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00:04:22 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:04:22 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 00:51:03 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 01:12:41 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 01:17:03 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 01:18:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 01:19:07 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 01:19:07 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 02:28:12 <Stablean> *** Teckerz joined the game 02:32:33 <Stablean> *** Teckerz has left the game (leaving) 03:05:45 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 03:06:01 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 03:06:01 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 03:13:15 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (processing map took too long) 03:13:15 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (connection lost) 03:13:40 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 03:14:27 <BiG_MeEcH> re-hi 03:14:29 <BiG_MeEcH> !players 03:14:31 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1026 is Phillip, a spectator 03:14:31 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 655 (Pale Green) is pav, in company 10 (pav Transport) 03:14:31 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 929 is Mazur, a spectator 03:14:48 <Stablean> <pav> hi :) 03:15:11 <Stablean> <Phillip> hello 03:15:26 <Stablean> <Phillip> I'm bored again. 03:17:18 <BiG_MeEcH> go blow up some trains 03:17:45 <Stablean> <Phillip> Or do that blade with trains and buses again. 03:22:35 <BiG_MeEcH> nah, thats so 2011 03:32:12 <Stablean> <Phillip> Fine, I'll start a little company then. 03:32:15 <Stablean> *** Phillip has started a new company (#15) 03:40:51 <BiG_MeEcH> yayyyyyyyyy 04:10:23 <Stablean> <Phillip> Can you give me money so I can build and survive? 04:10:49 <Stablean> <pav> no problem, but how to give you money ? 04:11:59 <Stablean> <pav> you are limited to 10 road venicles ... develop trains ... 04:12:19 <Stablean> <Phillip> When you hold on the guy in the menu bar, release the mouse where it says "Client List" and then hold the mouse on the person's name and then press on "give money" and enter the amount you want to do. 04:12:41 <Stablean> <Phillip> I am building a train line. 04:13:12 <Stablean> <pav> k. dont buy any ships or planes .... its incredibly expensive support 04:13:36 <Stablean> <Phillip> I know what to do. I have been here for a few months so I know this game. 04:14:14 <Stablean> <Phillip> thanks 04:14:36 <Stablean> <pav> its this server specifice, not the game as whole ... np :) 04:16:02 <Stablean> <Phillip> Purple made docks and a depot. 04:21:54 <Stablean> <Phillip> see you later 04:21:56 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 04:36:27 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 04:36:40 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:36:40 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 05:13:23 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 05:33:16 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 05:44:07 <Stablean> <Anson> when Dixon is available, he should URGENTLY fix his problems : too many steel pickups are queueing and thus blocking the ore drop ... all trains are stuck 06:31:05 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (leaving) 07:05:05 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 07:05:21 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 07:05:21 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 08:11:53 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 08:12:09 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:12:09 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 08:32:23 <Stablean> *** pav joined the game 08:33:19 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:33:19 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 08:34:05 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:34:05 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 08:36:19 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR joined the game 08:36:41 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach joined the game 08:38:23 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (downloading map took too long) 08:38:23 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 08:39:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:39:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 08:41:36 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 08:41:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:41:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 08:54:18 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 08:54:34 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:54:34 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 08:55:10 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 08:55:26 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:55:26 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 08:58:44 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (leaving) 09:06:41 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 09:09:01 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #12 09:09:55 <Stablean> <V453666> hi 09:09:55 <Stablean> *** V453666 joined the game 09:09:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> morning 09:10:02 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hi V453666 09:10:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> your island is impressive! 09:10:15 <Stablean> <V453666> :) 09:11:05 <Stablean> <V453666> that is what nuts allows me to build 09:11:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> whats special about nuts 09:12:11 <Stablean> <V453666> well in this case maglev trains being a lot less fragile to short curves, and having a bit better acceleration than Lev3 09:12:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> id noticed that 4L trains didnt slow on 3L curves 09:12:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i LIKE IT! 09:13:42 <Stablean> <V453666> it makes the game easier and harder at the same time 09:13:52 <Stablean> <V453666> easier because you can make a lot more things in the same space 09:14:06 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 09:14:08 <Stablean> <V453666> harder because that means you care a lot more about system of the network when you dont have to bother about the layout as much 09:14:08 <Stablean> <V453666> hi 09:15:20 <Stablean> <Anson> i have set up a few trams to clean up blocks of pickup/drops ... they caused Dixon's entire net to be blocked .... 09:15:55 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so you're the man when it comes to refits V 09:16:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pluntford sawmill 09:16:12 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 09:16:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'd like to give it a go 09:16:30 <Stablean> <V453666> sup with that 09:16:41 <Stablean> <V453666> @@ABR11 09:16:42 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/02/16/advanced-building-revue-11-refit-stations/ 09:16:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pluntford was a temporary thing 100 years ago, ignore how crap that station is 09:16:47 <Stablean> <V453666> hf? :) 09:16:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> read it 09:16:56 <Stablean> <V453666> good 09:17:06 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hi, any hope for restart soon ? :) 09:17:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as with full waiting bays a few games ago i'll build then get critique? 09:17:10 <Stablean> <V453666> if you dont know where to start just write down a list what the station needs 09:17:18 <Stablean> <V453666> sure 09:17:36 <Stablean> <V453666> maybe the list first iss a good thing 09:17:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have PSG197 running here too 09:18:24 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> this map doesnt have a huge station spread though 09:19:06 <Stablean> <V453666> 197 is old 09:19:34 <Stablean> <V453666> want to join the irc so I can give you links? 09:19:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes, but useful 09:20:24 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hah, and you said i was a train torturer, i think dixon beats me there :D 09:20:40 <Stablean> <V453666> :d 09:22:58 <Stablean> <V453666> start from the end 09:23:00 <Stablean> <V453666> the drop part 09:23:22 <Stablean> <V453666> lets just build a separate station 09:23:26 <Stablean> <V453666> and then put it to use 09:23:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so just a standard drop 09:24:18 <Stablean> <V453666> more or less 09:24:32 <Stablean> <V453666> now you need tunnels to have stuff above 09:24:46 <Stablean> <V453666> better up 09:25:01 <Stablean> <V453666> to compensate with the landscape around 09:25:09 <Stablean> <V453666> hm 09:25:44 <Stablean> <V453666> now the refit above tunnels 09:25:50 <Stablean> <V453666> first thing is waypoint 09:25:53 <Stablean> <V453666> always add a waypoint before depots 09:26:00 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (general timeout) 09:26:00 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (connection lost) 09:26:27 <Stablean> <V453666> now some depot 09:26:45 <Stablean> <V453666> trains arent too short so probably multiple depots is not a bad idea 09:27:13 <Stablean> <V453666> maybe even the simpliest way this time 09:27:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ooo 09:28:18 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if you do one half, i'll build the other 09:28:28 <Stablean> <V453666> just try to understand it 09:30:26 <Stablean> <Anson> small hint: signs can be deleted by everybody .... including old signs from the old australian company 09:31:04 <Stablean> <Anson> a bug !? .... some track pieces of the old australian company still exist and have owner N/A .... 09:31:22 <Stablean> <V453666> tramtracks? 09:31:44 <Stablean> *** robinho29 joined the game 09:32:23 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, tram tracks and tunnels 09:32:32 <Stablean> *** Robeer joined the game 09:32:41 <Stablean> <Anson> near the sign "adopt me please" 09:33:07 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach joined the game 09:33:08 <Stablean> <V453666> you should know that KrunchyAl :d 09:33:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> tramtracks are like road, they don't dissapear when company goes belly up 09:33:24 <Stablean> <V453666> yes 09:33:27 <Stablean> <V453666> more or less 09:33:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what about that 30% cargo? is that an oppurtunity to spam the near middle end orders? 09:33:51 <Stablean> *** robinho29 has left the game (leaving) 09:33:53 <Stablean> <Anson> but most of them are gone ... only a few remeined 09:34:03 <Stablean> *** Robeer has left the game (leaving) 09:34:09 <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe someone used some dynamite 09:35:15 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, sup, it is near your tracks and stations ... did you use the dynamite ? 09:35:26 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah , were in my way :) 09:36:32 <Stablean> <V453666> so that would be the station 09:36:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> simples :p 09:36:46 <Stablean> <Anson> ok, the rest is gone now too ... used some more dynamite :-) 09:36:52 <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D 09:37:02 <Stablean> <V453666> got a goods drop ready? 09:37:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nah 09:37:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'll go find one, couldnt afford when i set things up before bed last night 09:37:31 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm also deleting the old signs now ... "Adopt me please, signed East Australia Company" makes no sense now 09:37:33 <Stablean> <V453666> Netbridge? 09:37:48 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yeah was halfway thru building that station last night when an oil ref appeared here 09:37:54 <Stablean> <V453666> alright 09:39:29 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hm this makes network much more complex because trains will need entry to primaries from all directions 09:39:39 <Stablean> <V453666> yes 09:39:49 <Stablean> <V453666> not that much complexity 09:39:51 <Stablean> <V453666> juts a few more splits 09:41:36 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 09:41:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:41:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 09:41:56 <Stablean> <V453666> want to set the orders? 09:42:02 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yeah 09:42:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> should probably connect the saw mill end :p 09:43:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh, thats probably easier 09:44:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> train 47 09:44:51 <Stablean> <V453666> no 09:45:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how do make that order 09:45:16 <Stablean> <V453666> in the bottom right there is a dropdown arrow 09:45:19 <Stablean> <V453666> just like the conditional orders 09:45:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ghot it 09:45:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> got it 09:46:11 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm 09:46:30 <Stablean> <V453666> just continue 09:46:36 <Stablean> <V453666> what is after pickup 09:46:36 <Stablean> <V453666> a drop 09:47:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:47:14 <Stablean> <V453666> that is the basic cycle 09:47:15 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:47:15 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 09:47:19 <Stablean> <V453666> now conditions 09:47:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> like if 0 then refit to wood 09:48:00 <Stablean> <V453666> so lets make space for it by another conditional 09:48:26 <Stablean> <V453666> as order 8 09:48:32 <Stablean> <V453666> now behind order 8 we can add anything 09:48:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:49:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:49:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 09:49:04 <Stablean> <V453666> so we add there a waypoint 09:49:14 <Stablean> <V453666> and done 09:49:20 <Stablean> <V453666> if 0 then go to waypoint and then to refit to wood 09:49:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thats pretty sweet 09:49:29 <Stablean> <V453666> now the other thing 09:49:32 <Stablean> <V453666> less than 100% loaded 09:49:41 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:49:48 <Stablean> <V453666> this must be after equal to 0 becuase equal to 0 is involved in the 100% condition 09:49:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:49:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 09:50:01 <Stablean> <V453666> and if it is less that n 100% we want to transfer the goods back 09:50:09 <Stablean> <V453666> so first we need the transfer order 09:50:32 <Stablean> <V453666> because we want both of the transfer and refit orders be done together we just add the transfer in front of the refit 09:50:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ok 09:50:54 <Stablean> <V453666> and now I just add the condition 09:52:20 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali joined the game 09:52:31 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi 09:53:09 <Stablean> <V453666> done :p just replace all trains with this order 09:53:19 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i messed up order 10 09:53:19 <Stablean> <V453666> and just replace the first order with a different pickup 09:53:31 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how do i change the order jumpto number 09:53:53 <Stablean> <V453666> cant 09:53:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh when i add it i click on 14? 09:53:55 <Stablean> <V453666> kill and redo 09:53:59 <Stablean> <V453666> yes 09:54:45 <Stablean> <V453666> omg 09:54:48 <Stablean> <V453666> use nonstop orders 09:54:51 <Stablean> <V453666> always use nonstop orders 09:55:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i blame my reinstall :P 09:56:11 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, nice propgram on #47 :-) ... i did similar a few times and it works nicely ... but i had a problem with PBS and the waypoint 09:56:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> tx for your help again V 09:56:16 <Stablean> <V453666> yw 09:56:54 <Stablean> <Anson> when the train comes to the waypoint, it gets the order to go to a depot, thusselects a specific depot at that time, and the double depot with PBS doesn't work 09:56:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what problems 09:57:06 <Stablean> <V453666> yes but that should work now already 09:57:09 <Stablean> <V453666> it was bugged some time ago 09:57:19 <Stablean> <Anson> the train has to get to the PBS first, then the waypoint 09:57:25 <Stablean> <V453666> if it doesnt, it should be reported again 09:57:40 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (leaving) 09:58:02 <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... i tried only some version(2) ago ... on 1.1.x or at most 1.2.0 09:58:02 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:58:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> this is cool 09:58:17 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:58:17 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 09:58:51 <Stablean> <V453666> I usually never use PBS for the depots either but here when we already did it as a 3 platform depot, a normal one wouldnt suffice 09:58:54 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> presumably you can take it to ridiculous levels 09:59:02 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:59:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:59:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 09:59:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 09:59:53 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm watching the waypoint and PBS ... seems to work now 10:00:01 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:00:01 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:00:57 <Stablean> *** velvet joined the game 10:01:10 <Stablean> *** V453666 has joined company #1 10:01:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:01:33 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:01:33 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:03:42 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:03:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:03:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:04:13 <Stablean> <Anson> was that a bug, or only a feature, that passing a PBS didn't change the order to which depot the train should go ? 10:04:23 <Stablean> <V453666> bug 10:04:38 <Stablean> <V453666> the order should really work like ... first depot you meet, do this 10:05:07 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 10:05:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:05:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:05:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:06:08 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that was the problem ... the trains used to select a depot first, and then wait at the PBS for that specific depot ... 10:06:55 <Stablean> <Anson> but "first depot you meet" is a bit unclear ... the train didn't "meet" a depot when it passes the PBS 10:07:22 <Stablean> <Anson> (i would call "entering the depot" meeting ?!) 10:07:48 <Stablean> <V453666> if it is by this order then it should select a depot anyhow imo 10:07:50 <Stablean> <V453666> it does, but still 10:08:05 <Stablean> <V453666> it works so that if it meets a depot on the way, it does the order in there 10:09:15 <Stablean> <Anson> would that also mean that a single depot near a track might be skipped when the train passes a PBS and another depot is somewhere further down the track ? 10:10:51 <Stablean> <V453666> probably yes 10:11:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:11:15 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:11:15 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:11:19 <Stablean> <Anson> could result in interesting new layouts for service stations/autoreplace, etc 10:11:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:11:47 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:11:47 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:14:07 <Stablean> <Anson> still watching yout superstation ... all trains go to the left half of the drop and thus start filling up the refit-depots 10:15:55 <Stablean> <Anson> probably too many signals directly behind the first split for left and right halves ? 10:16:18 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> too many vehciles in game 10:18:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sendling all left is ok though? 10:18:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so long as when required it sends on right? 10:19:01 <Stablean> <V453666> if all 3 platforms on the left are full it will send them to the right 10:19:03 <Stablean> <Anson> the trains stack up the the refitting depot since there are too many 10:19:13 <Stablean> <V453666> oh wow 10:19:15 <Stablean> <V453666> big flaw :) 10:19:33 <Stablean> <Anson> total of 6 trains waiting in refitting depots 10:19:33 <Stablean> <V453666> well that is why it is good to build stack-proof depots ... which doesnt work with pbs :> 10:20:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh - V built it. i take no responsibility :P 10:20:47 <Stablean> <Anson> when tracks are really crowded, maybe 1 depot per platform would be needed 10:21:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going to send more trains at it 10:21:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> two more pickups are being converted with new trains 10:21:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> primaries i mean 10:21:28 <Stablean> <Anson> but 2 depots work nicely when some trains would also use the right half of the drop when the left drop is not yet filled with a back queue 10:23:33 <Stablean> <Anson> when trains are moving and don't start to stop at the entry, the signal gap could be bigger ??? then the pathfinder (which looks mostly at the first few signals) would better distribute trains to left and right 10:25:09 <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... trains now also going to the right :-) 10:25:19 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> big gap though 10:25:29 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i guess at a split thats not a problem 10:25:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ah and the goods demand is being met now 10:26:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which is good 10:26:24 <Stablean> <Anson> when trains are moving and one goes left and the next goes right, a gap of TL shouldn't hurt ?! 10:26:55 <Stablean> <V453666> it isnt as simple as X depots per X platforms 10:27:06 <Stablean> <V453666> it is about making sure that trains can easier exit the depots than enter 10:27:12 <Stablean> <V453666> which needs some presignal stuff 10:27:51 <Stablean> <Anson> depots are empty now !!!! 10:28:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i force emptied them 10:28:17 <Stablean> <Anson> sending some trains also to the right (at least for now) solved the problem 10:28:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> by stopping anything entering 10:28:26 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dozer :) 10:28:28 <Stablean> <Anson> LOL 10:29:52 <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice to have an easy method to compute and/or display the unload and load times 10:29:58 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (general timeout) 10:29:58 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (connection lost) 10:31:12 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach joined the game 10:31:27 <Stablean> *** V453666 has left the game (leaving) 10:32:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who is green? 10:32:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> how green ? :) 10:32:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> supremacy 10:32:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> madinghall power station 10:32:26 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're missing a PBS 10:32:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which is causing a big jam 10:32:34 <Stablean> <Supremacy> ty 10:32:44 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 click too much .. :D 10:33:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thats why i hate other signal grfs 10:33:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its hard enough already 10:33:48 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hate small spaces... can't build my behemot stations :( 10:34:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the sawmill is nice 10:34:17 <Stablean> <Supremacy> it shure is 10:35:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:36:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:36:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:38:22 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (leaving) 10:39:06 <Stablean> <Anson> a very rough estimate : trains need ca. 20 seconds to enter the last part of the drop, unload and leave, and they need 5 seconds to enter or level the depots ... 10:40:02 <Stablean> <Anson> 3 trains in 20 sec at the drop, and at the depot, 3 trains need 15 sec to enter one depot while 3 other trains leave the other 10:40:43 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> forgive my stupidity, but what does timing them help with? 10:40:46 <Stablean> <Anson> rally tight fit ... almost the same time for unloading and the depots ... and i may be off by 1 or 2 seconds .... 10:41:25 <Stablean> <Anson> if 3 trains unload in 20 seconds and want to refit in a depot, and the depot can handle less than 3 trains in the same time, you have a problem 10:41:41 <Stablean> <Supremacy> timing makes things run on schedule, anti-jam. Uber micro manangement 10:41:41 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:41:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:41:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:42:14 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't speak of giving timetable orders ... just estimating the throughput of the drop and the depots 10:42:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so you work out how long it takes a train to travel 5 tiles? 10:42:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the left is still more heavily used than the right 10:43:03 <Stablean> <Anson> i simply watched the trains and counted the time to enter the last part of the drop, enter the platform, unload, and leave completely 10:43:26 <Stablean> <Anson> that was about 20 seconds, and 3 trains are doing it parallel 10:43:36 <Stablean> <Anson> thus around 7 seconds per train 10:44:42 <Stablean> <velvet> breakdowns are disabled on this server! 10:44:52 <Stablean> <Supremacy> which is great ! 10:45:06 <Stablean> <velvet> it is not real 10:45:09 <Stablean> <velvet> so it is bad 10:45:11 <Stablean> <Supremacy> this game is not real 10:45:15 <Stablean> <velvet> yes it is 10:45:29 <Stablean> <Anson> many professionals try avoiding PBS ... but maybe PBS would better look ahead and distribute trains more evenly for left and right 10:45:31 <Stablean> <Supremacy> so.. you've seen trains networks like these outside your window? 10:45:43 <Stablean> <velvet> i read baout pbs 10:45:57 <Stablean> <velvet> thay are more realistic than blocka and others 10:46:03 <Stablean> <velvet> *blocks 10:46:43 <Stablean> <Anson> PBS in reality requires trains to stop, ask permission from a central place to advance, etc 10:47:08 <Stablean> <Anson> and in reality, no train decides for itself whether and where to go after a split 10:48:14 <Stablean> <Anson> if you want that kind of realism, there is another open train simulator which requires you to set up exact train plans, when and where they should go, etc 10:48:55 <Stablean> <Anson> and when a train in that game is on one track and 3 parallel tracks are empty, other trains still would queue up if you didn't set up everything right 10:49:02 <KenjiE20> in reality, a signaller has already decided about 2 miles prior 10:50:50 <Stablean> <velvet> truew 10:50:56 <Stablean> <Anson> lets start to determine whether thisgame can be realistic ... trains go 5 tiles per sec with a speed of a few hundred kph ... thus a 5TL train has a length of a few kilometers at least, if not a few dozen ... :-) 10:51:26 <Stablean> <velvet> some trains need half year to go from station to station :) 10:52:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> cant buy road vehicle, too many vehicles in game 10:52:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have 10! 10:52:21 <Stablean> <velvet> 10 is a limit 10:52:25 <KenjiE20> pbs is easy, the only time you need a pbs signal, is when more than one train can traverse an area at the same time 10:52:29 <Stablean> <velvet> it is sad... 10:52:29 <Stablean> <Anson> this game is as realistic as a game simulation can be, and still be fun 10:54:04 <Stablean> <Anson> kenji: PBS also helps save space in very tight situations 10:54:27 <KenjiE20> that still falls under multiple in the same block 10:54:44 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:54:59 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:54:59 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 10:55:14 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR has left the game (leaving) 10:55:38 <Stablean> <Supremacy> any hope for restart soon? 10:58:44 <Stablean> <velvet> there will be toyworld probably :D 10:58:59 <Stablean> *** velvet has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 10:59:35 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> seconded, restart pls 10:59:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thirded 11:00:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have the whole day off work and want to conquer a bit of a map entirely :p 11:00:30 <Ammler> you guys have a map to load? 11:00:44 <Ammler> !date 11:00:45 <Stablean> Ammler: 20 Jun 2126 11:00:54 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pls not toyworld :p 11:00:56 <Stablean> <velvet> 3 or more os us want restart 11:01:02 <Stablean> <velvet> *of 11:01:23 <Ammler> I don't want suggestions for how t create next map, I WANT next map from YOU :-) 11:01:30 <Stablean> <velvet> there is so warm in Warsaw..... 11:01:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'll make one 11:01:38 <Stablean> <velvet> and Euro 2012 11:01:42 <Ammler> cool 11:01:58 <Stablean> <velvet> ` 11:02:14 <Stablean> <velvet> it has to be toyworld with BYBBLES and COLA!!! 11:02:36 <Stablean> <Supremacy> toyworld was probably the worst thing that could have happened to ttd :D 11:02:37 <Ammler> remember to be sure to use bananas newgrfs only 11:02:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what industry set shoudlwe have? 11:02:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> FIRS? ECS? 11:02:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which railset 11:02:50 <Stablean> <Supremacy> Firs :D 11:02:56 <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS19.sav 11:02:57 <KenjiE20> toyland ftw 11:02:58 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 11:03:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> firs 2 votes (me included) 11:03:04 <Ammler> oh 11:03:14 <Stablean> <velvet> i dont know what are you talking about :O 11:03:18 <Ammler> there is one :-) 11:03:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland hurts my EYES 11:03:28 <KenjiE20> pfft 11:03:34 <Ammler> sorry V 11:03:41 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 11:03:45 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 11:03:46 <V453000> np :p 11:03:47 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 11:03:47 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 11:03:47 <V453000> !auto 11:03:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 11:03:49 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:03:50 * Ammler goes away :-P 11:03:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh chirst 11:03:53 <Stablean> <Supremacy> gotta be kidding me... 11:03:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it happened 11:03:59 <Stablean> *** velvet has started a new company (#2) 11:03:59 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:04:01 <Stablean> *** velvet joined the game 11:04:03 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 11:04:11 <Stablean> <Supremacy> seems i have to wait for next game... bye 11:04:14 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving) 11:04:22 <Stablean> <velvet> oh it is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:04:24 <KenjiE20> haha 11:04:27 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#3) 11:04:47 <V453000> noob :) 11:05:15 <KenjiE20> only the best truly apppreciate the ways of toyland :p 11:05:40 <V453000> only the worst dont :p 11:06:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that is a good argument :P 11:06:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive actually never played toyland 11:06:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it just looks ghastly! 11:06:20 <Stablean> <Anson> how fast are trains entering and leaving depots ? ... the same speed in theory, but maybe they brake a moment later when they already are 1 or 2 tiles into the depot, and on leaving they have the speed limit all the time ? 11:06:38 <KenjiE20> one of my personal favorite games was toyland, waay back when only TT/TTD existed 11:08:44 <BiG_MeEcH> hi 11:12:14 <Stablean> *** SilverMaxim(RUS) joined the game 11:12:27 <V453000> and you probably havent yet seen my train set in toyland KenjiE20 :p 11:12:49 <KenjiE20> no, but I heard about the nyan cat 11:13:15 <V453000> not in teh set anymore 11:13:20 <KenjiE20> :( 11:13:52 <Stablean> *** SilverMaxim(RUS) has left the game (leaving) 11:16:06 <BiG_MeEcH> tac nayn ;) 11:16:25 <BiG_MeEcH> like its so evil , its right up V's alley 11:16:35 <BiG_MeEcH> imsurprised its not in the set =D 11:17:08 <BiG_MeEcH> * hint 11:19:48 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#1) 11:21:33 <BiG_MeEcH> hi? 11:21:40 <BiG_MeEcH> !players 11:21:42 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1224 (Dark Blue) is KrunchyAl, in company 3 (KrunchyAl Transport) 11:21:42 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1226 is Mazur, a spectator 11:21:42 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1229 (Orange) is velvet, in company 2 (velvet Transport) 11:21:42 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1231 (Red) is Anson, in company 1 (Anson Transport) 11:21:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hello 11:21:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> good day 11:22:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> welcome 11:22:02 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nice to see you 11:22:14 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 11:22:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hell 11:22:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> howdy 11:22:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> o 11:22:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland is hurting my eyeballs 11:22:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> gouge your eyes out 11:23:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it would hurt less 11:23:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 11:23:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> probably 11:23:23 <V453000> do you at least use the manly ttd graphics set for toyland? 11:23:36 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> opengfx 11:23:48 <V453000> then dont whine that it hurts your eyes 11:23:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just gouge your eyes out 11:23:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> and add tac nayn 11:24:07 <KenjiE20> ttd toyland best toyland 11:24:27 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#4) 11:25:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm =[ I gotta leave soon 11:26:02 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 11:26:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> grr 11:29:28 <Stablean> *** V453666 joined the game 11:29:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hi v 11:29:34 <Stablean> <V453666> hi 11:29:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> probably easier to make a small line to start Velvet 11:29:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi V 11:32:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> V453666: * tickles 11:34:10 <Stablean> <velvet> are hopper or tanker wagons better than universal? 11:34:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> id go with universal 11:34:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> but there is no difference 11:34:34 <Stablean> <velvet> ok 11:34:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> as long as they are same gen 11:34:42 <Stablean> <V453666> hoppers look a bit better in 1st and 2nd gen 11:34:56 <Stablean> <V453666> well up to you to decide if they look better :) 11:34:57 <Stablean> <V453666> I think they do 11:35:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like Dennis Hopper 11:35:14 <Stablean> *** V453666 has started a new company (#4) 11:36:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> V453666: i had a good plan on the furthest island on the left 11:36:23 <Stablean> <V453666> do it? 11:36:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> i gtg soon 11:36:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sadly 11:36:50 <Stablean> <velvet> yes they have some symbols 11:36:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going for this big one in the middle 11:36:59 <Stablean> <velvet> ant ist look diffrent 11:37:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> starting with candyfloss 11:37:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> KrunchyAl: not when velvet invades, yo uarent =P 11:37:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why would velvet do that? 11:37:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> he already has 11:37:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he has one station 11:37:59 <Stablean> <velvet> yet 11:38:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which isnt connected to anything 11:38:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> soon it will be connected to ALL 11:38:13 <Stablean> <velvet> :D 11:41:28 <Stablean> <velvet> Kruunchy can i compete with you? 11:41:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> compete? how so 11:41:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 11:42:15 <Stablean> <velvet> to use the yourfabrics 11:42:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I wanna haul fabric 11:42:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i don't understand? 11:42:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> quilters will be pleased 11:42:56 <Stablean> <velvet> hmm 11:44:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> be back 11:45:36 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh man i was saving that space velvet for ll rr 11:45:41 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 11:45:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my island! 11:45:55 <Stablean> <V453666> wtf 11:45:55 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 11:46:00 <Stablean> <V453666> velvet please stay on your island 11:46:07 <Stablean> <velvet> ? 11:46:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 11:46:27 <Stablean> <V453666> you have your own island at the bottom of the map, stay there please 11:46:29 <Stablean> <velvet> bad 11:47:32 <Stablean> <Supremacy> other islands are usable only if you expand your original one, but first you have to use most resources there :) 11:49:01 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has started a new company (#5) 11:49:02 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> velvet, any chance you could remove those tracks so you dont forget later? 11:49:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here 11:49:15 <Stablean> <velvet> i want to use it alter 11:49:21 <Stablean> <V453666> no you don want to use it later 11:49:21 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has started a new company (#6) 11:49:27 <Stablean> <velvet> yes want :D 11:49:33 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i want to use it later 11:49:43 <Stablean> <V453666> ok, put it in other words. Either delete them yourself or I will 11:49:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as you can see its going to get busy up there 11:49:51 <Stablean> <V453666> and I have more mass destruction methods than just few rails 11:50:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> velvet? 11:50:56 <Stablean> <velvet> i deleted it 11:51:02 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here 11:51:13 <Stablean> <V453666> and Flutbridge station 11:51:32 <Stablean> <velvet> i was first here! 11:51:39 <Stablean> <V453666> no? 11:51:41 <Stablean> <velvet> yes! 11:52:08 <Stablean> <V453666> still stay on your bottom island 11:52:13 <Stablean> <Supremacy> velvet, trolling or something? 11:52:22 <Stablean> <velvet> i wanted to connect it 11:52:24 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> everyone seems to butt with me 11:52:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> first kyler, now velvet 11:52:34 <Stablean> <V453666> right, you guys have 5 minutes to sort this out, then I will 11:52:53 <Stablean> *** velvet has left the game (leaving) 11:52:54 <Stablean> <V453666> solved 11:52:54 <Stablean> <Supremacy> well, that seems to settle it :D 11:53:03 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 2 11:53:03 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 11:53:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woo 11:53:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what happened? 11:53:35 <Stablean> <V453666> he refused to discuss? 11:53:37 <Stablean> <V453666> so he left 11:53:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 11:54:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> glad there are rules 11:54:24 <Stablean> <V453666> some people are ridiculous 11:54:59 <Stablean> <V453666> bottom island is free btw Supremacy/happy 11:55:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> maybe i want it 11:55:11 <Stablean> <V453666> if you felt like not sharing :) 11:55:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i want to connect it 11:55:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> save it for later 11:55:17 <Stablean> <V453666> you have one big island already 11:55:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm being sarcastic? 11:55:23 <Stablean> <Supremacy> bah, when did you get here :D 11:55:25 <Stablean> <V453666> lol 11:56:03 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i guess i'll move bottom side than .. 11:56:11 <Stablean> <V453666> thx 11:58:09 <Stablean> *** Mazur has started a new company (#2) 11:59:29 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:02:03 <Stablean> <Supremacy> mazur, please move to some other island 12:02:13 <Stablean> <V453666> :D 12:02:27 <Stablean> <V453666> there is a free one just north of there 12:02:33 <Stablean> <Mazur> Noone was using it when I started. 12:02:36 <Stablean> <Supremacy> that should be specified in rules or something :D 12:02:54 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i'm pretty sure i had a station and some tracks laid before you joined the server 12:03:05 <Stablean> <Mazur> But, as I planted my station in the wrong place anyway... 12:03:15 <Stablean> <V453666> :D wow 12:03:29 <Stablean> *** Mazur has joined spectators 12:03:35 <Stablean> <Supremacy> wow.. indeed :D 12:03:35 <Stablean> <Supremacy> thanks :) 12:04:26 <Mazur> !ercon reset_company 2 12:04:31 <Mazur> !rcon reset_company 2 12:04:31 <Stablean> Mazur: Company deleted. 12:04:36 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was very easy to get started this round 12:05:51 <Stablean> <V453666> nuts and relatively flat land, cant want much more 12:06:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> isthere a way i can disable catenary 12:06:44 <Stablean> <Supremacy> he has got oddly flat land 12:06:54 <Stablean> <Supremacy> but why lots of water and mountains? 12:08:14 <Stablean> <Supremacy> this is the only server with good newgrfs and breakdowns turned off, but not much space to build :D 12:08:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i think V showed last time you dont need much space 12:08:44 <Stablean> <V453666> use the space better :) 12:08:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you can have your bribe back later V453666 12:09:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i can use space conservatly, i just like to build more freely :) 12:09:44 <Stablean> *** megamaster joined the game 12:11:35 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 12:11:37 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#2) 12:11:54 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 12:12:07 <Stablean> <V453666> bribe? :o 12:12:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> for the compliments 12:12:19 <Stablean> <V453666> lol 12:13:47 <Stablean> <Supremacy> is razing towns allowed? 12:14:45 <Stablean> <V453666> already? :D 12:14:59 <Stablean> <V453666> it is allowed if it has a good reason 12:15:06 <Stablean> <V453666> when you have space now it shouldnt be needed 12:15:45 <Stablean> <Supremacy> at now it hasn't, later i think :D 12:15:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> blow up all the towns 12:15:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> they dont dserve to live 12:15:55 <Stablean> <V453666> rule n1 dont listen to meech 12:15:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> tac nayn will raze them all 12:16:01 <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D 12:16:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the idea of a battery farm 12:16:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its just nuts 12:16:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the idea of nuts, is nuts 12:16:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> =p 12:16:27 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> OH PAHAHAH 12:16:34 <Stablean> <V453666> its not my fault that this climate is mental 12:16:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sarcasm looses something in the IRC 12:19:19 <Stablean> *** megamaster has left the game (leaving) 12:24:21 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:25:32 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah... anyone knows a good LL_RR non-ro-ro station ? :D 12:25:38 <Stablean> <V453666> no I dont know anything 12:25:45 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 12:25:53 <Stablean> <Supremacy> you obviously lie.. 12:26:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i hate it when you build a route to a factory and it closes before the first load arrives 12:26:42 <Stablean> <V453666> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Junctionar 12:26:48 <Stablean> <V453666> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Junctionary 12:27:18 <Stablean> <Supremacy> almost found one at PS game236, but it was somewhy 1 entry 2 exit lanes.. 12:27:37 <Stablean> <V453666> the idea of all stations is mostlythe same 12:27:39 <Stablean> <V453666> just adapt 12:27:43 <Stablean> <V453666> you dont have to 1:1 copy it 12:29:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> god darn this TF costs 12:29:04 <Stablean> <V453666> I havent tfed a single tile yet 12:29:06 <Stablean> <V453666> why did you 12:29:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> cuz i suck 12:29:13 <Stablean> <Supremacy> heh, new stations and junctions in wiki since last time 12:29:33 <Stablean> <Supremacy> to be fair, you use TL2 :) 12:29:44 <Stablean> <V453666> therefore? 12:29:54 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like tunnels 12:29:54 <Stablean> <V453666> he uses cl1 anyway 12:30:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that helps with wanting to TF 12:30:10 <Stablean> <V453666> you like tunnels and you leave a game when you cant build bridges 12:30:13 <Stablean> <V453666> :D k 12:30:18 <Stablean> <Supremacy> smaller TL , smaller turns, less need for flat space 12:30:30 <Stablean> <V453666> that doesnt mean you have to tf with higher tl 12:31:16 <Stablean> <Supremacy> you don't have to tf with TL 20 too, but for the sake of speed, i'd still do it.. 12:32:03 <Stablean> <V453666> in the start of the game you have speed 90 12:32:06 <Stablean> <V453666> you can use cl1 12:32:18 <Stablean> <V453666> regardless of tl 12:32:41 <Stablean> <Supremacy> meaning you have to rebuild later on. Some may do it, i prefer not to :) 12:32:55 <Stablean> <V453666> then build better from start? :) 12:33:05 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hence tf for me :D 12:33:07 <Stablean> <V453666> you have to expand the network rather soon anyway 12:33:22 <Stablean> <V453666> I mean, this is _flat_ landscape 12:33:32 <Stablean> <V453666> you really dont need to tf for a long time 12:33:39 <Stablean> <Supremacy> sadly it is very flat :( 12:33:45 <Stablean> <V453666> so dont blame high tf costs :) 12:33:51 <Stablean> <Anson> at the start of this game, there were three engines with speed 80, 100, and 120 12:34:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like TF 12:34:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm addicted 12:34:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its like crack 12:34:23 <Stablean> <V453666> too bad 12:35:33 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> diags are a pain with TFing 12:41:41 <Stablean> <Supremacy> it has been long since my public server games.. looking at the old ones, i were some in game 30-40 :D 12:41:49 <Stablean> <Supremacy> in some game* 12:41:59 <Stablean> <Supremacy> bah. some in games* 12:48:19 <Stablean> *** catmando joined the game 12:48:36 <Stablean> *** catmando has left the game (leaving) 12:50:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm my island is huge 12:51:27 <Stablean> <Supremacy> thats nice, ferrying 1 passanger 2 tiles yields no profit at all :) 12:52:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> right i know i moaned earlier, toyland is fun 12:53:45 <Stablean> <Supremacy> mos fun i've had was on some guy MEGA server, used ECS and map was heightmap of Holland with hand picked semi real industry placement and towns 12:54:03 <Stablean> <Supremacy> tried searching for the height map, but no luck :( 12:54:35 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i used to like a map called big smoke 12:54:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it had 2wide space cleared for trains and hand placed groups of industries interspercing the towns 13:04:42 <Stablean> *** pav joined the game 13:04:45 <Stablean> *** V453666 has left the game (leaving) 13:17:33 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> could i have feedback on 'a tasty drop; 13:17:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the exit with the reverser? 13:18:01 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (general timeout) 13:18:01 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (connection lost) 13:18:22 <Stablean> <Supremacy> with more traffic i reckon it will jam 13:19:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ideas for fixing? 13:21:47 <Stablean> <Supremacy> you're in a bind there 13:21:51 <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe like the other drop site? 13:22:01 <Stablean> *** chester joined the game 13:22:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my swiss circle? 13:22:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 13:22:11 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah :D 13:24:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thoughts? 13:24:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they can use the reverser if clear, then if not they get sent the long way out 13:24:41 <Stablean> <Supremacy> seems good 13:24:55 <Stablean> *** chester has started a new company (#2) 13:29:00 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 13:29:24 <Mazur> !rcon move 1288 255 13:29:24 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 13:29:28 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators 13:29:30 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (general timeout) 13:29:30 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 13:30:15 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:30:36 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 13:31:16 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 13:31:40 <Mazur> !rcon move 1295 255 13:31:41 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 13:31:44 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators 13:31:54 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:44:31 <Stablean> *** pav joined the game 13:52:14 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:52:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> blegh 13:52:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye 13:52:22 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i should probably plan better 13:52:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 13:59:40 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (general timeout) 13:59:40 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (connection lost) 14:09:35 <BiG_MeEcH> -rehi 14:11:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello Happy Transport 14:11:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi big meech 14:11:48 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 14:12:12 <Mazur> !rcon move 1309 255 14:12:12 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 14:12:16 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're going to wat to change your name player 14:12:16 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators 14:12:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol ? what 14:12:42 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has changed his/her name to Meech 14:12:49 <Stablean> *** Meech has changed his/her name to NiTreXxX 14:12:55 <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has changed his/her name to Big_Meech 14:12:55 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol 14:13:01 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to NiTreXxX 14:13:03 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> now it works 14:13:03 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> xD 14:13:07 <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has joined company #7 14:13:12 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not sure, it does that sometimes 14:13:31 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> you´re the admin here ? 14:13:42 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what makes you ask that? 14:13:48 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> is there a problem ? 14:13:51 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> no it isnt 14:13:56 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> cant I ask that ? :D 14:14:10 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you just did =D 14:14:57 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 14:15:06 <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has joined spectators 14:15:12 <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> kind of full here huh 14:15:26 <Mazur> !rcon move 1312 255 14:15:26 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 14:15:32 <Stablean> Mazur: client_name 1312 Criss 14:15:32 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has changed his/her name to Criss 14:15:34 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Criss has joined spectators 14:16:02 <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has left the game (leaving) 14:16:18 <Stablean> *** Criss has left the game (leaving) 14:16:34 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 14:17:02 <Mazur> !rcon move 1314 255 14:17:02 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 14:17:08 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators 14:18:11 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #9 14:18:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe in 15 mints 14:18:26 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 14:18:32 <Mazur> !rcon move 1314 255 14:18:32 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 14:18:34 <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators 14:18:38 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Criss 14:18:50 <Stablean> *** Criss has joined company #9 14:19:08 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 14:20:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the industries here are great really 14:20:11 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sugar, batteries etc 14:20:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like the animations 14:20:35 <Stablean> <chester> buy me 14:21:38 <Stablean> <chester> wtf i cant buy a ship 14:23:52 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:26:39 <Stablean> *** pav joined the game 14:26:58 <Stablean> *** chester has left the game (leaving) 14:27:50 <Stablean> <pav> I have internet interrupts for 10 min constantly :( 14:29:44 <Stablean> <pav> I love V's tiny network ... 2ith all thouse small trains 14:31:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would anyone like to coop with me? 14:32:21 <Stablean> <pav> I'll pass this game I think ... maybe later ... neeed to relearn some things first, ty :) 14:32:43 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh yes, i am a total master 14:32:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> have you seen my network? 14:32:55 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its big but completely messy 14:33:17 <Stablean> <pav> its really big mess, but its really huge :) 14:34:23 <Stablean> *** Trinida has started a new company (#7) 14:34:26 <Stablean> *** Trinida joined the game 14:35:23 <Stablean> *** Trinida has left the game (leaving) 14:37:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pav how come you're not in a company 14:38:06 <Stablean> <pav> I have interruption in internet connection ... 14:41:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who's built at my sweet factory? 14:41:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> criss please remove your tracks 14:42:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Criss: please remove your tracks 14:42:24 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here 14:42:36 <Stablean> <Criss> where? 14:42:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> little bunnbury woods 14:42:50 <Stablean> <Criss> why? 14:43:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> have you read the rules? 14:43:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> because it is stealing 14:43:15 <Stablean> <Criss> ok 14:43:25 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and also, it's where i want to put my station 14:43:52 <Stablean> *** Criss has left the game (general timeout) 14:43:52 <Stablean> *** Criss has left the game (connection lost) 14:44:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why's it alwaqys ME! 14:44:34 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 14:46:10 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 14:47:52 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving) 14:47:54 *** KrunchyAl has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:48:03 <KrunchyAl> hello 14:52:21 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 14:54:16 <KrunchyAl> !admin a player is stealing from my sweet factory and i need their tracks removed please! 14:54:16 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 14:54:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 14:54:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #6 14:54:43 <KrunchyAl> BiG_MeEcH, are you there 14:55:27 <Stablean> <pav> Criss company will dissapear soon, no need admin I think 14:55:31 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 14:55:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its so annoying 14:55:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i sound like a baby 14:55:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 14:56:32 <Mazur> !rcon reset_company 9 14:56:32 <Stablean> Mazur: Company deleted. 14:56:44 <Stablean> <pav> btw its better if you offer money support to criss to move to another place ... but ... 14:56:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he left pretty quick 14:57:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but will do next time 14:57:07 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 14:57:11 <Stablean> <Mazur> pav: here is no need for that, the rules are dead simple. 14:57:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woo he's gone 14:57:34 <Stablean> <Mazur> Now I can get back to my peace and quiet. 14:57:38 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 14:57:50 <Stablean> <pav> its not about rules, its about coop I think too :) 14:58:18 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> respecting your fellow humans! 14:58:28 <Stablean> <pav> :) 15:12:51 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 15:13:59 <Stablean> <nicfer> anyone I can coop? 15:14:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup 15:14:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> myself 15:14:33 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> help me tidy up a bit and start LL RR ing 15:15:58 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 15:16:46 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> connect more primaries? 15:17:04 <Stablean> <pav> Krunchy you have jam ... 15:17:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup, autoreplace 15:17:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorting it 15:17:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> wondered why my money was running out :P 15:21:26 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup 15:21:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> jam 15:22:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> redo the junctions too, most of this was done in 1925 around here 15:26:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> we can always move the entrace / exit for the sweet drop closer to rentborough? or leave it on the double hub? 15:33:58 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali joined the game 15:34:05 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi 15:34:12 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:34:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> alright 15:35:53 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (leaving) 15:50:34 <Stablean> <nicfer> what's up with the lag? 15:53:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> blooming laggggg 15:55:32 *** freshmeatt has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:16:13 <Stablean> *** stasieks has left the game (processing map took too long) 16:16:13 <Stablean> *** stasieks has left the game (connection lost) 16:17:42 <Stablean> *** stasieks has left the game (processing map took too long) 16:17:42 <Stablean> *** stasieks has left the game (connection lost) 16:26:23 <Stablean> *** Sleeeper joined the game 16:26:59 <Stablean> *** Sleeeper has left the game (leaving) 16:34:04 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 16:34:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sup! 16:34:53 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hi 16:34:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i was attempting humour 16:34:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:34:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> combining your name with a greeting 16:35:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 'sup' 16:35:04 <Stablean> <Supremacy> heh :D 16:35:10 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i'm not sure it was actually funny 16:35:32 <Stablean> <Supremacy> made me chuckle a bit after you explained it :d 16:35:35 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would anyone like to help us kill slinborough? 16:36:29 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:36:31 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#7) 16:36:39 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:36:41 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#8) 16:37:05 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:37:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#9) 16:37:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:37:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#10) 16:37:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:37:09 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#11) 16:37:16 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 16:37:25 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 16:39:25 <Stablean> <nicfer> curves shall be CL4 16:39:36 <Stablean> <nicfer> @@tl4 16:39:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> except for by the sugar 16:45:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> zombie slam 16:56:46 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (general timeout) 16:56:47 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 17:00:52 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:01:58 *** BiG_MeEcH has quit IRC 17:15:58 <Stablean> <Supremacy> krunchy, enjoing the pleasures of upgrading L_R to LL_RR on the fly ? :D 17:16:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nicfer is doing all the hard work 17:16:26 <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D 17:16:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but it is hideous 17:16:34 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, been there :D 17:16:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i couldn't afford to do it from the start 17:16:56 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i still can't :D 17:17:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's difficult on public servers as you feel the need to spread out as fast as possible so people dont nick your stuff 17:17:37 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i find TF costs to be the thing that slows 17:17:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you can help us if you want 17:17:46 <Stablean> *** PRO-RUS joined the game 17:18:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> think i'm going to rework sweetie pie to double the number of platforms 17:18:08 <Stablean> *** PRO-RUS has left the game (leaving) 17:18:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> create a north facing set 17:18:15 <Stablean> <Supremacy> not ready to invest so much in toyland :D i'll build my island full and upgrade to LR_LR and bye bye 17:18:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i just disable trees 17:18:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> makes it ok 17:18:42 <Stablean> <Supremacy> oh disable trees is on :D 17:18:48 <Stablean> <nicfer> I think 6 platforms is enough 17:19:34 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:19:57 <Stablean> *** valis joined the game 17:24:15 <Stablean> *** valis has left the game (leaving) 17:26:56 <Stablean> *** ACM joined the game 17:27:56 <Stablean> <ACM> Eye bleeding goodness! 17:28:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's wonderful 17:28:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if you disable trees 17:28:43 <Stablean> <Anson> isn't thare a list of all stations ? i can't find it .... 17:29:01 <Stablean> <ACM> It's the button that looks like a station. 17:29:01 <Stablean> <Supremacy> left from coin icon top 17:29:19 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the station icon :P 17:29:21 <Stablean> <Anson> thanks 17:30:49 <Stablean> <Anson> and there probably still is no option to get rid of some unwanted items on stations, ege when i no longer service some industry or accidentally let a wron type of wagon go there ? 17:31:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nope 17:31:08 <Stablean> <Supremacy> in couple of years it goes away 17:31:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> or more 17:31:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> delete the station 17:31:26 <Stablean> <Supremacy> it does go away 17:31:40 <Stablean> <Supremacy> when ratings drop, cargo typically goes 17:31:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh 17:32:07 <Stablean> <ACM> That just sauses you to have a 0% rating on that cargo forever though. 17:32:11 <Stablean> <ACM> *causes 17:32:33 <Stablean> <ACM> It doesn't -unflag- the cargo, does it? 17:32:40 <Stablean> <Supremacy> dunno 17:33:31 <Stablean> <ACM> I remember as a kid playing the demo toTTD, thinking this was great. 17:33:43 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was on a floppy 17:33:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the copy i had from the front of a mag 17:33:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and was time limited 17:34:00 <Stablean> <Supremacy> first it even wasnt a ttd, just tt :D 17:34:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> to think how far ottd has bbrought the game on is incredible 17:34:29 <Stablean> <ACM> I even remember TT before TTD. 17:34:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup 17:34:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> in 94 i was 6, but got my first comp when i was 9 17:35:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> a 486 no less, with windows 3.1 17:35:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and a 4GB hdd! 17:35:30 <Stablean> <ACM> I wasn't into computers at that time. 17:35:44 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb seems tad bit much for that time, you shure? 17:35:54 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was a compaq from my dads work 17:35:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they were throwing out 17:35:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes im sure 17:36:08 <Stablean> <ACM> The copy of TTD I've got is a CD. And I've got two in this house. 17:36:33 <Stablean> *** Mazth joined the game 17:36:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hi Mazth 17:36:43 <Stablean> <ACM> I think it was 1999 that I got it. 17:36:46 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how was your peace and quiet? 17:36:48 <Stablean> <Mazth> hiiii noobies! 17:37:11 <Stablean> <Mazth> it was delightful ;) 17:38:32 <Stablean> *** Vinnieq joined the game 17:38:55 <Stablean> <Mazth> vinnie suddenly from quatar? 17:39:02 <Stablean> <Vinnieq> ^^ 17:39:08 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb seems still too much.. 2 min search got me to a 1gb for PCs that time 17:39:19 <Stablean> <Vinnieq> im an idiot that presses keys while in the mp screen 17:39:25 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> well i cant prove it! 17:39:27 <Stablean> *** Vinnieq has changed his/her name to Vinnie 17:39:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but im sure, or was till you questioned it 17:39:45 <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D 17:39:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it ran monster truck madness 17:40:09 <Stablean> <Supremacy> During the mid-1990s the typical hard disk drive for a PC had a capacity of about 1 gigabyte 17:40:15 <Stablean> <Supremacy> quote from wiki 17:40:25 <Stablean> <Vinnie> deadlock 17:40:31 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb isn't impossbile 17:40:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nah, we nicfer is expaning a junction 17:41:27 <Stablean> <Anson> my first harddisk was 10 MB and cost 1500 DM :-) 17:41:29 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i lost my logic :( 17:42:03 <Stablean> <Mazth> there must be chaos to his logic! 17:42:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> need help? 17:42:44 <Stablean> <Mazth> I need space 17:42:50 <Stablean> <Anson> my first external storage before that was a 5.25" floppy and cost 1500 DM too :-) 17:43:09 <Stablean> <Mazth> man those huge disks were sexy 17:43:29 <Stablean> <Mazth> green on black flickering dash <3 17:43:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> Nuts fills the game so fast, cheap trains fast profit 17:43:53 <Stablean> <Anson> one pack of 5.25" floppies cost 150 DM ... storage per disk 140 KB 17:44:11 <Stablean> <Supremacy> TF costs balances a bit 17:44:21 <Stablean> <Mazth> you guys trained m too well, now every one makes huge networks :P 17:44:27 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:44:36 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i did nothing 17:44:58 <Stablean> <Mazth> did you not see all the logics they copied from you? 17:45:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive only been playing online for a week 17:45:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i played offline for a couple of days since and its boring 17:45:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woudlnt go back 17:45:45 <Stablean> <Supremacy> well my LR_LR inspiration came from PS game 29 :) 17:46:03 <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats oldscool 17:46:25 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, there are a few (LOL) trains waiting in front of Sweetie Pie .... or maybe ALL trains are waiting there ? :-) 17:46:29 <Stablean> <Supremacy> built itsy bitsy during games 31-40 17:46:35 <Stablean> <Supremacy> myself 17:46:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dw, nicfer is upgrading the junction 17:46:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they'll clear 17:47:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's about 18 months of jam to clear so will take a while 17:47:23 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 17:47:27 <Stablean> *** nicfer has started a new company (#7) 17:47:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> nicfer: build faster :P 17:47:31 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 17:47:39 <Stablean> <Supremacy> look at operating profit graph to see mayor upgrades in his network :D 17:47:42 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 17:49:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> that was smart 17:49:20 <Stablean> <Mazth> err lol 17:49:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what did i miss? went away for a min 17:49:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> nicfer made new company do kill some buildings in Kebourne 17:49:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> standard 17:50:02 <Stablean> <Mazth> or use trees? 17:50:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> this is cheaper 17:50:11 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as it see it the problem is !here 17:50:13 <Stablean> <Mazth> true 17:50:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> all trains it seems want to go thru here 17:50:50 <Stablean> <Vinnie> connect the second track as a temp further ahead 17:51:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you want to coop vin? 17:51:18 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can play for a couple of minutes 17:51:42 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> :) 17:51:44 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #3 17:51:48 <Stablean> <Vinnie> sexy 17:51:58 <Stablean> <ACM> I just realised something. 17:52:12 <Stablean> <ACM> I don't think I've ever seen all the stages of the toyland headquarters 17:52:30 <Stablean> <Mazth> there are stages for the HQ? 17:52:36 <Stablean> <Mazth> determined by what? 17:52:43 <Stablean> <ACM> performance rating. 17:52:51 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hah.. so small castle for director.. 17:53:13 <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got a missing connection, thats why they take one track 17:53:29 <Stablean> *** ACM has left the game (leaving) 17:56:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> forgive my distance, im distracted 17:57:53 <Stablean> <Mazth> for the secondaries need all the primaries be supplied or does 1 primary also produce secondary goods? 17:58:03 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 17:58:06 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 suffices 17:58:17 <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh temp removed jammed something 17:58:19 <Stablean> <Supremacy> with original industries 17:58:25 <Stablean> <Supremacy> but not with FIRS or ECS 17:58:31 <Stablean> <Mazth> ok 17:59:31 <Stablean> <Mazth> lol hate it when there is no space :P 17:59:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its part of the challenge 17:59:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> although that lake would be useful if gone 18:00:35 <Stablean> <Mazth> it is doable :P I just feel like I am getting in the way 18:01:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i reckon it'd be 100mill for that lake to fill it in 18:01:32 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 577.039.940 18:01:32 <Stablean> <Mazth> :P 18:01:32 <Stablean> <Supremacy> pounds 18:01:32 <Stablean> <Mazth> that sounds more like it 18:01:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> wowzer 18:01:41 <Stablean> <Supremacy> hold shift under to get an estimate of something 18:01:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> got it 18:02:11 <Stablean> <Supremacy> sometimes it lies thou 18:02:21 <Stablean> <Mazth> well iti s an estimate 18:02:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah but if it lies its always cheaper 18:03:57 <Stablean> <Mazth> lol pink went crazy with the stations walks :P 18:04:53 <Stablean> *** Mazth has started a new company (#7) 18:06:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ooo, i like the hidden deps 18:06:32 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 18:07:09 <Stablean> <Mazth> meh too much trouble 18:07:24 <Stablean> *** Mazth has joined spectators 18:07:34 <Stablean> <Anson> not much trouble ... almost exactly the same as you have now 18:08:12 <Stablean> <Anson> only need to add 3 tiles of track and use another signal 18:10:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> anson, rentborough heights 18:10:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> like that? 18:10:57 <Stablean> <Anson> i watched you building it :-) 18:11:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i do like reversers 18:11:49 <Stablean> <Anson> it even would be easy to extend the station up to 4 platforms when needed :-) 18:12:25 <Stablean> <Anson> only change woul be that the reverser has to be kept long enough 18:12:47 <Stablean> <Anson> btw : those trains are TL4 ? the reverser is only TL3 now 18:13:09 <Stablean> <Anson> or maybe 3.5 :-) 18:13:12 <Stablean> *** KJ joined the game 18:13:25 <Stablean> <KJ> hi 18:13:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 18:14:21 <Stablean> <pav> revers dont work now 18:16:48 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see the reverer length i planned it based on the deopt placement, whereas it should be based on the further platform placement 18:17:52 <Stablean> *** KJ has started a new company (#7) 18:18:44 <Stablean> <Anson> pav : which reverser doesn't work ? 18:19:46 <Stablean> <pav> it was expanded revers, but only for first train ... for a while, its ok now ... 18:19:46 <Stablean> <Supremacy> and done. all primaries on my island connected :) 18:20:26 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i might fund one just to piss you off :p 18:20:45 <Stablean> <Supremacy> that would be bad :D 18:20:54 <Stablean> <Supremacy> and nice 100 trains 18:22:02 <Stablean> <pav> when you fund industry, its spawn somewhere randomly ? 18:22:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> depends on the servers settings 18:22:12 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah 18:22:27 <Stablean> <KJ> its says prospect, so its random 18:22:30 <Stablean> <Supremacy> when it says prospect for a primary , it spawns random 18:22:36 <Stablean> <Supremacy> ah, beat me to it 18:22:42 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ill spawn 50 18:22:44 <Stablean> <Anson> setting is either costly and a location you select, or cheap and random 18:23:39 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i'd say 111 trains for 6wide non-ro-ro is bit too much :D 18:23:43 <Stablean> <pav> haha, it will be fun to fund 100 industries :) 18:23:56 <Stablean> <Supremacy> and sweetie pee ? :D 18:24:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who did that!? 18:24:28 <Stablean> <Anson> you need to give the number of trains per minute or hour, not otal number on the track 18:24:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> im all for a north / south split at sweetie pie 18:24:34 <Stablean> <nicfer> trolololol 18:25:00 <Stablean> <Supremacy> on this size , its too much.. 18:26:31 <Stablean> <Anson> last game, a maglev station with 6 platforms (non-roro) did around 15-20 trains per minute ... that would be 100 trains in only 5-7 minutes :-) 18:27:19 <Stablean> <Supremacy> i think you get my point............ 18:27:33 <Stablean> <Supremacy> no need for nit picking 18:28:21 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (leaving) 18:29:13 <Stablean> <Anson> no picking ... it only reminds me on an old joke about a coffee filter ... usable for 1000 cups ... one after the other :-) 18:29:27 <Stablean> <Supremacy> :d 18:29:50 <Stablean> <Anson> same for trains ... my station can service 1 million trains ... if the game runs long enough :-) 18:30:12 <Stablean> <KJ> lol 18:30:15 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 18:30:45 <Stablean> <Anson> and the reverse conclusion is that you can't tell whether 6 platforms are good or not, for 100 trains when you don't give the time frame 18:31:11 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 6 platforms seem to do ok so long as the exits are good 18:31:25 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 18:32:09 <Stablean> <Anson> many people only count the trains on the track or network, but that would ignore distances, type, speed, etc ... thus i asked for "trains per minute or hour" 18:35:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thought it was dumb my own HQ was in the way 18:36:21 <Stablean> *** pav joined the game 18:38:40 <Stablean> <pav> Jam time again :) 18:40:14 <Stablean> <Supremacy> anson , i just saw what was before my eyes, a 6 tile wide station servicing 111 trains and a jam... 18:41:48 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> err my money? 18:42:09 <Stablean> *** Mazth has left the game (leaving) 18:42:10 <Stablean> <Supremacy> it seems it went away 18:42:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it seems !? 18:42:18 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 18:42:24 <Stablean> <KJ> deleted water/builed a bad bridge? 18:42:46 <Stablean> <nicfer> who can lend us some money? 18:42:57 <Stablean> <KJ> nope :( 18:43:04 <Stablean> <nicfer> thanks 18:43:06 <Stablean> <Supremacy> np 18:43:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would you like to coop sup? 18:43:23 <Stablean> <Supremacy> going for a little jog in 5 mins 18:43:33 <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe next game, when it's not toyland and is FIRS :D 18:43:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how long in minutes is a game year 18:44:09 <Stablean> <pav> 15 min 18:44:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive been playing for 8.25 hours non stop without food or drink 18:44:46 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i think i need a life 18:44:48 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving) 18:44:50 <Stablean> <KJ> lol 18:44:53 <Stablean> <KJ> :D 18:46:44 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #6 18:48:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 18:58:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who's rebuild sweet jeebuzz exit? 19:00:26 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 19:00:27 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 19:00:30 <Stablean> <KJ> hey 19:00:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> howdy 19:01:29 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #6 19:03:29 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who has 500 mil? 19:03:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> then we could riase that second lake! 19:04:13 <Stablean> <KJ> :P 19:09:11 <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#8) 19:09:11 <Stablean> *** Kyler joined the game 19:09:13 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (received invalid or unexpected packet) 19:09:13 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (connection lost) 19:09:29 <Stablean> *** Kyler joined the game 19:09:33 <Stablean> <Kyler> hey 19:09:35 <Stablean> <KJ> hi 19:09:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 19:09:49 <Stablean> <Kyler> i didnt have internet for the night :( 19:09:55 <Stablean> <Kyler> until now 19:09:57 <Stablean> <KJ> aww 19:10:11 <Stablean> <KJ> i didnt had the time :( 19:10:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that sucks 19:10:25 <Stablean> <Kyler> ya 19:10:53 <Stablean> <Kyler> what is this settng 19:10:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland 19:11:01 <Stablean> <KJ> :D 19:11:19 <Stablean> <Kyler> wow this looks ugly 19:11:29 <Stablean> <Kyler> gotat go 19:11:31 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (leaving) 19:11:39 <Stablean> <KJ> lol 19:11:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> *mop the blood off his eyeballs* 19:11:59 <Stablean> <KJ> been there. done that. 19:12:49 <Stablean> <V453000> seriously 19:12:52 <Stablean> <V453000> you use opengfx 19:12:58 <Stablean> <V453000> what is so eyehurting about toyland 19:12:58 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah 19:13:08 <Stablean> <KJ> the trees! 19:13:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol im alright really 19:13:30 <Stablean> <KJ> well.. not ugly per ce.. but very confusing 19:14:52 <Stablean> <V453000> you dont know what eyehurt is 19:15:06 <Stablean> <KJ> how so? 19:16:14 <Stablean> <V453000> ttd toyland has much more agressive colours 19:16:25 <Stablean> <V453000> it is beautiful but it hurts 19:16:31 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you get used to it.. 19:17:01 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:18:01 <Stablean> <KJ> i found a picture of ttd.. now i just love opensfx 19:19:56 <Stablean> *** Lap joined the game 19:21:03 <Stablean> *** Lap has left the game (leaving) 19:22:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm zombie autopilot 19:22:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but not until the money is 10 mil plus 19:34:04 <Stablean> *** Zennon has left the game (downloading map took too long) 19:34:04 <Stablean> *** Zennon has left the game (connection lost) 19:36:24 <Stablean> <pav> who do reconstruct near Little Bunnbury Mines? Its nice to watch it ... 19:37:32 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 19:47:31 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 19:55:22 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (leaving) 19:59:29 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 19:59:45 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 19:59:49 <Stablean> <KJ> wb 19:59:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i finally ate 20:00:01 <Stablean> <KJ> ^^ 20:00:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i feel much better 20:00:15 <Stablean> <KJ> i can imagine that :P 20:00:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and have cider too 20:00:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> also watching london boulevard with the wife too 20:00:58 <Stablean> <KJ> ill have a 0.5l beer in a minute :D 20:01:12 <Stablean> <KJ> never heard of 20:01:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> colin farrel, keira knightley 20:01:26 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its probably bad 20:01:29 <Stablean> <KJ> :') 20:01:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but she likes the trash 20:01:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and im indifferent 20:02:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that exit for sweet jeebuzz works well whoever did it! 20:02:31 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> going to have to start signing! 20:02:33 <Stablean> <KJ> ^^ 20:02:37 <Stablean> <KJ> it wasnt me:p 20:02:47 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (leaving) 20:03:36 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 20:03:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that's better 20:03:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> increased the sprite cache on my mac and life is playable now 20:04:04 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 20:05:53 <Stablean> <KJ> too bad your life resets every ~2 days :P 20:06:47 <Stablean> <pav> you can save game and continue development ... 20:07:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 20:07:27 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i will save this one i think 20:08:13 <Stablean> <pav> I just tried, choose multiplayer game and load save ... you become server ... 20:08:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it wasnt me 20:09:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> someone added it, maybe nic? 20:19:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> six platforms is enough 20:20:55 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 20:28:15 <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#8) 20:28:17 <Stablean> *** Kyler joined the game 20:28:19 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (received invalid or unexpected packet) 20:28:19 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (connection lost) 20:28:47 <Stablean> *** Kyler joined the game 20:28:51 <Stablean> <Kyler> back 20:29:01 <Stablean> <KJ> hi 20:29:04 <Stablean> <Kyler> hey 20:29:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> welcome back young padawan 20:29:15 <Stablean> <Kyler> .... wow 20:29:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 20:29:35 <Stablean> <KJ> haha 20:29:45 <Stablean> <Kyler> who this the indestries are stupid 20:30:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dude you're playing a game 20:30:06 <Stablean> <Kyler> still 20:30:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's not exactly the pinacle of realism 20:30:14 <Stablean> <Kyler> for excample bubbles 20:30:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> whats stupid about bubbles and cola making fizzies? 20:30:23 <Stablean> <KJ> oh god 20:30:27 <Stablean> <KJ> the complainging Kyler is back 20:30:29 <Stablean> <Kyler> what? 20:30:31 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, bubbles are idiotic 20:30:33 <Stablean> <KJ> one time its oil 20:30:40 <Stablean> <KJ> now its bubbles 20:30:40 <Stablean> <KJ> :D 20:30:50 <Stablean> <Kyler> i never complained about oil 20:30:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> we should come up with a TIRS 20:31:00 <Stablean> <KJ> correction: everything, except oil 20:31:08 <Stablean> <Kyler> not true 20:31:18 <Stablean> <Supremacy> bubble generator seems to lose all its bubbles, but somehow they still end up on my trains.. 20:31:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its like a power station innit 20:31:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its smoke comes out the chimney but the elecrtic still goes somewhere :p 20:31:45 <Stablean> <Kyler> what goes to what 20:31:56 <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm cofused 20:32:08 <Stablean> *** T3K joined the game 20:32:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i cant believe you dont take issue with a candyfloss forest 20:32:18 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> or battery farm ! 20:32:29 <Stablean> <KJ> battery farms are awesome! 20:32:41 <Stablean> <Kyler> ive never played toyland 20:32:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like the industires 20:32:59 <Stablean> <Kyler> and i hate it 20:33:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i was 100% against toyland at 10am this morning, but now i'm all for it 20:33:19 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i still prefer temperate i think 20:33:22 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yea.. i hate it too, but i playedit to end it :D 20:33:40 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah 20:33:46 <Stablean> <KJ> temperate or desert 20:33:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> kyler candey floss gos to sweet factory 20:33:56 <Stablean> <Kyler> its to hilly to build a station 20:33:59 <Stablean> <Supremacy> with FIRS :) 20:34:10 <Stablean> *** T3K has left the game (leaving) 20:34:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> FIRS is good - very complex but good 20:34:14 <Stablean> <KJ> with NUTS ;) 20:34:24 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> next game with FIRS i'm going to all out with the refits 20:34:44 <Stablean> <KJ> :) 20:34:50 <Stablean> <Supremacy> making the complex even more complex.. good for you :D 20:34:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i enjoyed learning them last game 20:34:55 <Stablean> <KJ> you're gonna make refit stations? 20:35:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup 20:35:05 <Stablean> <KJ> cool 20:35:11 <Stablean> <KJ> may i join? :P 20:35:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm in the mood for insanity 20:35:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes 20:35:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> not this round 20:35:19 <Stablean> <KJ> ^^ 20:35:21 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah 20:35:23 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my network isn't setup for it 20:35:31 <Stablean> <KJ> now i need to finish my own mess :P 20:35:34 <Stablean> <Kyler> look at where i'm building and try to find a sweets factory 20:35:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> V showed me a few tricks last night - dont claim to be good or anything 20:35:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> where are you K 20:35:56 <Stablean> <Supremacy> on your island :D 20:36:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> of course he is 20:36:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol 20:36:09 <Stablean> <KJ> :D 20:36:15 <Stablean> <Kyler> Gunningvill candyfloss forest 20:36:25 <Stablean> <KJ> TEH INVASION HAZ BEGON :D 20:36:39 <Stablean> <nicfer> what's up with the jam? 20:36:46 <Stablean> <Kyler> who? 20:36:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> replacing vehicles 20:37:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was working perfectly before that 20:37:24 <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, replacing sucks ... especially when not enough room to build proper depots.. :( 20:37:27 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, i'd recommend finding a less congested area 20:37:33 <Stablean> <KJ> build more depots on your main lines 20:37:41 <Stablean> <Kyler> where do i build? 20:38:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you see the purple network kyler? 20:38:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> prunfingwell 20:38:26 <Stablean> <Kyler> hold on 20:38:26 <Stablean> <nicfer> maybe we should use 2 fast engines 20:38:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why don't you try building a small busy network like that as there's little room? 20:38:38 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> any news trains have dual locos 20:38:46 <Stablean> <Kyler> what city? 20:38:52 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> older are still single, but are slowly getting upgraded when i can be bothered 20:38:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i said &^^^ 20:39:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> prunfingwell 20:39:19 <Stablean> <Kyler> so what do i od 20:39:43 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> start by finding a smallish empty patch with a few primaries you can link to a single industry 20:39:55 <Stablean> <nicfer> I'd make trains with 2 fast locos, ie 2 lokhi actuakky 20:39:55 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR joined the game 20:39:59 <Stablean> <Kyler> ....? 20:39:59 <Stablean> <nicfer> actually* 20:40:09 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lokhi have low HP 20:40:35 <Stablean> <nicfer> two of them 20:40:45 <Stablean> <Kyler> like what inderstroy 20:40:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, what about if i let you have mondworth area 20:41:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive built 4 stations there 20:41:08 <Stablean> <Kyler> k 20:41:14 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR has started a new company (#9) 20:41:34 <Stablean> <Kyler> i see 2 20:41:37 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR has joined spectators 20:41:40 <Stablean> <Kyler> now 0 20:41:42 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive removed mine 20:41:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why dont you make the best network you can there 20:42:03 <Stablean> <Kyler> so do a pasager line 20:42:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> take your clues from the purple network 20:42:08 <Stablean> <Kyler> ?? 20:42:34 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> well there's no point in us doing it for you 20:42:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you'll never learn that way 20:42:54 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> there are two candfloss forests, why dont you link them to the sweet factory to start 20:43:24 <Stablean> <Kyler> look at the 2 stations is that right? 20:43:43 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah 20:43:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes you have built 2 stations 20:43:55 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you see where you're aiming for K 20:44:14 <Stablean> <Kyler> to connect the 2 to go to the same place 20:44:20 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes 20:44:31 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so start with one, get that working and add the second 20:44:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rinse and repeat until you own the map 20:44:47 <Stablean> <Kyler> is there a see throught sencery option? 20:44:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's that simple 20:44:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rl 20:44:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ctrl x 20:45:07 <Stablean> <Kyler> thx 20:45:15 <Stablean> <Supremacy> u don't even need ctrl :) 20:45:37 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i only want trees hidden though 20:45:39 <Stablean> <Kyler> so i make one of then my main line 20:45:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> K, i'd rotate your station by linkme2 by 90 degress 20:45:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> up to you though 20:46:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's fine as is as well 20:46:33 <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing it right? 20:46:35 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're not linking the two pink forests together 20:46:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're linking the pink forests to the sweet factory 20:46:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you see? north of lonburg 20:46:53 <Stablean> <Kyler> i will 20:47:05 <Stablean> <Kyler> oh 20:47:11 <Stablean> <Kyler> didnt see that 20:47:29 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (general timeout) 20:47:29 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (connection lost) 20:47:50 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 20:48:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:48:06 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (connection lost) 20:50:01 <Stablean> <Kyler> ugg i'm stuck 20:50:25 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 8 tile long bridges only 20:50:27 <Stablean> <KJ> may i suggest a route? 20:50:37 <Stablean> <Kyler> i guess 20:51:16 <Stablean> <KJ> like this 20:51:34 <Stablean> <Kyler> tjx 20:52:03 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 20:52:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> looking good Kyler 20:52:16 <Stablean> <KJ> connection probls Krunchy? 20:52:22 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup, on my laptop 20:52:24 <Stablean> <KJ> =[ 20:52:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> can only assume that its the wifi to blame 20:52:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as my desktops been solid for 10 hours 20:52:46 <Stablean> <KJ> :P 20:52:50 <Stablean> <Kyler> i may loose internet all weekend 20:52:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> OH THE HUMANTIY 20:52:58 <Stablean> <Kyler> thx 20:53:13 <Stablean> <Kyler> :) 20:53:31 <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing this right? 20:53:46 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nearly 20:53:54 <Stablean> <Kyler> so its wrong? 20:54:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> only a bit 20:54:06 <Stablean> <Kyler> by what 20:54:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just the signalling mainly 20:54:19 <Stablean> <Supremacy> remember what was said to you last game.. 20:54:33 <Stablean> <Kyler> 2by2 20:54:33 <Stablean> <KJ> i prefer this 20:54:43 <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 way signals........................ 20:54:53 <Stablean> <KJ> this is also good 20:55:11 <Stablean> <Kyler> .... 20:55:13 <Stablean> <Kyler> 20:55:13 <Stablean> <Kyler> 20:55:28 <Stablean> <Kyler> so do i do 2 by 2 singles? 20:56:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dude, look at the train lines just next to here for an example of one way signalling 20:56:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you want one line for inbound 20:56:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and one line for outbound 20:56:31 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if signals both face the same way, how is a train to get in or out? 20:57:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rem 20:57:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> remove the signals you have and start fresh mate 20:57:42 <Stablean> <Kyler> start all over? 20:57:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> READ WHAT WE WROTE 20:57:59 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorry for caps 20:58:05 <Stablean> <Kyler> :( *crying in a corner* 20:58:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just copy the examples 20:58:53 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> remember, ONE track In, ONE track OUT 20:59:24 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (general timeout) 20:59:24 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (connection lost) 20:59:58 <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing this right? 21:00:06 <Stablean> <KJ> double the grey signals 21:00:36 <Stablean> <Kyler> the path ones 21:00:43 <Stablean> <Kyler> ? 21:00:49 <Stablean> <KJ> those arent path, but exit signals 21:01:08 <Stablean> <Kyler> is that right? 21:01:13 <Stablean> <KJ> yeah!:D 21:01:33 <Stablean> <V453000> o/ 21:01:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:01:37 <Stablean> <KJ> hi 21:01:49 <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm about to go swiming can u finish this out kj please 21:01:52 <Stablean> <Kyler> hi V 21:02:08 <Stablean> <KJ> send pass in private, ill in 30 min 21:02:31 <Stablean> <KJ> got to drink beer now :D 21:02:35 <Stablean> <KJ> ok Kyler 21:02:41 <Stablean> <Kyler> k 21:02:51 <Stablean> <KJ> brb.. cya tonight! 21:03:01 <Stablean> <Kyler> k bye 21:03:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:03:08 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (leaving) 21:05:08 <Stablean> *** abcd joined the game 21:05:13 <Stablean> *** abcd has left the game (connection lost) 21:07:36 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 21:07:39 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving) 21:07:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> where did kyler go? 21:07:57 <Stablean> <pav> falite 21:08:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> slod out 21:09:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is there an autoreplace with the ablity to add a second loco? 21:10:39 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 21:10:45 <Stablean> <pav> you can use logistic train, it can transpoer good and later to replace it as second * 21:10:56 <Stablean> <pav> loco 21:25:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Anson: cuningley mines 21:25:25 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how would you do your invisible depots there 21:28:15 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has started a new company (#8) 21:28:17 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach joined the game 21:34:13 <Stablean> <Anson> Kitten, don't you see that i am just building something right where you start building ?????? 21:34:28 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> sorry I didn't see that 21:35:06 <Stablean> <Anson> your straight track ended right in front of my train and you had to take a turn .... 21:35:20 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> okay calm down 21:36:06 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR has joined company #8 21:39:06 <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> lol 21:40:52 <Stablean> <Anson> merging many tracks to few tracks while trains are running ... bad idea :-) 21:41:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so's the opposite 21:41:24 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> upgrading L R to LL RR is a bad idea 21:41:26 <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, when a train is reversed without noticing, a path signal is stuck, etc ... 21:41:30 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just build it better in the first place 21:41:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is my take away from this game 21:41:58 <Stablean> <Anson> build better in the first place ? ... give me more money in 1920 :-) 21:42:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i know what you mean 21:42:15 <V453000> not really just try to make it more expandable 21:42:24 <V453000> LL RR from start is ridiculous 21:42:25 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i didnt leave enough room 21:42:37 <V453000> leave more room then :) 21:42:39 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> at hubs, etc i didnt 21:42:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ^^ thats my main take away 21:43:04 <V453000> big difference :) 21:50:35 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (leaving) 21:52:15 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl joined the game 21:53:15 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 21:54:51 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> in reality, the cola wells would have been maruaded long ago by passers by 21:55:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's cheaper than petrol here 21:55:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> isnt that silly 21:55:45 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> it's usually a rip off 21:56:33 <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> and a toffee quarry, I would be straight in there 21:57:16 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dam, just wasted10 mill clearing some water 22:05:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toy trains have rubber duckies! 22:16:04 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:16:04 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 22:17:01 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 22:18:21 <Stablean> *** Cameron has started a new company (#9) 22:27:00 <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game 22:28:03 <Stablean> <Supremacy> gotta be kidding me... new plastic thingy and batterty farm... 22:28:11 <Stablean> <KJ> oh no :P 22:28:23 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has joined company #5 22:31:01 <Stablean> *** Kittenpeach has left the game (leaving) 22:31:29 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (general timeout) 22:31:29 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 22:37:42 <Stablean> <nicfer> ouch, I've sent all Flanpool Bridge Forest trains to depot 22:37:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nvm 22:38:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i've just set wagons to autoreplace 22:38:12 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 1st gen to 2nd 22:38:19 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i built a few deopts on mainline to help 22:38:42 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> think i could have built a few more 22:46:08 <Stablean> <Anson> i think that most on my net is done for now ... would have to clean some curves and similar, but not expand too much .... 22:46:27 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> there's a ton of primaries left 22:46:30 <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, i will stick to the three resources and candy, but not toys etc 22:46:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ah thats explains 22:47:02 <Stablean> <Supremacy> why not? 22:47:08 <Stablean> <Anson> if someone wants to work on those other resources on my island, feel free to do so :-) 22:47:27 <Stablean> <Anson> but please don't build too tight next to my tracks 22:48:09 <Stablean> <Anson> was online too long ... need to go to the kitchen first, and then to bed :-) 22:48:16 <Stablean> <Anson> CU 22:48:18 <Stablean> <KJ> :P 22:48:20 <Stablean> <KJ> byebye 22:48:23 <Stablean> <Supremacy> bye 22:48:35 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 22:50:42 <Stablean> *** pav has left the game (leaving) 22:51:15 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> not sure LL RR is needed down there? 22:51:36 <Stablean> <KJ> in case of doubt: add rail! 22:51:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> \o/ 22:52:21 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 22:52:23 <Stablean> *** nicfer has started a new company (#10) 22:52:32 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 22:52:44 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 22:52:52 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #10 22:53:04 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 22:53:49 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #10 22:54:01 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 22:58:05 <Stablean> <nicfer> trolololol 22:58:05 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> NO 22:58:08 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ahaha 22:58:11 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> motherF 22:59:41 <Stablean> <KJ> night! 22:59:44 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> gn 22:59:45 <Stablean> *** KJ has left the game (connection lost) 23:00:49 <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR has left the game (connection lost) 23:00:50 <Stablean> <Supremacy> thats some badass deadlock :D 23:00:50 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 23:00:50 <Stablean> *** nicfer has started a new company (#10) 23:00:50 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 23:00:50 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's about as good as i've ever seen tbh 23:01:17 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 23:01:21 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#11) 23:01:25 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 23:01:27 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#12) 23:01:31 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #10 23:01:33 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined spectators 23:01:35 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#13) 23:01:39 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators 23:01:40 <Stablean> *** nicfer has started a new company (#14) 23:01:59 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has joined company #3 23:02:24 <Stablean> <Supremacy> enough for me too . bye 23:02:27 <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving) 23:02:39 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 23:07:14 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:07:42 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:07:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 23:08:29 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> will this map still be here in 12 hours? 23:08:32 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going to bed 23:08:55 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes it will 23:09:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it will run till at least 2050 yes? 23:09:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes in till that yer 23:10:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol the operating profit graph is interesting 23:10:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 23:10:41 <Stablean> *** Kyler joined the game 23:10:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> performance rating really took a hit then too 23:11:04 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my company value is pants 23:11:04 <Stablean> <Kyler> whap happened to my comp 23:11:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is that just because my bank balance is low 23:11:17 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you left, it went BOOM 23:11:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> it mite 23:11:29 <Stablean> <Kyler> i told kj to take care of it 23:11:39 <Stablean> <Kyler> because i was swiming 23:11:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> he was to let 23:12:07 <Stablean> <Kyler> he went to get beer 23:12:13 <Stablean> <Kyler> and i left 23:12:27 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i saw duff in the supermarket today 23:12:31 <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm going to have to set this out 23:12:37 <Stablean> <Kyler> :( 23:12:40 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, you havn't lost much 23:12:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice 23:12:49 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just start again wont take you 3 mins 23:12:56 <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#10) 23:13:07 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just try it on your own, and then we'll feedback afterwards yeah? 23:13:14 <Stablean> <Kyler> k 23:13:32 <Stablean> <Kyler> what acceps cola 23:13:54 <Stablean> <Kyler> never mind 23:13:56 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you should learn how to find stuff like that out for yourself 23:14:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but fizzy drink factory 23:14:21 <Stablean> <Kyler> ok :( 23:14:41 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you know how ? 23:15:01 <Stablean> <Kyler> i dont want to now 23:15:15 <Stablean> <Kyler> is 35 batteries good? 23:16:37 <Stablean> <Kyler> jezz there is no where to build 23:16:57 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what about near flonninghall 23:17:00 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the bottom of the red island 23:17:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Anson: said he was done 23:17:49 <Stablean> <Kyler> i may not have internet for the weekend 23:17:50 <Stablean> <Kyler> :( 23:18:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i wonder sometimes whether you even read the answers people give you K 23:18:40 <Stablean> <Kyler> i do i'm just a fast typer and a fast reader 23:19:06 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> then you must respond some fast i miss it 23:19:13 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> *some = so 23:19:48 <Stablean> <Kyler> sorry :( 23:20:18 <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm just sittting thsi one out 23:20:34 <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (leaving) 23:20:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorry to be rude but he gets my temper up, you try and help but he just dont listen 23:23:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i thinke kyler is to yun to play opern ttd on line 23:23:47 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> im just going to ignore him from now - i know we're supposed to be friendly but his attitude is just awful 23:24:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 23:24:45 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why is your name happy? 23:24:51 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i mean its a good name 23:25:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep becos i am all ways happy 23:25:54 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 23:25:58 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> :) 23:26:25 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (general timeout) 23:26:25 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 23:27:03 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 23:27:20 <Stablean> <nicfer> internet went down 23:27:28 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3 23:28:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i love your tran neterk krunchy 23:28:14 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nicfer has a lot to answeer for 23:28:28 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he's fixed all my mistakes and doubled a LOT 23:28:34 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 23:28:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep looks good 23:29:03 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's grown pretty organically too tbh 23:29:21 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i mean it's started as single then gradually got doubled throughout 23:29:33 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as nicfer fixes one problem i create another ;P 23:29:43 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 23:35:49 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:35:49 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 23:42:01 <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> goodnight all 23:42:05 <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (leaving) 23:48:33 *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:48:41 <BiG_MeEcH> hi hi 23:48:44 <BiG_MeEcH> !players 23:48:47 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1535 (Dark Blue) is nicfer, in company 3 (KrunchyAl Transport) 23:48:47 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1293 is Anson, a spectator 23:48:47 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1334 (Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 6 (happy tran sport Transport) 23:48:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi big meech 23:48:55 <BiG_MeEcH> hello Happy Transport 23:50:04 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 23:52:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how thnigs big meech 23:55:06 *** KrunchyAl has quit IRC 23:57:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> got to make my tran trake beter