Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 27th January 2012:
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00:55:08  <Stablean> <chester> bb Ryan
00:55:15  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> bye mate
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01:13:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> hello
01:14:15  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hi
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04:32:31  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 12
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04:36:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> hullo
04:36:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> evening
04:37:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hows things ?
04:37:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> pretty good
04:38:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> my modest area is getting crowded
04:39:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> does look crowded
04:39:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> better expand ;)
04:40:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm trying to connect Fontana Forest somehow
04:40:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> use station spread as your friend ;)
04:41:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> and just like that, tight got tighter
04:41:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I prefer it tight
04:42:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :D
04:42:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm sure you do
04:42:36  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I think most would also
04:45:10  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you should flatten the hill near mellie?a north so an industry will grow there for an even bigger challenge ;)
04:46:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
04:46:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hehe
04:46:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> dont waste all of your money
04:46:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i can make a shill company and help ;)
04:46:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> that should be good
04:47:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :D
04:47:33  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> do you know off hand the process name for the package installer on ubuntu? I need to pkill one that is errant
04:48:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> dpkg?
04:48:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> apt-get?
04:48:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lemme check
04:48:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> aptitude?
04:48:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> the gui is....
04:48:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> synaptic
04:49:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i dont see any of those processes :S itll go away in a reboot i guess, i need to do that anyhow, just hate restarting
04:50:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> :/
04:50:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> your package database is locked?
04:50:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i jus cant close the old openttd installer thingy
04:50:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> package installer - openttd ( older verison than now )
04:51:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its been stuck on it for weeks, just super lazy here, like you got no idea
04:51:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> that was when you installed a .deb?
04:51:33  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes it would
04:51:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm, then it should have been dpkg...
04:51:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> ps -A | grep pkg ?
04:52:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> actually, the GUI version of dpkg might have another name to it...
04:52:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> metacity ?
04:53:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> that sounds like windows manager
04:53:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok well then that isnt it
04:53:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i swear it isnt on the list
04:53:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha
04:54:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> like
04:54:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i have 2 of them open now, a new one that will close and the old one that doent
04:54:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> or maybe gdebi
04:54:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gdebi-gtk ?
04:54:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
04:55:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok thats only around when i open a new one
04:55:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not the old one
04:55:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> that wont close
04:55:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
04:55:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> dont worry about it
04:55:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you have better things to do like build ;)
04:55:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> like, start delivering goods to Isla
04:55:58  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> exactly
05:01:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oh, hows the subway working out >?
05:01:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> check Xaghra out
05:01:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i was looking at that
05:02:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i dont like what it does with the diagonal tiles
05:02:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's half sweet
05:02:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sure is ;)
05:02:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i checked out the city tiles
05:03:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, like that one
05:03:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> there, they have tall buildings too
05:03:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and uh urban setting also
05:04:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> lol
05:04:06  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i think subay would be a better concept if there was another invisibilty toggle for underground
05:04:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> the station with tall building looks....
05:04:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> so wrong
05:04:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its more than a tall building though
05:04:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> theres mutiple buildings and they all like glow wierd
05:04:54  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> look like theyre all having a rave inside xD
05:06:09  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> personally i think it would be bad ass to have a tunnel that would connect to the subway ( all underground )
05:07:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the subway would have to be very costly otherwise everyone would use it
05:10:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ' maybe you should code a better subway and write the code for 2nd layer subway, meech '
05:10:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> great idea, im right on it. xD
05:11:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> go study CimCity 2000 and its subway system :D
05:11:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i played the crap outta that game, im all over that xD
05:11:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> once
05:11:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i built a whole city by using nothing but subway
05:11:58  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> no roads
05:12:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> id seriosly play that, i wish there were a opensimcity2000 ;)
05:13:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'll stay away from that one
05:13:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill have to bust out the original 3.5 floppes to play that ... even have the dos version
05:13:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> this game already eats up most of my non-beer hour evening free time
05:13:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha
05:13:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> this game is good though
05:13:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cant blame you
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05:17:57  <Sylf> hmmm, there's some process on the server that's taking up almost 100% of CPU resource...
05:18:04  <Sylf> sometimes over 100%...
05:18:16  <Sylf> oh wait, that's idle...
05:18:38  <Sylf> how can the CPU be 150% idle....
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05:20:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> overclocking?
05:20:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i take it you got kicked also ?
05:21:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> or timed out
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05:22:37  <Sylf> I'm watching top on this server...
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05:23:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> 150 idle is pretty lazy
05:23:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> better get the whip out
05:23:30  <Sylf> sometimes i/o wait % goes to negative...
05:23:38  <Sylf> and idle shoots way up
05:23:47  <Sylf> who knows.
05:28:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> odd
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05:29:50  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
05:29:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> lo
05:30:06  <Stablean> <Firestar> hows going?
05:30:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> damn good, actually
05:31:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> howdy
05:31:37  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
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05:58:14  <Stablean> <Firestar> hey big check out my newest line! XD
06:00:30  <Stablean> <Firestar> hey sylf wanna check out my newest passenger line! its pretty awesome
06:06:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what did you connect ?
06:06:58  <Stablean> <Firestar> just two towns
06:07:05  <Stablean> <Firestar> making another passenger line
06:07:11  <Stablean> <Firestar> check valetta
06:07:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you might want to edit the hill near ra?al?did sawmill
06:07:41  <Stablean> <Firestar> where?
06:08:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its a near a blue station ra?al?did sawmill
06:08:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> grr i ll make a sign
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06:08:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at !hill
06:08:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> trains were slowing down there
06:08:58  <Stablean> <Firestar> because of other trains
06:09:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> even on that other rail
06:09:08  <Stablean> <Firestar> or cant you see properly
06:09:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> slowing down to ~92
06:09:46  <Stablean> <Firestar> no it slows only down to 151 kmh
06:10:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gah, i hate metric equivalency
06:10:26  <Stablean> <Firestar> anyway check out the line between valetta and zurriq
06:11:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I love having a rave
06:12:16  <Stablean> <Firestar> and big dont be surprised if you see some houses in a row okay?
06:12:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I am in shock
06:12:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> someone catch me
06:13:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha. be back tomorrow
06:13:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> night
06:13:23  <Stablean> <Firestar> night
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06:13:44  <Sylf> gn
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15:55:49  <Stablean> NonNobis_: Client 399 is Big_Meech, a spectator
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16:40:27  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi chester
16:40:33  <Stablean> <chester> hi
16:40:43  <Stablean> <Firestar> hows going?
16:41:55  <Stablean> <Firestar> i wanted to ask ya if i could possibly transport the goods from your sawmill
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16:58:55  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi V453000
16:58:58  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
16:59:16  <Stablean> <chester> hi
17:00:43  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#6)
17:01:35  <Stablean> <V453000> o_O SNCF CC 40100 from 1964 goes 241 kmh?
17:02:11  <Stablean> <V453000> and I thought this set had hope
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17:02:57  <Stablean> <chester> how is you nuts?
17:03:15  <Stablean> <V453000> slowly but steadily :)
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17:21:15  <Stablean> <Firestar> everything running good?
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17:25:30  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
17:25:40  <Stablean> <chester> hi
17:25:42  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
17:29:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hi Ali :)
17:29:18  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> čau
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17:29:31  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
17:29:31  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> čau
17:29:33  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi liuk
17:29:45  <Stablean> <chester> hi
17:30:49  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> 1,1,5
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17:43:32  <Stablean> <Firestar> had today four hours later school
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17:48:29  <Stablean> <Firestar> gonna be back later cya all
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18:43:04  <Firestar> back
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18:48:52  <Stablean> <chester> how the fck a serviced town may drp its pop from 800 to 400 in 2 years
18:49:22  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> which town is that
18:49:40  <Stablean> <chester> sign
18:52:59  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> i think i might be mail.
18:53:25  <Stablean> <chester> check another then
18:53:31  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> put in a mil truck see if that helps
18:53:37  <Stablean> <chester> it keeps 1200-1800
18:56:11  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> im sure its a mail thing the biggiest city is seviced with just pass and mail
18:56:33  <Stablean> <chester> i have no mail @another
18:56:55  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> sorry i maean the biggest city on the map
18:57:29  <Stablean> <chester> it is connecter to a neighbor, maybe this is the clue
18:58:27  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> it is a bit strange tho, i still think towns should grow when serviced with people and goods
18:59:14  <Stablean> <chester> goods never had anything with growing
18:59:35  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> yeah i know but i think they should
18:59:59  <Stablean> <Firestar> or how should they build without the goods they need to?
19:03:22  <Stablean> <Firestar> i bet ya can never beat the production from valletta iron ore mine
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19:06:02  <Stablean> <Hank> hi
19:06:05  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
19:06:07  <Stablean> <chester> hi
19:11:54  <Stablean> <chester> maglev's running cost is 53 when running and 82 when standing
19:12:20  <Stablean> <Hank> strange
19:13:02  <Stablean> <chester> given that its cost >1m it is
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20:00:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> howdy all
20:00:50  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hi
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20:01:45  <Stablean> <chester> hi
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20:03:33  <Stablean> <V453000> evening
20:03:35  <Stablean> <chester> \
20:03:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> howdy
20:03:37  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hi
20:03:39  <Stablean> <chester> hi
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20:12:02  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> is anyone free to give me some help?
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20:14:56  <Stablean> <chester> wut ryan
20:15:26  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> i just needed some help with my line that was all
20:15:44  <Stablean> <chester> was all?
20:16:07  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> a problem with a junction that i cant quite work the best way to sort it out
20:16:21  <Stablean> <chester> place sign
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20:17:09  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> done  i may have fixed it a little
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20:17:36  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> but its causing a major que
20:18:11  <Stablean> <chester> you have 4 tracks in 1 direction, hows jamming possible
20:19:01  <Stablean> <Mazur> Sinble bridge causes temporary jams.
20:19:23  <Stablean> <chester> and a tunnel
20:19:30  <Stablean> <Mazur> Tunnel, I meant, yes.
20:21:36  <Stablean> <Mazur> PBS in front of tunnel splt, since you have no room for signals behind the split.
20:22:06  <Stablean> <Mazur> lcok signals directly behind both tunnels.
20:23:00  <Stablean> <Mazur> And behind those block signals, join to the west.
20:23:32  <Stablean> <chester> better drag this track abd build another bridge
20:24:02  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, and then remove the eatern track after that jon to hte next split.
20:25:13  <Stablean> <Mazur> Or let them run side by side until after the bridges liek that., works too.
20:26:56  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> thanks guys :)
20:27:14  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yw.
20:27:20  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> i will get better at some point
20:27:42  <Stablean> <chester> thats not the end, you just shifted this to the next bridge/tunnel
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20:38:57  <Stablean> <chester> since towns dont build roads they dont expand, but why dont they build skycrappers instead
20:39:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> Because teir sky is not itchy?
20:45:25  <Stablean> <chester> sncf no good you know?
20:45:37  <Stablean> <chester> siemens much better
20:45:41  <Stablean> <Mazur> Seems fine by me.
20:46:32  <Stablean> <chester> siemens has 12k hp against 6k and 230kph instead og 241
20:47:06  <Stablean> <chester> you chose 1964 yr tech
20:53:24  <Stablean> <Mazur> Well, back then I was in Egypt, walking along the Nile, and I'm performing well and not written off, either.
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21:09:57  <Firestar> hows going?
21:10:31  <Stablean> <Mazur> making a mess.
21:10:38  <Firestar> why?
21:10:53  <Stablean> <Mazur> Because I wasn't looking what I was doing.
21:11:04  <Firestar> train crash?
21:11:32  <Firestar> hey ya know ive got an iron ore mine with over 2k productio per month
21:12:39  <Stablean> <Mazur> Nice.
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21:38:40  <Stablean> <Firestar> ok my goods trains were all well fed with goods
21:38:56  <Stablean> <Firestar> they just come and leave
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22:20:48  <Stablean> <Firestar> hey mazur want to see my subway line?
22:21:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> Sure.
22:21:22  <Stablean> <Firestar> its near valletta
22:24:08  <Stablean> <Mazur> Btw, why do you use slow track at your staions?
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22:25:10  <Stablean> <Firestar> i just got some thought that it would be less risky for train crashes
22:25:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> Doesn;t matter in the slightest.
22:26:07  <Stablean> <Mazur> Compuyters can crash trains as easily on slow track as on fast track.
22:26:17  <Stablean> <Mazur> Or avoid crashes, similarly.
22:27:11  <Stablean> <Mazur> The only way you can crash trains is by removing a sign between two trains in the same signal glock after hte removal.
22:27:39  <Stablean> <Firestar> ive gotten earlier a train crash in an other way
22:28:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> No, you did not.
22:28:11  <Stablean> <Hank> they crash slower on slower track :P
22:28:29  <Stablean> <Firestar> it was on Singleplayer game
22:28:29  <Stablean> <Mazur> Trains can't crash when there are signals between them.
22:29:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> If you think they did, it's in your mind alone.
22:29:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> They simpy can not.
22:30:01  <Stablean> <Firestar> later on i saw in a lets play of ottd that two ttrains crashed because of an unknown reason
22:30:12  <Stablean> <Firestar> and it wasnt the signals fault
22:30:31  <Stablean> <Mazur> You did not.
22:30:57  <Stablean> <Firestar> dont try to argue
22:30:59  <Stablean> <Mazur> Someone mut have removed a signal between them.
22:31:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> I'm not arguing, I'm telling you how it is.
22:31:32  <Stablean> <Firestar> the lets player played a singleplayer game
22:31:46  <Stablean> <Firestar> and only he had trains
22:31:53  <Stablean> <Firestar> pc had only road vehicles
22:32:19  <Stablean> <Mazur> Road vehivles can crash into trains on level crossings.
22:32:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> But  the train survives.
22:32:43  <Stablean> <Firestar> two TRAINS crashed at one crossing
22:32:46  <Stablean> <Firestar> -.-
22:33:34  <Stablean> <Mazur> Then there were no signals between them, or someone removed a signal, or someone forced  a train to ignore the signal.
22:33:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> Those are the only ways it can happen.
22:33:59  <Stablean> <Firestar> and if i use slow tracks at stations i have much more time to react if theres danger of crashing
22:34:13  <Stablean> <Firestar> or it was a game bug
22:34:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> Must have been a very old version, then.
22:34:50  <Stablean> <Firestar> the lets play was made last year
22:34:53  <Stablean> <Mazur> Anyway, I'm back to my FIRS chart.  Have fun.
22:35:03  <Stablean> <Firestar> cya
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23:09:39  <Mazur> HI, CB.
23:15:57  <Chris_Booth> hi Mazur
23:16:27  <Mazur> Mostly busy on my FIRS chart.
23:16:48  <Chris_Booth> you supplying everything?
23:17:15  <Mazur> How do you mean?
23:17:29  <Mazur> I'm making a chart of cargo flow.
23:18:06  <Mazur> Like Fry3k did for 0.5.3, as I later learned, but for 0.7.0.
23:18:29  <Mazur> There's a post on the blog about it from me.
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23:19:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh wow
23:19:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what is this grey shit?
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23:20:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh god its 2CC with NUtracks
23:20:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fucking yuck
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