Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 24th October 2013:
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00:11:18  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
00:11:39  <Stablean> <travstr> hey bonbon
00:11:54  <Stablean> <bon> :p
00:12:28  <Stablean> <bon> so...travstr...I did fill almost all lands :)
00:12:43  <Stablean> <bon> small spot and there aside to the empty coastline by my rails :)
00:12:53  <Stablean> <travstr> looks good :>
00:12:55  <Stablean> <bon> heh thanks
00:13:05  <Stablean> <travstr> but now fonhill city is 1st again :D
00:13:28  <Stablean> <bon> maybe but they keep going back n forth
00:13:34  <Stablean> <travstr> mehhh
00:13:40  <Stablean> <travstr> only cause i had a jam earlier lol
00:13:43  <Stablean> <bon> at least "top two places" for sure
00:13:53  <Stablean> <travstr> yeye
00:13:55  <Stablean> <bon> tredhead is a steady 3rd tho
00:14:02  <Stablean> <travstr> mmmm
00:14:48  <Stablean> <travstr> check my income;)
00:14:51  <Stablean> <travstr> and performance graph ;)
00:15:02  <Stablean> <bon> why all the '\/' signs?
00:15:08  <Stablean> <travstr> idk i got bored
00:15:12  <Stablean> <bon> heh
00:15:18  <Stablean> <bon> :p
00:15:24  <Stablean> <travstr> o no you overtook me :<
00:15:30  <Stablean> <travstr> darn minimum income
00:15:37  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:17:55  <Stablean> <bon> I just wonder if I could know what next map is going be like but heh..guess will find out toward weekend :)
00:19:47  <Stablean> <bon> theres one thing noone has been able to hit yet tho....
00:20:02  <Stablean> <bon> my very old cargo line ... its been sitting at the same axis for I dunno how long
00:20:04  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:20:22  <Stablean> <travstr> lol where??
00:21:05  <Stablean> <bon> check the chart..even you are only like 36K while I've always averaged 47K-ish
00:21:28  <Stablean> <travstr> it's funny how it works
00:21:31  <Stablean> <bon> and mmm I wonder if its due to pax or not but heh happy is so far down the chart even with a lot more trains
00:21:34  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess that local line is doing work lol
00:21:45  <Stablean> <travstr> i noticed that
00:21:47  <Stablean> <travstr> strange
00:21:54  <Stablean> <bon> :P
00:22:12  <Stablean> <bon> map might be different style from me...although I may still do pax tho :)
00:22:34  <Stablean> <travstr> mmmk
00:22:40  <Stablean> <travstr> oo i'm back on top :>
00:22:42  <Stablean> <travstr> :'>
00:24:16  <Stablean> <bon> oh and yeah..remind me to not bother with purrail in the early stage too :->
00:24:34  <Stablean> <travstr> haha yeah i waited until i had good income
00:24:41  <Stablean> <travstr> it looks cool tho :D
00:25:03  <Stablean> <bon> well at least the original blue purrail line managed to stay as it was .. and I added a coal route with standard rail to make up the expensive construction loss :)
00:25:34  <Stablean> <bon> next game if its not firs yet I'll probably try start rail pax first and see if I can't get at least six or more towns by the time loan runs out ;)
00:25:37  <Stablean> <bon> but mm we'll see :P
00:25:55  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah pax is kinda consistent
00:26:01  <Stablean> <travstr> apart from when town grows obviously
00:26:19  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:27:13  <Stablean> <bon> would be funny if I found another small island but eh
00:27:24  <Stablean> <travstr> help guwood!
00:27:42  <Stablean> <bon> no thanks sorry :)
00:27:52  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
00:27:55  <Stablean> <bon> and beside looking at the mayor its too easy to tell who did it tho ;)
00:28:09  <Stablean> <travstr> lololo
00:28:15  <Stablean> <travstr> it wasn't me i just did it lol
00:29:30  <Stablean> <bon> :P
00:39:41  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...just curious....can I ask you about donating about half of your money or so? I want try something just silly :)
00:44:35  <Stablean> <bon> guess I'll wait a few years instead heh :)
00:46:33  <Stablean> <travstr> oh sorry i was browsing
00:46:36  <Stablean> <travstr> what happened
00:47:02  <Stablean> <travstr> o lol u want monies?
00:47:05  <Stablean> <travstr> lol ok how much
00:47:39  <Stablean> <bon> whatever you can share :->
00:47:47  <Stablean> <bon> heh
00:47:53  <Stablean> <travstr> but u have so much more than me :(
00:48:00  <Stablean> <bon> well...its a bit hard to explain tbh
00:48:04  <Stablean> <bon> (hint: water)
00:48:06  <Stablean> <bon> :P
00:48:12  <Stablean> <travstr> lol okay fine
00:48:24  <Stablean> <travstr> i can only give about 50-80 million
00:48:27  <Stablean> <travstr> to be on the safe side
00:48:29  <Stablean> <bon> heh anything is ok :)
00:49:00  <Stablean> <bon> ty..several less years now :)
00:49:02  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
00:49:12  <Stablean> <bon> I'll tell you when it finally comes :)
00:49:22  <Stablean> <travstr> lol ok
00:49:52  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh your minimum income's failing again btw ;)
00:50:11  <Stablean> <bon> but umm lol ... vinnie is almost parallel with your line..very weird
00:50:21  <Stablean> <travstr> which one
00:50:25  <Stablean> <bon> performance
00:50:43  <Stablean> <travstr> o lol
00:50:50  <Stablean> <bon> strange eh?
00:58:10  <Stablean> <bon> chck my gold train again...rather silly looking :)
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01:07:45  <Stablean> <travstr> o sorry was away again
01:07:49  <Stablean> <travstr> gold train? what number?
01:09:36  <Stablean> <bon> 1...12....13
01:09:38  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:15:29  <Stablean> <bon> mmm almost there atm
01:15:39  <Stablean> <travstr> the gold train looks cooool
01:15:41  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:22:51  <Stablean> <bon> almost.... :P
01:26:06  <Stablean> <bon> ah curse inflatation .. it'll take a little bit longer :)
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01:27:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woo!
01:29:25  <Stablean> <bon> at least my income is faster than inflatation atm .... I hope heh
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01:30:55  <Stablean> <bon> where you been sylf? heh ... have fun with all the catchups atm :)
01:31:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> just today or...?
01:34:39  <Stablean> <bon> meh going to bed soon.. stupid prices :P
01:35:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's only 8:30 here...  just got home
01:35:53  <Stablean> <bon> 21:36
01:36:16  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm off gnight
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01:36:24  <Stablean> <bon> meh...
01:36:34  <Stablean> <bon> oh well..guess maybe the bridge will have to wait for tomorrow :)
01:39:01  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#9)
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01:40:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooooooooooo! Wat up gansta?
01:40:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> BMF in da houze
01:40:59  <Stablean> <GangstaSora> not much just looking
01:42:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> mother fuck
01:42:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> are you kidding me? xD
01:42:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh well haha
01:42:57  <Stablean> <bon> ?
01:43:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I was going to build trams on the island but all the streets are owned by red xD
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01:43:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh
01:43:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Not Red
01:43:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> You actually xD
01:43:55  <Stablean> <bon> did you forget townroad is disabled in first place anyway?
01:44:10  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:44:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> whatvz
01:45:28  <Stablean> <bon> hmm I do wonder how far into the negative you can get before your company is killed off
01:45:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> loser
01:45:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> a lot
01:45:47  <Stablean> <bon> well lets give that a little test....
01:45:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that sounds like a bad idea
01:45:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> not a lot
01:45:59  <Stablean> <bon> why? :)
01:46:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> dont kill your company
01:46:11  <Stablean> <bon> nope not this one hehehehe
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01:46:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, dont be a loser like me.
01:46:24  <Stablean> *** bon has started a new company (#9)
01:46:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> You just need to be in negative balance with all loan maxed and wait for couple of months
01:47:06  <Stablean> <bon> sylf...or I have a better way...just wait..
01:47:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well if he is talking how far in the negative, you can be millions in debt
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01:47:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it takes the same amout of time for liquidation
01:47:30  <Stablean> <bon> there
01:47:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> You don't need to be far in the red to go bankrupt
01:47:44  <Stablean> <bon> hahah...its running up debt so fast with that one ship
01:48:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> You were asking how far in the red you need to be.
01:48:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> and the answer is not a lot.
01:48:18  <Stablean> <bon> yeah..well lets see what this one....does
01:48:18  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:48:24  <Stablean> <bon> afterward I'm going to bed
01:48:47  <Stablean> <bon> 500 million euro and still counting...rather silly
01:49:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's called a pointless test
01:49:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> if it's a test
01:49:31  <Stablean> <bon> dunno?
01:49:33  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:50:27  <Stablean> <GangstaSora> exit signals work the way they're supposed to do with regular block signals?
01:50:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they can if they're built the way you're looking at them
01:51:35  <Stablean> <bon> wouldn't be surprised if it can't break 2 billion before disappearing
01:51:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> youre looking at dark blue?
01:51:51  <Stablean> <GangstaSora> yellow
01:51:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> a real test might be to run 1000 ships at that running cost, and see if you can reach the integer overflow
01:51:53  <Stablean> <bon> anyway going zzz now...tell travstar the bridge would show up tomorrow
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01:52:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> He didn't see my msg  *sigh*
01:52:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol will interger overflow glitch the game?
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01:53:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think it's cared for, but I don't know for sure
01:53:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> I haven't tested or heard about testing the overflow in the negative direction
01:55:05  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... look at the operating profit graph :-)
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01:55:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that company is worth buying at 2$
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02:35:38  <Stablean> <iCookRice> blue
02:35:41  <Stablean> <iCookRice> has a huge fuck up
02:35:51  <Stablean> <iCookRice> why are all your trains stopped bro
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02:40:52  <Stablean> <Anson> i was changing something
02:41:14  <Stablean> <Anson> better to stop trains instead of sending them to wrong directions
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03:32:33  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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04:23:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> * invades
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04:35:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> fucking expensive ti build :S
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04:53:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo
04:53:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> morning
05:04:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> chronic loan-payer-backer :P
05:04:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the federal government should play this game to get ideas
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05:08:13  <Stablean> <V453000> FUCK WOO
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05:08:33  <Stablean> <V453000> ANYBODY HOME? :)
05:10:37  <Stablean> <V453000> no :(
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05:12:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> WOOOOOOOOOO
05:13:10  <BiG_MEECH> WOOO OOOO!
05:15:35  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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05:16:09  <BiG_MEECH> heya Boss
05:16:31  <Stablean> <V453000> aint no boss today, victim of booze nao :D
05:16:43  <BiG_MEECH> sounds like a good morning
05:16:49  <Stablean> <V453000> I went to meet a friend to go swimming yesterday
05:17:03  <BiG_MEECH> She was hot?
05:17:09  <Stablean> <V453000> when I met him he was already alcoholically enhanced so I decided swimming is not the best idea XD
05:17:16  <Stablean> <V453000> sooo we went to continue in his efforts XD
05:17:19  <BiG_MEECH> oh
05:17:23  <BiG_MEECH> Sweet
05:17:25  <Stablean> <V453000> no this was not she in this case
05:17:36  <BiG_MEECH> Well I do approve of the booze
05:17:42  <Stablean> <V453000> efforts went very efficiently and we reached peak intelligence indeed
05:18:08  <BiG_MEECH> peak intelligence and speaking happens almost immediately when aided with more drink
05:18:15  <V453000> :D
05:18:19  <V453000> yay
05:18:43  <BiG_MEECH> everything is usually solved with more beer
05:19:35  <V453000> was mostly wine topped with some jaegermeister
05:19:44  <V453000> doesnt matter, had brain demolished
05:19:59  <BiG_MEECH> hell yeah
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05:34:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :(
05:34:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I brought beer!
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05:55:18  <Stablean> <Anson> Pilsener went down yesterday
05:55:57  <Stablean> <Anson> don't understand why ? Pilsener is better than Bavarian variety :-)
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06:10:34  <BiG_MEECH>  Is worst
06:10:42  <BiG_MEECH> Budwiser is always king of beers.
06:10:48  <BiG_MEECH> I drank 48 the other day.
06:13:04  <V453000> o_O
06:13:18  <V453000> Meech you drank 48 half liters of beer?
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10:03:38  <Stablean> <bon> mm be back later anyway
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12:02:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  bon
12:02:14  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy
12:02:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
12:02:30  <Stablean> <bon> as usual I'm hating the stupid industries but meh .. its late into game so I'll ignore the overflow anyway :)
12:02:33  <Stablean> <bon> pax is doing ok for most part tho
12:02:39  <Stablean> <bon> you?
12:03:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good   just   got  sume  new  grf
12:03:54  <Stablean> <bon> mm
12:04:10  <Stablean> <bon> at least this is only thursday now...hope for a new map on weekend but ... will just have to watch and see :)
12:04:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> did  u  no  that  ther  is a plan  that  sound  like  a tran
12:05:34  <Stablean> <bon> a what?
12:06:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> a  plan  sound like a tran
12:06:18  <Stablean> <bon> oh ok
12:08:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bon  have  u got  the  new  grf   from  openttdcoop
12:10:06  <planetmaker> V453000, you can't call 'budwiser' beer. It's rather like dish cleaning water ;-)
12:10:30  <Stablean> <bon> heh?
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12:34:38  <bon> hi
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12:58:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey Anson
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13:00:49  <bon> hi djanxy
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14:15:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hello happy
14:15:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> HI
14:15:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
14:16:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
14:16:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
14:16:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> alright, doing a few adjustments
14:16:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
14:16:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> should probably be doing a 2nd line, but not sure if i can be bothered :D
14:23:30  <V453000> planetmaker: :P
14:23:57  <Sylf> meh.  48 ounce of beer is nothing!  that's what...  1.5 litres
14:24:44  <V453000> ._.
14:53:44  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
15:04:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  anson
15:10:14  <Stablean> <Anson> how do you like the 3lane drop ?
15:10:24  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
15:11:28  <Stablean> <Anson> it was some puzzle work to fit the "all to all", but not difficult with the good work that you all did before
15:11:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:12:16  <Stablean> <Anson> the drop itself has 18 platforms now :-)
15:12:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
15:12:50  <Stablean> <Anson> looks like it works pretty well, except for a somewhat slow merge behind the station
15:13:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  i  see
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15:14:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
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15:14:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:15:51  <Stablean> <Anson> right below the sign "bbh", the merge and Xing is not working well yet ... it was only quick&dirty and does its work, but slows down traffic when thre are too many trains
15:16:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:16:23  <Stablean> <Anson> it can easily be made faster if trains get less choices
15:16:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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15:18:46  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
15:18:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:18:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
15:18:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
15:18:56  <Stablean> <Anson> i was just studying new trains when sleep took over :-( .-)
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15:19:18  <Stablean> <Anson> shall we replace trains now ? ... we still use level 2 version and there is level 4 version ...
15:19:25  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boos
15:19:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey trav
15:19:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  go   for  it
15:19:49  <Stablean> <Anson> gravastar -> i choose noise
15:19:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:20:06  <Stablean> <Anson> starting ...
15:20:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
15:20:48  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, look how fast the trains replace this time :-)
15:20:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
15:21:12  <Stablean> <Anson> i added waypoints and double depots, and adjusted all orders to make use of them
15:21:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
15:26:32  <Stablean> <Anson> replacing still jams the station a bit, but by far not as badly as last time
15:26:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:27:14  <Stablean> <Anson> you know why i had to use waypoints ?!
15:27:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:27:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> tell me then :D
15:28:26  <Stablean> <Anson> double depots with a path signal enable one train to enter while another leaves
15:28:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
15:28:59  <Stablean> <Anson> but when there is no waypoint, trains will already decide in the station where they will go and select a specific depot
15:29:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah ye, i see
15:29:27  <Stablean> <Anson> with the waypoints, trains don't decide at the station but only directly in front of the double depot
15:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> one more train to go
15:30:16  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... that is the template train 222 :-)
15:31:38  <Stablean> <Anson> we need bigger CL now
15:31:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> looks like CL 2.5 isnt enough anymore
15:31:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
15:32:46  <Stablean> <Anson> no, 2.5 should be good, but 2 is too short
15:33:00  <Stablean> <travstr> does it matter if you don't replace your trains?
15:33:10  <Stablean> <travstr> cause i'm getting all these messages and they're annoying
15:33:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well, i only count the largest one Anson :D
15:33:30  <Stablean> <Anson> there are two different things : autorenew and autoreplace
15:33:36  <Stablean> <travstr> ye i kno
15:33:46  <Stablean> <Anson> autoreplace is for getting better/newer trains and is useful
15:33:52  <Stablean> <travstr> i like autorenew but do I need to use it if breakdowns are off
15:34:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah
15:34:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just waste of cash
15:34:13  <Stablean> <Anson> autorenew is for updating old trains, and that is irrelevalt on this server since breakdowns are off
15:34:15  <Stablean> <travstr> ok that's all i wanted to here
15:34:21  <Stablean> <travstr> hear* even
15:36:43  <Stablean> <Anson> in the advanced settings, there is one section for autorenew ... that section still is interesting on this server : it determines a minimum amount of money that shall be left when doing either autorenew or also autireplace
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15:37:26  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
15:37:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
15:39:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
15:39:48  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
15:40:08  <Stablean> <travstr> ih
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15:43:40  <Stablean> <Anson> how can the merge/split at sign "bbh" be improved ?
15:44:03  <Stablean> <Anson> without rebuilding too much of the existing tracks :-)
15:44:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem
15:44:54  <Stablean> <Anson> adding more tunnels ?
15:45:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> adding more trains
15:45:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> can  try that
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15:49:03  <Stablean> <Anson> looks much faster now ... still all choices left, but more options to stay on their own side and not cross over so often
15:49:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  that  beter
15:54:09  <Stablean> <paraszt> hi
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15:54:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
15:54:36  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
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16:00:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi skyem
16:00:12  <Stablean> <skyem123> hellop
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16:00:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
16:00:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi
16:00:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you can set a default name in the multiplayer window
16:00:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> before joining the game
16:00:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> easier that way ;)
16:00:55  <Stablean> <skyem123> forgot to type it
16:01:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> np
16:01:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> new install
16:02:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> uhhh
16:02:40  <Stablean> <skyem123> my power station dissapeared
16:06:50  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, are you happy now ? :-)
16:07:01  <Stablean> <Anson> with the new version at "bbh" ?
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16:07:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  looks  grate
16:07:34  <Stablean> <Anson> do you see its flaws ?
16:07:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:09:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hmm, the pathfinder takes signal distance into account ?
16:09:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cant figure this out
16:09:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> should not
16:10:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> check !this
16:10:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> in the waiting bays
16:10:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you see i have 3 signals on the right one
16:10:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> block signals
16:10:28  <Stablean> <Anson> the pathfinder looks ahead for something like 10 signals, with weights according to a complicated formula
16:10:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and it seems to prefer the right one whenever possible
16:11:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> now middle
16:11:08  <Stablean> <Anson> djanxy: where ?
16:11:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sign
16:11:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> whichever waiting bay i put a 3rd signal in, the trains prefer that
16:11:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> makes sense
16:11:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> if i put only 2 in each, they seems to distribute really well
16:12:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> seem*
16:12:08  <Stablean> <Anson> the pathfinder adds up a lot of penalties, eg for crossing, switching lanes, red signals, etc
16:12:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> curves give penalty of 300
16:12:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> {500,405,320,245,180,125,80,45,20,5
16:13:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> penalties for 1st 2nd 3rd ... signal
16:13:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> mmk
16:13:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
16:14:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> anyways, glad i noticed. Good to know for the future
16:14:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> couldnt understand why they all wanted the middle bay :D
16:15:00  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to force trains into those platforms just opposite an exit (as best choice, so that they can leave faster), put an inverse 2way path signal in front of the platforms opposite all entries
16:15:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, already done that on some of my primary terminus stations
16:16:35  <Stablean> <Anson> then trains will enter such platforms first, and can leave them when loaded even when another train is incoming
16:16:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup
16:16:59  <Stablean> <Anson> currently, they prefer to go straight and thus have to cross lanes on exit
16:17:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> time for a break cya
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16:17:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cyas
16:17:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
16:20:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> strange, im sure it has been :D
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16:22:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> why does that make them leave faster ?
16:22:22  <Taede> !players
16:22:25  <Stablean> Taede: Client 244 (Dark Blue) is Djanxy, in company 7 (Djanxy Transport)
16:22:25  <Stablean> Taede: Client 246 (Blue) is happy tran  sport, in company 2 (happy coal  net  werk)
16:22:25  <Stablean> Taede: Client 260 is paraszt, a spectator
16:22:25  <Stablean> Taede: Client 262 (Purple) is skyem123, in company 4 (skyem123 Transport)
16:22:25  <Stablean> Taede: Client 171 (Blue) is Anson, in company 2 (happy coal  net  werk)
16:23:42  <Stablean> <Djanxy> that's what i had
16:23:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and then they prefer middle all the time
16:24:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> for some reason
16:24:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i see
16:25:00  <Stablean> <skyem123> trams are very usefull
16:25:07  <Stablean> <Anson> curves shouldn't give penalties :-)
16:25:26  <Stablean> <skyem123> and running costs are less
16:25:49  <Stablean> <Anson> but the PF probably is not intelligent enough to make a difference between short and long curves, and thus gives penalties for every 45 degree turn
16:26:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it often feels like trains can see where the empty platforms are, even behind signals - there's some hidden trickery i feel :D
16:26:19  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
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16:26:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi v
16:26:57  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, there is probably some penalty for used platforms
16:27:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> anson, about the 6x pbs - how does that make them leave faster ?
16:27:30  <Stablean> <Anson> if the exit area is blocked, they already can turn and advance 1 tile
16:28:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, true
16:28:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> doesnt seem to be a big issue though - i like to keep it simplified :D
16:28:47  <Stablean> <Anson> not much of the difference if it happens, and even doesn't happen most of the time, but it is some mini-mirco management :-)
16:28:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> signals-wise
16:28:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
16:29:37  <Stablean> <Anson> i sometimes do it to get optical feedback that trains already want to leave and have to wait
16:29:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> mmm
16:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> most useful if using double headed trains which look the same from front and back
16:31:41  <Stablean> <Anson> most of the time, i also make platforms 1 tile longer than the TL ... that can serve as brake space which i otherwise alwas forget to add :-) ... and can also be used for more complicated orders like on refitting stations (near end, far end)
16:32:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i prefer to remember adding brake space :D
16:34:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont think i'll be bothered with a second line at this time, so dont think i can add many more trains :D
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16:34:53  <Stablean> <Mark> yoyo
16:35:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi Mark
16:35:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
16:35:31  <Stablean> <Anson> aboutr all those penalties :
16:35:44  <Djanx> cheers
16:36:59  <Stablean> <skyem123> skyem123 transport has had it's first profit in over uhhh... a LOT of years
16:37:09  <Djanx> :D
16:38:20  <Stablean> <Anson> trav had quite some drop in transported cargo3 years ago and stayed low
16:39:15  <Stablean> <Anson> looks like a massive jam, caused by deadlock
16:40:00  <Stablean> <Anson> a lockd up loop around Dedworth Woods
16:40:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye see it
16:41:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> he's still in profit though
16:41:38  <Stablean> <Anson> he has enough money and still earns some, but lots of promaries might die when not serviced
16:42:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> such is learning the hard way
16:42:23  <Stablean> <Mark> heh nice one
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16:43:51  <Stablean> <Mark> wtf inlfation
16:44:43  <Stablean> <Anson> that's always the problem with loops, and with merging before splitting
16:46:31  <Stablean> <V453000> PS I am not sure if chameleons are the best option for TL2 pax :P
16:46:42  <Stablean> <Mark> maelstroms of course
16:46:49  <Stablean> <Mark> slow loading though
16:46:52  <Stablean> <V453000> asdf
16:48:34  <Stablean> <Mark> what should i use then
16:48:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> oops
16:49:03  <Stablean> <V453000> maelstroms are the worst option, that I am fairly sure of :D
16:49:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> what should i do if all my trams bunch up together?
16:49:21  <Stablean> <V453000> TL2 pax, hm I would probably try rail
16:49:35  <Stablean> <Mark> naw
16:49:37  <Stablean> <Mark> too slow
16:49:44  <Stablean> <V453000> 300kmh isnt slow :)
16:49:58  <Stablean> <Mark> its not 600 though
16:50:06  <Stablean> <Anson> vinnie has a huge signal gap ....
16:50:12  <Stablean> <V453000> idk for how long will they reach the 600
16:50:20  <Stablean> <V453000> k relatively quickly
16:50:26  <Stablean> <Mark> for at least half the trip :D
16:50:49  <Stablean> <V453000> well as long as the capacity isnt a problem ... :)
16:51:49  <Stablean> <V453000> the engine probably should have less power and let it be mainly powered by the powered wagons :)
16:53:56  <Stablean> <Mark> zomg
16:54:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> need cash moneys ?
16:54:08  <Stablean> <Mark> no money
16:54:14  <Stablean> <Mark> no thanks
16:54:20  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, the more distant parts of our net now also get more traffic ... single bridge at !bridge
16:54:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:55:09  <Mark> @op
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16:55:14  <Mark> !companies
16:55:17  <Stablean> Mark: Company 1 (Brown): Acorn-y
16:55:17  <Stablean> Mark: Company 2 (Blue): happy coal  net  werk
16:55:17  <Stablean> Mark: Company 3 (Red): travstr's trains three
16:55:17  <Stablean> Mark: Company 4 (Purple): skyem123 Transport
16:55:17  <Stablean> Mark: Company 5 (Green): Sylf Transport
16:55:19  <Stablean> Mark: Company 6 (Orange): Vinnie Transport
16:55:19  <Stablean> Mark: Company 7 (Dark Blue): Djanxy Transport
16:55:21  <Stablean> Mark: Company 8 (Pink): Dr-Dinosaur Transport
16:55:21  <Stablean> Mark: Company 9 (Grey): Mark Transport
16:55:23  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 9
16:55:23  <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted.
16:55:28  <V453000> nub :o
16:55:43  <Stablean> <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN
16:55:47  <Stablean> <Mark> what
16:55:52  <BiG_MEECH> yooooooo
16:55:59  <Stablean> <Mark> couldnt be bothered waiting half an hour to buy a train
16:56:14  <Stablean> <Mark> yo meech
16:56:24  <Stablean> <V453000> ho
16:56:29  <BiG_MEECH> gotta love inflation
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16:57:12  <Mark> yeah who the heck uses inflation :/
16:57:23  <Mark> absolutely no point
16:57:26  <BiG_MEECH> nub who built the map apparently
16:58:00  <Stablean> <V453000> starting with expensive TL2 wont be profittable quickly with or without it regardless
16:58:10  <Stablean> <Mark> i know
16:58:13  <BiG_MEECH> so TL10?
16:58:27  <Stablean> <Mark> but having 10 trains instead of 4 would help
16:58:37  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :)
17:01:39  <Stablean> <skyem123> ...
17:01:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> one of my trams is stuck...
17:02:01  <BiG_MEECH> Hi V45300000000
17:02:21  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, happy, we could (in theory) use a skylift for a full month now, or even a ship for an entire year :-)
17:03:07  <Stablean> <Mark> just do it
17:03:13  <BiG_MEECH> nike
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17:37:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thanks
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17:39:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> ...
17:39:59  <Stablean> <skyem123> a powerstation rebuilt
17:40:09  <Stablean> <skyem123> AFTER i got rid of the track
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17:51:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  jam
17:51:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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17:51:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
17:51:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> good thanks how's u?
17:51:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
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18:02:31  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, skyem1234567890 ... maybe you should really set the default name :-)
18:20:55  <Stablean> <skyem123> hmm
18:21:13  <Stablean> <skyem123> why do my copper ore mines not give me copper ore?
18:21:39  <Stablean> <Anson> where ?
18:21:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u need  a tran
18:22:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> if it's the tram at retbourne, that's for mail
18:22:22  <Stablean> <skyem123> oh
18:22:41  <Stablean> <skyem123> i keep on forgetting that i need to refit trams and trains
18:22:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
18:23:15  <Stablean> <Anson> you always need to use a proper vehicle for the desired cargo ... in some GRFs, some trams can also be refitted for ore, but that is not automatic
18:24:37  <Stablean> <Anson> it's always easy to forget refitting when you set a filter in the buy menu, buy a vehicle, and then give orders would be really nice if vehicles would automatically be bought as exactly that cargo that was set in the filter
18:24:59  <Stablean> <skyem123> it would be VERY usefull
18:39:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> need  help   skyem123
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18:39:40  <Stablean> <Anson> nice changes, jam
18:40:30  <Stablean> <Anson> now it is no longer all to all, but works better .... 1+1+1+2 ->3 instead of (1+1)+1+2 -> 3
18:41:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> better ish might need 4th out but cba
18:41:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> get the North SL properly 'balanced' to 3 lines first
18:42:11  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm still checking all stations, adding brake space to make them faster, and just had rebuilt Fudhattan Mines to roro
18:42:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> there are choices now but could be better
18:43:03  <Stablean> <Anson> everything always could be better :-) LOL
18:43:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> true, just that needs addressing before deciding to add 4th
18:43:52  <Stablean> <Anson> but a good idea to convert the ugly (1+1)+1 from north to a three lane track ... the 2 lanes from south still have a choice "to all"
18:43:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> imo
18:44:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> well was simpler that way
18:44:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> may work better vice versa
18:44:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> with the south line (looks busier) having priority
18:46:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i had given priorities so that 1 lane would have prio for "south left", another for "south right", and the third for north
18:46:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes that is okay if all lanes are split
18:46:50  <Stablean> <Anson> but with your new solution, "3 separate lines from north all get prio, and the two from south have full choice" sound reasonable
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18:47:01  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Hey!!
18:47:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
18:47:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
18:47:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> well I just build then see how it works
18:47:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> seems less congested
18:47:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe?
18:48:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> back in a bit
18:48:43  <Stablean> <Anson> from south starts jamming ... but there was a signal gap in bbh :-(
18:49:09  <Stablean> <Anson> right below the sign "all to all", it was one long bay
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19:06:54  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
19:07:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
19:08:11  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> happy tran  sport:  train 205
19:08:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  thanks
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19:09:21  <Stablean> <sturmi> o/
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19:11:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  sturmi
19:11:53  <Stablean> <sturmi> yo happy
19:12:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
19:12:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> hay
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19:26:02  <Stablean> <sturmi> nice little hub at Kindington
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19:32:04  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
19:32:16  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, as i already said yesterday : nice to look at, but i wouldn't want to live in that town :-)
19:33:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> back to single station for drop/pick? :P
19:34:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> then that happens :)
19:34:06  <Stablean> <travstr> :_
19:34:12  <Stablean> <travstr> :)
19:34:24  <Stablean> <Anson> the old main line used to pass that town ... the new doubled ML now made a SL out of the old main line
19:35:26  <Stablean> <Anson> who added the overflow to Frondwood Mines ? really nice ... i love strange layouts :-)
19:35:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> that would be me
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19:36:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> old one was broken somehow
19:36:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe lost trains got in there
19:37:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i just rebuilt it ... made the station TL+1 long, like all the other stations
19:37:10  <Stablean> <Anson> brake space improves speed a lot
19:40:48  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, done ... unless someone recently added new stations, they all should be 4 long now, and train orders for far end
19:41:28  <Stablean> <sturmi> is there any difference to a longer station entry?
19:43:06  <Stablean> <Anson> trains slow down slowly ... watch their speed ...
19:43:57  <Stablean> <Anson> thus trains will block the area at the station entrance for quite a while when you don't add some straight tile in front of the station : brake space
19:44:35  <Stablean> <sturmi> thats clear, but is there any difference to normal piece of track?
19:44:57  <Stablean> <Anson> most of the time, just a single tile (or making the station one longer than TL) is good enough
19:45:27  <Stablean> <Anson> no, normal track ... trains slow down at stations by themselves
19:45:41  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
19:46:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> problem?
19:46:03  <Stablean> <sturmi> RIP
19:46:13  <Stablean> <sturmi> (rest in pieces)
19:46:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> ah :)
19:46:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> get scraping those rails
19:46:55  <Stablean> <Anson> there were ideas to make all braking slow, having to start braking in advance, but that would be too difficult (impossible) to implement
19:48:14  <Stablean> <Anson> speaking of brake space : right under the station sign for Warnbury Heights, the two center platforms have none
19:49:39  <Stablean> <sturmi> the whole station is crap if you ask me^^
19:50:05  <Stablean> <travstr> didn't ask you :///
19:50:07  <Stablean> <Anson> splitting an entrance first in two, and then again in two makes it faster than what you currently have there (1+3, and later 1+1+1
19:50:34  <Stablean> <travstr> the station isn't as high traffic so i couldn't care less lol
19:51:48  <Stablean> <Anson> took a while to get me convinced that there is a huge speed difference, but now i try to watch building it "faster" ...
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19:55:09  <Stablean> <Anson> a low CL always slows down train A LOT ... and if there is more traffic, it starts to build queues at those curves
19:55:43  <Stablean> <Anson> doesn't look too bad when there is one such CL, but it adds up a lot and later is quite some work to fix
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19:55:58  <Stablean> <bon> hi travstr?? :P
19:56:08  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
19:56:42  <Stablean> <bon> well thats it travstr...I managed to finish the silly thing I wanted to do...
19:56:57  <Stablean> <bon> and get your goddamn truck halt out you silly "king" :P
19:56:59  <Stablean> <travstr> wat was it
19:57:02  <Stablean> <travstr> lol fine
19:57:14  <Stablean> <bon> hehehehe
19:57:26  <Stablean> <bon> oh how nice..a new house right away
19:57:48  <Stablean> <bon> anyway travstr....
19:58:04  <Stablean> <bon> the island is connected to the rest of the 'country' .. depending on if you are ok with only footpath access :)
19:58:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh
19:58:34  <Stablean> <travstr> lolll
19:58:45  <Stablean> <bon> too bad that forest was in the way in first place...oh well eh?
19:59:02  <Stablean> <travstr> hah
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19:59:30  <Stablean> <bon> you funny
20:00:32  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I'm just watching at this point
20:01:06  <Stablean> <bon> if its still fat original industries next map at least I know to stick to rails for pax and see if I can't think of an anti-freight company I aways say we'll see
20:01:28  <Stablean> <bon> how you doing travstr?
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20:08:06  <Stablean> <travstr> y
20:08:17  <Stablean> <bon> thats three given back
20:08:19  <Stablean> <bon> or was it more?
20:08:21  <Stablean> <travstr> o
20:08:24  <Stablean> <bon> :P
20:08:26  <Stablean> <travstr> no that was it
20:08:28  <Stablean> <travstr> cheers
20:08:39  <Stablean> <bon> heh...well you know what? I'm not even doing anything so lets see.....
20:09:26  <Stablean> <bon> there :)
20:09:36  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
20:09:42  <Stablean> <bon> oh other companies ;)
20:10:13  <Stablean> <bon> and hmm lets try industries too....should be silly...
20:10:19  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
20:10:45  <Stablean> <bon> there...done
20:10:52  <Stablean> <bon> as in that I'm done fundwise
20:10:54  <Stablean> <bon> :P
20:11:04  <Stablean> <travstr> loll
20:11:07  <Stablean> <travstr> max loan! LOL
20:11:15  <Stablean> <travstr> well not quite
20:11:17  <Stablean> <bon> had to to fund the last industry :)
20:11:44  <Stablean> <travstr> lol where
20:11:50  <Stablean> <bon> check the news
20:11:52  <Stablean> <bon> :P
20:12:11  <Stablean> <bon> many of the 'New ____' was by me
20:12:21  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
20:12:23  <Stablean> <bon> except for that gold mine from 13-09-2121
20:12:33  <Stablean> <travstr> how do i turn off these train age messages AHHHHHHHHh
20:12:36  <Stablean> <travstr> so annoying
20:12:54  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...age?
20:13:04  <Stablean> <travstr> train xx is getting old and needs replacing
20:13:06  <Stablean> <travstr> soooo annoying
20:14:12  <Stablean> <bon> no idea..used to be under the News icon
20:14:30  <Stablean> <travstr> ughhhhhhh
20:14:46  <Stablean> <bon> yeah it seem like they did a lot of weird omissions in things when they uppered to this version of ottd
20:15:52  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I'm going for now...see you later or on new map ok travstr?
20:16:00  <Stablean> <travstr> ye ok
20:16:10  <Stablean> <travstr> bb^^
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20:23:57  <Stablean> <travstr> ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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20:44:42  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
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20:57:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sup V
20:57:47  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
20:58:05  <Stablean> <V453000> partial winner this time :P
20:58:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> chami's count too ?
20:58:26  <Stablean> <V453000> +-
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21:01:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  v
21:01:33  <Stablean> <V453000> ji
21:01:36  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
21:02:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> so, gotta ask sooner or later
21:02:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what's with the 453000 ?
21:04:02  <Stablean> <V453000> rewriting of my real name
21:04:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha
21:04:32  <Stablean> <V453000> and first letter of my name is V so yeah
21:04:34  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
21:04:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
21:06:52  <Stablean> <Anson> who did the nice rebuild of bbh ?
21:06:54  <Stablean> <V453000> I can promise new NUTS by 2014 max :P
21:07:04  <Stablean> <Anson> when he comes online again, there is more work for him :-)
21:07:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ;)
21:07:08  <Stablean> <V453000> when unsure though :|
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21:28:44  <Djanx> im off, nn
21:28:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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21:33:00  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, are you building on 4th ?
21:33:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  i will  try
21:33:34  <Stablean> <Anson> biggest problem with it : where do we put additional platforms ?
21:33:45  <Stablean> <Anson> or how do we rearrange platforms ?
21:34:23  <Stablean> <Anson> station spread is 12, and we already have 18 platforms on an area of 12 x 12 ....
21:34:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:34:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> so  we  can  not  make  the drop of  biger
21:35:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i have ideas how to build more plaforms, but that would require a complete rebuild (bomb and start again) ...
21:35:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem
21:35:59  <Stablean> <Anson> would probably be best to try that offline first, before disconnecting the drop from the net
21:36:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  try  that ofline  ferst  and see
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21:40:00  <Stablean> <Anson> I'll do one attempt here, at sign "12x12 test area"
21:40:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:47:45  <Stablean> <Anson> the blue rails are for the station ... should add up to exactly 24 platforms on a 12x12 area ...
21:47:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:48:28  <Stablean> <Anson> two more problems now : they are organized in 6 groups of 4, but we would need 4 (or 8) groups for 4 lanes
21:48:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:49:01  <Stablean> <Anson> and it requires additional space around, while we have the sides of a mountain and water ...
21:49:43  <Stablean> <Anson> but at least it shows that it is "easy" to build 24 platforms with station spread 12
21:51:05  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : we have 16 stations with piles of 850-1500 coal waiting :-)
21:52:28  <Stablean> <Anson> that would require to add to other lines as well ... eg triple or quad ML, and 6 to the drop ...
21:52:46  <Stablean> <Anson> lol : at least, we would have 6x4 platforms :-)
21:54:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i think, I'll do a save now to try later offline, and go afk ... was online too often and long and have a few things to do tomorrow, starting early
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21:55:49  <Stablean> <Anson> OH ... JAM at Slunningstone Mines !!!!!
21:55:55  <Stablean> <Anson> one train is stuck there
21:56:33  <Stablean> <Anson> can you please reverse train 247 ?
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21:58:56  <Stablean> <Anson> train reversed, jam cleaned up ... but don't know why it happened ... please check that station from time to time ...
22:00:10  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign "? can trains get stuck here ?"
22:02:12  <Stablean> <Anson> there was a train going back and forth on the right platform, left platform was empty, and another train had left the depot and was stuck in front of the signal at the right platform ... no idea how that could happen
22:03:22  <Stablean> <Anson> but i see another problem : the depot is visible
22:03:52  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe it was a lost train that went to this station, and then got stuck because it was lost ....
22:03:58  <Stablean> <Anson> just like now
22:07:00  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that is also a way to get rid of too many trains ... instead of sending them to a depot
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22:09:13  <Stablean> <Anson> problem fixed (i hope) ... depot on right side now has no access from the net (invisible now), but an exit to the net (to get rid of lost trains)
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22:24:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  ansaon   how ar u dooing
22:25:44  <Stablean> <Anson> i fixed that bad station and adjusted the start/end of 4th
22:25:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
22:26:12  <Stablean> <Anson> but will not do anything else tonight (better should not to be awake tomorrow morning :-)
22:26:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i have  dun  a new coal  drop  of
22:26:42  <Stablean> <Anson> where ?
22:26:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> whont doo u thinke
22:27:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> see  my  sign  say      happy   new  coal  drop of
22:28:37  <Stablean> <Anson> a drop for 4 lanes ?
22:28:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:29:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> it  can  be
22:29:07  <Stablean> <Anson> looks not too bad, but won't work
22:29:38  <Stablean> <Anson> because you have cheated :-)
22:29:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> me and troy       did  sume thin  like  that  and it werk
22:30:00  <Stablean> <Anson> put the sign "happy new coal drop" on top of a station sign :-)
22:30:32  <Stablean> <Anson> without it, you would see that they are two stations ... together have station spread 14
22:31:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i have mov the   sign
22:31:38  <Stablean> <Anson> and the number of platforms is only 16 ... two less than what we have now
22:32:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  but  i am not  dun yet
22:33:23  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, I'll see later ... but just now, it is 14 platforms on two stations and an area of 10x14 ... while the old has 16 platforms and only one station on an area 12x12 (or less)
22:33:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
22:33:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:34:46  <Stablean> <Anson> of course, we can do 3 drop stations ... but do we want that (separate the network in 3 parts) ?
22:35:12  <Stablean> <Anson> challenge would be to have a single drop station to take as much as possible !?!
22:36:59  <Stablean> <Anson> we could use that new drop for all stations on thenorthern part, and the old station for the double ML from south ...
22:37:25  <Stablean> <Anson> it's your decision, but i don't like the idea of having two small networks instead of the one big with a single drop
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22:38:46  <Stablean> <Anson> AFK again ... CU
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23:52:11  <bon> hi

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