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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 16th December 2012:
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04:34:02  <BiG_MeEcH> hi!
04:34:03  <BiG_MeEcH> !date
04:34:03  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: 18 Jan 2241
04:34:10  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
04:34:13  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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07:34:04  <Stablean> <chester> hi Diablo
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08:41:26  <chester_> Sturmi: do you see Sylf is kicked because of slow cpu?
08:41:42  <chester_> so is Diablo before
08:43:22  <Sturmi> i just crawled out of bed, so i dont see much ;)
08:44:24  <chester_> good morning. yesterday you asked me what is my patch for
08:45:04  <Sturmi> yea, i guess the game is just so big that processing it on a slow cpu takes a while
08:45:22  <chester_> many of us cant play at this stage of the game. now it is possible
08:46:37  <Sturmi> but i wonder what makes the game so big, the train count is not that large
08:47:44  <chester_> it tries to run smoothly rendering every frame, when it fails, frames stacking finally leading to overflow
08:48:16  <chester_> i made it skip every even frame
08:48:19  <Sturmi> know that... what i mean is something else
08:49:47  <Sturmi> my (right from the stonage) machine could run public server game 246(?) with 3000 trains smoothly, but not this little game
08:50:20  <chester_> with the same newgrf/settings?
08:50:34  <Sturmi> totally different game tho
08:50:52  <Sturmi> but i could compare teh grfs
08:51:05  <chester_> idk pbs have 1 company, hereare 15
08:51:35  <Sturmi> i get the same issues on recent PSG's too
08:54:27  <chester_> the more companies - the more orderlists, maybe thereare more different orderlists recently
08:54:35  <chester_> not shared
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08:55:08  <chester_> what your cpu is?
08:56:07  <Stablean> <Sturmi> mine?core2duo E6600
08:56:18  <Stablean> <Sturmi> soon six years old
08:57:07  <chester_> almost the same as mine, amd brisbane 4200+, a core @2100
08:57:48  <Stablean> <Sturmi> when i run youtube on second screen this game is ultralaggy
08:59:06  <chester_> i do the same, nothing changed, ottd+youtube
08:59:51  <Stablean> <Sturmi> could be a server issue too
09:01:01  <chester_> hardly possible, it has no graph, also, ppl with modern cpu play normally here
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09:02:57  <Sturmi> well, i've read similar complaints from people with more powerful computers
09:03:58  <Sturmi> and one guy on PS said something about serverside issue (dont remember the words)
09:05:33  <chester_> that happened here couple of times
09:05:55  <chester_> it was not server but datacenter issues
09:06:05  <Sturmi> possible too
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09:18:10  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hi
09:18:12  <Stablean> <chester> hi
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09:18:30  <Stablean> <blackii7> hey
09:18:37  <Stablean> <chester> hi
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09:26:34  <chester_> 1 more low-end cpu
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09:30:45  <Sturmi> i believe its something either with the server or with the grfs
09:31:13  <chester_> definitely not server since hereare 3 of us playing
09:31:31  <Stablean> <blackii7> what is the problem?
09:31:32  <Sturmi> as the problems currently exist on all the coop servers
09:31:49  <chester_> i think they exist on every server
09:31:52  <planetmaker> doesn't it exist on other servers?
09:32:07  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
09:32:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'happy tran sport Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 2013927637  Loan: 0  Value: 2014388027  (T:152, R:10, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(Orange) Company Name: 'Martinos Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 3965508549  Loan: 0  Value: 3966277987  (T:292, R:7, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Dark Blue) Company Name: 'Mindmelt Engineering'  Year Founded: 1934  Money: 47465145  Loan: 400000  Value: 47079837  (T:9, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Pink) Company Name: 'Dom Transport'  Year Founded: 1935  Money: 387070271  Loan: 0  Value: 387473850  (T:76, R:2, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'Breningville Transport'  Year Founded: 1936  Money: 1337174834  Loan: 0  Value: 1337530256  (T:104, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:08  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 10 more messages
09:32:19  <planetmaker> (sorry, I just joined, did not yet read back much)
09:32:26  <planetmaker> !more
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:6(Yellow) Company Name: 'saint Transport'  Year Founded: 1946  Money: 2420233301  Loan: 0  Value: 2420867351  (T:156, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:7(Mauve) Company Name: 'Jam35 Transport'  Year Founded: 1952  Money: 624488766  Loan: 500000  Value: 624114042  (T:46, R:4, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:8(Brown) Company Name: 'chester Transport'  Year Founded: 1953  Money: 6573734222  Loan: 0  Value: 6575652788  (T:265, R:3, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:9(Blue) Company Name: 'Talib + Surfer'  Year Founded: 2044  Money: 285746091  Loan: 0  Value: 285895813  (T:50, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:10(Cream) Company Name: 'Cherubim Transport'  Year Founded: 1965  Money: 926781320  Loan: 0  Value: 927254038  (T:44, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:26  <Sturmi> pm: i only saw these lags on recent coop games
09:32:26  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 5 more messages
09:32:30  <planetmaker> !more
09:32:30  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:11(Pale Green) Company Name: 'davis Transport'  Year Founded: 1968  Money: 414877374  Loan: 0  Value: 415032694  (T:45, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:30  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:12(White) Company Name: 'Diablo Transport'  Year Founded: 1981  Money: 80753268  Loan: 0  Value: 80785908  (T:9, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:30  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:13(Purple) Company Name: 'Dixon296 Transport'  Year Founded: 2005  Money: 540068877  Loan: 0  Value: 541338291  (T:127, R:4, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:30  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:14(Dark Green) Company Name: 'Noc Transport'  Year Founded: 2147  Money: 11789726  Loan: 500000  Value: 11318596  (T:2, R:6, P:0, S:0) unprotected
09:32:30  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:15(Light Blue) Company Name: 'Mazth Transport'  Year Founded: 2032  Money: 111761177  Loan: 0  Value: 111807043  (T:15, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
09:32:43  <planetmaker> Well. This game has quite a few trains, too...
09:33:04  <planetmaker> @calc 15+2+127+9+45+44+50+265+46+156+104+76+9+292+152
09:33:04  <Webster> planetmaker: 1392
09:33:09  <Sturmi> psg 246 with 3k trains ran smoothly
09:33:12  <planetmaker> it has 1392 trains as of now
09:33:33  <chester_> Sturmi: these lags happen every game when vehicles>1200
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09:33:42  <chester_> for me
09:33:49  <planetmaker> And it depends on map size. On NewGRFs maybe. On which base set you use (32bpp needs more power than 8bpp)
09:33:56  <chester_> ooops, cpu
09:34:05  <Sturmi> i use original gfx
09:34:17  <planetmaker> whether you zoom in or out, whether you have full animation enabled or not
09:34:51  <Sturmi> idint change the settings between those games
09:35:16  <chester_> pm: did you see my pathed game yesterday?
09:36:19  <planetmaker> I didn't see anything the last two weeks. I just returned from a business trip, sorry
09:36:50  <planetmaker> what about that game?
09:37:18  <planetmaker> in this... no heavy industry set. But maybe NUTS needs cpu as the town set... not sure w/o profiling. Which... I can't be bothered now :-)
09:37:21  <chester_> i made it skip every even frame for all vehicles
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09:38:56  <planetmaker> so, I guess also loads of vehicles on a possibly huge map?
09:40:00  <chester_> i couldnt join this game for 2 days, after about year 2100
09:40:18  <chester_> now i can join and play
09:40:46  <planetmaker> oh, so you tempered with the drawing code? :-)
09:40:52  <chester_> yes
09:41:07  <planetmaker> yeah, it easily eats loads of cpu
09:42:05  <planetmaker> if it works, you probably did the right thing. It's easy to cut out too much... and get desyncs, though
09:42:12  <chester_> with a hint from frosch123, you can see youself http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html for winXP 32
09:42:13  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
09:42:38  <planetmaker> that's the source or binary?
09:42:43  <chester_> bin
09:42:50  <planetmaker> I can't test windows binaries. But thanks :-)
09:43:04  <chester_> can compile?
09:43:13  <planetmaker> sure. All but windows :D
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09:43:47  <planetmaker> couldn't yet be bothered to setup a cross-compiler to create windows binaries
09:44:07  <planetmaker> though it's installed... but not yet tested, thus likely won't work yet
09:44:25  <chester_> vehicle_base.h, find inline void UpdateViewport(bool force_update, bool update_delta)
09:44:25  <chester_> 	{
09:44:25  <chester_> 		if (tick_counter & 2) return; // SKIP FRAMES FOR VEHICLES
09:44:25  <chester_> 		extern void VehicleUpdateViewport(Vehicle *v, bool dirty);
09:45:49  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> do you guys know if and when there will be a new game on this server?
09:46:20  <chester_> when there will be >3000 trains
09:46:32  <chester_> this is for testing purposes you know..
09:47:05  <planetmaker> hehe, nice, chester :-)
09:47:06  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what are you testing?
09:47:20  <planetmaker> what do we test here, chester?
09:48:26  <chester_> actually there were many players requested restart
09:48:32  <chester_> pm  can you?
09:49:50  <planetmaker> I can. But it needs a map which I could load :-)
09:50:13  <planetmaker> Create a good starting map, provide me with the URL and I'll load it
09:50:28  <planetmaker> just mind bananas-only newgrfs, preferentially
09:50:49  <chester_> no i never created maps
09:51:03  <planetmaker> Good time to start :D
09:51:35  <planetmaker> check settings for being sane. Select NewGRFs, De-select AIs. Create random map. Save. Upload :-)
09:51:40  <planetmaker> that's my workflow for it
09:54:10  <chester_> recent games i played were nice, balanced nars+trs and nuts
09:54:25  <chester_> i cant make the same
10:00:51  <planetmaker> Did you read V's recent blogpost? http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/10/16/creating-maps/
10:03:27  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> my game is not running fluently ...
10:03:49  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> because of the inet connection? or the millions of trains?
10:03:51  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> any idea?
10:04:14  <planetmaker> The latter
10:04:24  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> latter?
10:04:30  <planetmaker> check your cpu load. If it's higher than 1/(num cores), it's cpu
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10:07:17  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> how can i optimize the performance
10:08:31  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> 2.1 Ghz CDualcore and 4GB RAM
10:09:25  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> shouldn't that be enough ?
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10:31:52  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> re hi
10:32:40  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mh is there any way to like minimize the grafik or something
10:33:04  <Stablean> <chester> yes
10:33:10  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> how
10:33:32  <Stablean> <chester>  http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
10:33:33  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
10:34:04  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i figured, that the performance lack is only on this server ... maybe its because of the number of traings on here?
10:34:14  <Stablean> <chester> yes
10:34:28  <Stablean> <chester> download and replace your openttd.exe
10:34:36  <Stablean> <chester> oh wait
10:34:42  <Stablean> <chester> whats your system
10:34:49  <Stablean> <chester> os
10:35:28  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> os = Win7 64bit
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10:37:25  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i'm loosing connection all the time ... can you tell me at some other server?
10:38:19  <Stablean> <chester> this server is good, i also had these problems until yesterday
10:38:50  <Stablean> <chester> im on winXP 32, if you can run 32bit win?
10:38:56  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> the link dnot work
10:39:10  <Stablean> <chester> http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
10:39:11  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
10:39:18  <Stablean> <chester> it should
10:39:20  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> no i cannot
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10:42:46  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> can you come to a different server
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10:44:18  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> test
10:44:30  <Stablean> <chester> dont join companies
10:44:36  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> can you explain it to me on a different server because i get kicked
10:44:42  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i am not joining ^
10:44:45  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> link works
10:44:53  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what does this different ottd.exe?
10:44:56  <Stablean> <chester> this link is for 32bit openttd
10:45:15  <Stablean> <chester> it shouldnt work for you
10:45:21  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> :(
10:45:27  <Stablean> <chester> oh wait
10:45:38  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what does it fix?
10:45:52  <Stablean> <chester> you actually can run 32-bit openttd
10:46:28  <Stablean> <chester> download 32-bit openttd and replace openttd.exe with mine
10:46:50  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what does yours do different?
10:47:01  <Stablean> <chester> it works!
10:47:08  <Stablean> <chester> im playing now
10:47:23  <Stablean> <chester> couldnt even connect because of low cpu
10:47:37  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> lol i belive you but i'm just curious what is the difference between yours and the regular one
10:47:40  <Stablean> <chester> it does 2 things
10:47:42  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> where did you get it from?
10:47:52  <Stablean> <chester> i have compiled myself yesterday
10:48:30  <Stablean> <chester> it skipp every even frame for every vehicle
10:48:44  <Stablean> <chester> and removes showing cash on arrival
10:48:50  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> meaning the "jump"
10:48:52  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
10:49:16  <Stablean> <chester> it runs smoothly enough, i can play without problem
10:49:21  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i'll try and will be back shortly
10:49:25  <Stablean> <chester> ok im waiting
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10:49:54  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> back
10:50:00  <Stablean> <chester> new one?
10:50:02  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes
10:50:04  <Stablean> <chester> try
10:50:14  <Stablean> <chester> join
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10:50:35  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ahhhhhh NICE :)
10:50:38  <Stablean> <chester> YEAH
10:50:56  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so the problem is the many cash-messages?
10:51:00  <Stablean> <chester> yesterday i was happy too
10:51:22  <Stablean> <chester> no, i just removed them first, didnt know what was the problem
10:51:34  <Stablean> <chester> then added skipping
10:53:04  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok but if i watch the trains i can actually see the skipping ^^ but that doesn't matter ... playing is the important thing
10:53:06  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> thanks a lot
10:53:25  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and i didn't need to re-install i just replaced the ottd.exe
10:53:35  <Stablean> <chester> ah, ok then
10:54:06  <Stablean> <chester> i didnt know all other files are shared between all versions
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11:12:16  <Stablean> <chester> Jam suffers from this too
11:12:27  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> must be the many trains
11:12:45  <Stablean> <chester> what your cpu is?
11:12:55  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mine is 2x2.1 Ghz
11:13:05  <Stablean> <chester> so is mine
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11:13:51  <Stablean> <chester> i couldnt join for 2 days until yesterday
11:16:25  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i think my main station is reaching its limits :(
11:17:46  <Stablean> <chester> why not maglevs, their loading speed is faster
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11:18:02  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hi Dixion
11:18:22  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> uhm i dunno .. would be a hell of work to change every train to maglev ^
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11:18:54  <Stablean> <chester> why, just upgrade rails to universal and then autoreplace engine and wagons
11:19:12  <Stablean> <chester> see? he cant join too
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11:19:24  <Stablean> <chester> join spectators
11:19:30  <Stablean> <chester> let him talk
11:19:54  <Stablean> <chester> Surfer, join spectators
11:19:56  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
11:20:00  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea
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11:20:06  <Stablean> <chester> Dixon
11:20:08  <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats better
11:20:11  <Stablean> <chester> if you want to play
11:20:13  <Stablean> <chester> http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
11:20:13  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> lol
11:20:14  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
11:20:37  <Stablean> <chester> replace your original openttd.exe
11:22:11  <Stablean> <Dixon296> its my connection chester
11:22:25  <Stablean> <chester> its your cpu, since game says so
11:23:07  <Stablean> <chester> look, you can talk to us, but if game runs i'll be kicked
11:23:13  <Stablean> <Dixon296> lets try game mode on my booster then
11:23:19  <Stablean> <chester> i'll show
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11:24:11  <Stablean> <chester> die
11:24:18  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> lol
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11:24:38  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i had the same issue
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11:25:40  <Stablean> <chester> see?
11:25:55  <Stablean> <Dixon296> we need a new game then
11:26:03  <Stablean> <chester> no
11:26:08  <Stablean> <chester> http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
11:26:09  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
11:26:12  <Stablean> <chester> try this
11:26:26  <Stablean> <Dixon296> whats  it do?
11:26:30  <Stablean> <chester> it works!
11:26:40  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> keep your original ottd.exe ... ora copy of it
11:26:42  <Stablean> <chester> Surfer and i can play now
11:27:00  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> it skips every second train-grafik or something
11:27:14  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so the cpu usage drops and it's playable again
11:27:25  <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk i try
11:27:39  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> you see the difference but only if you look at it close the trains "jump" every second tile
11:27:49  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> keep your old exe for regular playing
11:28:04  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but with so many trains on here you relly need it ^^
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11:28:54  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  all
11:28:56  <Stablean> <chester> happy may also need this
11:29:07  <Stablean> <chester> happy if you ged disconnected try this
11:29:09  <Stablean> <chester> http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
11:29:10  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
11:29:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok  thanks
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11:29:54  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> should we start again?
11:29:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi    jam
11:30:08  <Stablean> <chester> jam want a new exe?
11:30:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> Hi HT
11:30:16  <Stablean> <chester> lets run!
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11:30:38  <Stablean> <chester> get prepared
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11:31:06  <Jam35__> gah
11:31:13  <Stablean> <chester> see?
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11:32:09  <Stablean> <chester> happy is a diehard
11:32:29  <Stablean> <chester> what your cpu is happy?
11:32:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem  dont  no
11:32:50  <Jam35__> I've definitely been able to stay connected with more trains than this
11:33:16  <Stablean> <chester> NUTS maybe or other newGRF
11:33:30  <Stablean> <chester> these trains are fast
11:33:56  <Stablean> <chester> 300+kmh mono, 400+kmh maglevs
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11:34:53  <Jam35__> !players
11:34:55  <Stablean> Jam35__: Client 754 (Brown) is chester, in company 8 (chester Transport)
11:34:56  <Stablean> Jam35__: Client 795 is Surfer2010, a spectator
11:34:56  <Stablean> Jam35__: Client 803 is Dixon296, a spectator
11:34:56  <Stablean> Jam35__: Client 805 (Red) is happy tran sport, in company 1 (happy tran sport Transport)
11:35:06  <Jam35__> hey Dixon
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11:35:24  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
11:35:26  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
11:35:28  <Stablean> <chester> hi
11:35:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
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11:39:38  <Stablean> <Dixon296> its better now
11:41:16  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> how do i auto-update the trains & waggons to maglev?
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11:41:42  <Stablean> <chester> press trains on the main panel, thereis a button autoreplace
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11:42:26  <Stablean> <chester> no, thereis no button, but a menuitem under manage list
11:42:49  <Stablean> <chester> you can replace engines or wagons
11:43:21  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so i have to get all trains to the depot?
11:43:28  <Stablean> <chester> no
11:43:46  <Stablean> <chester> they will visit it once themselves
11:44:02  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> the upgrade button is grey ?!
11:44:34  <Stablean> <chester> where
11:44:48  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> it is the one with the yellow arrow correct?
11:44:53  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> in the main train menu
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11:45:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello
11:45:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
11:45:06  <Stablean> <chester> hi
11:45:09  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
11:45:24  <Stablean> <chester> no, enter trains list
11:45:34  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> thats what i ment
11:45:48  <Stablean> <chester> thereis a menu - 'Manage list'
11:45:52  <Stablean> <chester> bottom
11:45:54  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes
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11:46:12  <Stablean> <chester> from the dropdown menu select replace
11:46:18  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok i found it
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11:46:28  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and replace it with ... which maglev?
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11:46:49  <Stablean> <chester> which runs @400 kmh
11:46:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Get it heavy is the best in my point of view
11:47:02  <Stablean> <chester> yes
11:47:12  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
11:47:15  <Stablean> <Dixon296> slugs
11:47:21  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Don't forget to replace wagons too
11:47:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh forgot this one ^^'
11:47:58  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yep, in yout case, slugs are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better
11:48:08  <Stablean> <chester> slugs are great, but set wagon removal to on since its1 tile long
11:48:14  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> slugs?
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11:48:33  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> "THE SLUG" is the complete name
11:48:36  <Stablean> <Dixon296> what i am using
11:48:51  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i should use those?
11:49:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yup
11:49:24  <Stablean> <chester> theyre the most powerful, but set wagon removal to on
11:49:26  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> it say it's not working
11:49:34  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What does it say exactly ?
11:49:54  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> can only attach waggons or STRING/MEDIUM/FAST engines
11:50:09  <Stablean> <chester> replace wagons then
11:50:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Slug's cannot haul express wagons ...
11:50:32  <Stablean> <chester> you may replace all to universal maglev
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11:50:50  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> automativ?
11:50:50  <Stablean> <chester> they can
11:51:05  <Stablean> <Dixon296> they did for me
11:51:15  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh ok
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11:51:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> So replace wagons, as chester said
11:51:33  <Stablean> <chester> atoreplace all wagons to universal maglevs
11:51:35  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what ? aahhhh jam ...
11:53:34  <Stablean> <chester> have you wanon removal to on?
11:53:43  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i got it
11:54:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Still no replacement
11:54:28  <Stablean> <chester> are you replacing wagons/?
11:54:54  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes?
11:55:08  <Stablean> <chester> and engines?
11:55:10  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Can I join your compagny in order to see what's going on ?
11:55:14  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> not yet
11:55:16  <Stablean> <chester> yes mee 2
11:55:42  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Don't worry, we are not noobs :D
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11:56:14  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Ho wait, it work
11:56:30  <Stablean> <chester> it doesnt
11:56:37  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Check train 57
11:56:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and 59
11:57:56  <Stablean> <chester> not all wagons are being upg then
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11:58:30  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Why are they superstrong engines ... xD
12:00:05  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Surfer, you forgot a tile near Fruntbourne bridge
12:00:41  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> thanks
12:00:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ans replace your SUPERSTRONG engines too
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12:09:10  <Stablean> <chester> general timeout happens to the most
12:09:34  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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12:10:29  <Stablean> <chester> Dixon did you try?
12:10:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb  dixon
12:10:56  <Stablean> <Dixon296> no it wont open link
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12:11:03  <Stablean> <chester> http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/91535502/file.html
12:11:04  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at www10.zippyshare.com)
12:11:09  <Stablean> <chester> cant be so
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12:11:25  <Speedy> worked for me
12:11:25  <Stablean> <chester> i'll make it tinyurl
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12:12:17  <Stablean> <chester> http://tinyurl.com/c32havo
12:12:18  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at tinyurl.com)
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12:13:00  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> trains 4, 12, 13 won't replace :(
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12:13:24  <Stablean> <Dixon296> post again chester im on irc now
12:13:27  <Stablean> <chester> http://tinyurl.com/c32havo
12:13:27  <Webster> Title: Zippyshare.com - openttd.7z (at tinyurl.com)
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12:13:52  <Dixon296> says server error
12:14:01  <Speedy> o_O
12:14:45  <Stablean> <Dixon296> still wont work for me chester
12:14:47  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :(
12:15:05  <chester_> choose another fileshare service
12:15:11  <chester_> i'll put it there
12:15:21  <chester_> Speedy what your cpu is?
12:15:37  <Dixon296> dropbox
12:15:40  <chester_> those of
12:16:03  <chester_> which?
12:16:34  <Dixon296> dropbox if you can
12:17:24  <chester_> i havent account there
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12:18:22  <Dixon296> wherever then
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12:22:51  <chester_> http://95.26.50.210/openttd.7z
12:22:57  <chester_> prom me directly
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12:36:48  <chester_> Dixon have you downloaded?
12:37:49  <planetmaker> so, did someone in the meantime provide a map and URL to it?
12:38:03  <chester_> no
12:38:15  <chester_> but we are testing
12:38:17  <Dixon296> yea thanks chester
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12:41:10  <V453000> wtf is happening here? :D
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12:42:49  <Stablean> <Dixon296> \o
12:42:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  v
12:42:57  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
12:44:47  <chester_> hoho when it show only every 30th frame it looks unusual
12:45:10  <Stablean> <V453000> trivial, but awesome mess on your island chester :)
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12:46:08  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> o/
12:46:10  <Stablean> <chester> and cpu usage is 30-40% (60-80% core)
12:46:12  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
12:46:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
12:46:28  <Stablean> <chester> i'll make another one for sleepy and jam
12:46:38  <Stablean> <chester> dont reset server pls
12:46:42  <Stablean> <V453000> ??
12:46:48  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf are you trying to do
12:47:36  <Stablean> <chester> do you remember we talked about lowering cpu consumption?
12:47:50  <Stablean> <chester> finally i managed to do that
12:48:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont remember that at all, but how?
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12:49:11  <Stablean> <chester> there is a function that renders vehicles every tick
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12:49:21  <Stablean> <chester> i made it drop every even frame
12:49:48  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm that is just rendering sprites isnt it
12:50:00  <Stablean> <chester> now im compiling to make it show every 4th frame for jam and sleepy
12:51:12  <Stablean> <chester> as you can see Surfer and i can join and play now
12:51:31  <Stablean> <chester> it was impossible for 2 days for me, after year 2100
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12:52:43  <Stablean> <V453000> well if it helps you :)
12:52:49  <Stablean> <chester> also, i turned cash messages on delivery off
12:52:55  <Stablean> <chester> me?
12:53:05  <Stablean> <chester> i helps 80% of players
12:53:35  <Stablean> <chester> 4/5 joins here and gets kicked with 'general timeout'
12:55:46  <Stablean> <chester> i think recent games are cpu consuming because nuts trains are really fast and there are lots of them
12:56:12  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> People just don't know to play with slower trains
12:56:38  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> Most people automatically upgrade to maglev without much thought
12:57:34  <Stablean> <chester> i tried to switch from maglev to monorail and was able to deliver 90% or worse
12:57:52  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> and?
12:58:06  <Stablean> <chester> no space!
12:58:20  <Stablean> <chester> ok i have another build
12:58:23  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> If 100% station rating is your goal, then... that's that, I guess
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12:58:35  <Stablean> <V453000> I think maglev should get reduced capacity though
12:58:59  <Stablean> <V453000> monorail is a weird mix of everything now
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12:59:17  <Stablean> <V453000> rail is probably still unmatched though
12:59:49  <Stablean> <V453000> the line throughput with strong/medium rail is really high
13:01:11  <Stablean> <chester> now it consumes approx 40%cpu, but gets slightly glitchy
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13:05:20  <chester_> you must try it V!
13:05:24  <Stablean> <V453000> reducing maglev capacity to 22 could be an option I guess
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13:05:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont have any cpu issues chester :)
13:05:49  <chester_> checkout how smooth it is
13:05:59  <Stablean> <V453000> my game is smooth :D
13:06:08  <chester_> and you will know how to help your poor customers
13:06:23  <Stablean> <V453000> but sure if you have win64 lets try
13:06:37  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think I will see a difference though
13:06:37  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i have
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13:06:48  <chester_> 32bit binaries run on win64
13:06:59  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I know that
13:07:09  <chester_> http://95.26.50.210/openttd.7z
13:07:48  <V453000> wtf is that
13:07:49  <V453000> exe? :d
13:08:17  <chester_> i just compiled it
13:08:19  <V453000> oh it is just that
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13:08:55  <Stablean> <V453000_ass> olol
13:08:59  <chester_> see?
13:09:07  <Stablean> <V453000_ass> it glitches horribly for me
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13:09:46  <Stablean> <Dixon296> it does actualy help me V
13:09:52  <Stablean> <V453000> I believe that
13:09:55  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> me also
13:10:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I just dont have issues right now so I cant see it
13:10:08  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> otherwise i couldn't play at all on this server
13:10:11  <Stablean> <V453000> but I believe it helps
13:11:09  <Stablean> <Dixon296> but will you have to do this everytime a new release is out ?
13:11:15  <Stablean> <V453000> of course
13:11:17  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> I'm playing here too with only a moderate machine with an unmodded client
13:11:39  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what cpu do you have sylf
13:11:53  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> i5
13:12:00  <chester_> moderate...
13:12:27  <chester_> we have low-end then
13:12:32  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> i5 dual core is pretty moderate compared to modern gamers system with i7 and 6-core
13:12:33  <chester_> @2100ghz
13:13:09  <chester_> we talked with developers yesterday
13:13:19  <chester_> they were surprised this worked
13:13:27  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> cpu speed...  1.2GHz here
13:13:41  <chester_> frosch123 actually gave me hint where to seek
13:14:51  <Stablean> <V453000> well all the new i-thigns from intel still have pretty good architecture I assume
13:14:52  <chester_> development is frozen now, they may add this as an option in the game in spring or later idk
13:15:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I have almost the same frequency on my current processor as on the previous older one, but the differencei s huge
13:17:28  <Stablean> <V453000> I think the frequency does matter, but it isnt the only thing
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13:22:05  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dixon  won  your goods  drop of  dus  not  a ccepts    goods
13:22:24  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt matter he has SLUGS
13:22:57  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea dont need owt else but slugs
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13:25:23  <chester_> Jam if you trying this?
13:26:03  <Jam35> I just get immediate: "possible connection loss, no data has arrived from server..."
13:26:24  <Jam35> tried
13:26:34  <chester_> i was getting it when joining from another client
13:27:10  <Jam35> makes little if no difference
13:27:18  <Jam35> and has never been this bad
13:27:35  <Jam35> my cpu isn't great but has usually been adequate
13:27:49  <chester_> wait, im compiling another one, it will show every 20th
13:28:08  <chester_> dont know is it playable but for testing
13:28:33  <chester_> i can stop all my trains for now
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13:29:35  <Stablean> <chester> stopped
13:29:50  <Stablean> <chester> and game flies immediately
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13:29:56  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc :)
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13:30:08  <Stablean> <V453000> that is pathfinding for you
13:30:34  <Stablean> <V453000> we even did a game where we synchronized ALL Trains on the ML, releasing them in certain intervals
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13:30:50  <Stablean> <V453000> and the whole ML was a SML so ALL trains had a pathfinding choice option at the same time
13:30:57  <Stablean> <V453000> funny cpu wave requirements
13:32:26  <Jam35> Im pretty sure I just have choppy internet atm
13:32:45  <Stablean> <chester> game says different
13:32:52  <Jam35> will be testing on a monster PC soon :)
13:33:07  <Stablean> <V453000> hm if I reduce normal maglev capacity 24->22, keep SLUG capacity at 24 y/n?
13:33:13  <Stablean> <V453000> POLL :D
13:33:20  <Stablean> <chester> y
13:33:38  <Stablean> <Dixon296> y
13:33:56  <Jam35> yessiree
13:33:58  <Stablean> <chester> jam a new version will be ready in 5 min
13:34:17  <Stablean> <V453000> James automatically agrees without reading the question
13:34:19  <Stablean> <V453000> good
13:34:19  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
13:34:22  <Jam35> I will try...
13:34:24  <Stablean> <V453000> oh nvm
13:34:26  <Stablean> <V453000> ..
13:34:29  <Stablean> <V453000> my bad
13:34:31  <Jam35> I can't read
13:36:00  <Stablean> <chester> ready, reload
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13:37:07  <Stablean> <chester #1> scrolling is faster here
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13:43:50  <Stablean> <chester> Jam, try it
13:44:12  <Stablean> <V453000> oh I forgot maglev wagons are just visual
13:44:16  <Stablean> <V453000> meh will add capacity switch
13:44:53  <Jam35> link?
13:45:26  <chester_> http://95.26.50.210/openttd.7z
13:46:22  <Jam35> which one? skips1 or skips3
13:46:47  <chester_> try skips 19
13:47:38  <Stablean> <Dixon296> rip latburg
13:48:38  <Jam35> don't have that file only openttd_nocash_skips1 and 3
13:48:48  <chester_> reload from the link
13:48:56  <chester_> oh, maybe cashing is on
13:49:01  <chester_> i'll remane
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13:49:26  <Jam35> same
13:49:31  <chester_> http://95.26.50.210/openttd.exe.7z
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13:51:49  <Stablean> <V453000> lol nice
13:52:04  <Stablean> <chester #1> what
13:52:06  <Stablean> <V453000> if you load NUTS 0.4.0 in a running game - which has 22t par maglev wagon, they still carry 24
13:52:12  <Stablean> <V453000> but they can only load 22
13:52:14  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
13:52:24  <Stablean> <chester #1> and will wait?
13:52:38  <Stablean> <V453000> nono I mean they just dont reduce the amount of cargo they already carry
13:52:44  <Stablean> <V453000> other than that it is 22 all in all
13:53:19  <Stablean> <chester #1> is it playable Jam?
13:53:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> jerky then bouts of smooth
13:53:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> glitchy as hell trains
13:53:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> but better ty :)
13:54:24  <Stablean> <chester #1> i said, its your cpu not network
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13:55:44  <Stablean> <chester #1> i like this even more, since it only needs half of cpu now
13:56:14  <Stablean> <chester #1> 25-30% cpu, 50-60% core
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13:59:04  <Stablean> <chester #1> now im gonna run trains, get prepared
13:59:18  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> heh
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14:00:13  <Stablean> <ars> chester #1: GHBDTN
14:00:16  <Stablean> <ars> ПРИВЕТ
14:01:03  <Stablean> <ars> ПАРОЛЬ НАПИШИ
14:01:46  <V453000> english. I am saying it for the last time
14:02:08  <Stablean> <Dixon296> but i carnt speak english
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14:04:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> ars you forgor the E of your name :P
14:05:03  <Stablean> <Dixon296> forgot
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14:12:28  <Jam35_> dodgy cnx
14:12:36  <Jam35_> lost irc too
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14:18:48  <Stablean> <V453000> ok from next nuts version on a network like chester has, monorail is more effective than maglev
14:18:50  <Stablean> <V453000> as it should be
14:23:00  <Stablean> <Dixon296> even with slugs
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14:59:52  <Stablean> <ars> ti zdes chester #1 ?
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15:01:50  <andrew> !ip
15:01:51  <Stablean> andrew: stable.openttdcoop.org:3999
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15:02:48  <andrew> he-looo
15:03:47  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hello
15:03:51  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
15:04:01  <Stablean> <ars> hi
15:04:07  <andrew> :)
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15:05:15  <andrew> has any of you playd a game where  all primary cargo is pickt up by RV/tram, transferd to train, and secundary cargo is only shipped via train?
15:05:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nop
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15:05:58  <Stablean> <ars> hi
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15:06:45  <andrew> hmm.. says my computer is too slow to join.
15:06:52  <andrew> that is a mega sux0r.
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15:07:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb  jam
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15:07:43  <V453000> want a restart?
15:07:52  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
15:08:18  <Stablean> <ars> hi
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15:08:48  <Jam35> yes!!!!!
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15:09:02  <Stablean> <Dixon296> not botherd V only got an hour left to play today anyway
15:09:04  <Jam35> I want a new computer
15:09:14  <andrew> probably gona need it, otherwise no way i could join :D
15:09:17  <andrew> ya, me too.
15:09:30  <Jam35> Lovely speed on my bro's
15:09:32  <V453000> im just going to start the same map again and lets see how you deal with it
15:09:49  <andrew> 'kay
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15:10:12  <Stablean> <Dixon296> deal with what?
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15:10:53  <V453000> !auto
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15:12:00  <Stablean> <andre> uuu, i made it.
15:12:02  <Stablean> <andre> nice.
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15:15:46  <andrew> any clue when the coop server will restart?
15:15:58  <Stablean> <Dixon296> it just has
15:16:08  <Stablean> <V453000> this isnt "the" coop server ;)
15:16:14  <andrew> correct.
15:16:20  <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh ps
15:16:22  <Stablean> <V453000> it will when it will
15:16:22  <Stablean> <V453000> idk
15:16:25  <Stablean> <V453000> probably soonish
15:16:39  <andrew> i would like to propose a network plan too. :D for fun.
15:16:57  <Stablean> <V453000> I smell christmas game coming this week
15:17:09  <andrew> can happen.
15:18:01  <Stablean> <V453000> ars: you could add one more wagon/engine to those trains
15:18:44  <Stablean> <V453000> happy tran sport: you should really try flipping the rear engine :P
15:19:34  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
15:19:40  <Stablean> <V453000> I meant by ctrl clicking it in the depot
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15:20:15  <Stablean> <V453000> the rear engine fits the rest of the train that way
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15:20:45  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar  ok thanks
15:21:16  <Stablean> <V453000> try it :p
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15:22:33  <Stablean> <andre> maybe this map has a bit too mutch water for my personal taste.
15:22:58  <V453000> just stick with your island
15:23:03  <V453000> and its fine :)
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15:24:15  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello all
15:24:32  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
15:24:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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15:26:50  <andrew> well, this ain't my legue :D
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15:26:57  <andrew> but thank you for letting me visit.
15:27:12  <Stablean> <Dixon296> what you mean your leauge
15:27:14  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :
15:27:44  <V453000> this is the lowest league we have :p
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15:27:53  <Stablean> <ars> привет
15:28:37  <V453000> !players
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 900 (Orange) is Dixon296, in company 4 (Dixon296 Transport)
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 901 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 3 (happy tran sport Transport)
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 903 (Green) is ars, in company 2 (ars Transport)
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 921 is Speedy, a spectator
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 915 is [FR]Syl59, a spectator
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 913 (Red) is Jam35, in company 1 (Jam35 Transport)
15:28:40  <Stablean> V453000: Client 923 is chester, a spectator
15:28:45  <V453000> !rcon kick 903
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15:29:02  <Stablean> <Dixon296> LOL
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15:29:44  <Stablean> <Dixon296> om off cya all
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15:29:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
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15:35:45  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
15:35:47  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
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15:52:38  <Stablean> <ars> Flewood:
15:53:09  <Stablean> <ars> chester Ti zdes?
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15:56:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
15:57:02  <Stablean> <Martinos> im pause 1 game )
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16:52:41  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hi
16:52:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
16:53:05  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> you started a new game? nice
16:54:03  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> can i "claim" my own island? ^^
16:54:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> just build there
16:55:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> most people know the guideline rules
16:55:46  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> guidlines mean ... not building on someone's island? or what do you mean?
16:56:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> exactly
16:56:26  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what is the most profitable good to start with?
16:56:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> coal
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16:57:42  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  c hris
16:57:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi happy tran sport
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16:58:06  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and what trainlength with those rather slow trains in the beginning?
16:58:08  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> 4?
16:58:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2
16:58:57  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> why only 2 ?
16:58:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> 6
16:59:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I like 2
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17:14:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> boom
17:14:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woops
17:15:04  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> boom what
17:15:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> train crash
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17:22:49  <Stablean> <V453000> hoyo
17:23:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:23:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
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17:24:26  <Stablean> <V453000> nice junctions chester :D
17:24:32  <Stablean> <chester> they rock
17:24:38  <Stablean> <chester> 5 sec to build
17:25:49  <Stablean> <chester> iv learned from Troy McClure, he starts very fast
17:26:19  <Stablean> <V453000> not much to learn there, you just dont tf and spam a shitload of trains
17:26:39  <Stablean> <chester> learn not to build much
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17:44:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be  back later
17:44:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> cya
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19:28:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi Diablo
19:28:58  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi jam
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21:38:28  <Stablean> <ComLock> hi
21:38:42  <Stablean> <ComLock> Is there any way to contact a server which is passworded?
21:39:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
21:39:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> no idea
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21:59:30  <Sylf[JP]> !date
21:59:30  <Stablean> Sylf[JP]: 27 Nov 1949
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22:02:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi Sylf
22:02:15  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> hi
22:03:34  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> what the hell happened! happy is using TL3
22:03:54  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> oh, maybe only a few trains
22:04:20  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> ...or ... NOT!
22:04:30  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> daaaamn
22:04:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
22:04:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> TL4 CL2
22:05:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> CL1 whatever
22:05:56  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> nice jam for surfer
22:06:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> ooh looks like deadlock
22:06:33  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> nah
22:06:43  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> not quite. Just a slow primary station
22:07:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes he really needs signals after that station
22:07:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> platforms even
22:08:19  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> ye
22:10:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> okay how to expand Little Sonworth Forest?
22:10:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> or at least improve
22:11:03  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> :D
22:11:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> my only primary with stuff waiting atm
22:11:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> need more trains but...
22:11:42  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> that overflow is pretty inefficient
22:11:52  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> it's actually slowing the flow down
22:11:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> true don't like 'em
22:12:06  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> kill it
22:12:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> only built cos the line blocked
22:12:16  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> that alone will improve it
22:13:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> hm
22:13:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> worried about blocking now
22:14:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> should be ok
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22:24:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi happy
22:24:34  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
22:25:00  <Stablean> <Speedy> hey
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22:28:56  <Stablean> <V453000> haio
22:29:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
22:29:00  <Stablean> <chester> hi
22:29:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
22:29:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> when do 2nd gen wagons happen?
22:29:38  <Stablean> <V453000> 55
22:29:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> kewl
22:29:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> 3rd gen?
22:30:00  <Stablean> <V453000> 90
22:30:06  <Stablean> <V453000> :D chester going the STRONG way
22:30:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> gotcha ty
22:30:32  <Stablean> <chester> yes, preparing for slugs
22:30:38  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
22:30:44  <Stablean> <V453000> only 120 years to go :P
22:30:58  <Stablean> <chester> im patient
22:32:57  <Stablean> <V453000> :DDDD well played ediz
22:33:11  <Stablean> <V453000> I have to admit I havent seen this yet
22:33:53  <Stablean> <chester> wow
22:34:08  <Stablean> <V453000> original
22:34:46  <Stablean> <chester> 1 year to go
22:35:05  <Stablean> <V453000> what happens then?
22:35:15  <Stablean> <chester> i'll buy him
22:35:19  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
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22:35:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  wood
22:35:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
22:35:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all
22:36:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
22:37:34  <Stablean> <V453000> lumber carnage incoming
22:37:36  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
22:38:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D
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22:38:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb  chris
22:38:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
22:38:44  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
22:39:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi V453000
22:39:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
22:39:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> h Jam35
22:40:05  <Stablean> <V453000> CB are you aware that there are new 2headed cargo trains?
22:40:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
22:40:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when did this happen?
22:44:18  <Stablean> <V453000> short time ago
22:44:31  <Stablean> <V453000> all you have to do for them is to keep 1 engine until 2070
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22:44:41  <Stablean> <V453000> as they are double headed
22:44:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh
22:45:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well I am sticking to 2 for now
22:45:04  <Stablean> <V453000> and then you just bath in the awesome
22:45:10  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah well others will probably do it :P
22:45:18  <Stablean> <V453000> or some of them
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22:46:33  <Stablean> <chester> it is even better after maglev capacity reduced
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22:47:32  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev capacity didnt reduce yet ;)
22:47:34  <Stablean> <V453000> officialy that is
22:47:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas
22:47:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nn
22:47:48  <Stablean> <chester> still 24?
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22:47:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> cya
22:47:56  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc there is still 0.3.9
22:48:02  <Stablean> <V453000> 0.4.0 isnt coming anytime soon
22:48:05  <Stablean> <chester> ah
22:48:07  <Stablean> <V453000> new features
22:48:25  <Stablean> <V453000> whole new train class based on wtf
22:48:33  <Stablean> <V453000> cant go wrong there
22:51:09  <Stablean> <V453000> MrD2DG will be amazed
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22:53:51  <Stablean> <Speedy> =P
22:58:52  <V453000> Chris Booth: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=63651
22:58:53  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - NewStations v0.5 (at www.tt-forums.net)
22:59:12  <V453000> go convince MB to put it on bananas :D
22:59:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
22:59:44  <Stablean> <chester> WOW
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23:00:09  <Chris_Booth> @logs
23:00:09  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/
23:01:00  <V453000> Chris Booth: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=63651
23:01:01  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - NewStations v0.5 (at www.tt-forums.net)
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23:22:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem
23:33:10  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice   tran  net werk  jam
23:33:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's a bit quiet so far
23:33:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> needs trains but ty :)
23:34:17  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep  but  its  beter  then  whont i  got
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