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02:22:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooooooooo
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04:58:39  <BoXcAr_MeEcH> !players
04:58:41  <Stablean> BoXcAr_MeEcH: Client 61 (Orange) is Cameron, in company 7 (Cameron Transport)
04:58:41  <Stablean> BoXcAr_MeEcH: Client 17 is Anson, a spectator
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05:27:21  <V453000> oyo
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06:55:08  <Stablean> <V453000> heyo
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07:03:44  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, V (and all others too) ... you like small trains ?
07:06:59  <Stablean> <Anson> lots of platforms and overflow depots too :-) ... i tried that too and think i got it right this time, at Flinnton Grain 2 ... Flinnton Pigs 2 should be similar, but no space to check for incoming trains there
07:07:47  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
07:10:13  <Stablean> <Anson> what do you think of that station(s) ... and how can i improve my goods pickup which needs more platforms in a tight space ...
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07:12:39  <Stablean> <Anson> * factory drop of course, not pickup : Keningworth Fact Drop
07:17:56  <bug_sniper_> when does the game reset?
07:18:09  <Stablean> <Dom> never
07:18:31  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
07:18:46  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : after using them once, i have come to like the chameleons better than animals and slugs :-) ... almost the same capacity, but much more speed, enough power, and good acceperation, all that at half the size
07:19:57  <Stablean> <Anson> other servers have automatic resets at some specific year ... here, new maps are started ... when nobody works on the old map any longer, many people want a new map, and someone offers a new map
07:20:15  <Stablean> <Dom> indeed
07:21:34  <Stablean> <Anson> until 2070 (?) there are new vehicles with nuts, and we only have 2089 now ... most maps don't end before 2100 or even 2150++
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07:28:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> morning
07:28:21  <Stablean> <Anson> moin
07:28:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i hate jams
07:28:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> :(
07:29:47  <Stablean> <Anson> if you like them, look at my network: station  Keningworth Fact Drop
07:30:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> expand/rebuild
07:31:13  <Stablean> <Anson> i am out of ideas at the moment, how to get rid of them ... except by storing most trains in a depot
07:31:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> more lines
07:31:41  <Stablean> <Anson> how many platforms would i need ? probably at least twice as many ... in the same tight space
07:31:56  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, and double lines
07:32:38  <Stablean> <Anson> but you see that even with a single incoming line, 6 platforms are not good enough !?
07:33:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> and beacuse the load/unload speed is quite high
07:33:44  <Stablean> <Anson> 7 loading steps is high ?
07:33:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> someone once said they use loading stages +1 for number of platforms
07:34:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> one of the higher cargo ones yes
07:34:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> not too sure about the pax trains
07:35:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> you will need to be quite creative in that space
07:35:48  <Stablean> <Anson> there are trains with only 3 stages ... 0/50/100 ... mine are 0/14/28/42/57/71/85/100 :-(
07:36:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> exactly
07:36:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> why not use that other factory for some/all?
07:37:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> or use it as temp while you rebuild
07:37:04  <Stablean> <Anson> one platform per stage sound like a good guesstimate to start with ... plus a few more for entering and leaving the station
07:37:26  <Stablean> <Anson> which other factory ?
07:37:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> Marnway-on-sea:
07:37:57  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, at Marnway-on-sea
07:38:51  <Stablean> <Anson> until i was done, two factories had died on me, and i had to fund a new one myself to not start all over
07:39:05  <Stablean> <Anson> the factory at Marnway-on-sea mist be new
07:40:20  <Stablean> <Anson> if you look at my fact drop now ... it now has the full load of all delivering trains, none in depot
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07:40:50  <Stablean> <Anson> but the pickup is stopped, and thus the exit will jam as soon as i enabled the goods train too
07:42:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> okay so...expand :)
07:42:55  <Stablean> <Anson> i put the prio on the goods side of the join : if it totally blocks one side, sooner or later the goods trains will run out of cargo and thus the dripping trains can continue ...
07:45:02  <Stablean> <Anson> can't i simply deliver to one factotry and pickup at the other, to double the available space and only rebuild half of the stations ? :-) LOL
07:45:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> unfortunately not :) but you do have 24 station spread
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07:51:00  <Stablean> <V453000> sorry Anson but I dont call one drop and 5 stations a network :P
07:51:06  <Stablean> <V453000> so I dont think anything
07:57:37  <Stablean> <Anson> i think a mainline with lots of traffic is good enough to test and try the main elements of networks, like single/double lines, station entries, stion exits, etc ... only hubs are missing
07:58:31  <Stablean> <Anson> even on such a "lined up" net, you'll get the effects of visible depots and whatever
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08:06:31  <Stablean> <Anson> my mouse is dead :-(
08:06:45  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
08:06:55  <Stablean> <Dom> to many vehicels in the game xD
08:09:01  <Stablean> <V453000> how surprising ... :)
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08:14:57  <Stablean> <Anson> revived the mouse ... fed it some new batteries
08:15:11  <Stablean> <V453000> wired mouse ftw
08:15:55  <Stablean> <Anson> mouse is only its name ... it really is a trackball
08:17:17  <Stablean> <Anson> logitech marble ...i can't use a real mouse since after 5 minutes i get a big bump on my wrist where i once had strong wear and tear on it
08:17:17  <Stablean> <V453000> omg
08:17:27  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
08:18:17  <Stablean> <Anson> and i also like the advantage of fitting it in any small place on my crowded desk :-) ... uses a lot less space than a mousepad :-)
08:18:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> anyone care to build more pax @ PS?
08:18:47  <Stablean> <Dom> :(
08:18:59  <Stablean> <Dom> maybe later going for coffee soon
08:19:09  <Stablean> <Dom> though i wanted to play all morning
08:19:11  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
08:19:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> k that's cool :)
08:19:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> I'll be around later on
08:19:35  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
08:19:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> no one wants to play on there lately
08:19:57  <Stablean> <Dom> yep saw that
08:20:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> the last archive page is a bit bleak tbh
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08:20:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> all the games end prematurely imo
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08:20:42  <Stablean> <Dom> hm
08:21:16  <Stablean> <Dom> maybe its time to develop something new ^^
08:22:10  <Jam35> I look forward to hearing your concept :p
08:22:20  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
08:22:27  <Stablean> <V453000> it takes only 1 person to motivate others Jam35 :)
08:22:41  <Stablean> <Anson> dom, did you already try to copy your island to a world with cargodist ?
08:22:50  <Jam35> which I am now doing? :p
08:23:01  <Stablean> <Dom> Nh
08:23:05  <Stablean> <Dom> nah
08:23:19  <Stablean> <V453000> more building less talking = motivation :>
08:23:34  <Stablean> <Anson> 4 towns with connections to a center hub look just like what it was intended for ... instead of dropping pax from all four directions in the center and then forgetting about them
08:24:48  <Stablean> <Dom> only 2 towns are dropping them
08:25:10  <Stablean> <Dom> final destination is tondinghall
08:27:08  <Stablean> <Anson> don't tell V that you are using ships :-)
08:27:18  <Stablean> <Dom> and helicopters :D
08:27:40  <Stablean> <V453000> I was more disappointed by the suggestion "move it to cargodist world"
08:27:46  <Stablean> <V453000> everybody fucking knows what does that do
08:28:04  <Stablean> <Anson> 10k pay waiting for a ferry ... maybe the limit for ships should be raised ? .-) LOL
08:28:10  <Stablean> <V453000> ships are ok, I am more pissed off at how people use aircraft here
08:28:24  <Stablean> <Dom> indeed!
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08:35:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i thought of planes and ships with high costs that made them non profitable by themselves, but useful as part of a larger connection, eg train on one island, ship, train on the next island (having resources on one and factories on the other island) ... but difficult to set it up nicely
08:40:05  <Stablean> <Anson> would also be nice if you can build an airport like a small net of stations, where you lay down tracks and signals instead of having fixed pathes
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08:41:13  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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09:44:17  <Stablean> <V453000> sad
09:44:35  <Stablean> <a sad dude> yes
09:44:45  <Stablean> <a sad dude> you know what's the problem
09:45:07  <Stablean> <V453000> no but I might kno the cure
09:45:15  <Stablean> <a sad dude> nowhere does it say what "openttdcoop" means exactly
09:45:35  <Stablean> <V453000> should it?
09:45:41  <Stablean> <a sad dude> yes.
09:45:44  <Stablean> <V453000> why
09:45:55  <Stablean> <a sad dude> because it's not obvious
09:46:09  <Stablean> <V453000> openttd - obvious, coop = cooperation?
09:46:19  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt sound that hard to me :P
09:46:34  <Stablean> <a sad dude> and cooperation in what way?
09:46:44  <Stablean> <a sad dude> what is the goal of the game?
09:47:02  <Stablean> <V453000> see , the archives there, and eventually join the public server :)
09:47:04  <Stablean> <Anson> what is the goal of sim city ? :-)
09:47:08  <Stablean> <V453000> this server is not the "real" one
09:47:30  <Stablean> <a sad dude> ok ok
09:47:37  <Stablean> <V453000> there is also IRC available from
09:47:43  <Stablean> <a sad dude> I see that
09:47:45  <Stablean> <V453000> if you join that people can navigate you :)
09:48:15  <Stablean> <solo> V?
09:48:21  <Stablean> <a sad dude> I have joined that :D
09:48:31  <Stablean> <a sad dude> for example, what is the point of stages?
09:48:41  <Stablean> <solo> is there a reason there are some tracks with block signals for both directions?
09:48:52  <Stablean> <V453000> yes solo, and very important reasons
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09:48:56  <^Spike^> @quickstart
09:48:57  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
09:49:00  <Stablean> <V453000> see two-way signals on our wiki
09:49:07  <^Spike^> that's all i'll say V :D
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09:49:16  <V453000>
09:49:20  <Stablean> <solo> quickstart?;p
09:49:23  <Stablean> <solo> ok ty V
09:49:41  <Stablean> <V453000> in short solo, 2way signals divert traffic if they are red
09:49:59  <Stablean> <solo> ok
09:50:05  <Stablean> <solo> so its all part of the mergers
09:50:15  <Stablean> <r1kkie> V453000: EVG is stealing my wood. :(
09:50:15  <Stablean> <V453000> no
09:50:30  <Stablean> <V453000> evg is a bitch
09:50:39  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 15
09:50:39  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
09:50:53  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Boom problem solved. :P
09:51:16  <Stablean> <V453000> he bankrupted, your wood was poor quality
09:51:24  <Stablean> <V453000> didnt get paid
09:51:36  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Dont talk shit about my wood. ;)
09:51:50  <Stablean> <V453000> dduuuhh
09:52:04  <Stablean> <solo> 2way signals page doesnt exist
09:52:04  <Stablean> <solo> :>
09:52:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I just pasted the link from the actual page I am viewing ...
09:52:45  <Stablean> <solo> so weird
09:52:49  <Stablean> <V453000> go to wiki main page and ctrl+f for two
09:53:22  <V453000> a good example of using two-way signals is @@ABR04 @@ABR08 and @@ABR12
09:53:23  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 04: Overflows at #openttdcoop -
09:53:24  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 08: Overflows II at #openttdcoop -
09:53:25  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 12: Overflows III at #openttdcoop -
09:54:17  <Stablean> <solo> hmm i can see it working here too i suppose
09:54:24  <Stablean> <V453000> likely
09:55:42  <Stablean> <r1kkie> V453000: sry for the city growth, didnt know the rule. Just did it for fun. :P
09:55:49  <Stablean> <V453000> for next time :)
09:57:20  <Stablean> <solo> no room for a 4th lane V?:)
09:57:47  <Stablean> <V453000> just waiting for a new train
09:58:03  <Stablean> <V453000> got other things to do so probably wont expand anymore
09:58:49  <Stablean> <V453000> its at capacity but 3 can take it
09:59:11  <Stablean> <solo> new map anytime soon?
09:59:26  <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps in the evening
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10:00:37  <Stablean> <V453000> btw who noticed that my goods trains never go empty :)
10:01:07  <Stablean> <solo> :)
10:02:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i noticed that the 15th platform exists now :-)
10:03:33  <Stablean> <V453000> RAINBOW TIME FUCKERS
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10:04:49  <Stablean> <Dom> hm?
10:04:56  <Stablean> <V453000> look carefully
10:05:18  <Stablean> <Dom> xD red/ green/blue and changing trains
10:05:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol random colours :D
10:05:22  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
10:05:32  <Stablean> <V453000> not only colours
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10:05:42  <Stablean> <Dom> shadings
10:05:42  <Stablean> <V453000> rare chance to appear as something special
10:06:40  <Stablean> <V453000> so who finds it
10:06:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> I see a cat head on one :)
10:06:53  <Stablean> <V453000> Jam35 wins
10:07:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> #38
10:07:02  <Stablean> <solo> catheaD?:d
10:07:10  <Stablean> <V453000> train 118 and 38
10:07:24  <Stablean> <solo> haha
10:07:30  <Stablean> <solo> funny trains
10:07:36  <Stablean> <V453000> 453 too
10:07:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> 1 in 100 chance?
10:08:02  <Stablean> <V453000> aroundish
10:08:12  <Stablean> <solo> 453 just as your name
10:08:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ha
10:08:24  <Stablean> <solo> thats the special one
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10:08:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> occasional rainbow wagons too
10:08:54  <Stablean> <V453000> well, this si what new NUTS brings :P
10:09:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yes rainbow wagons are a lot more frequent though :)
10:09:05  <Stablean> <V453000> like 1/10
10:10:43  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
10:10:53  <Stablean> <V453000> btw if you watch the cat carefully, it has a message
10:11:03  <Stablean> <Anson> black tail and white head ?
10:11:13  <Stablean> <V453000> thats zebra slug, duh!
10:11:13  <Stablean> <Anson> for meech
10:11:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> I see btw do they stay that way now?
10:11:29  <Stablean> <V453000> stay what way
10:11:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> no randomness at stations etc
10:11:46  <Stablean> <V453000> ah, yes
10:11:52  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant even do that the way it is coded :)
10:11:56  <Stablean> <V453000> but I didnt want to either
10:12:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> two together :)
10:12:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> fair enuf
10:12:40  <Stablean> <V453000> no way Meech can complain now
10:12:50  <Stablean> <Anson> will we get chameleon trains one day, that adjust color to the purr tracks they drive on ? :-)
10:13:20  <Stablean> <V453000> cant do, nor would see a point to
10:13:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> that is a nice idea though
10:13:32  <Stablean> <V453000> you can buy only slugs with correct colour? :D
10:13:48  <Stablean> <Anson> it is what chameleons do, isn't it ? ... change color to the background ...
10:13:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
10:13:57  <Stablean> <V453000> they cant adapt on the run but hm :)
10:13:59  <Stablean> <V453000> not exactly
10:14:05  <Stablean> <V453000> they change colour based on mood mainly
10:14:11  <Stablean> <V453000> the background thing is mostly a myth
10:14:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> excuse not to do it :)
10:14:36  <Stablean> <V453000> I think at least
10:14:38  <Stablean> <Anson> and trains that look like ships or slugs are real ? :-)
10:14:48  <Stablean> <V453000> excuse is because it cant be done :)
10:15:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> guessed :)
10:17:26  <Stablean> <Anson> octopussies (ha, a cat in that too :-) can change color and shape perfectly to fit the background ... no myth ... maybe we will get octopus trains one day ...
10:18:17  <Stablean> <Anson> that change shape to their cargo
10:19:27  <Stablean> <Anson> not wagons with loaded animals, fruit, rubber ducks, etc, but animals, ducks, etc themselves, running on rails
10:19:49  <Stablean> <V453000> Anson stop talking and go draw it :)
10:21:06  <Stablean> <Anson> i got the best notes in school in art class only once when we had to do geometric shapes and similar ... else a 5 year old could do better
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11:14:22  <Stablean> <V453000> OBEY Bonningville
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11:15:37  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 15
11:15:37  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
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12:10:10  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :) I wonder if NUTS is viable for that ... since it is very balanced and offers many various train choices which are  ~ equal
12:14:34  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont know that ?:D
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12:17:43  <BoXcAr_MeEcH> O_o
12:17:57  <Stablean> <V453000> Meech come join the game immediately
12:18:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I have something for you
12:18:50  <V453000> YO BOXCAR :D
12:18:53  <V453000> go join that shit :)
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12:34:31  <V453000> BoXcAr_MeEcH: I am sad now
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16:35:27  <V453000> where is that lazy bastard Meech
16:35:31  <V453000> BoXcAr_MeEcH: ?
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16:54:50  <Stablean> <V453000> heyooo
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16:56:25  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
16:56:31  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yo
16:57:13  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Do we have a new map soon?
16:57:20  <Stablean> <V453000> dunno
16:57:26  <Stablean> <V453000> guess not
16:57:40  <Stablean> <r1kkie> :(
16:57:59  <Stablean> <V453000> you have nothing to build or what :d
16:58:25  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Well there is alot to build I guess. But my creativity is low at the moment. :P
16:58:39  <Stablean> <V453000> how does a new game change that :d
16:59:21  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Well a new map gives me some new creativitie
16:59:23  <Stablean> <r1kkie> :)
16:59:37  <Stablean> <V453000> well too bad :) go expand your stuff
16:59:52  <Stablean> <r1kkie> I dont know how... :/
17:00:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well you wont find out how until you try :)
17:00:22  <Stablean> <r1kkie> True
17:01:08  <Stablean> <V453000> upgrading trains might be a good idea as well
17:01:54  <Stablean> <r1kkie> lol thought I hade the fastest mono engine... :P
17:02:08  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont even have the fast class
17:02:34  <Stablean> <r1kkie> I meant in my class
17:02:40  <Stablean> <V453000> which does not necessarily have to be a problem :)
17:02:40  <Stablean> <r1kkie> :)
17:02:42  <Stablean> <V453000> ah
17:02:50  <Stablean> <V453000> well last ones came out in like ~2060 or something
17:03:08  <Stablean> <r1kkie> okok
17:03:10  <Stablean> <V453000> k 2050 this one
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17:03:24  <Stablean> <V453000> still, nothing beats rainbow slugs :P
17:03:47  <Stablean> <r1kkie> brb
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19:09:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi   all
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20:17:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi diablo  how things
20:17:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi happy
20:17:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> things r good...u?
20:18:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good thanks
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20:22:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice  net werk  diablo
20:23:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> :D
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20:23:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn  all  have fun
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20:56:58  <Dom_> !playercount
20:56:58  <Stablean> Dom_: Number of players: 3 (1 spectators)
20:57:00  <Dom_> !date
20:57:00  <Stablean> Dom_: 28 May 2149
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21:28:50  <Stablean> <V453000> mfb have you seen the blog btw? :P
21:28:54  <Stablean> <V453000> kinda finalized the thing :>
21:29:01  <Stablean> <V453000> ass wrong game
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21:34:02  <Stablean> <Freez> Hello
21:35:49  <V453000> ;hi
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21:37:47  <Stablean> <Anson> wow ... almost finished rebuilding, and i see no more big jams ... instead of having 20 trains in an overfklow, i now even could add another 20 trains
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21:45:00  <Stablean> <Freez> lol so many trains engineers here xD
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