Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 18th April 2012:
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00:02:34  <V453000> updated,wagons in all views now
00:02:38  <V453000>
00:05:24  <Stablean> <Niko> BM I'm going to sleep
00:06:46  <Stablean> <Niko> gn
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00:18:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> night Niko
00:18:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi speedy
00:19:11  <BigMooch> nice curves ;)
00:19:20  <BigMooch> and yes, some of those lego builders, are nuts ;)
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00:22:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi teckers
00:22:56  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello :)
00:23:38  <Stablean> <Teckers> ohh the bridges are nice
00:24:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep, got the bridge set
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00:32:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> havent seen you in a while, teckers
00:33:00  <Stablean> <Teckers> no i usualy play goal servers, on btpro mostly
00:33:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aaah
00:33:09  <Stablean> <Teckers> just on here for a change :)
00:33:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep ;)
00:33:27  <Stablean> <Teckers> bit of eye candy :)
00:49:11  <BigMooch> eye candy makes my mouth water
00:49:58  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D the stations are good to play with
00:51:12  <BigMooch> sure are
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00:51:48  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello
00:51:59  <Stablean> <Phillip> H Teckers.
00:52:00  <BigMooch> hey philip
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01:09:05  <Stablean> <Teckers> my station tiles arnt working :( i was expecting piles of wood
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01:09:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm lemme see
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01:09:31  <Stablean> <Teckers> :)
01:09:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the wood only shows up if youre not collecting it
01:09:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> once the train leaves depot , you might see some wood
01:10:03  <Stablean> <Teckers> ahh ok i'll stop the train for a while
01:10:34  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah that will be it.. cheers
01:10:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well i dont htink you need to do that, but some logs might show up here or there
01:10:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aah yes
01:10:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there they are
01:10:47  <Stablean> <Teckers> working :)
01:10:55  <Stablean> <Teckers> thanks
01:11:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> only times ive seen that happen with a train in the station are when the industry is making so much that it takes too long for the train to load it, then you will also see a pile
01:12:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> same thing will go for your goods station
01:12:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if you drop, you will see goods if there is no waiting train
01:12:24  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah right, i havent used these before much
01:12:38  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah my town wont accept goods yet...
01:12:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think my favorite is the iron ore, or coal for the mineral loader station
01:13:26  <Stablean> <Teckers> coal looks nice as well
01:14:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i think i just like mineral piles
01:14:14  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
01:14:44  <Stablean> <Teckers> the moving cranes make me happy
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01:16:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sad that the other stations dont show too much
01:17:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh, looks like you lost a wood at les trailer park woods
01:17:48  <Stablean> <Teckers> lost?
01:17:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yea, forest is gone
01:18:03  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah crap!
01:18:14  <Stablean> <Teckers> ohh thats anoying
01:18:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure is
01:18:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry, but i gtg
01:18:44  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok cya
01:18:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> will see your progressin the morning ;)
01:18:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and remember, no ships =D
01:19:00  <Stablean> <Teckers> haha ok..
01:19:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ;')
01:19:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> later
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01:54:12  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello
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02:01:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> hello
02:01:10  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello :)
02:01:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> I see someone tried out a boat
02:01:25  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah really?
02:01:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> See Enoch Buoy
02:01:58  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah yeah
02:02:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> 5 Buoys connecting 2 cities....  Yup, I'm sure someone did.
02:02:15  <Stablean> <Teckers> bit of a mess that :D
02:04:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> LOL@Synaptic Transport
02:04:48  <Stablean> <Teckers> haha not much to see...
02:05:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> 1 presidential mansion, and that's it.
02:05:23  <Stablean> <Teckers> :P
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02:20:58  <Mazur> Has he now.
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11:06:15  <Stablean> <Mark> 'lo
11:06:18  <Stablean> <Jake> Hi
11:06:33  <Stablean> <Mark> who deleted the welcome signs?
11:06:52  <Stablean> <Jake> Not me
11:07:11  <Stablean> <Berkel> hi
11:07:17  <Stablean> <Jake> Signs should have a lock function or something
11:07:19  <Stablean> <Berkel> havent deleted anything
11:07:19  <Stablean> <Jake> Hi
11:07:24  <Stablean> <Mark> yea..
11:07:33  <Stablean> <Berkel> there were no signs but those from tips and tricks when i entered
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11:14:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
11:14:46  <Stablean> <Jake> hi
11:14:52  <Stablean> <Mark> hi meech
11:14:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hiya
11:17:32  <Stablean> <Jake> Only one road vehicle allowed?!
11:17:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
11:17:37  <Stablean> <Jake> This is madness
11:17:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no, this is nutz
11:17:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =P
11:17:50  <Mark> !rcon set max_roadveh 100
11:17:54  <Stablean> <Jake> but I suppose it's done to save cpu power
11:18:04  <Stablean> <Mark> you can have 100 now
11:18:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that too
11:18:16  <Stablean> <Jake> Nuts indeed. Great train set
11:18:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aww, so kind mark ;)
11:18:24  <Stablean> <Jake> Thank you Mark
11:18:28  <Stablean> <Mark> np
11:21:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you have a stuck train mark
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11:21:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> near ellerslie
11:22:07  <Stablean> <Mark> oh crap
11:22:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ;)
11:22:56  <Stablean> <Mark> there
11:22:58  <Stablean> <Jake> Look at the performance history
11:23:13  <Stablean> <Mark> yea well... :)
11:23:47  <Stablean> <V453000> are 2 ice trains really needed per TL5 Mark?
11:24:05  <Stablean> <Mark> probably not
11:24:11  <Stablean> <Mark> i only just replaced the firestarters
11:24:13  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
11:24:15  <Stablean> <Mark> which did need 2
11:24:17  <Stablean> <V453000> oh
11:24:33  <Stablean> <Mark> i'll probably change to 1 when i get a decent electric one
11:24:41  <Stablean> <Mark> wanna join in?
11:24:56  <Stablean> <V453000> not really but I will look into that
11:25:30  <Stablean> <Jake> V just wants to see his beautiful nuts in action
11:26:08  <Stablean> <V453000> just wants to make it work well :) if 2 engines are needed early but not late, itnt optimal
11:26:19  <Stablean> <Mark> of course
11:26:26  <Stablean> <Mark> i used 4 painkillers before the firestarters
11:26:33  <Stablean> <V453000> lol :)
11:26:36  <Stablean> <Mark> you cant do with 1 :P
11:27:50  <Stablean> <Mark> magic dozer please? :P
11:28:12  <Stablean> <Jake> I'd like to report a bug in NUTS
11:28:18  <Stablean> <Jake> See my train 3
11:28:30  <Stablean> <Jake> rear carriage is (not) reversed
11:28:48  <Stablean> <V453000> oh
11:28:50  <Stablean> <V453000> nice
11:28:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice catch ;)
11:29:41  <Stablean> <Jake> Really enjoying the set btw. I see you were inspired by the futuristic steam train pic I posted on the forums ;)
11:30:16  <Stablean> <V453000> fixed, thanks
11:30:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woot
11:30:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> which version of nuts is coming out?
11:30:38  <Stablean> <V453000> inspired ... a bit :)
11:30:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> .9 ?
11:30:44  <Stablean> <V453000> yes Meech
11:36:51  <Stablean> <V453000> hm, nothing outstandingly amazing but I think for the early stages of the game one firestarter per TL5 is enough
11:37:05  <Stablean> <Zazman> what is TL5?
11:37:07  <Stablean> <Mark> maybe
11:37:09  <Stablean> <V453000> I might move the intro date to 1920 though
11:37:11  <Stablean> <Mark> didnt even try tbh :D
11:37:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> TL5 = train length 5
11:37:17  <Stablean> <Mark> train length 5 tiles
11:37:20  <Stablean> <V453000> ^
11:37:38  <Stablean> <V453000> so you dont have to use painkillers from the start
11:37:48  <Stablean> <Mark> those things suck :)
11:38:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah because the pax wagons have constant weight
11:38:20  <Stablean> <V453000> so of course the weakest engine does suck with it
11:38:28  <Stablean> <Mark> for equal accel?
11:38:34  <Stablean> <Mark> do all trainsets have that btw?
11:38:41  <Stablean> <V453000> idk how other train sets have it
11:38:52  <Stablean> <V453000> mostly multiple types of wagons
11:39:02  <Stablean> <V453000> which I guess then differ in weight, but not over time
11:39:08  <Stablean> <V453000> well maybe even that
11:39:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I will probably just move firestarter to 1920 and done
11:39:48  <Stablean> <Mark> is that firestarter pax only btw?
11:39:51  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
11:39:57  <Stablean> <V453000> well, also mail and gold
11:40:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what about silver?
11:40:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I want a train robbery
11:40:25  <Stablean> <Mark> you dont want to rob gold?
11:40:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> actually
11:40:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that would be a good addition to disasters
11:40:39  <Stablean> <V453000> btw, if you have a longer distance feeder, using cargo trains is not a bad idea. They do not have increased capacity but they have good speed and loading times are something between ice and local
11:40:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ' your train has been robbed! '
11:40:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ' bandits took your logs ' xD
11:41:10  <Stablean> <Mark> V453000: would you say Minburn is long distance?
11:41:20  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, maybe not
11:41:42  <Stablean> <V453000> still ... there is the option ;)
11:42:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V, is there a possibility for really old engines? 1850 ?
11:42:18  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
11:42:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you could go steampunk with those
11:42:26  <Stablean> <V453000> about as high possibility as meteor hitting me in the nuts
11:42:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> LMAO
11:42:46  <Stablean> <Jake> You can already go steampunk really well with NUTS
11:42:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well good news is meteors hit earth all of the time
11:43:02  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, perhaps in some future version 2.0 ... but the amount of trains stays for a while now
11:43:04  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
11:43:06  <Stablean> <Jake> Especially the futuristic steamers
11:43:12  <Stablean> <V453000> hehe :)
11:43:22  <Stablean> <V453000> the black one you mean, or in general?
11:43:32  <Stablean> <Jake> Especially the black one :)
11:43:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> doombringaaaaaaaa
11:44:08  <Stablean> <Mark> that thing's awesome
11:44:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I wont spoil it, but theres a train thats my favorite, from a nuclear holocaust future where only hookers can give aliens pleasure
11:45:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello Zaz
11:45:12  <Stablean> <Mark> crap
11:45:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice
11:45:18  <Stablean> <Jake> Oh no!
11:45:27  <Stablean> <Mark> that had to happen i suppose
11:45:53  <Stablean> <V453000> the X E Qt R ?
11:46:11  <Stablean> <Mark> exwqueteeare?
11:46:29  <Stablean> <Jake> Is it intended that the express steamers carry passengers?
11:46:32  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
11:46:38  <Stablean> <V453000> but  very reduced amount
11:46:50  <Stablean> <V453000> 1/4th of wagon capacity
11:46:54  <Stablean> <Jake> I see
11:47:37  <Stablean> <V453000> the modern intercity trains have double of that I think
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11:47:44  <Stablean> <V453000> so 1/2 of wagons
11:48:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I know this is the canadian towns nameset
11:48:19  <Stablean> <Mark> alberta*
11:48:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but i dont think theres a Les Trailer Park in Canada
11:48:33  <Stablean> <V453000> btw Big Meech, I reduced the probability of the secret goods cargo to 1:256
11:48:43  <Stablean> <V453000> from the current 1:128
11:48:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> or my favorite, head smashed in buffalo jump ;)
11:48:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh Really V, how'd that work out ?! =D
11:49:49  <Stablean> <V453000> just did. :)
11:50:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
11:50:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thought it was limited to 128
11:50:31  <Stablean> <Mark> removing locs is a pain
11:50:37  <Stablean> <V453000> for one random block, yes
11:50:44  <Stablean> <V453000> I used a second one
11:50:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aaaah
11:50:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh,
11:50:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that would seem easy
11:50:55  <Stablean> <V453000> Mark: hard to hit the bin button with the train icon?
11:51:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> first block = same cargo, then 2nd block = secret cargo
11:51:21  <Stablean> <V453000> sort of
11:51:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm
11:51:54  <Stablean> <V453000> first block has 1:128 chance to link to the second block and the second block has 1:1 chance to make a duck
11:51:58  <Stablean> <Mark> V453000: !here
11:52:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> are you sure it wouldnt insted of add the block it would multiply the rarity to 16384 ?
11:52:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh
11:52:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes, that is correct then
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11:52:16  <Stablean> <Mark> trains completely freak out if they have to run into a terminus
11:52:30  <Stablean> <V453000> wha?
11:52:48  <Stablean> <V453000> you did some mass send to depot or?
11:52:48  <Stablean> <Mark> look at those trains leaving the depot running into the backs of signals
11:52:58  <Stablean> <Mark> yea to remove locs of course
11:53:01  <Stablean> <V453000> :/
11:53:03  <Stablean> <V453000> no wonder
11:53:06  <Stablean> <Mark> look !here though
11:53:10  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I see
11:53:16  <Stablean> <Mark> weird
11:53:19  <Stablean> <V453000> indeed
11:53:33  <Stablean> <V453000> I think making arrows at your termini makes that disappear
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11:53:44  <Stablean> <V453000> but not sure
11:53:58  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, to eliminate that problem you can just make a trap for trains and catch them on their path
11:54:04  <Stablean> <V453000> instead of giving them order to deopt
11:54:06  <Stablean> <V453000> depot
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11:54:56  <Stablean> <V453000> like this
11:55:07  <Stablean> <V453000> they catch themselves
11:55:13  <Stablean> <Mark> suppose
11:55:15  <Stablean> <Mark> still weird
11:55:23  <Stablean> <V453000> yes yes
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11:56:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> `
11:56:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V
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11:56:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> before you run off
11:56:42  <Stablean> <V453000> oh Sylf does refit stuff :)
11:56:48  <Stablean> <V453000> yes?
11:56:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I thnk the duck if you wanted it to be 1/256, the 2nd block would have to be 1:2
11:57:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well basically is
11:57:17  <Stablean> <V453000> there is 50% chance.
11:57:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> alright,  idont know how it does the math
11:57:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh
11:57:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> excellent
11:57:33  <Stablean> <V453000> 1 option is to have some glass or some other cargo, 1 option is to have duck
11:57:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep
11:57:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> got it
11:57:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =D
11:57:56  <Stablean> <V453000> depends if you take 1:1 as 100% or 50% :)
11:58:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well , usually it means 100%
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11:58:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> except when you're nuts
11:58:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ;)
11:58:26  <Stablean> <V453000> xd
12:02:21  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf I dont know what to draw
12:02:39  <Stablean> <V453000> too lazy to draw wagons
12:02:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> redraw zombue apocalpyse
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12:03:09  <Stablean> <V453000> I actually like that one
12:03:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> theres 2 that i feel are too similar
12:03:36  <Stablean> <V453000> ah that
12:03:42  <Stablean> <V453000> sure they are absolutely the same
12:03:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, just change colors on one of them =P
12:04:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> put flames on the side of the better one
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12:04:33  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
12:05:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ;)
12:08:30  <Stablean> <V453000> can I join Mark? :)
12:08:33  <Stablean> <Mark> yep
12:08:49  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
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12:10:29  <Stablean> <Mark> Big Meech: !wtf
12:11:07  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
12:11:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh sorry mark xD
12:11:32  <Stablean> <Mark> thanks :)
12:11:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
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12:12:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =P
12:12:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you should build a statue in ellerslie
12:13:08  <Stablean> <Mark> i know
12:13:14  <Stablean> <Mark> i cant because of a failed bribe :P
12:13:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
12:13:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aww
12:13:19  <Stablean> <Mark> i will soon
12:13:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> again?!
12:13:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> cb fails at bribery
12:13:52  <Stablean> <Mark> recovered from bribe
12:17:22  <BigMooch> you should bribe more
12:17:33  <Stablean> <Mark> why :P
12:17:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> its big fun
12:17:55  <Stablean> <V453000> makes Big Meech feel less guilty when he does
12:20:10  <Stablean> <Jake> V? Is it intended that empty flat wagons sometimes have a container on them?
12:20:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> glitch was fixed earlier yesterday
12:20:22  <Stablean> <Jake> Like on NSN train 26
12:20:25  <Stablean> <V453000> no :) I horribly miscounted my empty wagon sprite rows
12:20:31  <Stablean> <Mark> sure empty containers
12:20:31  <Stablean> <Mark> oh
12:20:31  <Stablean> <V453000> it is fixed already, thanks for reporting though
12:20:41  <Stablean> <V453000> it is empty livestock wagon
12:20:49  <Stablean> <Jake> Actually I think it's a nice touch
12:20:49  <Stablean> <Mark> oh
12:21:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats the broken merchandice being returned xD
12:21:11  <Stablean> <V453000> some various looks of empty wagons in future: yes, but "properly" :p
12:21:37  <Stablean> <Jake> I love the attention to detail in the set.
12:21:49  <Stablean> <V453000> which details for example? :)
12:22:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like the detail that V made it
12:22:14  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
12:22:16  <Stablean> <Jake> Different wagon styles and liveries, cargo variation
12:22:22  <Stablean> <V453000> ah, sure :)
12:22:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I like when every cargo is visible in the wagons
12:22:44  <Stablean> <V453000> so as a result I for example dont have any real boxcars
12:22:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we need another alpine game to test the paper wagons
12:23:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and or a tropical game also
12:23:16  <Stablean> <Jake> Or get opengfx+ industries
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12:28:28  <Stablean> <Jake> Here's another bug:
12:28:39  <Stablean> <Jake>  work on my ne
12:28:53  <Stablean> <Jake> Livery override doesn't work on my new diesel power trains
12:29:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah they have the passenger wagon (diesel) colour
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12:29:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I havent yet tried to change that :)
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12:30:17  <Stablean> <V453000> guess I have to add the property that the wagons are MU too
12:31:18  <Stablean> <Mark> oh someone tried a ferry :D
12:31:26  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
12:31:32  <Stablean> <V453000> two guys actually
12:31:42  <Stablean> <Mark> hehe
12:31:52  <Stablean> <Mark> i think i'll reduce ship cost next game
12:31:58  <Stablean> <V453000> :/
12:32:12  <Stablean> <Mark> might actually allow like 5
12:32:18  <Stablean> <Mark> so we can service some oil rigs
12:32:21  <Stablean> <Jake> That seems more reasonable
12:32:31  <Stablean> <Skom> i had 5 trains stucked all night u.u'
12:32:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you did
12:32:45  <Stablean> <Speedy> yeah, so much water and no ships at all sucks
12:32:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good news i made a sign for you
12:32:49  <Stablean> <V453000> I just disable oil rigs and FIRS marine industries usually have limit to be close to land
12:33:05  <Stablean> <Speedy> Planes would be great too.
12:33:11  <Stablean> <Mark> nah
12:33:11  <Stablean> <V453000> ...
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12:33:26  <Stablean> <Skom> thanks! still have won lots of money ^^
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12:45:26  <Stablean> <Skom> i can't use  " diesel power" engine with coal vagons??
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12:45:32  <Stablean> <V453000> no
12:45:35  <Stablean> <Skom> :(
12:45:38  <Stablean> <V453000> only passengers
12:45:42  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
12:45:43  <Stablean> <Jake> No, diesel power is express passenger only
12:45:44  <Stablean> <V453000> or mail etc ofc
12:52:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> may i join Mark ?
12:52:16  <Stablean> <Mark> alright then
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12:53:08  <Stablean> <V453000> rule 1: dont you dare to autoreplace steamers :p
12:53:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
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12:53:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =P
12:54:01  <Stablean> <nicfer> whom can I join?
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12:59:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> nicfer: You can join me.
12:59:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello new member ;)
12:59:13  <Stablean> <Mazur> Oh, you already have.
12:59:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> Hi, Beach.
12:59:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> <-- beachiest
12:59:47  <Stablean> <Mark> objections to increasing station spread?
12:59:52  <Stablean> <V453000> n
13:00:02  <Mark> !rcon set station_spread
13:00:07  <Mark> !rcon set max_station_spread
13:00:07  <Stablean> Mark: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '10' (min: 4, max: 64)
13:00:09  <Mark> !rcon set max_station_spread 15
13:00:09  <Stablean> Mark: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting.
13:00:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> Tremendously.  Incessanrtly.  Fundamentally.  Furiously.
13:00:20  <Mark> thefuck?
13:00:21  <Mark> !rcon set max_station_spread 15
13:00:21  <Stablean> Mark: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting.
13:00:25  <Mark> !rcon set max_station_spread
13:00:25  <Stablean> Mark: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting.
13:00:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> tiff ?
13:00:32  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread
13:00:32  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '10' (min: 4, max: 64)
13:00:43  <Mark> !rcon set station_spread 15
13:00:43  <Mark> oh
13:00:46  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 15
13:00:55  <Stablean> <Mark> cool
13:01:14  <Stablean> <Mark> all oil wells in the map have died except for the one that's in the way of my main station
13:01:24  * Mazur is all for allowing a little spread, and so does his waistline.
13:01:26  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
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13:02:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol, berkel in the way of the one line
13:04:32  <Stablean> <nicfer> 'Crowsnest Pass' - second funniest city name on this map
13:05:18  <Stablean> <Mark> funniest would be Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump
13:05:28  <Stablean> <nicfer> yup
13:05:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> totally
13:05:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> must be an indian name xD
13:05:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ok
13:06:24  <Stablean> <Niko> have we already had welsh names ?
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13:08:21  <Stablean> <Niko> I remember station Llanfairpwllgwyngyligogoch or something like that from my travels
13:08:37  <Stablean> <V453000> icelandic town names are great too
13:11:14  <Stablean> <V453000> Citizens celebrate! Campbelltown local authority has won the award of Douchebags ofthe year!
13:11:25  <Stablean> <Mark> D:
13:11:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> factory gone ;)
13:11:45  <Stablean> <V453000> second dead factory there :)
13:15:32  <Stablean> <Skom> cant build path here owned by jake transport? :(
13:15:42  <Stablean> <Jake> Where?
13:15:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ask jake to move
13:16:04  <Stablean> <Skom> near Headsmashedinbuffalo (lol)
13:16:25  <Stablean> <Jake> Oh I see
13:16:25  <Stablean> <Mark> Jake owns that tiel
13:16:29  <Stablean> <Mark> tile
13:16:32  <Stablean> <Niko> lol (the name)
13:16:40  <Stablean> <Mark> you cant build on the same tile
13:16:54  <Stablean> <Mark> also, please build a bridge over that road
13:17:00  <Stablean> <Skom> ok
13:17:02  <Stablean> <Mark> or even better, go around the town
13:17:13  <Stablean> <Jake> Done :)
13:17:23  <Stablean> <Skom> thank you!!
13:17:39  <Stablean> <Skom> no way i can go around this town its so narrow
13:17:53  <Stablean> <Mark> sure you can
13:18:03  <Stablean> <Mark> just go south of Southgate
13:18:30  <Stablean> <Skom> well, problem fixed, the iron ore has closed....
13:18:42  <Stablean> <Skom> eurfhoeirubfheoirfherf!!&&$%
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13:21:06  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi all
13:21:21  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
13:21:39  <Stablean> <Firestar> mark you could check miquelon lake
13:21:54  <Stablean> <Mark> :)
13:22:00  <Stablean> <Firestar> :)
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13:27:47  <Stablean> <Skom> well, i have the worst junction ever paintearth (again, lol name)
13:28:21  <Stablean> <Jake> That's why you shouldn't mix path signals with regular signals
13:28:33  <Stablean> <Mark> no problem with that
13:28:40  <Stablean> <Mark> as long as you know what you're doing anyway
13:29:15  <Stablean> <Mark> turn train 13 around
13:29:35  <Stablean> <Skom> thanks
13:29:40  <Stablean> <Mark> remove those 2-ways
13:30:03  <Stablean> <Mark> 90 degree turns are disabled
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13:36:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry, had to get the phone
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13:38:18  <Stablean> <Skom> wtf was i drunk yesterday?? what a messy line!
13:38:40  <Stablean> <Mark> i'd say you're still drunk :D
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13:39:13  <Stablean> <Skom> if you are judging my building, i hope its that XD
13:52:20  <Stablean> <Skom> hey anyone whos bored can take a look at Stettler station and tell me if it will work? i always fail with signals...
13:52:54  <Stablean> <Jake> No, that will jam
13:53:16  <Stablean> <Skom> why? the exits?
13:53:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> skom you need to use the correct signals also
13:53:21  <Stablean> <Jake> Use path signals preferably,
13:53:44  <Stablean> <Skom> i usually do but i wanted to make a "waiting dock" u know
13:54:30  <Stablean> <Skom> now?
13:55:37  <Stablean> <Mazur> Path signals are prone to bugs, still.
13:56:00  <Stablean> <Mark> copy that if you really want a waiting bay
13:56:05  <Stablean> <Mark> dunno why you'd want that though
13:56:32  <Stablean> <Mazur> In general, you are better off with block signals, unless you have a specific  problem which requires a PBS.
13:56:38  <Stablean> <Mark> exactly
13:56:57  <Stablean> <Skom> also the double exit was a stupid idea i think
13:57:04  <Stablean> <Mark> yea thats pointless
13:57:10  <Stablean> <Teckers> whats teh problem with path signals?
13:57:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you shouldnt need a waiting dock
13:57:20  <Stablean> <V453000> Simply put: if you want a simple solution, use PBS. If you want to learn how to build well, use pre-signals.
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13:57:39  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah right
13:57:42  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok
13:57:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if you want to be hardcore, use no signals
13:57:50  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
13:58:00  <Stablean> <Mark> something simple as that would do you in your case
13:58:00  <Stablean> <Mazur> lol.
13:58:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'm hardcore, lots of the track i added today had no signals
13:58:32  <Stablean> <Skom> the thing is, ive done nice big stations with waiting docks and all that stuff but always ro-ro, cause they are simple... i have problems with the other kind...
13:58:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> look around the map at other companies and copy those ;)
13:59:01  <Stablean> <Mazur> Something like a timetable ina cirlce line might work without any signals, Meech.  Not willing to try it, though.
13:59:03  <Stablean> <Jake> Stettler Velley is the "basic terminus"
13:59:30  <Stablean> <Teckers> i wouldnt copy mine ;P
13:59:48  <Stablean> <Skom> lol its easy top copy cause its near mines xd
13:59:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> bitches know i be timetabled
14:00:28  <Stablean> <Teckers> dont ! haha they will work but probably not 'correct'
14:02:55  <Stablean> <Skom> sorry for being so annoying, but now its ok?
14:03:05  <Stablean> <Mark> no
14:03:31  <Stablean> <Mark> just do it like that
14:03:35  <Stablean> <Mark> nothing more than that
14:03:37  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah
14:03:40  <Stablean> <Skom> well im about to cry... the problem is that the presignal will be green cause of the exit path signal?
14:03:46  <Stablean> <Skom> okok
14:04:12  <Stablean> <V453000> presignals would be like this
14:04:40  <Stablean> <Skom> oh man thank you
14:04:50  <Stablean> <Mark> either one will work
14:04:52  <Stablean> <Maxim> Hiya all!
14:04:55  <Stablean> <Mark> just dont combine them
14:05:01  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
14:05:11  <Stablean> <Jake> I don't see how presignals have any advantage in that situation
14:05:17  <Stablean> <Mark> they dont
14:05:19  <Stablean> <Skom> practising
14:05:35  <Stablean> <V453000> they dont, but if you understand pre-signals and use them, you are likely to get better in building
14:05:43  <Stablean> <Skom> thats it
14:05:54  <Stablean> <Jake> I sometimes use pre signals
14:05:56  <Stablean> <Mark> make the twoways exit signals
14:06:18  <Stablean> <Mark> ctrl+click twice...
14:06:25  <Stablean> <Jake> usually in situations where a track needs priority over another
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14:06:47  <Stablean> <Jake> That will work:)
14:06:57  <Stablean> <Skom> finally.. thank you guys really!
14:07:07  <Stablean> <Mark> in proper high capacity network you'll want to use presignals and path signal only in special cases
14:07:37  <Stablean> <Jake> I prefer more realistic networks
14:07:37  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ilke me, I'm a special case.
14:07:40  <Stablean> <Jake> as you can see
14:07:43  <Stablean> <V453000> we noticed :p
14:07:49  <Stablean> <Mazur> Realistic is a dirty word.
14:07:57  <Stablean> <Mark> i prefer high capacity networks that take skill to build :P
14:08:04  <Stablean> <V453000> ^
14:08:06  <Stablean> <Mark> ottd has nothing to do with realism anyway
14:08:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> If you want realistic, climb down from behind your computer and go out into the great big wide world.
14:08:26  <Stablean> <Skom> lol
14:08:36  <Stablean> <Jake> I like the challenge of building efficient networks in tight spaces
14:09:02  <Stablean> <V453000> any space becomes tight if you have 2000 trains in it :p
14:09:24  <Stablean> <Mazur> If you have the basic skills and read enough of hte Wiki, you should come to, there's pelnty of that kind of challenge.
14:09:58  <Stablean> <Jake> A great thing about this game are the many ways ot play it ;)
14:10:10  <Stablean> <Teckers> all depends what your goals ae for building :)
14:10:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes.  Like a horse and buggy game.
14:10:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> With balloons for long distance.
14:10:43  <Stablean> <Teckers> cool
14:10:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> And rowing boats for ferries.
14:11:11  <Stablean> <Mazur> You'd have to make  a GRF for hte last one, though.
14:11:29  <Stablean> <V453000> hm my new intercity trains look ugly when crashed ... is that a problem?
14:11:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> town transport could be walking
14:12:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> I never inspect wreckages, nothing to learn from them here.
14:12:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> Only to copy the trains.
14:12:30  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
14:13:28  <Stablean> *** Teckers has left the game (desync error)
14:13:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
14:13:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> desynched and fatality
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14:14:00  <Stablean> <Teckers> oops!
14:14:18  <Stablean> <V453000> yey we have a new tanker ship for testing
14:14:28  <Stablean> <Mark> imma test
14:14:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no
14:14:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> me first
14:15:33  <Stablean> <Teckers> what causes a de-sync?
14:16:51  <Stablean> <V453000> Jake dont you happen to know how to code that one train could refit to the same cargo twice but use different spriteset in each case? Like passengers (blue livery) and passengers (rainbow livery)?
14:17:07  <Stablean> <V453000> in NML
14:17:13  <Stablean> <Jake> Yes
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14:17:51  <Stablean> <Jake> Set the cargo as 1 passenger, then use a callback to set it to 0 passengers in every case (IIRC)
14:18:05  <Stablean> <Jake> I posted the code in a thread somewhere
14:18:51  <Stablean> <V453000> sounds weird :D
14:19:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I know that the capacity works really strange, for double headed trains I just set capacity to 20, callback to 20 and they combined to 40 xD
14:19:51  <Stablean> <Jake> Wait, did you want zero capacity for the refittable train?
14:19:57  <Stablean> <Jake> `
14:20:19  <Stablean> <V453000> no, normal capacity
14:20:34  <Stablean> <V453000> I want to be able to choose the colour it has through refits
14:20:40  <Stablean> <V453000> like japan set does pretty much
14:20:50  <Stablean> <V453000> capacity stays the same
14:21:05  <Stablean> <V453000> I change the capacity by callbacks already
14:21:11  <Stablean> <Jake> Then it's easy, but I haven't done it in a while so I ned to check
14:21:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I havent found it in the spec wiki so I rather ask :)
14:25:52  <Stablean> <Jake> Citizens celebrate! First train arrives at Paintearth!
14:26:18  <Stablean> <Skom> lol heavy line XD
14:26:54  <Stablean> <Skom> whats best train for curvy, coal, flat way?
14:27:16  <Stablean> <Skom> (i think ill be kicked for asking too much sorry xd)
14:27:24  <Stablean> <V453000> just feel free to ask
14:27:30  <Stablean> <Jake> No, glad to help :)
14:27:40  <Stablean> <Jake> Is it electrified?
14:27:47  <Stablean> <Skom> nope but i can electrify it
14:27:55  <Stablean> <Skom> its short
14:28:21  <Stablean> <Jake> Driving Darkness seems to be what you're looking for
14:28:31  <Stablean> <Skom> nice thank you!
14:28:34  <Stablean> <Jake> Or perhaps Thunder Kiss
14:29:04  <Stablean> <Skom> those names are ridicously hardcore XD
14:29:14  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
14:29:17  <Stablean> <Jake> I know :)
14:29:35  <Stablean> <Mark> all from the dark depths of v's brain
14:29:37  <Stablean> <V453000> the author of the set probably has some mental problems
14:29:44  <Stablean> <Mark> without a doubt
14:30:07  <Mazur> He should have, I have worked hard to achieve that beyond a doubt.
14:30:18  <Stablean> <Skom> he is working free so i'll say yes lol
14:30:25  <Stablean> <Skom> for free*
14:30:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wait, so who got the paypal money i sent to download ottd?
14:31:03  <Stablean> <Skom> megauploads fat guy?
14:31:13  <Stablean> <Maxim> lol
14:31:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh yeah, Kim Dotcom xD
14:31:32  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has changed his/her name to Meech_Dotcom
14:31:37  <Stablean> <Skom> lol
14:31:39  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
14:31:53  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> brb, gonna take a megaunload in the toilet
14:32:00  <Stablean> <Skom> XDXD
14:32:02  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
14:33:16  <Stablean> <Skom> is there an eficient  "proportion" between farms and iron mines to conect to a factory?
14:33:42  <Stablean> <Jake> No, factories produce goods out of whatever they get
14:33:49  <Stablean> <Skom> yes? cool!
14:34:05  <Stablean> <Jake> You can send only steel to a factory and it will produce as much as you put in
14:34:28  <Stablean> <Skom> perfect thanks!
14:34:42  <Stablean> <V453000> up to a limit of 27450 :p
14:34:52  <Stablean> <Skom> also, wabamun south-west looks reaaaaly nice
14:36:23  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> what happens after 27450
14:36:29  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> divide by zero?
14:37:20  <Stablean> <V453000> no you just dont get more goods out of it
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14:38:10  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> hmm
14:38:28  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> i dont think trains are unloading at campbelltown valley ?
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14:38:48  <Stablean> <V453000> the station doesnt accept stuff :)
14:38:50  <Stablean> <Mark> would explain negative profits at Ellerslie
14:38:56  <Stablean> <Mark> or?
14:38:59  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> some are coming in full
14:39:09  <Stablean> <Jake> It's late and I ned sleep. Goodnight everyone :)
14:39:11  <Stablean> <Hospitaller> V453000 hello
14:39:13  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> trail 1010
14:39:15  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> 101
14:39:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hello there
14:39:17  <Stablean> <Mark> goodnight
14:39:19  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> ok thats unloading
14:39:46  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> aaah, working now I think ?
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14:39:56  <Stablean> <V453000> can I borrow that HQ? :D
14:40:06  <Stablean> <Mark> no i need it :D
14:40:12  <Stablean> <Mark> wont accept pax without
14:40:28  <Stablean> <Mark> get an oil refinery
14:40:34  <Stablean> <V453000> steel mill
14:40:47  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck yeah
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14:41:00  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> bb
14:41:19  <Stablean> <V453000> will it produce steel? :DD
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14:43:20  <Stablean> <Skom> whats the maximum landscaping permited there? i mean, flating 10x10 is ok?
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14:43:34  <Stablean> <Mark> if you got the money for it
14:43:53  <Stablean> <Skom> i did, nearly 2M ....
14:44:12  <Stablean> <Mark> just dont level land you dont need
14:44:21  <Stablean> <Mark> i tf'd a shitload at Ellerslie
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14:55:01  <Stablean> <Skom> what you guys do if you want to improve, for example, a junction, without stoping all the trains?
14:55:23  <Stablean> <Mark> rebuild small parts and connect when ready
14:55:33  <Stablean> <Mark> CLOVERLEAF ALERT
14:55:47  <Stablean> <Skom> what?
14:55:51  <Stablean> <Mark> AAAAAH
14:56:01  <Stablean> <V453000> depends what kind of improvements, you can stop trains and rebuild it completely, you can edit it by small pieces without stopping trains, you can build a different juction elsewhere nearby and connect it afterwards
14:56:07  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :) holy shit
14:56:15  <Stablean> <Skom> thats what i was doing xd
14:56:22  <Stablean> <Skom> is it ok?
14:56:25  <Stablean> <V453000> the one and only cloverleaf
14:56:39  <Stablean> <Skom> whats the problem with it xd?
14:56:49  <Stablean> <Mark> GET IT AWAY FROM ME
14:56:55  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
14:56:55  <Stablean> <Mark> OH THE HORROR
14:56:58  <Stablean> <Mark> AAAAAH
14:57:00  <Stablean> <Skom> but why is it so wrong?!?!?
14:57:07  <Stablean> <V453000> it is the worst type of junction you can make
14:57:09  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> wtf xD
14:57:15  <Stablean> <V453000> has about every mistake possible
14:57:25  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> dont listen to them
14:57:28  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> cloverleafts are the best
14:57:38  <Stablean> <Skom> well so recomend me a better one! i was trying it ive never tried it!
14:57:44  <Stablean> <Mark> anything
14:57:46  <Stablean> <Skom> ¬¬
14:57:49  <Stablean> <Mark> no junction at all would work better :D
14:58:11  <Stablean> <Mark> make 2 3-way junctions
14:58:15  <Stablean> <Mark> for example
14:58:20  <Stablean> <Mark> or just make a pbs level crossing
14:58:26  <Stablean> <Mark> you got hardly any traffic anyway
14:58:37  <Stablean> <Mark> making a proper 4-way is quite complicated
14:58:52  <Stablean> <Skom> well the point was to be able to put more trains
14:59:06  <Stablean> <Skom> like doubling all the trains xd
14:59:12  <Stablean> <Mark> add more trains first and improve when it goes wrong somewhere
14:59:54  <Stablean> <Skom> well ok, but now i lost my money TT
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15:00:19  <Stablean> <Skom> thank you!!
15:00:22  <Stablean> <Mark> np
15:00:28  <Stablean> <Mark> use it wisely :P
15:00:31  <Stablean> <Mark> DONT BUILD CLOVERLEAFS
15:00:42  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
15:00:49  <Stablean> <Skom> im bombing it
15:00:59  <Stablean> <Mark> good :)
15:01:14  <Stablean> <Mark> first thing you should learn is not to make level crossings
15:01:32  <Stablean> <Skom> level crosings?
15:01:39  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah
15:01:41  <Stablean> <Skom> oh! a lesson is rising xd
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15:01:52  <Stablean> <Mark> as in, trains going in different directions crossing each other
15:02:19  <Stablean> <Teckers> cloverleaves banned?
15:02:21  <Stablean> <Mark> thats a 3-way...
15:02:36  <Stablean> <Mark> cloverleafs are the source of all evil
15:02:51  <Stablean> <Skom> oooh ok, its like that but cool
15:02:59  <Stablean> <Skom> i mean, well built xd
15:03:01  <Stablean> <Teckers> well yeah i though you lot liked them?
15:03:03  <Stablean> <Teckers> :P
15:03:29  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> lol
15:03:31  <Stablean> <Mark> cloverleafs can be modified into proper junctions but then they're not cloverleafs anymore
15:03:53  <Stablean> <Skom> lol two steps: 1.destroy it another one?
15:03:59  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> yes
15:04:02  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> in that order
15:04:08  <Stablean> <Skom> xdxd
15:04:30  <Stablean> <Mark> this junction is better than that cloverleaf in every single way
15:04:41  <Stablean> <Skom> only its harder to build xd
15:04:52  <Stablean> <Mark> hardly
15:05:00  <Stablean> <Mark> well, slightly
15:05:02  <Stablean> <Mark> i suppose
15:05:04  <Stablean> <Skom> hardly* thanks
15:05:18  <Stablean> <Mark> just add more trains :P
15:05:26  <Stablean> <Mark> soon as something goes wrong i'll show you how to fix it
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15:06:41  <Stablean> <Mark> if you really want to use path signals, use one-way ones
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15:09:36  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> who was working on cambelltown valley, they forgot track?
15:09:54  <Stablean> <Mark> probably V
15:09:56  <Stablean> <Mark> he's a noob
15:09:58  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> lmao
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15:14:22  <Stablean> <Skom> well i've added 10 trains and they dont get fully stucked, but i have several trafic jams
15:14:48  <Stablean> <Mark> change all those twoway path signals to one-way ones
15:14:51  <Stablean> <Mark> or, even better, normal signals
15:15:13  <Stablean> <Mark> can i join your company?
15:15:15  <Stablean> <Mark> makes it easier to show stuff
15:15:17  <Stablean> <Skom> yes please
15:15:39  <Stablean> <Mark> whats yourpw
15:15:53  <Stablean> <Skom> 1234
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15:16:55  <Stablean> <Skom> i know that bearspaw factory station is a shit i didnt even tried to make it better XD
15:17:03  <Stablean> <Skom> here i am
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15:17:59  <Stablean> <Skom> those are normal one way route signals?
15:18:05  <Stablean> <Skom> cool
15:18:13  <Stablean> <Skom> he exit is ok right?
15:18:19  <Stablean> <Mark> yep
15:18:34  <Stablean> <Mark> just use normal signals
15:18:36  <Stablean> <Mark> like that
15:18:46  <Stablean> <Mark> with signal distance 2
15:19:08  <Stablean> <Skom> ookey
15:19:32  <Stablean> <Mark> you'll probably want to change to right-hand drive
15:19:38  <Stablean> <Mark> as thats what 95% of people use
15:20:02  <Stablean> <Skom> yes well not in this network its a lot of work but next time ill do
15:20:12  <Stablean> <Mark> not a lot of work at all :P
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15:21:11  <Stablean> <Skom> wtf how are you so fast?
15:21:21  <Stablean> <Mark> hehe
15:21:21  <Stablean> <Mark> hotkeys
15:21:24  <Stablean> <Mark> and way too much practise
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15:21:51  <Stablean> <Skom> lol is there anyway to put signals in curves and stuff like that faster?
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15:21:57  <Stablean> <Mark> fuck
15:21:59  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> is there a place that shows all the hotkeys?
15:21:59  <Stablean> <Mark> oops
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15:22:25  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> i need a cheat sheet with the hotkeys on it =P
15:22:27  <Stablean> <Mark> Skom: place one signal and drag it
15:22:33  <Stablean> <Mark> hold ctrl while draggin it
15:22:35  <Stablean> <Skom> yes i know that
15:22:41  <Stablean> <Teckers> why do i get de-sync every time a train crashes?
15:22:53  <Stablean> <Mark> if you hold ctrl it'll drag through curves
15:23:00  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> sounds like a personal problem xD
15:23:02  <Stablean> <Mark> Meech_Dotcom: there's a hotkeys.cfg somewhere
15:23:02  <V453000> planetmaker: desync ^
15:23:04  <Stablean> <Mark> my docs/ottd
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15:23:34  <Stablean> <Mark> you dont need accesible depots without breakdowns
15:23:45  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> oh, ty Mark
15:25:12  <Stablean> <Teckers> can someone explain de-syncs to me? i dont understand the causes?
15:25:54  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> desync is when you need a plumber, and he stops by, removes the broken one, and puts in a new one =D
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15:26:06  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
15:26:44  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah well guess thats the best i am gonna get :)
15:26:54  <Stablean> <V453000> who knows
15:27:05  <Stablean> <V453000> you can try to reproduce it
15:27:12  <Stablean> <V453000> would be great if you succeed in that
15:27:22  <Stablean> <Teckers> was after train crashes
15:27:26  <Stablean> <Teckers> but...
15:28:00  <Stablean> <Teckers> i'm on a patched client so will that be the cause?
15:28:10  <Stablean> <V453000> no clue, it is possible I guess
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15:28:32  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok n/m just noone crash more trains plese :D
15:31:42  <Stablean> <Skom> ill try to expand now lets see if i dont make a mess!
15:32:12  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok gonna crash 2 trains together see if that causes desync again...
15:32:18  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> lol
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15:32:26  <Stablean> <Mark> wtf
15:32:38  <Mark> V453000, planetmaker ^
15:32:41  <Mark> reproduceable
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15:32:50  <Stablean> <Teckers> yep that did it
15:32:55  <V453000> if it is his patched client then there is not much to do with it
15:33:02  <Mark> true
15:33:33  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> im going to make a company just to crash trains all day so teckers gets mad =P
15:33:35  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah i need to see if its same on other servers
15:33:41  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
15:34:03  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> what about crashing an rv into a train?
15:34:05  <Stablean> <Teckers> it could be a  big problem..
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15:34:49  <Stablean> <Teckers> i'm on n-ice admin client so i will have to report bug if its same on other servers...
15:34:51  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> i parked an rv on your track, teckers
15:34:55  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok
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15:35:34  <Stablean> <V453000> admin client ? :D
15:35:34  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok...
15:35:44  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> newp
15:35:46  <Stablean> <Teckers> that ewas ok
15:35:55  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> not for the driver
15:35:57  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
15:36:19  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> youd think a loaded oil tanker would cause a bigger wreck
15:36:34  <Stablean> <Teckers> well didnt kick me so i'm happy
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15:36:54  <Stablean> <Teckers> ok i better chat to someone about this...
15:37:04  <Stablean> <Teckers> cya laters
15:37:07  <Stablean> <Mark> cya
15:37:08  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> later
15:37:11  <Stablean> <V453000> byez
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15:37:24  <Stablean> <Skom> by mark and thanks again!
15:37:34  <Stablean> <Skom> ouch youre not leaving
15:37:36  <Stablean> <Mark> im not going
15:37:38  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
15:37:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I can make him!
15:37:48  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> lol
15:37:50  <Stablean> <Mark> shut up you
15:37:53  <Stablean> <Mark> nuttah
15:37:58  <Stablean> <V453000> xD
15:38:12  <Stablean> <V453000> you .. youu... :D
15:38:27  <Stablean> <Mark> what? :D
15:38:49  <Stablean> <V453000> ok, rule n1 of company colour drawing: Whenever you feel like your sprites look good, put orange as company colour and see how shitty it is
15:39:24  <Stablean> <Mark> you should try orange first
15:39:30  <Stablean> <Mark> wannabe #cooper
15:39:40  <Stablean> <V453000> no, orange is just wrong
15:39:43  <Stablean> <Mark> D:
15:40:01  <Stablean> <V453000> impossible to make nice orange trains
15:40:15  <Stablean> <Mark> darker colours are much nicer
15:40:27  <Stablean> <Mark> mauve, dark green, brown
15:40:33  <Stablean> <V453000> orange just doesnt have dark shades
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15:44:53  <Stablean> <Skom> mmm that will be cool
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15:48:31  <Mazur> V453000, when you go from orange to darker shades, you come to brown.
15:48:47  <V453000> yes
15:48:55  <V453000> yellow too
15:48:57  <Mazur> So you might use those.
15:48:57  <V453000> but still
15:49:11  <V453000> nah there isnt the problem
15:49:31  <V453000> you just draw something very dark in company colour and it still appears as light in orange
15:49:39  <V453000> orange just doesnt recolour to any brown etc
15:50:30  <Mazur> Not to ahy brown, but browns with the same red/green percentages.
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15:53:24  <Mazur> One could easily make an xpm or something, 256 high with all the shades of the same ratio.
15:53:36  <Mazur> 256 pixels high.
15:53:44  <Mazur> Or 512, to amke it easier.
15:53:46  <Mazur> make
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15:58:05  <Stablean> <Skom> is there anyway to change a station in the route of multiple trains to another at the same time?
15:58:19  <Stablean> <Mark> you have to use shared orders
15:58:25  <Stablean> <Mark> hold ctrl while copying orders
15:58:35  <Stablean> <Skom> ok
15:58:41  <Stablean> <Mark> if you then change orders, all trains it shares orders with will change also
15:58:43  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> easier to clone train
15:58:50  <Stablean> <Meech_Dotcom> hold control when cloning
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16:30:36  <Stablean> <Teckers> thats better :)
16:30:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
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16:34:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> * sees if Teckers can really stay ;)
16:34:12  <Stablean> <Teckers> haha :)
16:34:23  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah its fixed now
16:34:29  <Stablean> <Teckers> we think..
16:35:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we'll see
16:35:47  <Stablean> <Teckers> :P
16:35:57  <Stablean> <Teckers> got a good test lined up?
16:36:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yup, at !here
16:36:37  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah i see what you are up to
16:36:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> let me know when youre there
16:36:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh, youre there =D
16:36:59  <Stablean> <Teckers> yep
16:37:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> then ill start a train
16:37:07  <Stablean> <Teckers> .....
16:37:13  <Stablean> <Teckers> hhaha
16:37:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> fail
16:37:47  <Stablean> <Teckers> they are only hard to crash when you want to crash them...
16:38:21  <Stablean> <Teckers> 4 way syncronised crash?
16:38:27  <Stablean> <Teckers> :D
16:38:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep, i think youre here for good xD
16:38:33  <Stablean> <Teckers> i'm still here
16:39:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well i guess it would be possible to do an 8-way
16:39:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> would be best with loaded pax wagons and 1 full oil tanker train
16:40:28  <Stablean> <Teckers> hmm yeah 8 way would work
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17:14:10  <Stablean> <Mark> 'lo
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17:14:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aih
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17:15:27  <Stablean> <Mark> tempted to replace
17:15:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =O
17:16:21  <Stablean> <Mark> although its really ugly
17:16:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> steam or gtfo =P
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17:57:54  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> HI
17:58:00  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
17:58:23  <Stablean> <Skom> hey mark
17:58:29  <Stablean> <Mark> :)
17:58:43  <Stablean> <Skom> i have a problem
17:58:59  <Stablean> <Skom> ive made 2 junctions, freestyle xd
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17:59:35  <Stablean> <Skom> drayton valley and writing-on-stone
18:01:17  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> Skom:  train 34
18:01:39  <Stablean> <Skom> thanks
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18:28:30  <Stablean> <Berkel> theres a graphic glitch
18:28:36  <Stablean> <Mark> where
18:28:42  <Stablean> <Berkel> with the steel girder bridge
18:29:01  <Stablean> <Berkel> at !here
18:29:16  <Stablean> <Mark> whats wrong
18:29:38  <Stablean> <Berkel> compare ;)
18:29:44  <Stablean> <Mark> its supposed to look like that :P
18:29:50  <Stablean> <Mark> imho its the coolest bridge in the set
18:30:01  <Stablean> <Berkel> just a thick "wire"? :D
18:30:05  <Stablean> <Mark> yep :)
18:30:29  <Stablean> <Berkel> thin concrete ramp and massive wire, lol
18:31:13  <Stablean> <Mark> see !here
18:31:19  <Stablean> <Mark> can you please give us some more room?
18:31:53  <Stablean> <Mark> thanks
18:32:03  <Stablean> <Mark> you should probably avoid crossing people's main stations completely
18:32:21  <Stablean> <Berkel> omg, your town oO
18:32:29  <Stablean> <Berkel> mass PAX / MAIL?
18:32:39  <Stablean> <Mark> sure :)
18:32:57  <Stablean> <Berkel> towns with services = cancer oO
18:33:07  <Stablean> <Mark> ?
18:33:09  <Stablean> <Berkel> grow grow grow, lol
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18:51:56  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
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20:07:02  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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22:19:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
22:19:40  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
22:19:42  <Stablean> <Speedy> hey
22:20:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hows it goin
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22:20:50  <Stablean> <Niko> great
22:20:54  <Stablean> <Niko> hi skom
22:20:54  <Stablean> <Maxim> Hiya! All good :)
22:21:04  <Stablean> <Skom> hi!
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22:22:49  <Stablean> <Mark> evening
22:23:04  <Stablean> <Skom> hey
22:23:19  <Stablean> <Mark> oooh we have mlev
22:23:25  <Stablean> <Skom> everything still works, i cant believe it XD
22:23:35  <Stablean> <Mark> hehe
22:24:09  <Stablean> <Mark> looks like you can take quite a few more trains
22:24:43  <Stablean> <Skom> yep but i have some that are doing nothing, farms produce in a very strange way i think...
22:25:09  <Stablean> <Mark> strange how?
22:25:45  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
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22:25:47  <Stablean> <Skom> lots of grain and only a little livestock
22:25:49  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
22:25:51  <Stablean> <Niko> o/
22:26:11  <Stablean> <V453000> still no doom? :<
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22:28:30  <Stablean> <Mark> no doom.
22:28:45  <Stablean> <Skom> doom?
22:28:51  <Stablean> <Mark> doombringah
22:28:54  <Stablean> <Mark> epic train
22:29:01  <Stablean> <Skom> oh ok xd
22:29:13  <Stablean> <V453000> you build it and the map explodes
22:32:51  <Stablean> <Niko> :O
22:33:18  <Stablean> <V453000> hm?
22:34:41  <Stablean> <Skom> its a good idea to make trains that go like "mine1-powerplant-mine2-powerplant"??
22:36:11  <Stablean> <V453000> no
22:36:17  <Stablean> <Skom> ok xd
22:36:47  <Stablean> <V453000> if you could guarantee that the two mines have the exact same production and you reach the same station ratings at both mines, maybe
22:37:14  <Stablean> <Skom> not by now xd
22:37:16  <Stablean> <Mark> still pointless
22:37:31  <Stablean> <V453000> without a doubt
22:41:29  <Stablean> <Skom> hey maxim are you going to conect this iron mine in the north corner?
22:43:23  <Stablean> <Skom> well i'll assume you wont
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22:48:16  <Stablean> <V453000> Havoc is here! Doom and destruction is imminent
22:48:32  <Stablean> <Mark> muahahahaha
22:49:06  <Stablean> <Havoc> :)
22:49:20  <Stablean> <Havoc> was just coming along
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22:52:15  <Stablean> <V453000> oh aww
22:52:25  <Stablean> <V453000> peaceful mode on
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22:57:26  <Stablean> <V453000> good night
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22:57:38  <Stablean> <Mark> nighty-oh
22:58:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lo
22:59:03  <Stablean> <Maxim> Hiya
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23:00:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi Maxim, Skom, Speedy and Niko
23:00:40  <Stablean> <Skom> hey
23:00:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> how's it going?
23:01:30  <Stablean> <Skom> i have mor loadinge capacity than primary resources xd
23:01:48  <Stablean> <Maxim> Losing money then?
23:01:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not a bad thing if they are waiting at the station
23:02:09  <Stablean> <Skom> nope not losing money but i have lots of waiting trains
23:02:35  <Stablean> <Skom> is it normal that they load so slowly?
23:07:29  <Stablean> <Niko> lol
23:07:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> where are they loading slow?
23:08:02  <Stablean> <Niko> Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump   town name
23:08:12  <Stablean> <Skom> like.. everywhere
23:08:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, thats the best ever Niko
23:08:22  <Stablean> <Mark> they're probably not slow, just low productions
23:08:24  <Stablean> <Niko> :D
23:08:26  <Stablean> <Skom> yeah i have a station here xd
23:08:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sometimes they load slow if the train is too large for the station
23:08:42  <Stablean> <Skom> yes mark, now i see its only in farms
23:09:24  <Stablean> <Skom> iron mines work well, coal mines regular, farms are shit... at least in my actual network xd
23:09:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> farms have 2 stuff they make
23:09:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> livestock and grain / wheat
23:09:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> usually one of htem has a higher output than the other
23:10:06  <Stablean> <Skom> i know
23:10:06  <Stablean> <Niko> some games maps here have more complicated industries
23:10:16  <Stablean> <Skom> like?
23:10:22  <Stablean> <Niko> like cement factories and breweries
23:10:28  <Stablean> <Mark> thats FIRS
23:10:34  <Stablean> <Skom> oooh seems fun
23:10:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> very
23:10:43  <Stablean> <Niko> Skom have to see that
23:10:57  <Stablean> <Skom> lol i still have a lot to see XD
23:10:58  <Stablean> <Mark> might make the next game FIRS
23:10:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> skom, the longer you play on the welcome server here, you will see lots of neat things =)
23:11:05  <Stablean> <Mark> see how NUTS handles it
23:11:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nuts seemed to be ok before , when we tried it
23:11:31  <Stablean> <Skom> great :)
23:12:37  <Stablean> <Skom> just realised i conected two map corners! thats long XD
23:12:53  <Stablean> <Skom> (for me)
23:16:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
23:25:29  <Stablean> <Skom> mglev, monorail... anything i should know before trying? you said before that mglev needs fast lines right?
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23:31:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> magleve doesnt need long curves, just depends on how long the cars are
23:31:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> monorail you can even go shorter
23:32:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> problem with those, are smaller capacity wagons
23:36:41  <Stablean> <Skom> shit!
23:36:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lo
23:36:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> l
23:37:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> actually
23:37:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you can remove the X closest to the station
23:37:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> since you have it furher up
23:37:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> pr
23:37:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> or*
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23:37:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> remove the other one, and keep the other
23:37:55  <Stablean> <Skom> i know, i was doing that when they crushed
23:38:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
23:38:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats why =P
23:38:16  <Stablean> <Skom> i removed the signal.... cause i was building
23:38:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, bad idea
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23:42:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wow
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23:42:35  <Stablean> <Skom> ohhh f*** this
23:42:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> haha
23:42:48  <Stablean> <Skom> want to see some bombing? wait a minute
23:42:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nooo lol
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23:51:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi bambonke
23:51:36  <Stablean> <Bambonke> yo
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23:55:25  <Stablean> <Skom> hey mark you there?
23:55:32  <Stablean> <Mark> yep
23:55:41  <Stablean> <Skom> look at my factory, its more or less ok?
23:56:07  <Stablean> <Skom> trying to do a separate loading station
23:56:07  <Stablean> <Mark> you splitting drop and pickup?
23:56:12  <Stablean> <Mark> yea looks alright
23:56:34  <Stablean> <Mark> although you wouldnt need to join the goods pickup back to the ML
23:56:36  <Stablean> <Skom> great, i crashed 4 trains in the first try XD but now it looks cool
23:56:40  <Stablean> <Mark> its a direct link to town anyway
23:56:50  <Stablean> <Skom> yeah
23:57:00  <Stablean> <Skom> s the only town where i drop goods
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23:57:07  <Stablean> <Skom> its big enough

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