Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 15th June 2011:
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00:09:31  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> reeddd
00:09:39  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> i am red
00:09:53  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> could you change something :3
00:10:03  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> one change kostes 1 M
00:10:05  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> make the bridges longer
00:10:07  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> costs*
00:10:33  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> uhm
00:10:43  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> longer bridges could cos jam
00:10:49  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ow okay
00:19:43  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> dh2k3:
00:21:28  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> finally
00:34:53  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> yey!
00:34:57  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> no more jams
00:35:02  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> why?
00:35:33  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> cuz i solved le problem
00:37:13  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> still 4k iron ore at station :P
00:37:17  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> cant handle it
00:37:23  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> more trains :D
00:37:33  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> 38 trains already on it :O
00:37:47  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> so?
00:38:01  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> have you seen it? :P
00:38:11  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> ive up to 60 or even more trains
00:38:15  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> on a station
00:38:43  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> true
00:38:53  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> bit mine are large and stupid :P
00:43:56  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> k now im really gonna sleep
00:44:03  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> good night :)
00:44:23  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> thank you :D
00:44:29  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> c you tommorow
00:44:31  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> maybe :D
00:44:37  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> maybe :D
00:46:58  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> maglav 800k a year :D
00:52:28  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> its takes 43 trains to ship 50 %
00:54:17  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> now im really leaving lol
00:55:05  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> 1.2k steel a motnh
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01:20:19  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, sleepless people and americans :-)
01:20:37  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> leaving soon
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08:14:52  <V453000> !date
08:14:53  <Stablean> V453000: 17 Jan 2035
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08:18:33  <TWerkhoven> mornin
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08:37:32  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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08:41:33  <Stablean> <V453000> what are you doing Phil :o
08:41:48  <Stablean> <Phil> killing my company :(
08:41:50  <Stablean> <V453000> destroyed your company again?
08:41:52  <Stablean> <V453000> why
08:41:54  <Stablean> <V453000> just buy a ship
08:42:06  <Stablean> <Phil> oh yeah i forgot about that
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08:42:17  <Stablean> <V453000> but why do you delete it in the first place? :o
08:43:19  <Stablean> <Phil> i killed my main company last night because rip rinus built a main line right in front of one of my main station exits and i couldn't expand it without turning my station 90 degrees which i tried but made a mess of iy
08:43:27  <Stablean> <V453000> .........
08:43:30  <Stablean> <Phil> so got annoyed and killed the company
08:43:34  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
08:44:09  <Stablean> <Phil> that staion was handling over 100 trains too :(
08:44:35  <Stablean> <V453000> new game tomorrow or tonight if nobody is active
08:45:01  <Stablean> <V453000> possibly with some more water so it separates people a bit more
08:45:16  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> FIRS or non-firs?
08:45:28  <Stablean> <V453000> certainly not firs
08:45:31  <Stablean> <Phil> good i hate briding peeps all the time :)
08:45:37  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> aww
08:45:39  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :(
08:45:50  <Stablean> <Phil> all land maps are good if they are 2000x2000 :D
08:45:56  <Stablean> <V453000> to lag?
08:46:11  <Stablean> <Phil> my rig wont lag if your server wont
08:46:13  <Stablean> <V453000> 2k x 2k is plain stupid
08:46:52  <Stablean> <Phil> had 7k trains before off line and fully zoomed out with now lag
08:47:04  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant have 7k trains without a patch
08:47:41  <Stablean> <Phil> umm there used to be away to get around train limits which is now fixed :(
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08:51:50  <Stablean> <Phil> what size is this map? 500x500?
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08:52:46  <Stablean> <Phil> woohoo
08:52:49  <Stablean> <Phil> my company died
08:53:07  <Stablean> <Phil> hey beaver
08:53:13  <Stablean> <Phil> where are you from?
08:53:13  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> uhm
08:53:19  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> beaverland
08:53:29  <Stablean> <Phil> where's that exact;y?
08:53:39  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> somewhere in europe
08:53:45  <Stablean> <Phil> narrow it down
08:53:51  <Stablean> <Phil> europe is a big place
08:53:57  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> nah its small
08:54:03  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> compared to america
08:54:06  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> or australia
08:54:08  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> or asia
08:54:11  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> or africa
08:54:22  <Stablean> <Phil> like i said europe is a big place
08:54:45  <Stablean> <Phil> why's it secret? lol
08:55:01  <V453000> why do you care :p
08:55:06  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> so to make ppl wonder why I am from
08:55:10  <Stablean> <Phil> just curios
08:55:13  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> where*
08:55:23  <Stablean> <Phil> just like know where people are from
08:55:47  <Stablean> <Phil> i wondered where u were from before i knew it was secret so thats fails
08:56:01  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> no no the trick is
08:56:07  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> you now get even more curious
08:56:10  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> because I wont tell
08:56:17  <Stablean> <Phil> not really no
08:56:25  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> aww
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08:56:27  <Stablean> <Phil> just think you're scared or something
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08:58:54  <Stablean> <ISISI> hello :)
08:59:10  <Stablean> <Phil> hey there
09:02:20  <Stablean> <Phil> hey v how do you make the running costs of ships so high
09:02:26  <Stablean> <Phil> do you use a patch?
09:04:26  <Stablean> <ISISI> this is too complicated for me :D
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09:04:35  <Stablean> <Phil> cya
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09:29:13  <V453000> Phil: rather easily, basecosts mod newgrf
09:29:21  <V453000> can change basically any cost
09:29:37  <Stablean> <Phil> thx for that :)
09:29:46  <Stablean> <Rieksts> woa, i wont be able to start a new comapny
09:29:55  <Stablean> <Rieksts> just used 200k on 1 station
09:30:26  <Stablean> <Phil> just build single platforms and only use medium speed rail to start?
09:30:34  <Stablean> <Rieksts> agh
09:30:44  <Stablean> <Rieksts> fastest one was selected by default :D
09:30:54  <Stablean> <Rieksts> forgot about that mod
09:31:04  <Stablean> <Phil> :/
09:31:32  <Stablean> <Phil> i need food
09:31:39  <Stablean> <Phil> full english here i cometh
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09:44:39  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> hi
09:44:51  <Stablean> <Phil> hey
09:44:57  <Stablean> <Rieksts> hi
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09:50:33  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> hi :D
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09:51:12  <Stablean> <Phil> rip you're jammed
09:51:24  <Stablean> <Phil> @ lebowak heights
09:51:33  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> thankyou
09:51:46  <Stablean> <Phil> looks like iy fixed it's self
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09:52:46  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> beaver
09:52:50  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> dont you ever sleep?
09:53:12  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> you know what I think about sleep
09:53:18  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> its for suckers :D
09:53:45  <Stablean> <Phil> sleep is few newb
09:53:51  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> i got the uglyest network ever
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09:59:14  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ah god no
09:59:20  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ...
09:59:27  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> well
09:59:33  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> solves one problem
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10:38:59  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> having 75 trains on one station doest work so fine :p
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10:42:12  <Stablean> <kranky> Rip_Rinus your 25th train is stuck :/
10:42:34  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> than you :D
10:42:41  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> working on it :D
10:42:48  <Stablean> <kranky> :)
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10:55:06  <Stablean> <Phil> oh ho black beaver bamalam
10:55:13  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> where?
10:55:27  <Stablean> <Phil> everytime i see your name i start signing balck betty in my head :/
10:55:41  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lol
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11:04:23  <Stablean> <Phil> rip jammed at lebowak again
11:04:53  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> was showring
11:05:07  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> forgot to finsih signals :(
11:05:17  <Stablean> <Phil> hehe ok
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11:18:45  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> hahah
11:18:49  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> GO MY ZEPLLINS
11:19:07  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> OMG THE SOVIETS ARE COMING
11:19:14  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> MUahahhahahah
11:19:20  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> red alert
11:19:20  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> lol
11:19:22  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :D
11:19:40  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> kirov
11:19:42  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :D
11:19:52  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> 2 zeppelins costed me 100mil :p
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11:20:36  <Stablean> <V453000> lo
11:20:59  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> quite odd
11:21:05  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> a zeppilin can land
11:21:11  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> on a top af a building...
11:21:24  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> thought the same
11:21:30  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> hahaah
11:21:41  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#9)
11:21:46  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> so could it land on an oil rig?
11:22:10  <Stablean> <V453000> btw the Skylift 150 is even a "replica" of Kirof
11:22:13  <Stablean> <V453000> Kirov
11:22:15  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> what did you say?
11:22:27  <Stablean> <V453000> just try it
11:22:29  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> beaver?
11:22:39  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> try land the zeppelin on an oil rig
11:22:45  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> it can :D
11:22:48  <Stablean> <V453000> of course ...
11:23:26  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> hmm skylift
11:23:36  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> will likely kill my company..
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11:24:02  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lol
11:24:04  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :D
11:24:06  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> :D
11:24:13  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> looks very weird
11:24:19  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ye :p
11:24:48  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> make zeplins to :D
11:24:54  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> they kickass!
11:25:08  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> their running costs kickass too
11:25:18  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> care :D
11:25:18  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> :O
11:25:20  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> g2g
11:25:26  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> see u guys in
11:25:30  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> 5,5 hours :D
11:25:57  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> on the other hand
11:26:03  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> this map will restart anyway soon
11:26:05  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> wont it
11:26:13  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> dunno
11:26:20  <Stablean> <V453000> as you want pretty much
11:26:31  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe, yes
11:26:34  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> so lets do some zeppelins
11:27:08  <Stablean> <V453000> I have even settings ready but I need to generate some good map still :)
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11:27:26  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> well wont play next game
11:27:29  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> probably
11:27:35  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> because non-firs
11:27:37  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :P
11:27:39  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> nooo
11:27:39  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ;p
11:28:25  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> zeppelin or airship?
11:28:35  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> ur choice
11:28:37  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> :D
11:28:54  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> well got to run :D
11:28:57  <Stablean> <Rip_Rinus> cya guys!
11:29:00  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> ok cya
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11:31:28  <V453000> lol "because non-firs"
11:31:48  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> sorry, but since ive played firs
11:31:52  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> i dont like standard anymore
11:34:31  <TWerkhoven> sssh, you're gonna make V load ecs
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11:47:41  <V453000> TWerkhoven: that would take some extreme effort :p
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12:01:42  <Stablean> <Phil> wtf does no power mean?
12:01:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
12:01:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at engine?
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12:02:00  <Stablean> <Phil> yesh white train 8
12:02:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how about electrify that piec of rail?
12:02:18  <Stablean> <Phil> aha doh
12:02:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you started over?
12:02:52  <Stablean> <Phil> thx ):)
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12:03:29  <Stablean> <Phil> killed my company last night due to rip rinus building a mainline in front og one of my large drop station
12:03:51  <Stablean> <Phil> only way to expand it was turn the station 90 degree and i did that but made a mess of it :(
12:04:01  <Stablean> <Phil> so got annoyed and killed my company
12:04:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that line I removed for you?
12:04:14  <V453000> if you feel like killing the company solves it ...
12:04:37  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah you removed that line after I'd stated moving the station so it wa too late
12:04:50  <Stablean> <Phil> it leaves my annoyed yes v
12:04:54  <Stablean> <Phil> releaves
12:05:24  <V453000> thats rather sad
12:05:33  <Stablean> <Phil> sad but true
12:06:16  <Stablean> <Phil> end of the day my company was borked and i'd already wated 2 hours trying to fix it
12:06:22  <Stablean> <Phil> wasn't prepared to waste any more
12:06:30  <Stablean> <Phil> i had better stuff to do heh
12:09:18  <Stablean> <Phil> knewi shouldn't haved that station tbh
12:09:31  <Stablean> <Phil> for some reason I build stuff from scratch and make it work
12:09:38  <Stablean> <Phil> i have to add to stuff over time
12:09:48  <Stablean> <Phil> that's why i wont play on your public server
12:09:54  <Stablean> <Phil> cos i'd fail big time
12:10:22  <Stablean> <Phil> i can't build stuff from scratch* should say
12:16:33  <V453000> not like that is impossible to learn ;)
12:17:55  <Stablean> <Phil> well i've benn playing this game since tt was first released and I've tried many times setting out a plan and building hubs all at one go and i failed everytime unless I've copied one from off the net
12:18:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is learnable
12:18:19  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> ugh same here
12:18:23  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> problems with hubs
12:18:25  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> >_>
12:18:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is how the welcome server works, in fact
12:18:37  <Stablean> <Phil> i can build hubs black beaver
12:18:43  <Stablean> <Phil> but not in one go
12:18:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry, the public server
12:19:09  <Stablean> <Phil> they start out as a simple 3 way junction usually and i add extra lines as and when needed
12:19:20  <Stablean> <Phil> but to build one in one go, i suck haha
12:19:47  <Stablean> <Phil> so how would i go about leabing building them from scratch?
12:19:56  <V453000> try I guess
12:20:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
12:20:16  <Stablean> <Phil> lol i've been trying for 10 years ish
12:20:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check the junction inventory on openttdcoop
12:20:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have a tip
12:20:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I always build my SLH's and MSH for two lanes
12:21:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> since that will be the basic density at which to build them
12:21:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you'll hardly see single laned Mainlines
12:21:58  <V453000> simply put: you will hardly learn that here :)
12:22:08  <Stablean> <Phil> i can't build single track mainline hunbs from scratch,  so dual line hubs are miles off for me
12:22:26  <Stablean> <Phil> and yeah i can copy any hub from the net no problem looking at pics
12:22:36  <V453000> copy is useless
12:22:38  <Stablean> <Phil> but without a pic im doomed
12:22:52  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i know it is :)
12:23:21  <V453000> well, if you are lost without a picture, then you probably dont know what are you doing, which usually comes from insufficient experience
12:23:54  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> in short: play more open ttd
12:24:00  <Stablean> <Phil> I've been playing on and off for 10 years
12:24:02  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> more often*
12:24:28  <V453000> well 10 years, then probably wrongly :p
12:24:46  <Stablean> <Phil> even played transport tycooon before ottd was released
12:25:09  <Stablean> <Phil> wrongly? all my netowrk works
12:25:14  <V453000> sure I did
12:25:18  <V453000> well, everything works
12:25:36  <V453000> but if you want to learn *something* you have to try that until you succeed
12:25:54  <Stablean> <Phil> but that's because idd to them over time rather than simply building them in one go then setting off
12:26:17  <V453000> no
12:26:30  <V453000> well partially it could be
12:26:38  <Stablean> <Phil> 100% it is :P
12:27:18  <V453000> so I would suggest doing the same you do normally - play from Ĺ_R but this time, focus on thinking the network layout more throroughly - write down where is which 3way hub and what kind of a hub it is
12:27:29  <V453000> to prevent having a random mess of rails
12:28:20  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i could do that no problem
12:28:36  <V453000> might bring some good results
12:28:54  <Stablean> <Phil> what i can't do is simply say right a hub needs to go here,  therefore I shal simply build one and it will work
12:29:27  <Stablean> <Phil> if have to take it steady and add to it as I need stuff rather than build it in one go
12:30:23  <Stablean> <Phil> on one of my first games on this server ihad a massive lll_rrr 3 way hub
12:30:33  <Stablean> <Phil> so i can build them
12:30:47  <Stablean> <Phil> but i didn't look and see a place for hub and built it
12:30:53  <Stablean> <Phil> as i added more lines
12:30:59  <Stablean> <Phil> i simply connected them up
12:31:05  <Stablean> <Phil> slowly and over time
12:31:21  <Stablean> <Phil> that for me is perfectly doable
12:32:26  <Stablean> <Phil> if you can suggest any way of building them from scratch then I'd like to know
12:32:55  <Stablean> <Phil> but simply put,  I think some people are like in very other thing. better at this game than me :)
12:33:17  <Stablean> <Phil> there's probably stuff in life i can you that you can't
12:33:19  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> like rip rinus
12:33:35  <Stablean> <Phil> however in terms off ottd you beat me :)
12:33:54  <Stablean> <Phil> what about rip rinus?
12:34:00  <V453000> I do not believe you "cant"
12:34:24  <V453000> you just need to stop, look and think "connect what with what?"
12:34:46  <V453000> and with that should help you building systematically with L_R
12:35:02  <V453000> or of course trying it from the scratch over and over again
12:35:28  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've done that probably 1000's of times on off line games
12:35:49  <V453000> we will see I will focus more on some of your constructions in the next game here
12:35:57  <Stablean> <Phil> i've litterally spent 6 hours on one hub only to get nowhere and give in :/
12:36:13  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah ok
12:36:21  <Stablean> <Phil> any help is appreciated
12:36:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you dont only have to think: what to connect
12:37:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but also what do i actually want
12:37:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what am i doing?
12:37:28  <Stablean> <Phil> in regards to what?
12:37:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> to your network
12:37:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it might apply to other aspects of your life too, but we're here in ottd
12:38:03  <Mazur> I need trains to go from A to B and from area C to B, and from area C to A.
12:38:19  <Mazur> So I need a hub between the three.
12:38:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> heh, or a loop :P
12:39:00  <Mazur> But most of that willbe between A and B, so htat will be my Main Line.
12:39:22  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah ok then
12:39:30  <Stablean> <Phil> the what and why are the easy part
12:39:32  <Stablean> <Phil> for me at least
12:39:42  <Stablean> <Phil> the hard part is connecting them
12:39:46  <Stablean> <Phil> all at one go
12:39:52  <Stablean> <Phil> rather than over time
12:39:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know if that is the easy part for you
12:40:00  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it is
12:40:26  <Stablean> <Phil> knowing where i want trains to go and why is piece of piss
12:40:38  <Stablean> <Phil> making it happen is tough
12:42:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you building anything now, Phil?
12:42:19  <V453000> well why dont you connect one connection at a time
12:42:34  <Stablean> <Phil> nope not atm
12:42:46  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah I do that v
12:43:20  <Stablean> <Phil> waiting for reset before i start again
12:46:43  <Stablean> <Phil> right off the bank to sort stuff out and for swim
12:46:45  <Stablean> <Phil> bll
12:46:48  <Stablean> <Phil> se you
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12:46:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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12:50:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> high V
12:50:17  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
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13:06:32  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm a reset wouldnt be that bad idea I guess (?)
13:06:42  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> reseeeeeeeeet
13:06:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It is very crowded
13:06:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but shouldnt we wait for Phil?
13:07:06  <Stablean> <V453000> we could wait for everyone that way
13:07:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so he can get right on building correctly?
13:07:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know
13:07:17  <Stablean> <V453000> I made a double sized map
13:07:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> double sized
13:07:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sweet
13:07:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> twice as broad, and twice as heigh?
13:07:37  <Stablean> <V453000> with water to make it not-so-big but should be just fine
13:07:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, you like your lakes :P
13:07:54  <Stablean> <V453000> the latest games just became too crowded
13:08:00  <Stablean> <V453000> and I like my lakes :p
13:08:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, previous game, all 15 (16?) slots were filled
13:08:22  <Stablean> <V453000> 15, yes
13:08:25  <Stablean> <V453000> there are 16 colours
13:08:49  <Stablean> <V453000> ok, lets go?
13:08:52  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> yes
13:08:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure
13:09:02  <V453000> !restart
13:09:02  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
13:09:04  <V453000> back in a minute
13:09:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
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13:10:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.1.1.
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13:10:27  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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13:10:58  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 1
13:10:59  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
13:11:05  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#1)
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13:11:09  <V453000> !auto
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13:11:11  <V453000> there we go :)
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13:11:26  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> waterrrr
13:11:28  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> nice
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13:13:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err
13:13:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V?
13:13:16  <Stablean> <V453000> y?
13:13:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> station spread 64?
13:13:24  <Stablean> <V453000> ha thx
13:13:32  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 6
13:13:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 10?
13:13:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> pretty please :)
13:13:53  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 4
13:14:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmpf
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13:14:16  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 10
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13:16:48  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
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13:27:03  <Stablean> <Rieksts> oh a new map
13:27:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, just started
13:27:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanna join me?
13:27:27  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yea
13:27:29  <Stablean> <Rieksts> letd do this
13:27:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont actually have much cash
13:27:39  <Stablean> <Rieksts> np
13:27:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and low incomeatm
13:27:47  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i can wait
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13:31:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, perhaps ive been too ambitious
13:37:31  <Stablean> <V453000> :o
13:37:35  <Stablean> <V453000> I forgot BK tunnels
13:37:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no weight multiplier btw?
13:37:57  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, none
13:38:06  <Stablean> <V453000> hold on I will add the tunnels in a minute
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13:40:17  <Stablean> <V453000> good >]
13:40:19  <Stablean> <V453000> :]
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13:40:25  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
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13:45:34  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :d
13:51:18  <Stablean> <V453000> not starting again? :(
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13:54:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wow water
13:54:52  <Stablean> <V453000> and a gigantic map. hi :p
13:55:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this looks like one I will have to play
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14:01:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
14:01:34  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
14:01:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> went bankrupt, i guess
14:01:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok so you are joining me?
14:05:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what are you doing that train is to long
14:05:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that one is 3.0
14:11:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oht, there
14:11:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nvm
14:12:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Trunnford is farther away
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14:21:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> great genius
14:21:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
14:21:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> slag
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14:22:39  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
14:22:41  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
14:22:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:22:49  <Stablean> <Anson> and .... HELP, I'm drowning :-)
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14:24:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Phil
14:25:00  <Stablean> <Phil> hey there troy
14:25:10  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
14:25:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Phil
14:25:31  <Stablean> <Phil> hello all
14:26:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, Phil, ready to be judged by your building skills?
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14:26:51  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah sure :)
14:26:57  <Stablean> <Phil> well
14:26:59  <Stablean> <akebono> hey guys
14:27:01  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
14:27:03  <Stablean> <Phil> ready to be toldi suck
14:27:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
14:27:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you suck
14:27:22  <Stablean> <Phil> haha thx
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14:34:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(clcalc erail 1)
14:34:01  <Webster> Stablean: A rail Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles) gives a speed of 88km/h or 55mph
14:34:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: realy?
14:34:39  <Mks> ohh new map again?
14:34:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no just an old map
14:34:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we reset date XD
14:35:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> chris, not for me, but for phil
14:35:23  <Mks> mmm
14:35:32  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i see but since that's staion exit does it matter?
14:35:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lateron it will
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14:36:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it is far from pretty too
14:36:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> works reasonably with only one station bay
14:36:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but if you need one station bay
14:37:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you are thinking too small
14:37:36  <Stablean> <Phil> where now?
14:37:56  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i know about signal gaps
14:38:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, termini can function (almost) as good as Roro
14:38:39  <Stablean> <Phil> really?
14:38:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> really what?
14:38:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes upto about 4 platforms
14:39:09  <Stablean> <Phil> sure i read on coop wiki always use ro ro insted os terminus if you can
14:39:19  <Stablean> <V453000> which is about 5 year old rule
14:39:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe
14:39:49  <Stablean> <Phil> oh your wiki is out of date then :P
14:39:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it is
14:40:00  <Stablean> <Phil> either that or i read it 5 years ago
14:40:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its out of date
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14:40:41  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
14:41:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good termini that is
14:42:32  <Stablean> <V453000> interesting that I use terminus stations normally and have no problems with them
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14:43:39  <Stablean> <V453000> both terminus and roro have their differences, advantages, disadvantages, but both work
14:44:02  <Stablean> <V453000> saying one is worse doesnt make too much sense in general
14:44:13  <mksen> there are no newgrfs on bananas for this map
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14:44:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the big advantage of ro-ro is you don't have crossing traffic
14:44:27  <Stablean> <V453000> all of the newgrfs are on bananas
14:44:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which could up your loading ratign 5% or so
14:44:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> unless you do it right
14:44:51  <Stablean> <V453000> lol?
14:44:57  <Stablean> <V453000> what does it have to do with ratings
14:45:03  <Stablean> <V453000> just track layout
14:45:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
14:45:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if trains have to wait, they will get slower into the station
14:45:27  <Stablean> <V453000> why would they have to wait
14:45:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which is, of course, also true for roro
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14:45:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they could wait for crossing traffic
14:45:50  <Stablean> <V453000> why would they
14:45:55  <Stablean> <V453000> just provide enough platforms?
14:46:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
14:46:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but unless you do it perfect, you need a little more platforms for terminus than for roro with same traffic
14:46:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I'll take your word for it, V
14:46:40  <Stablean> <V453000> okay, what is the problem there
14:46:52  <Stablean> <V453000> both stations, provided with enough platforms, will work
14:47:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
14:47:03  <Stablean> <V453000> that terminus or roro needs 1 more is no issue really
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14:47:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can make a termiuns that need roughly the same platforms as a Ro-Ro
14:47:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> unless you have 5 tracks needed and station spread is 5 :P
14:47:44  <Stablean> <V453000> platform performance isnt oh so important
14:48:00  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as you have enough of them
14:53:18  <Stablean> <Mks> no firs :(
14:54:57  <Stablean> <Anson> ARGH ... forgot to switch the track type and wondering why it costs so much :-(
14:55:09  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
14:55:11  <Stablean> <Mks> its not that much diffrence this time
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14:55:33  <Stablean> <V453000> well the universal is quite expensive
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14:55:48  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh
14:55:50  <Stablean> <Phil> thanks
14:55:52  <Stablean> <Mks> but slow aint it?
14:55:56  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
14:56:00  <Stablean> <V453000> not for normal usage ofxc
14:56:02  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc
14:56:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i only wanted a universal depot ... and forgot to switch back when laying down more tracks :-(
14:56:50  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
15:03:34  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh you have a compnay this time V
15:03:44  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
15:04:08  <Stablean> <Mks> mm I am doing TL 3 dual locos perhaps a bad idea
15:04:12  <Stablean> <Mks> doesn't seem to earn much
15:04:20  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on what loco you want to end with :)
15:04:30  <Stablean> <Mks> don't know :P
15:04:36  <Stablean> <Mks> but fastests available I guess
15:04:44  <Stablean> <V453000> hm then 2 make sense
15:05:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh shit, no wagon removal!
15:05:53  <Stablean> <Mks> mm transrapid rail and shinkasen locos?
15:05:58  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
15:06:02  <Stablean> <Mks> shinkasen isn't really a maglev train
15:06:07  <Stablean> <V453000> shinkansens wont work CL2 anymore
15:06:17  <Stablean> <Mks> well except an expermential version
15:06:23  <Stablean> <V453000> ...
15:06:30  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh cl 3 shinkasen works?
15:06:32  <Stablean> <V453000> ask me if I care if shinkansen goes on maglev
15:06:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why wont they work anymore?
15:06:34  <Stablean> <V453000> neither
15:06:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mks and V453000 in one company :S
15:06:36  <Stablean> <V453000> I think
15:06:46  <Stablean> <V453000> Chris Booth: fooled by colours
15:07:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh yellow and organe
15:07:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> orange
15:07:06  <Stablean> <Mks> I guess the masai loc I wana use in the end
15:07:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> stupid palet
15:07:14  <Stablean> <Mks> EH 40
15:07:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tl3 dual masai?
15:07:35  <Stablean> <V453000> Troy McClure: they will not work because transrapid tracks reduce curve speeds
15:07:50  <Stablean> <Mks> yes
15:08:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> isnt dual masai overkill?
15:08:21  <Stablean> <V453000> definitely not
15:08:33  <Stablean> <Mks> masai is a bit slow on acc acually
15:08:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, Wam 12 is better
15:08:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but to say it would need double loc
15:08:59  <Stablean> <Phil> i'm a morn
15:09:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> moron?
15:09:08  <Stablean> <Phil> moron
15:09:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for optimal performance, yes
15:09:12  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah lol
15:09:28  <Stablean> <Phil> forgot to auto refit back to oil
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15:13:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> troy WTF
15:14:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why not unload them first?
15:14:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> takes time
15:14:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> time we do have
15:15:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all done
15:15:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yep
15:18:19  <Stablean> <Anson> after the last game, i have read a bit in the wiki, and now i am a bit confused ... do you know details about the curve speed ?
15:18:33  <Stablean> <acksel> wow even a tiny bridge will empty your pocket ;)
15:18:42  <Stablean> <V453000> yes if it is on water
15:18:44  <Stablean> <acksel> hmm?
15:18:50  <Stablean> <V453000> water demolition costs
15:18:52  <Stablean> <V453000> bridge not
15:18:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's the question Anson?
15:19:02  <Stablean> <Anson> i thought that curve speed would depend on TL ... but someplace i read that it depends on the number of wagons which fit between two 45 degree turns
15:19:13  <Stablean> <V453000> no
15:19:19  <Stablean> <V453000> you are messing it up probably
15:19:29  <Stablean> <V453000> put it this way:
15:19:40  <Stablean> <Anson> for standard wagons with length 0.5 it would be the same ... but when wagons are only 0.25 long, the speed might be higher ?!
15:19:44  <Stablean> <V453000> a train is either short enough to fit inside the curve, then it can go any speed it wants
15:20:04  <Stablean> <V453000> but if the train is longer than the curve, then the clcalc and curve speeds apply
15:20:18  <Stablean> <V453000> so, make longer curves than trains and you are safe
15:20:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or take their length into account
15:20:52  <Stablean> <Anson> from the wiki : "Curvature" means the average number of wagons of the train between turns. However, very sharp turns (curvatures 0 and 1) are not averaged out in longer trains.
15:21:12  <Stablean> <V453000> yes what is wrong there
15:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> train length 1 fits in 2x4ř
15:21:25  <Stablean> <V453000> 2x45
15:21:41  <Stablean> <Anson> standard wagons are 0.5
15:21:53  <Stablean> <Anson> thus a train with TL4 has 8 wagons ... ok
15:22:07  <Stablean> <V453000> how do wagons matter
15:22:13  <Stablean> <V453000> just consider TL in tiles
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15:22:35  <Stablean> <Anson> but with short wagons of length 0.25, a train with TL4 has 16 wagons ... thus should be faster in curves (as i read the citation from the wiki)
15:22:49  <Stablean> <V453000> that is utter bullshit
15:22:57  <Stablean> <Anson> it says "THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF WAGONS" ....
15:22:59  <Stablean> <V453000> the only thing that matters is total train length in tiles
15:23:13  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont care what wiki says I am telling you how it works
15:23:13  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, then the wiki should be corrected :-)
15:23:44  <Stablean> <Anson> o found it when i scrolled down after looking at
15:24:38  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh how long bridges can you build?
15:24:44  <Stablean> <V453000> 10
15:24:44  <Stablean> <V453000> max
15:24:50  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
15:24:50  <Stablean> <V453000> including heads
15:25:00  <Stablean> <V453000> 8 is the setting, 10 is the total bridge length
15:25:08  <Stablean> <Mks> I see
15:25:10  <Stablean> <Anson> max bridge length in this game is 8 (eight)
15:25:18  <Stablean> <Mks> so hard to connect islands then
15:25:19  <Stablean> <Anson> according to the advanced settings
15:25:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that sucks
15:25:39  <Stablean> <V453000> no that doesnt
15:25:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry
15:25:53  <Stablean> <Anson> but you can build tunnels ... max length 2048 ... LOL
15:25:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *I think it sucks :P
15:26:04  <Stablean> <Mks> you can't build tunnels under water tho
15:26:12  <Stablean> <V453000> thats the point :p
15:26:22  <Stablean> <V453000> but still, connecting islands sucks. :P
15:26:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that makes sense yeah
15:26:50  <Stablean> <Anson> are you sure ? ... on TT, area below water level would only be flooded when connected to some other water
15:27:00  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant get below water
15:27:06  <Stablean> <V453000> you can get on water level
15:27:12  <Stablean> <V453000> which is the case you are talking about
15:27:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but not below
15:27:18  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you could build "under water level" ... until someone removed a dam and everything would drown :-)
15:27:26  <Stablean> <V453000> no
15:27:34  <Stablean> <V453000> the game says "water level already"
15:27:44  <Stablean> <V453000> you just cant terraform under sea
15:28:00  <Stablean> <akebono> hmpf, in 1.0 or so ive done this once
15:28:08  <Stablean> <V453000> no
15:28:10  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant
15:28:12  <Stablean> <acksel> if you lower land inland away from water, you can build a station there
15:28:12  <Stablean> <akebono> ah i cee
15:28:12  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, then water level in this game is lowest possible level ... in other games, water level might be 2 or 3 and then it should be possible :-)
15:28:14  <Stablean> <V453000> that just doesnt work
15:28:16  <Stablean> <akebono> on sea level)
15:28:20  <Stablean> <acksel> then you can remove the damms
15:28:35  <Stablean> <acksel> and it'll just dissappear when the water spreads
15:28:41  <Stablean> <Mks> you can't raise sea level
15:28:47  <Stablean> <acksel> I know
15:28:57  <Stablean> <acksel> but water won't spread inland
15:28:59  <Stablean> <V453000> well there is a patch that makes it possible to make tunnels under water but it is ... weird imo
15:29:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but it is done IRL too
15:29:23  <Stablean> <V453000> IRL is kinda irrelevant
15:29:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not for some
15:29:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for you it is
15:29:59  <Stablean> <akebono> station in haneda airport tokyo exploits the feature)
15:30:37  <Stablean> <acksel> this is a really difficult map by the way
15:30:43  <Stablean> <V453000> no
15:30:56  <Stablean> <acksel> you  don't think so?
15:31:00  <Stablean> <V453000> it is even "flat" settings
15:31:06  <Stablean> <V453000> and not even "very rough"
15:31:10  <Stablean> <acksel> guess I'm not used to the ruleset
15:31:27  <Stablean> <acksel> costs are slightly different
15:32:11  <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, costs for ships and aircraft are differemt :-)
15:32:23  <Stablean> <acksel> did notice that =)
15:32:31  <Stablean> <acksel> and running costs for ships ^^
15:33:29  <Stablean> <Anson> later in the game, you might be able to afford one or two planes ... only 5 mio to 80 mio running costs
15:33:53  <Stablean> <acksel> looking forward to it
15:34:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> loopy
15:35:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> high top speed tho
15:38:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
15:38:50  <Stablean> <Phil> cya troy
15:38:56  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
15:38:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb Troy McClure
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15:41:17  <Stablean> <Mks> so V its ok to have bad curves?
15:41:27  <Stablean> <V453000> when did I say that
15:41:38  <Stablean> <Mks> well never but your network has some
15:41:55  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, it does
15:42:05  <Stablean> <Mks> not that it matters at the moment since trains are slow tho
15:43:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> CL 2 is good for along time with these trains
15:43:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not until 2000+ you start to get fast trains
15:43:54  <Stablean> <V453000> there is TRS btw
15:44:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they still only got to 160
15:44:11  <Stablean> <V453000> sure, but they do :p
15:44:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know they do that is what I just said
15:44:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and 160 need CL3
15:45:38  <Stablean> <Anson> biggest problem with slowing down in some curve is the following trains catching up and stopping instead of only slowing down ... then the effect "ripples" through the whole network :-(
15:45:40  <Stablean> <V453000> how could cL2 be fine then :p
15:45:54  <Stablean> <V453000> Anson: then build shorter trains or longer curves
15:45:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its fine for 120 km/h
15:46:09  <Stablean> <Anson> but that also will only happen later when there are lots of tightly packed trains on a track
15:46:22  <Stablean> <V453000> Anson: isnt that the aim? :p
15:47:14  <Stablean> <Anson> my aim is to have more than 5k$ cash and less than 1 mio loan when i return from AFK :-)
15:47:30  <Stablean> <V453000> then why do you bother with CLs
15:47:42  <Stablean> <V453000> these dont make money
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15:56:34  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> nice groupnames V
15:56:42  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm :)
15:57:27  <Stablean> <Phil> how do you check other people's group names?
15:57:33  <Stablean> <V453000> secretly
15:57:33  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> just look at their trainlist
15:57:41  <Stablean> <V453000> you need to allow it first
15:57:43  <Stablean> <V453000> in settings
15:58:14  <Stablean> <Phil> that explains why I can't see your's then
15:58:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or anyones
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15:58:41  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah :/
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16:08:03  <Stablean> <V453000> coming later
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16:43:19  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> ...
16:43:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ..
16:43:36  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> So all your money just disappears, or is terraforming uber expensive?
16:43:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> tf = expensive
16:43:46  <Stablean> <Mks> tf is quite expensive
16:43:52  <Stablean> <Mks> water is uber expensive
16:43:56  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> well then, there went all my money
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16:45:08  <Stablean> <Mks> want the old one removed?
16:45:16  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> that would be good, yes
16:45:37  <Stablean> mksen: you are not allowed to use !rcon
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16:47:03  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> crap, there's a lot of trains on there...never played with any mods
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16:47:34  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> is wood freight or heavy freight?
16:47:42  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on length of train
16:47:48  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> oh, k
16:47:54  <Stablean> <V453000> or ... amoung of wagons per engine
16:48:06  <Stablean> <V453000> the freight, heavy freight etc are not really important
16:48:16  <Stablean> <V453000> just noting that the engine is rather strong or rather weak
16:48:20  <planetmaker> NARS?
16:48:25  <planetmaker> !info
16:48:25  <Stablean> planetmaker:
16:48:26  <Stablean> <V453000> japan
16:48:31  <planetmaker> I see :-)
16:48:36  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> is there a max length on the trains?
16:48:51  <planetmaker> Well, they do a good job with engine descriptions. They're clear
16:48:55  <planetmaker> 64 tiles
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16:49:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> so this one isn't limited to max of 7 length for stations/trains?
16:49:54  <planetmaker> lol I was missing my own NewGRF ;-)
16:50:00  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> breakdowns on or off?
16:50:02  <Stablean> <dh2k3> off
16:50:10  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> k, good, hate those
16:50:18  <planetmaker> we, too :-P
16:50:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ai is off to :)
16:51:08  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> O.o
16:51:12  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> electric in 1936?
16:51:51  <Stablean> <Rieksts> does not mean they are better
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16:52:56  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ho
16:52:58  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
16:53:28  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ahh, troy left. i was suposed to coop with him
16:53:40  <Stablean> <V453000> they have a new company
16:54:04  <Stablean> <Rieksts> they?
16:54:14  <Stablean> <V453000> with Chris Booth
16:56:09  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Pilkington: you should consider where to put path signals
16:56:19  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you created the perfect dead-lock setup right now
16:56:23  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm :)
16:56:41  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> the
16:56:53  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Wlbigdob I think it's you
16:57:02  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yup
16:57:12  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> I know, but I don't got money to not have it
16:57:19  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> of course
16:57:25  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you need to _remove_ two signals
16:57:36  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> those on the part where trains go both-ways
16:58:06  <planetmaker> !rcon clients
16:58:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1  name: 'Stablean'  company: 255  IP: server
16:58:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #58  name: 'dh2k3'  company: 10  IP:
16:58:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #61  name: 'Mks'  company: 8  IP:
16:58:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #62  name: 'WIbigdog'  company: 12  IP:
16:58:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #27  name: 'Anson'  company: 5  IP:
16:58:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 6 more messages
16:58:25  <planetmaker> !more
16:58:25  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #29  name: 'Phil'  company: 4  IP:
16:58:25  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #64  name: 'V453000'  company: 1  IP:
16:58:25  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #33  name: 'acksel'  company: 7  IP:
16:58:25  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #41  name: 'TWerkhoven'  company: 9  IP:
16:58:25  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #66  name: 'Rieksts'  company: 255  IP:
16:58:27  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have one more message
16:58:30  <planetmaker> !move
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16:58:33  <planetmaker> !more
16:58:33  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #68  name: 'planetm4ker'  company: 255  IP:
16:58:39  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
16:58:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal              Mks  date:1936-09-12  tile:0005B058  p1:00005000 p2:00000000 text: price:0
16:58:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal              Mks  date:1936-09-12  tile:0005AC5A  p1:00005005 p2:00000000 text: price:65
16:58:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal              Mks  date:1936-09-12  tile:0005AC5A  p1:00005005 p2:00000000 text: price:0
16:58:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal              Mks  date:1936-09-12  tile:0005AC5A  p1:00005005 p2:00000000 text: price:0
16:58:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Grey) Company Name: 'Rainbow Rampage'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 2814218  Loan: 0  Value: 6730134  (T:77, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:41  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 10 more messages
16:58:43  <planetmaker> !more
16:58:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(White) Company Name: 'BlackBeaver Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 244368  Loan: 100000  Value: 165399  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
16:58:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Red) Company Name: 'Chris Booth Transport'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 9705514  Loan: 0  Value: 11355960  (T:74, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Blue) Company Name: 'Phil Transport'  Year Founded: 1925  Money: 22132  Loan: 500000  Value: 1  (T:16, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:45  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Light Blue) Company Name: 'Anson Transport'  Year Founded: 1926  Money: 127144  Loan: 480000  Value: 1  (T:5, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:45  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:6(Green) Company Name: 'akebono Transport'  Year Founded: 1926  Money: 665571  Loan: 500000  Value: 492900  (T:12, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:46  <planetmaker> !more
16:58:47  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 5 more messages
16:58:47  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:7(Dark Blue) Company Name: 'IDIFTL Inc'  Year Founded: 1926  Money: 140478  Loan: 0  Value: 652776  (T:6, R:37, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:49  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:8(Yellow) Company Name: 'Mks Transport'  Year Founded: 1927  Money: 809353  Loan: 460000  Value: 781041  (T:23, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:49  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:9(Brown) Company Name: 'TWerkhoven Transport'  Year Founded: 1932  Money: 311488  Loan: 450000  Value: 1  (T:3, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:51  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:10(Orange) Company Name: 'dh2k3 Transport'  Year Founded: 1934  Money: 38907  Loan: 430000  Value: 1  (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:58:51  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:12(Pale Green) Company Name: 'Pilkington & Co.'  Year Founded: 1935  Money: 49062  Loan: 360000  Value: 1  (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
16:59:06  <planetmaker> may I join your company to show which I mean?
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16:59:25  <Stablean> <Rieksts> maybe just ad signs
16:59:28  <planetmaker> !rcon move 68 12
16:59:28  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdBuildRailroadTrack              Mks  date:1936-10-04  tile:0005B05B  p1:0005B85C p2:00000050 text: price:160
16:59:28  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdInsertOrder          V453000  date:1936-10-04  tile:0001381E  p1:07C009B0 p2:006F0051 text: price:0
16:59:28  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdLevelLand              Mks  date:1936-10-04  tile:0005BC5D  p1:0005BC5D p2:00000002 text: price:16140
16:59:29  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdInsertOrder          V453000  date:1936-10-04  tile:0001381E  p1:094009B0 p2:006F0051 text: price:0
16:59:29  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdInsertOrder          V453000  date:1936-10-04  tile:0001381E  p1:095009B0 p2:006F0051 text: price:0
16:59:29  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages
16:59:31  <Stablean> <Rieksts> add
16:59:31  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> sure
16:59:36  <planetmaker> yes. But as spec I can't place signs
16:59:37  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Hey V4
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16:59:55  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ah, ok, you removed those two already
16:59:57  <Stablean> <Rieksts> I have a few questions about your network
17:00:05  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> because now never three trans can wait there
17:00:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who network?
17:00:13  <Stablean> <Rieksts> V4
17:01:06  <Stablean> <V453000> im waiting for the question
17:01:12  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok
17:01:58  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Why do you add thoserandom  sideway tracks near your stations?
17:02:10  <Stablean> <Rieksts> 0.5 TL ones
17:02:14  <Stablean> <V453000> because they arent random :p
17:02:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: now that isn't helpful
17:02:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Rieksts: asked you a reasonable question
17:02:46  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> don't terraform, WIbigdog
17:02:54  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it's VERY expensive usually
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17:03:00  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Well, can you please tell me what purpose they serve
17:03:02  <Stablean> <V453000> in general, it makes pre-signals work with lost trains
17:03:06  <Stablean> <WIbigdog> I just needed one tunnel
17:03:14  <Stablean> <acksel> I can wouch for terraforming being expensive
17:03:14  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as trains dont get lost you are fine
17:03:21  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> why do you need that?
17:03:35  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok il load up this game as save and try em out
17:03:45  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> o_O
17:03:47  <Stablean> <V453000> I can show you quite easily
17:04:12  <Stablean> <Rieksts> and i want to try out your overflows
17:04:16  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> anyway. got to go. Enjoy
17:04:20  <Stablean> <V453000> cya pm
17:04:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye bye planetm4ker
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17:04:28  <Stablean> <V453000> well, try them out? :D
17:04:30  <Stablean> <Rieksts> :)
17:05:24  <Stablean> <acksel> aw crap
17:05:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> heavy freight doublehead yes?
17:05:42  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13)
17:05:50  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to DjoN
17:05:52  <Stablean> <V453000> thx
17:06:06  <Stablean> <acksel> they just removed one of the forests because I took to long to deliver, lucky I put that station between two forests...
17:06:18  <Stablean> <Groen> niet
17:09:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wow someone made a boat :DD
17:09:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or 4
17:09:15  <Stablean> <Phil> doh
17:09:17  <Stablean> <V453000> yeyyy
17:09:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Groen Boats will never ever make money
17:09:33  <Stablean> <Groen> i'm crazy fat bob
17:09:41  <Stablean> <Groen> i deliver narcotics
17:09:49  <Stablean> <Phil> oh hai bob
17:09:49  <Stablean> <DjoN> nice groen
17:09:53  <Stablean> <Phil> send me some coke
17:10:05  <Stablean> <V453000> me too please
17:10:07  <Stablean> <Phil> foc of course
17:10:09  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Alright V4, please show me what do those sidetracks do.
17:10:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Groen: you are also delivering Debt
17:10:21  <Stablean> <Rieksts> and how are they exactly called?
17:10:27  <Stablean> <V453000> arent called
17:10:31  <Stablean> <V453000> I call them arrows
17:10:55  <Stablean> <V453000> see Tinningley Forest
17:10:57  <Stablean> <V453000> one of my stations
17:11:07  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yes
17:11:37  <Stablean> <V453000> here we have two normal trains
17:11:41  <Stablean> <V453000> arrows wouldnt affect them
17:11:59  <Stablean> <Rieksts> mhm
17:12:03  <Stablean> <V453000> and here goes a lost train
17:12:24  <Stablean> <Rieksts> auch
17:12:26  <Stablean> <V453000> now happens exactly this
17:12:38  <Stablean> <V453000> voila
17:13:07  <Stablean> <V453000> now in this case the arrows are required only for the platform on the left but I recommend making it for both to be sure
17:13:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't use them with PBS though
17:13:14  <Stablean> <acksel> I'm lagging rather bad now
17:13:32  <Stablean> <acksel> does anyone want to coop or take over the company?
17:13:36  <Stablean> <Groen> fbi is after me
17:13:45  <Stablean> <Groen> going to my hideout, bye
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17:13:51  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok
17:14:02  <Stablean> <V453000> Rieksts: to be exact, the arrows make 2way signals work
17:14:06  <Stablean> <V453000> in case trains are lost
17:14:18  <Stablean> <Rieksts> and why dont you use PBS for terminus stations?
17:14:26  <Stablean> <Rieksts> just for fun?
17:14:26  <Stablean> <V453000> cause PBS sucks
17:14:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> PBS causes its own issues
17:15:12  <Stablean> <Rieksts> slowdowns?
17:16:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> is there a way to scroll up in the messages on here?
17:16:06  <Stablean> <V453000> use console
17:16:12  <Stablean> <V453000> press the key left of 1
17:16:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes use conesole and page up
17:16:24  <Stablean> <V453000> wheel works
17:16:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh it does never used it
17:16:45  <Stablean> <V453000> one of the newer features
17:17:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its almost a full IRC client now then
17:17:23  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wheel works
17:17:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is wheely good
17:18:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> doubleheading trains helps yes?
17:18:33  <Stablean> <V453000> gives more power and TE
17:19:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ie: 300kN 3,042hp
17:19:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Class 12L is no good for me :'(
17:20:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> mikado works fine here
17:20:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> D50 or D51?
17:20:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> using 50 for now might upgrade to 51
17:21:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> but they are costly atm
17:22:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 500k alone for the trains I'm using so far
17:22:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I go millions
17:22:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not there yet Chris ;)
17:23:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why not dh2k3?
17:23:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you must not be trying hard enough!
17:23:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> just started and slowly paying off my loans :)
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17:23:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hehe
17:23:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> every little bit helps :P
17:24:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> that just covers taxes :P
17:25:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> poor green
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17:29:44  <Stablean> <acksel> I'm off have fun,I've left the company without a password so that anyone can take it
17:29:49  <Stablean> <V453000> no
17:29:53  <Stablean> <V453000> it will be deleted
17:29:58  <Stablean> <V453000> if it doesnt have password
17:30:03  <Stablean> <acksel> ah
17:30:06  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> mine didnt have password either
17:30:08  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> O_o
17:30:23  <Stablean> <V453000> no open companies.
17:30:26  <Stablean> <acksel> does anyone want a company than? ;)
17:30:29  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> well i set a password
17:30:33  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> went away
17:30:37  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> and it had no password
17:30:40  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> when I returned
17:31:15  <Stablean> <Mks> if the server has to restart companies lose their password
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17:32:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> max station spread is?
17:32:43  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> 64
17:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> look in settings?
17:32:47  <Stablean> <Mks> 10
17:32:50  <Stablean> <Phil> everytime i upgrade trains my trains turn into idiots and go anywhere an everywhere
17:32:56  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> wasnt it 64?
17:33:02  <Stablean> <V453000> Phil: badly placed depots :p
17:33:06  <Stablean> <Mks> max is 64 but max in this game is 10
17:33:08  <Stablean> <Phil> no
17:33:10  <Stablean> <Phil> well
17:33:18  <Stablean> <Phil> at least i don't think so
17:33:27  <Stablean> <Phil> only 2 accessible are on lianline
17:33:30  <Stablean> <Phil> mainline
17:33:32  <Stablean> <V453000> why do they get idiotic then :p
17:33:42  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure
17:33:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 64 so 8x8 is max then ....
17:33:47  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe you know?
17:34:03  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, any globally visible depot will likely cause issues
17:34:20  <Stablean> <Phil> check !here sign plz
17:34:30  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
17:34:32  <Stablean> <Phil> do trains think that depot is accessible?
17:34:34  <Stablean> <V453000> no
17:34:44  <Stablean> <Phil> then why they goin to it?
17:34:44  <Stablean> <V453000> but they are turning in the station to get into some other depot
17:34:55  <Stablean> <V453000> to prevent that just use terminus stations
17:35:25  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe i should just add more depots along my mainline?
17:35:34  <Stablean> <V453000> that wont change anything
17:35:51  <Stablean> <Phil> ummm
17:36:11  <Stablean> <Phil> there was no need for any train to turn in that staion
17:36:16  <Stablean> <V453000> see where my accessible depots are
17:36:18  <Stablean> <Phil> so why'd they do it?
17:36:34  <Stablean> <V453000> because they want to some depot which is accessible that way
17:37:02  <Stablean> <Phil> where arey our accessible depots?
17:37:10  <Stablean> <V453000> behind terminus stations
17:37:12  <Stablean> <V453000> trains cant see through them
17:37:28  <Stablean> <V453000> so trains can replace only when they are leaving their stations
17:37:38  <Stablean> <V453000> and cant mess up
17:37:53  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah o k that makes sense
17:38:05  <Stablean> <Phil> what about if use roros though
17:38:07  <Stablean> <Phil> ?
17:38:12  <Stablean> <V453000> well then you are screwed
17:38:18  <Stablean> <V453000> you could make a train reverser
17:38:24  <Stablean> <V453000> behind a drop for example
17:38:39  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure what they are
17:38:45  <Stablean> <V453000> - train reverser - just a fake terminus - dead end line without a station
17:38:49  <Stablean> <V453000> trains just reverse there so they cant see the depot again
17:39:11  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
17:39:11  <Stablean> <V453000> I recommend not to use those until necessary though
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17:41:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol at my train 38
17:41:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Fail!
17:41:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lets hope I was the only one who saw that
17:42:46  <Stablean> <Phil> wtf
17:42:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
17:43:02  <Stablean> <Phil> gtfo my island grrr
17:43:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am not on your island!
17:43:18  <Stablean> <Phil> i now
17:43:22  <Stablean> <Phil> ye;llow is
17:43:32  <Stablean> <dh2k3> me?
17:43:38  <Stablean> *** Phil has joined spectators
17:43:42  <Stablean> <Phil> ueah :)
17:43:52  <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #4
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17:44:21  <Stablean> <V453000> dh2k3: why dont you catch the other farms?
17:44:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I have V4
17:44:50  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
17:44:50  <Stablean> <DjoN> v4 ?
17:44:56  <Stablean> <V453000> this is your first farm connction
17:45:04  <Stablean> <V453000> why there :( blue is obviously not happy about that
17:45:08  <Stablean> <DjoN> what is v4 ? im a noob
17:45:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> double farm plus coal
17:45:22  <Stablean> <V453000> so what
17:45:33  <Stablean> <V453000> would you crawl onto my island if there were 3 free forests?
17:45:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> if nobody was using them probably
17:46:03  <Stablean> <V453000> then I strongly suggest not doing so
17:46:25  <Stablean> <V453000> which includes entering Phils area
17:46:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I don't mind if he comes by me though
17:47:00  <Stablean> <V453000> but he does
17:47:17  <Stablean> <Phil> whole idead of islands is so we have our spots
17:47:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> nobody mentioned that at all
17:47:45  <Stablean> <V453000> no
17:47:49  <Stablean> <Phil> there's hardly anything for me to connect as is
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17:47:59  <Stablean> <Phil> and what's left you're taking odh
17:48:05  <Stablean> <V453000> it should be intentional to rather get your own land instead of invading others
17:48:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> only that for now Phil
17:48:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> plus you are taking goods anyways
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17:48:48  <Stablean> <Phil> what goods?
17:48:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> from the refinery
17:48:58  <Stablean> <DjoN> easy now, isnt it free for all ?
17:49:06  <Stablean> <Phil> so i should be
17:49:12  <Stablean> <V453000> fee for all with friendly approach
17:49:14  <Stablean> <Phil> it's on my island and recieving my oil
17:49:20  <Stablean> <V453000> free for all doesnt mean deathmatch
17:50:05  <Stablean> <DjoN> sure, dont steal...
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17:50:55  <Stablean> <V453000> which reminds me of Reburg Woods
17:51:05  <Stablean> <V453000> which is actually done by you DjoN
17:51:15  <Stablean> <V453000> oh sorry
17:51:23  <Stablean> <V453000> I though brown is taking oil too
17:51:31  <Stablean> <DjoN> what ?
17:51:33  <Stablean> <V453000> nevermind
17:53:30  <Stablean> <V453000> dh2k3: please leave that area, I think Phil made himself clear
17:53:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Phil do you want me to leave or not?
17:53:58  <Stablean> <Phil> i'd prefer if you sure
17:54:08  <Stablean> <Phil> there's loads u can have furtheru p north
17:55:22  <Stablean> <Phil> thanks dh
17:55:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> thought the point is also to make as much money as you can as well
17:55:51  <Stablean> <V453000> hm?
17:56:22  <Stablean> <Phil> im probably more annoyed to the fact last game someone built mainline about 8 titles from the front of my 100 train station drop /doh
17:56:42  <Stablean> <Phil> deleted my company as a ruslt :(
17:56:54  <Stablean> <DjoN> ruskt ?
17:56:56  <Stablean> <DjoN> ruslt ?
17:56:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and we told you Phil we would help you out
17:57:42  <Stablean> <Phil> how is building on my island helping me? lol
17:57:48  <Stablean> <V453000> I think last game
17:58:06  <Stablean> <V453000> I assume they wanted to help you rebuild the station or something
17:58:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> V4 everything
17:58:30  <Stablean> <V453000> ok, even so :)
17:59:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol @ JJ Transport
18:00:00  <Stablean> <DjoN> what ?
18:00:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just lol at it
18:00:24  <Stablean> <DjoN> why ?
18:00:33  <Stablean> <Mks> mm can I Stop an industry from dying by adding a fake station?
18:00:43  <Stablean> <DjoN> whats wrong ?
18:00:43  <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: I guess why not
18:01:01  <Stablean> <Mks> I can't afford to build a refinery atm but I don't want the oil wheels to die
18:01:35  <Stablean> <V453000> I can buy you a refinery in like half a year
18:01:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> well Mks one refinery blew up due to not connected train
18:01:48  <Stablean> *** haxx has left the game (connection lost)
18:01:52  <Stablean> <Mks> I know
18:02:06  <Stablean> <Mks> problem i as always lack of money :P
18:02:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can buy you one when ever you want
18:03:27  <Stablean> <Mks> can you build one thats near  gunfingey 1936?
18:03:45  <Stablean> <Mks> the station that is
18:04:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> DjoN can you not build RV on my island?
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18:05:26  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Mks do you have a station at Nenfingburg oil refinery?
18:05:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and please don't take coal that close to me when you can see I am transporting coal
18:05:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> DjoN I will pay you to remove that coal line
18:05:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
18:05:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
18:06:05  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey Troy
18:06:33  <Stablean> <DjoN> well, tell what building i CAN take..
18:06:44  <Stablean> <V453000> there is a lof of free land
18:06:51  <Stablean> <DjoN> whrere ?
18:06:53  <Stablean> <DjoN> tell me
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18:07:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> on anyother island that is free
18:07:09  <Stablean> <DjoN> tell me a good place
18:07:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> depends what you want to transport
18:07:49  <Stablean> <DjoN> i dont care, but i cant find anything.. so please find it to me
18:08:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats not the idea of the game
18:08:35  <Stablean> <DjoN> lol.. see, there isnt anything.. i have looked the map twice
18:08:47  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game
18:08:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I didn't say there was nothing
18:08:57  <Stablean> <V453000> so for example the whole area around Tinborough is taken
18:08:59  <Stablean> <V453000> ok
18:08:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I said it wasn't the idea of the game
18:09:19  <Stablean> <V453000> map full I guess
18:09:40  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game
18:09:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> looks like we need a new game then V453000 :P
18:09:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hihi
18:09:45  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
18:09:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi MrD2DG
18:09:49  <Stablean> <V453000> hi MrD2DG
18:09:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I missed something
18:10:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi MrMouthy ;)
18:10:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:10:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what about the coal around Wratborough?
18:11:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lots of free land there
18:14:19  <Stablean> <DjoN> thx
18:15:09  <Stablean> <DjoN> wow
18:15:26  <Stablean> <DjoN> Thx Chris
18:15:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any chance that will encourage you to remove Pradingworth Coal Mine?
18:15:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL Bribery
18:15:53  <Stablean> <DjoN> hehe
18:16:05  <Stablean> <DjoN> i will
18:16:09  <Stablean> <DjoN> 10 min, ok ?
18:16:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 10 mins is fine
18:16:34  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has started a new company (#7)
18:16:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh, good colours are gone :/
18:16:59  <Stablean> <DjoN> haha
18:17:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I like all colours but pink
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18:17:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im usually white or green :/
18:17:43  <Stablean> <V453000> piss this time
18:17:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
18:19:11  <Stablean> <DjoN> who is building tracks  at finston ?
18:19:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me
18:19:25  <Stablean> <DjoN> im building there
18:19:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No... you're not?
18:19:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont see anything
18:20:13  <Stablean> <DjoN> then why are you reserving the coalmine ?
18:20:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
18:20:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because its free?
18:20:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont see any of your tracks/roads/stations next to them...
18:21:24  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant see invisible?
18:21:26  <Stablean> <V453000> duh
18:21:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: you are right unless they are underground railroads
18:21:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:21:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont get what this guy is getting at..?
18:21:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> where to build where to build
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18:22:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi again
18:22:48  <Stablean> <Rieksts> hey
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18:22:54  <Stablean> <Rieksts> you left your company>
18:23:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, it left me
18:23:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> bridges too long :S
18:23:39  <Stablean> <Mks> there are plenty of places left to build at
18:23:45  <Stablean> <Mks> but don't build on my island
18:23:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know if chris minds, but as far as im concerned, you can join
18:24:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> anybody know when you can build long bridges?
18:24:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who can join?
18:24:26  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok
18:24:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3:  never
18:24:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:24:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> never :(
18:24:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They are UGLY and annoying
18:25:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> should be same password, Rieksts
18:25:30  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i dont rememmber it :)
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18:27:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Erm wth
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18:27:27  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i wasnt the only one
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18:27:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We all d/ced
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18:27:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Rieksts, we do build in a certain fashion
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18:29:08  <V453000> guess some server connection spike
18:29:14  <Stablean> <Player> Chris ?
18:29:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Player:
18:29:31  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to DjoN
18:29:35  <Stablean> <DjoN> im removing it now
18:29:57  <Stablean> <DjoN> done
18:33:11  <Stablean> <V453000> MrD2DG: the Mud stations are nicer with mines :p
18:33:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Actually that what i was meant to use I normally use quarry for wood
18:33:41  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
18:34:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> RIP Fort Honston :'(
18:36:46  <Stablean> <Rieksts> just plan ahead and leave space for expansion
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18:37:14  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> LOL LUNAR ECLIPSE LOLOLOL
18:37:18  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
18:37:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Okay...
18:37:52  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> i lol'd at the ridicolous amount of addons this server has
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18:38:14  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> oh and i will watch a INTERNETS LIVESTREAM of the LUNAR ECLIPSE instead of watching out of my window
18:38:16  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm :)
18:38:18  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> is that cool or is that cool?
18:38:26  <Stablean> <V453000> :::DDD
18:38:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> everything is better on the internet?
18:38:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> no lumar eclipse here
18:38:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Bear Grylls, you suck Ray Mears Rules!
18:38:38  <Stablean> <Rieksts> where can it be seen?
18:38:48  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls>
18:38:48  <Stablean> <V453000> on the sky I think
18:38:49  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Lunar Eclipse, June 15, 2011 (at
18:38:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> holland, for sure
18:38:54  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> :D
18:38:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> right after sundown
18:39:02  <Stablean> <Rieksts> OU than it should be in Denmark too right?
18:39:04  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> hand over teh piss and no one gets hurt
18:39:10  <Stablean> <V453000> but some reported seeing it in the bottom of an empty glass of beer
18:39:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> (22:00-23:00) CEE
18:39:24  <Stablean> <Rieksts> that is +1?
18:39:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> normally +1
18:39:34  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok
18:39:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with summer day savings +2
18:39:38  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> CET = GMT+1
18:40:31  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> im listening to the bloke on youtube. he keeps talking and talking and talking about the lunar eclipse for HOURS
18:40:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well
18:40:49  <Stablean> <V453000> guess I will stay at music
18:40:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're here a couple of minutes
18:41:02  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> lolz
18:41:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and all you do is talk about it too...
18:41:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
18:41:18  <Stablean> <Bear Grylls> i AM bear grylls
18:41:30  <Stablean> <Phil> too many e numbers probably
18:41:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> doubtfully
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18:43:31  <Stablean> <Phil> see
18:43:35  <Stablean> <Phil> i was right
18:43:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
18:43:41  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ?
18:43:45  <Stablean> <Phil> too many e numbers
18:43:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That guy was a friggin weirdo...
18:43:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> e numbers?
18:44:12  <Stablean> <Phil> e numbers are what make 14 year olds hyper
18:44:18  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
18:44:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> food additives
18:44:30  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
18:44:33  <V453000> later
18:44:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> thought that was something else ;)
18:44:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
18:44:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb V
18:45:01  <Stablean> <Rieksts> bye
18:45:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> like drugs, smokes, etc. :(
18:45:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb V453000
18:45:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those are not food addives
18:45:15  <Stablean> <Phil> cya v
18:45:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *additives
18:45:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> well that makes my 14yr old cousin hyper
18:45:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am starting LL_RR @ Hinnville Woods then
18:45:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> drugs and smokes?
18:45:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 14 yr old cousin?
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18:45:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and p0rn0
18:45:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb V
18:45:58  <Stablean> <V453000> hm that was quick :D back :p
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18:46:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yeah Troy :(
18:46:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> drugs are bad mmkay
18:46:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> we know Mr. Mackay
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18:49:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> are there cars that will just take whatever cargo without refitting?
18:49:18  <Stablean> <V453000> why would you need that
18:49:29  <Stablean> <V453000> but no, there arent
18:49:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> last game I was carrying bauxite and clay in hoppers and I couldn't have 1 train carry both because of refitting :(
18:50:03  <Stablean> <V453000> you could
18:50:08  <Stablean> <V453000> just select which wagons to refit
18:51:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> any towns accepting goods at the moment?
18:51:58  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> yes
18:52:12  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lots of towns
18:57:34  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lol
18:57:40  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> oil refinery vanished
18:57:44  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> when I built there
18:57:44  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lol
18:57:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where you going to use it?
18:57:56  <Stablean> <Phil> where?
18:58:05  <Stablean> <Phil> ^
18:58:09  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> at the very south of the map
18:58:35  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> phil
18:58:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it came back
18:58:48  <Stablean> <Phil> yes?
18:58:52  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> lol?
18:59:02  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> actually
18:59:08  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> there was another refinery
18:59:12  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> just in the north of it
18:59:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but I built you that one
18:59:28  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> yeah
18:59:30  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> thanks
18:59:34  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> was going to ask phil
18:59:38  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> but ill use yours
18:59:40  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> thanks
19:00:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> np
19:00:20  <Stablean> <DjoN> how do i change the car can carry ? i need livestock
19:00:32  <Stablean> <V453000> buy the car and then in the depot
19:00:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you shout at it
19:00:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and it will refit
19:00:48  <Stablean> <DjoN> yes ? - and then
19:00:48  <Stablean> <V453000> oh
19:00:50  <Stablean> <V453000> click on the train
19:00:56  <Stablean> <V453000> and it has two boxes icon
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19:01:28  <Stablean> <DjoN> ohh thx m8...
19:01:40  <Stablean> <V453000> npnp
19:01:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I still think you need to shout at it
19:07:55  <Stablean> <V453000> lol I just wanted to light my lamp so I went, switched it on and nothing happened ... "oh it is unplugged" ... so I plugged it in and then ... I returned back to my chair with lamp turned off but plugged in ...
19:08:04  <Stablean> <V453000> great success
19:08:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:08:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> D'oh
19:08:17  <Stablean> <Mks> oo
19:08:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and now, did you turn it on?
19:08:30  <Stablean> <V453000> yes because I went there again
19:08:32  <Stablean> <Mks> no need for lamps tho its still light outside :)
19:08:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its grey outside here
19:09:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same
19:09:06  <Stablean> <Mks> its daylight here
19:09:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shit weather...
19:09:20  <Stablean> <V453000> literally
19:09:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, for once
19:09:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:09:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> brown drops on the window?
19:10:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope, that's not true
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19:10:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
19:10:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
19:10:52  <Stablean> <Mks> what time is at you?
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19:11:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh bb
19:11:12  <Stablean> <Mks> its 9:10pm here
19:11:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 8:11pm UK
19:11:26  <Stablean> <Anson> 21:11 :-)
19:12:37  <Stablean> <Mks> its 21:11 here to but mm some people don't know what time that is :)
19:12:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 9:11 ofc :)
19:13:11  <Stablean> <Anstonio> haha
19:13:13  <Stablean> <Anstonio> lolz
19:13:37  <Stablean> <Anson> the question was not to give someone the time, but to tell what time it is "over there at you" ... and that is 21:13 now, no matter whether other people understand it :-)
19:13:45  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
19:13:57  <Stablean> <Mks> true I guess
19:14:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wha? That was worded badly..
19:14:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> it's 14:14 here
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19:15:55  <Stablean> <spiderboy193> /rules
19:17:17  <Stablean> <DjoN> 18 tons of coal... hmmm
19:18:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I love my trains/trucks :)
19:19:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im sure they love you too :)
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19:20:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wb Chris
19:20:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
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19:20:57  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey Phil
19:21:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey akbono is it ok if I come at pickup passengers?
19:22:27  <Stablean> <Anstonio> Beaver, you put some signals wrong at Sunington coalmine
19:22:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> no response akebone?
19:23:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> akebone?
19:23:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> green
19:23:41  <Stablean> <Anstonio> Green aint here
19:23:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> IM sure he knows his own name..
19:23:55  <Stablean> <DjoN> lol
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19:27:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
19:27:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No time limit here :)
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19:28:31  <Stablean> <DjoN> ohh okay.. :) it was on the other servers i have played on.. frustrating..
19:28:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Yeah thats why i mostly play here
19:29:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that and your banned everywhere else MrD2DG XD
19:29:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
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19:29:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ive only been banned from a few no idea why though :D
19:29:56  <Stablean> <DjoN> i have to give you guys some credit.. damn you are good at building railroad network.. i cant do that.. i build from a to b
19:30:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am banned from only one at the moment Lukkland
19:30:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You'll learn after playing here for a while
19:30:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol why CB?
19:30:30  <Stablean> <DjoN> yes Lukkland have timelimits...
19:30:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> building like this
19:30:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Really? Thats stupid
19:30:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> everyone call admins on me for taking up all the map
19:30:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with awesomeness
19:30:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:30:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very stupid
19:31:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not like it would stop me playing there if I wanted
19:31:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Was it just a name ban?
19:32:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't know but if it was an IP doesn't matter
19:32:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> dynamic ip?
19:32:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> VPN Proxy
19:32:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
19:32:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> playing via VNC on one of my servers
19:32:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or playing at work
19:33:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or last resort I could play over 3G :DD
19:33:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
19:33:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but playing here is more fun
19:34:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> until I get banned here again XD
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19:34:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol You've been banned here?
19:34:33  <Stablean> <V453000> multiple times
19:34:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:34:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> more than once
19:34:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not suprised tbh :P
19:34:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why is that MrD2DG?
19:35:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno just not suprised
19:35:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am currently banned from IRC here
19:35:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wasnt that by mistake though?
19:36:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not last time I checked
19:36:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh !roulette?
19:36:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
19:36:52  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
19:36:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am more stupid than that
19:37:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What then? Dont see why you wouldnt be banned in game to :P
19:37:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> aaah
19:38:22  <Stablean> <Anson> is this still holiday week, or why are so many people online now (compared to last week)
19:38:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know i never see so many people here
19:38:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
19:38:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So you did ofc :P
19:38:42  <Stablean> <DjoN> im unemployed atm
19:39:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its the evening
19:39:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I don't work, I just goof off work
19:39:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still a whole lotta people, lots of new people too
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19:41:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want to build the LL_RR Rieksts you can feel free
19:41:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just connect the train catchers at depots
19:41:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and trains will get stuck in depot
19:42:30  <Stablean> <Rieksts> btw
19:42:46  <Stablean> <haxx> white you got traffic jam near lunway woods
19:42:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats fine Rieksts
19:43:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you can stop them if you want
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19:52:13  <Stablean> <DjoN> dh2k3, look at your train no. 6
19:53:17  <Stablean> <DjoN> ?
19:53:29  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> make industries transparant an you'll see why its doing what it does
19:54:06  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> and theres another one doing the same now
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19:54:43  <Stablean> <Ediz> hi all
19:54:50  <Stablean> <DjoN> i dont get it.. ?
19:54:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:55:18  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> theres very important trackpiece missing
19:55:35  <Stablean> *** Iceman has left the game (leaving)
19:55:35  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> right now, only one platform has a way of leaving the station
19:55:41  <Stablean> <Ediz> admins sorry
19:55:53  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> its the platform train 6 avoids
19:56:29  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ey ediz
19:56:51  <Stablean> <Ediz> ı am good games
19:57:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> O god..
19:57:10  <Stablean> <Ediz> ı am noting problem
19:57:24  <Stablean> *** pew transport joined the game
19:57:27  <Stablean> <pew transport> hello
19:57:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:57:40  <Stablean> <pew transport> same one speak russian :DDD
19:57:43  <Stablean> <pew transport> need help
19:58:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont speak russian
19:58:08  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> me either
19:58:10  <Stablean> <pew transport> :(
19:58:40  <Stablean> <Ediz> where are you from all
19:58:48  <Stablean> <pew transport> how 3 trains came in 1 stantion at the same time
19:58:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> England...
19:58:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS pew
19:58:57  <Stablean> <pew transport> help plz
19:58:59  <Stablean> <DjoN> Demark
19:59:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The blue signals
19:59:03  <Stablean> <DjoN> Denmark
19:59:09  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> scotland
19:59:16  <Stablean> <pew transport> PBS that it???
19:59:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
19:59:28  <Stablean> <pew transport> i dont know
19:59:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Read the wiki?
19:59:40  <Stablean> <pew transport> if u can show me plz
19:59:42  <Stablean> <pew transport> no
19:59:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea if its in russian
19:59:48  <Stablean> <pew transport> no have russian wiki
19:59:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Does V speak russian?
20:00:10  <Stablean> <pew transport> y can speak
20:00:26  <V453000> oh hello Ediz
20:00:28  <V453000> !rcon ban 172
20:00:28  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** Ediz has left the game (kicked by server)
20:00:28  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** Ediz has left the game (connection lost)
20:00:28  <Stablean> V453000: Banned 1 client(s)
20:00:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
20:00:33  <TWerkhoven> ooh
20:00:35  <Stablean> <pew transport> that it is PBS???
20:00:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I knew he was still banned
20:00:42  <TWerkhoven> i thought the name was familiar
20:00:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And his speech, cant forget it :)
20:00:58  <Stablean> <pew transport> ligth traffic??
20:01:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
20:01:06  <Stablean> <pew transport> PBS?
20:01:10  <Stablean> <pew transport> ligth traffic??
20:01:13  <TWerkhoven> russian wiki:
20:01:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats the name of the signal
20:01:22  <TWerkhoven> then click the russian flag at the top
20:01:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
20:01:41  <TWerkhoven>
20:01:46  <Stablean> <pew transport> rissian wiki not work
20:01:58  <V453000> I certainly do NOT speak russian
20:02:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol Oki :D
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20:02:32  <TWerkhoven> works for me, xcept i can't read more than Openttd
20:02:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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20:04:09  <V453000> hmm :o
20:04:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Connection problems again? :P
20:05:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BRB
20:09:20  <V453000> seems like it
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20:09:23  <Stablean> <pew transport> say plz full name PBS
20:09:33  <V453000> path based signals
20:09:51  <V453000> or also Pretty Bad Signalling
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20:13:45  <Stablean> <pew transport> that a signal number this pbs :DDD
20:13:47  <Stablean> <pew transport> plzz
20:13:56  <Stablean> <pew transport> dont faund
20:13:58  <Stablean> <V453000> ??
20:14:04  <Stablean> <pew transport> 1-2-3-4-5-6
20:14:09  <Stablean> <V453000> 7
20:14:23  <Stablean> <V453000> no, path based signals are 5 and 6
20:15:03  <Stablean> <pew transport> need after or befor station
20:15:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
20:15:54  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> check sign !Pbs
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20:21:33  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Is CL2 ok for TL 3 network?
20:21:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Depends on top speed
20:22:14  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yea, but i dont know what chris has in mind
20:22:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you want fast trains to run on the network later at full speed then i think CL3 is a must
20:22:32  <Stablean> <Rieksts> its 99kmph atm
20:22:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well not it should be fine
20:23:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But easier to just do CL3 and not have to worry about it in future IMO
20:23:36  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ya, i just have 1 CL2 curve  in  BBH im building
20:23:53  <Stablean> <Rieksts> guess il rearrange it
20:24:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i guess you could but its gonna make uprgading it later a pain
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20:25:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh, i hope spiderboys company dies...
20:25:20  <Stablean> <Mks> qhy?
20:25:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna need that space later ofc :)
20:25:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> He chose a really bad train too :/
20:28:16  <Stablean> <V453000> HOLY SHIT! I accidentally autoreplaced to the 64kmh electric engine
20:28:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> To?
20:28:26  <Stablean> <V453000> instead of the 120kmh one
20:28:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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20:31:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> can't build bridges?
20:32:07  <TWerkhoven> max bridgelength is 10
20:32:29  <TWerkhoven> so you can't cross water much betweeen islands
20:32:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> without tf
20:33:05  <Stablean> <V453000> that will cost stuff
20:33:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> A lot of stuff
20:33:18  <Stablean> <Rieksts> 62mil for each water bump
20:33:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ships are high as well?
20:33:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
20:34:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> max is 10 ok......
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20:40:56  <Stablean> <V453000> Phil: problem at sawmill
20:41:10  <Stablean> <Phil> thx
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20:45:56  <Stablean> <Mks> yikes some bridges are expensive
20:46:01  <Stablean> <dh2k3> very
20:46:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> On water tiles
20:46:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Make sure its full on land
20:46:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (no sloped water tiles)
20:46:31  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yeah you have to build them 1 z-level above water if the ends are not on straight slopes
20:46:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
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20:48:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BRB
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21:04:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
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21:07:48  <Stablean> <Rieksts> agh, i shouldhad built crossjoin instead of 2 balancers
21:11:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:12:00  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> don't tunnels automatically have the same lenght-restriction as bridges?
21:12:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope :)
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21:14:09  <Stablean> <Anson> two setings in advanced ... 8 for bridges and 2048 for tunnels (in this game) ... :-)
21:14:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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21:18:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so why are there traps?
21:18:28  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
21:18:30  <Stablean> <V453000> not traps
21:18:42  <Stablean> <V453000> memories
21:19:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What?
21:19:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the question still remains
21:19:16  <Stablean> <V453000> I assume someone wants to double engines
21:19:23  <Stablean> <Rieksts> so we can finnaly expan the mainlines
21:19:29  <Stablean> <V453000> o
21:19:35  <Stablean> <Rieksts> chris built those memories
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21:31:53  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> huh
21:32:01  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> nope
21:32:11  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> @ phil
21:32:21  <Stablean> <Phil> ok :)
21:32:56  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> I just need some drop offs on that island
21:33:00  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> otherwise no business there
21:33:10  <Stablean> <Phil> fine by me
21:33:16  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> :)
21:38:01  <Stablean> <Rieksts> and il use crossjoin instead of 2 ballancers
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21:40:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey Phil
21:40:57  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah?
21:41:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> you doing anything in Slarfingford?
21:41:24  <Stablean> <Phil> you can use the twon
21:41:28  <Stablean> <Phil> town*
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21:49:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dumb livestock train
21:51:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear passengers thank you for riding the train and making money :)
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21:56:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err
21:56:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thanks i guess
21:56:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> payback :)
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22:02:54  <Stablean> <Rieksts> agh
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22:13:34  <Stablean> <Rieksts> there
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22:17:33  <Stablean> <Rieksts> me
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22:30:45  <Stablean> <Rieksts> hmm idk, looks good.
22:31:05  <Stablean> <Rieksts> il get build 1 slh
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22:37:45  <Stablean> <MMavipc> anyone want help?
22:38:17  <Stablean> <Phil> i would if i knew u wouldn't blow up my company :P
22:38:30  <Stablean> <MMavipc> I wont blow up your company, I promise :P
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22:39:19  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... i was building, removing and building tracks for a new station since space was very tight, and when i removed them the second time, also the obstacle (a refinery) was gone :-) ... just the opposite of usual, when a resource disappears just in the same moment when the first train arrives
22:39:29  <Stablean> <Rieksts> those 2 coal mines
22:39:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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22:43:15  <Stablean> <Rieksts> how long prios do we need?
22:43:15  <Stablean> <Rieksts> ok
22:43:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wow the town is expanding :D
22:49:10  <Stablean> <Rieksts> we should replace the coal cars
22:49:43  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Tora cars are much better
22:53:05  <Stablean> <Rieksts> you let some trains go?
22:53:35  <Stablean> <Rieksts> il let some wood trains go too
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23:02:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> that was close
23:03:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
23:03:05  <Stablean> <dh2k3> missed a crash by one car
23:03:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
23:03:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> replacing my 120kph trains for 130kph :)
23:04:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> kph? Where are you from?
23:04:16  <Stablean> <dh2k3> america
23:04:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont you huys use kmh? :P
23:04:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *guys
23:04:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> we use mph
23:04:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Really? Didnt know that
23:05:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mph is the best anyway :)
23:05:11  <Stablean> <Rieksts> isnt
23:05:15  <Stablean> <Phil> is :P
23:05:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> is
23:05:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no its not
23:05:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is soooooo not
23:05:31  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Km/h is the way its meant to be meashured!
23:05:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :) You Mainlan Europeans are just weird...
23:05:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *Mainland
23:05:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah
23:05:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but can you tell me
23:05:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how many inch go in afeet
23:05:53  <Stablean> <Phil> kph is for those crazy europeans
23:05:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 12?
23:05:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how many feet go into a mile
23:06:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea :)
23:06:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that makes sense
23:06:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But ive never had to convert (I dont think)
23:06:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> DECIMAL SYSTEM RULES
23:06:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 12 inches = 1ft, 5,280ft = 1mi
23:06:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that's very sane
23:06:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know metric with its .1 scale is easier but imperial is just better
23:06:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and "us" europeans are insane for using a decimal system
23:06:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> we use metric :)
23:06:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You drive on the wrong side of the road too :)
23:07:01  <V453000> :D
23:07:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that doesnt matter to me
23:07:17  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i dont.
23:07:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wrong no we drive on the right not left ;)
23:07:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont care if you drive left or right
23:07:35  <V453000> well for example ft is good when measuring something in the garden or in a flat when you have no meter, but otherwise decimals are just sooo much more making sense
23:07:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but please, in a country, all drive on the same side :P
23:07:52  <V453000> -> british are poor so they dont have even measuring meters
23:07:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep easier but stupid :)
23:07:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
23:08:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> haha
23:08:07  <V453000> just feet fingers etc
23:08:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Counting in 10's is boring at least imperial measurements are interesting :)
23:08:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that's a valid argument
23:08:57  <V453000> :D
23:08:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know right? :D
23:09:35  <V453000> the ONLY measure that makes more sense in britain is a pint - because it is more than 0.5l, right?
23:09:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i think
23:09:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe
23:09:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
23:10:10  <Stablean> <Rieksts> I wonder, why we dont use decimal time system
23:10:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where are you from?
23:10:23  <Stablean> <Phil> 1 pint = .58 liter
23:16:03  <V453000> awesome that is almost 20% more beer
23:16:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Fast response :)
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23:24:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear town please continue to expand :)
23:24:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably wont now :P
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23:27:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb Chris Booth
23:27:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey CB
23:27:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
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23:28:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> my internet is sucking my cocks tofay
23:28:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> today
23:28:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
23:28:33  <Stablean> <Phil> u more than 1 cock? :O
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23:28:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
23:28:50  <Stablean> <Rieksts> oh hey chris
23:28:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> must be about 14 to be this shit
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23:30:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> anybody have a bank?
23:30:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont think so
23:31:02  <Stablean> <Phil> flardingham has 1
23:31:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> new mail trucks being tested
23:37:58  <Stablean> <Rieksts> where
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23:41:33  <Stablean> <Rieksts> would have 1 huge system
23:48:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> replacing mail and iron trucks :)
23:48:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> err goods and iron rather
23:48:38  <Stablean> <Rieksts> The game devs have to do something about signaling. it is very tedious .
23:48:44  <Stablean> <Rieksts> or is it just me
23:48:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Really?
23:48:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was more tedious
23:48:50  <Stablean> <Rieksts> The interface
23:48:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know the hotkeys, right?
23:48:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Want tedious, play locomotion...
23:49:09  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i know S is for signals
23:49:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a summons the autorail tool
23:49:29  <Stablean> <Rieksts> but how to switch betveen PBS and normal signals.
23:49:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> s summons signals
23:49:37  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yea
23:49:43  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i do that
23:49:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> press ctrl while working
23:49:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it cycles through all of the signals
23:50:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> watch !here
23:50:13  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i set it to cycle only trough presignals
23:50:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then dont do that :P
23:50:37  <Stablean> <Rieksts> well i like it better that way
23:50:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, you were just complaining
23:51:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so unless you like complaining, you dont like it :P
23:51:17  <Stablean> <Rieksts> i wish there was some faster way to switch betveen them
23:51:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> faster than ctrl?
23:51:34  <Stablean> <Rieksts> and Devs should let me assign my own hotkeys :D
23:51:50  <Stablean> <Anson> the only problem i have with signals is that the switches for replacing and deleting don't reset when i select another signal
23:51:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, i see an oppurtunity for you :P
23:52:23  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yeah, learn C++ or whatever they use to code this and do it myself :D
23:52:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah :D
23:52:54  <Stablean> <Rieksts> Idk if they let 3rd party code in so easly
23:53:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the people coding this are all also volunteers you know :P
23:53:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and then they get this crap, from you, over them
23:53:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> devs should do this
23:53:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> devs should do that
23:54:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
23:54:17  <Stablean> <Rieksts> yeah. I know. Not like im saying that to them
23:54:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nothing wrong with suggestions
23:54:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Without them a product would never improve :)
23:54:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, but put it in the right place
23:54:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's a special forum for it
23:55:01  <Stablean> <Rieksts> I already put some suggestions it their website
23:55:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There you go :P
23:55:40  <Stablean> <Rieksts> but this one should be quite popular i did not want to repeat someone
23:56:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there we go
23:56:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a nice income again :D

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