Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 9th April 2013:
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00:00:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> gn
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01:39:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
01:39:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi
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04:30:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooooooooo
04:32:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh wow xD
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05:05:13  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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05:24:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi all
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11:07:56  <V453000> 'fternoon
11:08:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> same to you
11:14:41  <V453000> forum trolling unsuccessful, nobody reads the forum anymore :d
11:14:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe
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22:17:32  <Stablean> <V453000> oi
22:17:34  <Stablean> <Comito> Hey!
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22:17:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> new map :D
22:18:10  <Stablean> <Comito> This one's been around for a while
22:18:13  <Stablean> <Comito> Or is there a new one coming?
22:18:23  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I was thinking :)
22:18:41  <Stablean> <V453000> prooobably tomorrow because there Might be new NUTS
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22:19:01  <Stablean> <V453000> there is still at lot of space here anyway :)
22:20:20  <Stablean> <V453000> I have redrawn like 15 trains so might as well wait the one day :P
22:20:59  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Ooooh
22:21:17  <Stablean> <Comito> About to start work on my first maglev track
22:22:06  <Stablean> <V453000> mostly rather improvements than complete redrawings, but very major improvements :)
22:22:28  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Have you replaced the piggies with cows?
22:22:39  <Stablean> <V453000> wha why would I do that
22:22:45  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Dunno :)
22:22:47  <Stablean> <V453000> also, I have redrawn engines, not wagons
22:22:59  <Stablean> <V453000> redrawing 15 wagon sprites would be like nothing :)
22:23:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I fancy a spotted pig :)
22:23:49  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hows public btw?
22:23:55  <Stablean> <V453000> look? :D
22:24:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont even know in fact
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22:30:04  <Stablean> <Comito> Meech!
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22:30:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Guy!
22:30:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo
22:31:18  <Stablean> <Comito> I'm building my first maglev track
22:31:20  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hello
22:31:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sweet
22:31:37  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I just started with maglev tbh
22:31:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> double sweet!
22:31:51  <Stablean> <V453000> OMFG
22:31:53  <Stablean> <V453000> hi :)
22:32:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hiiiiiiiiiii<3
22:32:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you guys should play catch-up with TMC transport
22:33:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> combine your forcessssss
22:33:44  <Stablean> <V453000> he does the NUT'em thing, you cant oppose that
22:34:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nope! line's are looking like they are 100% capacity
22:34:38  <Stablean> <V453000> not like we get a ton of those in every psg :P
22:35:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> never!
22:35:12  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly =D
22:35:14  <Stablean> <V453000> k
22:35:16  <Stablean> <Comito> And there we go, it's ready
22:35:16  <Stablean> <V453000> :s
22:35:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P
22:35:32  <Stablean> <V453000> I decided I will make your eyes die from the amount of engines I redrawn Meech
22:35:35  <Stablean> <V453000> prepare uranus
22:35:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> washed and ready
22:35:59  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
22:36:22  <Stablean> <V453000> and I wanted to say that you are talking shit
22:36:25  <Stablean> <V453000> not doing that now.
22:36:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> remember to add signals every 2 spaces comito
22:36:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not the defualt 4
22:36:58  <Stablean> <V453000> default is 4?
22:37:01  <Stablean> <V453000> jesus fuck
22:37:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think so
22:37:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I really dont understand some defaults
22:37:31  <Stablean> <V453000> that 2way eol is not default is alright I think
22:37:33  <Stablean> <Comito> Well Meech, look at light blue's tracks
22:37:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you love default 4 spacing
22:37:43  <Stablean> <V453000> but it does not make any sense by any means at all to signal any other than 2
22:37:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> dont copy light blue
22:37:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they dont know what they are donig
22:38:11  <Stablean> <Comito> You sure about that?
22:38:17  <Stablean> <V453000> he for sure places more signs than he has brain cells
22:38:28  <Stablean> <V453000> ok that was harsh but still
22:38:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think that is ROM51XX
22:38:34  <Stablean> <V453000> his signalling is trash
22:38:44  <Stablean> <V453000> see purple if you want a good example, or even dark blue
22:38:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're better off at every 2 spaces like we demoed last week, Comito
22:39:06  <Stablean> <V453000> Sylf (purple) is one of the best people you can observe
22:39:32  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm a good example too. I've never been told off by V :)
22:39:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> time to bash him to bits, V
22:39:50  <Stablean> <V453000> wat does told off mean
22:39:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> bollocked
22:40:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> told off , said your stuff was garbage
22:40:02  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> dressed down
22:40:04  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> reprimanded
22:40:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> go back to playing single player :P
22:40:14  <Stablean> <V453000> how the hell did that happen!
22:40:20  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
22:40:30  <Stablean> <V453000> lets give him hell Meech
22:40:36  <Stablean> <V453000> Kongens Skærhavn Power station :P
22:40:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
22:40:54  <Stablean> <V453000> no signals on exit == all platforms act as one
22:41:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, i see lots of things wrong there
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22:41:13  <Stablean> <V453000> in not going to bash for CL1 because that isnt really an issue there
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22:42:01  <BiG_MeEcH> Yeah, power station is garbage :P
22:42:11  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> hmph :)_
22:42:14  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It's better now :)
22:42:20  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> That was the first station I built this map :D
22:42:22  <BiG_MeEcH> Oh nice
22:42:32  <Stablean> <V453000> ok, now we are even
22:42:42  <Stablean> <V453000> from now on you can refer to me as a total bitch
22:42:49  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
22:42:54  <BiG_MeEcH> Hi Total Bitch
22:43:01  <Stablean> <V453000> Hello Awesome Person
22:43:27  <Stablean> <Comito> I was wondering why my first train wasn't picking anything up; then I realized I hadn't refitted it for livestock
22:43:37  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
22:43:43  <Stablean> <V453000> common mistake :) happens to everyone
22:44:09  <Stablean> <V453000> Comito: hint, always have 1 loading station for only 1 cargo type
22:44:12  <BiG_MeEcH> Especially that bastard, Meech
22:44:17  <Stablean> <V453000> if 2 grain trains arrived now, livestock trains couldnt load
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22:45:17  <Stablean> <Comito> Say what you want about Staravia's signals; it looks like his trains are running fine
22:45:27  <Stablean> <V453000> they are bit it is outright terrible
22:45:42  <Stablean> <V453000> *but
22:46:13  <Stablean> <V453000> it usually isnt only about if it is running now, but also what happens if the lines would actually need to be under stress
22:46:39  <Stablean> <V453000> aka his train density is so low that he could have a rollercoaster of the tracks and it still wouldnt hurt
22:46:45  <Stablean> <V453000> that doesnt mean the rollercoaster would have been correct
22:46:51  <Stablean> <V453000> Except it would have been awesome
22:48:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> This game is sooo relaxing
22:48:31  <Stablean> <V453000> you mean OpenTTD or this game like this game?
22:48:42  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I mean, this game, after a hard day of work, at this moment in time
22:48:52  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
22:49:54  <Stablean> <Comito> Troy's trains are fun to watch
22:50:21  <Stablean> <V453000> do you know about our website/archives/stuff?
22:50:28  <Stablean> <Comito> Not really
22:50:34  <Stablean> <V453000>
22:50:46  <Stablean> <V453000> for all volumes of wtf
22:52:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm trying to imagine a way this game would work on an iPad
22:53:14  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I like apple products, but iOS gaming seems so... shallow
22:53:32  <Stablean> <V453000> not even trying to imagine, I hate everything with a touch screen
22:53:38  <Stablean> <V453000> apparently, those things hate me too
22:53:40  <Stablean> <V453000> so its alright
22:54:16  <Stablean> <V453000> I might be oldschool and retarded, but I still prefer a desktop pc with all its proper peripheries
22:54:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I understand notebooks, thats alright, but the touch things
22:54:42  <Stablean> <V453000> no.
22:54:42  <BiG_MeEcH> dot matrix printer
22:54:44  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I know, but I just like lying in bed with my iPad, spending half an hour before I nap off on youtube
22:54:55  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
22:55:01  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I have a proper pc, big monitor, mechanical keyboard
22:55:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> but still like an iPad
22:55:15  <Stablean> <V453000> why not :)
22:55:50  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess since my entertainment with electronical devices includes drawing, listening to music and being on irc/openttd, ipad isnt the best option :P
22:56:13  <Stablean> <V453000> if it cant cook then it better run openttd
22:56:56  <BiG_MeEcH> Mine cooks in high heels in the kitchen
22:57:05  <BiG_MeEcH> name is Rosie
22:57:21  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> What do you do for a living V?>
23:00:44  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I love troys ML
23:00:46  <Stablean> <V453000> hard to describe properly, but I do print/web design and some minor website programming
23:00:56  <Stablean> <V453000> also some animations
23:00:58  <Stablean> <V453000> and stuff
23:01:00  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> You mean a front-end developer?
23:01:06  <Stablean> <V453000> you could say that
23:01:46  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I always find front-end development can end up encompassing anything.
23:01:49  <Stablean> <V453000> I basically do based on what customers want and if I can do/learn it
23:02:19  <Stablean> <V453000> it really varies quite a lot
23:02:29  <Stablean> <V453000> but mostly it has something to do with graphical output
23:02:32  <BiG_MeEcH>  V, I thought you were in rear-end development and thought you were an ass!
23:02:41  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> it's back-end development :)
23:02:42  <BiG_MeEcH> Guess I'm wrong!
23:02:46  <Stablean> <V453000> :DDD
23:02:46  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> With huge stacks!
23:03:02  <Stablean> <V453000> ok you gain 1 small plus point for today Meech
23:03:17  <Stablean> <V453000> when you gain more than 0.3 small plus point it means you are a total bastard
23:03:41  <Stablean> <V453000> OH WAIT
23:03:44  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm trying my damndest to get a junior .net developer role atm
23:03:46  <Stablean> <V453000> you actually got that already
23:04:09  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
23:04:14  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm not motivated enough to be my own boss though :)
23:04:29  <Stablean> <V453000> works for me
23:04:48  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Depends, you only play one video game :)
23:04:58  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I end up playing every big release :D
23:05:01  <Stablean> <V453000> how did you come to that conclusion
23:05:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I like some other games too
23:05:35  <Stablean> <V453000> true that I only play the games which are worth it like SC2 :)
23:07:09  <Stablean> <V453000> I usually compensate the amount of games I play for the amount of how much of a nerd I get in them
23:07:23  <Stablean> <V453000> I got like billion of heroes of might and magic V hours played too
23:07:26  <BiG_MeEcH> well what comes after bastard status?
23:07:36  <Stablean> <V453000> TM
23:07:42  <Stablean> <V453000> True Meech
23:07:56  <Stablean> <V453000> Oh wait you are beyond true, you are big already
23:08:10  <Stablean> <V453000> you are forever damned sir
23:08:37  <BiG_MeEcH> Yay! I've gained damned status. Call me Damned Meech from now on :D
23:09:38  <Stablean> <V453000> that fits
23:09:48  <Stablean> <V453000> DM is a clan called Dirty Minds
23:10:03  <Stablean> <V453000> who else thought about ladies upon first seeing Wet rails
23:10:13  <Stablean> <V453000> you filthy chameleon pig
23:10:39  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> btw V... if you work in graphic design
23:10:45  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Why doesn't openTTDCoop have a logo?
23:10:52  <Stablean> <V453000> what for? :D
23:11:10  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> To be in the top left corner of each page and to take you back to the homepage
23:11:17  <Stablean> <V453000> I actually never thought of why should we have a logo
23:11:20  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> and to put on top of openttdcoop letterheads and business cards
23:12:04  <Stablean> <V453000> even if I was about to do that I would just write #openttdcoop in a nice font
23:12:18  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I like Avant-Garde Gothic
23:12:25  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> or Frutiger
23:12:39  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah those are nice
23:12:45  <Stablean> <V453000> I mostly use Acto
23:12:48  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> But you could have the differnt words in different colours
23:12:54  <Stablean> <Comito> I just made an intersection
23:12:58  <Stablean> <Comito> My first-ever intersection
23:13:04  <Stablean> <Comito> Hopefully it will work
23:13:06  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Let's seee it
23:13:17  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Put a sign up that say !intersections beeyatch
23:13:39  <Stablean> <Comito> There
23:14:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
23:14:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Erm... it's a bit basic :D
23:14:08  <Stablean> <Comito> I know
23:14:15  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It works though :D
23:14:17  <Stablean> <V453000> for a first ever it is nice enough
23:14:23  <Stablean> <Comito> Only one way to find out
23:14:41  <Stablean> <V453000> everything stops working sooner or later :P beauty of openttd
23:15:59  <Stablean> <Comito> Here goes nothing
23:16:58  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> YAY
23:17:01  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> it worked :D
23:17:23  <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving)
23:17:35  <Stablean> <Comito> Wait...
23:19:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm wondering about the way Troy plays
23:19:12  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Does he put like arbitary restrictions on himself?
23:19:22  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
23:19:26  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Like only using certain engines?
23:19:46  <BiG_MeEcH> No, troy wanted tons of HP and close to instant accelleration
23:19:48  <Stablean> <V453000> im not sure what do you mean by that but I think the answer is no
23:20:06  <BiG_MeEcH> just b/c an engine is fast does not mean its good
23:20:06  <Stablean> <V453000> usin 1 engine on whole network is kind of normal?
23:20:13  <Stablean> <V453000> also that
23:20:25  <Stablean> <V453000> strong class is one of the highest throughput engines of all
23:20:36  <Stablean> <V453000> and acceleration is very essential
23:20:51  <BiG_MeEcH> accelleration = tractive effort or TE
23:21:15  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It just looks so different to fast mag-lev, it's hard to imagine it being more effective
23:21:37  <Stablean> <V453000> look at wagon capacity
23:21:40  <Stablean> <V453000> and acceleration
23:21:44  <Stablean> <V453000> and figure :)
23:22:00  <BiG_MeEcH> there is a good demo that V453000 made with chimera maglev and you would be able to understand why 400mph isnt always good
23:22:36  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> What's it called, i fancy a good read up
23:22:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well the problem with original maglevs is that they have higher capacity than rail
23:23:04  <Stablean> <V453000> NUTS is reverse in that so rail can actually compete, and in fact maglev is weaker than rail in raw throughput
23:23:20  <Stablean> <V453000> but maglev has very high speed allowed through curves which makes a massive difference in terrain
23:23:46  <Stablean> <V453000> im not sure which demo does meech mean so I cant tell you actually
23:23:56  <Stablean> <V453000> pzg19 might have been one
23:24:34  <Stablean> <V453000> idk when else did I play with Lev4 ... pzg13 but that is irrelevant for what we are talking about, or Caterpillar Racer, an attachment to Advanced Building Revue 06: Hubs
23:24:54  <BiG_MeEcH> it was on the website year or more ago i think with xereus
23:25:06  <V453000> y, pzg19
23:25:20  <V453000> the video is bullshit, just look at the savegame :)
23:25:29  <BiG_MeEcH> lol
23:27:53  <Stablean> <Comito> So guys
23:28:00  <Stablean> <Comito> What do you think of this maglev line?
23:28:04  <Stablean> <Comito> Is it... decent?
23:28:23  <Stablean> <Comito> It's my first maglev line, and the first rail intersection I've ever made
23:28:27  <Stablean> <V453000> there isnt really anything to rate
23:28:41  <Stablean> <V453000> and the intersection will jam very quickly as you will see with higher traffic
23:28:55  <Stablean> <V453000> a thing to note is that trains do slow down in all of your curves
23:28:58  <Stablean> <V453000> can be a problem later too
23:29:02  <BiG_MeEcH> What V meant to say is that it is spectacular
23:29:04  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Also, you really want to get your signals as close to the intersection as possible
23:29:30  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> That way, trains clear it for other traffic quicker
23:31:44  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I saw a thread on reddit, that mentioned openttdcoop btw :)
23:31:50  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> have you noticed any spikes v?
23:32:40  <Stablean> <V453000> no idea
23:32:46  <Stablean> <V453000> neither about reddit or web traffic
23:32:49  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> :)
23:35:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Oooh the green wet rails
23:36:06  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> They move so slowly though :)
23:37:37  <Stablean> <V453000> come on it is a fucking ship... :D
23:37:47  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I want them to go maglev speed
23:37:57  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> they should carry like 5x what they do atm at that speed!
23:38:07  <Stablean> <V453000> ._.
23:38:22  <BiG_MeEcH> they would lose their cargo off the port bow if they go faster!
23:39:10  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Path reservation overlay looks a bit odd as well..
23:40:08  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Although I do, admit, they look scenic :D
23:43:06  <Stablean> <V453000> just disable path reserving :)
23:43:08  <Stablean> <V453000> I have it off
23:43:22  <Stablean> <V453000> there is no way how to make that look alright and have junctions look not-wtf
23:45:36  <Stablean> <V453000> also they use double the amount of sprites than any other trains so they better look scenic :D
23:58:07  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> double the sprites??
23:58:14  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Also, what's their purpose?
23:58:58  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I imagine using them for short stretches, like in leui of lorries

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