Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 9th June 2011:
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01:26:51  <Stablean> <Slyfoxhound> Wassup Homies!?
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01:27:34  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Anson do you speak English?
01:30:45  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Anson
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02:34:30  <md_> !date
02:34:31  <Stablean> md_:  8 Feb 2139
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08:33:53  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Hi
08:34:40  <Stablean> *** Khaos_Raider has started a new company (#8)
08:35:17  <planetmaker> ho
08:35:29  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> ho?
08:35:39  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
08:35:41  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi
08:35:55  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> maybe I should just watch and learn from yoyu guys
08:36:36  <planetmaker> I could have also said h'''o ;-)
08:36:55  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> are planes and ships allowed?
08:36:56  <planetmaker> leaving out the ell ;-)
08:37:05  <planetmaker> they are allowed. But watch out for the costs
08:37:09  <planetmaker> and running costs.
08:37:13  <planetmaker> Probably they'll ruin you
08:37:31  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> any tips for starting out?
08:37:34  <Stablean> <Anson> allowed, yes ... but prices are "a bit" high ... runni g costs around 100 millions
08:38:08  <planetmaker> Anson: I make it here sometimes my challange to be able to actually afford a (single) plane for my CEO ;-)
08:38:53  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> afk
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08:39:04  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> you can also destroy my company
08:39:06  <planetmaker> just the usual starting strategies apply...
08:39:27  <planetmaker> if you didn't build anything nor passworded it... it will self-destruct
08:39:34  <Stablean> <Anson> general rules are easy and nice : play nice, don't block anybody on purpose, don't steal resources which someone already gets (or goods, etc)
08:39:38  <planetmaker> or buy a ship ;-)
08:40:22  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, yes, buying a ship is the fastest method to commit suicide
09:09:39  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> K im back :P
09:10:47  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Anson
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09:11:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi
09:11:45  <Stablean> <V453000> hi there
09:12:15  <Stablean> <V453000> need some more industries?
09:12:29  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> dunno, havent got a company
09:12:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i am fine with all the forests you built :-)
09:12:39  <Stablean> <V453000> well you could :P
09:13:05  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> V353000, can I join your company? I really need to learn how all this stuff works and I will fail on my own
09:13:07  <Stablean> <Anson> still not all of them connected :-) LOL
09:13:22  <Stablean> <V453000> sorry, but save it in single player and join it there
09:13:30  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need to join it to learn it :p
09:13:46  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> good idea, thanks!
09:13:57  <Stablean> <V453000> what issue do you have with understanding or the learning part?
09:13:59  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I'll just watch and learn for now
09:14:20  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> ummm, just all these new grf's I have never seen before
09:14:37  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> And I am bad with train route layouts and junctions :P
09:14:43  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
09:14:54  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> you sir seem to be pro :P
09:14:57  <Stablean> <V453000> well, only way is to try to build stuff
09:15:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i just did that (saving and start as singleplayer) a few days ago ... finally got the reverser+storagedepot to work now :-)
09:15:22  <Stablean> <V453000> Anson: congratulations :P
09:15:34  <Stablean> <Anson> the only problem i had : needed to search how to play with my own company .... (solution: cheat and change player)
09:15:41  <Stablean> <V453000> yep :)
09:15:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> anybody want a name of a high prod. coal mine?
09:15:53  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> 0% transported
09:15:55  <Stablean> <Anson> V: have a look at my goods pickup station in this game :-)
09:16:13  <Stablean> <V453000> ah there it i
09:16:13  <Stablean> <V453000> is
09:16:27  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> what advantages does that give?
09:16:29  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, that pretty much works :)
09:16:40  <Stablean> <V453000> it stores trains in the depot when needed
09:16:48  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> cool
09:16:58  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> wish I was that smart to make one pf those
09:17:00  <Stablean> <V453000> this ons is rather simple yet :p
09:17:03  <Stablean> <Anson> khaos : i have stored 5-10 trains in that depot without taking up space on the rails ...
09:17:19  <Stablean> <Anson> thus they will come out and work when needed and not block space otherwise
09:17:30  <Stablean> <V453000> just dont be shy and build with us, you will learn with time
09:17:37  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I've gotta learn how to do that, is it on the ottdcoop website?
09:17:51  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, on the blog
09:18:13  <Stablean> <Anson> and thus they take care of additional cargo when i am AFK#
09:18:13  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I have a question bout this stations new grf
09:18:27  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> do you NEED the different station types?
09:18:32  <Stablean> <V453000> no, just visual
09:18:42  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> ok
09:19:07  <Stablean> <V453000> not many people enjoy playing with the same stations everywhere
09:19:07  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Fort frenway coal mine has high prod.
09:19:40  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Im kinda used to the same stations thing, I have been playing RCT since rct1
09:19:46  <Stablean> <V453000> wellI certainly do not care about coal, particularly away from my island and I think anson doesn either :p
09:19:53  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I ALWAYS use the default stations
09:20:03  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
09:20:06  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> (on rct)
09:20:38  <Stablean> <Anson> RCT ? Roller-COaster Tycoon ? :-)
09:20:41  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hmmm, I wouls start a company, but where to start out?
09:20:51  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> yeah Roller Coaster Tycoon
09:21:02  <Stablean> <V453000> anywhere you want, preferably where is a lot of space so that you dont coliide with others :)
09:21:16  <Stablean> <V453000> so my island wouldnt make the greatest idea :p
09:21:22  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> lol
09:21:37  <Stablean> <Anson> i started playing all those games with version 1 ... TT (not even TTD or TTDP), RCT1, Ultima1, sim city, etc
09:21:45  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> new iron ore mine being made on your island
09:22:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I just prospected some
09:22:05  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I started with the original railroad tycoon
09:22:36  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> then tt,ttd,rct,rct2,rct3,simcity,ottd
09:22:51  <Stablean> <V453000> ottd,ottd,ottd,ottd, and now ottd on my part
09:23:01  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> :)
09:23:08  <Stablean> <Anson> i never liked railroad tycoon ... to much economy and too few trains to watch for fun
09:23:16  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> what benifits does the universal rail track give?
09:23:34  <Stablean> <V453000> you can automatically change between rail/maglev
09:23:36  <Stablean> <V453000> etc
09:23:46  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh, thats cool
09:23:56  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, quite useful
09:24:06  <Stablean> <Anson> the universal rail is very slow and costly, but compatible with most other railtypes ...
09:24:12  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> V453000, your island is SO confusing
09:24:31  <Stablean> <V453000> it still requires some attention as you need to change the rail types properly, but it still saves the work of changing trains indidually
09:24:37  <Stablean> <V453000> Khaos_Raider: yet it is made to be simple :P
09:24:47  <Stablean> <V453000> but sure, even simple things can get ... complicated
09:24:53  <Stablean> <Anson> thus autoreplace can be used to switch from one type to another without need to issue all the orders again for hundreds of trains
09:24:55  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> how is the universal rail slow? does it have a speed limit?
09:25:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, just 30kmh
09:25:08  <Stablean> <Anson> (or at least for dozens of shared orders)
09:25:08  <Stablean> <V453000> but you dont need to use the rails, just the depots
09:25:27  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh, so what rail do you use on your island?
09:25:38  <Stablean> <V453000> me? shinkansen
09:25:44  <Stablean> <V453000> which is something like maglev here
09:25:47  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> ??
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09:25:52  <Stablean> <V453000> or it at least appears to be :)
09:25:54  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... send all trains to depot, convert rails and start the converted trains again
09:26:08  <Stablean> <V453000> yes :)
09:26:50  <Stablean> <Anson> as far as i have seen, shinkansen is a maglev, but only usable for passengers and mail
09:27:02  <Stablean> <V453000> sure is :)
09:27:26  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> care to give me money? lol
09:27:34  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe later :)
09:27:48  <Stablean> <Anson> don't ask for money ... you might get more than you wanted :-)
09:29:49  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to know how a station might look without the storage depot, look at Dumford Woods ... 7 tracks for 6 trains and 2 transfer-trains
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09:30:12  <Stablean> <Anson> really bad construction, but looks funny :-)
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09:30:41  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> my game glitched :(
09:30:55  <Stablean> <V453000> how come?
09:31:01  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> dont know
09:31:09  <Stablean> <V453000> or ... what did it do?
09:31:21  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> have you tried playing AoE2 on Windows 7? cos thats what happened
09:31:27  <Stablean> <V453000> no :)
09:31:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> all the colours reversed
09:31:56  <Stablean> <V453000> interesting
09:32:02  <Stablean> <V453000> never happened here on w7
09:32:22  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> no, not reversed, just went to a REALLY high brightness and contrast
09:32:28  <Stablean> <Anson> i read about that ... the color palette is not reset since that would give other problems
09:32:28  <Stablean> <V453000> neither
09:32:46  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> is it fixable?
09:32:55  <Stablean> <Anson> but it should only happen when you play fullscreen and use another program at the same time
09:33:20  <Stablean> <V453000> ooh :)
09:33:22  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I only run the taskbar eliminator
09:34:27  <Stablean> <Anson> i run ottd in a maximized window ... else background programs would often switch between fullscreen and windowed mode
09:34:45  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, me too
09:34:57  <Stablean> <V453000> often switching to other programs like iRC
09:35:11  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh well, I will just have to live with this then :P
09:35:17  <Stablean> <Anson> but sometimes, i would like a fast method to run ottd fullscreen
09:35:23  <Stablean> <V453000> or dont run fullscreen :p
09:35:35  <Stablean> <V453000> it doesnt give too much advantages I think :)
09:35:45  <Stablean> <Anson> i found a commandline switch to change resolution on startup, but no switch for toggling fullscreen
09:36:06  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> WHOA, sooo many trains, what do I use for oil?
09:36:08  <Stablean> <V453000> alt enter?
09:36:14  <Stablean> <V453000> oil trains ? :)
09:36:28  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh :P
09:36:51  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> no, I mean engines aswell, what should I start with?
09:36:59  <Stablean> <V453000> which ever you want
09:37:06  <Stablean> <V453000> probably some rather cheap one I guess
09:37:28  <Stablean> <Anson> i would like to use fullscreen for zooming a bit ... else signals are very small on my screen and barely odentifiable (at least on other signal GRFs; the current one is the best :-)
09:37:46  <Stablean> <V453000> does that zoom in? I do not think
09:37:49  <Stablean> <V453000> it just increases resolution
09:38:17  <Stablean> <Anson> changing desktop resolution is not so easy and messes up windows etc
09:38:20  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> does oil count as heavy frieght?
09:38:42  <Stablean> <V453000> dunno, I guess that is based on wagons, train length, total train weight etc
09:38:48  <Stablean> <V453000> ignore that
09:38:50  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i would like to sometimes start ottd fullscreen with a different resolution, and later back windowed with normal reolution
09:38:56  <Stablean> <V453000> important is just carg/passengers
09:39:48  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> how can I tell if my train has continuous braking?
09:39:58  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on wagons
09:40:08  <Stablean> <V453000> if you use the best wagons, you do not need braking vans
09:40:14  <Stablean> <V453000> with exception ov livestock
09:41:21  <Stablean> <Anson> some GRFs have that info listed when buying wagons, but most other GRFs don't ... then a rule of thumb to me is, that short and slow wagons mostly require braking cars
09:41:39  <Stablean> <V453000> particularly NARS is confusing on that part
09:41:41  <Stablean> <Anson> but i also found that short trains mostly don't need them (up to TL3 or such)
09:41:54  <Stablean> <V453000> if you have 4 or less wagons then you dont even need the braking van I think
09:42:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:42:10  <Stablean> <V453000> about that
09:43:11  <Stablean> <Anson> quite difficult for a multoplay-beginner to learn all those properties of different GRFs when almost every game uses different combonations of GRFs
09:43:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well, nobody said this is a beginner-friendly server
09:43:41  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I'm not a begginer thoug, I have played for over a year
09:44:10  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I played ttd for bout 3 years
09:44:37  <Stablean> <Anson> i meant MULTIPLAY-beginner ... not having played with many different GRFs yet
09:44:48  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh lol :P
09:44:50  <Stablean> <V453000> you can play with newgrfs offline :p
09:45:14  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> but I don't really use them
09:45:27  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> well, my first route is done
09:45:30  <Stablean> <V453000> well now you are :p
09:45:42  <Stablean> <Anson> when i play solo offline, i always am too tempted to use the easiest GRFs, cheat a few billion money, use very flat landscape, etc :-)
09:45:52  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
09:45:52  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> me too :P
09:45:58  <Stablean> <Anson> in MP, i am forced to live with what i get and adapt to it
09:46:04  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> then make heaps of ai and buy like 30 companies :P
09:46:21  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> wish we could buy shares
09:46:27  <Stablean> <V453000> I never played openttd with an ai :)
09:46:58  <Stablean> <Anson> no AIs for me ... i the old TTD, i always crashed the AI trains until they were bancrupt and i could build again where i wanted :-)
09:47:17  <Stablean> <V453000> AIs are nothing but a moving obstacle
09:47:53  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> I usually just go on SP to develop new train junctions and stations
09:48:39  <Stablean> <V453000> hm, if you want to learn something then using only path signals might be the very first thing you want to get rid of
09:49:02  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> yeah, I have to learn to use others
09:49:13  <Stablean> <V453000> well, just use them :p
09:49:20  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> what would you reccomend to use for this route
09:49:34  <Stablean> <V453000> normal signals?
09:49:52  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> is there a way to convert them all at once?
09:49:54  <Stablean> <V453000> no
09:50:13  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> will it affect the trains if I do it one by one?
09:50:15  <Stablean> <V453000> you can remove all signals on one line at once though
09:50:29  <Stablean> <V453000> not too much ,trains should be fine
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09:51:29  <Stablean> <Anson> if you remove many signals at once, pay attention where trains are ..... CRASH :-)
09:51:39  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> they are in the depot for now :P
09:52:07  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi Jack
09:52:26  <Stablean> <Anson> highjack ??? :-)
09:52:34  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> TROLOLOLOL
09:52:57  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> slyfox reference ftw :)
09:53:50  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> SHIT, forgot to use electric rails :P
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09:56:04  <Stablean> <V453000> shower time
09:56:04  <Stablean> <V453000> later
09:56:14  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> cya
09:57:06  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> ok, now I need the money lol'
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09:57:47  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> quick shower!?
09:57:59  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh, and thanks man
10:00:41  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> anson
10:01:55  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Anson are you there?
10:03:10  <Stablean> <Anson> watching TV while constructing ... easy to not see chat, but sometime later i always read it :-)
10:03:34  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Can you help me at Fort Frenway Coal Mine?
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10:03:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> not sure how to make the station
10:07:32  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Anson
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10:11:51  <V453000> lol
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10:34:42  <Stablean> <V453000> lol red people use the hover busses
10:35:03  <Stablean> <V453000> oh, everyone actually does
10:38:59  <Stablean> <Anson> is it useful to have hover buses for short distances andor inner-city ?
10:39:05  <Stablean> <V453000> of course not
10:39:16  <Stablean> <V453000> they cant even get to 10% speed
10:39:20  <Stablean> <V453000> ok maybe a bit
10:39:22  <Stablean> <V453000> but still :)
10:39:33  <Stablean> <V453000> 30 passengers is a low capacity
10:39:43  <Stablean> <Anson> just watched a few ... max speed up to maybe 130 in town
10:40:15  <Stablean> <V453000> double deckers have about the same speed but triple capacity :)
10:40:29  <Stablean> <V453000> almost quadruple
10:40:36  <Stablean> <Anson> and probably better acceleration too
10:42:45  <Stablean> <Anson> i need to learn about station ratings, the famous 65% to 70% range, and/or 75% range, etc ... where do i look best ?
10:42:58  <planetmaker> wiki
10:43:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i heard that there re chapters on game mechanics, but "game mechanic" gave no reults on a search
10:43:55  <planetmaker> try the obvious searches
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10:45:13  <planetmaker>
10:47:20  <Stablean> <Anson> THANKS
10:47:31  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... i had searched on the coop wiki :-) :-(
10:48:11  <planetmaker> :-)
10:48:28  <Stablean> <Anson> i have the page in my browser now ... will read it later when i get back from AFK
10:48:34  <Stablean> <Anson> cu l8r
10:48:38  <planetmaker> there's the wiki and the wiki. Note the difference in spelling and pronounciation ;-)
10:49:20  * planetmaker quickly hides
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10:50:44  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi
10:51:07  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> why is the game paused?
10:51:26  <Stablean> <Anson> just going AFK ... will return a bit later, but probably only much later in the evening
10:51:38  <Stablean> <Anson> no active players = pause
10:51:40  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> V453000
10:51:54  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> oh, anson, can you do something for me?
10:52:09  <Ammler> well, _the_ wiki is #openttdcoop wiki :-)
10:52:17  <Stablean> <Anson> AFK ... back later or in the evening
10:52:23  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> K
10:52:38  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> admin, are you able to check something for me?
10:52:51  <Ammler> (the other is manual)
10:53:14  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> Ammeler, can you check something for me?
10:53:27  <planetmaker> Ammler, good point :-)
10:53:40  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: in case you don't know, khaos : this chat is linked to an IRC channel where many more people might read ... messages from them are from stablean <username>
10:53:46  <planetmaker> Khaos: don't ask meta-questions. Ask your question
10:54:24  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> alright, I made a server and I just wan't somebody to check that it is showing on the server list
10:54:34  <planetmaker>
10:54:36  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> its called "Everybody welcome to play"
10:54:37  <planetmaker> check yourself
10:54:39  <Ammler> ^ :-)
10:54:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> K
10:54:54  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> just thought it might only work on my pc
10:55:00  <Ammler> if works, it is announced
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10:55:51  <planetmaker> though I'd not be 100% surprised if in the next days one service or another would have a glitch in being (not) reachable ;-)
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10:56:42  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
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11:22:59  <Stablean> <NCommander> morning Chris
11:23:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afternoon NCommander
11:23:21  <Stablean> <NCommander> quite an impressive setup here
11:23:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is
11:23:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the transfernetwork is nice
11:24:03  <Stablean> <NCommander> Is this a more 'normal' game of OpenTTD vs. a cooperative one?
11:24:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no this is a normal game for this server
11:24:52  <Stablean> <NCommander> in other words, create a company and try and get in on the ulimate madness :-)
11:25:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
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11:26:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> have some start up
11:26:23  <planetmaker> rules for our stable server are easy: be nice and don't 'steal' goods another person transports already
11:26:47  <planetmaker> exceptions of course by mutual agreement
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11:27:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why does md keep growing towns and breaking the rules?
11:28:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Player: please change your name
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11:28:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> type !name 'your new name'into the chat bar
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11:48:14  <Chris_Booth> its basecost mods
11:48:20  <Chris_Booth> we changes cost of everything
11:48:24  <Stablean> <NCommander> basecost mdoe?
11:48:37  <Stablean> <NCommander> that explaisn it, cause I don't remember ever running up running costs like this
11:48:39  <Chris_Booth> yes increasing / decreasing building or running costs
11:49:03  <Stablean> <NCommander> that makes it extremely difficult to build a shipping empire :-/
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11:49:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can't run boats
11:49:22  <Stablean> <NCommander> I didn't see anything about that in the rules
11:49:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not in the rules
11:49:39  <planetmaker> ships are a ressource eater, esp. when buoys are not used frequently
11:49:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just the settngs
11:50:02  <planetmaker> you can run a boat to ruin yourself :-P
11:50:04  <Stablean> <NCommander> Ah :-/. Didn't know that.
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11:51:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> airplanes are hard here aswell
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11:54:41  <Stablean> <V453000> elo
11:54:47  <Stablean> <NCommander> hola
11:54:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi V453000
11:54:56  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
11:55:07  <Stablean> <NCommander> so far, I've managed to bankrupt two companies
11:55:13  <Stablean> <NCommander> I must be doing something right :-)
11:55:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> NCommander:  you want to try again?
11:55:29  <Stablean> <NCommander> I'm scoting for a decent rail place to plop down
11:55:40  <Stablean> <V453000> ships might not be the best way indeed
11:55:52  <Stablean> <NCommander> especially with the way they are configured in this game
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11:57:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: what do you think about md running buses in the towns which I planed to grow, and now effectivly blocking me?
11:57:52  <Stablean> <V453000> bad shit
11:58:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its annoying but I will get over it
11:58:11  <planetmaker> how does one know that someone *plans* to grow a town?
11:58:14  <Stablean> <V453000> just tell him I believe his intention was to help you grow them
11:58:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> planetmake when you are building a highspeed rail network
12:00:29  <Stablean> <NCommander> finally found a decent starting location, now need to figure out how to lay track ...
12:00:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> press a
12:00:50  <Stablean> <NCommander> Oh, no, I mean layout, not actually :-)
12:01:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> XD
12:01:30  <Stablean> <V453000> hehe
12:02:06  <planetmaker> NCommander, but the stable server doesn't require being in IRC. It only requires that actually when people want to load a new map and I can't be bothered ;-)
12:02:21  <planetmaker> (nor V nor Ammlllller) ;-)
12:02:34  <Stablean> *** NCommander has started a new company (#10)
12:02:57  <V453000> havent happened in a while that I could not be bothered :P
12:03:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't spen it all at once NCommander
12:03:50  <planetmaker> V453000, happens to me all the time with this server. Especially if I know the person played here before ;-)
12:04:00  <V453000> :P
12:04:35  <Chris_Booth> new map
12:04:45  <planetmaker> old map
12:04:49  <Chris_Booth> new map
12:04:51  <planetmaker> ripe map
12:04:53  <Chris_Booth> new map
12:04:57  <planetmaker> water map
12:04:59  <Chris_Booth> new map
12:05:04  <planetmaker> stony map
12:05:05  <Chris_Booth> new map
12:05:22  <Chris_Booth> I can shout new map all day
12:05:45  <planetmaker> no doubt. I wonder though how long people will be able to listen :-P
12:06:01  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as I have ability to kick, not long
12:06:11  <planetmaker> V453000, that's boring. Mute ;-)
12:06:18  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
12:06:22  <Chris_Booth> use /ignore
12:06:43  <planetmaker> that's the solution for one person only. mute is the admin's choice to save that for all others ;-)
12:06:52  <Chris_Booth> I am sure a few ignore me
12:07:08  * planetmaker only ignores hand-selected people
12:07:22  <planetmaker> and them only in channel
12:07:28  <Chris_Booth> I only ignore myself
12:07:58  <planetmaker>   ChoHag*!*                 NO   NO   YES  NO   NO   NO   NO
12:07:58  <planetmaker>   TruePikachu@*!*           NO   NO   YES  NO   NO   NO   NO
12:07:58  <planetmaker>   svip*@*                   NO   NO   YES  NO   NO   NO   NO
12:07:58  <planetmaker>   *!* NO   NO   YES  NO   NO   NO   NO
12:08:12  <V453000> he
12:08:23  <V453000> TP is awesome
12:08:41  <Chris_Booth> I know none of these people
12:08:54  <planetmaker> yes, as awesome as a knife in the back or so
12:09:10  <V453000> knife in the back is rather fine
12:09:14  <V453000> in compare :p
12:09:17  <planetmaker> :-D
12:09:29  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth, no loss then ;-) And don't bother
12:09:31  <V453000> he just hurts you bu what he says
12:11:02  <Chris_Booth> my list include me (when I am on my laptop and RPharazon)
12:11:26  <Chris_Booth> RPharazon is just about the most hateful person I have ever had the chance to have met
12:11:45  <Chris_Booth> still
12:11:47  <Chris_Booth> new map
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12:14:13  <Stablean> <NCommander> I realize its been a long time since I last played OpenTTD, but I don't remember Maglevs limited to passengers +mail only. Is that another house seting/rule?
12:14:25  <Stablean> <V453000> no, that is a newgrf
12:14:34  <Stablean> <NCommander> weee
12:14:53  <Stablean> <V453000> japanese train set
12:15:34  <Stablean> <NCommander> at least the conversion tool makes it easy to undo thi smistake
12:15:45  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
12:16:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you havent been on OTTD a while :P
12:18:52  <Stablean> <NCommander> Well, finally got my first train to run.
12:19:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, you might want to set a pw
12:19:29  <Stablean> <NCommander> set
12:19:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
12:19:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you are doomed to failur :S
12:20:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that train isnt refitted to grain/livestock
12:20:41  <Stablean> <NCommander> I think these newgrfs are going ot require some gettng use to
12:21:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> press the boxes button
12:21:56  <planetmaker> NCommander, every game some others ;-)
12:22:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> below the "ignore traffic light" button
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12:22:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and then choose to refit to whatever you want
12:22:39  <Stablean> <NCommander> right, got that, but it only refits the entire trian, not individual cars even when I click on them
12:22:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it should do that to the entire train
12:22:58  <Stablean> <NCommander> I don't want it to do it for the entire train
12:23:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can do it to one car
12:23:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah
12:23:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one train with several cargos/
12:23:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
12:23:21  <Stablean> <NCommander> yeah
12:23:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not the best idea, but go ahead if you want
12:23:33  <Stablean> <NCommander> I like my trains to be closer to realism :-)
12:23:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then you should make your railnetwork accordingly
12:24:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is not typical "realistic" railnetworking
12:24:22  <Stablean> <NCommander> Farms generate both grain and livestock,
12:24:35  <Stablean> <NCommander> Well, yes, but I'm right now just trying to get my head around this seutp
12:25:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you use more modern wagons, you don't need a breakvan
12:27:25  <Stablean> <NCommander> I don't see a car with livestock + continuous brakes
12:27:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then look harder
12:27:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> HOKI 2500 hopper
12:28:23  <Stablean> <NCommander> it doesn't show up, even if I sort by Livestock
12:28:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and after 1985, you dont need a brake van at all
12:28:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> period
12:28:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even if it doesnt have continuous brakes
12:29:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you do
12:29:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how so
12:29:41  <Stablean> <NCommander> it won't let the train leave without it
12:29:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just checking #28 and its running fine withouth brake van
12:29:59  <Stablean> <NCommander> I'm just happy ATM to get a train to start loading
12:30:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that not a jap loco
12:30:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> noob Troy McClure
12:30:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> have you checked for the  HOKI 2500
12:30:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
12:30:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my bad :S
12:31:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
12:31:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, there is no wagon with continuous brakes for livestock
12:31:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my bad
12:31:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is silly
12:31:51  <Stablean> <NCommander> yay for me not going insane
12:31:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> must be missing from the set
12:31:59  <Stablean> <NCommander> I was hoping I wasn't that hopeless :-)
12:32:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's WAMU 50000 or 80000
12:32:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> both have no continuous brakes
12:33:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone mind if I make a new map?
12:33:14  <Stablean> <NCommander> no
12:33:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope, go ahead
12:33:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any requests?
12:33:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> some like this one
12:33:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not too much water
12:33:56  <Stablean> <NCommander> I'm not picky, although it might be interesting in a different climate
12:33:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> normal terrain (no arctic)
12:34:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or perhaps tropic
12:34:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, tropic would be fun
12:34:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> temp I am not going to use jap landscape
12:34:20  <Stablean> <NCommander> We could do Toyland ;-)
12:34:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> FIRS?
12:34:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> NO TOYLAND
12:34:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> UKRS
12:34:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we had toyland last game
12:34:44  <Stablean> <NCommander> Ukraine Train Set?
12:34:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, no FIRS on my behalf
12:34:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> United Kingdom Rial set
12:34:55  <Stablean> <NCommander> oh
12:34:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *train set
12:35:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> UKRS would work withtropic right/
12:35:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and metro newgrf?
12:35:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can load 2cc or Jap set
12:35:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> both have nice metro
12:35:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2cc is european right
12:36:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> going to check which were those
12:36:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2cc has to run on metro tracks
12:36:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> jap can run on normal tracks
12:36:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah 2cc is nice
12:37:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then no UKRS?
12:37:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2cc is nasty IMO
12:37:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
12:37:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fast loco is most powerful
12:37:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah
12:37:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so everyone ends up with same loco
12:37:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> japanese with nutrack?
12:38:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> doesn't work
12:38:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> too bad
12:38:23  <Stablean> <NCommander> *is noticing that using ones RL name seems to be common in this server*
12:38:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TFR + UKRS
12:38:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TRF/
12:38:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure
12:38:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tropic Refurbishment set
12:39:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, is fine :P
12:39:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or URKS + NARS
12:39:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, not into NARS
12:40:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> weight multiplier 2x?
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12:53:22  <Stablean> <NCommander> are we tarting a new map?
12:53:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris is working on it
12:53:45  <Stablean> <NCommander> oh
12:55:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just working on it
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13:10:46  <Chris_Booth> map:
13:13:40  <V453000> wtf nutracks 1.1.1? seriously?
13:14:58  <Chris_Booth> yes I know they look super ugly
13:15:06  <Chris_Booth> but I can't find an old version
13:15:15  <Chris_Booth> but I change the track grf
13:15:28  <Chris_Booth> so they shouldn't just be grey shit
13:15:55  <V453000> ?
13:16:08  <V453000> btw why the hell multiplied town authority stuff
13:16:22  <Chris_Booth> stop people bribing
13:16:28  <Chris_Booth> getting people to use trees
13:17:36  <V453000> make trees cheap instead
13:17:41  <Chris_Booth> I can change nutrack and basecost if you want
13:17:57  <V453000> why the hell cant you just use the standard basecosts ...
13:18:03  <V453000> ships expensive ... why
13:18:30  <V453000> I dont care too much myself, I will certainly not be playing here in the next few days, but well ...
13:18:30  <Chris_Booth> I don't want people buying them by accident
13:18:40  <V453000> ...
13:19:16  <Chris_Booth> there is a standard set of basecosts?
13:19:28  <V453000> well, just load the current map and use it again?
13:21:48  <Chris_Booth> could do
13:23:45  <Chris_Booth> ok 1.1.1 is very ugly
13:23:47  <Chris_Booth>
13:23:54  <Stablean> <V453000> I know ...
13:24:37  <Chris_Booth> let me make some changed then
13:24:55  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think you will be able to change nutracks in a running game but not entirely sure
13:25:03  <Stablean> <V453000> certainly removing the newgrf breaks stuff,
13:25:09  <Stablean> <V453000> whether replacing works, no clue
13:25:20  <Stablean> <V453000> btw variety distribution sucks greatly
13:25:47  <Chris_Booth> it does, but it was for a shange
13:25:49  <Chris_Booth> change
13:26:07  <Stablean> <V453000> hmf, meh
13:26:38  <Chris_Booth> if every game is japan styled
13:26:49  <Chris_Booth> with same indutries
13:26:52  <Chris_Booth> it get a bit dull
13:26:59  <Stablean> <V453000> is every game japan styled?
13:27:06  <Chris_Booth> last 3 have been
13:27:08  <Stablean> <V453000> and original industries are still the best :)
13:27:14  <Stablean> <V453000> hardly
13:27:37  <Chris_Booth> we had Jap temp Jap toyland then this map
13:27:46  <Stablean> <V453000> jap toyland was at .dev
13:27:56  <Stablean> <V453000> toyland wasnt here for a while afaik
13:27:57  <Chris_Booth> ooh
13:28:10  <Chris_Booth> so I forgot a game on here
13:28:58  <Stablean> <V453000> 201 active trains :)
13:29:19  <planetmaker> <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think you will be able to change nutracks in a running game but not entirely sure <-- that may or may not leave you with broken railtypes. Depends
13:29:35  <V453000> yes :)
13:29:41  <V453000> best just re-generate the map
13:29:42  <planetmaker> broken as in weired toolbar etc
13:29:47  <V453000> yes
13:30:06  <planetmaker> if it's a random, new game: always re-generate. Easier and much more fail-proof
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13:34:05  <NCommander> How much time 'til the new map is up? I kinda want to get lunch/breakfast if its going to be awhile
13:35:43  <Chris_Booth> NCommander: I am working on it
13:35:52  <Chris_Booth> but may not be ready for another hour
13:37:00  <NCommander> That tells me to go get lunch
13:37:38  <Chris_Booth> V453000: nutrack 1.0.0 or r112?
13:37:50  <Stablean> <V453000> guess, you have 1 chance
13:38:21  <Chris_Booth> :S
13:38:34  <Stablean> <V453000> keyword is bananas
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13:39:13  <Chris_Booth> I got them both from bananas
13:39:33  <NCommander> One request if I'm allowed is that I'd like to see ships usable */2 cents*.
13:39:37  <V453000> hm, what is the difference then
13:39:43  <V453000> NCommander: no
13:39:52  <NCommander> k
13:40:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1.0.0 is newer and probably doesn't have the rail conversion bug
13:40:20  <Stablean> <V453000> ... :)
13:40:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> r117 does have the bug IIRC
13:40:36  <Stablean> <V453000> then why do you hesitate :D
13:40:45  <Stablean> <V453000> sounds dead clear to me
13:40:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> same r117
13:40:58  <V453000> ...
13:51:14  <Chris_Booth> disproving ....
13:51:15  <Chris_Booth> :D
13:51:39  <Chris_Booth>
13:51:47  <Chris_Booth> map:
13:52:04  <Chris_Booth> that one has the changed we discussed
13:52:20  <Chris_Booth> s/changed/d/s
13:52:32  <V453000> elegant solution :D
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13:53:16  <V453000> I recommend changing parameters of SMITS
13:53:18  <Chris_Booth> yes well not sure if Nutrack 1.0.0 can replace 1.1.1
13:53:30  <Chris_Booth> you did
13:53:37  <V453000> so it doesnt totally replace stations and it doesnt change bridges
13:53:41  <planetmaker> indeed... smitz needs parameters. It must not replace bridges and stations
13:53:49  <planetmaker> :-)
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13:53:53  <V453000> ye
13:54:22  <V453000> well with no roadset it can replace bridges technically, but when it just does show one visual bridge for all bridge types, it quite sucks
13:54:47  <Chris_Booth> yes
13:54:54  <Chris_Booth> not sure why I loads SMITz
13:55:11  <Chris_Booth> oh yes for UKRS
13:59:58  <V453000> anyway, I will be going
13:59:59  <V453000> later
14:00:03  <Chris_Booth> bye bye V453000
14:00:09  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
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14:00:14  <Chris_Booth> does SMITS even work with nutracks?
14:02:55  <planetmaker> probably not
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14:12:13  <Chris_Booth> SMITS doesn't work with nutracks
14:12:16  <Chris_Booth> so its removed
14:12:23  <Chris_Booth> save still in same location
14:12:39  <Chris_Booth> map:
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16:15:45  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> anybody on irc?
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16:17:27  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> hmm someone's willed to play?
16:18:20  <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game
16:19:47  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> hi
16:19:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hi :)
16:19:59  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> coop?
16:20:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> nice networks :)
16:20:08  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> yop
16:20:51  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> oh no, I'm not a very good player like these one (or you :p )
16:21:09  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and I'm french ^^ not easy to speak in english all the way ^^
16:21:28  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Nous pouvons parlez francais sur entreprise
16:21:34  <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has started a new company (#11)
16:21:34  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
16:21:41  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Come and join
16:22:20  <Ammler> Syl59, you do it good enough
16:22:30  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Ammler: :)
16:22:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Thanks :)
16:23:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I've got another compagny with on another server and ... i've got some problems with signals, give me headaches :p
16:23:21  <Stablean> *** Khaos_Raider joined the game
16:23:26  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> okay
16:23:29  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi
16:23:31  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Which server is it?
16:23:43  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> I'll switch
16:24:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> a private server
16:24:34  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> okay...
16:24:37  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> do you need some help?
16:24:47  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> me not
16:25:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> No, it just sme problem of priorities plcament
16:25:07  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> K
16:25:07  <Stablean> *** Tool has left the game (general error)
16:25:15  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and the choice between PBS and pre-signals ;)
16:25:28  <Stablean> *** Tool joined the game
16:25:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (not for priorities, of course )
16:25:29  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> do you guys know the pw to the public server, I want to join so I can learn
16:25:32  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi tool
16:25:42  <Stablean> <Tool> hi there
16:25:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hi :)
16:26:10  <Stablean> <Tool> where is the cool shit?
16:26:12  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> yellow is just pure freak at this game :P
16:26:34  <Ammler> !rcon companies
16:26:35  <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Yellow) Company Name: 'Island of Beer and Cheer'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 2246683568  Loan: 0  Value: 2248785609  (T:616, R:72, P:0, S:0) protected
16:26:35  <Stablean> Ammler: #:2(Orange) Company Name: '<Hudy> Transport'  Year Founded: 1928  Money: 250449528  Loan: 200000  Value: 250325890  (T:13, R:1, P:0, S:0) protected
16:26:35  <Stablean> Ammler: #:3(Red) Company Name: 'Chris Booth Transport'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 232621953  Loan: 0  Value: 233453012  (T:28, R:97, P:0, S:0) protected
16:26:35  <Stablean> Ammler: #:4(Light Blue) Company Name: 'x-Cargo Transport'  Year Founded: 1924  Money: 131766060  Loan: 0  Value: 131911424  (T:11, R:25, P:0, S:0) protected
16:26:35  <Stablean> Ammler: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'Anson Transport'  Year Founded: 2088  Money: 125530847  Loan: 0  Value: 126484873  (T:58, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:26:37  <Stablean> Ammler: you have 6 more messages
16:26:38  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I agree ^^
16:26:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> your hub are awesome ^^
16:27:02  <Ammler> is yellow V?
16:27:05  <Stablean> <Tool> Wow
16:27:07  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> yeah
16:27:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Maybe he's a member of the coop team ;)
16:27:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> he must be
16:28:01  <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has left the game (leaving)
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16:28:25  <Ammler> not just, he is also crazy for #openttdcoo level
16:28:47  <Stablean> <Tool> just takes time :)
16:29:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ^^
16:29:08  <Stablean> <Tool> and looks more impressive with this grafic
16:29:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I don't like bluiding some hubs like that, I prfer begining with some basic junctions, and adapt them with the trafic of the line
16:30:15  <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game
16:30:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> yes it's dirtier than this, but it's easier to build :)
16:30:36  <Stablean> <Tool> indeed :)
16:30:46  <Ammler> !players
16:30:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 332 is Amm1er, a spectator
16:30:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 322 is [FR]Syl59, a spectator
16:30:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 327 is Tool, a spectator
16:30:54  <Ammler> !rcon move 332 1
16:30:54  <Stablean> Ammler: ‎*** Amm1er has joined company #1
16:30:56  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
16:32:01  <Stablean> *** Tool has left the game (leaving)
16:32:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and I hate small trains ^^
16:32:40  <Stablean> <Amm1er> hehe, hoover
16:33:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> not able to make >10k
16:37:39  <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving)
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16:56:05  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: can you load my map?
16:56:07  <Chris_Booth> map:
16:59:03  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
16:59:05  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game
16:59:07  <Ammler> !date
16:59:08  <Stablean> Ammler:  8 Sep 2187
16:59:17  <Ammler> this game is done?
16:59:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good enough
16:59:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> chris was working on a new map
16:59:33  <Ammler> !getsave
16:59:35  <Stablean> Ammler: OK :-)
16:59:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but that was hours ago
17:01:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why'd you ask Ammler/
17:03:05  <Ammler> !rcon save stable110609
17:03:05  <Stablean> Ammler: CmdRemoveRailroadTrack     Troy McClure  date:2187-12-22  tile:0003D1B3  p1:0003D1C1 p2:00000003 text: price:-800
17:03:05  <Stablean> Ammler: CmdRemoveRailroadTrack     Troy McClure  date:2187-12-22  tile:0003CFBF  p1:0003CFB4 p2:00000003 text: price:-730
17:03:05  <Stablean> Ammler: Saving map...
17:03:05  <Stablean> Ammler: Map successfully saved to stable110609.sav
17:03:12  <Ammler> !rcon pwd
17:03:12  <Stablean> Ammler: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/
17:03:17  <Ammler> !rcon cd uploads
17:03:17  <Stablean> Ammler: CmdRemoveRailroadTrack     Troy McClure  date:2187-12-27  tile:00037FC4  p1:000375C0 p2:00000043 text: price:-210
17:03:20  <Ammler> !rcon ls
17:03:20  <Stablean> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
17:03:20  <Stablean> Ammler: 1) archive/ (Directory)
17:03:20  <Stablean> Ammler: 2) CB_Stable.sav
17:03:21  <Stablean> Ammler: 3) StableTemp62a.sav
17:03:21  <Stablean> Ammler: 4) StableTemp62.sav
17:03:21  <Stablean> Ammler: you have 12 more messages
17:03:27  <Ammler> !content
17:03:28  <Stablean> Ammler: Connection established
17:03:32  <Stablean> Ammler: Expect timeout triggered!
17:03:32  <Stablean> Ammler: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
17:03:35  <Ammler> !content
17:03:37  <Stablean> Ammler: Expect timeout triggered!
17:03:39  <Stablean> Ammler: Downloading 5 file(s) (868510 bytes)
17:03:39  <Stablean> Ammler: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
17:03:49  <Ammler> !rcon rescan_newgrf
17:04:22  <Ammler> !rcon load 2
17:04:22  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost)
17:04:22  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
17:04:22  <Stablean> Ammler: players
17:04:23  <Stablean> Ammler: server_info
17:04:23  <Stablean> Ammler: clients
17:04:23  <Stablean> Ammler: echo doneclientcount
17:04:23  <Stablean> Ammler: players
17:04:25  <Stablean> Ammler: you have 31 more messages
17:04:27  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
17:04:41  <Ammler> !date
17:04:41  <Stablean> Ammler: 28 Dec 1920
17:04:53  <Ammler> !rcon companies
17:04:54  <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Flunninghall Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 92451  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
17:05:11  <Ammler> !rcon reset_company 1
17:05:11  <Stablean> Ammler: Company deleted.
17:05:45  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game
17:08:25  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has started a new company (#1)
17:08:25  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
17:15:56  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game
17:16:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi chris
17:16:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
17:16:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> your map?
17:16:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
17:16:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so still FIRS
17:17:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sweet
17:17:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes FIRS
17:17:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 15 station spread
17:17:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its needed for FIRS
17:17:49  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1
17:18:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
17:22:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wrong direction?
17:22:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shit yes
17:22:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
17:22:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> leave this
17:22:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for engy supplies
17:24:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> low TF costs?
17:24:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> low ish
17:24:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> water is still high
17:24:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
17:27:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lets hope I haven't failed :D
17:30:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> planes still expensive?
17:30:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think we will have to stat again
17:30:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
17:31:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> everything is normal
17:31:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know what, you start again
17:31:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> apart from ground TF
17:31:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill try to make this company profitable
17:31:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
17:31:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to ride it out
17:31:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> until we die
17:31:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P okay
17:31:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or we live
17:31:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am not a quiter
17:32:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not saying you are
17:32:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but we can spread the risks
17:32:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have stoped the feeder trains
17:32:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and any a few other
17:37:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need more oil trains
17:38:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, you might have noticed im doing some subsidies
17:38:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I did
17:38:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> godo job
17:38:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bringing in good money
17:38:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> makes a quick buck
17:41:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dear lord
17:42:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
17:42:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you've got our oil trains running with 10 on running costs?
17:42:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 10k
17:42:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
17:43:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I wasn't worried about running costs
17:43:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just looks
17:44:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> isnt a 060 Freight Engine preferable over a 060 tank engine?
17:44:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one vs 2 i mean?
17:44:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah but thats what everyone will use
17:44:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps with good reason -_-
17:44:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so we'll stick with this one
17:45:02  <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven joined the game
17:45:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :D
17:45:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
17:45:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Hi Twerkhoven
17:45:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I want the big tank engine
17:45:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1kHp 60mph
17:45:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not out yet?
17:46:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not out until 1930s
17:46:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why is it called tank engine?
17:46:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it not, but it is a tank engine
17:46:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure of the name
17:48:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really a name for it
17:48:16  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ello, new map i see
17:48:22  <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators
17:48:28  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> just wanted to see
17:51:42  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman joined the game
17:51:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hello
17:52:12  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Hello!
17:53:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> may we should use the other 0-6-0 for new trains
17:53:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which other
17:53:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the Freight engine
17:53:38  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman has started a new company (#2)
17:53:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 0-6-0 Freight
17:53:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or the Tram engine
17:53:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, freight
17:53:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not the tram
17:55:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Flying Dutchman I am not sure if you have played with FIRS befor
17:55:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but its a hard set
17:55:52  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Yes I have.
17:55:54  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Brb
17:55:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you need to get supplies to your fast
17:56:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or they will die
17:56:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
17:56:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ow
17:56:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you couldnt just have used the oil tanker, you had to have the tanker wagon
17:56:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ow?
17:56:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2343/piece vs 375/piece
17:57:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oil tanker only does oil
17:57:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can use it for the oil trains
17:57:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true, would come in use when you do refits and stuff for oil trains
17:57:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but not for supplies
17:58:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but when you're transporting oil in the beginning, i guess low prices matter
17:58:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can mix it up TBH
17:58:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no need to have 1 wagon
17:58:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off in about a minute
17:59:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so it's up to you
17:59:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
17:59:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just made the first new oil train with new engine
17:59:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will keep it running
17:59:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> #13
17:59:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and add more stuff
18:00:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when in dire straits
18:00:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can still sell the pax train
18:00:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *trains
18:00:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are fine now I think
18:00:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb then :D
18:00:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb Troy McClure
18:01:07  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving)
18:01:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am sure you will be back later
18:13:30  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman has joined spectators
18:13:30  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman has left the game (connection lost)
18:13:38  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman joined the game
18:13:39  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Back again.
18:13:45  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Had a phone call.
18:13:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you just went bankrupt
18:13:51  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> I reckoned.
18:13:55  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Doesn't matter.
18:14:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no you only had one station
18:14:07  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> I hadn't got started yet.
18:14:09  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> true.
18:14:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am flirting with bankrupcy
18:15:05  <Stablean> *** Flying Dutchman has started a new company (#2)
18:22:23  <Stablean> <V453000> lo
18:22:23  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
18:22:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lo
18:22:31  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
18:22:33  <Stablean> <V453000> no welcome signs?
18:22:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no, no one is welcome
18:22:51  <Stablean> <V453000> ....
18:23:15  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
18:23:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't even know where the welcome area is now
18:23:42  <V453000> rejoin? :)
18:24:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ppft that is effort
18:26:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oil growth :D
18:26:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Flying Dutchman you will not be able to do that trust me
18:26:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> those industries will close
18:26:54  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Without engineering supplies?
18:26:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
18:27:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you can't make them with that drop
18:27:13  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> I don't remember FIRS doing that.
18:27:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it does
18:27:23  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Ooo.
18:27:43  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> What's your idea then? What industry should I start with?
18:27:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I went with oil
18:27:59  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Or fish etc?
18:28:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but iron works to make supplies
18:28:12  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Any industry without needs on its own.
18:28:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fish will not grow
18:28:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but will not die
18:28:53  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Iron ore mines also has their needs.
18:28:55  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> *its
18:29:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but its easy to make supplies
18:29:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like with oil
18:29:37  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Ok, that way.
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18:42:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3: if you build like that you will go bankrupt
18:42:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> how so?
18:43:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> firs is hard
18:43:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will not make enough money
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18:48:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I am making money slowly so it is working
18:52:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3 why build like that?
18:52:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why not leave me space to expand?
18:53:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> better?
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18:55:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
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18:55:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Flying Dutchman and dh2k3 have you read the server rules?
18:55:57  <Stablean> <dh2k3> no competition, blocking, etc.
18:56:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are a bit different on this server
18:56:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since this is a special server
18:56:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so please read them
18:59:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> basic rules that I've known
18:59:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are but with a few extra ones
18:59:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> there a reason why we can't go more than 7 tiles for train lengths?
18:59:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:00:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you don't build large stations
19:00:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I set it at 7
19:00:19  <Stablean> <dh2k3> so you an admin then?
19:00:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
19:00:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just my map
19:00:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah ok
19:00:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and a regular and friend of admins
19:01:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I think I'm starting to like this instead of the other servers as you use .grf's while others don't
19:01:54  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> I've read the rules
19:02:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its makes it nice
19:02:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we also build carzy things on here
19:03:08  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Just show some understanding to eachother, it's just a game.
19:03:15  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Rules shouldn't be too necessary.
19:03:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> basicaly it
19:03:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not like the one I was on yesterday as someone complained about competition on a competition server
19:03:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> treat people how you want to be treated
19:04:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no competing on hear unless the person who was there first consents to it
19:05:04  <V453000> <Chris Booth> and a regular and friend of admins  !!ENEMY
19:05:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only of you V453000 :DD
19:05:20  <V453000> :P
19:05:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am sure you don't hate me, when I am behaving
19:05:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> slowly starting to make money
19:05:50  <V453000> under these circumstances, I dont :P
19:07:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think I made this map to easy
19:08:22  <V453000> flatass :p
19:08:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to flat
19:08:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> turn TF rate down to only double
19:09:06  <V453000> lol
19:09:18  <V453000> with this flat map it could have been like 100k per tile and nobody could complai
19:09:19  <V453000> n
19:09:50  <V453000> I remember once I did 300k+ per tile in a tropic flatness and nobody complained too muc
19:09:51  <V453000> h
19:09:58  <V453000> just gimps tunnels
19:10:22  <Stablean> <dh2k3> do you allow sharing of tracks, etc.?
19:10:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no, that needs a patch
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19:11:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> a very out dated patch
19:11:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> to me sharing of tracks/stations is more proto :)
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19:11:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> proto?
19:11:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> prototypical
19:11:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is that even a word?
19:12:01  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yup
19:12:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok, well it was in development
19:12:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but the person that wrote the patch stoped supporting it
19:12:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> of, relating to, or being a prototype
19:12:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is now my word of the day
19:13:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> a standard or typical example
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19:15:02  <V453000> in my words infrastructure sharing is shit :p which is not an acronym
19:15:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its not great
19:15:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it annoyed me that people could run slow trains on my tracks
19:15:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if I built to a CL3 standard
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19:15:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> people would put Tl7 241km/h train on my lines
19:15:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then jam then
19:16:09  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> I'm off.
19:16:11  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> See you later.
19:16:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye bey Flying Dutchman
19:16:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you going to be back?
19:16:23  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Enjoy.
19:16:25  <Stablean> <Flying Dutchman> Not sure.
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19:28:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> building materials go where?
19:28:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> stores
19:28:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> builders yards
19:29:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure if we have any
19:29:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have 8
19:33:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> heh oops
19:33:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> note to self: medium stations without power = no power to trains
19:34:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:38:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have made such a cock up of my trains
19:38:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> might do the same with mine
19:39:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what cock them up?
19:39:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not sure yet
19:40:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> is it better to use utility vans or bolster or farm or goods for farm supplies?
19:41:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure
19:43:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 286 crates in utility vans
19:43:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> sometimes bigger is not better
19:44:14  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 280 in goods
19:44:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 280 in open
19:45:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 280 in bolster
19:45:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 340 in covered
19:46:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 340 vs 280 vs 286
19:47:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> doh refit for wrong cargo doh
19:48:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dutch you there?
19:48:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no he left
19:50:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> can't build railroad station here?
19:50:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
19:50:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> a town
19:51:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what town?
19:51:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> give it a name!
19:51:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wafintay-on-sea
19:51:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why can't you build ont there?
19:51:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> don't know says that message
19:52:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I dont know
19:52:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can build there
19:52:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you should be able to
19:59:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now I need to think about other cargos
19:59:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> same
19:59:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am getting a nice network now though
19:59:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> mine is slowly getting there
20:00:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know my oil areas look silly with those little trains
20:00:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but they are a great way to exploit FIRS
20:00:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and make your primary grow
20:00:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and mine look weird with what they are doing
20:00:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not used to firs
20:01:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> only nars or ukrs
20:01:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> industry don't grow unless you supply them with supplies
20:03:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> <3 UKRS
20:03:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> best set
20:03:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not that keen on NARS
20:03:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> <-- knows the author
20:03:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you know pikka
20:03:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> aye he was big into Trainz before he got into OTTD
20:04:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> he has made some nice sets
20:04:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not a fan of the limits he has placed on UKRS 2
20:04:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with the GEC 91
20:05:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shit
20:05:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I know I'm broke
20:06:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not anymore
20:06:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ty
20:06:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> np
20:08:41  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 235k in train income is not bad
20:08:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its not that bad
20:08:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not 1million but not bad
20:09:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> most trains make between 5-18k
20:09:31  <Stablean> *** Ediz joined the game
20:09:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Ediz
20:09:47  <V453000> GEC 91 might be the very obvious difference of UKRS2 but where I see the problem most is a lack of the throughout-the-game variety :(
20:10:11  <V453000> hi Ediz
20:10:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes its missing a few big locos
20:10:22  <Stablean> *** LukE joined the game
20:10:24  <Stablean> <Ediz> good games
20:10:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you don't get all the nice speed sets
20:10:26  <Stablean> *** Ediz has started a new company (#4)
20:10:26  <V453000> !rcon kick 358
20:10:26  <Stablean> V453000: players
20:10:26  <Stablean> V453000: server_info
20:10:26  <Stablean> V453000: clients
20:10:28  <Stablean> V453000: echo doneclientcount
20:10:28  <Stablean> V453000: #:1(Green) Company Name: 'Chris Booth Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 504637  Loan: 0  Value: 1991067  (T:53, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
20:10:30  <Stablean> V453000: you have 15 more messages
20:10:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
20:10:44  <Stablean> *** Ediz joined the game
20:10:51  <V453000> ok
20:10:52  <Stablean> <Ediz> ı am my company
20:11:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Ediz: you know you are baned
20:11:04  <V453000> you are still banned though
20:11:21  <Stablean> <Ediz> Chris Booth: why
20:11:25  <V453000> !rcon ban 362
20:11:25  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 348 "Please visit"
20:11:25  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 348 "Available Commands:"
20:11:25  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 348 "!help -- this help"
20:11:25  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 348 "!name \"newname\" -- change nickname"
20:11:25  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 348 "!version -- version of the server bot"
20:11:26  <Stablean> V453000: you have 12 more messages
20:11:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't know why
20:11:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you are banned
20:11:42  <V453000> because he is retarded
20:11:44  <V453000> that is why
20:11:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and auto-kicked
20:12:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no kick by Admins in IRC
20:12:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah that is cool they can do that remotely without being in the game to do it
20:12:30  <Chris_Booth> that is how V45300 talks
20:12:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah :)
20:13:21  <Stablean> *** LukE has started a new company (#4)
20:13:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> that is new as I haven't updated ottd since 0.7.5 version
20:13:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3: no its lod
20:13:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just need to run the server using AutoPilot
20:13:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> lod?
20:14:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> old
20:14:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> oh
20:14:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> been around since 0.4.x
20:14:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> my friend has a map of the UK/Europe with the share tracks/station patch and it is interesting
20:15:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> some would say that
20:15:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> other would say stupid
20:15:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> my 2 pet hates
20:15:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> real maps
20:15:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and sharing tracks
20:16:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> depends on how you look at it as you can run your own network but if you share tracjs as long as you cooperate then it's ok
20:16:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and not build weird track networks
20:16:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, but what I found is I built large network with short train lengths
20:16:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like my one now
20:17:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I would give access to my lines and people would run long train on my lines
20:17:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to long for my corners
20:17:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and then slow all my trains down
20:17:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is just retarded
20:17:26  <Stablean> <dh2k3> unless they build to go with your flow then
20:17:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nuTrack can help
20:18:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> by limiting train speeds
20:18:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so people don't run fast trains on your lines
20:18:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but doesn't stop people running long slow trains
20:18:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> they can if you have 4 track mains 2 for fast and 2 for slow
20:18:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Luke by any chance are you Ediz?
20:21:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> my main drop is getting busy
20:21:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> my need to build LL_RR entrance soon
20:27:23  <Stablean> <dh2k3> mind if I pickup farm supplies from you?
20:27:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
20:27:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have no plan to use them at the moment
20:28:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the only thig I will say is I am going to need to expand my refinery soon
20:32:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> LukE please leave room for others to play
20:32:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't build next to people lines link that
20:32:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> am I fine?
20:32:59  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
20:33:06  <Stablean> <V453000> law comes
20:33:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3 you are 100% fine
20:33:10  <Stablean> <LukE> please place sign for me
20:33:26  <Stablean> <V453000> Chris Booth: 100% not ediz. the last line makes sense
20:33:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> realy ok
20:33:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> checked ip's?
20:33:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3 I even gave you a thanks sign
20:33:53  <Stablean> <LukE> ok, and then ?
20:34:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to move my machine shop soon dh2k3
20:34:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you can still take my FS
20:34:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:34:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what do you mean by move?
20:34:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> leaving 2+ tiles is what we generaly use
20:34:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> going to go to !shop
20:35:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so I can have a nice distinction between main lines and side lines
20:35:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ok now I'm confused by what you mean :S
20:35:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check my sign !shop
20:35:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am move my station there
20:35:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its a sign
20:35:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in the sign list
20:35:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we just ! so it goes to the top of the list
20:35:54  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
20:36:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah got it :)
20:36:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> you still going to supply it or not?
20:36:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am
20:36:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k
20:36:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will tell you when I move
20:36:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you can move aswell
20:37:05  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I'll take the farm supplies as it works :)
20:37:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> might be fast but not interested in the steamer
20:37:38  <Stablean> <LukE> is it ok now ?
20:37:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it is luke thanks
20:37:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> <3
20:37:52  <Stablean> <LukE> ok, np
20:38:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I gave you a present
20:39:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hmm if I build iron ore > steel > metal then it's a win-win for both of us
20:39:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it is
20:39:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and the machine shop will still work :)
20:41:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> think that will be my next task
20:41:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I might leave my lines where they are
20:41:23  <Stablean> <dh2k3> iron ore > metal > machine shop
20:41:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats a good way to make money
20:41:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can drop supplies at you Iron mine for you aswell
20:41:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> win-win for both of us as you take machine and I'll supply the farms :D
20:42:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> of course that means track reconfigurations
20:55:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> new trains
20:55:21  <Stablean> <LukE> where?
20:55:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am getting new trians
20:55:47  <Stablean> <LukE> me too
20:57:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going green
21:00:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k route set just need to wait it out
21:01:40  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
21:01:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Anson
21:02:24  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
21:02:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> come one money get flowing
21:03:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> make self growing route like I have
21:03:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oil is drops
21:03:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> petrol makes supplies
21:03:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> supplies grow oil
21:03:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oil make petro
21:03:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> etc etc
21:04:28  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, something different in this game :-) ... station spread 15 instead of 5, 7 or 12, and TL 7 instead of 64 :-)
21:04:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yup
21:05:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TL7 is enough
21:05:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but 15 allow big drops
21:05:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> <3 my operating profit
21:05:40  <Stablean> <Anson> who used TL 64 anyway ? :-)
21:05:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure
21:06:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I would hope no one
21:06:42  <Stablean> <Anson> does it make sense to have TL bigger than station spread ? ... wouldn't loading times be insane ?
21:07:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I would say no
21:07:19  <Stablean> <dh2k3> alright Chris iron ore > metal > machine shop soon :)
21:07:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 75 mph rail soon
21:08:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> need those canenary for 144kmh :)
21:08:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why?
21:08:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no electic train goes 100mph
21:08:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> cause trains are only doing 120/144 ;)
21:08:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats fine
21:09:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> oops bad signaling on my part
21:09:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats higher than stander nutracks
21:10:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am finaly make use of track that have been out for 10 years
21:10:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and trains that have been out for 20 XD
21:10:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I am calling it new
21:11:06  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear engineering supplies please come to me
21:11:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
21:11:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will send some
21:11:57  <Stablean> <dh2k3> engineering supplies > iron ore > metal > engineering supplies
21:13:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> win-win ya?
21:13:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:14:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> is that the only ore mine I see :S
21:14:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have set up 2 trains
21:14:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can fund more
21:14:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah there are 2
21:15:01  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and within the max station spread :D
21:15:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 train and a month feeder
21:18:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah you have a transer service I see
21:18:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:18:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> means it gets it every month
21:19:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> smart :)
21:22:22  <Stablean> <dh2k3> LOL nice turntable :D
21:22:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i just watched prindhattan stations ... really nice setup ...
21:22:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I like that turn table
21:23:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> took me some time to work out all the puzzle pieces
21:23:12  <Stablean> <Anson> but when all stations are built like that, does it make sense to leave that annoying work of setting up to the users, to do it for each and every station again ?
21:24:09  <Stablean> <Anson> wouldn't it make more sense when oil wells or other industries simply use the minimum required supplies instead of using everything up immediately ?
21:24:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is what things like YACD are for
21:24:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want a brainless game
21:25:56  <Stablean> <Anson> i like to invest brains in networks, station layouts, etc ... but not having to do the same base construction over and over again
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21:27:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that sucks
21:27:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its pure eyecany
21:27:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I cant send a train into it
21:29:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ok Chris double ore mines
21:30:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wse have 2 now?
21:30:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> check the far corner by us
21:30:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> found it
21:31:43  <Stablean> <Anson> checking the green lines some more ... to hopefully learn something :-)
21:31:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> aw mine are weird :P
21:32:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are a mess
21:32:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't look at them
21:32:20  <Stablean> <Anson> is there a reason why tracks with speed 120 and 160 are alternating at coordinates 37 x 298 ?
21:32:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
21:32:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> where?
21:32:55  <Stablean> <LukE> where?
21:33:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
21:33:11  <Stablean> <Anson> without company, i can use only coordinates, but not set up signs
21:33:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ok near what town
21:33:37  <Stablean> <Anson> winfingburg
21:33:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whose lines?
21:34:02  <Stablean> <Anson> south of it, the bypass sections for opposite direction trains
21:34:08  <Stablean> <Anson> blue
21:34:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I see it
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21:35:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> found it
21:35:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> another feeder Chris?
21:35:50  <Stablean> <Anson> i set up two signs
21:35:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:35:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k
21:36:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> we found it Amson
21:36:42  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : did you know that "planning tracks" can be used for logic functions, setting up logic connections, with signals, etc ?
21:36:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they can be used to connect signals
21:37:02  <Stablean> <dh2k3> nope but do now
21:38:20  <Stablean> <Anson> on the other hand, a logic function that i had built stopped working when i replaced a single tile by a different track type ... pathfinder seems to pay attention to the speed of unused logic tracks
21:38:30  <Stablean> <LukE> first you plan, then convert
21:38:40  <Stablean> <Anson> trains suddenly started moving into a dead end :-(
21:40:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 2nd long ore train levaing
21:41:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 61k Chris
21:41:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lets hope I don't bleed my oil supplies now
21:42:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> should be ok
21:42:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> got at 621k well
21:42:22  <Stablean> <Anson> do those 120/160 tracks have some meaning on the passenger line ? ... and the alternating 120/160 a bit down the line too ?
21:42:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> that was train profit from the ore train
21:42:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at my yearly profit
21:45:04  <Stablean> <Anson> on the green line, i see a "?crossing for parallel bridge tracks" ... is that intended ? and if yes, then why ?
21:45:06  <Stablean> <dh2k3> medium speed cat is what year?
21:45:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
21:45:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh those
21:45:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:45:41  <Stablean> <Anson> sign "crossing for parallel bridges" :-)
21:45:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats what we call X syncing
21:46:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> mean both paths are equal lengths
21:46:16  <Stablean> <Anson> so that one train doesn't start overtaking ?
21:46:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:46:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> now I'm making money
21:47:15  <Stablean> <Anson> learning from the pro's :-)
21:47:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> see Anson I help Chris and he helps me as it's a win-win for both of us :)
21:47:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to make more supplies now
21:48:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> built a lumber yard
21:48:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> machine? :)
21:48:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to turn my chemicals into ES
21:48:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> oh I have chemicals
21:48:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> just need the wood
21:48:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can turn them into FS
21:48:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> drop chemicals at a fertiliser plant
21:49:34  <Stablean> <Anson> will be back later ... some chores again in RL :-(
21:49:41  <Stablean> <dh2k3> omg me idiot
21:49:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
21:50:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> lumber yard makes building and engineering supplies
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21:50:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:51:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fertiliser plant makes FS
21:51:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> everyone do not buy anson
21:51:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> unless you want to die
21:51:57  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ok :D
21:52:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I warn you now
21:53:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3: that is a bad way to drop supplie
21:53:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> will make you money
21:53:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but will make funny production booms and busts
21:53:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is one of the reasons I use the feeders
21:53:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> which is good or bad as you still make money
21:54:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good you make money
21:54:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but your iron trains will go mad
21:54:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not really as they wait for a full load anyways
21:54:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
21:54:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you drop lots of supply
21:55:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> get a production spike
21:55:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then a few onths on a big drop
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22:03:50  <Stablean> <dh2k3> note to self: refit trains to pickup cargo
22:05:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I am finally debt free
22:06:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I see no one bought anson
22:06:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :D
22:32:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how gave 100k
22:32:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I paid you back
22:34:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
22:34:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you didn't have to
22:34:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't need it
22:34:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> you loaned me 100k so I paid you back the 100k
22:34:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice growth in your ore mines
22:34:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yup
22:35:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I now have a 700k oil well
22:38:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you need more ore trains @ Benington Mines dh2k3
22:38:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yup I do
22:39:05  <Stablean> <dh2k3> cloning
22:39:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 400 tonnes + not bad
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22:41:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> darn it I forgot to put industry prospecting on
22:42:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear medium high speed cat please come soon
22:42:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Benington Mines doesn't need to be 1 full staion dh2k3
22:42:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can use a station walk
22:42:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yeah I know but wasn't sure if that was allowed or not Chris
22:43:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is perfered to a big station block
22:44:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I want to use New Flunningwell Wells but it breaks the rules
22:45:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what do you mean?
22:45:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Dutch uses that well
22:45:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> It would be steeling if I used it
22:45:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah but you can use the duble sand/stone though ;)
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22:46:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wasn't planing on doind sand
22:46:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> want oil and ore
22:50:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hope you don't mind me chopping some trees for lumber :)
22:51:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nope
22:51:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey Chris crazy network confige now
22:52:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
22:52:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> look at Rutfield South
22:52:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you want me to build more?
22:52:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is bad
22:53:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lots of wrong signals
22:55:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I left you some notes dh2k3
22:57:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> notes where?
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23:04:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> on your bad junction
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23:22:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> still bad?
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23:55:05  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> hi
23:55:43  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> anybody here speak english?
23:56:45  <V453000> no
23:56:58  <V453000> this is a turkish only server
23:57:05  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> lol
23:57:17  <Stablean> <Khaos_Raider> nobody would let me test my junction :(
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