Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 24th January 2011:
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00:04:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> better?
00:04:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
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00:04:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> will you stay long tonight
00:04:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
00:05:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> jam at BBH02 and if we leave now it pauses and i fix it in this state tommorow
00:05:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> needs expanding
00:06:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really in the mood for it atm
00:06:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> me nether
00:06:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im going to sleep for the last time goodnight
00:06:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> gn
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02:46:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ask for it
02:46:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but since i didnt start it, im not really comfortable about giving it
02:47:02  <Stablean> <Kejhic> hmm, truly coop :-)
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07:20:43  <DayDreamer> good morning
07:20:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
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07:21:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> troy did a landbridge near factory drop :(
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07:29:12  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> heh BSOD :(
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08:10:41  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> we might replace mineral wangons with new ones
08:11:28  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> some trains have wagons with low capapcity
08:11:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> change carrages for all type of trains?
08:17:22  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> would be best to change it .. AL is strong enough to handle heavy wagoons .. that is my opinion
08:22:53  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> afk
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08:24:00  <V453000> !date
08:24:11  <V453000> I suppose you already have the bogie bolsters for wood eh
08:24:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no wood V
08:24:24  <V453000> good :)
08:24:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> german comp took all wood near us
08:24:33  <V453000> because for those there are better wagons coming later
08:25:13  <V453000> so if you plan to get wood, get the small wagons I recommend :P or when the OTA Wood wagons are available, then those :)
08:25:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is a landbridge proper design?
08:25:56  <V453000> hm?
08:26:36  <V453000> thats just a type of bridge, itself has nothing to do with proper, only if works/not, eventually gap too long yes/no
08:26:49  <DayDreamer1> capacity of the OTA and bogie is same .. you can more OTA with lower capcacity or less bogie with higher capacity .. dont you think?
08:27:02  <DayDreamer1> *you can use
08:27:16  <V453000> DD: OTA has more in total
08:27:28  <DayDreamer1> in TL3?
08:27:29  <V453000> I am not entirely sure if bogie actually has more than 25
08:27:30  <V453000> yes
08:28:08  <V453000> bogies have just the refit advantage ... and they are for steel primarily :)
08:28:32  <V453000> not sure about loading times, and they might be faster with wagon speed limits on
08:30:10  <V453000> Bogie Bolster: 130, OTA Timber Truck: 150
08:30:16  <V453000> tonnes per TL3 with one AL10
08:30:31  <DayDreamer1> :)
08:31:01  <V453000> bogie bolster: 5x 26, OTA Timber Truck 6x 25
08:31:03  <V453000> :)
08:31:38  <V453000> now im off because I just came up with something crazy \o/
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08:34:53  <Stablean> <V453000> bankruptcy? :)
08:34:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> not yet
08:35:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> tf wate :)
08:35:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> water
08:35:11  <Stablean> <V453000> well you just wasted some trains :P
08:35:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i'm trying to fix a jam :)
08:35:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I realised :)
08:37:33  <Stablean> <V453000> the grey rails are kinda nice :)
08:37:43  <Stablean> <V453000> at least as a change :)
08:37:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> white rails are in the way :)
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09:33:11  <V453000> Vinnie: got a new logic thing :D
09:33:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> on public?
09:33:32  <V453000> not yet
09:33:36  <V453000> so far only in SP :)
09:33:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> SRNW?
09:33:49  <V453000> will be applied there, yes :)
09:34:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohhh exited
09:34:01  <V453000> it is for the Sbahn style dsrnw
09:34:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> exiting
09:34:17  <V453000> I was thinking how to make the overflow there, because without an overflow it is kinda sucky srnw
09:34:31  <V453000> and overflow will be needed when we want to service all stations well
09:34:53  <V453000> so I though: lets release trains to the station where the least amount of trains arrived in the last time period
09:34:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so you use it for the SBahn/ ICE Island
09:34:59  <V453000> no
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09:35:17  <V453000> the SRNW mazur wrote about
09:35:27  <V453000> on 05
09:35:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ke
09:35:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i also had some tought about mzur part
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09:36:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but my idea would be a srnw within a srnw
09:36:19  <V453000> and I just made a mechanism that is able to say which station got the least amount of trains in the last period, and then release trains to the right part :)
09:36:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> an inner loop is used for that ?
09:37:04  <V453000> there is no inner loop
09:37:16  <V453000> the overflow will need one central depot with connections to all stations
09:37:39  <V453000> which could have a loop as well, but .. :)
09:37:44  <V453000> the same point
09:37:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah so i would create an inner loop with an overflow buffer to each station. release the buffer when triggered
09:38:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> when 1 buffer gets empty release train from depot
09:38:20  <V453000> yes, pretty much
09:38:27  <V453000> more of a problem was the releaser to me :P
09:38:40  <V453000> now it will be ok, I will just need to see how small/HUGE can it bbe
09:38:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wires from each station :)
09:38:56  <V453000> not only wires :D each station gets a counter
09:39:43  <V453000> which is about 12x15 tiles x.X
09:39:52  <V453000> plus 1 larger gate ...
09:40:25  <V453000> will be fun to get it on that island ... will make it filled head to toe D:
09:41:12  <Vinnie> I wouldnt use a counter. the last station always get the least amount of trains so i would trigger the overflow by empty platform and trains underway to each station
09:41:33  <V453000> that is more complicated than you think :)
09:41:49  <Vinnie> not how i would do it :)
09:42:03  <Vinnie> i shall make a sp example
09:42:14  <V453000> :)
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11:19:13  <DayDreamer> !players
11:19:15  <Stablean> DayDreamer: Client 166 is Chris Booth, a spectator
11:19:29  <DayDreamer> hello Chris
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11:40:32  <Stablean> <V453000> elo
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12:02:56  <Vinnie> !players
12:02:59  <Stablean> Vinnie: Client 166 is Chris Booth, a spectator
12:02:59  <Stablean> Vinnie: Client 171 (Pink) is Farrusco, in company 5 (Farrusco Transport)
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12:03:27  <DayDreamer> !info
12:03:27  <Stablean> DayDreamer:
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13:18:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
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13:23:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
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13:24:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i improved some lines today
13:26:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to build an SLH  near Genpool Coal Mine
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13:35:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
13:35:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
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13:48:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now just Wonningbury Woods needs and SLH
13:51:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the ML @ BBH 06 must be the shortst ML on the map
13:51:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why
13:51:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 - SLH 06
13:51:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 7 tiles
13:52:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
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13:53:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Troy McClure: please go to sign !troy
13:53:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes?
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13:54:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replaced the bridges with 2x2 lanes
13:54:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why are we using land bridges Vinnie?
13:54:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is that against the rules?
13:54:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
13:55:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I do have an explanation
13:55:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for a 20 -ish gap, you need 5 bridges per lane
13:55:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> build and island in the middle
13:55:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or maybe 2
13:56:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we only have room for 8 in total
13:56:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its cheaper and looks nicer
13:56:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we would need 4x5 = 20 bridges
13:57:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> want me to lose the land bridges again?
13:58:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok my making Spagetti is now finished
13:59:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahh shit
13:59:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
14:00:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 5 minutes madness :(
14:02:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did anyone else order spegetti?
14:02:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> shall we expand to new part of map and make some spagetti?
14:02:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:02:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have 2 MLs that are not linked
14:03:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> south of SLH 06 and East of BBH 06
14:03:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
14:03:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 - BBH 07 link?
14:04:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:04:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
14:04:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets do it
14:07:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shall we build a BBSLH @ here?
14:07:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so its 4 ways
14:07:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh nice idea
14:07:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> spagetti
14:07:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes kinda like SLH 06
14:12:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> die factrory die
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14:14:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello Polarwolf(GER)
14:14:37  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hello again
14:15:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice sweet spot :)
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14:20:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was just about to point that out
14:24:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> a sl with a SLH behind it?
14:24:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> both the coal mines need a connection
14:24:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not me
14:24:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not necesssary?
14:24:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its an SL
14:25:15  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> what'S the meaning of SL and SLH is there a faQ or something like this, where i can read about ?
14:25:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Side line
14:25:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Side line hub
14:25:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie>
14:25:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> openttdcoop wiki
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14:28:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:28:29  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hello
14:28:31  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hey
14:28:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
14:30:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: one of your die signs worked!
14:30:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, that was me
14:30:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> had hoped it worked
14:35:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> We now have an ML south/west of Drinnwell
14:35:09  <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol white, what happend to your income?
14:35:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replacing trains i guess...
14:35:35  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> Yes Sir
14:35:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no hejamed his goods pickup
14:36:09  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> no the Goods pick up was never stop
14:36:23  <Stablean> <Atoompje> i can use some improvements
14:36:25  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> one part run every time
14:36:36  <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh ok:)
14:38:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> White if you let me join
14:38:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can fix you siganls
14:38:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to make trains use both depots
14:39:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> also you know breakdowns are off so you don't need depots
14:40:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Do we really want to continue the ML at the Future Bridge Point?
14:40:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I did want to link it to BBH 04
14:41:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so there was a better route to to factory
14:41:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> would need a huge rebuild
14:41:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but our friend his station is in the way :)
14:41:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> he does
14:42:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the lines can be ditched now
14:42:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because we might be able to expand Factory area if we dont need all those extra lines...
14:43:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: just delete them the cost to brigde the sea there will be huge and white is in the way
14:43:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that means BBH 04 can go aswell
14:43:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we do have another option: move the factory dropoff etc
14:43:28  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> Ruwood ?
14:43:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes Ruwood
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14:45:48  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> better ?
14:45:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
14:46:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok looks like full rebuild is called for then
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14:47:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no It will be an ML link
14:47:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:48:19  <Stablean> <Atoompje> going home - cya in an hour
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14:51:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok now lets build a complete new factory and station
14:51:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tot he West on that island
14:51:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stop all traffic?
14:51:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
14:51:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> keep traffic moving
14:51:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats why we build a new station
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14:56:19  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi
14:56:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:56:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi DayDreamer
14:57:00  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> hi
14:58:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok new exit built
14:58:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need to save a bit for the end of the bridges
15:02:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: can you start building the new drop / pickup @ the factroy
15:02:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're still working on the MSH?
15:03:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, but we can build 2 things at once
15:03:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I just wanted and Idea on the space we have
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15:03:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> while we are saving to finish
15:03:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 lanes of exit for both pickup and dropoff?
15:03:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
15:04:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can move it
15:04:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> doesnt have to be where it is
15:04:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just where I finished
15:04:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk
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15:09:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does that give you a general idea?
15:09:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah
15:09:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you finish it
15:09:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then we can move the trains
15:09:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I will  build the other half of the MSH
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15:11:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just trying to keep tabs on what is what
15:11:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we don't get confused
15:16:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok lets send all trains to depots
15:16:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and start the move
15:16:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why to depots?
15:16:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cant you just put in the new orders?
15:17:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we dont miss any when we change the orders
15:17:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can just check in the old factory drop menu
15:17:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just factory trains
15:17:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> besides, we still need a hook on
15:17:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and gives us space to work on the new junction
15:25:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can we release the trains again?
15:25:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
15:26:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> here we go...
15:27:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its finished
15:28:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just need to build the MSH - BBH 04 link
15:28:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> need to double it probably too
15:28:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no
15:28:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains now go BBH01-BBH02
15:28:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but they will be going BBH01-MSH01-BBH04 then
15:28:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wont they?
15:29:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not all of the,
15:29:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> from BBH 04 there is noentry possible to drop
15:29:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no entry
15:29:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so only some will return via BBH 04
15:29:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not yet
15:29:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not entire BBH?
15:29:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but there will be
15:30:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> missing 1 link
15:34:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice jam
15:34:13  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> where ;)
15:34:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> at our coal drop
15:34:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> trains went to that depot
15:34:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's because of locking the factory trains up and releasing them at once
15:35:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i've already made a sloppy bypass for those trains
15:35:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it will unjam
15:35:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes it will
15:46:36  <Stablean> <Polarwolf(GER)> cya
15:46:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
15:46:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye
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15:46:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
15:48:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can we replace the utility vans on th good trains with TEA tanker wagons?
15:48:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will make a difference of 175-110 =65 goods per train
15:48:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can wait for the goods rake to come out
15:49:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how many will that carry for a tl-6train?
15:49:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't know them all by heart, so...
15:49:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 180
15:49:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check train 340
15:49:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when will it come out?
15:49:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is out
15:50:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah, comined with bogie bolster?
15:50:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> looky here: 190
15:50:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> rake with TEA
15:51:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I guess we should manually replace them?
15:51:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I just did all that...
15:52:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Dont think you'll get over 190 with tl 6
15:52:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tl3
15:52:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 190 is most
15:52:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 rakes is better, but its 7 in depot
15:53:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know
15:53:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we could expand to TL4
15:53:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like train 140
15:53:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just for goods or all cargo?
15:53:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> would need to expand all stations to 4 tiles
15:53:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just goods
15:54:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> train 340 you mean
15:54:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
15:54:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that should be alright, i guess
15:54:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only 2 stations would need expanding
15:54:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how about the curves?
15:55:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as long as we use 100mpg/160km/h we can keep CL3
15:55:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what will that do?
15:55:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> maybe @cl
15:55:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> trying to get the curve length calculator up
15:56:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> @cl
15:56:09  <Vinnie> @cl
15:56:09  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
15:56:10  <Chris_Booth> @cl
15:56:11  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
15:56:18  <Chris_Booth> @railcl
15:56:18  <Webster> Chris_Booth: (traincl <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo CL[math calc floor((-sqrt(231-min(231, ))+13)* (10**3))/(10.0**3)] required for rail at speed km/h (or TL if it's shorter)".
15:56:29  <Chris_Booth> @railcl 4
15:56:29  <Webster> CL -2.067 required for rail at speed 4km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
15:56:36  <Chris_Booth> @railcl 160
15:56:36  <Webster> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
15:56:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 4km/h?
15:56:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmmm
15:56:54  <V453000> @clcalc rail 4
15:56:54  <Webster> V453000: A rail Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles) gives a speed of 196km/h or 122mph
15:56:57  <V453000> there :P
15:57:22  <Chris_Booth> @clcacl rail 3
15:57:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hey, im going to force all good trains to stop after the goods drop, okay?
15:57:32  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc rail 3
15:57:32  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A rail Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 168km/h or 105mph
15:57:48  <Chris_Booth> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
15:57:50  <Chris_Booth> CL 4.573 required for rail at speed 160km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
15:57:52  <Chris_Booth> WTF
15:58:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> CB?
15:58:17  <Chris_Booth> yes CL3 is fine for 160
15:58:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so we can upgrade to 4 tile trains
15:58:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, in that case im forcing all trains to go in depot after goods drop...
15:59:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
15:59:57  <V453000> careful about Sbends :P
16:00:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> goods drop extended to tl 4
16:03:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Train 341 is now AL6 instead of AL-1
16:05:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> CB, lets go for the new goods trains with AL-6, will be easier to discern from other trains with engines too
16:05:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, its slightly better
16:07:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok ppl im in public server for a while. cya later
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16:09:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Fucking TF water Costs
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16:22:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> white would it be possible not to just cut down moutains?
16:27:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, i see a problem
16:27:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you do?
16:27:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
16:27:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains from great rufingwell woods/Wonningbury Woods/Drinnwell Coal mine
16:28:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they tend to go through Sardhattan east
16:28:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i think that is because
16:28:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at MSH 01 there isnt going a branch south
16:28:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I can see that
16:28:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> from !this side of coal drop
16:30:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is the mising link @ 1 - 2
16:30:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you fixed it?
16:31:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no not yet thinking about it
16:32:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> think that will fix it
16:37:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is even odder
16:37:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i followed one train
16:37:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but still trains jam up at Sardhattan East
16:37:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and?
16:37:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the train followed right path
16:37:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but did not use the bridges you built
16:39:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I just saw something, but I have to ask something to be sure:
16:39:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
16:39:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> prios dont let trains go wrong routes, do they?
16:39:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
16:40:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only if they are built wrong
16:40:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> than look at !this prio
16:40:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only 2 ways signals at a choice
16:40:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now that will cause an issue
16:40:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if the signal is red they are force to choose the 2 way path
16:41:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, there's the problem
16:43:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will fix it
16:44:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH 02 - BBH 04 is now open
16:44:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH 03 i mean
16:44:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yay
16:45:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we are going to need to double that
16:45:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D
16:48:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just MSH 01 - BBH 04 will do for now
16:49:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for all the factory traffic?
16:49:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its closed atm
16:49:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so yes
16:49:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know, i did that, to give you some extra space and time to work on it
16:52:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
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17:08:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
17:12:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we need to save now
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17:25:48  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
17:26:06  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> hi
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17:32:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Atoompje and DayDreamer you got any plans>
17:32:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ?
17:36:49  <Stablean> <Atoompje> ehm
17:36:51  <Stablean> <Atoompje> not yet
17:37:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well I need to finish the link upgrade at BBH 04 - MSH 01
17:42:04  <Stablean> <Atoompje> yeah
17:42:18  <Stablean> <Atoompje> we can move more to the west as well
17:42:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and we need a few million to finish the link from BBH 04 to MSH 03
17:42:52  <Stablean> <Atoompje> about 40 million yeah
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17:51:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure WB
17:51:08  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
17:51:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
17:51:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have had some improvements
17:51:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> almost finished
17:51:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
17:51:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just run out of ££££
17:51:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 04 - MSH 02
17:51:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is now running one way
17:51:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one side doubled and finished
17:51:49  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> how is having  £6 million running out? xD
17:52:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's some water TFing
17:52:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when we need arround 50 - 75 million to finish the project
17:52:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have run out
17:52:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> couple of squares
17:53:12  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fail, spent £3 million demolishing some water -.-
17:53:18  <Stablean> <Atoompje> auch
17:53:26  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yep xD
17:53:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> We should move coal exit to !coal exit here
17:54:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and BBH 07 - BBH 04 need to be LLL_RRR
17:54:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wouldnt that make BBH 04 part of MSH 01
17:54:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth>  but apart from that we are improving
17:54:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it would
17:58:02  <Stablean> <Atoompje> what is the difference between a MSH and a BBH?
17:58:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MSH has a big station in front of it
17:58:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Main Station Hub
17:58:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH = Main Staton Hub
17:58:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH = Back Bone Hub
17:59:03  <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok, but in the hub itself is builded the same as a BBH?
17:59:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MSH's are more Important than BBH's and sometimes Bigger
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17:59:23  <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok:)
17:59:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Player
17:59:35  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
17:59:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you please change your name
18:00:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or shall we move the coal drop?
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18:02:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why move the coal drop?
18:02:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to remove the BBH 04 - BBH 01 bottle neck
18:03:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where'd you want it
18:03:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not thought about that yet
18:03:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, you want to triple  BBH01-BBH07?
18:03:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes we do
18:04:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the thing with replacing coal drop is
18:04:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need a new line with heavy traffic
18:04:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes a brand new LL_RR line with hubs
18:05:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and we -apparently- dont want it running over BBh01-BBH04
18:05:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Running over BBH 01 - 04 is fine
18:05:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just not in the middle of them
18:07:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just at the moment as we can see BBH 03 -BBH 04 is a train park
18:07:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but not solely dependant of coal trains
18:07:47  <Stablean> <Atoompje> BBH03 - MSH01 i think
18:08:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who wanted to claim land when the factory at Sardhattan died?
18:08:33  <Stablean> <Atoompje> "solely depanded" means "not only"?
18:08:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there are coal trains running there
18:08:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bu imo they dont form problems
18:09:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they're the trains going to fac
18:09:20  <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh that way :) ok!
18:09:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which has little to do with BBH03-BBH04
18:09:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or BBH03-MSH01
18:10:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i asked a question
18:10:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> traffic there could be eased with a link between BBH 05 and BBH 08
18:10:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> someone put up a sign "claim land if dies"
18:10:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and now its dead
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18:10:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
18:11:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @ Sardhattan
18:11:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh that was me
18:11:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ages ago
18:11:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, congrats
18:11:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it died :D
18:11:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but dont need it any more
18:11:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone allready made that line LL_RR
18:12:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but how would a line between BBH05 and BBH08 ease traffic at BBH03-BBH01-BBH02
18:14:10  <Chris_Booth> I think my network has died
18:19:59  <Chris_Booth> !ip
18:19:59  <Stablean> Chris_Booth:
18:20:48  <Chris_Booth> how can the server be there but yet it is now
18:20:50  <Chris_Booth> not
18:23:14  <Chris_Booth> !players
18:30:46  <DayDreamer> i cant connect too
18:32:22  *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!
18:33:23  <Chris_Booth> ooh well its dead
18:33:32  <Chris_Booth> maybe someone will unkill it soon
18:35:35  <Ammler> hmm
18:35:42  <Ammler> server down?
18:35:48  <Ammler> !info
18:35:49  <Stablean> Ammler:
18:35:52  <Ammler> !players
18:36:16  <Ammler> oh, it crashed
18:36:25  <Ammler> but it forgot to crash ap+
18:37:05  <Ammler>
18:37:13  <Chris_Booth> nice maybe AP+ need to have a check for that crash
18:37:31  <Ammler> SmatZ: planetmaker not helpful, I fear ^ ?
18:37:59  <Ammler> also the silly thing is that ap+ still runs
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18:38:24  <planetmaker> he
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18:38:37  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
18:38:49  <Ammler> !players
18:38:51  <Stablean> Ammler: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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18:39:51  <Ammler> good save?
18:40:01  <Chris_Booth> that save is fine
18:40:05  <Chris_Booth> about 15 mins old
18:40:08  <Chris_Booth> but close enough
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18:40:25  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings autosave
18:40:25  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
18:40:25  <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave = 4
18:40:25  <Stablean> Ammler: gui.keep_all_autosave = off
18:40:25  <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave_on_exit = off
18:40:25  <Stablean> Ammler: gui.max_num_autosaves = 255
18:40:26  <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message
18:40:35  <Ammler> yes, we do yearly saves
18:40:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I thought you did monthlys
18:41:19  <Ammler> yeah, hmm, why did we change that?
18:44:02  <Ammler> !server_status
18:44:02  <Stablean> Ammler:  18:44pm  up 39 days  2:28,  1 user,  load average: 0.17, 0.12, 0.04
18:44:03  <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.2%sy,  1.8%ni, 97.9%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
18:44:03  <Stablean> Ammler:  2853 ottdc     30  10 35552  18m 4280 S   18  3.6   0:44.60 ./stable -c openttd
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18:49:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> crash?
18:49:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah
18:50:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what were we talking about
18:51:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> traffic jams
18:51:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how would a link between BBH05 and BBH08 help ease traffic?
18:51:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and how to solve them
18:51:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think trains would use it instead of going vie BBH 01
18:51:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> such as the Frennington South trains
18:52:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but BBH05 is already linked, via BBH07 to BBH08
18:54:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats the only station actualy
18:54:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it might be worth it for the Wanfield/Plafingley Market Farms
18:54:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the steel mill
18:54:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah
18:55:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but then we seriously need connection between BBH04 and MSH2
18:55:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *MSH 03
18:55:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am building that ATM
18:55:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk
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18:58:34  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
18:58:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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19:04:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice almost bridges the gap
19:05:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who is working on coal drop?
19:05:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> <
19:05:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just a hint ignor those lines until the end
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19:06:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanted also to rotate the coal drop
19:06:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah good idea
19:10:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I saved you some space
19:10:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah , saw you doing it
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19:12:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wb
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19:12:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thx
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19:16:01  <Stablean> <Atoompje> wb:p
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19:16:03  <Stablean> <Atoompje> oh.
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19:16:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok we have a huge jam
19:16:52  <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol
19:17:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone added steel trains I think
19:17:09  <Stablean> <Atoompje> looks like it
19:19:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its moving now
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19:25:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: what about the other half of the coal exit?
19:25:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> need to do this first right
19:25:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and somewhere ad a SC
19:26:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, like that one
19:26:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes that one
19:28:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok please build in medium speed rail
19:28:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just got 11million from it
19:28:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
19:28:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its that much cheaper
19:31:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris, im getting in CL problems
19:31:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i was wondering if you have any thoughts on it
19:31:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> try that
19:31:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but you need 2 bridges
19:32:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, thatw ould work
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19:33:44  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
19:33:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
19:34:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Vinnie not a great time to join
19:34:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why am i not welcome?
19:34:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> :P
19:34:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no just look at our jam
19:35:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> dont use pbs to balance trains for a station and the jam will be fixed
19:35:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no don't jam all the steel trains
19:35:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then the factory will not drop its production
19:36:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why are the fac trains going to depot?
19:36:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> servcing them
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19:37:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> did you see what V is building in public. will be nice
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19:38:00  <Stablean> <Atoompje> on the srnw island?
19:38:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
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19:38:14  <Stablean> <Atoompje> it look cool
19:38:20  <Stablean> <Atoompje> but what does it do?:p
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19:38:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its just a srnw where the overflow puts trains where they are needed
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19:39:49  <Stablean> <Atoompje> cool!
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19:39:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fixing steel pickup jam
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19:40:08  <Stablean> <Atoompje> so that would require extra logic at every station?
19:40:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
19:40:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> a counter on each station
19:40:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie>
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19:41:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> his save that made the concept
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19:42:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> steel is moving again
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19:43:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal drop exit is creating some mayor problems
19:44:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah maybe we need to add a 3rd line arround to that soon
19:44:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to cook dinner
19:44:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but will be back soon
19:45:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and will work on it with someone
19:45:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can split traffic 1:1 at factory drop so only 50% of the trains drive teough the coal drop
19:45:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you can finish MSH 03 if it can be
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19:46:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or we could make is a 4 lane anti-clockwise loop
19:46:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that would fix all the problems
19:46:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
19:46:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im in for that
19:47:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 01 - BBH 02 - MSH 02 4 lane anti clockwise loop
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19:47:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> include BBH04
19:47:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we will have to work on MSH 02 a lot
19:47:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in BBH 04
19:48:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets save 20 milj for the cash drop and start the changing
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19:49:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what would help a bit in the mean time would be turning Ruwood Heights
19:49:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so it goes west rather than north
19:49:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> MSH01 should already get some entry lines at BBH04  and at BBH01
19:50:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MSH01-? not MSH03
19:50:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im talking about coal drop
19:50:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
19:51:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> an easy quick fix would follow the line I am going to draw
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19:51:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what would that be for?
19:52:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for the coal drop trains?
19:52:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it would be so all 4 lines can be made to do into BBH 04 and 01 in a loop
19:52:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i believe that is work that will become immediatly obsolete when we make it 4 lanes one way
19:52:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but that will be very cheap
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19:53:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know
19:53:39  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> how come OTTD coop went down?
19:53:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just a crash
19:53:52  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah
19:53:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think we have more on another Coal Drop bay
19:54:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we are playing beta. things can happen
19:54:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: it would if you made it one way
19:54:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Troy McClure: plz dont tf water
19:54:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i wanted to ask that: why are we still playing a beta
19:54:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its me
19:54:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh
19:54:34  <Stablean> <Atoompje> thanks for the link Vinnie. really interesting
19:54:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats my link to MSH 03
19:55:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its great learning but the true learning will be when it works
19:55:45  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fail, just found a bit of track that wasn't set to very high speed -.- :L
19:55:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok CB i think we need to make a small network plan to get a good meaning of the mayor update we are gonna do
19:55:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> none of our net work is very high speed
19:56:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:56:08  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> all of mine is
19:56:14  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and this one was still at low speed
19:56:14  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
19:56:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you start that I am going to cook
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19:59:29  <Stablean> <Atoompje> back in an hour
19:59:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ke
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20:01:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice full gridlock
20:01:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
20:01:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we must start changing
20:02:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no just have the biggest jam in coop history
20:02:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can beat jams like this
20:04:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> made a plan !Core network plan
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20:05:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> new BBH?
20:05:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, using old ones  i guess
20:05:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 new BBHs
20:05:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 at additional BBH
20:05:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> entirely new BBH, or rebuillds?
20:05:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 near Pennford
20:05:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> brand new
20:05:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> white has no pw
20:06:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can make a bit more room
20:06:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: no
20:06:14  <V453000> !date
20:06:15  <Stablean> V453000: 29 Mar 2008
20:06:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> white had a password, server crashed
20:06:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and lost them all
20:06:47  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yeah
20:06:54  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> mine had no password when I came back
20:07:09  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> which worried me that someone might've gone in and then ruined my setups xD
20:07:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ruined your setups xD
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20:10:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> line in the middle of our core network should only be LR not mutch traffic
20:11:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> will need to be more than that
20:11:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all coal trains will use it
20:11:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and alot of farm trains
20:11:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> will need to be atleast LL_RR maybe even LLL_RRR
20:12:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so maybe it isnt a great idea
20:12:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need pieces to be LLL_RRR
20:12:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal trains will use it one way. farms on the return will only use it if they head to north
20:12:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so LL_R
20:13:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> coal trains will need to use it
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20:13:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> most farms come from south and will head trough BBH04]
20:13:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> coal trains are ok now with 2 lines. so maybe 3
20:13:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Still, between BBH03and BBH01
20:14:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you'll probably need 3 lanes each way
20:14:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no we are building a 4 lane anticlockwise loop
20:14:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what you guys are saying that the whole networks needs redoing
20:14:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: the new route isn't realy needed
20:14:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you sugested new route :)
20:15:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I changed my mind
20:15:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just makes tomany short cuts
20:15:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we just make a bypass at facory for coal trains
20:15:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, i think its a silly idea to have a fac on a small island like we do
20:15:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is half a bypass there
20:16:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> next game we will do it better Troy McClure:)
20:17:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i would like to apologize for that landbridge earlier in terms of obeying rules
20:17:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it does carry the traffic needed
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20:19:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> All BBH in the core must be redone but will be easier :)
20:20:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> last piece of MSH 03 done
20:22:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> guys, how about half a BBH between !here and !here
20:23:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> first we must fix the core
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20:25:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> afk for a sec
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20:29:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok BBH 01 - BBH 02 is now closed
20:29:37  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hi
20:29:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
20:29:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:29:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
20:30:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahh some signals :)
20:30:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so work can begin of that lin
20:30:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> line
20:30:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> at\\
20:30:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
20:31:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im gonna get a beer and start. can someone in the meantime increase the gaps at MSH03
20:31:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> signal gap?
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20:35:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> might be better if we send trains to peots
20:35:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we got a deadlock soon
20:35:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> depots
20:35:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it will be fine
20:35:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where would that deadlock be?
20:35:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just work on 1 setion at a time
20:35:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its working better since BBH 01 is closed
20:36:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> From BBH2 to BBH03 and then back around BBH1
20:38:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ML done between BBH01 -02
20:39:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, the old factory died, i see
20:39:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: please use 160 km/h rail
20:39:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its very much cheaper
20:40:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im only signaling
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20:40:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you built some high speed rail
20:40:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ohh
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20:43:27  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Think the tunnnels next to Slinningstone (DIE sign) can be shortened now
20:43:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i want to shut down MSH03 to BBH02 so i can complete BBH02
20:43:36  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *Slonningstone
20:46:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok train are now usings an LL outer loop
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20:49:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> who else is changing network?
20:49:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> me
20:49:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> BBH02 done
20:49:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am wokring on Ruwood Hieghts
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20:50:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but currently its a huge jam
20:50:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i vote to depot 50% of the trains.
20:50:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> or only goods
20:50:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
20:50:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will be fine
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20:58:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MHS 03 has to wait of more money
20:58:40  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I think a lot of your routes are very ineficient Yellows
20:58:51  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> looking at the stuff laying around in the stations, unused
20:58:51  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
20:58:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no they are not
20:59:43  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> stations with 250+ of anything strikes me as inefficient/underused xD
21:00:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are rebuilding a large amount
21:00:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what shall i do with Ruwood Heights Vinnie?
21:01:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its in the way
21:01:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very much so
21:01:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, a sham to let 873 ton mine bleed to death
21:02:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fix network and then find a new solution to connect it?
21:02:01  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Tunnel under it?
21:02:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
21:03:04  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD are you intending to use that coal mine at any point? xD
21:03:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:03:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
21:03:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
21:03:18  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> XD
21:03:18  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:03:50  <Stablean> <V453000> elo
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21:03:54  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> hi
21:03:54  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hihi
21:03:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
21:03:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ]Hi V
21:07:55  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> fpk what have you done xD
21:08:19  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Dont use ships :P
21:08:23  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:08:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, dont use ships
21:08:33  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> catastrophic error, bye-bye company
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21:08:57  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I think there should be a warning about ships for new players...
21:09:09  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> or they should just set the value to 0 straight off
21:09:12  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> that and planes
21:09:17  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Or that...
21:09:32  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:09:42  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> they've set it to 5, why 5 not 0 ? xD
21:10:02  <Stablean> <V453000> anyone can bankrupt their company and be bought by another
21:10:09  <Stablean> <V453000> -> they could join together and cooperate
21:10:15  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah :)
21:10:17  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh yeah done that before
21:10:25  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> makes sense now
21:10:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cB the loop for coal drop should be other way around. now trains travel to below the coal drop twice
21:10:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any better ideas for Ruwood Hieghts?
21:10:43  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#6)
21:10:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> none atm
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21:11:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> roro side ways
21:11:06  <Stablean> <V453000> how affordable is the very high speed rail?
21:11:08  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> why start that company then leave it? xD
21:11:14  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and not very
21:11:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not affordable
21:11:20  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> By the lack of use not very im guessing
21:11:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but that would be  prone to  jams
21:11:22  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I only use it, but
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21:11:40  <Stablean> <V453000> well, white people have 459 M :)
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21:11:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I suppose terraforming water did something :p
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21:11:53  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
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21:12:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i dont know what you are talking about
21:12:16  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol awww fpk
21:12:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who talking?
21:12:31  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> You better sell those ships luke
21:12:39  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> there are none
21:12:43  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> he'd already junked them
21:12:45  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> but too late
21:12:47  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:12:49  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh xD
21:12:59  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> else I'd have joined his company and done it there
21:13:01  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:13:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we shoul reverse coal drop
21:13:13  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I'm getting used to buying failed companies on this server
21:13:15  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:13:17  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol
21:13:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> agree CB
21:13:27  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just make the coal drop one way split?
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21:14:43  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> this train route was very good as well, only needed a little modifying xD
21:15:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at our jam now :D
21:15:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we need cheap fixes
21:15:27  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> the train made £86k last year, now I've sped up the track and fitted a faster engine... xD
21:16:01  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh fpk left
21:16:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who's working on the coal drop site
21:16:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> me
21:16:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are those trains supposed to enter lateron?
21:16:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we im working on MSH
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21:16:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> clockwise
21:16:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
21:16:39  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just split the line?
21:17:45  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> yellow, I love how inconsistent your trains are, using AL1 and AL6s xD
21:17:53  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> why not just use AL6s? xD
21:17:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, thats very consistent
21:18:03  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> oooh fighting talk
21:18:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will use AL 10 in the end
21:18:11  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah xD
21:18:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at one point, we were replacing the goods trains
21:18:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> from tl 3 to tl4
21:18:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i manually reset the new goods trains to AL6
21:18:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> when will we do the change on coal drop
21:18:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> slightly better, but...
21:18:52  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I just run Class 91s, apart from one passenger Pendolino xD
21:18:59  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> but then I have very high speed track xP
21:19:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not worth replacing the AL1s with AL6
21:19:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will do it now
21:19:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when it unjams
21:19:17  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> higher tractive effort tho
21:19:20  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and same running cost
21:19:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> again, slightly better
21:19:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 225/259 aint much
21:19:46  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> still, a slight increase in profits
21:19:48  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> which is always good
21:19:50  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:20:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but its not worth having a jam for 6 months over it
21:20:08  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> true
21:20:29  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I'm running Class 91s and already have the track down
21:20:31  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I have no issues anywhere xD
21:21:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH04 will be a mostly T-Split right?
21:21:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im gonna merge BBH and MSH01. so we dont have to join and immideatly split
21:21:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH01?
21:22:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> East of future coal exit
21:23:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with Tilt we can increase out TL 4 trains to 201km/h using the Pendolion
21:23:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what do with think?
21:23:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> easy on the money ppl
21:23:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am just testing
21:24:18  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> you guys used to make about £15 million income a few years back
21:24:24  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> clearly something went wrong somewhere xD
21:24:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got money Lukeno94
21:24:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no we are rebuilding our netowork
21:24:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once we have finished it will be over 15million
21:24:55  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> ah xD
21:25:10  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> mine might hit £2 million by the time I'm done tweaking and adding stuff
21:25:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you check out our network you will see it is now 4 lanes between our coal drop and factory area
21:25:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
21:26:01  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> your network is immense xD mine are all fairly basic
21:26:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but this is as a replacement for BBH04
21:26:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BTW all coal in depots
21:26:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
21:26:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> change it
21:26:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> change what?
21:26:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> first the entry ?
21:26:36  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Why not build more complex networks then luke? They are good to look at once functioning
21:27:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at all that space :D
21:27:57  <V453000> Lukeno94: if you want to start making things nicer, try setting your main stations - like your network has only 1 power plant, only 1 factory and so on. And connect everything together :) rest goes with time
21:28:16  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> And no one train per line :)
21:28:28  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> unfortunately that's the way I've always built xD
21:28:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we all used to build like that
21:28:42  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> and I can make those work, any of the big complicated ones I fail at
21:28:54  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I end up spending billions making them work
21:28:54  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:29:11  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just build two lines and cross them at the ends, simple :P
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21:29:44  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD I tend to sacrifice that for the stations to fit better
21:31:11  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Jam in Factory drop or intentional?
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21:38:47  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> YES, income over £2 million now for trains xD
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21:40:13  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> feeling charitable xD
21:40:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Lukeno94: that isnt your company
21:40:17  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Shouldnt that company have a pass?
21:40:25  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I know, and yes, probably
21:40:35  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> I just gave them something to boost a wood supply very slightly
21:40:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes but a server reset reset there pass
21:40:45  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> well, yeah
21:40:47  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh
21:40:50  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> all the passes got reset
21:40:58  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> coop and I then remade ours
21:40:58  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
21:42:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how are those 4 lines going to turn 90?
21:42:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> agreed?
21:43:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can we just remove Genpool Oil Refinery :D
21:44:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all those whit lines
21:44:13  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> this isn't singleplayer
21:44:15  <Stablean> <Lukeno94> xD
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21:50:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need a few million "£
21:51:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we are at a stable 6 milj for a few years
21:52:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris
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21:52:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> arent !these lines
21:52:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> potentially going the same direction as !those
21:53:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
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21:53:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> maybe remove these
21:53:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you want to keep it this way?
21:53:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and make those to all 4 tracks
21:53:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that would cut in space
21:53:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, at !those
21:53:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im anticipating hookup from other lines
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21:54:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the MSH-03 exit
21:54:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *01
21:55:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for which trains is that?
21:57:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> split all 4 lines?
21:57:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:58:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> right, there, after the water?
21:58:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: after the water yes
21:58:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you missed some lines in BBH 04
21:58:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> make an x after the bridge so you got the sl exit
22:00:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont think i can make that entry there
22:00:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but...
22:01:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's already a split at Ruwood Heights
22:02:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no response?
22:03:01  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> The second line splitting SW @ Genpool is missing some signals, and should be connected to the second split since 3 lines are using 1 while the other is only used by one
22:03:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sound like an expert :)
22:03:34  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I am :P
22:03:42  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Well not an expert but meh
22:04:43  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Its good to watch others build sometimes can learn stuff :P
22:04:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wanna help?
22:05:02  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Nah im doing work atm
22:05:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I cant do that entry right after the water
22:05:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> maybe its me
22:05:30  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Got OTTD open in another window its distracting :P
22:05:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, i dont see it on the !core map
22:06:28  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Just use Ruwood split then troy? A dedicated line for coal with splits to the ML sounds like it would have benefits
22:06:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> may i start
22:06:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes you may
22:06:42  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Either that or spend a lot of ££ on TF
22:07:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrMouthy, you've seen the !core network plan
22:07:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
22:07:26  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Yes
22:07:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im getting from that that it would be a looop around
22:07:45  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Ruwood split would fulfill that
22:07:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with an entry about where MSH01 exit is now
22:08:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and exit where !those is now
22:08:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, i would think that too
22:08:10  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Yep
22:08:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I would like to see Vinnie try
22:09:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hardest one done
22:09:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but now you have to fit the others in
22:10:15  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Us PBS @ X, so that two trains can go through without stopping?
22:10:20  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *Use
22:10:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you wouldnt want that
22:10:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because you eliminate the use of the double bridge
22:11:00  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> If a coal train is on the left bridge and another type on the right they could both go straight?
22:11:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even though, you're doing that now actually too
22:11:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is right
22:11:22  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Thats what i said? :P
22:11:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lets try if i get any critique from my fellow players if i do that
22:12:00  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> I dont see why
22:12:08  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Improves throughput
22:12:36  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> *(When used by coal trains aswell) :P
22:13:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this network is prity mental for a stable game
22:13:28  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Uh Huh
22:13:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> only the outer one i can+t find a solution for
22:13:59  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Split just after blue bridge?
22:14:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> tf later
22:14:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well
22:14:19  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Not blue bridge but those bridges
22:14:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the one can join @here
22:14:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the other can split $here
22:14:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes i know
22:15:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats why im saying it instead of doing it
22:15:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so we skip it for now
22:15:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> those lines can't be used any way
22:16:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Vinnie: how are you going to connect in those 4 lines from BBH 01 - BBH 04?
22:16:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> redo BBH 04
22:16:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its a bit wrong now
22:16:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> imo
22:17:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I dont like the merges
22:17:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but it would suffice
22:17:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what kind of traffic would those 4 lines have to carry?
22:17:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> my merges?
22:17:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> all farms + goods + steel
22:17:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> farm traffic
22:17:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so what traffic would there be from BBH03?
22:17:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> goods and steel will be on the far 2 lines that are in use now
22:18:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that are now cramped to the 2 lines at BBH04
22:19:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they should be going to BBH06?
22:19:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what should?
22:19:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those 4 ML lines
22:19:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH 06 and MSH 03
22:20:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since its the only link to BBH 02
22:21:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> AL10 :)
22:21:40  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> :P
22:22:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is what those lines need to carry
22:28:13  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Umm build bridges @ needs bridges :P Since trains are using it now
22:28:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> money...
22:28:39  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh
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22:30:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok coal trains are back
22:31:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, ive managed to hook 2 of those 4lines
22:32:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now
22:32:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see you guy tomorrow
22:32:08  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> BB
22:32:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
22:34:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
22:35:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cya
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22:37:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ok im done for today
22:37:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya tommorow
22:37:24  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Bye
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22:41:10  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Meh gonna go now aswell gotta focus on my coursework >_>
22:41:12  <Stablean> <MrMouthy> BB
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22:45:43  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hi
22:45:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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22:54:03  <Stablean> <Atoompje> MSH3 looks so much better now!
22:54:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, its working now
22:54:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but im still far from pleased
22:55:15  <Stablean> <Atoompje> the pickup is horrible
22:55:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, just the pickup
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23:00:21  <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok, its horrible
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23:03:05  <Stablean> <Xed> hi
23:03:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
23:03:20  <Stablean> <Atoompje> hey
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23:10:28  <Stablean> <Atoompje> :O
23:10:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, my bad
23:11:04  <Stablean> <Atoompje> dont forget to but them again
23:11:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really in th emood for it
23:11:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> seems kinda pointless too
23:11:45  <Stablean> <Atoompje> ok
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23:20:55  <Stablean> <Atoompje> lol
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23:42:18  <Stablean> <Atoompje> wb
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