Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 23rd June 2011:
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00:10:50  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
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00:15:27  <Sylf> Anson: build some loooooong train :D
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00:22:07  <Stablean> <Giraffe> woah
00:22:11  <Stablean> <Giraffe> my stuff is still here
00:22:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> :p
00:22:46  <Stablean> <Anson> sylf : long train ? my TL is 4 :-)
00:23:08  <Stablean> <Anson> you sw the mess ?
00:23:18  <Stablean> <Anson> you saw the mess ? .-)
00:23:38  <Stablean> <Giraffe> omg
00:23:42  <Stablean> <Giraffe> my stuff is producing so much
00:24:34  <Stablean> <Anson> how much do you earn now ? almost 5 mil per year ? ... nice, considering you started so late and came back only now
00:24:56  <Stablean> <Giraffe> me?
00:25:21  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... did the resources grow ? how much do they give now ? already 1000+ ?
00:25:32  <Stablean> <Giraffe> 700+ at this one
00:25:35  <Stablean> <Giraffe> buying a tonne of trains
00:26:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i have a real mess now, since many of my resources give 1000-2000 each, and until very recently, everything was transported on the same rail, including iron in one direction, steel in the other, goods again in the first, and empty goods trains back ....
00:26:56  <Stablean> <Anson> don't buy too many trains
00:27:07  <Stablean> <Giraffe> lol i only have like 9
00:27:09  <Stablean> <Giraffe> dont worry :P
00:27:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> those Lev5 seems to have pretty slow acceleration....
00:27:29  <Stablean> <Anson> you easily can get stuck like me ... the problem most often is not to have enough train but to have too many trains which block or jam each other
00:27:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> I would be very concerned about that first
00:27:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> also, just way too many trains on those rails
00:28:05  <Stablean> <Giraffe> do the yellow signals go before the track splits?
00:28:13  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... in one direction, they need more accelaration (in the jam), but in the other, they have nice max speed :-)
00:28:15  <Stablean> <Giraffe> and then the gray one goes into individual lane?
00:28:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> Giraffe: yep
00:28:58  <Stablean> <Anson> yellow bars on signals are for entry, and vertcal bars are for exit
00:29:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> entry and exit out of a given signal block (usually a splitting block)
00:29:31  <Stablean> <Anson> thus yellow horizontal = entry, yellow vertical = entry and exit = combo, and vertical grey = exit
00:45:49  <Stablean> <Giraffe> how much longer before this world resets?
00:45:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> dunno
00:46:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> I do have the power to reset :)
00:46:17  <Stablean> <Giraffe> dont
00:46:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> If players want it
00:48:14  <Stablean> <Giraffe> 1107 tonnes wooohoooo
00:52:45  <Stablean> <Anson> i need to finish at least one small piece of track, and then save game :-)
00:53:25  <Stablean> <Anson> how can i blow up a single house in a town with unfriendly mayor ?
00:53:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> destroy all trees around that town
00:53:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> then plant fresh batch of new trees
00:54:10  <Stablean> <Anson> or would you be allowed to blow it up for me ? .-)
00:54:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> like where?
00:54:33  <Stablean> <Anson> sign "BLOW UP"
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00:54:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> those are bunch of farm lands
00:55:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> just plant trees on those farm lands
00:55:23  <Stablean> <Anson> only the single house, directly under the sign
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00:55:39  <Stablean> <Giraffe> omg
00:55:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> I know that, but I'm trying to teach you that you can do it yourself
00:55:49  <Stablean> <Giraffe> can someone please destroy a path for me in great trondingworth
00:55:53  <Stablean> <doonz> GIIIIIIIIRAAAAAAAAAAFE
00:56:05  <Stablean> <Giraffe> hey doonz
00:56:29  <Stablean> <Giraffe> the city
00:56:45  <Stablean> <Giraffe> my track is gonna go liek that
00:56:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> you can destroy the whole city with the tree trick
00:56:53  <Stablean> <Giraffe> i know
00:56:53  <Stablean> <Giraffe> i tried
00:56:57  <Stablean> <Giraffe> they dont like me
00:57:03  <Stablean> <Giraffe> and investigator found me
00:57:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> destroy the trees on the other sides of that town too
00:57:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> just be careful with the water  tiles
00:57:42  <Stablean> <Giraffe> dont i buy trees nmow?
00:58:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> churches are almost impossible to destroy
00:58:30  <Stablean> <doonz> haha destroy it
00:58:38  <Stablean> <Giraffe> there we go
00:58:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> bank is simply impossible
00:58:43  <Stablean> <Giraffe> thats all i needed :P
01:02:48  <Stablean> <doonz> hey
01:02:52  <Stablean> <doonz> can someone blow up a house for me?
01:02:57  <Stablean> <doonz> at sign "BLOW UP"
01:03:43  <Stablean> <Anson> THANKS ... now the track has two rails :-)
01:04:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> you should rework that split to the factory
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01:05:05  <Sylf> grr
01:05:36  <Sylf> oh well, it's a good stopping point and eat :)
01:05:37  <Sylf> ta-ta
01:05:52  <Stablean> <doonz> cya!
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02:14:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yo
02:14:40  <Stablean> <doonz> hi there!
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03:32:01  <Stablean> <doonz> ready :p
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03:33:37  <Stablean> <doonz> SL*
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03:46:44  <Sylf> o_O
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10:26:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi all
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10:34:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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10:35:49  <TWerkhoven> mornin
10:38:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> still this boring game
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12:08:11  <Stablean> <Snakeviech> hi all
12:08:28  <Stablean> <SCP> hi
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12:30:04  <Sylf> hrm, what happened here... No GRF?
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12:52:34  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
12:52:34  <Stablean> Sylf: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/
12:52:40  <Sylf> !rcon ls
12:52:40  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
12:52:40  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
12:52:40  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
12:52:40  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
12:52:40  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) game.sav
12:52:41  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 4 more messages
12:52:49  <Sylf> !rcon cd 3
12:52:52  <Sylf> !rcon ls
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableArcS01.sav
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableTemp64.sav
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableArc28.sav
12:52:53  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 18 more messages
12:53:04  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
12:53:06  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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12:53:32  <Sylf> !rcon delete_company 1
12:53:33  <Stablean> Sylf: ERROR: command not found
12:53:58  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
12:53:58  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
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12:54:32  <Sylf> now, this should be much closer to our normal
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13:09:44  <Stablean> <dixon> why is it paused ?
13:09:48  <Stablean> <BlackBeaver> no idea
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13:12:57  <V453000> !auto
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13:31:04  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Hola
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13:40:11  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> moin
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13:43:11  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Hi >Chris
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13:43:23  <Stablean> <Chris> Hi :)
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14:03:02  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi game I see
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14:23:11  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi phil
14:23:17  <Stablean> <Phil> hello all
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14:54:06  <Stablean> <Phil> right peeps im off for a swim
14:54:14  <Stablean> <Phil> be back in an hour oe ao
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15:43:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> max train length is 5?
15:46:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> crud
15:47:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> need to doublehead these trains
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15:51:32  <Stablean> <dh2k3> note to self: doublehead the trains
15:53:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> think I need to reset
15:53:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> anybody know how to reset?
15:56:02  <Stablean> <dh2k3> anybody?
15:58:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> come on go broke please
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16:04:23  <Stablean> <insulfrog> what are you doing dh?
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16:07:01  <Stablean> <insulfrog> gotta go
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16:07:16  <Stablean> <dh2k3> need to go broke
16:07:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and reset
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16:08:28  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> woot, there's an official ICQ for Linux Client available
16:08:31  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> :)
16:09:16  <TWerkhoven> ooh, icq, not heard that name for a while
16:10:42  <leg3nd^work> Arr why do time go so slow. i wish i where really near a timezone line so i just can jump over the line, and say Arr im off work now.
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16:43:11  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
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17:31:16  <Stablean> <Phil> double heading my trains was a bad idea with only train length 5 :(
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18:04:06  <Stablean> <Phil> kakabux
18:04:08  <Stablean> <Phil> bus
18:04:11  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> :?
18:04:16  <Stablean> <Phil> check my sign plz
18:05:05  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> MAKE IT NARROW (FLAT)....
18:05:24  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> U CAN MAKE 6 RAILS
18:05:41  <Stablean> <Phil> i dont need 6
18:05:49  <Stablean> <Phil> i need 4 but that need that tile
18:05:59  <Stablean> <Phil> thx
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18:20:48  <Stablean> <Player> hi
18:22:33  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#12)
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18:22:41  <Stablean> <Drys> ку
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18:39:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what is the deal with the max 5 station for cars?
18:39:58  <Stablean> <Phil> i don't kjnow
18:40:02  <Stablean> <Phil> but it caught me out too
18:40:14  <Stablean> <dh2k3> all that means is more trains
18:40:36  <Stablean> <Phil> i planned to double head 7 tile trains
18:40:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> same here for the coal trains
18:40:50  <Stablean> <Phil> bought my locos then realized i could only 5
18:41:08  <Stablean> <Phil> now i have double head 5 tiles and they don't make much money
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18:49:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> well at least I am making money this time
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18:50:18  <Stablean> <Drys> what need to do here for win?!
18:50:30  <Stablean> <Phil> enjoy yourself
18:50:32  <Stablean> <dh2k3> this isn't that type of server
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18:50:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> just make sure to follow the !rules though
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18:51:14  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
18:51:16  <Stablean> <Drys> rele
18:51:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> right V4?
18:51:20  <Stablean> <Siggy> hui
18:51:22  <Stablean> <Phil> hey v
18:51:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi Mr V sir
18:51:57  <Stablean> <Drys> sigyy ты имел ввиду Хуй?
18:52:03  <Stablean> <Siggy> yes?
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18:52:27  <Stablean> <V453000> english only please
18:52:46  <Stablean> <Drys> this is bad word )
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18:55:32  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey V4 any reason why max 5 for station length for trains?
18:56:14  <Stablean> <V453000> any reason why not to?
18:56:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> usually it's 7
18:56:28  <Stablean> <V453000> so now it is 5
18:56:32  <Stablean> <dh2k3> it caught us off guard is all
18:56:46  <Stablean> <V453000> yes because you build stupidly long trains
18:57:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> it's an american thing :)
18:57:21  <Stablean> <V453000> the stupid or long?
18:57:38  <Stablean> <dh2k3> long trains
18:57:52  <Stablean> <V453000> well
18:57:54  <Stablean> <V453000> who cares :)
18:58:00  <Stablean> <V453000> in this game it still is stupid
18:58:17  <insulfrog> trains in the USA are know to be as long as 2 miles
18:59:08  <Stablean> <V453000> thats great but what does OpenTTD have to do with USA
19:00:47  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, I did not set the limit of 5 but I agree with it
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19:01:08  <Stablean> <V453000> 5 is on the top of reasonability
19:01:18  <Stablean> <insulfrog> some people like to build usa-style networks on openttd, but rules are rules in this case
19:01:41  <Stablean> *** Siggy has left the game (leaving)
19:01:45  <Stablean> <V453000> this is not about rules but about the fact that longer trains just mean to short curves and dumb constructions
19:02:00  <Stablean> <V453000> *mean/lead
19:02:20  <Stablean> *** Cameron has started a new company (#14)
19:03:02  <Stablean> <V453000> there is a reason why do we use TLs 2-5 in normal cases
19:03:17  <Stablean> <V453000> 6 usually comes with some slower trains for slower curves
19:03:26  <Stablean> <insulfrog> indeed, especially in this sort of terrain
19:03:48  <Stablean> <V453000> well, playing a flat map is dull
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19:09:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> think I'm starting to make money this time :)
19:09:39  <Stablean> <insulfrog> cool
19:10:26  <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (connection lost)
19:10:42  <Stablean> <insulfrog> dh...check your finances...i think you just jinxed yourself :p
19:10:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> o no...wait
19:11:30  <Stablean> <insulfrog> how did you get 35k+ in 1 go?
19:11:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> caol trains :)
19:11:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> coal*
19:12:11  <Stablean> <insulfrog> (maybe your lenghty trains ARE paying off this time :) )
19:16:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> crud
19:16:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> doublehead again
19:16:31  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#15)
19:17:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> now the trains are jamming because of it
19:26:29  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
19:27:00  <Stablean> <Anson> who made the GRF for wagins ? ... there is a tanker wagon for livestock ??? :-)
19:27:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> pikka
19:30:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> crud no wonder his trains made no money
19:32:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Anson Pikkabird did
19:33:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> part of the UKRS set
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19:36:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> finally loan free :)
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19:36:41  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> me too
19:37:03  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> didn't know i was online twice
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19:46:53  <Stablean> <Anson> OUCH ... what kind of game is this ? 90 degree turns allowed ???
19:47:03  <TWerkhoven> where?
19:47:29  <Ammler> !setdef
19:47:29  <Stablean> *** Ammler has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
19:47:42  <Ammler> Anson, still?
19:48:20  <Stablean> <Anson> it happened at sign "90 degree"
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19:48:28  <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has started a new company (#10)
19:48:34  <Stablean> <Anson> sending a train from depot at the right station to the left station
19:49:06  <TWerkhoven> fine now
19:49:53  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you may want to make the entrance signals pbs though, like the ones at the platforms
19:51:00  <Stablean> <Anson> TWerk : who ? where ?
19:51:18  <TWerkhoven> same station
19:52:01  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you have pbs semaphores for trains coming from the platforms, but blocksignal semaphores for trains entering the station
19:52:17  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> so any train in the station will stop anything else from entering
19:53:19  <Stablean> <Anson> don't understand ... you are speaking with me ? ... just lok at it now : one train enters while another leaves
19:53:31  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> and another train is not able to enter
19:53:41  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> the entering train entered the block before the leaving train
19:53:57  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> the leaving train is unhindered because its signalled by a pathsignal
19:54:44  <Stablean> <Anson> strange .. i recently had a station with 6 platforms, PBS oneway for entering, and the other PBS at platforms for faster exit ... and it worked
19:54:56  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> pbs both ends works
19:55:10  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> but the entrance signals are plain standard blocksignals, not pathsignals
19:55:12  <Stablean> <Drys> wiil last year be 2100 ?
19:55:22  <Stablean> <Drys> )
19:55:28  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> drys: last year varies
19:55:35  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> depends on when ppl get bored of this map
19:55:37  <Stablean> <Anson> OUCH ... must have replaced the signals with the wrong type
19:55:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> or longer as the server stays on for 48-72hrs before it changes agaon
19:55:42  <Stablean> <Drys> and here?
19:56:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> we just answered your question :)
19:56:54  <Stablean> <Drys> oO u don't alone?
19:57:21  <Stablean> <Anson> TWerk : thanks for telling me about the signal ... if i don't doublecheck with a magnifying glass, i miss the details :-(
19:59:22  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> np, i only discovered by accident
20:00:38  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice to have a GRF with bigger signals ... where the green and red dots are not only single or double pixels, but really dots
20:01:10  <Stablean> <Anson> from the front, it is ok now, but signals shown from the backside are very difficult to see
20:01:46  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you could always create one
20:01:58  <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost)
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20:02:21  <Stablean> <Anson> have a look at "dotted signal" ... hardly to see from the backside whether it is red or green
20:02:43  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> yes, because the lights are on the other side
20:02:52  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you could use semaphores all around i suppose
20:03:06  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> up is green, down is red (i think)
20:03:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i already thought about creating a new grf, but : 1. i need to learn about creating/modifying grfs first, and 2. the grf would need to be used by the server, not by me !?
20:03:26  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> actually horizontal is red, angled up is green
20:03:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and yellow is on a 45
20:03:48  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> 1: have a look on the wiki if you want
20:03:58  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> 2: server cant use a grf untill it is made
20:04:04  <Stablean> <Anson> i have the habit of using semaphores for pbs and normal signals for block ... need a third type for enter/combo/exit :-)
20:04:24  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> just use lights for that, they all have boards
20:05:03  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice if such grfs which do not change the gameplay could be set individually ... like signals, tunnels, etc
20:05:37  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> may I invest in someones company?
20:05:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> not allowed
20:05:55  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> there are other ways
20:06:19  <Stablean> <Anson> but one option which might be useful to not be set by players : currency :-) ... it is always confusing when people are speaking of euro, pounds, dollars, and whatever when they compare costs
20:06:49  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> I give someone some money and if he wants, he gives it back...
20:07:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> oh that is allowed
20:07:06  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> sure
20:07:06  <Stablean> <Anson> have to go AFK now ... let's hope my company makes profit now
20:07:08  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you'd need local and global (gamewide) grfs then
20:07:26  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> you'd have to open a feature request, but i dont see it happening
20:07:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't either :-) .-(
20:07:58  <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has left the game (leaving)
20:08:06  <Stablean> <Anson> there are much more important things to work on
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20:12:57  <Stablean> <Drys> so, this map dosn't interesting.. no winners((  play and play (
20:13:29  <TWerkhoven> play and learn
20:13:56  <TWerkhoven> and try to extend to resources deep in someone else's network (provided he/she isnt already harvesting it off course)
20:14:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I thought walking stations wasn't allowed?
20:15:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> am I wrong?
20:15:30  <TWerkhoven> you are right
20:15:47  <TWerkhoven> but sometimes the challenge is simply getting a station and railways close enough
20:17:33  <Stablean> <Drys> transport hasn't breaks(
20:17:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> TW u on IRC or ingame?
20:17:57  <TWerkhoven> both
20:18:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k
20:19:39  <Stablean> <Drys> I am going to find another server... with breaks and finish line
20:22:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> KAKABUS CZ ?
20:22:43  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> :?
20:22:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> any reason why you are walking stations?
20:23:30  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> WALKING STATIONS?
20:24:10  <Stablean> *** Drys has left the game (leaving)
20:24:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> It is prohibited to "teleport" cargo or walk stations in cities. Elsewhere a bit of walking does not hurt, until it is in large scale.
20:27:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> heh someone is going to go broke
20:27:32  <Stablean> <insulfrog> who?
20:27:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> thought planes and boats had high running costs
20:28:32  <TWerkhoven> supposed to be
20:28:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> it's not :S
20:28:54  <TWerkhoven> mainly because they and ships use quite a bit of cpu compared to trains
20:29:58  <Stablean> <insulfrog> i noticed that land and sea terraforming isn't that quite expensive too :)
20:30:57  <Stablean> <insulfrog> bridge building over sea on uneven land is alot cheaper too
20:31:23  <Stablean> <dh2k3> would seem they forgot to do something about it
20:31:29  <Stablean> <Phil> sush!
20:31:47  <Stablean> <Phil> my whole game is built around the fact tf is cheap
20:31:47  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (general error)
20:31:51  <Stablean> <Phil> if they increase it
20:31:53  <Stablean> <Phil> im doomed
20:32:05  <Stablean> <dh2k3> nah :)
20:32:32  <Stablean> <Phil> i've double headed my 5 tile trains so im not making much profit
20:32:40  <Stablean> <Phil> if tf is turned up
20:32:48  <Stablean> <Phil> ill need to fix all my trains
20:32:54  <Stablean> <Phil> or never make money
20:33:14  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I doubleheaded mine and still making a profit
20:33:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> slowly
20:33:36  <Stablean> <Phil> good for you :)
20:33:52  <Stablean> <Phil> your trains must be traveling further than mine
20:34:20  <Stablean> <Phil> my trains have 250k income per year with ruuning costs of 150k
20:34:26  <Stablean> <Phil> so i make 100k profit per year
20:34:31  <Stablean> <Phil> that's not much
20:34:41  <Stablean> <insulfrog> must be that 'USA' intuition dh ;)
20:35:53  <Stablean> <Phil> also dh is using faster trains than me
20:36:01  <Stablean> <Phil> i can't afford to upgrade though
20:36:11  <Stablean> <Phil> i haven't even paid off my loan yet :/
20:36:19  <Stablean> <dh2k3> these are the 30k trains Phil
20:36:23  <TWerkhoven> mebbe you should ask timmaex to invest
20:36:48  <Stablean> <Phil> nah i'd sooner struggle
20:36:54  <Stablean> <Phil> it's more fun :)
20:37:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> there Phil no loan :)
20:37:40  <Stablean> *** dh2k3 has requested an admin
20:37:52  <Stablean> <Phil> meh
20:37:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> :)
20:38:12  <Stablean> <Phil> wont let me give it back to you :/
20:38:21  <Stablean> <insulfrog> well...for me, with a good hill climbing steamer and tl3 trains, i am making a nice little earner
20:38:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> pay off the loan first :)
20:38:44  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah when i can aford to :)
20:38:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> you can afford half of it :)
20:38:55  <TWerkhoven> you could do that phil, split up your dualhead tl5 trains into single-head tl2.5 trains
20:39:10  <TWerkhoven> you may end up with some spare trains for an extra coalmine
20:39:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> speaking of which
20:40:14  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i could but i'll stick with this
20:40:33  <Stablean> <Phil> i've just made a long coal run so this should boost my income quite a bit
20:41:06  <Ammler> dh2k3: what's up?
20:41:14  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Ammler check
20:41:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Brundinghall
20:41:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and Landingworth Falls
20:42:10  <Ammler> why do I need to?
20:42:26  <Stablean> <dh2k3> station walking
20:42:26  <Ammler> !rcon companies
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'BlackBeaver Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 3777102  Loan: 500000  Value: 3303494  (T:7, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: #:2(Blue) Company Name: 'dixon Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 13359  Loan: 250000  Value: 1  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: #:3(Dark Blue) Company Name: 'Free Software Foundation'  Year Founded: 1921  Money: 1022798  Loan: 0  Value: 1231900  (T:8, R:0, P:4, S:0) protected
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: #:4(Orange) Company Name: 'insulfrog Transport'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 1763179  Loan: 0  Value: 2067942  (T:30, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: #:5(Mauve) Company Name: 'DnZ-Ali Transport'  Year Founded: 1935  Money: 5181514  Loan: 250000  Value: 5243038  (T:21, R:54, P:0, S:0) protected
20:42:27  <Stablean> Ammler: you have 9 more messages
20:42:29  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> HCL + NAOH = NACL + 2 x H2O
20:42:46  <Ammler> !players
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 582 (Yellow) is KAKABUS CZ, in company 11 (KAKABUS CZ Transport)
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 573 (Green) is Phil, in company 6 (My company > Your's)
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 581 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 4 (insulfrog Transport)
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 532 is TWerkhoven, a spectator
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 595 (Pale Green) is dh2k3, in company 13 (dh2k3 Transport)
20:42:49  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 593 (Purple) is NiViK, in company 12 (Player Transport)
20:42:51  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 605 (Dark Green) is Anson, in company 15 (Anson Transport)
20:42:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> that is right KAKABUS CZ but we're not in chem class :)
20:42:58  <Ammler> from who?
20:43:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> from no one but I thought walking stations wasn't allowed or am I mistaken?
20:43:34  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> H3PO4 + H2SO4= ?
20:43:40  <Ammler> how can station walk be from noone?
20:43:50  <Stablean> <dh2k3> It is prohibited to "teleport" cargo or walk stations in cities. Elsewhere a bit of walking does not hurt, until it is in large scale.
20:44:06  <Ammler> well, it's not forbidden, but if it bothers you, I can reset the company
20:44:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> just wondering that is what the player is doing or not
20:45:10  <Ammler> distant join abusing depends quite much
20:45:31  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings station
20:45:32  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
20:45:32  <Stablean> Ammler: station.never_expire_airports = on
20:45:32  <Stablean> Ammler: station.station_spread = 8
20:45:32  <Stablean> Ammler: station.modified_catchment = on
20:45:32  <Stablean> Ammler: station.adjacent_stations = on
20:45:33  <Stablean> Ammler: you have 10 more messages
20:45:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what do you call that then?
20:45:57  <Ammler> I don't think, you can make distant join abusing here, as it is 8 tiles only
20:46:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> any reason why the running costs of planes and boats are low?
20:46:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> same for tf
20:46:45  <Ammler> majonaise
20:46:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ?
20:47:10  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> GOOD REASON
20:48:36  <Ammler> again, don't complain about settings, does someone abuse those?
20:49:50  <Stablean> <dh2k3> no one is abusing it just curious is all :)
20:50:06  <insulfrog> i...think it because we were used to it on the previous game...
20:50:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> more like all games insulfrog
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20:50:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
20:50:48  <Ammler> all fine, complain to scenario creator and complain to admin only, if the current game needs attention
20:51:12  <Ammler> and be aware, newgrf settings can't be changed...
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20:58:01  <Stablean> <insulfrog> well..gotta go, cyas :)
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20:58:05  <Stablean> <Phil> bb frog
21:04:25  <Stablean> <NiViK> who wonts my  corporate?
21:04:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> NTY Wnjoy your planes :)
21:04:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *Enjoy
21:05:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait are plane costs back to normal?
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22:39:06  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> STRIKE... LOOK GRAPH
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22:49:06  <Stablean> <doonz> sup and such
22:49:32  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> DRUM N BASE
22:49:40  <Stablean> <doonz> KA KA KAAAAAA
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22:59:04  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> merde
22:59:10  <Stablean> <doonz> eh
22:59:15  <Stablean> <Phil> shit!
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22:59:45  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> never change pbs signals during the trains are driving
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23:32:28  <Stablean> <Phil> don't give me money :/
23:32:42  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> PLAY !!!
23:33:11  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> NO ENEMY HERE:(
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