Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 31st July 2012:
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00:11:32  <Stablean> <Cameron> wb
00:11:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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00:18:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
00:29:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
00:29:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Delayed welcome :P
00:29:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
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00:35:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
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00:43:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shit
00:43:40  <Stablean> <Cameron> lol
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00:45:07  <Stablean> <Cameron> ?
00:45:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
00:45:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
00:45:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
00:45:58  <Stablean> <Cameron> sad face
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00:46:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
00:54:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
00:54:15  <Stablean> <Cameron> again sad face
00:54:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Its nearly 2am
00:54:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I need sleep :D
00:54:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> GN
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00:54:39  <Stablean> <Cameron> night
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01:05:05  <Stablean> <Cameron> wb
01:05:24  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Cameron.
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01:21:18  <Stablean> <Phillip> lllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggg
01:21:26  <Stablean> <Phillip> "lag"
01:21:36  <Stablean> <Cameron> :)
01:21:44  <Stablean> <Cameron> been suffering too
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01:56:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> u on phillip?
01:59:13  <Stablean> <Diablo> thanks for finishing off the new tracks
02:01:44  <Stablean> <Phillip> YES
02:01:56  <Stablean> <Phillip> well just got on
02:02:22  <Stablean> <Phillip> you're welcome Diablo.
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02:02:42  <Stablean> <Diablo> whats up with the vote?
02:03:05  <Stablean> <Phillip> To see if people would agree on a new map.
02:03:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> u are against
02:03:34  <Stablean> <Phillip> I think so. I also think that Dom made it up.
02:03:45  <Stablean> <Diablo> done in white
02:03:51  <Stablean> <Phillip> I want this map to stay a bit longer.
02:04:26  <Stablean> <Diablo> the last map reset in about 2189
02:05:08  <Stablean> <Phillip> No map ever made to 2200. (When I started playing here is when I kept track).
02:05:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> why did i lose connection at the end of last game?
02:06:14  <Stablean> <Phillip> Because you didn't have the new NUTS.
02:06:20  <Stablean> <Phillip> Tat happened to me too.
02:06:24  <Stablean> <Phillip> That*
02:06:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> te "new" NUTS?
02:07:06  <Stablean> <Phillip> Did we have version 0.2.3 in the last game?
02:07:24  <Stablean> <Diablo> brb
02:08:50  <Stablean> <Diablo> i downloaded the updates on 29/7
02:12:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> Anson told me to add that 2nd exit track at Kentburg yesterday
02:13:07  <Stablean> <Phillip> that's basiclly useless
02:13:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> i know
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03:19:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> wb
03:31:14  <Stablean> <Diablo> bbl
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04:54:24  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
04:54:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi
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04:56:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> bye
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07:58:39  <Stablean> <Cameron> wb
07:58:44  <Stablean> <Dom> hey :)
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10:56:24  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> hi
10:56:26  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> !players
10:56:30  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcHiEsT: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:56:35  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> =O
10:56:37  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> !date
10:56:39  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcHiEsT:  4 Dec 2194
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11:02:10  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> hi
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11:37:05  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> hi
11:37:22  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
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12:00:58  <Stablean> <Dom> hi [FR]Syl59
12:01:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi Dom
12:01:43  <Stablean> <Dom> BNH needs trains :D
12:01:59  <Stablean> <Dom> xDD yep :D
12:02:47  <Stablean> <Dom> and mfh xD
12:03:42  <Stablean> <Dom> for?
12:03:52  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
12:04:15  <Stablean> <Dom> oh and i grew NMF a bit yesterday
12:04:25  <Stablean> <Dom> and now i am growing metro islands
12:04:43  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Every station need trains !! xD
12:04:50  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
12:05:16  <Stablean> <Dom> let's make 1k trains our goal :D
12:05:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> The network will be too small :'(
12:05:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> may *
12:06:02  <Stablean> <Dom> we will see :D
12:06:09  <Stablean> <Dom> or maybe 600 trains :D
12:06:35  <Stablean> <Dom> the network will be expanded today
12:06:41  <Stablean> <Dom> to twl
12:07:03  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Which need trains too
12:07:10  <Stablean> <Dom> btw what do you think of metro islands :D
12:07:42  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I will see that later ine the game :D
12:08:25  <Stablean> <Dom> sfp jamming
12:08:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh btw, BNH metro have got 20K hp xDDDDDD
12:08:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> understood
12:08:43  <Stablean> <Dom> 20k?
12:08:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> 20 000
12:08:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Er ... well
12:09:01  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
12:09:03  <Stablean> <Dom> nice :D:DD
12:09:25  <Stablean> <Dom> bnh is gonna get huge :D
12:09:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Must extand the exit of SNH
12:12:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Er ... well
12:12:24  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
12:12:40  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I absolutly don't know how to modify the exit of SPH
12:12:54  <Stablean> <Dom> sph?
12:13:08  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> SFP*
12:13:18  <Stablean> <Dom> well yeah it needs LL-RR
12:13:37  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> If you can do it, I call you mister xD
12:13:49  <Stablean> <Dom> to lazy xD
12:13:56  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> roh :D
12:16:39  <Stablean> <Dom> thats gonna get hard without water tfXD
12:22:21  <Stablean> <Dom> boooooooooooooooooooooom
12:22:23  <Stablean> <Dom> brb
12:22:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Lol ok :)
12:37:16  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> hi
12:37:19  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi
12:37:24  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> * tickles
12:37:30  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Go France!
12:37:33  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> xD
12:38:08  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ^^
12:38:21  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Bon performance, non?! =D
12:38:34  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I don't know that TTD was included in the Olympic game in London
12:38:48  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Oh, it is, you should go for the gold
12:38:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh oui, 3 médailles rien que dans la natation, on est pas mal. On a même battu l'amérique xD
12:39:22  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I can read all of that except im not sure what meme battu is
12:39:33  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What ? xD
12:39:43  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> ' même battu '
12:39:48  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I can't read that
12:39:51  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Ah, c'était concernant lr relais 4100m
12:40:03  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Oh, oui!
12:40:14  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hum ... problem with the accent maybe
12:40:16  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Tres excitement!
12:40:24  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> lol
12:40:27  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> anyways
12:40:37  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> back to english before my brain breaks
12:40:40  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> excitement doesn't exit btw
12:40:46  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> aaah
12:40:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> you can replace with exitement
12:40:53  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I figured, thats why I quit
12:40:56  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> lol
12:40:56  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> or excatement
12:41:01  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Oh, right
12:41:03  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> been a while
12:41:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Xd ok :)
12:41:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> How are you btw ?
12:41:17  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> last studied french like 10 years ago
12:41:26  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> fine, but busy as heck, no time for OTTD
12:41:51  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> should be less busy in a few weeks
12:41:57  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> then maybe i can sit down and enjoy a game
12:42:53  <Stablean> <Dom> im back :D
12:44:17  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> yayyyyyyyy
12:44:22  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> no go away again
12:44:24  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> xD
12:44:26  <Stablean> <Dom>  :D
12:44:31  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> =D
12:44:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh no...  not him xD
12:44:43  <Stablean> <Dom> meechie have you seen phelps loose?
12:44:45  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well, problem solved xD
12:44:47  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
12:44:48  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I know, troublemaker!
12:44:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> He saw that xD
12:45:05  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
12:45:09  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Phelps has no drive, he doesnt have to prove anything to anyone
12:45:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> On érait en train de parler de ça il y a peu
12:45:18  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> And hes 4 years older and slow
12:45:29  <Stablean> <Dom> true that :)
12:46:33  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Think i might go back to bed for an hour or two here
12:46:55  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> woke up way too early xD, I was hoping olympic coverage was on but it wasnt
12:47:15  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What time is it in USA ?
12:47:25  <Stablean> <Dom> it is on :D
12:47:26  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> almost 9am, but got up at 5am.
12:47:29  <Stablean> <Dom> all the time
12:47:34  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Not on regular TV, Dom
12:47:53  <Stablean> <Dom> it is
12:47:55  <Stablean> <Dom> eurosport :D
12:47:57  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Just crappy normal news
12:47:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> It's like tractor pulling Dom :)
12:48:09  <Stablean> <Dom> bbc sport , and and and
12:48:26  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> They show stupid stuff during the day too, like water polo. nobody wants to watch that. I wanna watch running and track and shit
12:48:50  <Stablean> <Dom> true
12:49:04  <Stablean> <Dom> im watching wild water rowign thingy right now :D
12:49:19  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> sweet
12:49:27  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I always hope for a drowning
12:51:48  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> alright guys, hjave a good one, will catch you later =D
12:51:57  <Stablean> <Dom> ok n8 :D
12:52:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Good night x
12:52:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> D
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14:55:07  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> sup
14:55:22  <Stablean> <ACM> Hey.
14:55:29  <Stablean> <Dom> hey
14:56:31  <Stablean> <Dom> damn LL-RR
15:00:02  <Stablean> <ACM> I can't remeber. Is there supposed to be an advantage to using electric rail MUs over the monorail ones?
15:00:08  <Stablean> <ACM> Because I now I don't see one.
15:00:41  <Stablean> <Dom> electric have the most capacity
15:00:48  <Stablean> <Dom> mag hast the lowest but is the fastest
15:01:31  <Stablean> <ACM> I'm talking about the local MUs.
15:01:42  <Stablean> <Dom> locals need to be fast
15:02:03  <Stablean> <Dom> but have a good capacity
15:02:09  <Stablean> <Dom> that's why mono
15:02:17  <Stablean> <ACM> Right now, electric rail MUs give you a whole 10 extra passengers per non-engine wagon.
15:02:27  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
15:02:37  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> whats MU ?:D
15:02:53  <Stablean> <ACM> MU = Multiple unit.
15:03:14  <Stablean> <ACM> But the accelleration is too crippling.
15:03:20  <Stablean> <Dom> on what?
15:03:26  <Stablean> <ACM> On rails.
15:03:48  <Stablean> <Dom> our e-engines are quite fast and have a good accel
15:04:07  <Stablean> <ACM> Which ones are you talking about? Your high speed ones?
15:04:14  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
15:04:24  <Stablean> <ACM> Well I wasn't talking about those.
15:04:26  <Stablean> <Dom> locals suck i know
15:04:53  <Stablean> <Dom> i had them refitted yesterday to e-engine  huge mistake xDD now they are back on mono
15:05:48  <Stablean> <Dom> -.-"
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15:33:56  <Stablean> <Dom> gtgo
15:33:58  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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15:49:01  <Stablean> <Dom> hi [FR]Syl59
15:49:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hi Dom
15:49:21  <Stablean> <Dom> i expanded the LL RR @ SFP a bit
15:49:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> How the things are going ?
15:49:25  <Stablean> <Dom> but its not finished
15:49:35  <Stablean> <Dom> yet
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15:50:39  <Stablean> <Dom> hi MrD2DG
15:50:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hihi
15:50:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi MrD2DG
15:50:49  <Stablean> <Dom> come to SFP
15:50:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im there :P
15:51:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I am at SFP already
15:51:07  <Stablean> <Dom> how could this be finished?
15:51:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What?
15:51:23  <Stablean> <Dom> LL RR
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15:51:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Isnt it done?
15:51:39  <Stablean> <Dom> not yet
15:51:49  <Stablean> <Dom> LL RR has to go to TWL
15:52:07  <Stablean> <Dom> that means a MSH @ Lontford BNH
15:52:10  <Stablean> <Dom> awell
15:52:32  <Stablean> <Dom> *aswell
15:52:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Umm is the line really that busy
15:52:52  <Stablean> <Dom> look at the pax
15:52:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LR seems to be working fine @ TWL
15:53:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Agree
15:53:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I guess but the problem with the pax (same @ TWL yesterday) is that we dont have enough stations to send them to
15:53:26  <Stablean> <Dom> and gph?
15:53:32  <Stablean> <Dom> and bnh
15:53:44  <Stablean> <Dom> bnh will be getting full
15:54:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm
15:54:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> i'm more a freight player so ... :)
15:55:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Networking is still the same
15:55:09  <Stablean> <Dom> ^yep
15:55:21  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> managing the network is not the same I think
15:55:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Does managing exist btw , ^^'
15:55:34  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ? *
15:55:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol I guess
15:55:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its very similar i'd say just that cargo is more constant
15:55:56  <Stablean> <Dom> atleast we need to connect sign to here  and sign last part
15:56:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
15:56:16  <Stablean> <Dom> oh btw slovenija got gold :D:D:D
15:56:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:56:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> where is "!here" ?
15:56:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> to here
15:56:56  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol
15:57:02  <Stablean> <Dom> yep :D
15:57:08  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> its THERE
15:57:14  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> obv....
15:57:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Found it finnaly
15:57:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and hem ...
15:57:33  <Stablean> <Dom> if we can connect those 2 than there wouldn't be so much stress at gph
15:57:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Water terraforming , xDDD
15:57:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why so much CL2 everywhere :/
15:58:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ML trains cant travel at full speed @ CL2
15:58:10  <Stablean> <Dom> well we could do water tf but i think we shouldn't and couldn't xD
15:58:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im talking about @ !here
15:58:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No water in sight :P
15:58:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> and !me2
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15:58:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Easy :P
15:59:03  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Better ? :)
15:59:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:59:51  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> better ? :)
15:59:53  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
15:59:55  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
16:00:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep But that area needs proper platform choosing
16:00:16  <Stablean> <Dom> we neeed to tf 2 tiles xD
16:00:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Dom, wait please
16:00:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The eastern merge only has 1 tunnel to go through
16:00:22  <Stablean> <Dom> 3 xD
16:00:26  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I've got an idea
16:00:28  <Stablean> <Dom> i know
16:00:30  <Stablean> <Dom> no space xD
16:00:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:00:50  <Stablean> <Dom> you mean the one under the bridge?=
16:01:08  <Stablean> <Dom> ah @ !here
16:01:14  <Stablean> <Dom> ok yes no space :D
16:01:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shift everything to the right?
16:01:34  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
16:01:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only the tunnels under last part sign might be a problem
16:01:56  <Stablean> <Dom> idk we can change the local route
16:02:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
16:02:18  <Stablean> <Dom> but why are they a problem?
16:02:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think TST should just be incorporated into SFP metro
16:02:36  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
16:03:15  <Stablean> <Dom> yes some1 could do that *looking around* :D
16:03:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Im doing somethign else atm
16:03:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But ill try after
16:03:44  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
16:04:02  <Stablean> <Dom> because im going to mow the lawn in 5 mins xD
16:04:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:04:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well ...
16:04:39  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
16:04:45  <Stablean> <Dom> servus :D
16:04:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hallo Anson
16:04:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
16:05:18  <Stablean> <Anson> pax games seem to be endless games, for at least 4 times the duration of cargo games !?
16:05:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:05:34  <Stablean> <Dom> well that's why a started a vote :D
16:07:48  <Stablean> <Dom> you will need to move the tunnels xD or bridge it xD
16:08:02  <Stablean> <Dom> anyways im gone
16:08:02  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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16:08:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
16:11:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
16:11:21  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I need some help at "Temp" please
16:11:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> oh ok
16:12:50  <Stablean> <Anson> about the vote : i probably should be doing some RL business during the next few days, and niothing much to do in thos game for me ... thus I'll just wait what happens
16:14:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Back
16:14:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You need help?
16:14:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yep
16:14:38  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> at Temp, for loacl engine
16:14:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh dont worry about that
16:14:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I need another bridge
16:14:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im gonna make the whole system a metro
16:14:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> and remove that local line
16:15:09  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> So you think i'ts finished like that ?
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16:15:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill be removing it anyway to its fine for now
16:15:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Ok
16:23:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i still don't get it what people are chosing as "goal" ... for cargo it is to deliver something longdistance on a big network ... but for pax, i simply don't see what people are doing, besides building some stations and connecting something with something else
16:23:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why do you need a goal?
16:23:57  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> people are cargo too
16:24:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Network improvement is a perfect reason to continue playing IMO
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16:25:37  <Stablean> <Anson> to improve something, you need to have SOME kind of "goal" ... even if it is "look nice" or anything else ... but i just don't see it
16:26:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There is plenty to be imporved in this network IMO, so thats the 'goal'
16:26:42  <V453000> it is basically the same as any cargo game, with the difference that you have to make the "primaries" (towns) grow
16:26:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
16:27:00  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> and its all one network
16:27:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont see why people act like PAX games are so totally different
16:27:12  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> rather than different bits for industries
16:27:16  <V453000> I do see that
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16:27:23  <V453000> with pax you have many options how to do it
16:27:31  <V453000> which nobody tells you
16:27:35  <V453000> with industries it is clear
16:27:39  <V453000> primary -> drop, done
16:27:51  <V453000> with pax you suddenly dont know where should what go
16:28:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well I mean if someone becomes confused by all the oppotunities they could always do a simple point-point like with cargo
16:28:04  <Stablean> <V453000> also hi :)
16:28:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi :P
16:28:23  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
16:28:34  <Stablean> <V453000> but most people dont do that, idk why
16:28:52  <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand
16:29:02  <Stablean> <V453000> in my opinion making all -> 1 drop networks is a bit boring :)
16:29:04  <Stablean> <V453000> BUT
16:29:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I agree
16:29:16  <Stablean> <V453000> for pax I think the main focus should always be on the towns
16:29:26  <Stablean> <V453000> so making such simple network for pax makes a whole lot of sense to me
16:29:29  <Stablean> <V453000> just to focus on town network
16:29:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True
16:29:45  <Stablean> <V453000> which is why I also support SML usage in pax games a lot
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16:30:09  <Stablean> <V453000> SML is dumb, simple and easy to do, and basically limitless in throughput
16:30:09  <Stablean> <Anson>  ... should i connect every town with every other town ? impossible ... or make long distance transports only ? ... and how can/may i get people from a town ?
16:30:11  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly what you need
16:30:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Jesus, why over-analyse
16:30:31  <Stablean> <V453000> that is exactly the question which opens all the possibilities Anson
16:30:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Use common sense?
16:30:32  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> sml?
16:30:45  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi V
16:30:49  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
16:31:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only way to learn which way works best for you is to try them all
16:31:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just like with cargo
16:31:24  <Stablean> <V453000> generally, connect what you want with what you want, you can have various reasons what to connect. For example you have 2 stations with most cargo, so you add more trains there.
16:31:28  <Stablean> <V453000> or many other reasons
16:31:35  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> whats sml
16:31:45  <Stablean> <Anson> as one "goal", i might try to build a multilevel network like metry>local>ice, but then i am missing the end : metro>local>ice>local>metro :-) and it is too hard (at least for me) to build sich a network before towns have grown and i earn money, and then the landscape is already fuull of towns
16:31:45  <Stablean> <V453000> @@sml
16:31:46  <Webster> sml: Shift Main Line, see also:
16:32:17  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> <sigh>..........<alt-tab>
16:32:43  <Stablean> <V453000> that multilevel or .. bidirectional transfer I would call it is possible
16:32:51  <Stablean> <V453000> but rather pointless and overly complicated
16:34:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i just see all those nice metros of the white company, traveling around towns and collecting people to a loval transfer
16:34:39  <Stablean> <Anson> looks nice, but also looks boring when it is done to 40 toens ...
16:34:49  <Stablean> <Anson> ...40 towns
16:35:59  <Stablean> <Anson> and when it is allowed to use station spread, it looks rather pointless to me too, to collect people from 4 small stations instead of building a bigger station in the centre and a few non-rail station tiles around it, to cover the same area
16:36:46  <Stablean> <V453000> station walking isnt allowed
16:36:52  <Stablean> <V453000> in towns particularly scoffed at
16:37:30  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> just read the sml thing
16:37:48  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> thats supposed to be the simplified one lol......i will never get all this stuff you guys do
16:38:14  <Stablean> <Anson> when this map began, i had asked about it, and was told that it would be allowed to use the station spread to collect people from several areas in town
16:40:24  <Stablean> <Anson> what about the two buioldings at my signs "!illegal?" ??
16:47:59  <Stablean> <Anson> those two buildings shouldn't have been built ? .... maybe for pax games, "advanced settings > stations > allow joining stations not directly adjacent" should be set to OFF (or people should treat it as off; more clearly stated in the rules, for n00bs :-)
16:48:33  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> walking a station gives me a dirty feeling deep inside my soul
16:51:40  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i think the term "station walking" comes from TTD or TTDP, where you couldn't CTRL-build sttaions at any place but really had to build auxiliary truck/bus stations adjacent to each other and then delete them again
16:52:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that in towns, that method would require destroying lots of houses and thus trouble with authorities :-)
16:58:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Faaaack
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17:36:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> HIHI
17:37:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
17:40:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I see one issue with the flip flop
17:40:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We have a flip-flop?
17:40:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes check TWL
17:41:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
17:41:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats where those train with no order spam messages keep coming from :/
17:43:05  <Stablean> <Anson> 90 degree corners are allowed in tghis game ???????
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17:53:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh people fucking up groups :/
17:55:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BNH now has proper LL_RR connection
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18:08:01  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yay
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18:18:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I get a feeling someone TFed some water
18:18:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
18:18:14  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> where
18:18:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The budget agrees
18:18:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:18:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was it worth it MrD2DG?
18:18:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Haha depends where it is :P
18:18:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We dont need money anyway
18:18:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
18:19:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am not sure where is was
18:19:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Meh
18:20:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when I see some of the noob errors in our MLs I laugh
18:20:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The grouping make me CRY
18:20:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its not hard :/
18:20:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> cry baby
18:20:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Random shit everywhere
18:20:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:25:33  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
18:25:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
18:25:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I have a major problem with balancing train stats
18:25:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what is up mr V453000?
18:25:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What did you do to NUTS :s
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18:26:12  <Stablean> <V453000> at the current moment mono local compared to rail local 9 is just funny comparison
18:26:14  <Stablean> <V453000> mono local stronger in everything
18:26:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Huh mono local is shit
18:26:31  <Stablean> <V453000> curves, speed, acceleration, capacity is alsmost identical or higher
18:26:41  <Stablean> <V453000> you are using mono local
18:26:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:26:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> doesnt carry nearly as much as rail
18:26:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im not
18:26:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are
18:27:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I changed the most recent metros I did back to rail :)
18:27:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SFP
18:27:10  <Stablean> <V453000> but then after mono local there is rail local 8 (the high capacity one) which is able to do quite well. rail local 7 is also quite fine
18:27:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you noob
18:27:18  <Stablean> <V453000> but rail local 9 is completely broken
18:27:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> mono is better
18:27:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *faster
18:27:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 480 pax 131 mph and CL2
18:27:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> rail is 100mph 530 pax and CL3
18:27:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> mono wins
18:27:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt think speed was an issue there tbh
18:27:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still dont
18:27:55  <Stablean> <V453000> the trains at SFP are the worst
18:27:59  <Stablean> <V453000> and a big problem
18:28:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Capacity is and that place is still overloaded
18:28:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who ruined the netro station
18:28:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
18:28:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *metro
18:28:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> me
18:28:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to get 2 more ML lines
18:28:51  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> hi Boof
18:28:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Dad
18:28:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I deleted the local for a reason :/
18:29:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what reason MrD2DG?
18:29:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I move those 2 platforms round the back
18:29:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh you didnt rebuild the local
18:29:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The sign wasnt cnahged
18:29:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:30:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still that is fugly :P
18:30:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I changed the Local entrance
18:30:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and added 2 more ML platforms
18:30:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> more the Metro
18:30:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont think those 2 extra ML platforms are gonna help the 27k pax much :P
18:30:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and then hacked in a PAX catcher
18:30:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not much but every little helps
18:31:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> (I am not tesco)
18:31:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:31:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And V what do you mean those trains are the worst
18:31:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The accel is really shit but i needed more capacity
18:31:36  <Stablean> <V453000> they have less capacity than mono
18:31:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What
18:31:44  <Stablean> <V453000> accel is shit
18:31:46  <Stablean> <V453000> speed is lower
18:31:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
18:31:53  <Stablean> <V453000> cl is 3 not 2
18:31:53  <Stablean> <V453000> everything bad
18:31:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No they dont
18:31:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: the Morphogenesis is better
18:32:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They have more capacity than mono
18:32:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (of same length)
18:32:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hardly
18:32:16  <Stablean> <V453000> they do
18:32:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 40 more pax
18:32:24  <Stablean> <V453000> but normally you would require to at least double engine them
18:32:30  <Stablean> <V453000> to be usabel at all
18:32:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for the speed loss/ acceleration loss
18:32:35  <Stablean> <V453000> which makes less pax
18:32:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mhhhm
18:32:42  <Stablean> <V453000> just horrible atm
18:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> and idk what to do with it
18:32:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BOOST.
18:33:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> EVERYTHING. :)
18:33:07  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt so simple
18:33:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and end up with 2cc?
18:33:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anyway they look nicer than mono atm
18:33:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
18:33:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:33:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they look nicer but are worse
18:33:38  <Stablean> <V453000> thing is, you have the big comparison atm between timewave zero, and mono
18:33:48  <Stablean> <V453000> these are more or less of same effectiveness atm
18:34:11  <Stablean> <V453000> but then the other rail guys get weaker and rail local 9 is totally weak
18:34:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what happened to the Nyan?
18:34:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oooh shit didnt see timewave
18:34:38  <Stablean> <V453000> which is rather silly because the difference in stats isnt that huge
18:34:53  <Stablean> <V453000> so I think first thing is reduce the difference
18:34:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did you burn the cat V453000?
18:35:05  <Stablean> <V453000> more or less
18:35:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:35:15  <Stablean> <V453000> it is in the set still
18:35:20  <Stablean> <V453000> but you wont be able to buy it
18:35:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can win it XD
18:35:45  <Stablean> <V453000> well you could make an override newgrf to make it available
18:36:03  <Stablean> <V453000> but ... :)
18:36:26  <Stablean> <V453000> it is there just for the compatibility
18:36:48  <Stablean> <V453000> oh, btw
18:36:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> are all the old sprites / stats still there for compatability?
18:36:56  <Stablean> <V453000> all rail local trains have the same length of accel now
18:37:06  <Stablean> <V453000> yes they have to be
18:37:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I could be evil and replace the sprites
18:37:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
18:37:47  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway MrD2DG try the timewave zero :)
18:37:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I feel an override GRF coming on for old big wagons
18:37:57  <Stablean> <V453000> or even Morphogenesis is good
18:38:11  <Stablean> <V453000> old big wagons?
18:38:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes the bigger capacity old wagons
18:38:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill try now :P
18:38:26  <Stablean> <V453000> ah
18:38:26  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
18:38:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> before you made them smaller
18:39:00  <Stablean> <V453000> idk if maglev with 24 is a good thing either
18:39:28  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev is respectably strong, if not strongest, has good accelerations, and almost immune to cl issues
18:39:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> OMG ACCEL IS SLOW
18:39:56  <Stablean> <V453000> and its a fucking maglev so it is good :)
18:40:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> double them MrD2DG
18:40:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> CBF
18:40:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ^
18:40:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> back to monorail it is then
18:40:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Might as well just use intercities :/
18:40:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:40:51  <Stablean> <V453000> a lot lower capacity :)
18:40:57  <Stablean> <V453000> try them
18:41:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
18:41:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what does :/ mean?
18:41:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> It means :/
18:41:34  <Stablean> <V453000> "fuck you guys"
18:41:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
18:41:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :S
18:41:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
18:41:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> D:
18:42:04  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess I could gimp mono local
18:42:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: down to 9k now at SPF XD
18:42:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh jesus dont
18:42:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
18:42:45  <Stablean> <V453000> instant acceleration for single headed trains is wrong
18:42:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think locals should be strong enough to be used without doubling
18:43:09  <Stablean> <V453000> you can use them without doubling if you dont need acceleration :)
18:43:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But they suck too much
18:43:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cargo train logic = HEADACHE with PAX
18:43:39  <Stablean> <V453000> no you just have a fucking deadlock
18:43:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
18:44:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why are they being serviced
18:44:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ARGH MONO
18:44:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
18:44:31  <Stablean> <V453000> the acceleration isnt THAT bad
18:44:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its shit
18:44:42  <Stablean> <V453000> they are slow in general
18:44:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Takes ages to get to 75mph
18:44:56  <Stablean> <V453000> if ages means 6 tiles...
18:45:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
18:45:20  <Stablean> <V453000> double them :>
18:45:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And have 10 capacity NTY
18:45:41  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
18:45:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I believe locos should never have to be doubled :)
18:45:53  <Stablean> <V453000> the capacity is still good
18:45:56  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
18:46:11  <Stablean> <V453000> they dont HAVE to :D
18:46:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> With with those stats they do :/
18:46:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> V = Metro Killer.
18:46:42  <Stablean> <V453000> stfu bitch you have mono local (so far) :D
18:46:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
18:46:54  <Stablean> <V453000> but not for long ^^
18:47:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait is that good or bad
18:47:16  <Stablean> <V453000> good for the set bad for you
18:47:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maglev loco would be disgusting, too fast :P
18:47:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shit.
18:48:33  <Stablean> <V453000> in fact mono local should be weaker than rail in raw power
18:48:39  <Stablean> <V453000> due to the tilt bonus
18:48:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
18:48:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What
18:48:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just no
18:48:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> give rail tilt bonus
18:49:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or make rail better
18:49:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Stop cargo-logic'ing my pax trains :(
18:49:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> mono is fine
18:49:20  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> Go Czech Repubic!
18:49:26  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> +l
18:49:31  <Chris_Booth> what?
18:49:42  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> repubic sounds like your crotch
18:49:53  <Chris_Booth> why are you not chanting U S A... U S A.. U S A
18:50:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol USA suck
18:50:05  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> b/c Im tring to get bonus points with V453000
18:50:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
18:50:16  <Stablean> <V453000> rcon ban meech
18:50:18  <Stablean> <V453000> bonus point
18:50:20  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> LMAO
18:50:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:50:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: doesn't do bonus point
18:50:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> he just does - points
18:50:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Like QI
18:50:37  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> then I should get some
18:52:11  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> =D
18:52:18  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> anyhoo, back to work =D
18:52:21  <Chris_Booth> BiG_MeEcHiEsT: is a terrorist
18:52:28  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> omg
18:52:29  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> LOL
18:52:42  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> dont joke about that
18:52:54  <Chris_Booth> who said I was joking?
18:53:21  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> =P
18:53:30  <Chris_Booth> you are DA BOMB
18:53:32  <Chris_Booth>  XD
18:53:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nooo
18:53:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TOWN KILLEr
18:54:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I am
18:54:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I was going to do that just without the extra straight bit :P
18:54:56  <Stablean> <V453000> I will just make an adjustment from both sides
18:55:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
18:55:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
18:55:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why are we using uni rail?
18:55:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just make rail better
18:55:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its so UGLY
18:55:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> IM mono is fine
18:55:29  <Stablean> <V453000> accelerating instantly with one engine is not fine
18:55:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you ruin monorail V453000 I will be upset
18:55:42  <Stablean> <V453000> and to make strong better it would be just terrible
18:55:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is fine
18:56:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> make the mono slightly more heavy then
18:56:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> NONONONONO
18:56:20  <Stablean> <V453000> that is the same as reducing acceleration
18:56:34  <Stablean> <V453000> I also thought about making then slower
18:56:44  <Stablean> <V453000> which would make them even less vulnerable to cl
18:56:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will allow you to make it 1t heavier or 1hp weaker
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18:56:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> XD
18:57:30  <V453000> @clcalc mono tilt 1
18:57:30  <Webster> V453000: A monorail Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 158.4km/h or 99.0mph
18:57:59  <Stablean> <V453000> that is also an option
18:58:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 100 mph is fine
18:58:51  <Stablean> <V453000> that could work
18:59:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait what
19:00:04  <Stablean> <V453000> 158kmh for monorail, raillocal8 (hich capacity one) stats kept, rail local 7 slight increase in capacity and rail local 9 slight increase in capacity and increase in power
19:00:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What the hell is 158kmh, I only do mph :P
19:00:41  <Stablean> <V453000> monorail gets even more comfortable to use with CL1 and even better acceleration
19:00:41  <Stablean> <V453000> 99
19:00:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats fine i guess
19:01:01  <Stablean> <V453000> but rail locals will be able to make good competition to them
19:01:19  <Stablean> <V453000> in total, mono local would make its use mainly in ghetto networks
19:01:29  <Stablean> <V453000> and rail would be for bigger transfers most likely
19:01:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lmao
19:01:55  <Stablean> <V453000> well ghetto style is quite a thing in pax games :)
19:01:58  <Stablean> <V453000> messbahn ftw
19:02:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:02:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:02:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I always like the mess bahn
19:02:25  <Stablean> <V453000> so the advantage with such style is quite huge
19:02:35  <Stablean> <V453000> but if you dont build that kind of network it isnt as useful
19:02:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> none of this perfect bahn shit
19:02:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
19:03:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: I will say one thing that the Mono intercity and maglev intercity are bad
19:03:27  <Stablean> <Anson> i need to improve a town rating ... how ?  (typical question from a pax n00b)
19:03:33  <Stablean> <V453000> I might also want to make monorails recolourable :))
19:03:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I agree with CB
19:03:50  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
19:03:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> USE TREES?
19:04:04  <Stablean> <V453000> they for sure are weaker, at least atm
19:04:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we wanted to use the monorail or maglev but rail was the only one that worked
19:04:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PAX is a form of cargo...
19:04:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is capacity more than anything
19:04:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maglev is disgusting
19:04:26  <Stablean> <Anson> at Plefingford, i built an Sbahn, but i need to destroy 2 houses for connecting it
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19:04:28  <Stablean> <V453000> yes rail is a lot stronger
19:04:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they need better loading speed or higher capacity
19:04:56  <Stablean> <Anson> look at that island ... maybe 10 free tiles only, and i already planted trees
19:05:14  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev has already gotten a large capacity boost
19:05:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Start a bit of the network partially anson to get a rating up
19:05:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Might take a while
19:06:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i did ... in 2 hours, it JUST went from appalling to very poor, still not good enough
19:06:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
19:06:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats the only solution I think
19:07:10  <Stablean> <Anson> problem is also that one station is unused and reduces the rating ... but when i delete it to improve rating faster, i will destroy rating again when rebuilding the station
19:07:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Make a temp station @ bridge sign and make a temp route?
19:07:44  <Stablean> <Anson> someone else might destroy the houses :-) but that would be "cheating" ...
19:08:02  <Stablean> <Anson> i am not allowed to build stations
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19:08:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
19:08:22  <Stablean> <Dom> hello :D
19:08:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
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19:08:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh god it is Dom
19:08:34  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
19:08:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Dom
19:08:47  <Stablean> <Dom> hi chris :D
19:09:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I fixed some of your LL_RR Dom
19:09:17  <Stablean> <Dom> ok thanks :)
19:09:23  <Stablean> <Dom> how are things going?
19:09:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ And I made TST a metro
19:09:25  <Stablean> <Anson> i already put down some strange signaling to service two stations there :-) thanks to the bridge, i can now add another
19:09:33  <Stablean> <Dom> i saw that nice :D
19:09:53  <Stablean> <Dom> wow anson nice island :D
19:10:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I could always destroy the houses for you anson
19:10:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But that woudl be cheating :P
19:10:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how would it MrD2DG?
19:11:02  <Stablean> <Anson> THANKS
19:11:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I deleted them for you Anson
19:11:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because it was done for him, dont get me wrong i wouldn't care but some people like to do things the proper way...
19:11:38  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 3
19:11:38  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 403km/h or 251mph
19:11:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you bride is road not rail Anson
19:11:41  <V453000> hmm
19:11:45  <Stablean> <Anson> the subway station is only a joke
19:11:46  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 4
19:11:46  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 470km/h or 293mph
19:12:02  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 7
19:12:03  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 7 (capped at 13 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 556km/h or 347mph
19:12:24  <V453000> k tilt wont hurt anything
19:12:31  <Stablean> <Anson> referring to some talk we had yesterday, that it would be nice to build a tile overgriund which is attached to a station one level deeper, and connects to a tunmel :-)
19:13:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I like our network now
19:14:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Me too
19:14:19  <Stablean> <Dom> ^ what he said :D
19:14:25  <Stablean> <Dom> btw NMF got a bit bigger :)
19:14:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TBH I find the town metros and locals more interesting that the main stations
19:14:45  <Stablean> <V453000> that is the point of the pax game isnt it
19:14:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh NMF needs trains
19:15:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SFP-NMF?
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19:15:18  <Stablean> <Dom> sure
19:15:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I was thinking about spliting SFP
19:15:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Kool ill add some
19:15:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> DONT HURT SFP
19:15:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> even though it makes sense :P
19:15:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just remove half the metro
19:16:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TBH MFH qualifies for its own main station
19:16:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But I CBF
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19:16:39  <Stablean> <King Peky> Hi
19:16:45  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
19:16:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:17:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: I think MrD2DG want to be banned as he CBF :P
19:17:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:17:49  <Stablean> <V453000> could ban you as well for suggesting evil
19:17:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
19:17:54  <Stablean> <V453000> 2 birds with 1 stone
19:18:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maybe we should bring datbridge back and use as a local for DHM :P
19:18:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Pffft I am nto banworthy
19:18:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *not
19:18:24  <Stablean> <V453000> CB said it.
19:18:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> CB has been banned multiple times :P
19:18:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Noone trusts a criminal
19:19:54  <Stablean> <Dom> but dont forget when makinng mfh main , sfp will loose pax
19:20:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> SFP has loads
19:20:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh hes actually doign it :P
19:20:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SFP will probably loose over half of its pax
19:20:21  <Stablean> <Dom> yes because its local to mfh
19:20:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Station is gonna lock up
19:20:39  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
19:21:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Datbridge is aliver again!!!
19:21:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *alive
19:21:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shit
19:21:13  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
19:21:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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19:23:31  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks again for the two bombs ... i am already poor now :-)
19:24:02  <Stablean> <Anson> even mediocre now
19:27:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm gotta go
19:27:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
19:28:07  <Stablean> <V453000> if I hate anything then it is train capacity tweaking
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19:31:48  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 3
19:31:49  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 403km/h or 251mph
19:34:19  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm
19:34:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MFH is ready
19:34:31  <Stablean> <Dom> i saw :-D
19:34:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I think I will completely redo stats for mono and maglev
19:34:44  <Stablean> <V453000> and swap them
19:34:53  <Stablean> <V453000> for pax that is
19:35:15  <Stablean> <Dom> make maglev have more capacity
19:35:16  <Stablean> <Dom> *to
19:35:38  <Stablean> <V453000> that isnt the only problem
19:35:38  <Stablean> <V453000> their raw power is lacking but ... okay.
19:35:38  <Stablean> <V453000> if I fix that, they will be just the same as monorail is
19:35:47  <Stablean> <Dom> yep aswell as local electric
19:37:03  <Stablean> <V453000> CL susceptibility is about the same, acceleration is similar and speed ... high, k
19:37:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> laggg
19:37:05  <Stablean> <V453000> what I think about doing is to make maglev slower/have more capacity than monorail. And give them tilt
19:37:05  <Stablean> <Dom> what's tilt?
19:37:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 20% curve bonus
19:37:05  <Stablean> <V453000> ^
19:37:05  <Stablean> <Dom> ok and what does it?
19:37:11  <Stablean> <Dom> brb
19:37:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what Ijust said
19:37:38  <Stablean> <V453000> which would basically mean that rail is what it is, a standard ice. Monorail would be 600kmh fast but worse capacity and pretty bad behavior on curves. And maglev would be utility for low CL pax networks
19:37:57  <Stablean> <V453000> something like shinkansens are
19:40:27  <Stablean> <Anson> in reality, what is faster, mono or mag ? ... mono can be magnetic too, but mostly is a special rail train (thus slower than mag) !?
19:40:41  <Stablean> <V453000> idk that is completely aside the point
19:40:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> mono and maglev are the same thing essentialy
19:41:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> akf
19:41:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk
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19:42:24  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : when it comes to running costs, mono and maglev both are electric (in contrast to steam and diesel). is that intended ? can prices be adjusted for any engines besides dteam/diesel/elect ?
19:42:39  <Stablean> <V453000> ...
19:42:44  <Stablean> <V453000> how do running costs matter at all
19:43:03  <Stablean> <Anson> there are parameters in basecosts mod :-)
19:43:25  <Stablean> <V453000> allowing ships is also a parameter in settings
19:43:31  <Stablean> <V453000> about the same relevance
19:43:31  <Stablean> <Anson> recently, we had several games with electric normal costs, steam half and diesel double
19:43:50  <Stablean> <V453000> yes this game probably has it as well in fact
19:44:00  <Stablean> <V453000> it is good with other newGRFs
19:44:19  <Stablean> <V453000> but you dont really care if your 1400 per train per year doubles or halves in NUTS
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19:45:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
19:46:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Chris
19:46:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> join my company if you wish
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19:46:50  <Stablean> <Dom> so im back
19:46:53  <Stablean> <Dom> hey troy#
19:46:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Dom
19:47:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you guys delete some of the SFP trains
19:47:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and add some ML trains to MFH?
19:47:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> SFP would be the metro trains?
19:48:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no the ML trains that are queuing
19:48:54  <Stablean> <V453000> hi troy :)
19:48:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> doesn't have to be specific one kind of train?
19:48:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi V
19:49:03  <Stablean> <V453000> CB want shinkansen-ish trains? :P
19:49:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: could be fun
19:50:01  <Stablean> <V453000> mainly a difference in usage
19:50:15  <Stablean> <V453000> if I boost both mono and mag, how do you decide what to use
19:50:18  <Stablean> <V453000> both are suddenly good, and do basically the same thing
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20:09:21  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev tilt 1
20:09:21  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 211km/h or 131mph
20:18:48  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 3
20:18:48  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 403km/h or 251mph
20:18:52  <V453000> @clcalc maglev tilt 2
20:18:52  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 2 (3 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 316km/h or 197mph
20:20:58  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev tilt 4
20:20:58  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 470km/h or 293mph
20:24:34  <Chris_Booth> @clcal maglev titl
20:24:45  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev tilt 8
20:24:47  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of 8 (capped at 13 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 556km/h or 347mph
20:24:56  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev tilt 9
20:24:56  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of 9 (capped at 13 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of 556km/h or 347mph
20:26:22  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev 1
20:26:22  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles) gives a speed of 176km/h or 110mph
20:31:08  <V453000> will be CL3
20:31:25  <V453000> but CL2 will also be available
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20:49:12  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc maglev tilt -9
20:49:12  <Webster> Chris_Booth: A maglev Curve Length of -9 (-19 half tiles), with tilt bonus, gives a speed of -1901km/h or -1189mph
20:49:14  <Chris_Booth> lol
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20:59:31  <V453000> nice
20:59:46  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
20:59:54  <V453000> the clcalc
21:04:47  <Stablean> <Dom> ich auch :D
21:04:54  <Stablean> <Dom> eurosport :D
21:05:16  <Stablean> <Dom> wie die deutschen die 1 medaille gewannen :D
21:05:26  <Stablean> <Dom> ups xD
21:05:38  <V453000> lol :D
21:05:53  <V453000> new feature: maglev trains have same speed for ice and cargo
21:06:22  <Stablean> <Dom> nice :D next map cargo again? :D with high speed trains :D
21:07:08  <V453000> cargo trains are unchangd
21:07:10  <V453000> ged
21:07:41  <Stablean> <Dom> oh that means slower ice trains?
21:07:57  <V453000> on maglev, yes
21:08:11  <V453000> to be exact monorail trains are on maglev now
21:08:12  <V453000> and vice versa
21:08:59  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah you said that :)  it's gonna be again a new version of nuts?
21:09:20  <V453000> of course what else :)
21:09:39  <V453000> the pax trains need to be sorted out somehow
21:09:51  <Stablean> <Dom> how do you mean?
21:10:13  <V453000> the pax train stats are not as good as they could/should be
21:10:21  <V453000> so I need to make them better -> needs new versions
21:10:47  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
21:10:54  <Stablean> <Dom> good
21:10:57  <Stablean> <Dom> can't wait :D
21:13:22  <V453000> oh and there will probably be a lot of bugs :>
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21:14:47  <DomDom> well that's normal, but that's why we can test it :D
21:15:55  <Chris_Booth> so new pax map?
21:16:17  <Stablean> <Dom> now?
21:16:47  <Chris_Booth> guess not since V453000 is still coding
21:24:36  <Stablean> <Dom> make 2 :D
21:37:39  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> v453000 smells funny
21:37:57  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
21:38:00  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
21:40:44  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> ;)
21:41:37  <Stablean> <Dom> meech you watching basketball?
21:41:47  <Stablean> <Dom> usa-tunesia
21:42:35  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> nah, gonna eat dinner
21:42:43  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> besides News is on at 5-6:30pm here
21:43:20  <Stablean> <Dom> oh ok :D you would laugh if you would see it, the small tunesian guy xD between many black people xDD
21:44:35  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> lol
21:44:39  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> USA should win most of their games
21:44:43  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> if they dont, theyre stupid
21:44:54  <Stablean> <Dom> they are winning basketball
21:45:13  <Stablean> <Dom> for the rest well idc aslong as they do not get the most medals :D
21:45:36  <Stablean> <Dom> *idk
21:46:21  <Stablean> <Dom> goo slovenija xD :D:D
21:49:14  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> I meant just USA basketball ,they are th team to beat
21:49:23  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> kobe should prove he still has ' it '
21:49:34  <Stablean> <Dom> he isn't playin alot now
21:49:35  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> if not he should retire from Lakers
21:49:50  <Stablean> <Dom> but yeah they do not look like if they were loosing :D
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21:50:01  <Stablean> <Dom> he was in for a short time and made 10 points
21:50:07  <Stablean> <Dom> it's 39
21:50:11  <Chris_Booth> USA just destroyed in the swimming
21:50:23  <Stablean> <Dom> indeed they did
21:50:38  <Chris_Booth> BiG_MeEcH what is up with the name?
21:51:46  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> just pit iest at the end :P
21:51:58  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> * put
21:52:03  <BiG_MeEcHiEsT> still same old meechie-pie xD
21:54:51  <Stablean> <Dom> Anson:  how is bridging going?
21:55:29  <Stablean> <Anson> still thinking about how to do it without destroying half the town
21:55:59  <Stablean> <Dom> destroy the magley in plefingford
21:56:53  <Stablean> <Dom> look at sign here
21:57:15  <Stablean> <Dom> and then to sign !hier
21:57:21  <Stablean> <Anson> plef valley ... yes, but were shall the track go ? tunnel, underground ?
21:57:55  <Stablean> <Dom> no just make 2 3 tile or 2 4 tile stations 2 bridges and on the other side another station :D
21:58:14  <Stablean> <Dom> that feeds grunfingford woods
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22:01:48  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the sign where i ask "!illegal?" at grunfingford ... that is part of the station and when i extend the station to the right, everything has to be rebuilt
22:02:07  <Stablean> <Dom> true
22:02:21  <Stablean> <Dom> that's why i showed you a new possible location
22:02:37  <Stablean> <Dom> and you can put the bridge somewhere else
22:03:27  <Stablean> <Anson> new possible location ? a station at !hier ? ... and then connect it with trains to grunf ???
22:03:45  <Stablean> <Dom> make it aswell grunfingford woods
22:03:59  <Stablean> <Dom> so you do not need buses or other trains
22:04:14  <Stablean> <Dom> just island - grunf..
22:05:18  <Stablean> <Dom> btw you had luck with that island :D i wanted to colonise this one, but was thinking how to :D
22:08:30  <Stablean> <Anson> as i understood, i should place an extendion of Grunf Woods station to its east side, next to sign !hier ?
22:09:05  <Stablean> <Dom> something like that yeah
22:09:34  <Stablean> <Anson> max width with the current station is marked by signs
22:10:13  <Stablean> <Dom> or transport them with trams from 2 stations or something idk make a subway
22:12:52  <Stablean> <Dom> then try to put almost next to the station
22:15:32  <Stablean> <Anson> i could remove the road and a few houses between grunfwoods and the edge of the map
22:15:47  <Stablean> <Anson> and then send the trains directly there
22:16:33  <Stablean> <Dom> not directly but a second station that is thesame as grunfingford woods ,, a ghost
22:19:28  <Stablean> <Anson> just tried putting a platform there ... not possible either without rebuilding everything
22:20:35  <Stablean> <Dom> then  put the hotel ghost a bit nearer to the station so you can make 2 station tiles
22:20:49  <Stablean> <Dom> on the street with a bust station for example
22:22:16  <Stablean> <Dom> not the hotel on the road...
22:22:22  <Stablean> <Dom> but a bus station
22:22:28  <Stablean> <Dom> does the same thing...
22:23:02  <Stablean> <Anson> 4 tiles between road and south edge of island ... thus hotel on the road if i want to cover everything
22:23:20  <Stablean> <Dom> then put it there
22:23:22  <Stablean> <Anson> eroadstops cover only 3 tiles, rail stations 4
22:23:54  <Stablean> <Dom> btw yourbus stations ( grunfingford hal,transfer, east dont' do anything)
22:24:20  <Stablean> <Dom> i made you the space
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22:27:50  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... the town is fast ... already built something new :-)
22:28:16  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
22:29:15  <Stablean> <Dom> ...
22:31:31  <Stablean> <Dom> it worked :D
22:36:30  <Stablean> <Dom> make tl 3 or 4 max
22:36:33  <Stablean> <Anson> next problem : how to connect plef valley to the noth end of the island ? even when moving it soth by a few tiles
22:37:04  <Stablean> <Dom> i would get rid of it ..
22:37:15  <Stablean> <Anson> or remove it completely and build a nw station in the north, with two metro rings supplying the pax from the two towns ?
22:37:17  <Stablean> <Dom> and make a station where the bridges are
22:37:24  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
22:37:26  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
22:38:14  <Stablean> <Anson> now a few buses will get lost :-)
22:42:30  <Stablean> <Dom> do you need me to delete something?=
22:43:24  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks, but my standing is still excellent :-)
22:43:47  <Stablean> <Dom> anyways im gonna go
22:43:53  <Stablean> <Dom> n8
22:43:53  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
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23:25:19  <Stablean> <Cameron> whoops

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