Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 19th October 2013:
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00:06:42  <Stablean> <bon> still not sure I see what the point of double locos is but meh...may just replace it all with a single one later when I convert to monorail
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00:25:52  <Stablean> <bon> heh I hope soon I'll have a town with a population of more than 4000
00:26:02  <Stablean> <bon> just so I can be closer up there in the list with others :P
00:26:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
00:26:39  <Stablean> <bon> I mean.. I know I will never touch Fontown probaby but at least I can beat all the other towns a bit further down the list :P
00:26:55  <Stablean> <bon> passing Hindington should be easy ;)
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00:27:07  <Stablean> <bon> but heh its just a game so :P
00:29:39  <Stablean> <bon> btw I don't know why but I think its a bit silly that I have zombies running all over the place :)
00:29:57  <Stablean> <bon> (if you're confused..look at the loco name..enough said heh heh)
00:33:20  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy so what you working on? :)
00:34:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> working on something to eat :D
00:35:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> otherwise connecting farms atm
00:36:39  <Stablean> <bon> heh ok
00:36:51  <Stablean> <bon> i only have food+goods to do for most part here..but going take my time on that
00:37:05  <Stablean> <bon> and I probably need to manually fund a bank so I can use the two diamond mines sitting mocking me :-s
00:37:09  <Stablean> <bon> heh
00:37:25  <happy> bon u not going to up grade your tran line or your trans or ar u happy what u got so farm
00:37:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> decided this game to ignore everything that doesnt produce a secondary cargo
00:38:26  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...I see :)
00:38:40  <Stablean> <bon> I may eventually upgrade rails at some point too but .. thats probably more of tomorrow
00:39:34  <happy> ok
00:40:46  <Stablean> <bon> btw its funny but .. have a look at the cargo delivery chart
00:41:00  <Stablean> <bon> I'm almost evening up with andy even although I have much lower operating profits
00:41:02  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:41:40  <happy> how your net werk going  djanxy
00:41:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> a bit slow, but ok :D
00:43:22  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...your electric loco looks too weird with the empty pantographs on roof :p
00:43:29  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
00:43:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe ye
00:43:49  <Stablean> <bon> you always could pick either two diesels...much faster as well
00:44:07  <Stablean> <bon> but thats your call
00:44:07  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
00:44:29  <Stablean> <bon> I have the Zombie ones all over my rails :P
00:44:31  <Stablean> <bon> excluding the two pax loops
00:44:37  <Stablean> <bon> heh
00:44:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ill upgrade to Driving Darkness :)
00:45:04  <happy> how  your net werk going  bon
00:45:26  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok happy. its still more or less just as you saw it before :)
00:45:37  <Stablean> <bon> unless you hadn't seen the two separate passenger routes I built after supper
00:45:47  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> i should upgrade away from steam
00:45:54  <happy> nice  tran  djanxy
00:45:56  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> cannot be arsed though
00:46:03  <Stablean> <bon> heh didn't I comment on that a long time ago fehler? :P
00:46:09  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> y
00:48:03  <Stablean> <bon> going afk for a while anyway
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00:48:20  <happy> ok
00:49:19  <happy> djanxy can u just chek if i got eney tran q
00:49:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> looks fine
00:50:15  <happy> ok thanks
00:52:36  <happy> i hate that when u get a good net werk going and u go to bed and  the nexs day its all gon
00:53:13  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> maybe we should ask V if he can switch off dissapearing industries
00:53:23  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> for the nxt map
00:53:54  <happy> y
00:56:22  <happy> is ther sum thin rone whive the disspearing industries fehlersturm
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01:53:24  <Stablean> <bon> back for a bit before going to bed :)
01:53:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no way
01:53:49  <Stablean> <bon> what? :P
01:58:43  <Stablean> <bon> and I see I got to 2nd place in town list....just exactly where I had wanted it heh
01:59:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
02:00:04  <Stablean> <bon> will deal with the freight aspect tomorrow due to sleeping soon tho
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02:06:04  <Stablean> <bon> hmm I kinda forgot...was it tractive or power that gets the train up to full speed?
02:06:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> think it's a combo of both ?
02:07:29  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...hmm...well I'm trying to figure if I should go from MEDIUM to FAST or not... more power but less tractive :-s
02:09:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> got my farm island set up now - here's for hoping they survive
02:09:35  <Stablean> <bon> to hell with it I'm going FAST and see what happens
02:10:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> reckon it will be ok with double engine
02:10:15  <Stablean> <bon> hmm you know what..I think its more power than tractive then
02:10:37  <Stablean> <bon> it seem to be able to hit 100kph faster
02:11:27  <Stablean> <bon> talk about flying copper ore at 191kph :P
02:11:42  <Stablean> <bon> anyway going to bed...I hope the last two autoreplace works without me
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05:05:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
05:05:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> woop woop
05:09:11  <BiG_MeEcH> woOOooOOOooOOOOoOOOoooooooOOoooOOooOOoOOOooOOoooOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOooooOOOoooooO!!!!@
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05:12:39  <Sylf> !date
05:12:39  <Stablean> Sylf: 22 Jan 1993
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05:15:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> better
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05:15:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
05:16:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> We have people building on top of each other again
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05:19:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i think Fehler was transporting iron TO the mill when Red was completely jammed earlier
05:19:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh
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05:19:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> still
05:20:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'd rather see the company fail than people trying to help like that
05:20:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i guess
05:20:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's better to fail once or twice and learn the lesson for good
05:20:58  <BiG_MeEcH> yo
05:21:13  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
05:21:32  <BiG_MeEcH> lots of people building trans continental too
05:21:35  <BiG_MeEcH> again
05:22:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> never fails
05:22:19  <BiG_MeEcH> We need a map with lots of islands
05:22:40  <BiG_MeEcH> maybe then they will quit
05:22:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
05:22:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> go ahead and try making maps like that
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05:23:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's not always easy
05:24:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> btw, checked out my horsies ?
05:24:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> RV?
05:24:33  <BiG_MeEcH> neigh!
05:24:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> at my iron drop
05:25:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> RV ?
05:25:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah
05:25:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> road vehicle ?
05:25:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> Road vehicles
05:25:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah - just for the luls
05:25:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ore mine in walking distance of iron drop
05:26:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> Yes, I've seen only a few of those buggies on this server before... sure....
05:26:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> huh
05:26:34  <BiG_MeEcH> they need to render a guy with a wheelbarrow or something
05:26:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> heh
05:28:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> wait what
05:28:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> bon is actually building a network?!
05:28:23  <BiG_MeEcH> start the game at year 0, guy would have a elephant
05:28:36  <BiG_MeEcH> I think bon has built stuff before
05:28:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah sylf, looks like it
05:28:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> more or less anyways
05:28:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> He has built collections of point-to-point transports before
05:29:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup
05:29:47  <BiG_MeEcH> Bon will be pro soon
05:30:04  <BiG_MeEcH> then convert all rail to PUrr
05:30:10  <BiG_MeEcH> with inflation on
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05:34:37  <BiG_MeEcH> :)
05:40:52  <BiG_MeEcH> woo!
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07:02:01  <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> Hello everyone
07:02:04  <Stablean> <Ars> рш
07:02:10  <Stablean> <Ars> yi
07:02:26  <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> никого нет.
07:02:36  <Stablean> <Ars> ye b kfly
07:02:40  <Stablean> <Ars> ну и ладн
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07:04:22  <Stablean> <Ars> глянь табл
07:04:53  <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> там нет никаких предприятий.
07:05:01  <Stablean> <Ars> есть
07:05:11  <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> ну строй тогда.
07:09:53  <Stablean> <Ars> lj,fdbk
07:10:00  <Stablean> <Ars> добавил
07:11:22  <Stablean> <Ars> звонить?
07:16:20  <Stablean> <Ars> ок
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07:45:08  <Stablean> <Ars> ты здесь?
07:55:40  <Stablean> <Ars> да
07:56:02  <Stablean> <Ars> нужен продуктовый
07:57:12  <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> столько всякой фигни понастроил, даже не знаю что фиксить.
07:59:18  <Stablean> <Ars> ок
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09:02:45  <Stablean> <V453000> heyo
09:02:47  <Stablean> <Berkel> hi
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09:48:45  <Stablean> <Ars> hi Jam35
09:48:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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10:05:52  <Stablean> <V453000> wat up
10:05:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> idk
10:06:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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10:12:54  <Stablean> <bon> geeze was someone asleep at the keyboard again? :-\
10:12:58  <Stablean> <bon> oh well heh :)
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10:14:40  <Stablean> <bon> berkel seriously did you really have to build like that? I needed to be able to add pickup stations and now I can't
10:14:55  <Stablean> <Berkel> where?
10:15:49  <Stablean> <bon> water tower no.1 ..  papermill no.1 ... steelmill no.1
10:18:23  <Stablean> <bon> at least thankfully you're online now so it'll be easy foro me to point out where my platforms was supposed to be years ago
10:18:58  <Stablean> <Berkel> i just try to find an alternative route, but its complicated due to steep hils / cliffs / bridges
10:20:40  <Stablean> <bon> berkel...well...I can't build underground so that means the pickup platforms still have to go somewhere within catchment distance and still be able to hook onto the existing rails
10:20:43  <Stablean> <bon> know what I'm saying?
10:21:15  <Stablean> <Berkel> ...
10:21:31  <Stablean> <Berkel> reedit your tracks / and me too?
10:21:41  <Stablean> <Berkel> just need 2 lines to go south to the mine
10:21:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> If you remove the Faborough line completely you can have some copper at, say, New Dronfingburg
10:21:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> ?
10:22:08  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm yeah thats the only one single line I'm a little worried about
10:22:14  <Stablean> <bon> the others can stay as they are..for now
10:23:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> Berkel: some copper !here instead?
10:23:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> and remove that line
10:23:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> (signed this)
10:23:46  <Stablean> <bon> btw hi doing?
10:23:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi good thanks how's you?
10:24:02  <Stablean> <bon> me finally catching up with my delayed freight upgrade plan... monorail + some new food+good pickup stations etc
10:24:08  <Stablean> <bon> then just minor tweakings .. I hope!
10:24:10  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:24:33  <Stablean> <bon> may have to rebuild my odd papermill station so I can get the new platforms in tho - we wil have to see :p
10:25:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> okay ... :)
10:25:47  <Jam35> !players
10:25:50  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 116 (White) is Jam35, in company 7 (Jam35 Transport)
10:25:50  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 108 (Yellow) is Berkel, in company 10 (Berk´s small Goods)
10:25:50  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 122 (Brown) is bon, in company 1 (Just Nutty)
10:27:21  <Stablean> <Berkel> enjoy the space :D
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10:28:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> copper is there
10:29:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> you can thank happy later :p
10:29:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> (his money)
10:29:27  <Stablean> <bon> haha... I doubt he will ever notice it anyway ;)
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10:30:21  <Stablean> <travstr> is this a new map?
10:30:31  <Stablean> <Berkel> seems to be ^^
10:30:38  <Stablean> <travstr> and it's already full V.v
10:30:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> not really
10:30:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> 1920 start
10:31:09  <Stablean> <travstr> ....when did it get reset tho
10:31:24  <Stablean> <Berkel> last one was resetted 23xx ^^
10:31:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> Berkel/Bon I meant remove that whole line but if you are both happy now?
10:32:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> too many crossings imo
10:32:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> wha?
10:33:03  <Stablean> <travstr> oh nothing lol
10:33:13  <Stablean> <travstr> there's a sign here that says '!jam'
10:33:19  <Stablean> <travstr> so i wondered if it does anything
10:33:29  <Stablean> <travstr> it does not,
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10:40:08  <Stablean> <Berkel> Why is inflation enabled this time? I thought its off usually?
10:40:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> sometimes on sometimes off
10:40:48  <Stablean> <bon> btw I'm just asking...rather than keeping talking back n forth about finally me getting the station to fit in .. I'll just make this offer...
10:41:12  <Stablean> <bon> berkel..if I paid you much more than what 10+ years of copper profit would be from that one mine would you be willing to pull up the line?
10:41:19  <Stablean> <bon> ^_^
10:41:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> I already asked that...
10:41:33  <Stablean> <bon> oh heh sorry :)
10:41:36  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm confused about who's lines are who's
10:41:46  <Stablean> <Berkel> ???
10:41:49  <Stablean> <travstr> berkel do you have these's 'copper pick' lines?
10:41:59  <Stablean> <Berkel> you need the forest at faborough?
10:42:03  <Stablean> <travstr> cause the yellow colours are hard to work out
10:42:13  <Stablean> <Berkel> or why should i reset the copper line there?
10:42:16  <Stablean> <bon> but I need the station space a bit further up the line
10:42:26  <Stablean> <bon> so I'll pay you the equival value
10:42:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> because it crosses bon's line many times
10:42:58  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i see
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10:44:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> And Berkel (if you read the chat) I gave you a replacement copper @ New Dronfingburg
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10:45:28  <Stablean> <Berkel> ahh, now i got it *g*. you placed a new copper mine. THANKS :D
10:45:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> you started to remove the line...
10:45:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> but moved it over
10:45:57  <Stablean> <travstr> what's the station spread limit?
10:46:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> Advanced settings -> stations
10:46:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> 12 btw
10:46:28  <Stablean> <travstr> cba...
10:46:50  <Stablean> <travstr> the advanced settings is long
10:46:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> two clicks
10:47:02  <Stablean> <travstr> two clicks too many
10:47:32  <Stablean> <bon> and heres the promised $ for the 'lost' copper :)
10:47:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> (jeez)
10:47:49  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...I know I noticed it too :-s
10:48:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> 2 clicks?? bone idle more like :P
10:48:47  <Stablean> <travstr> kay bye
10:48:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> :(
10:49:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> asking the question in chat takes longer? :)
10:49:47  <Stablean> <bon> heh true :)
10:50:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> but don't get upset ... :)
10:50:21  <Stablean> <travstr> who are you talking to lol
10:50:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> ffs
10:50:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> YOU! :)
10:50:48  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i'm confused what i the topic of discussion
10:50:51  <Stablean> <travstr> is**
10:51:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> press ` key...
10:51:19  <Stablean> <travstr> cba
10:51:33  <Stablean> <travstr> one button press too many
10:51:33  <Stablean> <bon> jam35 I think we have someone who is lazy in a backward way
10:51:44  <Stablean> <bon> he's happy to keep typing and typing but refuse to press a single key eh?
10:51:58  <Stablean> <travstr> lol I pressed it ages ago
10:52:09  <Stablean> <travstr> but I didn't need to cause i read the chat
10:52:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> or just on a wind up :p
10:52:21  <Stablean> <Berkel> so, bon. you have your space
10:53:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> ty Berkel (but you missed some bridges)
10:53:02  <Stablean> <bon> good..just working on some trains first then will do a major rebuild for new steel/goods platforms in the area :)
10:53:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice 1
10:54:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> Bon now all your expansion is good to go
10:55:38  <Stablean> <bon> thanks...I'll let you know if theres somehow a 2nd problem but that seem really unlikely with my one major area being clear atm :)
10:56:08  <Stablean> <travstr> everything is so damn expensive
10:56:16  <Stablean> <travstr> even flattening a simple hill is 100k lmaooo
10:56:27  <Stablean> <bon> why can't you just go over it?
10:56:35  <Stablean> <travstr> diagonal tracks
10:56:45  <Stablean> <bon> just find a S curve? :)
10:56:55  <Stablean> <travstr> i did in the end
10:57:13  <Stablean> <bon> yeah its not like monorails care for using a lot of curves
10:57:17  <Stablean> <bon> as long as they're not too sharp
10:57:33  <Stablean> <travstr> how do you know i'm using monorails :o
10:57:37  <Stablean> <travstr> or are you guessing
10:57:48  <Stablean> <bon> its obvious ... single fat metal line :P
10:57:59  <Stablean> <bon> heh
10:58:29  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL bridges are 33mil
10:58:35  <Stablean> <travstr> what the hell is this
10:58:41  <Stablean> <bon>'re  trying to build on water thats why
10:58:51  <Stablean> <bon> move to a more land tile and you'll see it costs just pennies
10:59:09  <Stablean> <travstr> not really 'pennies' but ok
10:59:20  <Stablean> <bon> heh well.. compared to that price you quoted I guess :)
10:59:30  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i'm using the bridge tool soooo what is the issue that makes it cost millions of pounds
10:59:56  <Stablean> <bon> travstr....building on water tiles = $$$ .. building the bridge on dry land = .$
10:59:59  <Stablean> <Berkel> if the tile contains water -> costs are up
11:00:01  <Stablean> <bon> thats the only way I can sum it up atm
11:03:40  <Stablean> <travstr> is a lower loading speed better or worse?
11:03:47  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...depending on the speed to match
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11:04:17  <Stablean> <travstr> h ok
11:04:19  <Stablean> <bon> eg 210kph with loading 2 may be slower on average than 191kph with loading 12 for example ... I'm not too sure exactly about the math tho
11:04:29  <Stablean> <travstr> oh
11:04:29  <Stablean> <bon> so don't take it as it is :)
11:04:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> if the train has low loading speed it has another advantage in some way
11:04:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> not necessarily just speed
11:04:57  <Stablean> <bon> mmm yeah true.... long distance may also factor in too
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11:06:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> M
11:06:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
11:06:54  <Stablean> <Berkel> whats the use of those different track colors? just for fun?
11:07:00  <Stablean> <Maraxus> hi :)
11:07:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> if you like, or marking certain tracks, whatever you want
11:08:25  <Stablean> <bon> I'm using it also only because it allows both rail and monorail vehicles on at the same time
11:08:32  <Stablean> <bon> makes for so much easier upgrading ;)
11:08:54  <Stablean> <travstr> well you could use rail for now then upgrade to universal later
11:09:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes that needed mentioning, they are universal rail
11:09:04  <Stablean> <bon> universal looks weird with a mono train
11:09:54  <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder how much tunnels cost :///
11:10:04  <Stablean> <travstr> a lot.
11:10:06  <Stablean> <bon> hold down shift key and find out :P
11:10:08  <Stablean> <travstr> i did
11:10:14  <Stablean> <travstr> 131k for like 6 tiles
11:10:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> not that much really
11:10:16  <Stablean> <bon> make sure both ends are on a flat tile
11:10:23  <Stablean> <bon> 131? sounds like you're not looking again :)
11:10:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> as long as no tf is used
11:10:50  <Stablean> <travstr> do you want a screenshot?
11:11:00  <Stablean> <travstr> 131,932 for five tiles
11:11:07  <Stablean> <bon> what did I already told you?
11:11:11  <Stablean> <bon> and so did jam35 too
11:11:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not flattening this land
11:11:25  <Stablean> <travstr> because it costs too much
11:11:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> what currency?
11:11:34  <Stablean> <travstr> £
11:11:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> 23k here
11:11:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> 5 tiles
11:11:56  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm that's with flat land tho
11:12:03  <Stablean> <travstr> however i have found a place with flat land
11:12:09  <Stablean> <travstr> and it costs 24k
11:12:43  <Stablean> <Berkel> How´s things on your small petite island? @jam :D
11:12:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> quiet
11:13:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> 24k would be 6 tiles?
11:13:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> 29k
11:13:48  <Stablean> <travstr> length: 5
11:13:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> farm land?
11:14:00  <Stablean> <travstr> no
11:14:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> is more
11:14:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> put a sign
11:14:55  <Stablean> <travstr> i did
11:15:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> monorail yes 24k
11:15:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> go over
11:15:33  <Stablean> <travstr> i know that's why i said it
11:15:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> :P
11:15:39  <Stablean> <travstr> i dont actually want to make a tunnel ther ethough
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11:15:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's not much
11:15:48  <Stablean> <travstr> the tunnel i want is above the line
11:16:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i know it's not much i can afford it, the one i want to make isn't there >.>
11:18:38  <Stablean> <travstr> i assume the 'CLEAN purr' is universal too
11:18:44  <Stablean> <travstr> that looks better for monorails
11:18:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
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11:19:06  <Stablean> <bon> any pur is :P  I use it as "this is not on any assigned routes"
11:19:20  <Stablean> <bon> green is raw ... blue is finished .. yellow is mix of both trains
11:19:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> careful though it is expensive
11:19:25  <Stablean> <travstr> i know that
11:19:28  <Stablean> <bon> (thats my take anyway)
11:19:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi HT
11:19:45  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy
11:19:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi all
11:19:59  <Stablean> <bon> just in middle of upgrading so much .. plus I still have to build new stations too :-s
11:20:09  <Stablean> <bon> thankful for doing a direct rail>monorail train swap ;)
11:20:33  <Stablean> <bon> kinda funny to have two very different speeds clash together but ah well :)
11:20:36  <Stablean> <bon> better than a total shutdown ;)
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11:25:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things  going
11:26:09  <Stablean> <bon> still rather slow...too many old diesels left :P
11:26:09  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
11:26:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> he  he
11:27:22  <Stablean> <bon> at least removing the 2nd loco managed to upper the total train capacity a bit :)
11:27:36  <Stablean> <bon> plus extra speed... so mm yeah good for low traffic ratio :)
11:34:47  <Stablean> <bon> at least theres not many diesels left now :)
11:35:19  <Stablean> <travstr> how you gonna have 128 trains and not group a single one lolll
11:36:58  <Stablean> <bon> who has 128?
11:37:04  <Stablean> <travstr> tra
11:37:07  <Stablean> <travstr> tran
11:37:17  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh let him be :)
11:37:27  <Stablean> <travstr> doesn't bother me
11:37:33  <Stablean> <travstr> it just has to be confusing :o
11:37:39  <Stablean> <bon> I only do it because of autoreplace
11:38:09  <Stablean> <bon> be back in a few minutes tho
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12:03:51  <Stablean> <travstr> l0l
12:03:57  <Stablean> <bon> ?
12:04:07  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
12:04:14  <Stablean> <bon> whats 'l0l'?
12:04:18  <Stablean> <travstr> u
12:04:32  <Stablean> <bon> ?
12:04:38  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
12:04:49  <Stablean> <bon> what is 'l0l' again?
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12:15:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr  see  my sign
12:15:48  <Stablean> <travstr> 'this'
12:15:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  u  going to  doo sume trans   whive that forest
12:16:05  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but i have nearly no money
12:16:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
12:16:20  <Stablean> <travstr> so i'm trying to do multiple things to get money to do that
12:16:26  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm doing other things first
12:16:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  much  doo u need
12:17:04  <Stablean> <travstr> about 100k more, should take a year to get or so
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12:21:32  <Stablean> <travstr> oh god i'm so in debt
12:21:38  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
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12:27:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  your  net  werk  going jam
12:29:06  * BiG_MeEcH slaps Jam35 around a bit with a large fishbot
12:29:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi big  meech  how  things
12:29:45  * BiG_MeEcH slaps happy around a bit with a large fishbot
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12:30:58  <Jam35> stoppit
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12:31:05  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm at max loan oops
12:31:07  <Stablean> <travstr> cry
12:31:09  <BiG_MeEcH> no :P
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12:38:34  <Stablean> <bon> back for short time again
12:38:38  <BiG_MeEcH> yo bon!
12:38:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb   bon
12:38:49  <BiG_MeEcH> I am good Happy Transport :D
12:39:01  <BiG_MeEcH> but seeya for now
12:39:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
12:39:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> woo  toffel   has  a tran  jam
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12:41:10  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooooo
12:41:44  <Stablean> <bon> hm still a few diesels left but I need to afk again..oh well will let it gum up for a bit longer :-s
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12:53:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy you should have upgraded to 'reckoning'
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12:54:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> not superbeast :)
12:54:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe?
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13:01:17  <Stablean> <travstr> oops
13:01:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok    i mite  go a  tran q    but  give  it time  i am up grad  my trans
13:02:01  <Stablean> <travstr> tran q
13:02:07  <Stablean> <travstr> what are you talking again
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13:02:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy they are all heading to that same depot because the station is roro
13:03:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see
13:03:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> depot after station only really works with terminus
13:03:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> or put a reverser after station
13:03:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem ok
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13:04:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> there
13:04:41  <Stablean> <travstr> omg this passenger train has saved my company
13:04:47  <Stablean> <travstr> holy crap da monies
13:04:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see  like that  thanks
13:04:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> now they cant see it til after the reverser
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13:05:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
13:05:43  <Stablean> <travstr> ok happy i'm going to do something with the forest now
13:05:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol now they all turn around at Wrafingburg
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13:11:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> well you have a lot of roro stations
13:11:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> a
13:12:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar   thats  not good
13:12:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> a station at one end of the route should really be terminus
13:12:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
13:12:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> or have a reverser
13:12:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
13:13:02  <Stablean> <travstr> what is a reverser
13:13:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> or you could build some service centre that will probably jam at replacements
13:13:47  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i think i see a 'reverser'
13:14:45  <Stablean> <travstr> yep
13:14:49  <Stablean> <travstr> i was looking at that
13:14:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
13:14:54  <Stablean> <travstr> ty
13:15:12  <Stablean> <travstr> whoa
13:15:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> makes the depot after 'invisible' to the pathfinder
13:15:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> until the section right before
13:15:52  <Stablean> <travstr> ohhhhhh
13:16:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> makes replacing trains 'nicer'
13:16:48  <Stablean> <travstr> ohhhhh okay
13:17:03  <Stablean> <travstr> so the trains won't realise there's a depot until it's right in their face
13:17:07  <Stablean> <travstr> smart.
13:17:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> exactly then all trains don't head there and jam the network
13:17:39  <Stablean> <travstr> i should use that more often v.v
13:17:49  <Stablean> <travstr> that's actually very smart hm
13:18:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> it works nice
13:18:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  is  overflow  tern on
13:18:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> and place them after a terminus station
13:18:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> beacuse they cant be seen there either
13:19:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> where are you looking happy?
13:19:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> at  the goods  pike up
13:19:35  <Stablean> <travstr> ah okay
13:20:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's on
13:21:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> what goods pickup? Prarnville North?
13:21:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes    see  my sign
13:22:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> the  overflo dus not werk
13:22:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> two way signals would help
13:22:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok
13:22:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
13:23:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> should work now
13:23:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
13:23:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
13:23:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> k
13:23:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> let's see
13:23:40  <Stablean> <travstr> these train names are funny.
13:23:48  <Stablean> <travstr> and the 'odd' train class is very interesting.
13:24:14  <Stablean> <travstr> omg this train is making nearly 900k a year
13:24:16  <Stablean> <travstr> GET MONEY
13:24:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem      nop  stil dont   werk
13:25:17  <Stablean> <bon> back now and the game on a shared server? because it seem like its starting that random lag again :-s
13:25:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ther  we go
13:26:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> yeah idk dumbass trains
13:26:44  <Stablean> <bon> or noone sure?
13:26:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> no lag here
13:27:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> normally i'm first to suffer
13:27:31  <Stablean> <travstr> little bit laggy.
13:27:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> must be your connection
13:27:46  <Stablean> <travstr> *tears
13:27:48  <Stablean> <bon> you too
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13:28:04  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah it's stuttery
13:28:10  <Stablean> <travstr> but it's not too bad
13:28:28  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...well I had to quit on one game because it almost was like sitting at oct 2 .. leap to oct 5 .. .and repeat
13:28:34  <Stablean> <bon> almost unuseable :|
13:28:48  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
13:28:50  <Stablean> <bon> but meh lets see if this server computer isn't....borked :)
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13:29:44  <Stablean> <travstr> lol wat
13:29:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> took too long to join
13:30:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> ...
13:30:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> y  dus  berkel  doo  he  net werk  net  nexs  to  me
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13:30:36  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
13:31:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> idk
13:31:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> already had him remove some stuff
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13:31:40  <Stablean> <travstr> yay
13:31:43  <Stablean> <travstr> more people
13:31:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
13:31:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
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13:31:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> that's not too bad near you
13:31:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
13:31:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
13:31:57  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
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13:33:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i need  to   ade  won mor  forest  so i can doo  sume papper  trans
13:33:30  <Stablean> <mickdermack> happy, are you still testing the overflow, or why are there 2 trains stopped at prarnville?
13:33:48  <Stablean> <mickdermack> north*
13:33:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> oops :) ty
13:34:12  <Stablean> <mickdermack> np
13:34:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh no, my horsies cant keep up anymore
13:34:48  <Stablean> <travstr> i feel like the overflow isn't working as intended
13:35:06  <Stablean> <travstr> but never mind.
13:35:17  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...lets just hope the server cures itself otherwise...yeah we may have to quit early
13:35:23  <Stablean> <bon> lets just see what happens in a few more years
13:35:38  <Stablean> <travstr> but i was just getting started :(
13:35:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam     can u tunnel this
13:35:40  <Stablean> <travstr> wah wah wah
13:35:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cures itself of what ?
13:36:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> or  i can  go   under  it
13:36:15  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...the lag rips....this is the 2nd map to start having it
13:36:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> k 2 minutes
13:36:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha
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13:42:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks jam
13:42:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> yw
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13:43:30  <Stablean> <travstr> ruh roh my first jam
13:43:32  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
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13:57:14  <Stablean> <bon> hmm is there only two generations of MEDIUM monorail locos?
13:57:40  <Stablean> <bon> and btw the lags seem to have gone away ehhh
13:58:42  <Stablean> <bon> just wondering if I
13:58:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> 4 x mono medium
13:58:50  <Stablean> <bon> I'm stuck wit Gravastar or not*
13:58:54  <Stablean> <bon> 4....ah ok..thanks
13:59:04  <Stablean> <bon> so at least I can expect some speed bump later then...cheers
13:59:30  <Stablean> <bon> I find the Timewave Zero electrics a bit funny to look at...not sure why
13:59:36  <Stablean> <bon> must be their purple-ish roof :)
13:59:51  <Stablean> <bon> at least compared to the earlier trainset they're only 10kph slower but carries a LOT more :)
14:00:02  <Stablean> <bon> 390 vs 576 and I didn't change the consist makeup
14:00:08  <Stablean> <bon> :p
14:00:51  <Stablean> <travstr> speaking of gravastar i'd better upgrade
14:00:53  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm
14:01:00  <Stablean> <travstr> *getting money*
14:01:06  <Stablean> <bon> oh right I forgot I still have these crappy smelly diesels >_<
14:02:36  <Stablean> <bon> going replace with electric for now..can't be bothered trying to upgrade them manually atm
14:03:02  <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean
14:03:09  <Stablean> <travstr> oh replace the rails?
14:03:19  <Stablean> <bon> no...the train themself
14:03:34  <Stablean> <travstr> no but why not upgrade straight to mono then
14:03:36  <Stablean> <bon> they pass by the depot fully loaded...not a good time to send them into depot like that
14:03:42  <Stablean> <travstr> unless you're not using universal
14:03:48  <Stablean> <travstr> o
14:03:54  <Stablean> <bon> am more busy with other things atm :)
14:05:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> Jam35   doo u need  sume   muney
14:05:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> i'm fine ty
14:05:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
14:05:25  <Stablean> <bon> can I say he took some before?  :P  hehehehe sorry ;)
14:05:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> I helped bon with your money :)
14:05:57  <Stablean> <bon> more like berk...not me :)
14:06:03  <Stablean> <bon> but mm
14:06:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> well both i suppose
14:06:13  <Stablean> <bon> aye
14:06:21  <Stablean> <bon> I got one more new station in..still need to work the 2nd one soon
14:06:47  <Stablean> <bon> and I finally don't have rails anywhere anymore :)
14:07:37  <Stablean> <bon> (if anyone is wondering.. green = raw .. blue = finished goods .. red = express/passenger .. gray = "unused" in a manner speaking
14:07:52  <Stablean> <bon> and 'yellow' is just when both green+blue get mixed together
14:08:02  <Stablean> <bon> talk about me and my funny color coding routes :P
14:09:08  <Stablean> <bon> I may try play with one WET route soon tho..just for fun :)
14:09:26  <Stablean> <travstr> i was wondering what hte point of them was actually
14:09:28  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
14:09:35  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :)
14:09:41  <Stablean> <travstr> wet rails
14:09:55  <Stablean> <bon> they're for the matching vehicles...these can't really run on anything else to put it aptly
14:10:17  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
14:10:23  <Stablean> <bon> they're the ones that look like actual boats in the buy list btw
14:10:31  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i checked it out earlier
14:10:37  <Stablean> <bon> np :)
14:10:47  <Stablean> <travstr> not yeah why anyone would use them for anything legit but yeah
14:10:49  <Stablean> <travstr> so slow lol
14:10:55  <Stablean> <bon> not really
14:11:03  <Stablean> <travstr> 120 kmh
14:11:15  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wait
14:11:20  <Stablean> <bon> 1. they have very quick loading time for long consists  2. they don't care for steep routes even with 90 degree corners in middle 3. cheap  4. etc
14:11:22  <Stablean> <travstr> can you use locks and stuff?
14:11:34  <Stablean> <travstr> like do they go over water?
14:11:37  <Stablean> <travstr> actual water
14:11:51  <Stablean> <bon> ummm why do you think its in the TRAIN list..not BOAT list
14:11:53  <Stablean> <bon> heh
14:12:03  <Stablean> <travstr> god i was just asking >.>
14:12:07  <Stablean> <travstr> they are boats after all
14:12:17  <Stablean> <bon> boats maybe but not normal boats :)
14:12:27  <Stablean> <bon> if you want wait a bit I'll build a route in a moment .. and you can see :)
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14:28:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back    in 10,imts
14:28:07  <Stablean> <bon> ok
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14:28:35  <Stablean> <travstr> i have returned from my slumber
14:29:12  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
14:33:11  <Stablean> <travstr> i think berk has a jam
14:33:15  <Stablean> <travstr> cause his profits went DOWN
14:33:43  <Stablean> <bon> nope
14:33:49  <Stablean> <bon> just lack of city catchment
14:33:56  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i'm looking around and there is no
14:33:58  <Stablean> <travstr> jam
14:34:13  <Stablean> <travstr> how unexciting
14:34:15  <Stablean> <travstr> :/
14:35:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  am  back
14:35:21  <Stablean> <travstr> welcome back.
14:35:28  <Stablean> <travstr> to the  land of fun and games.
14:36:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
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14:38:53  <Stablean> <travstr> jesus when will this monorail medium upgrade come out .______.
14:40:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> ~2030
14:40:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> so soon
14:40:09  <Stablean> <travstr> so about now
14:40:11  <Stablean> <travstr> hm ok
14:40:15  <Stablean> <bon> you mean the one i got offered to test drive? :P
14:40:21  <Stablean> <travstr> >.>
14:40:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> aha
14:41:30  <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol everyone's using the universal wagons :/
14:41:41  <Stablean> <bon> umm what you asking?
14:42:03  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not asking anything i just noticed that everyone aside from me is using the universal train wagons
14:42:05  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
14:42:12  <Stablean> <travstr> i feel like i'm missing out.
14:43:22  <Stablean> <bon> hmm jam can I ask you a quick favour?
14:47:17  <Stablean> <bon> afk? :-s
14:47:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> hello
14:47:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> whatsup
14:47:59  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
14:48:02  <Stablean> <bon> heh happy...seem both of us funded our own printing works eh? :)
14:48:09  <Stablean> <travstr> oh it's out
14:48:11  <Stablean> <travstr> omg yes!
14:48:37  <Stablean> <travstr> oh dat speed
14:48:39  <Stablean> <travstr> beautiful
14:48:46  <Stablean> <bon> jam...well the thing is.. one of berk's lazy monorail is in the way of being able to make a tunnel .. you mind raising two tiles for me?
14:49:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> hm
14:49:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> sign?
14:49:16  <Stablean> <bon> I signed it
14:49:55  <Stablean> <bon> don't worry about the other section...these can wait for him to actually show up
14:50:05  <Stablean> <bon> this is the only one thats a bit needy atm
14:50:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> well you can simply move that loop over
14:50:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> and tunnel 1 tile to the right
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14:51:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> ^^ :)
14:51:35  <Stablean> <bon> hmm....I didn't quite think of that one...but heh...ty to show someone else the amusement in boats
14:51:45  <Stablean> <travstr> >.>
14:53:15  <Stablean> <bon> there first super-long boat out now
14:53:21  <Stablean> <bon> have fun watching it if you want :P
14:53:27  <Stablean> <travstr> idk where ti is
14:53:33  <Stablean> <travstr> so I can wait.
14:53:35  <Stablean> <bon> check train 52 in my list fyi :)
14:53:42  <Stablean> <travstr> maybe later
14:53:49  <Stablean> <bon> ok
14:55:40  <Stablean> <travstr> okay i'll look at the boats :p
14:55:50  <Stablean> <bon> its train 52 and 53 now :)
14:56:00  <Stablean> <bon> they're kinda silly I know :)
14:56:18  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah...
14:56:49  <Stablean> <travstr> how much did those bridges cost?
14:56:56  <Stablean> <travstr> or should i say aqueducts.
14:57:07  <Stablean> <bon> same as for rails/erails
14:57:09  <Stablean> <travstr> across the water
14:57:15  <Stablean> <travstr> seriously lmao
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15:00:22  <Stablean> <travstr> bleh
15:00:35  <Stablean> <travstr> hey player
15:00:41  <Stablean> <travstr> hw u doin gurlfren
15:02:12  <Stablean> <travstr> uranium? lol wtf
15:03:50  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...mind you I at least once did have a game that was 100% wetrail all over the place .. har har :P
15:03:57  <Stablean> <bon> still thinking about it again for another map ;)
15:04:04  <Stablean> <travstr> ummmm
15:04:10  <Stablean> <travstr> that sounds really terrible
15:04:16  <Stablean> <travstr> but i suppose..
15:04:20  <Stablean> <bon> actually it was good...they have high capacity in a way
15:04:31  <Stablean> <travstr> that's what i was thinking
15:04:38  <Stablean> <travstr> i was gonna say, you'd need a lot of them
15:04:40  <Stablean> <bon> the tug doesn't exactly like a lot of slopes tho so its a compromise
15:04:46  <Stablean> <travstr> o
15:05:06  <Stablean> <travstr> wow 990 crates of goods a time
15:05:09  <Stablean> <travstr> not bad.
15:05:35  <Stablean> <bon> btw for comparsion sake.. the 3rd gen universal wagon only can carry 35 goods per.. while the barge can carry 40 each with a much better loading speed too
15:05:53  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
15:05:59  <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather not compare to the 1st gen .. which only has 24 crates and a slow loading time
15:06:00  <Stablean> <bon> :)
15:06:14  <Stablean> <bon> so yeah its a matter of whether your network has stations all bunched close together or not
15:06:34  <Stablean> <bon> I theriocally could had converted everything except pax to wetrail but ... its a bit too late into game for that atm
15:07:12  <Stablean> <travstr> forgetting to refit trains and wondering why they're always empty :/
15:07:22  <Stablean> <bon> heh :->
15:07:34  <Stablean> <travstr> so maybe universal wagons are better after all
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15:08:44  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm....yeah...I should just start with a few rail trains till the ships comes out then go wetrail-crazy again in next game :P
15:08:57  <Stablean> <bon> wonder what djanxy will say seeing its not the first time he's seen me doing that
15:08:57  <Stablean> <bon> :)
15:09:19  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
15:09:40  <Stablean> <bon> travstr and you want know what I called my company? something along The Soggy Way
15:09:42  <Stablean> <bon> :p
15:09:45  <Stablean> <travstr> makes perfect sense :p
15:09:47  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
15:09:55  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe yeah .. and I was making silly captain remarks too
15:10:01  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
15:10:15  <Stablean> <bon> such as looking out the window and wondering why my bow is gone
15:10:25  <Stablean> <bon> (hint: its not gone...the front of ship just went down a slope!)
15:10:28  <Stablean> <bon> :P
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15:10:36  <Stablean> <bon> I sure made silly jokes ofc
15:10:48  <Stablean> <bon> :)
15:11:04  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
15:11:14  <Stablean> <travstr> i forgot that ships are like trains and they're in segments
15:11:17  <Stablean> <travstr> so it looks funny on a slope lol
15:11:36  <Stablean> <bon> travstr or here's another one: what do you mean? theres only 5 barges? there should be six now the bloody turn this ship around!
15:11:47  <Stablean> <bon> <<was too silly and still can be
15:12:01  <Stablean> <travstr> lols
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15:13:34  <Stablean> <bon> travstr oh and I only did it once but you can make the large ship carry passengers...they look like blob heads riding on top of the deck :)
15:13:49  <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol haha
15:14:15  <Stablean> <bon> if you think thats too silly..tell THAT to v453000 then... he made a *nutty* NUTS grf indeed :)
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15:14:52  <Stablean> <bon> heh hi fehler...some timing you have...I was wondering about going off soon but . hi there anyway :p
15:15:22  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> hello
15:15:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:15:30  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> i am just checking real quick
15:15:33  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> 15 min
15:15:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  and a  tran   q
15:15:54  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> omg hugeass jam
15:16:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> a gen
15:16:54  <Stablean> <bon> tbh I wish the next map would have FIRS again...this whole thing about unstable output aspect is just too stupid... I mean ... 120 tonnes then 870 tonnes? :|
15:17:02  <Stablean> <bon> but meh
15:17:28  <Stablean> <travstr> i haven't played with the firs mod yet
15:17:38  <Stablean> <travstr> but i spectated the previous game and it looked cool
15:17:52  <Stablean> <bon> either way...going take a break...not sure I'll ever finish fixing up things but meh we'll see
15:17:58  <Stablean> <bon> be back later or something :)
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15:18:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> its      a bit hard            to play  whive
15:20:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr   in  the  larst  game  u have  to doo  supplies    to  get mor   coal out
15:20:31  <Stablean> <travstr> oh
15:20:49  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i saw there was extra stuff you could unload to increase output
15:20:51  <Stablean> <travstr> it looked interesting
15:21:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:24:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice  wood  papper  goods  net werk jam
15:27:39  <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> ok gg bb
15:27:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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15:31:41  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy (and all others)
15:31:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:32:10  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, sorry about the company on the last map, but several people worked hard together to bankrupt it :-)
15:32:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thats  ok  i did  not    like  the  map  eeny way
15:32:54  <Stablean> <Anson> it started when you left quickly ... and left some bad signals behind, which immediately caused a jam of the entire net
15:33:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
15:33:39  <Stablean> <Anson> you also had trains with double engines (for TL3), and thus the income was minimal
15:33:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:34:03  <Stablean> <Anson> then i spent 150 mio (or a little more) to convert all rails
15:34:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:34:23  <Stablean> <Anson> that left the company with 0 cash (and 0 loan too)
15:34:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
15:35:10  <Stablean> <Anson> and finally meech came and started autoreplacing engines ... which would have cost another 200-250 mio at least ... thus cash was always at 0
15:35:29  <Stablean> <travstr> how to make a train wait at a station until the load percentage is at a certain number?
15:35:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i dont  blame  u  for   my  company  whent
15:35:47  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm using a conditional but it just sends the train away and comes back again
15:35:53  <Stablean> <travstr> which isn't ideal of course
15:36:08  <Stablean> <Anson> with tzhe minimal income that the company had, only 6 (SIX!!!) trains could be replaced per year ... and the company had 100+++ trains
15:37:06  <Stablean> <Anson> with the new trains, different speeds and other cargo capacity, trains started to queue, and even jammed ... thus i built more obverflows
15:38:12  <Stablean> <Anson> and then came the last problem : i thought that i had fixed a queue and overflow when my doorbell rang ... was afk for 20 minutes and when i returned, the company was gone
15:38:31  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
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15:39:45  <Stablean> <Anson> when i look at an old autosave, i saw that because of bigger capacity and a temporary jam before (which dropped ratings and thus production), trains had mesed up the entrance to a station and jammed the whole net ...
15:40:47  <Stablean> <Anson> with zero cash, we got so much debt per year, that the company was dead after only a year, before i came back
15:42:01  <Stablean> <Anson> oh well ... murphy worked overtime : what can go bad, will go bad, and mostly all at the same time :-)
15:43:47  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr: which trains have the problems with conditionals ?
15:43:53  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wow
15:43:57  <Stablean> <travstr> that's annoying
15:44:11  <Stablean> <travstr> well happy can be.. happy
15:45:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson   have u see  my net werk
15:46:04  <Stablean> <Anson> i only saw that there are many huge (mostly long) networks again
15:46:30  <Stablean> <travstr> it makes joining late a pain
15:47:21  <Stablean> <travstr> btw happy i prospected a new forest
15:47:27  <Stablean> <travstr> and it was right next to your line
15:47:30  <Stablean> <travstr> but i want it so sorry
15:47:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thats ok  ucan have it
15:48:46  <Stablean> <travstr> "maximum tunnel length: 2,048 tiles" O_O
15:55:14  <Stablean> <travstr> god this line is long O_o
15:58:21  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, nice big net ... but i still have to find the "main stations" :-)
15:58:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
15:59:13  <Stablean> <Anson> while following the rails, i saw some double bridges ... most of them are synced, but at least one isn't ....
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15:59:26  <Stablean> <travstr> where
15:59:28  <Stablean> <travstr> who
15:59:48  <Stablean> <Anson> at !not synced
16:00:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
16:01:28  <Stablean> <Anson> another hint for double bridges that i recently saw/learned : when you build them with presignals or with pbs, trains will stop nicely in front of the bridge when both lanes are used .... but just THAT is the disadvantage and problem ...
16:01:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:02:29  <Stablean> <Anson> when that happens, they easily "turn evil" and cause trains on both lanes to always stop each other, and because of stopping, they are so slow that they will never end stopping each other
16:02:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dont no
16:02:49  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
16:02:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
16:02:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
16:03:16  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
16:03:36  <Stablean> <Anson> thus it is (most of the time) better to use simple block signals : if the bridge turned evil, sooner or later the trains will jam ONCE at the start of the bridge, and when they continue the bridge is no longer evil
16:04:06  <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder why toffel's income just shot back up
16:04:08  <Stablean> <travstr> lalalala e
16:04:34  <Stablean> <Anson> and if the bridge turns eveil again and again, then the problem is somewhere else, eg a jam after the bridge, unsynced bridge or whatever
16:05:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport>   i see
16:07:31  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: on the last map, you had a really nice refit station which worked realy nicely .... but only by itself
16:08:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:08:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> that  was  good
16:08:26  <Stablean> <Anson> trains from that station which should transport supplies were almost empty most of the time, thus used up much space on rails without delivering anything useful
16:08:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:09:22  <Stablean> <Anson> and that in turn caused production to go up and down between 1x, 2x and 4x ... which in turn caused some of the jams for trains that suddenly didn't get enough resources
16:09:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  i mite  try that  a gen   soon
16:11:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i once saw such a refitting system for firs, but it had lots more resources and wouldn't behave bad when a slight disturbance occured
16:11:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:11:57  <Stablean> <Anson> i think it might be better to separate the supplies from all other cargo, not including them in the refit process and thus having more control about loading and delivering supplies
16:12:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:14:29  <Stablean> <Anson> another hint :
16:15:03  <Stablean> <Anson> you have a nice overflow depot at Prarnville North ... but it has a little flaw
16:15:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:16:01  <Stablean> <Anson> the station length is exactly the train length, and signals are directly in front of the platforms ... thus trains will brake early and force trains into the reverser without need
16:16:20  <Stablean> <travstr> that was what i noticed
16:16:26  <Stablean> <travstr> but i didn't know how to word it lol
16:16:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:16:38  <Stablean> <Anson> use 1 or 2 tiles brake space, either by making the stations longer or by adding a spare tile in front of them
16:17:00  <Stablean> <Anson> and put signals as early as possible, not in front of the platforms
16:17:02  <Stablean> <travstr> you could move the station forward by 1 tile
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16:18:22  <Stablean> <travstr> omg you can autoreplace monorails to maglev?
16:18:29  <Stablean> <travstr> i did not even know this.
16:18:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:18:47  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr : that is the purpose of universal rails :-9
16:18:57  <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't know you could do it though holy CRAP
16:19:00  <Stablean> <travstr> my life just got x10000000 times easier
16:19:54  <Stablean> <travstr> what's the logic engine for? testing rails and singals and stuff?
16:20:38  <Stablean> <Anson> the old (1+ years ago) universal rails had several/different methods to autoreplace trains ... then came nuts and included universal rails in the set, making everything easier to handle, and finally purr came, to be able to color universal rails (no functional changes)
16:21:22  <Stablean> <travstr> cool :p
16:21:24  <Stablean> <Anson> now, everything but wet can use universal rails easily ... for wet, you will get a penalty of 30% less power, te, speed
16:21:35  <Stablean> <travstr> awesome :o
16:22:09  <Stablean> <travstr> woo two of my trains just broke the 1mil a year mark :D
16:22:15  <Stablean> <travstr> and it's not even a year \m/
16:22:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i heard that a future (or already the current new?) version of purr might give different bonuses depending on color
16:22:45  <Stablean> <travstr> hm interesting
16:22:51  <Stablean> <travstr> though for now it's good to use for marking
16:23:01  <Stablean> <Anson> remember that on this map, inflation is on, thus everything is 5x higher than at the beginning now
16:23:23  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i know lol :p
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16:24:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  djanxy
16:25:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ty
16:25:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> meh
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16:25:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just for a min though, not quite done with the duties of the day ;)
16:25:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> station is dead anyway
16:26:25  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, now trains should use the reverser less often :-)
16:26:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
16:27:02  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe you can remove the tunnel completely ... there should be 3 tiles in front of the factory
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16:31:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam  see my  sign    say john
16:32:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> who's John?
16:32:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wher can i john  this  up
16:32:44  <Stablean> <travstr> do you mean join
16:32:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> not shor  how
16:32:56  <Stablean> <Anson> translation : happy jahn = english join :-)
16:33:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep   its  my spling  is not  good
16:34:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> that?
16:35:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:35:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
16:42:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> Anson when did you have a network on here that wasn't massively jammed?
16:42:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> stop signing stuff that isn't a problem
16:42:58  <Stablean> <Anson> here = on this server ?
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16:43:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> ofc
16:43:40  <Stablean> <Anson> quite often ... before 2100 when resources explode to 1000+ production
16:44:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm sure there isn't 3 tiles before the factory
16:44:04  <Stablean> <travstr> there's only 2
16:44:18  <Stablean> <travstr> 3 tiles means going onto the junction at which point the train can't actually turn
16:44:40  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but tile '1' is the junction
16:44:46  <Stablean> <Anson> when the tunnel entrance is gone, it is the third tile
16:44:48  <Stablean> <travstr> does that not mean the train will not be able to turn
16:44:56  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
16:45:07  <Stablean> <travstr> try it yourself
16:45:10  <Stablean> <Anson> tile 1 is the junction, but after the split point
16:45:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it should be enough
16:45:36  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i thought the trains were going right
16:45:44  <Stablean> <travstr> they're going left then back again?
16:45:58  <Stablean> <travstr> or into the depot
16:46:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose >.>
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16:46:44  <Stablean> <Anson> if the station is full, the 2way signals will be red and thus (with the setting "2way_eol") trains will go to the reverser (into the tunnel)
16:47:03  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i understand how it works
16:47:32  <Stablean> <Anson> and then back from the tunnel, they go to the depot, and wait there until the 2way signals is green ... won't try to leave before it turns gren again
16:47:56  <Stablean> <travstr> i understand the idea lol
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16:49:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> see my example Trav ? right next to it
16:49:48  <Stablean> <travstr> i already understood the concept
16:49:58  <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah, thanks i suppose
16:50:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> thought you meant it wasnt enough room to turn
16:50:44  <Stablean> <travstr> i did but i thought the trains were going right
16:50:54  <Stablean> <travstr> then i realised that a. they weren't and
16:50:57  <Stablean> <travstr> b. 90' turns are off
16:51:51  <Stablean> <Anson> these servers always have 90 degree off and 2way_eol on
16:52:05  <Stablean> <travstr> this is the first time i've playe
16:52:11  <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah now i know :p
16:52:33  <Stablean> <travstr> also autoreplacing monorail to maglev doesn't work as i thought it would, lol
16:52:48  <Stablean> <Anson> those settings are needed to make good stations and nets, logic, etc
16:53:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> need to replace the wagons as well I guess
16:53:12  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah... :/
16:53:19  <Stablean> <Anson> if you autoreplace from one railtype to another, you need to replace engines AND wagons
16:53:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> can autoreplace that too
16:55:01  <Stablean> <Anson> if you replace short engines or wagons for longer ones, you shouldn't forget to set the flag to truncate the trains .... too bad that there is no flag to "auto-double" the last wagon if the train becomes shorter by replacing
16:57:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah Anson, that would be awesome :D
16:58:06  <Stablean> <Anson> what does the logic near Flunwell do ? nothing !?
16:58:42  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i noticed that :p
16:59:52  <Stablean> <Anson> probably intended a flipflop to force every second train to Dunworth, but doesn't work with only one rail connected
17:00:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy can you lend me £10million to buy trains?
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17:00:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> yay :)
17:00:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> pay ya back later
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17:01:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thats  ok  u  dont need to pay  me  back i got  lots   ov muney
17:01:51  <Stablean> <Anson> a default username (even including spaces) can be set on the main screen where multiplayer is joined
17:02:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> only 5 million
17:02:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  thanks
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17:16:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nned  sume   help
17:16:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam
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17:23:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  player
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17:39:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> what help happy?
17:39:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  i need  a slh
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17:40:57  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
17:40:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi v
17:41:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> ih
17:41:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi V
17:42:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> you mean you want to double that for you?
17:42:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> hmm ask Anson
17:42:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
17:42:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes
17:42:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
17:43:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's a fair amount of work
17:43:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> at least to properize it
17:44:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> sort out the hub south of there first
17:44:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok         i doo  it
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17:45:37  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
17:45:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ello
17:46:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:46:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> that sideline doesn't need doubling
17:46:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> just the ML part
17:46:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> to the station
17:47:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> factory
17:47:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see
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17:53:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back later
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17:53:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> k
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18:05:39  <Stablean> <travstr> dat maglev speed
18:05:45  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh sexy.
18:21:43  <Stablean> <travstr> is anyone there
18:21:45  <Stablean> <travstr> i need help
18:21:56  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sup
18:22:14  <Stablean> <travstr> if you ask a train to go non-stop will it service or no
18:22:20  <Stablean> <travstr> cause the reliablity of my trains is really low
18:22:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> breakdowns are turned off, so servicing doesnt matter
18:22:45  <Stablean> <travstr> ._.
18:22:55  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
18:22:58  <Stablean> <travstr> ty.
18:23:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :)
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18:41:48  <Stablean> <travstr> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
18:42:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> problem? :)
18:43:06  <Stablean> <travstr> yes ':)'
18:44:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> paper trains blocking the drop?
18:44:22  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but
18:44:24  <Stablean> <travstr> well yes
18:44:28  <Stablean> <travstr> that is the problem.
18:44:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> separate stations works better
18:44:40  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm trying to find a way for the signals to go
18:45:11  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm trying to use entry and exit signals
18:45:13  <Stablean> <travstr> and it didn't work
18:45:20  <Stablean> <travstr> so i gave up and used path ones, like always
18:45:42  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
18:45:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> :P
18:45:50  <Stablean> <travstr> KILL ME
18:46:08  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i know the problem
18:46:08  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
18:46:15  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah...
18:46:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> the bays !here need to be long enough to hold an entire train
18:46:31  <Stablean> <travstr> i need to put the exit signals after the stations
18:46:37  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah that too but i just adusted that
18:46:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> no
18:47:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> well they aren't long enough
18:47:23  <Stablean> <travstr> *sigh*
18:47:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> but it may work better with pbs that way in any case
18:47:35  <Stablean> <travstr> pbs
18:47:37  <Stablean> <travstr> what is pbs
18:47:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> as you have two ways to enter
18:48:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> or remove one of them and entry/exit before platforms
18:48:41  <Stablean> <travstr> why :(
18:48:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> why what? remove?
18:48:57  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah
18:49:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i thought that was right lol
18:49:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> the bay doesnt do a lot as its too short :)
18:49:24  <Stablean> <travstr> true
18:49:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> blocks the other one
18:49:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> that works
18:50:20  <Stablean> <travstr> my idea was so two trains could enter at once without using the same path
18:50:27  <Stablean> <travstr> but the water made it awkward/impossible
18:50:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> move the exit track over
18:50:51  <Stablean> <travstr> which one
18:51:01  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
18:51:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> other way :)
18:52:23  <Stablean> <travstr> thanks :p
18:52:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> water may still be a problem
18:53:21  <Stablean> <travstr> why does it go red now
18:53:24  <Stablean> <travstr> when there's space left
18:53:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> still short by one tile
18:53:45  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
18:53:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> the inner one
18:54:05  <Stablean> <travstr> ye
18:54:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> well it's 4.5 tiles and your trains are 5
18:55:33  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
18:56:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> but don't forget the area after the entry signals is one block
18:56:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> only one train can enter
18:57:05  <Stablean> <travstr> o
18:57:11  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm just going to use path signals
18:57:13  <Stablean> <travstr> i cba
18:57:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> might be more effective in this case
18:57:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> yep
18:58:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i just wish the water didn't stretch to the left side ._.
18:58:11  <Stablean> <travstr> anyways ty for your help :p :>
18:58:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> np :)
18:58:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> you could always rebuild the station
18:59:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose but the left side doesn't give me much space either
18:59:08  <Stablean> <travstr> though i do need more than 4 platforms
18:59:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> I still think separate stations for pickup and drop trains
18:59:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> but up to you ofc
19:00:21  <Stablean> <travstr> good idea.
19:00:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> what could happen is that all platforms are taken by pick trains
19:00:31  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm just thinking how it could work
19:00:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> so nothing can drop then jam
19:00:36  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah that happens all the time lol.
19:00:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
19:00:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> plenty of space
19:00:59  <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder how i can get two stations though
19:01:09  <Stablean> <travstr> cause a bridge over those two water tiles is expensive
19:01:15  <Stablean> <travstr> getting rid of them is expensive too
19:01:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> you have 12 tiles so 'walk' the station maybe?
19:03:52  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh this water :@@@@@@@
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19:07:37  <Stablean> <travstr> ummm
19:07:40  <Stablean> <travstr> what just happened
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19:08:16  <Stablean> <travstr> wb :p
19:08:19  <Stablean> <travstr> what just happened :o
19:08:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh, no. 1 :D
19:08:48  <Jam35> idk went disco
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19:13:32  <Stablean> <bon> hi
19:13:34  <Stablean> <travstr> thanks jam
19:13:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi bon
19:13:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
19:13:40  <Stablean> <travstr> it works like a dream
19:13:43  <Stablean> <travstr> hello bon
19:13:49  <Stablean> <bon> what worked? :)
19:13:59  <Stablean> <travstr> using two stations instead of one.
19:14:05  <Stablean> <bon> oh :P
19:14:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dividing drop and pickup
19:14:22  <Stablean> <bon> and seriously why the *** can't the original industry act like FIRS and stop arbitarly jumping production rates >_<
19:14:32  <Stablean> <bon> meh...its late in the game .. I'll just ignore it
19:16:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> glad to help :P
19:17:19  <Stablean> <bon> (at least if I go WET next game I can just oversize the stations knowing I'll be able to use long ships to haul this crap off heh)
19:17:25  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:17:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> just a note it is not strictly necessary to have pbs (path) signals before every junction
19:17:47  <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol
19:17:53  <Stablean> <travstr> i just do it anyway. idk why
19:17:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> as a rule of thumb only if you want more than 1 train in the ahead block
19:18:17  <Stablean> <travstr> so i can just use block signals?
19:18:21  <Stablean> <bon> hmmmmm or I could try risk converting to ships now piece by piece
19:18:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> so like !here normal signals are fine
19:18:43  <Stablean> <travstr> o
19:18:45  <Stablean> <travstr> ty
19:19:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> can only ever be one train in the block so path signals are redundant
19:19:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> doesn't break the junction having them just they are not needed
19:19:11  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
19:20:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> you have several others similar but you can find them :)
19:20:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> its really used mostly for terminus stations, as far as i've seen (there are other uses)
19:20:39  <Stablean> <travstr> god everything is so smoothly running lol
19:20:41  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah
19:21:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes I like how you build and you want to experiment which is good
19:22:26  <Stablean> <travstr> woo
19:22:33  <Stablean> <mickdermack> just a question, trav: why do you require your wood trains to go a loop?
19:22:33  <Stablean> <travstr> experimenting is fun
19:22:38  <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean
19:23:09  <Stablean> <travstr> do you mean the big loop after the station?
19:23:19  <Stablean> <travstr> or the fact there is a loop at all
19:23:38  <Stablean> <mickdermack> to the tratbourne paper mill: all wood trains have to go a loop through little brefingbridge before they can enter the station
19:23:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> wood from south has no direct path to the drop it seems
19:23:50  <Stablean> <travstr> they do?
19:23:52  <Stablean> <travstr> :o
19:23:56  <Stablean> <travstr> OH LOL
19:24:18  <Stablean> <travstr> what i messed some stuff up
19:24:25  <Stablean> <travstr> because the paper trains can't go directly any more
19:24:31  <Stablean> <travstr> and the wood trains can't either
19:24:32  <Stablean> <travstr> V.v
19:24:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> easy to forget something ;)
19:25:09  <Stablean> <travstr> no wonder there's so much more paper here x)
19:25:09  <Stablean> <travstr> sighhh
19:25:51  <Stablean> <travstr> should be fixed x)
19:25:53  <Stablean> <travstr> but ty
19:34:52  <Stablean> <mickdermack> trains are weird... i just saw a passenger train go through tratbourne north... and a wood train queuing at the paper pickup...
19:35:07  <Stablean> <travstr> the passenger train was my fault
19:35:09  <Stablean> <travstr> the other one idk
19:35:11  <Stablean> <mickdermack> k
19:47:16  <Stablean> <travstr> is there any point in using medium maglev when you can use fast? i'm just wondering because there seems to be no difference
19:47:19  <Stablean> <travstr> so i might upgrade
19:47:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> they may be fast but don't accelerate too well
19:48:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> medium has more power
19:48:12  <Stablean> <travstr> i did notice that but
19:48:22  <Stablean> <bon> meh sorry had to where was I
19:48:24  <Stablean> <travstr> does it make that much of a difference? is it noticable?
19:48:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
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19:49:05  <Stablean> <travstr> oh. lol.
19:49:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> id say especially when using long ish trains with one engine
19:49:22  <Stablean> <travstr> uh huh
19:49:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> set up a drag race track and test :D
19:49:30  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess i won't use them then.
19:49:36  <Stablean> <travstr> hm good idea lol
19:49:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> although
19:49:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> would be best to test loaded trains
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19:49:57  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
19:50:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> you will notice traffic queuing more unless you can compensate
19:50:11  <Stablean> <travstr> however i won't use them because i have slower trains on my network
19:50:27  <Stablean> <travstr> namely the passenger trains that are only slightly slower than these medium ones
19:50:33  <Stablean> <travstr> so the fast ones will be really bad
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20:06:25  <Stablean> <travstr> Sorry i had to go
20:06:31  <Stablean> <travstr> but i have returned
20:06:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> wb!
20:06:47  <Stablean> <travstr> ty :p
20:06:50  <Stablean> <travstr> :>
20:06:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
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20:10:05  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hey boo
20:10:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
20:10:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
20:10:44  <Stablean> <bon> down..several more to convert...should be a long fun night heh
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20:29:16  <Jam35> right....
20:29:22  <Jam35> bye then i guess :p
20:29:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> bb :D
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20:43:49  <Stablean> <bon> meh I think I'll rather not bother a massive convert at all..can't see how to dispute things lightly
20:43:52  <Stablean> <bon> next game instead it is :)
20:44:02  <Stablean> <bon> at least the isolated copper line is fun for now
20:44:14  <Stablean> <bon> and with that I need to start slow supper so ... going for a bit now :-s
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21:00:37  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
21:00:49  <Stablean> <travstr> welcome back.
21:00:49  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
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21:01:01  <Stablean> <travstr> or no
21:01:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
21:01:09  <Stablean> <travstr> or yes :p
21:01:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i am  back
21:05:39  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
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21:17:44  <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur has started a new company (#12)
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21:18:18  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hiya
21:18:36  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
21:18:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> welcume  to  the  server
21:18:44  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I've been here before Happy :)
21:18:50  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> But thanks :)
21:18:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:18:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
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21:20:47  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Whoah, what's with the cost of slopes :/
21:21:06  <Stablean> <travstr> Yeah....
21:21:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> to  mak  the  game  harder
21:21:23  <Stablean> <travstr> generally the cost off everything is more
21:21:33  <Stablean> <travstr> luckily you get a huge loan to compensate xo
21:21:44  <Stablean> <travstr> and you earn huge amounts of money for short-ish distances
21:28:14  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I can't afford signals, this is different :p
21:28:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> try  now
21:28:48  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Nonono
21:29:20  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> how do i give it you back
21:30:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> go to  client  list
21:30:11  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> i can't give back, as i have a loan
21:30:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thats  ok  i give that  to  help   u to get  start
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21:31:08  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I probabaly shouldn't have gone for universal rails :)
21:31:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nope ;)
21:32:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> your coal   drop  is to for
21:38:24  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> is the max loan automatically inflating?
21:38:26  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> that's kinda cool
21:38:36  <Stablean> <travstr> ye
21:38:46  <Stablean> <travstr> it does that standard game
21:38:52  <Stablean> <travstr> unless i'm wrong
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22:31:46  <Stablean> <travstr> computer went into hibernate ._.
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23:06:29  <Stablean> *** titanic has started a new company (#13)
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23:11:35  <Stablean> <travstr> oopsy
23:11:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> RIP
23:11:44  <Stablean> <travstr> ikr
23:12:38  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh this is gonna screw up my whole system
23:12:40  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
23:12:47  <Stablean> <travstr> MOVE TRAINS
23:12:49  <Stablean> <travstr> JESUS
23:13:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah takes a while to go away
23:13:26  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh cry
23:13:32  <Stablean> <travstr> all dis paper needs to be shifted
23:13:35  <Stablean> <travstr> COME ON
23:13:43  <Stablean> <travstr> I need monies come on
23:15:03  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
23:15:06  <Stablean> <travstr> hey bon :p
23:15:21  <Stablean> <bon> hey...was just thinking...when do they actually decide to reset anyway?
23:15:27  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure what the pattern seem to be
23:15:30  <Stablean> <travstr> i was thinking that
23:15:36  <Stablean> <travstr> i love my network *cries*
23:15:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont think there it a pattern
23:15:52  <Stablean> <bon> a copy to your drive...and you can keep playing it afterward :P
23:16:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i did BUT i could only play as company 1
23:16:08  <Stablean> <travstr> and not my actual company
23:16:19  <Stablean> <Djanxy> use ctrl+alt+c
23:16:22  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...then how the hell do they decide when to reset seeing its not at 2050 or something? :)
23:16:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheat menu
23:16:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> there you can change company
23:16:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> in single player ofc :D
23:16:54  <Stablean> <travstr> um i tried that
23:17:01  <Stablean> <travstr> but i'll try again :p
23:17:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> works for me
23:17:10  <Stablean> <travstr> oh ok
23:17:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cause i had the same problem until i discovered that
23:18:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im on the last stretch of cleaning up my mess and adding a second mainline
23:19:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> after that, it's likely an upgrade to SLUGS
23:25:00  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game
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23:30:26  <Stablean> <travstr> good :p
23:30:32  <Stablean> <travstr> hey tran
23:57:39  <Stablean> <travstr> WHAT THE ACTUAL
23:58:09  <Stablean> <bon> ?
23:59:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all  how  things  going

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