20:50:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 20:50:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will be fine 20:50:43 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 20:51:52 <Stablean> *** fpk joined the game 20:56:12 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:47 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 joined the game 20:58:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MHS 03 has to wait of more money 20:58:40 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I think a lot of your routes are very ineficient Yellows 20:58:51 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> looking at the stuff laying around in the stations, unused 20:58:51 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 20:58:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no they are not 20:59:43 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> stations with 250+ of anything strikes me as inefficient/underused xD 21:00:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are rebuilding a large amount 21:00:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what shall i do with Ruwood Heights Vinnie? 21:01:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> its in the way 21:01:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very much so 21:01:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, a sham to let 873 ton mine bleed to death 21:02:01 <Stablean> <Vinnie> fix network and then find a new solution to connect it? 21:02:01 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Tunnel under it? 21:02:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok 21:03:04 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD are you intending to use that coal mine at any point? xD 21:03:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:03:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 21:03:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 21:03:18 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> XD 21:03:18 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:03:50 <Stablean> <V453000> elo 21:03:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:03:54 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> hi 21:03:54 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hihi 21:03:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 21:03:56 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ]Hi V 21:07:55 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fpk what have you done xD 21:08:19 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Dont use ships :P 21:08:23 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:08:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, dont use ships 21:08:33 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> catastrophic error, bye-bye company 21:08:45 *** Vinnie_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:08:57 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I think there should be a warning about ships for new players... 21:09:09 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> or they should just set the value to 0 straight off 21:09:12 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> that and planes 21:09:17 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Or that... 21:09:32 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:09:42 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> they've set it to 5, why 5 not 0 ? xD 21:10:02 <Stablean> <V453000> anyone can bankrupt their company and be bought by another 21:10:09 <Stablean> <V453000> -> they could join together and cooperate 21:10:15 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah :) 21:10:17 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh yeah done that before 21:10:25 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> makes sense now 21:10:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> cB the loop for coal drop should be other way around. now trains travel to below the coal drop twice 21:10:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any better ideas for Ruwood Hieghts? 21:10:43 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#6) 21:10:43 <Stablean> <Vinnie> none atm 21:10:59 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 21:11:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> roro side ways 21:11:06 <Stablean> <V453000> how affordable is the very high speed rail? 21:11:08 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> why start that company then leave it? xD 21:11:14 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and not very 21:11:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not affordable 21:11:20 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> By the lack of use not very im guessing 21:11:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but that would be prone to jams 21:11:22 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I only use it, but 21:11:32 <Stablean> *** fpk has joined spectators 21:11:40 <Stablean> <V453000> well, white people have 459 M :) 21:11:42 <Stablean> *** fpk has left the game (connection lost) 21:11:46 <Stablean> <V453000> I suppose terraforming water did something :p 21:11:48 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 21:11:53 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:12:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:12:06 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i dont know what you are talking about 21:12:16 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol awww fpk 21:12:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who talking? 21:12:31 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> You better sell those ships luke 21:12:39 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> there are none 21:12:43 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> he'd already junked them 21:12:45 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> but too late 21:12:47 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:12:49 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh xD 21:12:59 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> else I'd have joined his company and done it there 21:13:01 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:13:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we shoul reverse coal drop 21:13:13 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I'm getting used to buying failed companies on this server 21:13:15 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:13:17 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol 21:13:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> agree CB 21:13:27 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just make the coal drop one way split? 21:14:35 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 21:14:43 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> this train route was very good as well, only needed a little modifying xD 21:15:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at our jam now :D 21:15:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we need cheap fixes 21:15:27 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> the train made £86k last year, now I've sped up the track and fitted a faster engine... xD 21:16:01 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh fpk left 21:16:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who's working on the coal drop site 21:16:15 <Stablean> <Vinnie> me 21:16:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are those trains supposed to enter lateron? 21:16:23 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we im working on MSH 21:16:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:16:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> clockwise 21:16:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ? 21:16:39 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just split the line? 21:17:45 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yellow, I love how inconsistent your trains are, using AL1 and AL6s xD 21:17:53 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> why not just use AL6s? xD 21:17:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, thats very consistent 21:18:03 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> oooh fighting talk 21:18:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will use AL 10 in the end 21:18:11 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah xD 21:18:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at one point, we were replacing the goods trains 21:18:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> from tl 3 to tl4 21:18:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i manually reset the new goods trains to AL6 21:18:47 <Stablean> <Vinnie> when will we do the change on coal drop 21:18:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> slightly better, but... 21:18:52 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I just run Class 91s, apart from one passenger Pendolino xD 21:18:59 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> but then I have very high speed track xP 21:19:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not worth replacing the AL1s with AL6 21:19:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will do it now 21:19:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when it unjams 21:19:17 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> higher tractive effort tho 21:19:20 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and same running cost 21:19:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> again, slightly better 21:19:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 225/259 aint much 21:19:46 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> still, a slight increase in profits 21:19:48 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> which is always good 21:19:50 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:20:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but its not worth having a jam for 6 months over it 21:20:08 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> true 21:20:29 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I'm running Class 91s and already have the track down 21:20:31 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I have no issues anywhere xD 21:21:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH04 will be a mostly T-Split right? 21:21:29 <Stablean> <Vinnie> im gonna merge BBH and MSH01. so we dont have to join and immideatly split 21:21:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH01? 21:22:05 <Stablean> <Vinnie> East of future coal exit 21:23:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with Tilt we can increase out TL 4 trains to 201km/h using the Pendolion 21:23:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what do with think? 21:23:46 <Stablean> <Vinnie> easy on the money ppl 21:23:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am just testing 21:24:18 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> you guys used to make about £15 million income a few years back 21:24:24 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> clearly something went wrong somewhere xD 21:24:32 <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got money Lukeno94 21:24:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no we are rebuilding our netowork 21:24:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once we have finished it will be over 15million 21:24:55 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah xD 21:25:10 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> mine might hit £2 million by the time I'm done tweaking and adding stuff 21:25:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you check out our network you will see it is now 4 lanes between our coal drop and factory area 21:25:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 21:26:01 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> your network is immense xD mine are all fairly basic 21:26:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but this is as a replacement for BBH04 21:26:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BTW all coal in depots 21:26:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k 21:26:18 <Stablean> <Vinnie> change it 21:26:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> change what? 21:26:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> first the entry ? 21:26:36 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Why not build more complex networks then luke? They are good to look at once functioning 21:27:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at all that space :D 21:27:57 <V453000> Lukeno94: if you want to start making things nicer, try setting your main stations - like your network has only 1 power plant, only 1 factory and so on. And connect everything together :) rest goes with time 21:28:16 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> And no one train per line :) 21:28:28 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> unfortunately that's the way I've always built xD 21:28:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we all used to build like that 21:28:42 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and I can make those work, any of the big complicated ones I fail at 21:28:54 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I end up spending billions making them work 21:28:54 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:29:11 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just build two lines and cross them at the ends, simple :P 21:29:36 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 21:29:44 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD I tend to sacrifice that for the stations to fit better 21:31:11 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Jam in Factory drop or intentional? 21:31:21 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 21:32:07 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:36:31 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 21:36:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 21:38:47 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> YES, income over £2 million now for trains xD 21:39:50 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has joined company #2 21:40:08 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has joined company #3 21:40:13 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> feeling charitable xD 21:40:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Lukeno94: that isnt your company 21:40:17 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Shouldnt that company have a pass? 21:40:25 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I know, and yes, probably 21:40:35 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I just gave them something to boost a wood supply very slightly 21:40:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes but a server reset reset there pass 21:40:45 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> well, yeah 21:40:47 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh 21:40:50 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> all the passes got reset 21:40:58 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> coop and I then remade ours 21:40:58 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:42:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how are those 4 lines going to turn 90? 21:42:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> agreed? 21:43:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can we just remove Genpool Oil Refinery :D 21:44:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all those whit lines 21:44:13 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> this isn't singleplayer 21:44:15 <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD 21:48:44 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has left the game (connection lost) 21:49:22 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 joined the game 21:50:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need a few million "£ 21:51:07 <Stablean> <Vinnie> we are at a stable 6 milj for a few years 21:52:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris 21:52:13 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has left the game (connection lost) 21:52:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> arent !these lines 21:52:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> potentially going the same direction as !those 21:53:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:53:08 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 joined the game 21:53:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> maybe remove these 21:53:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you want to keep it this way? 21:53:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and make those to all 4 tracks 21:53:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that would cut in space 21:53:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, at !those 21:53:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im anticipating hookup from other lines 21:54:01 <Stablean> *** Lukeno94 has left the game (leaving) 21:54:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the MSH-03 exit 21:54:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *01 21:55:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for which trains is that? 21:57:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> split all 4 lines? 21:57:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:58:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> right, there, after the water? 21:58:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: after the water yes 21:58:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you missed some lines in BBH 04 21:58:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> make an x after the bridge so you got the sl exit 22:00:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont think i can make that entry there 22:00:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but... 22:01:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's already a split at Ruwood Heights 22:02:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no response? 22:03:01 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> The second line splitting SW @ Genpool is missing some signals, and should be connected to the second split since 3 lines are using 1 while the other is only used by one 22:03:28 <Stablean> <Vinnie> sound like an expert :) 22:03:34 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I am :P 22:03:42 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Well not an expert but meh 22:04:43 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Its good to watch others build sometimes can learn stuff :P 22:04:55 <Stablean> <Vinnie> wanna help? 22:05:02 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Nah im doing work atm 22:05:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I cant do that entry right after the water 22:05:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> maybe its me 22:05:30 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Got OTTD open in another window its distracting :P 22:05:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, i dont see it on the !core map 22:06:28 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just use Ruwood split then troy? A dedicated line for coal with splits to the ML sounds like it would have benefits 22:06:34 <Stablean> <Vinnie> may i start 22:06:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes you may 22:06:42 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Either that or spend a lot of ££ on TF 22:07:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrMouthy, you've seen the !core network plan 22:07:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ? 22:07:26 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Yes 22:07:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im getting from that that it would be a looop around 22:07:45 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Ruwood split would fulfill that 22:07:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with an entry about where MSH01 exit is now 22:08:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and exit where !those is now 22:08:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, i would think that too 22:08:10 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Yep 22:08:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I would like to see Vinnie try 22:09:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hardest one done 22:09:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but now you have to fit the others in 22:10:15 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Us PBS @ X, so that two trains can go through without stopping? 22:10:20 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *Use 22:10:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you wouldnt want that 22:10:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because you eliminate the use of the double bridge 22:11:00 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> If a coal train is on the left bridge and another type on the right they could both go straight? 22:11:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even though, you're doing that now actually too 22:11:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is right 22:11:22 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Thats what i said? :P 22:11:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lets try if i get any critique from my fellow players if i do that 22:12:00 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I dont see why 22:12:08 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Improves throughput 22:12:36 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *(When used by coal trains aswell) :P 22:13:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this network is prity mental for a stable game 22:13:28 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Uh Huh 22:13:49 <Stablean> <Vinnie> only the outer one i can+t find a solution for 22:13:59 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Split just after blue bridge? 22:14:01 <Stablean> <Vinnie> tf later 22:14:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well 22:14:19 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Not blue bridge but those bridges 22:14:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the one can join @here 22:14:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the other can split $here 22:14:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes i know 22:15:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats why im saying it instead of doing it 22:15:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> so we skip it for now 22:15:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> those lines can't be used any way 22:16:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: how are you going to connect in those 4 lines from BBH 01 - BBH 04? 22:16:38 <Stablean> <Vinnie> redo BBH 04 22:16:48 <Stablean> <Vinnie> its a bit wrong now 22:16:55 <Stablean> <Vinnie> imo 22:17:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I dont like the merges 22:17:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but it would suffice 22:17:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what kind of traffic would those 4 lines have to carry? 22:17:25 <Stablean> <Vinnie> my merges? 22:17:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> all farms + goods + steel 22:17:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> farm traffic 22:17:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so what traffic would there be from BBH03? 22:17:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> goods and steel will be on the far 2 lines that are in use now 22:18:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> that are now cramped to the 2 lines at BBH04 22:19:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they should be going to BBH06? 22:19:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what should? 22:19:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those 4 ML lines 22:19:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 and MSH 03 22:20:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since its the only link to BBH 02 22:21:34 <Stablean> <Vinnie> AL10 :) 22:21:40 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> :P 22:22:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is what those lines need to carry 22:28:13 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Umm build bridges @ needs bridges :P Since trains are using it now 22:28:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> money... 22:28:39 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh 22:29:27 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:30:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok coal trains are back 22:31:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, ive managed to hook 2 of those 4lines 22:32:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now 22:32:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see you guy tomorrow 22:32:08 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> BB 22:32:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye 22:34:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya 22:35:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cya 22:35:35 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 22:37:16 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok im done for today 22:37:22 <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya tommorow 22:37:24 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Bye 22:37:28 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 22:41:10 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Meh gonna go now aswell gotta focus on my coursework >_> 22:41:12 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> BB 22:41:26 <Stablean> *** Atoompje joined the game 22:41:34 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy has left the game (connection lost) 22:45:43 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi 22:45:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 22:52:30 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has left the game (connection lost) 22:52:40 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 22:53:32 <Stablean> *** Atoompje joined the game 22:54:03 <Stablean> <Atoompje> MSH3 looks so much better now! 22:54:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, its working now 22:54:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but im still far from pleased 22:55:15 <Stablean> <Atoompje> the pickup is horrible 22:55:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, just the pickup 22:57:57 <Stablean> *** Atoompje has joined company #1 23:00:21 <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok, its horrible 23:02:50 <Stablean> *** Xed joined the game 23:03:05 <Stablean> <Xed> hi 23:03:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 23:03:20 <Stablean> <Atoompje> hey 23:04:56 <Stablean> *** Xed has joined company #4 23:10:28 <Stablean> <Atoompje> :O 23:10:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, my bad 23:11:04 <Stablean> <Atoompje> dont forget to but them again 23:11:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really in th emood for it 23:11:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> seems kinda pointless too 23:11:45 <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok 23:13:44 <Stablean> *** Xed has joined spectators 23:15:43 <Stablean> *** Xed has left the game (leaving) 23:20:55 <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol 23:26:01 <Stablean> *** Dennis Heinz joined the game 23:28:53 <Stablean> *** Dennis Heinz has left the game (leaving) 23:39:23 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 23:40:22 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 23:40:51 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 23:42:18 <Stablean> <Atoompje> wb 23:43:46 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1