Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 31st October 2013:
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00:22:23  <Stablean> <bon> meh long day but -_-
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00:28:09  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.. 600+ bags of diamond...thats too much gold for a single bank to deal with or what? :P
00:40:19  <Stablean> <bon> heh 50000+ people...looks like it really could use something better than foot traffic
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01:01:24  <happy_> hi  sylf
01:02:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
01:02:28  <happy_> how  things
01:02:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> ok
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01:04:05  <skyem123> Hello!
01:04:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
01:04:12  <happy_> hi
01:05:07  <skyem123> iPhones and web irc is a tribal
01:05:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> Get limechat or something already...
01:05:35  <skyem123> *terrible combination
01:08:12  <happy_> i  be  back  on  the  irc   i just  got   swich  to my   phone  web
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01:10:21  <happy_> hi all a gen
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01:16:50  <happy_> sylf i dont think ther much room.lef on the map
01:18:45  <happy_> but fill free  to john my company if u can not  get  start a net werk
01:19:25  <skyem123> My iPhone is acting up
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01:25:49  <skyem123> Ugh
01:26:17  <skyem123> *uhh
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01:26:55  <happy__> skyem123  the nuts tran set on your  map looks beter  now
01:27:33  <skyem123> Does it have all the trains?
01:27:45  <happy__> yes
01:28:35  <skyem123> Good.
01:29:19  <happy__> but its up to v  if he likes it
01:30:16  <skyem123> he said it was an ok start and I fixed most of the problems
01:31:01  <happy__> yep
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01:34:38  <skyem123> Bah.
01:34:53  <skyem123> Bad wifi
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01:40:45  <skyem123> And with that, I give into the bad wifi. I hope my map gets used. Goodbye!
01:41:15  <happy__> bb
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01:42:04  <happy__> hi kero
01:42:51  <Stablean> <kero> hi
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01:47:37  <Stablean> <kero> mmh that was not intended :)
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03:41:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> JoeShmoe
03:41:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Good luck
03:41:39  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi
03:41:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello:)
03:42:00  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> first timer on the servers
03:42:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah
03:42:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> that explains it :)
03:42:54  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> so what am i doing wrong, should i have started with some airports for money?
03:43:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> nah
03:43:14  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> or joined another company
03:43:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was letting you know that there won't be much space to use for you
03:43:31  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah I see that
03:43:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because there is already so much developed
03:44:27  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I figured i'd get in here and play a bit just to see what a server game is like
03:44:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I started the same way :P
03:46:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry if I don't respond, I'm in a skype call
03:46:27  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob
03:50:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey, can I join your company and help out?
03:50:28  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Yup
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03:51:28  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new with these newgrf's too
03:51:34  <Stablean> <Shnupz> same
03:51:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> most I haven't seen
03:51:58  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> weird rails and trains
03:52:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Holy shit track is expensive
03:52:12  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah that was my problem
03:52:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think it's best if we use plain ol electric rails for now
03:52:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok
03:52:55  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> is it cheaper
03:53:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
03:53:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> by a LOT
03:53:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit, I gtg
03:53:44  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Wow if only I knew that at the beginning
03:53:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya man, and good luck :)
03:53:47  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob
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04:44:16  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi
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07:36:27  <V453000> patience is virtue
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10:25:21  <Stablean> <bon> 909 bags of diamonds? 0_o
10:25:27  <Stablean> <bon> just how high do these things go to
10:32:56  <Stablean> <bon> think djanxy may like this tho...I think I've managed to put almost as much ships as I can bother fitting
10:33:03  <Stablean> <bon> maybe space for just one or two more but mmm heh
10:36:14  <Stablean> <bon> heh I see another company has lot of turtles too :)
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10:44:17  <Stablean> <bon> well seem things are stabilized once again
10:44:27  <Stablean> <bon> few new trains tho so I'm up to 86 heh
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10:49:13  <Stablean> <bon> ok off for a while again as usual
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11:21:42  <skyem123> have you seen my map, V453000?
11:21:55  <V453000> hi, good timing I just came from lunch :)
11:21:57  <V453000> I did
11:22:21  <V453000> firstly, firs should always be set with maximal coastal distance of ~3-4
11:22:30  <V453000> so that industries dont spawn too far in the water
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11:22:55  <V453000> invisible leading engine is 100% contraproductive with nuts
11:23:03  <skyem123> ok
11:23:34  <V453000> oh and a hint, when you already add opengfx+ landscape, it is a good idea to add American Road Replacement Set - it has a Total Bridge Renewal Set for it, too
11:23:39  <V453000> nicer (and unified) roads
11:23:47  <skyem123> hmmm...
11:23:52  <skyem123> i like uk roads
11:24:10  <V453000> those work better without opengfx+ landscape in that case
11:24:59  <V453000> and you dont have any roads in there
11:25:07  <skyem123> do i need to remake the map?
11:26:08  <V453000> well it will be more useful, mainly because making a floodable island is just pointless asking for griefing
11:26:22  <V453000> "easter eggs" are cute but not worth the effort
11:26:37  <skyem123> did you see the 'skyem123'?
11:26:47  <V453000> btw is the smoothness on smooth or very smooth?
11:27:04  <skyem123> very smooth
11:27:24  <V453000> myeah thats what I though
11:27:25  <V453000> t
11:27:29  <V453000> smooth is better really
11:27:38  <V453000> this just makes too long hills that arent quite useful
11:28:01  <V453000> oh, also why do you use opengfx trees when there are opengfx+ trees
11:28:22  <skyem123> i think it was a typo!
11:28:27  <V453000> :)
11:28:54  <V453000> I think that was more or less everything, but just ignore rivers :P
11:29:22  <skyem123> ok...
11:29:38  <skyem123> now to make my breakfast
11:29:54  <V453000> the invisible leading engine is the main part, that is absolute no go with nuts
11:30:00  <V453000> then firs marine coastal distance
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11:30:22  <V453000> after that, just a note - bridge lengths are generally to make it impossible to cross islands
11:30:30  <V453000> if your islands are far apart the setting can be higher
11:30:44  <V453000> and then the visual road/bridge/tree things I said
11:31:16  <V453000> Oh and very important - multiple industries per town: off
11:31:21  <V453000> always generate map with taht
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11:32:14  <V453000> vehicle amounts are changeable in the game, but Road vehicles should not be allowed above 10-20 or definitely not from the start. Aircraft preferably 0 and ships up to 5
11:32:17  <V453000> trains can be 5000
11:32:26  <V453000> 500 can be limiting
11:32:57  <V453000> btw note that bridge length setting is the length of the bridge without bridgeheads
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11:36:39  <skyem123> hmm...
11:37:08  <V453000> + smooth or rough :) but I said that already
11:37:15  <Mark> morning
11:37:22  <V453000> rough is best but hard as hell to get nice islands with
11:37:23  <V453000> hi Mark
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11:41:27  <skyem123> ugh.
11:41:34  <V453000> drawing trains at work ^^ im such a criminal
11:41:42  <V453000> some problem skyem123 ? :)
11:41:43  <V453000> just ask
11:41:57  <skyem123> how do i transfer advanced settings from differant maps?
11:42:18  <V453000> you can probably somehow reload and save configs but I never tried that
11:42:51  <skyem123> how are openttd save files compressed?
11:43:02  <V453000> dont ask me
11:43:11  <V453000> Mark knows I heard
11:43:33  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
11:43:35  <Stablean> <Mark> not a clue
11:43:51  <V453000> damn, I wanted to make you feel useful and you miss out on the chance
11:44:09  <V453000> :>
11:44:49  <skyem123> well, i can open it with 7-zip but it olny has an uncompressed save
11:45:03  <V453000> ._.
11:45:20  <V453000> I Think if you open console and type something like saveconfig, it should save it
11:45:22  <skyem123> xz
11:45:27  <V453000> but I totally dont know how that works, never tried
11:45:30  <skyem123> xz compression
11:45:43  <skyem123> (yay 7-zip)
11:47:52  <skyem123> doesn't work
11:47:53  <skyem123> bah
11:48:21  <V453000> just always edit advanced settings when not in a save :)
11:48:24  <V453000> all maps will generate with those
11:48:24  <skyem123> openttd portable FTW!
11:50:38  <V453000> you mean openttd in a folder which includes cfg? :P
11:50:49  <skyem123> yes
11:50:53  <skyem123> isolated
11:51:00  <skyem123> from my main one
11:51:48  <skyem123> ugh
11:51:57  <skyem123> i will need to do everything again...
11:54:43  <V453000> well you can always overwrite with a config :P
11:54:53  <V453000> if you have the config with which you generated the map
11:55:13  <skyem123> i changed some stuff after... but still
11:55:19  <skyem123> that would help
11:55:22  <V453000> but I think it would be faster to just go through the settings again
11:55:37  <Stablean> <Mark> its just a few clicks really :P
11:55:54  <V453000> lazy people will stay silent :)
11:56:30  <Stablean> <Mark> my goods drop doesnt accept goods
11:56:33  <Stablean> <Mark> im such a noob
11:58:15  <V453000> I know right
11:58:19  <V453000> I would stop accepting your goods just as well
11:58:26  <V453000> anyway off for a trip
11:58:26  <V453000> bai
11:58:37  <Stablean> <Mark> enjoy your trip
11:58:39  <Stablean> <Mark> you hippie
11:58:41  <Stablean> <Mark> bye
11:59:38  <V453000> and I will get paid for it
11:59:39  <V453000> haha
11:59:47  <Stablean> <Mark> :)
11:59:55  <V453000> not like its much but .. :D
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12:05:15  <skyem123> newgrf settings == done!
12:08:07  <skyem123> i'm going to confuse all of you by making my road veicles drve on the left! muhahahaaha >:-)
12:08:35  <Mark> i dont think anyone would notice :P
12:08:50  <Mark> as long as trains drive on the right
12:08:57  <skyem123> erm...
12:09:05  <skyem123> muhahahahaha!
12:09:22  <V453000> no, dont make road vehicles go on the left
12:09:27  <skyem123> argh!
12:09:28  <V453000> I will let you remake the map in such a case :)
12:09:35  <skyem123> why?
12:09:35  <Mark> i thought you were tripping
12:09:42  <V453000> why yes
12:09:52  <V453000> its just annoying, no reason to have it left od swap it
12:10:03  <skyem123> meh
12:10:10  <V453000> im combatting the printing machine to spew out the battle plan Mark
12:11:24  <skyem123> what IS wrong with road veicles on the left?
12:11:59  <V453000> right is standard, period?
12:12:03  <V453000> it is simply confusing
12:12:10  <V453000> everybody adapts to right hand drive setting, done
12:12:27  <skyem123> (Unless you live in the UK)
12:12:32  <V453000> nobody cares
12:12:39  <V453000> majority of players uses right hand drive
12:12:50  <skyem123> aww
12:12:53  <skyem123> ah well
12:13:56  <V453000> the logic is simple, it is more convenient to let minority adapt Once, and then use right hand drive setting forever
12:14:16  <V453000> instead of either forcing majority to adapt forever, or even worse -swap the setting randomly with various games to force everyone adapt every time
12:14:18  <skyem123> ah well
12:14:37  <V453000> not ah well that is how its best for everyone :D
12:14:50  <skyem123> ah well
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12:15:16  <skyem123> uhhh
12:15:37  <skyem123> what just happened?
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12:15:58  <V453000> trippin
12:16:28  * skyem123 is wondering if he should say "ah well" again
12:16:54  <skyem123> ah well
12:16:57  <skyem123> :-p
12:18:37  <skyem123> your guide is out of date V453000!
12:26:35  <skyem123> should i allow funding buildings?
12:27:18  <skyem123> hello?
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12:27:24  <skyem123> anyone there?
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12:32:43  <skyem123> hello!
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12:33:05  <happy_> hi all
12:33:13  <Benny> hello
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12:57:48  <planetmaker> skyem123, funding buiildings? Nah, not needed. But not hurtful either
12:58:27  <skyem123> uhhh
12:58:38  <skyem123> the irc went odd
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13:15:13  <skyem123> phew!
13:15:20  <skyem123> i have done the new map
13:17:33  <skyem123> skyem123's first map 2.0: (TRS, UKRS2, MONOLEV) and (NUTS)
13:18:06  <skyem123> V453000, i have made my new map!
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13:20:56  <skyem123> hello!
13:21:06  <happy_> hi
13:21:23  <skyem123> have you seen my new map?
13:21:40  <happy_> v     whonts  your  new  map  like
13:22:10  <skyem123> new settings
13:22:25  <skyem123> no rivers etc...
13:25:20  <planetmaker> skyem123, yes, such guides occasionally need an update
13:25:43  <planetmaker> skyem123, as such I do believe that a map-making guide is IMHO better placed on our wiki. As it's much easier to maintain there
13:25:48  <planetmaker> Maybe you want to make a start? :-)
13:26:09  <skyem123> the guide was for openttd before difficulty was merged into the advanced settings
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13:33:46  <skyem123> me make a start on what?
13:35:35  <skyem123> me make a start on what, planetmaker?
13:35:46  <planetmaker> on such wiki page :-)
13:36:00  <skyem123> erm
13:36:13  * skyem123 is nerveous
13:36:25  <Benny> we have one already, but its a bit outdates
13:36:32  <Benny> outdated*
13:37:05  <Benny>
13:37:19  <skyem123> don't you have 2?
13:38:28  <skyem123> and if you include V453000's guide, 3?
13:39:03  <Benny> wiki articles > blog posts
13:39:05  <Benny> but sure
13:39:32  <Benny> its a good guide, dont get me wrong. V did a very good job on that
13:39:38  <skyem123> is there sutch thing as a personal wiki page?
13:39:50  <planetmaker> yeah, just update the page which Benny linked
13:40:00  <Benny> no the whole point of a wiki is collaborative contribution skyem ;)
13:40:06  <planetmaker> yeah, it's an excellent guide. Just needs updating. And ^^
13:40:19  <skyem123> meh
13:41:26  <planetmaker> having guides in too many places, one on each user page is not too helpful. Just one which is kept up2date by all is very helpful :-)
13:44:03  <skyem123> i made a small change
13:45:40  <planetmaker> :-) No need to be too shy. Wikis also have history. So text is never really lost, even if you totally re-edit the page
13:46:24  <planetmaker> and... looking at that page - its documentation with respect to the adv. settings, that's totally out of date, too
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13:46:37  <happy_> hi wood
13:46:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
13:46:50  <happy_> how things
13:46:50  <planetmaker> seems.... I created it in 2009 :D
13:47:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks, you?
13:47:14  <happy_> good
13:48:30  <planetmaker> meh. and there's the not better, but slightly more up2date version of
13:48:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  back in a minte  i just  got try this  game  that i download for my   latop
13:48:55  <Benny> also made in 2009!
13:49:03  <Benny> must've been an active year for the wiki
13:49:53  <skyem123> there needs to be a wysiwyg editor for the wiki
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13:52:09  <Benny> im betting there are dozens out there considering how many people are involved with wikis these days
13:54:51  <skyem123> there are plugins
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14:15:20  <V453000> uhmm skyem123 I forgot before, but why do you disable secondary industries can die, and primary industries can be born for FIRS?
14:15:37  <skyem123> defualt setting
14:15:47  <V453000> is that really default? o_O
14:15:50  <skyem123> yes
14:15:51  <V453000> I thought it wasnt
14:15:55  <V453000> well, change that then :
14:15:57  <V453000> :|
14:16:04  <skyem123> argh
14:16:19  <V453000> while at it, TTRS is nicer if you set "keep original houses: off"
14:16:33  <V453000> ttrs doesnt seem to be active though
14:17:38  <V453000> I dont see any TTRS building on the map :|
14:17:55  <skyem123> uhh
14:17:55  <V453000> but thats minor
14:18:02  <V453000> if you fix the industries, it should be good enough
14:18:34  <skyem123> set it to what?
14:18:51  <V453000> secondaries can die, primaries can spawn
14:19:17  <V453000> oh and station rating algorithm definitely isnt default on Favourable
14:19:27  <V453000> put that back to Grim and Mean :)
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14:24:38  <skyem123> wait, what was it set to?
14:24:51  <skyem123> (all the bad settings)
14:25:29  <V453000> cant you see that in the save? :o
14:25:42  <skyem123> can primarys open?
14:25:42  <V453000> previously it was set that primaries cant spawn and secondaries cant die
14:25:45  <V453000> both of which are wtf
14:25:52  <V453000> they should?
14:26:00  <skyem123> where are the settings?
14:26:07  <V453000> firs parameters?
14:26:21  <skyem123> ?
14:26:34  <V453000> firs parameter settings? idk how to say that
14:26:40  <V453000> the newGRF?
14:26:41  <Benny> >secondaries cant die
14:26:42  <skyem123> i know
14:26:43  <Benny> jesus christ no
14:26:54  <skyem123> i fixed that.
14:27:03  <skyem123> what about primarys can't open
14:27:03  <V453000> in the 2.0 it is wrong
14:27:30  <skyem123> i can't see the setting!
14:27:58  <V453000> and you are in parameter settings for FIRS
14:28:03  <skyem123> yes
14:28:48  <skyem123> Economy: FIRS Economy
14:29:03  <skyem123> Allow secondary industrys to close: On
14:29:04  <V453000> and the two below it?
14:29:17  <V453000> ^ was :off
14:29:30  <skyem123> Prevent indistries from opening druing gameplay: Off
14:29:38  <V453000> was off, should be on
14:29:43  <skyem123> what?
14:29:44  <V453000> both of them
14:29:55  <skyem123> so no industrys will open?
14:30:08  <V453000> oh god I cant read anymore
14:30:12  <V453000> yeah this one should be off
14:31:29  <skyem123> ok then...
14:31:38  <V453000> last the station rating
14:32:34  <skyem123> yup
14:40:31  <skyem123> skyem123's map 2.0: (TRS, UKRS2, MONOLEV) and (NUTS)
14:41:53  <V453000> uhmmm
14:41:58  <V453000> you didnt recreate map when changing industries?
14:42:01  <V453000> thats not very wise
14:42:08  <skyem123> erm
14:43:14  <skyem123> will it be that bad?
14:43:22  <V453000> it can have various effects
14:43:26  <V453000> cant really expect anything
14:43:34  <V453000> changing industries is generally almost suicidal
14:44:14  <skyem123> depends on how the newGRF is coded?
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14:44:25  <V453000> not even sure about that
14:45:08  <skyem123> should i remake the map?
14:45:22  <V453000> would be suitable, I thought you would do that automatically :d
14:45:32  <skyem123> (my pc didn't explode!)
14:45:45  <V453000> no need to include the changelog signs, just recreate it, put there the few signs, and I will load it in the evening
14:45:46  <skyem123> ah well
14:46:29  <skyem123> (the change log sings help me remember what i did)
14:46:56  <V453000> we wont be changing anything else now :)
14:47:09  <skyem123> FOR COMPLEATENESS!
14:49:10  <V453000> well for completeness its jus annoying as the scenario editor signs cant be removed in the game :)
14:49:33  <skyem123> what IS wrong with them?
14:49:36  <V453000> anyway, off for now ... I will be around european evening
14:49:45  <V453000> they can be confusing for people?
14:50:13  <V453000> just put the latest changes in the file name or something, but putting it to unremovable signs is pain
14:50:35  <skyem123> can i save it as .scn and you can remove them?
14:50:56  <V453000> you can rename .sav to .scn to convert it
14:51:03  <V453000> but I wont remove them, I am not a slave
14:51:07  <Benny> just include a readme in a zip if you want to have a changelog
14:51:10  <skyem123> awww
14:51:35  <skyem123> can i have version number in it?
14:51:46  <V453000> omfg
14:51:56  <V453000> in file name e.g.?
14:52:13  <V453000> anyway I have to go
14:52:16  <V453000> later
14:52:25  <Benny> see you
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14:55:04  <skyem123> Hello!
15:13:49  <skyem123> should i upload my map in a .zip?
15:14:57  <Benny> i'd say yes
15:16:30  <planetmaker> no. unzipped
15:16:36  <planetmaker> just the map
15:16:47  <planetmaker> without any download manager site which needs accessing
15:16:59  <planetmaker> zipping savegames is quite pointless.
15:17:15  <planetmaker> They *are* compressed
15:17:24  <planetmaker> re-compressing them saves absolutely no space
15:17:34  <skyem123> ok...
15:18:01  <planetmaker> and frankly, zip compression is worse than ours ;-)
15:18:21  <planetmaker> at least considering default parameters. xz is superior - and that's our default
15:19:32  <skyem123> i mean't to package both versions and a changelog together
15:20:23  <planetmaker> of a map which we should load here?
15:20:28  <skyem123> yes
15:20:39  <planetmaker> Let's put it that way: !getsave URL works with plain sav files
15:20:44  <skyem123> oh
15:20:48  <skyem123> ok
15:20:55  <planetmaker> I'm not thrilled by the need to ssh to the server, run an unzip, and then manually load it
15:21:02  <skyem123> ah
15:21:11  <planetmaker> i.e.: would not happen ;-)
15:21:36  <planetmaker> and things like dropbox should serve your need quite well
15:21:57  <planetmaker> and work for this also very well
15:22:07  <skyem123> i have dropbox
15:25:00  <planetmaker> anyway, g2g for a bit
15:25:11  <Benny> lol sshing into the server would take 30 seconds
15:25:21  <Benny> anyway i didnt know the save was to be used in an automated system
15:25:57  <Benny> no zip in that case of course
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15:27:38  <bon> hi
15:28:13  <skyem123> skyem123's Map 2.5: (Changelog), (UKRS2 Map), (NUTS Map)
15:29:59  <bon> eh...what climate? ^_^
15:30:09  <skyem123> temperate
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15:30:41  <bon> mm nice...can't look at savs here atm but temperate+firs sounds like fun to me anyway
15:31:22  <skyem123> would you prefer NUTS or ukrs2?
15:34:05  <bon> moment...
15:35:46  <bon> what year would you had started the game?
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15:36:05  <skyem123> 1900 for ukrs2, 1920 for NUTS
15:36:17  <bon> give me a moment again if you don't mind :)
15:37:21  <skyem123> what's wrong?
15:38:33  <bon> well thinking about it after looking at a few random examples from ukrs2+addons...I would say that if you're using firs then ukrs2+addon could probably work just fine
15:38:48  <bon> its your call since you're the one doing the map naturally ;)
15:40:45  <bon> the only one nitpick I may want to mention is ensuring that 3rd rail exists during rail construction
15:41:12  <skyem123> it does
15:41:30  <skyem123> "finescale standard guage adds that"
15:41:38  <skyem123> "finescale standard guage" adds that
15:41:47  <bon> allright...I've kinda liked some of the 3rd electricification locomotives especially for early passengers so thats why I brought it up
15:42:11  <skyem123> london underground
15:42:15  <bon> well..I guess ukrs2/addon/finescale/firs sounds like a nice major change even if only for one map
15:42:36  <bon> skyem...heh ofc these tube trains are good for city services as they don't care for turning on a dime :)
15:42:54  <bon> I've sometimes "abused" them on town-to-town lines instead but mm its just a grf tho ;)
15:43:08  <skyem123> depends on weather V453000 chooses UKRS2 or NUTS
15:43:40  <bon> yeah
15:44:39  <bon> skyem but either way ukrs with firs seem reasonable..after all nothing like a 0-6-0 Goods (1873) hauling eight cars worth 80 tonnes of minerals
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15:44:50  <bon> not too huge train capacity which sorta matches
15:44:54  <bon> but thats only my thought
15:45:44  <bon> lets see what he thinks. after all the map seem like due for a reset later if not tomorrow
15:46:34  <bon> style is a bit different perhaps but I never could ever find ukrs useable with original industries as it seem like you had to run american-like heavy long trains just to barely keep up
15:46:47  <Benny> dont think i've ever played a coop-style game with steam before
15:47:10  <bon> benny do have some electrics in the 1910's tho just as a footnote
15:47:38  <bon> but mm yeah uk diesels came in the 1950's like with most other countries
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15:48:25  <Benny> yeah i know, i used to use UKRS lots when i played eyecandy/realistic games years ago
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15:49:56  <bon> benny heh I will admit one of my favorite late passengers for ukrs would be C321(A)-express-express-C321(B) 'sets'
15:50:17  <bon> sometimes if its a very flat route with long runs between platforms I'll allow 5-car sets
15:50:34  <bon> usually one or two sets but I did have the rare three sets at times
15:51:48  <bon> I'm not sure how the real EMU's were made up in uk but mmm eh
15:53:33  <bon> benny how about the 2-6-4 Suburban? I sometimes just liked to run them in push-pull with two to four coaches just like how the paris commuter network used to around the same years :)
15:53:45  <Benny> its been ages so i cannot remember
15:53:55  <bon> heh np...I haven't touched it for some time either
15:54:21  <bon> benny which traingrf do you play with ourself these days?
15:54:25  <bon> yourself*
15:54:28  <bon> meh stupid y key
15:55:00  <Benny> i have barely touched openttd for a couple of years now so none
15:55:19  <Benny> when i was active i loved the ukrs set and that db set by michael blunck
15:55:24  <Benny> he's an amazing sprite artist
15:58:21  <bon> mm
15:58:29  <bon> I still like dbsetxl myself too indeed
16:03:57  <bon> oh and HEQS, can't go wrong with it :p
16:04:29  <Benny> oh yeah, i remember seeing andy start that project on tt-forums if im not mistaken
16:07:16  <Benny> wow it has grown into quite the collection of vehicles since then
16:08:31  <bon> benny well I usually skip most of HEQS tho..its really the trams that are my interest. but sometimes I do run the 'train' tractors tho. slow but ehh they will go about anywhere :)
16:08:58  <bon> skyem123 oh yeah what did you set rv limit to for the ukrs map?
16:08:59  <Benny> train tractors?
16:09:07  <skyem123> 20
16:09:22  <bon> benny sorry not sure what it was actually called now.. one tracked tractor hauling several wagons over dirt/pavement
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16:09:25  <skyem123> that was the max that V453000 wanted
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16:09:46  <bon> skyem123..hmm 20 sounds decent. using occassional bus to feed areas into tube system
16:10:09  <Benny> oh yes sorry, i was thinking train as in railroad vehicles
16:10:54  <skyem123> articulated veicles?
16:11:01  <skyem123> (bendy buses)
16:11:03  <skyem123> :-p
16:12:35  <bon> benny np... "road train" is a common term in australia and certain parts of north america
16:12:47  <bon> it really means a highway truck with 2+ trailers
16:16:20  <bon> skyem...yeah bendy = articulated ... I think 'bendy' seem to be a uk thing tho
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16:19:54  <skyem123> Hello!
16:22:40  <bon> mm well skyem I have to go for a small 2hr-ish apt now...see what he thinks of your two firs maps allright? ;)
16:22:44  <bon> bye now
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16:27:33  <Mark> skyem123: maps looks good
16:27:42  <Mark> nuts is probably best with first
16:28:01  <skyem123> but most maps use NUTS
16:28:02  <Mark> if you do want to use ukrs, you'll probably want to turn off wagon speed limits
16:28:05  <Mark> they're annoying as hell
16:28:11  <skyem123> oh dear#
16:28:24  <Mark> yeah they do, because its probably the best trainset :P
16:28:24  <skyem123> do i need to update my map?
16:28:41  <Mark> if you want to use ukrs yes
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16:28:56  <Mark> not sure if it can be changed through rcon
16:29:02  <Mark> !rcon set wagon_speed_limits
16:29:02  <Stablean> Mark: Current value for 'wagon_speed_limits' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1)
16:29:04  <skyem123> what is rcon?
16:29:07  <Mark> looks like it could
16:29:11  <Mark> remote console
16:29:25  <Mark> as in, change it while the game is running
16:29:35  <Mark> most advanced settings can be changed in a running game, some cant
16:30:27  <skyem123> erm...
16:30:43  <skyem123> should i update the map>
16:31:20  <skyem123> *?
16:35:01  <skyem123> sneaky update
16:36:22  <skyem123> (i overote the old file)
16:40:40  <skyem123> what do you think of my map?
16:40:56  <skyem123> as in the "hidden" thing
16:44:24  <Mark> what hidden thing
16:44:40  <skyem123> at the start of the map
16:47:36  <skyem123> in the water
16:50:41  <skyem123> anyway...
16:50:59  <skyem123> is 1024x1024 too large for a map?
16:53:22  <Benny> dont think so
16:54:28  <Benny> lots of people find 512 way too small so 1024 is just fine
16:55:44  <skyem123> when i create another map i will have it 1024x1024
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16:55:51  <Taede> 512x512 or 512x1024 tend to be good for this server
16:55:53  <skyem123> MOAR space!
16:56:03  <Taede> 1024x1024 tends to be considered too large
16:56:11  <skyem123> aww
16:56:32  <Benny> oh this isnt a coop server
16:56:39  <Benny> wtf
16:57:27  <skyem123> not coop but still friendly!
16:58:39  <Benny> haha i have been out of the loop wayy too long
16:58:46  <Benny> checked the archives
16:58:54  <Benny> barely any coop games with anything bigger than 512x512
16:59:07  <Benny> so lots of people consider 256 too small, not 512. pardon my mistake
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17:02:36  <Mark> skyem123: 1024^2 is too big
17:02:46  <skyem123> aww
17:02:46  <Mark> it's not needed and uses to much cpu
17:03:06  <Mark> on coop we never use bigger than 512*512
17:03:18  <Mark> even 512*1024 is too big for train heavy games
17:06:58  <skyem123> meh
17:08:24  <Benny> apparently its halloween today
17:08:37  <skyem123> it is!
17:08:43  <Benny> how fitting that i happen to be playing a horror game!
17:08:58  <skyem123> ...
17:09:03  <skyem123> wow
17:09:23  <Benny> wow?
17:09:48  <skyem123> don't worry!
17:09:58  <skyem123> i find that funny
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17:52:19  <skyem123> hello!
17:52:22  <Stablean> <Mark> yo
17:53:26  <Stablean> <skyem123> i changed the wagon speed limit on my map
17:53:52  <Stablean> <skyem123> *disabled
17:54:53  <skyem123> to get it you need to redownload
17:55:10  <Stablean> <Mark> its fine with me
17:55:20  <Stablean> <Mark> not sure if we're ready for a new game
17:55:26  <Stablean> <Mark> you might want to have V have a look at it too
17:55:50  <skyem123> are there any other maps?
17:56:02  <Stablean> <Mark> dont think so
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17:57:25  <skyem123> hello
17:57:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
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18:01:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi etc
18:04:01  <Stablean> <skyem123> erk
18:04:27  <Stablean> <Mark> good spot for a crash
18:04:51  <skyem123> well, you seem to have jammed your network
18:04:55  <Stablean> <Mark> absolutely every train will be stopped soon
18:05:03  <Stablean> <Mark> oh it has already
18:05:39  <skyem123> Why did it crash?
18:06:01  <Stablean> <Mark> because it hit another train :P
18:06:09  <Benny> hahahaha
18:06:19  <skyem123> why did it hit another train?
18:06:37  <Stablean> <Mark> cause i was messing around with signals
18:06:47  <skyem123> will it happen again>
18:06:48  <skyem123> ?
18:06:52  <Stablean> <Mark> probably
18:06:56  <Benny> all too often
18:07:00  <skyem123> erm
18:11:11  <Stablean> <Mark> so are we ready for a new map?
18:11:18  <skyem123> i am
18:11:24  <Stablean> <Mark> i know you are :D
18:11:28  <skyem123> :-p
18:11:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what about happy transport ?
18:11:58  <Mark> happy_
18:12:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ot might all have been in vain
18:12:26  <Stablean> <Mark> all what
18:12:30  <happy_> hi  mark
18:12:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> all for nothing
18:12:41  <Stablean> <Mark> hi happy
18:12:43  <Stablean> <Mark> you want a new map?
18:12:52  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game
18:13:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi alll
18:13:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
18:13:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> h
18:13:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> e
18:13:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> l
18:13:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> l
18:13:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> o
18:14:03  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4
18:14:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> how is it with you?
18:14:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
18:15:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> mark  u  arsk  me     if  i  whont  a new  map
18:15:25  <Stablean> <Mark> yes
18:15:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  am redey  for a  new  map
18:15:51  <Stablean> <Mark> k lets do it then
18:16:02  <Stablean> <Mark> skyem123: did you want to do the ukrs or nuts?
18:16:29  <skyem123> ukrs
18:16:50  <skyem123> remember to redownload the fresh map (i updated it)
18:17:32  <Mark> that one?
18:17:55  <skyem123> yes
18:18:08  <Mark> !getsave
18:18:15  <Stablean> Mark: OK :-)
18:18:20  <Mark> !rcon ls
18:18:21  <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:18:21  <Stablean> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
18:18:21  <Stablean> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
18:18:21  <Stablean> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
18:18:21  <Stablean> Mark: 4) restart.sav
18:18:22  <Stablean> Mark: you have 37 more messages
18:18:26  <Mark> !rcon cd 3
18:18:27  <Mark> !rcon ls
18:18:28  <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:18:28  <Stablean> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
18:18:28  <Stablean> Mark: 2) map2.5.sav
18:18:28  <Stablean> Mark: 3) JStable281012.sav
18:18:28  <Stablean> Mark: 4) JSTABLE_281012.sav
18:18:28  <skyem123> dun dun dun dun dun!
18:18:30  <Stablean> Mark: you have 226 more messages
18:18:36  <Mark> !rcon load 2
18:19:09  <skyem123> is it still loading?
18:19:12  <Mark> yes
18:19:13  *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop.stable
18:19:16  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
18:19:18  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
18:19:19  <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game
18:19:21  <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game
18:19:22  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#1)
18:19:24  <Stablean> <Mark> wrong map
18:19:25  <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game
18:19:25  <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game
18:19:29  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game
18:19:31  <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game
18:19:34  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving)
18:19:34  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
18:19:36  <skyem123> oops!
18:19:44  <Mark> probably not your fault
18:19:53  <Vinnie> either that or server has missing grf's
18:20:08  <Mark> yea... how did that work again
18:20:14  <Mark> !content
18:20:14  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established
18:20:14  <Vinnie> !content
18:20:14  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
18:20:14  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Nothing to download
18:20:14  <Stablean> Vinnie: you must be channel op to use !content
18:20:15  <skyem123> that was awkward...
18:20:34  <Mark> !reset
18:20:37  <Mark> !reload
18:20:37  <Stablean> Mark: usage: !reload config|irc|lib|all
18:20:44  <Vinnie> restart
18:20:48  <Mark> !restart
18:20:50  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
18:20:55  <skyem123> uhh
18:21:03  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
18:21:03  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.3.2.
18:21:07  <Stablean> Server has exited
18:21:07  *** Stablean has quit IRC
18:21:13  <Vinnie> then load map again via cd commands
18:21:24  <Mark> !rcon load 2
18:21:34  <Vinnie> wait for stablean to reconnect
18:21:48  *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable
18:21:48  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
18:21:48  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server ('
18:21:48  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
18:21:49  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read | run !setdef after loading a new game |"
18:21:49  <Mark> yeah might need that :P
18:21:52  <Vinnie> and give a command line with lots of 000000000000 before you give command
18:21:53  <Mark> !rcon load 2
18:22:03  <Mark> what
18:22:25  <Vinnie> it should say !autopilot v450000000 is executed or something
18:23:21  <skyem123> hmm
18:24:10  <Vinnie> test
18:24:19  *** happy_ has left #openttdcoop.stable
18:24:23  <Mark> help
18:24:27  <Mark> someone? :D
18:24:34  *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable
18:24:38  <skyem123> read the wiki!
18:25:32  <Mark> !content
18:25:38  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established
18:25:38  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
18:25:38  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Nothing to download
18:25:43  <Mark> !rcon ls
18:25:53  <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:25:53  <Stablean> Mark: 1) ai/ (Directory)
18:25:53  <Stablean> Mark: 2) autopilot/ (Directory)
18:25:53  <Stablean> Mark: 3) baseset/ (Directory)
18:25:53  <Stablean> Mark: 4) bin/ (Directory)
18:25:54  <Stablean> Mark: you have 19 more messages
18:27:00  <skyem123> maybe you should redownload the map.
18:27:27  <Taede> or cd to the savedir
18:27:34  <Benny> ^
18:27:55  <skyem123> do both!
18:28:11  <Mark> so where is the save dir
18:28:17  <Taede> try !rcon cd save
18:28:22  <Taede> just like that
18:28:43  <Mark> !rcon cd save
18:28:43  <Stablean> Mark: save: No such file or directory.
18:28:45  <Vinnie> try !more
18:28:52  <Mark> !rcon cd uploads
18:28:52  <Stablean> Mark: say "<Vinnie> try !more"
18:28:52  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: <Vinnie> try !more
18:28:52  <Stablean> Mark: uploads: No such file or directory.
18:29:34  <Benny> just ssh into the thing or get kenji in here, jesus
18:29:46  <Taede> more empties when you try a new rcon command
18:30:17  <Mark> V453000, KenjiE20, planetmaker?
18:30:38  <Taede> sec
18:30:43  <Mark> i havent got a clue about ssh and such
18:30:59  <happy_> skyem123  up  load  the  map  a gen
18:31:10  <Mark> nah
18:31:17  <Benny> the map is already uploaded to the server
18:31:20  <skyem123> different file name?
18:31:25  <Mark> wont matter
18:31:25  <Benny> its just that noone knows how the irc bot works
18:31:36  <Taede> mark: rcon cd 2
18:31:38  *** Vinnie is now known as Vinnie_NL
18:31:47  <Taede> then rcon ls
18:31:53  <Vinnie_NL> test
18:31:57  <planetmaker> @op Taede
18:31:57  *** Webster sets mode: +o Taede
18:32:11  <planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P
18:32:19  <Mark> !rcon cd 2
18:32:19  <Stablean> Mark: say "<planetmaker> @op Taede "
18:32:19  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: <planetmaker> @op Taede
18:32:19  <Stablean> Mark: say "<planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P"
18:32:19  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: <planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P
18:32:19  <Stablean> Mark: 2: No such file or directory.
18:32:24  <Mark> yeah that works great
18:32:24  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:32:24  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Mark> yeah that works great"
18:32:24  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Stablean: <Mark> yeah that works great
18:32:24  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:32:33  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:32:33  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:32:37  <Taede> !rcon cd 0
18:32:50  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:32:50  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:32:50  <Stablean> Taede: 1) ai/ (Directory)
18:32:50  <Stablean> Taede: 2) baseset/ (Directory)
18:32:50  <Stablean> Taede: 3) data/ (Directory)
18:32:50  <Stablean> Taede: 4) game/ (Directory)
18:32:52  <Stablean> Taede: you have 2 more messages
18:32:52  <Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines
18:32:54  <Taede> !rcon pwd
18:32:54  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines"
18:32:54  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines
18:32:54  <Stablean> Taede: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/bin/
18:33:10  <Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir
18:33:20  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:33:20  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir"
18:33:20  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Stablean: <Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir
18:33:20  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** Game paused (connecting clients)
18:33:20  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** Dobi has joined the game (Client #15)
18:33:20  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** Dobi has started a new company (#1)
18:33:22  <Stablean> Taede: you have 8 more messages
18:33:25  <Taede> !more
18:33:25  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** Game unpaused (connecting clients)
18:33:25  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:33:25  <Stablean> Taede: 1) ai/ (Directory)
18:33:26  <Stablean> Taede: 2) baseset/ (Directory)
18:33:26  <Stablean> Taede: 3) data/ (Directory)
18:33:27  <Taede> !more
18:33:28  <Stablean> Taede: you have 3 more messages
18:33:28  <Stablean> Taede: 4) game/ (Directory)
18:33:30  <Stablean> Taede: 5) lang/ (Directory)
18:33:30  <Stablean> Taede: 6) scripts/ (Directory)
18:33:48  <Taede> !rcon cd 0
18:33:53  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:33:53  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:33:53  <Stablean> Taede: 1) autopilot/ (Directory)
18:33:53  <Stablean> Taede: 2) bin/ (Directory)
18:33:53  <Stablean> Taede: 3) bundle/ (Directory)
18:33:53  <Stablean> Taede: 4) docs/ (Directory)
18:33:54  <Stablean> Taede: you have 7 more messages
18:33:57  <Taede> !rcon cd 1
18:33:57  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Mark: no point building anything people
18:33:59  <Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location
18:34:16  <Taede> i know where it saves to, just not used to navigating there via rcon
18:34:23  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:34:23  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** trainopolis has left the game (leaving)
18:34:23  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location"
18:34:23  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location
18:34:23  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Mark: this map will be restarted soon
18:34:23  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Taede> i know where it saves to, just not used to navigating there via rcon"
18:34:24  <Stablean> Taede: you have 25 more messages
18:34:29  <Taede> !cd save
18:34:33  <Taede> !rcon cd save
18:34:35  <Mark> looks like an ap issue
18:34:38  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: say "<Mark> looks like an ap issue"
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: ‎[All] Stablean: <Mark> looks like an ap issue
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: 1) archive/ (Directory)
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
18:34:38  <Stablean> Taede: you have 39 more messages
18:34:42  <Taede> !more
18:34:42  <Stablean> Taede: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
18:34:42  <Stablean> Taede: 4) restart.sav
18:34:42  <Stablean> Taede: 5) usual_madness.sav
18:34:42  <Stablean> Taede: 6) preboot20130814.sav
18:34:42  <Stablean> Taede: 7) StableArcS18continue.sav
18:34:44  <Stablean> Taede: you have 34 more messages
18:34:46  <Taede> !rcon cd 3
18:34:48  <Taede> !rcon ls
18:34:49  <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory)
18:34:49  <Stablean> Taede: 1) archive/ (Directory)
18:34:49  <Stablean> Taede: 2) map2.5.sav
18:34:49  <Stablean> Taede: 3) JStable281012.sav
18:34:49  <Stablean> Taede: 4) JSTABLE_281012.sav
18:34:50  <Stablean> Taede: you have 226 more messages
18:35:03  <skyem123> HOLY MAPS!
18:35:03  <Taede> is #2 the one you want to load?
18:35:11  <skyem123> yes
18:35:28  <Mark> !content
18:35:28  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established
18:35:28  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 8 file(s) (453961 bytes)
18:35:28  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2904
18:35:28  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2924
18:35:28  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2905
18:35:30  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2907
18:35:31  <Mark> wait a second
18:35:33  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2917
18:35:34  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2925
18:35:34  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2926
18:35:34  <Taede> k
18:35:35  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2916
18:35:35  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] All 8 downloaded
18:35:36  <Stablean> Mark: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
18:35:49  <Mark> !rcon load 2
18:36:14  <Mark> !rescan newgrf
18:36:16  <Vinnie_NL> need a restart
18:36:23  <Mark> !restart
18:36:23  <Vinnie_NL> it says in last save
18:36:24  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
18:36:26  <Vinnie_NL> line
18:36:37  <skyem123> WE ALL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING!
18:36:59  <Vinnie_NL> out of the 5 times i did this i failed 4
18:37:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
18:37:10  <Vinnie_NL> and all are over a year ago
18:37:12  <skyem123> typo!
18:37:23  <Mark> a failed about 190/200 times i think
18:37:31  <Mark> over the last 7 years
18:38:11  <skyem123> *191/201
18:38:13  <skyem123> notw
18:38:16  <skyem123> *now
18:38:24  <Vinnie_NL> its bugged it isnt closing
18:38:35  <Mark> !restart
18:38:36  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
18:41:03  <planetmaker> great
18:42:30  <Benny> just do it manually, jesus
18:43:23  <Mark> i havent got a clue how
18:43:28  <happy_> mark   doo a test  map   and see  if that  load  ferst
18:43:37  <Mark> last try
18:43:39  <Mark> !rcon ls
18:43:39  <Stablean> Mark: "<Vinnie_NL> it says in last save"
18:43:39  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
18:43:39  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> it says in last save
18:43:39  <Stablean> Mark: ‎*** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
18:43:39  <Stablean> Mark: say "<Vinnie_NL> line"
18:43:40  <Stablean> Mark: you have 273 more messages
18:43:44  <Mark> ...
18:43:47  <Mark> !rcon load 2
18:43:47  <Stablean> Mark: say "<Mark> ..."
18:43:47  <Stablean> Mark: ‎[All] Stablean: <Mark> ...
18:44:00  <Benny> !more
18:44:01  <Stablean> Benny: you have no more messages
18:44:13  <skyem123> is there a way to force a restart?
18:44:35  <Benny> several
18:44:43  *** Stablean has quit IRC
18:45:03  <skyem123> yey
18:45:49  <planetmaker> so. what's the filename?
18:46:10  <planetmaker> Benny, and you're very smart, are you?
18:46:29  <Benny> uh?
18:46:36  <skyem123> the file is called map2.5.sav
18:47:16  *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable
18:47:16  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
18:47:16  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server ('
18:47:16  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
18:47:16  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read | run !setdef after loading a new game |"
18:47:28  <planetmaker> there we go
18:47:52  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
18:48:10  <Mark> cheers pm :)
18:48:14  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
18:48:17  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game
18:48:30  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
18:48:33  <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game
18:48:36  <Stablean> <Mark> and its the right map too
18:48:38  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#2)
18:48:38  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
18:48:41  <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game
18:48:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> yey!
18:48:54  <planetmaker> tyvm, skyem123 for the map
18:49:00  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
18:49:15  <Stablean> *** Mark has started a new company (#3)
18:49:23  <Stablean> <bon> really funny timing there...I just checked in for a moment..was offline so I thought ehhh...but thne it appeared online and so here I am too
18:49:27  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #1
18:49:27  <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game
18:49:39  <Stablean> <bon> mmm this map looks more interesting
18:50:17  <Stablean> <skyem123> where to build...
18:50:40  <Stablean> <bon> heh I'm trying to decide which island I want to try lay on :)
18:50:50  <Stablean> <bon> something not too tiny ofc
18:51:15  <skyem123> see the skyem123 in the sea?
18:51:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> 90 degree turns are on
18:51:46  <skyem123> oops
18:51:48  <planetmaker> !setdef
18:51:49  <Stablean> *** planetmaker has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
18:51:54  <Stablean> <bon> mm no..where skyem?
18:52:04  <skyem123> at start
18:52:13  <skyem123> where the text is
18:53:26  <skyem123> "skyem123" is writtern
18:53:45  <Stablean> <bon> sorry but I don't see that
18:53:56  <Stablean> <bon> unless you placed it somewhere else (since signlist doesn't show them)
18:54:15  <skyem123> it is made of water
18:54:54  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators
18:55:23  <Jam35> !auto
18:55:23  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has enabled autopause mode.
18:55:25  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual)
18:55:38  <Stablean> *** Benny joined the game
18:55:42  <Stablean> <bon> hi benny
18:55:49  <Stablean> <bon> just about to start myself :)
18:55:50  <Stablean> <Benny> hello
18:56:08  <Stablean> <Benny> i can see it skyem
18:56:08  <Stablean> <Benny> clever
18:57:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam  u  going to start  a compan
18:57:45  <Stablean> *** bon has started a new company (#1)
18:58:01  <Stablean> <Mark> nice signals
18:58:12  <Stablean> <Mark> shame you cant see them
18:58:14  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.. ukrs2 buy list looks different now
18:58:28  <Stablean> <Benny> haha those signals are great
18:58:38  <Stablean> <Mark> they're hardly visible
18:59:08  <Stablean> <Benny> signals seen from the back dont seem to show red/green at all
18:59:11  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#4)
18:59:31  <Stablean> <Mark> fuck this
18:59:41  <Stablean> <Mark> dont even have enough money to start
18:59:43  <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators
18:59:48  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 3
18:59:49  <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted.
19:00:01  <Stablean> *** Mark has started a new company (#3)
19:00:21  <Stablean> <Benny> oh we have basecosts
19:00:35  <Stablean> <Mark> why...
19:00:54  <skyem123> i didn't raise the price of the trains...
19:00:57  <Stablean> <Mark> nothing's changed though
19:01:03  <Stablean> <Benny> oh this is a new version
19:01:09  <Stablean> <Mark> just TF
19:01:15  <Stablean> <Benny> the old one raised all costs by default
19:01:15  <Stablean> <Mark> guess im just stupid
19:01:42  <Stablean> <Benny> but you barely built anything
19:01:46  <Stablean> <Benny> this is odd
19:02:56  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure...I'm having lot of money left for a train yet
19:03:30  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#5)
19:04:01  <skyem123> in my next map, do i need to lower the costs?
19:04:06  <Stablean> <Benny> maybe this is just on a higher difficulty or something
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19:04:11  <Stablean> <bon> looks fine to me skyem
19:04:21  <Stablean> <Mark> its playable
19:04:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe the rail type modifies the costs
19:04:36  <Stablean> <bon> mark..yeah I still have too much $ left :)
19:04:42  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#6)
19:04:47  <Stablean> <Mark> give me some then :P
19:04:53  <Stablean> <Mark> this is going to take forever
19:04:55  <Stablean> <bon> can't...not loanfree sorry :P
19:05:09  <Stablean> <bon> "forever"? seriously..I could fund 4+ trains now and thats too easy :p
19:05:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> maglev is 20x normal rail
19:05:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> and that is 10x universal
19:05:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> must be the track set
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19:06:04  <Stablean> <Benny> bon: with the money you spent building that i could have built a double track from one side of the map to the other in vanilla openttd
19:06:18  <Stablean> <bon> benny...then?
19:06:22  <skyem123> yeah... adjust base costs...
19:06:30  <Stablean> <bon> keep forgetting one thing...
19:06:37  <skyem123> what?
19:06:42  <Stablean> <bon> this isn't supposed to be a finish-in-5-minute game jeeze :p
19:06:49  <Stablean> <bon> if I can run a few trains the first few minutes then its just fine :)
19:07:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> put baseset costs before the rail type might help
19:07:14  <Stablean> <Mark> rails are epensive
19:07:18  <Stablean> <Benny> it is playable indeed, i was just puzzled
19:07:30  <Stablean> <bon> mark...then why aren't you looking at the profit?
19:07:45  <skyem123> doesn't the last newGRF in the list override ones before it?
19:08:05  <Stablean> <Mark> no
19:08:53  <skyem123> what is the invisible leading engine for?
19:08:58  <Stablean> <Benny> eyecandy
19:09:10  <Stablean> <Benny> having cars sitting in sidings without an engine in front
19:09:15  <skyem123> oh
19:09:41  <skyem123> cars that are getting shunted?
19:09:45  <skyem123> wow
19:09:47  <Stablean> <bon> me sBRc if you want ... me being a bit silly with company name :)
19:09:53  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not BR but thinking I am ;)
19:10:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> might be a nice way of upgrading to 2x engines later on
19:10:42  <skyem123> slow start
19:11:00  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...or replacing doublehead with single too?
19:11:08  <Stablean> <bon> i may have to try that in a few hours with newer loco
19:12:39  <skyem123> look at my company
19:12:57  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice :)
19:13:23  <Stablean> <bon> I picked a bit of a hilly line but ehh thats ok
19:13:29  <Stablean> <bon> could use metals anyway
19:13:35  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#5)
19:13:48  <Stablean> <bon> hopefully slow expand further upward
19:14:03  <Stablean> <Mark> that train might make you 0 skyem123
19:14:27  <skyem123> what do you mean?
19:14:31  <Stablean> <bon> well my three are making about a thousand pounds each and its not even mid-year yet
19:14:37  <Stablean> <Mark> hehe not even
19:14:37  <Stablean> <Mark> 590
19:15:10  <Stablean> *** Kelvin has started a new company (#6)
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19:15:32  <skyem123> heh...
19:15:37  <skyem123> my engine is shunted
19:15:48  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Irules
19:15:54  <Stablean> <Kelvin> o
19:15:54  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Sorry
19:16:02  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Is there auto clear on this server?
19:16:10  <skyem123> what does that mean?
19:16:12  <Stablean> <bon> only if its an empty company with no trains
19:16:14  <Stablean> <bon> or went deep into debt
19:16:17  <planetmaker> thereis
19:17:03  <Stablean> <Kelvin> So your account will stay with trains and other stuff no matter what or is there a time limit?
19:17:13  <Stablean> <bon> yeah thats pretty much it kelvin
19:17:16  <Stablean> <Mark> it will
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19:22:59  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
19:23:01  <Stablean> <Mark> hi
19:23:04  <Stablean> <bon> hi muel again :)
19:23:58  <Stablean> <bon> oh touche....some towns need gasoline heh
19:24:00  <Stablean> <Muel> no firs :(
19:24:08  <skyem123> there is FIRS!
19:24:11  <Stablean> <bon> I like it..its a better output match for ukrs tbh
19:24:13  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:24:27  <Stablean> <bon> I said heh ^^
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19:26:35  <Stablean> <King Peky> Hello
19:26:37  <Stablean> <bon> hi
19:26:39  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
19:26:45  <Stablean> <Mark> yo
19:30:31  <Stablean> *** Muel has started a new company (#6)
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19:37:26  <skyem123> VERY hard to start
19:37:34  <Stablean> <Benny> mark found a way to cheat the system ;)
19:37:34  <Stablean> <Muel> yes i see
19:37:41  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Hmm
19:37:48  <Stablean> <bon> think so? ^_^
19:38:08  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah i cant win otherwise :D
19:38:16  <skyem123> HOW?
19:38:20  <Stablean> <bon> want win in 1 year?
19:38:28  <Stablean> <Benny> look at his road vehicles skyem
19:38:32  <Stablean> <Benny> abusing station walking
19:38:36  <Stablean> <Benny> its brilliant
19:38:38  <Stablean> <Mark> sssssh
19:38:44  <Stablean> <Benny> hahaha
19:39:04  <Stablean> <Benny> im actually impressed
19:39:07  <Stablean> <bon> thats one....cruel abuse ;)
19:39:17  <Stablean> <Mark> its an ancient cheat
19:39:21  <Stablean> <bon> not what station outreach was meant for
19:39:27  <Stablean> <Mark> got me banned from some servers like 5 years ago
19:39:33  <Stablean> <Benny> lol
19:39:37  <skyem123> woah
19:39:45  <Stablean> <Kelvin> lol
19:39:55  <Stablean> <Mark> with station spread 64 buses might make 4k a trip
19:40:06  <Stablean> <Mark> you can use it for transfering and make much more
19:40:24  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Wait whats is the goal for this server?
19:40:26  <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather stick to real station catchment useages thank you
19:40:30  <skyem123> build
19:40:33  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Im new so I don't really know
19:40:35  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah you should :D
19:40:35  <Stablean> <Benny> Kelvin: build and have fun?
19:40:41  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Cool thanks
19:40:42  <skyem123> untill you get board
19:40:46  <Stablean> <Mark> ill reset my company in a bit anyway
19:40:50  <Stablean> <Kelvin> Are planes activated on this server?
19:40:54  <skyem123> yup
19:40:58  <skyem123> nope
19:41:00  <skyem123> nope
19:41:01  <skyem123> forgot
19:41:12  <Stablean> <Kelvin> ok
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19:45:00  <skyem123> hmm...
19:45:33  <skyem123> when do 3rd rail trains come....
19:45:41  <Stablean> <bon> 1914+ as I recall
19:45:47  <Stablean> <bon> but non-passenger ones is a bit later tho
19:46:02  <skyem123> good
19:46:08  <skyem123> to know
19:46:11  <Stablean> <bon> yeah :)
19:46:18  <Stablean> <bon> skyem one tidbit I do know tho...
19:46:35  <skyem123> what?
19:47:06  <Stablean> <bon> the 1914 Southern Railway EMU (or SR EMU for short) was .. well lets say the 3rd rail system was mostly installed by the 1930s but war put a halt to the trains themself that for many years after war steam still ran everywhere down south
19:47:28  <Stablean> <bon> at least the emu trains themself were decent nevertheless
19:47:38  <Stablean> <Mark> wow we have a train buff
19:47:42  <skyem123> is that why when going south all the trains are 3rd rail?
19:47:46  <Stablean> <bon> not really mark..just know a few particular special things
19:48:04  <Stablean> <bon> skyem123..I think...I mean if 3rd rail worked for SR then why should BR spend money trashing it for overhead right?
19:48:12  <skyem123> yes
19:48:14  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:48:40  <Stablean> <bon> skyem and the APT was supposed to be the future. but mm yeah
19:49:03  <skyem123> the trains that go behind my house are 25kv AC overhead
19:49:11  <Stablean> <bon> at least ukrs2-addon does have the APT train included :)
19:49:15  <skyem123> the same as on the west coast main line
19:49:19  <Stablean> <bon> I've used it a bit last I recall a ukrs game
19:49:39  <Stablean> <bon> well you'll get some nice freight and passenger overhead electrics later on too :P
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19:50:04  <Stablean> <bon> especially the Class 91 which is still used for some chunnel trains (only reason I kinda knew of them)
19:50:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice, alcohol
19:50:12  <Stablean> <bon> hi vinnie
19:50:18  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
19:50:20  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I'm having fun here vinnie :P
19:50:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
19:51:12  <Stablean> <bon> skyem also did you know that a underground 0-4-2T actually ran on one route with some historic wooden wagons a while ago as an anniversitary thing? :)
19:51:15  <Stablean> <bon> was fun to read about it :P
19:51:23  <skyem123> yes
19:51:28  <skyem123> i wen't on it
19:51:32  <Stablean> <bon> ah...lucky you heh
19:51:38  <Stablean> <bon> I'm in canada so way too far for me
19:51:44  <skyem123> London underground 150
19:51:46  <Stablean> <Muel> canada<3
19:52:10  <Stablean> <bon> skyem yeah I recall some people asking why the hell they were allowing a steam l ocomotive down there... these very people obviously had no history clue :)
19:52:24  <Stablean> <bon> the route it went on was the old original pre-electric routes with better ventilations etc
19:52:54  <Stablean> <bon> oh look....a tube car is out now :)
19:53:16  <skyem123> half of the journy was by steam. the other by early electric
19:53:22  <Stablean> <bon> would be nice for later towns when they're larger
19:53:28  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...yeah
19:55:31  <Stablean> *** King Peky has left the game (leaving)
19:56:31  <Stablean> <bon> found a nice short route so I decided to run one for now :)
19:57:38  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7)
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19:58:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> vinnie  thanks  for  your  help   in the larst   game
19:58:19  <Stablean> <Muel> bon: ?
19:58:22  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8)
19:58:28  <Stablean> <bon> muel hm?
19:58:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your welcome
19:58:42  <Stablean> <Muel> sign up this
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19:59:01  <Mark> !rcon set inflation
19:59:01  <Stablean> Mark: Current value for 'inflation' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
19:59:03  <Stablean> <bon>
19:59:06  <Mark> !rcon set inflation 0
19:59:13  <Stablean> <Muel> why you dont have stadion ?
19:59:14  <Mark> skyem123: inflation should be off please
19:59:18  <Stablean> <bon> atm
19:59:27  <skyem123> oopa
19:59:29  <skyem123> oops
19:59:38  <Stablean> <Muel> lol 2000 Ł ?
19:59:44  <Stablean> <bon> didn't bugtest the map eh skyem?
19:59:50  <skyem123> nope
19:59:56  <Stablean> <Muel> you see?
19:59:58  <Stablean> <Mark> ive turned it off
20:00:01  <Stablean> <bon> muel..thats cheat
20:00:03  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5
20:00:05  <Stablean> <bon> and I prefer not
20:00:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  jam
20:00:40  <Stablean> <Muel> but on start it is good :)
20:00:48  <Stablean> <bon> I have enough ore for now anyway
20:00:50  <Stablean> <bon> but thanks still
20:01:44  <Stablean> <bon> and beside it'll be a bit easier having just one spot to drop off limited amount of engineering supplies to too just as well
20:01:50  <Stablean> <Muel> ok but when you will
20:01:52  <Stablean> <bon> (yeah ore > metal > engineering supplies > back to ore)
20:01:58  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#7)
20:02:16  <Stablean> <bon> 84 crates is kinda a bit large for one single mine
20:02:36  <Stablean> <Muel> Vinnie:  yes i know
20:02:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is that normal
20:02:58  <Stablean> <bon> nice one you found muel :)
20:03:08  <Stablean> <Benny> its the weird signal sprites that does it i guess vinnie
20:03:14  <Stablean> <Muel> i thing when it is one
20:03:21  <Stablean> <bon> benny its not weird when you look up "flashing orange" in different rail signal systems
20:03:23  <Stablean> <Muel> but TY :)
20:03:33  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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20:06:45  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice now theres a cheap little railcar for villages :)
20:07:23  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
20:08:20  <skyem123> ack!
20:08:26  <skyem123> i may need to start again
20:08:44  <Stablean> <bon> messed up something badly?
20:08:47  <Stablean> <Benny> pretty sure you do :P
20:09:07  <skyem123> terrible network
20:09:08  <skyem123> ugh
20:09:09  <Stablean> <bon> well your loan interest has been outpacing your train profits anyway :-s
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20:09:32  <skyem123> i going for few min
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20:09:43  <Stablean> <bon> ok :)
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20:19:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> mark   can  u restart  my company
20:19:56  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 4
20:19:56  <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted.
20:20:07  <Stablean> <Mark> there you go happy
20:20:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
20:23:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i  am going to try   won  mor  time  to doo a  net werk
20:23:29  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#4)
20:23:50  <Stablean> <Muel> yea :)
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20:25:10  <Stablean> <bon> ok that almost scared me for a moment...I was hoping that was NOT my glasswork
20:25:12  <Stablean> <bon> >_<
20:28:34  <skyem123> can you reset my company?
20:29:40  <Stablean> <Mark> whaaat
20:29:46  <Stablean> <Mark> i keep resetting companies
20:29:57  <Mark> whats the company number?
20:29:57  <skyem123> ukrs2 is hard. :-p
20:30:01  <Stablean> <bon> least its never me tho? :)
20:30:04  <skyem123> 2
20:30:09  <Mark> nah the tracks are too expensive
20:30:13  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 2
20:30:13  <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted.
20:30:20  <Stablean> <bon> then whats the point of playing 60+ years then?
20:30:26  <Stablean> <Benny> expanding
20:30:44  <Stablean> <bon> benny...and that means making profits first eh?
20:30:46  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#2)
20:30:59  <Stablean> <Muel> reset reset reset :D :D :D
20:31:29  <Stablean> <bon> let me buy your company them muel
20:31:51  <Stablean> <Muel> i dont buy company other player
20:31:57  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah you're doing it the fair way bon :P
20:32:11  <Stablean> <bon> thanks mark :)
20:32:21  <Stablean> <Mark> im a bit emberassed im cheating
20:32:21  <Stablean> <bon> if the others keep asking for resets I'll probably be #1 then
20:32:24  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:32:26  <Stablean> <Mark> at least ive got some trains now though
20:33:12  <Stablean> <bon> mm..can I just make one small suggestion mark?
20:33:22  <Stablean> <Mark> sure
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20:34:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> new map?
20:34:15  <Stablean> <bon> thats 2 less slope...train speed should be a bit higher
20:34:21  <Stablean> <Muel> why?
20:34:23  <Stablean> <bon> but thats up to you mark
20:34:23  <skyem123> when does the southern emu come out?
20:34:35  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah the tracks would cost me 10k though :P
20:34:41  <Stablean> <bon> skyem.. 1914 I think..or was that the pre-southern one? :-s
20:34:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> same map w/o silly rail costs
20:34:43  <Stablean> <bon> mark...heh :)
20:34:53  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...then are you going to reset game in <1960 or what?
20:35:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> w/o finescale rails to be exact
20:35:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> no only if people want that
20:35:21  <Stablean> <bon> meh..what is the obsession people have with earning 10M in only one year?
20:35:23  <skyem123> i could lower the cost of track in the next verison of my map
20:35:38  <Stablean> <Benny> id second that jam
20:35:40  <Stablean> <Muel> when you will we cant give reset
20:35:44  <Stablean> <Benny> but its too late for me to join today anyway
20:35:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's quite boring having to wait hours to build
20:35:56  <Stablean> <Benny> ^
20:36:03  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...then why am I still building and building each few minutes?
20:36:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> all that is changed is the rail type removed
20:36:18  <skyem123> the finescale rails are necacerry for 3rd rail
20:36:19  <happy_> jam   whonts   your  map  like
20:36:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> same map less those rails
20:36:42  <skyem123> i could lower costs
20:36:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> bon you have built hardly anything in an hour real time
20:37:02  <Stablean> <bon>'re not looking then
20:37:05  <Stablean> <Benny> if i wanted an economic challenge i'd play gamebiz tbh
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20:37:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> 3 tiny routes = nothing imo
20:37:30  <happy_> jam   can  i have  a look  at your  map
20:37:36  <Stablean> <Mark> it is boring
20:37:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's the same map :))))
20:37:45  <Stablean> <Mark> i dont really care, i'll be gone for the weekend anyway
20:37:49  <Stablean> <Mark> up to you then bon
20:37:56  <Stablean> <Benny> going anywhere exciting mark?
20:37:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> same map only no rail cost
20:38:01  <Stablean> <bon> meh..maybe I'll just quit for good because it seem like too many people just want lazy and crap ... I kinda have had enough on two maps before anyway
20:38:07  <Stablean> <bon> sorry
20:38:14  <Stablean> <Benny> whats with the negative attitude dude?
20:38:25  <happy_> ar  ok      go  for  it    jam
20:38:35  <skyem123> what would be a better track cost?
20:38:44  <skyem123> half or less
20:38:47  <Stablean> <bon> benny..whats negative about actually playing a real company?
20:38:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> those rails alter the track cost
20:39:10  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah just get rid of the grf
20:39:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> and make the signals invisible
20:39:18  <skyem123> uhhh
20:39:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> i removed the grf
20:39:23  <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game
20:39:26  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
20:39:32  <Stablean> <bon> hi liuk?
20:39:36  <skyem123> do 3rd rail trains still work?
20:39:41  <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators
20:39:49  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
20:39:53  <Mark> anyone want to take over my company?
20:40:00  <Stablean> *** Mark has joined company #3
20:40:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> they would use electrified rail
20:40:11  <Stablean> <Mark> pw is cleared
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20:40:32  <Stablean> <bon> mmm I could but its on wrong side etc tho :-s
20:40:38  <Stablean> <Muel> you give newgame ?
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20:41:29  <Jam35> !rcon reset_company 5
20:41:30  <Stablean> Jam35: Company deleted.
20:41:46  <Stablean> <Muel> Mark: ?
20:41:53  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
20:42:18  <Stablean> <Mark> yes?
20:42:28  <Stablean> <Muel> Mark:  give you newgame ? or no ?
20:42:30  <Stablean> <Mark> you guys decide if you want a new map
20:42:37  <Stablean> <Mark> jam will load it for you
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20:43:11  <happy_> redey
20:43:11  <Stablean> <Muel> Mark:  give you 2cctrains ? pls :)
20:43:27  <Mark> ukrs is fine
20:43:35  <Mark> would be the same map with regular rails
20:43:50  <skyem123> working on it
20:44:45  <skyem123> how does 150 per track sound?
20:45:49  <Jam35> read the chat
20:45:50  <skyem123> *159
20:45:56  <Mark> i think jam made a map
20:46:03  <Mark> you need to take the newgrf out
20:46:08  <skyem123> but... but...
20:46:21  <skyem123> :-(
20:46:33  <Stablean> <bon> heh silly hotel...I should build another tube route to empty it out
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20:50:45  <skyem123> map 1.6 is made
20:50:59  <Stablean> *** Muel has joined spectators
20:51:35  <Stablean> <Muel> give you 2 cc trains ?
20:51:46  <skyem123> erm...
20:51:55  <skyem123> monorail is too cheap...
20:52:11  <skyem123> (me testing 1.6)
20:53:56  <happy_> skyem123     can  i have  a look  at  your  new  map
20:54:19  <skyem123> almost donw
20:54:22  <skyem123> *done
20:56:50  <Stablean> <Muel> i waiting for newgame
20:57:37  <skyem123> hmm
20:57:42  <skyem123> purr is too cheap
20:57:50  <skyem123> should i remove it?
20:58:25  <planetmaker> what, waiting for new game? This game started only a few hours ago
20:58:47  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I have no clue planetmaker :->
20:59:16  <planetmaker> just because a map is different from usual doesn't mean it's scrapped on a fast track...
20:59:16  <skyem123> in my new map, should i remove purr?
20:59:48  <happy_> the    tran  line   cost  is  to hi   planetmaker
21:00:02  <Stablean> <bon> why is trains running?
21:00:09  <planetmaker> !revision
21:00:09  <Stablean> planetmaker: Game version is 1.3.2
21:00:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> the tran  cost is    ok bon
21:01:03  <Stablean> <bon> doesn't matter..trains are still running so why should that make any difference?
21:01:34  <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game
21:02:12  <Stablean> *** player joined the game
21:02:12  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
21:03:09  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4
21:03:31  <Stablean> *** player has changed his/her name to planetm4ker
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21:07:10  <skyem123> i'm not very good at making maps am i...
21:07:22  <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined company #3
21:07:38  <Stablean> <bon> actually you did a decent job on this one tbh (its not your fault that firs likes to "bunch" things at times anyway)
21:07:55  <happy_> skem123   u did  the  map  good
21:08:06  <planetmaker> FIRS is written such that industries can only cluster
21:08:10  <planetmaker> you have no other chance really
21:08:19  <planetmaker> at least primary ones like mines or farms
21:08:29  <skyem123> i mean the rail cost etc...
21:08:56  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker at least it does not literally bunch everything like eg the oil well isn't next to oil refinery :)
21:09:23  <planetmaker> no, I know :-P I wrote part of that code ;-)
21:09:31  <Stablean> <bon> ahhhh ;)
21:09:43  <planetmaker> at least some earlier version
21:09:57  <planetmaker> andy kept re-writing stuff ;-)
21:10:15  <Stablean> <bon> heh
21:10:21  <Stablean> <bon> does he drink a lot?
21:10:21  <Stablean> <bon> :)
21:10:46  <planetmaker> dunno. He's quick to try this approach and that :-)
21:10:53  <Stablean> <bon> heh...ok ;)
21:10:59  <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators
21:11:01  <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has started a new company (#5)
21:14:46  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> gah. Bridge length
21:14:53  <skyem123> is 16
21:14:56  <skyem123> *12
21:15:00  <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators
21:15:05  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
21:15:05  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'some British Railway company'  Year Founded: 1900  Money: 23822  Loan: 420000  Value: 1  (T:11, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
21:15:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(White) Company Name: 'Greater Anglia'  Year Founded: 1906  Money: 3883  Loan: 120000  Value: 1  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
21:15:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Pink) Company Name: 'Alcoholics United'  Year Founded: 1900  Money: 314533  Loan: 500000  Value: 1533  (T:6, R:15, P:0, S:0) unprotected
21:15:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Orange) Company Name: 'happy tran  sport Transport'  Year Founded: 1906  Money: 6124  Loan: 500000  Value: 1  (T:4, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
21:15:06  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Red) Company Name: 'planetm4ker Transport'  Year Founded: 1909  Money: 454226  Loan: 500000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
21:15:07  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have one more message
21:15:08  <planetmaker> !more
21:15:08  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:6(Green) Company Name: 'Muel Transport'  Year Founded: 1902  Money: 742316  Loan: 500000  Value: 578730  (T:11, R:6, P:0, S:0) protected
21:15:20  <planetmaker> !rcon reset_company 5
21:15:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: ‎*** Muel has joined company #6
21:15:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: Company deleted.
21:15:34  <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!
21:15:41  <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has started a new company (#5)
21:16:13  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker you always can go from Hedingham to Kinfingbridge
21:17:20  <Stablean> *** CGW joined the game
21:18:08  <Stablean> *** CGW has started a new company (#7)
21:21:01  <skyem123> i may die...
21:21:09  <skyem123> (in the game)
21:24:14  <Stablean> <bon> nice long string of stagecoaches there planetmaker :P
21:24:16  <Stablean> <bon> hehe
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21:25:20  <planetmaker> well. I need passengers :D
21:25:24  <Stablean> <bon> aye :)
21:25:36  <Stablean> <skyem123> i may need to join up with someone...
21:25:42  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but no-one tell me one cannot make a profit here
21:26:06  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker..yeah I'm making several profits atm...still have too much more to push :)
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21:29:16  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice..first bogie freight wagon just came out like now
21:30:28  <planetmaker> skyem123, I think it's a nice map with a decent challange
21:31:01  <skyem123> Thanks, it's too hard for me...
21:31:10  <planetmaker> not the usual 10 billion in 5 years map
21:31:24  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker..funny I was saying that kind of remark earlier on
21:31:44  <skyem123> can i join with someone?
21:32:40  <planetmaker> as there's not much money, that'd not be too much fun, I guess.
21:32:53  <planetmaker> My advice is to start with a single profitable line. Which one then can extend
21:33:20  <Stablean> <bon> or alternative option (not for everyone tho) is to make several small routes and eventually merge things over time
21:33:23  <skyem123> the problem is: where?
21:33:53  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#8)
21:34:01  <planetmaker> gruburg - plefingley
21:34:04  <planetmaker> for instance
21:34:29  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> the map is huge. Many opportunities.
21:34:51  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> don't terraform much. Just build track. Go around mountains rather than through
21:34:51  <Stablean> <bon> I haven't even "scratched the surface" as I guess someone may quote
21:35:02  <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game
21:35:11  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I never understood massive terraforming neither
21:36:09  <Stablean> <Mark> so we're keeping the map?
21:36:37  <skyem123> you either love it or hate it
21:36:41  <skyem123> :-p
21:36:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> will  i for  jam  was  going  to doo  a new  map
21:36:50  <planetmaker> yes, sure, why not keep it?
21:37:02  <Stablean> <Mark> its a bit slow
21:37:16  <Stablean> <Mark> easy to make money with some cheating though :P
21:37:24  <skyem123> people like planetmaker like it slow!
21:37:35  <Stablean> <bon> me its not slow..its real-profit ;)
21:38:05  <Stablean> <Mark> profit is hardly the most exciting part of the game though
21:38:08  <planetmaker> I anyway spend too much time watching stuff move. With slow games it doesn't matter ;-)
21:38:18  <Benny> what mark said
21:38:28  <Benny> i like building tracks, not watching numbers go up
21:38:38  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker yeah I'm away for a few hours...or asleep anyway...when I come back its always too much $ unless its in my own game (or exactly ones like THIS one)
21:38:53  <Stablean> <Mark> same for most i guess
21:39:31  <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving)
21:39:36  <Stablean> <Mark> imho its much more fun as a sandbox game
21:39:46  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_station_spread
21:39:46  <Stablean> planetmaker: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting.
21:39:53  <planetmaker> !rcon set station_spread
21:39:53  <Stablean> planetmaker: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '16' (min: 4, max: 64)
21:39:57  <skyem123> it's 16
21:40:07  <skyem123> beat me to it..
21:40:42  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> just found a typical Mark-I-cheat-everywhere-as-much-as-i-can
21:40:56  <Stablean> <Mark> i could have cheated way more
21:41:10  <Stablean> <Mark> at least i dont cheat in love
21:41:16  <Stablean> <Mark> :)
21:41:36  <Stablean> <Mark> skyem123: join my company if you like
21:41:57  <skyem123> what company is it?
21:42:04  <Stablean> <Mark> its making some decent money
21:42:08  <Stablean> <Mark> pink
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21:42:28  <Stablean> <Mark> go ahead build some stuff
21:43:06  <Stablean> <Mark> just build stuff
21:43:12  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4
21:48:31  <skyem123> LAG
21:52:41  <skyem123> .
21:57:11  <skyem123> the london underground is a bit... low profit
21:57:51  <Mark> better just add some stations to my network
21:57:56  <Stablean> <bon> skyem its really meant to auger in-town systems for most part .. although its still somewhat useable as "normal trains" as I am tho
21:58:14  <Mark> connect some more fruit plants and make an alcohol drop
21:58:14  <skyem123> me = fail
21:58:16  <Stablean> <bon> the two towns are too close together to really run normal rail trains anyway
22:01:48  <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!
22:02:23  <skyem123> how does station walking work?
22:02:39  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ctrl+click :-)
22:02:44  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and then select station to join
22:02:46  <Stablean> <Mark> when building a station
22:02:49  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we need not 'walk'
22:03:07  <Stablean> <Mark> walking was ages ago
22:03:25  <Stablean> <bon> agree planetmaker...I've only been guilt of it with towns ..but thats only because I can't place station underground like with either simutrans game or real train stations :)
22:04:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> how do i connect it to your rail without it breaking?
22:04:52  <Stablean> <Mark> well its not really that complicated
22:05:10  <Stablean> <bon> apparently now I seem to be making a bit more profits than I can bother building things...but meh :)
22:05:22  <Stablean> <bon> going off for a short time soon to eat supper tho
22:05:35  <skyem123> uhhh
22:05:50  <Stablean> <Mark> awww
22:05:57  <Stablean> <Mark> someone buy pms company :D
22:06:08  <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather let him do what he wishes
22:07:30  <Stablean> <Mark> pm youre going bankrupt
22:08:52  <Stablean> <bon> at least I envy planetmaker as his area has a fishing harbour...I got none :-s
22:09:28  <Stablean> <Mark> shame no ships are available
22:09:38  <Stablean> <bon> mark thats why they're all close to the shore
22:09:56  <Stablean> <Mark> i know
22:09:59  <Stablean> <bon> np :)
22:10:01  <Stablean> <Mark> ships would be good though
22:10:04  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
22:10:09  <Stablean> <bon> yeah agreed on that mark
22:10:11  <Stablean> <Mark> cheaper than trains
22:10:28  <skyem123> i thought there are ships...
22:10:31  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> quite
22:10:35  <Stablean> <bon> mark problem to differ people that really need ships vs people that abuse them for coastline routes instead of using trains
22:10:41  <Stablean> <Mark> theyre not available yet though
22:10:43  <Stablean> <bon> but ehh yeah :-s
22:10:45  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not this early
22:10:56  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> default starting year is 1950
22:11:10  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> don't expect anything to work without special newgrfs before 1930
22:11:21  <Stablean> <bon> wish I could give you a bit $ planetmaker but ah well :->
22:11:23  <Stablean> <Mark> FISH would have been nice
22:11:42  <Stablean> <bon> ok I need to afk now...see you later unless this isn't here
22:11:48  <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving)
22:12:09  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4
22:12:13  <Stablean> <Mark> planetm4ker: looks like your annual profit is around 1k
22:12:16  <Stablean> <Mark> nice job :D
22:12:22  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep :P
22:13:13  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> though will get better. wrong orders
22:13:39  <Stablean> <CGW> when do we get ships?
22:13:54  <Stablean> <Mark> around 1930 probably
22:14:08  <Stablean> <CGW> ok, cool
22:14:16  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> houses are also only available 1930 ;-)
22:14:35  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but OpenTTD is nice. And makes all houses which have the lowest introduction date, available at year 0
22:15:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  i need  muney  to ade  this  ore mine
22:15:55  <skyem123> uhm...
22:15:56  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
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22:15:58  <Stablean> <Mark> oh no
22:16:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
22:16:06  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> run!
22:16:09  <skyem123> my train may slow down the whole network
22:16:09  <Stablean> <Mark> this is a map for you V
22:16:14  * skyem123 hides
22:16:17  <Stablean> <Mark> slow start map
22:16:23  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
22:16:28  <Benny> inb4 cheats
22:16:33  <Stablean> <Mark> ive actually started cheating
22:16:37  <Stablean> <Mark> and even then its slow
22:16:38  <Benny> YES
22:16:45  <Stablean> <Mark> pm is going bankrupt :D
22:16:47  <Stablean> <V453000> why the fuck are the signals blurry
22:16:58  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah thats cause of the railtype
22:17:00  <Stablean> <V453000> im pretty sure I am sober
22:17:04  <Stablean> <Mark> the rails cost 1.2k
22:17:06  <Stablean> <V453000> I figured that
22:17:12  <Stablean> <V453000> nice
22:17:55  <Stablean> *** Niko joined the game
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22:18:02  <skyem123> my map is like marmite
22:18:10  <skyem123> you either love it or hate it
22:18:28  <planetmaker> I hate marmite :-P
22:18:50  <Stablean> <V453000> no nuts, bad map :>
22:18:50  <Stablean> <V453000> easy math
22:18:57  <Stablean> <Niko> hi folks
22:19:01  <skyem123> i clogged your network Mark
22:19:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
22:19:09  <Stablean> *** Niko has started a new company (#9)
22:19:21  <Stablean> <Mark> wtf :D
22:19:32  <Stablean> <V453000> Mark is so noob that his network clogs itself
22:19:38  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt need help
22:19:40  <Stablean> <Mark> not this time
22:19:42  <skyem123> that was me...
22:19:48  <Stablean> <Mark> that train is epic
22:19:54  <Stablean> <Mark> can you get rid of it?
22:19:56  <Stablean> <V453000> nice stats
22:19:59  <Stablean> <V453000> send it downhill
22:20:00  <skyem123> planet + hill == pain
22:20:05  <Stablean> <V453000> only option unless you want to die waiting
22:20:23  <Stablean> <V453000> having train with 122hp and 12kN TE is really cute
22:20:33  <Stablean> <Mark> its almost there
22:20:43  <Stablean> <Mark> also, you've sent those trains the wrong way
22:20:47  <Stablean> <Mark> fruit drop is the other way
22:20:51  <skyem123> never again...
22:21:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I hereby severely hate those signals
22:21:05  <Stablean> <V453000> gnight
22:21:11  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
22:21:11  <Stablean> <Mark> night
22:21:13  <skyem123> where is the fruit drop?
22:21:19  <Stablean> <Mark> east
22:21:45  <planetmaker> yeah, the signals are... bad
22:22:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:22:25  <Benny> at least they have the cutesie blinking PBS signal
22:22:57  <skyem123> oops
22:23:14  <skyem123> pop goes the train!
22:23:16  <V453000> I honestly dont even get how do you draw that blurry thing in pixel things
22:23:29  <V453000> assuming some dumb downscaling or such
22:23:31  <Stablean> <Mark> one pixel wide
22:24:01  <Stablean> <skyem123> where is the fruit drop?
22:24:09  <Stablean> <Mark> Marnwell West
22:24:19  <skyem123> ok
22:24:26  <Stablean> <Mark> not Marnhall Woods
22:25:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> i don't know what i'm doing do i?
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22:25:41  <Stablean> <Mark> you need to use the same loc
22:25:50  <skyem123> i did 0-6-0 goods
22:25:54  <Stablean> <Mark> and connect the station to the right direction
22:26:00  <Stablean> <Mark> the same one ive been using
22:26:04  <Stablean> <Mark> whatever its called
22:26:21  <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game
22:26:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> good evening
22:26:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
22:26:38  <Stablean> <Mark> evening
22:26:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or what ever time of day it is where ever you are :D
22:27:21  <skyem123> where do i connect my station to?
22:27:41  <Stablean> <Mark> ill show you
22:28:43  <skyem123> so i got them the wrong way around?
22:28:45  <Stablean> <Mark> im a bit slow on a touchpad
22:28:51  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah
22:29:36  <Stablean> <skyem123> i did the signals
22:29:41  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game
22:29:52  <Stablean> <Mark> yep
22:29:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh man, i see some trains struggling with the hills :D
22:29:58  <Stablean> <Mark> now put a train on it
22:30:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  wood
22:30:10  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy, hi all
22:30:12  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#10)
22:30:16  <skyem123> 0-6-0 goods?
22:30:16  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
22:30:34  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to SelfAwareLlama
22:30:36  <Stablean> <skyem123> we are too poor
22:30:40  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah but make some more alcohol trains first
22:30:56  <Stablean> <Mark> rails are expensive, add more trains first
22:31:29  <skyem123> fruit?
22:31:33  <Stablean> <Mark> alcohool
22:31:37  <Stablean> *** SelfAwareLlama has started a new company (#11)
22:31:42  <skyem123> from where to where?
22:31:49  <Stablean> <Mark> like the last two trains i made
22:31:59  <Stablean> <Mark> just clone at the depot near Marnwell Woods
22:32:03  <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#10)
22:32:07  <Stablean> <Mark> when you get the money
22:32:21  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Hey Djanxy, you're on.
22:32:31  <skyem123> Train 10?
22:32:41  <Stablean> <Mark> yes
22:32:49  <Stablean> <Mark> btw use ctrl+enter for team chat
22:32:59  <Stablean> <Mark> so not everybody has to read it
22:33:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he's not even talking via the game
22:33:49  <Stablean> *** abz has left the game (connection lost)
22:34:03  <Stablean> <Mark> im off anyway
22:34:07  <Stablean> <Mark> have a good night
22:34:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn
22:34:14  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> See ya Mark
22:34:15  <skyem123> argh!
22:34:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> night
22:34:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nn mark
22:34:28  <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
22:34:32  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Man, not been on this for ages.
22:34:54  <skyem123> this is a very hard to start map
22:37:22  <planetmaker> g'night
22:37:46  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> See ya
22:37:51  <skyem123> bye!
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22:42:00  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Hey
22:42:34  <skyem123> hello
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22:45:02  <Stablean> <bon> heh went a bit quicker than I thought
22:45:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ½
22:45:20  <Stablean> <bon> oh and also got a free mini-M&M package too....halloween apparently :)
22:45:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what did ?  and hi
22:45:34  <Stablean> <bon> oh hi djanxy.... was afk for supper
22:45:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah
22:45:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i think  i  give  up on this  map
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22:46:13  <Stablean> <bon> ughh why did N have to almost cut off my route -_-  oh well
22:46:19  <Stablean> <bon> still some space for bridges so mm its ok
22:46:25  <Stablean> <Niko> where
22:46:35  <Stablean> <bon> its ok..I can just bridge over :)
22:46:50  <Stablean> <Niko> I can also move my track
22:47:01  <Stablean> <bon> well you have water on both sides so better just leave it as it is
22:47:09  <Stablean> <Niko> ok
22:47:21  <Stablean> <bon> did you want double track in future tho? just so I know re bridge spacing
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22:47:32  <Stablean> <Niko> double would be nice
22:47:35  <Stablean> <bon> ok np
22:47:45  <Stablean> <Niko> thanks
22:48:25  <Stablean> <bon> btw nice route you picked and re not going straight up the steep hill too :)
22:48:39  <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> `
22:48:43  <Stablean> <Niko> I prepared for weak engines :)
22:48:49  <Stablean> <bon> although the sharp U turn could maybe be a slight issue with faster freights
22:49:00  <Stablean> <bon> niko...see my ore line...
22:49:08  <Stablean> <bon> its not straight due to the many slopes but ehh it works for now
22:49:10  <Stablean> <bon> :)
22:49:29  <Stablean> <Niko> I'll do that u-turn better once I earn some  money
22:49:47  <Stablean> <bon> yeah..for now most freight locos are slower than 90 so its not a big concern
22:49:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> probably also be a while before speed is an issue :D
22:50:01  <Stablean> <bon> I was saying ;)
22:50:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye :D
22:50:15  <Stablean> <bon> only the Mogul is anywhere faster than 90 :p
22:50:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> <- too slow
22:50:28  <Stablean> <bon> oh....electric freight...nice
22:52:11  <Stablean> <bon> might wait till 1930 before taking that loco wagons at same time to match :)
22:52:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> never played much with this train set
22:52:37  <Stablean> <bon> btw I don't know why I remember first looking this up online on a uk historic rail site but what I recall goes like this...
22:53:24  <Stablean> <bon> short circular coal route between coal pit and the harbour that shipped the coal away ... it was a very early electrification setup... and in trial the EF1 could actually brake a heavier train better than the steam loco (no surprise with regenerative especially)
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22:53:44  <Stablean> <bon> so thats why the EF1 is naturally listed for 'heavy freight' as its sorta more home on heavy shuttles
22:54:00  <Stablean> <bon> (till you get newer locos but ehh yeah)
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22:54:25  <Stablean> <bon> even the newest 0-8-0 Mineral is weaker than it noticeably
22:54:59  <Stablean> <bon> oh and yeah skyem...the first EMU is out if you didn't noticed it yet .. if you did sorry then ;)
22:55:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what's the numbers ?
22:55:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i mean, like 0-8-0
22:55:27  <Stablean> <bon> numbers? thats the wheel code system...
22:55:42  <Stablean> <Djanxy> mmkkk.. :D
22:55:44  <Stablean> <bon> so for example 2-6-0 is one pony axle (aka leading) .. three drive axles .. and no trailing axle
22:55:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha
22:56:01  <Stablean> <bon> or in the UIC system used in europe it would had been a 2'C instead (C=3 yeah)
22:56:23  <Stablean> <bon> and for a diesel/electric you have the like of eg B'B' or Bo-Bo etc
22:56:34  <Stablean> <bon> its a large system .. best to read it on wikipedia ;)
22:57:12  <Stablean> <bon> oh and for mallet/garratt the system is a bit longer but not too hard to understand nevertheless
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22:57:38  <Stablean> <bon> 0-6-0+0-6-0 is two separate set of three driving axles
22:57:49  <skyem123> how do you change the livery for a group of trains?
22:57:53  <Stablean> <bon> but UIC has a different system that can tell you whether its a garratt or a mallet .. different chassis anyway
22:58:08  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I think you only can use company colour per type of trains but I'm not sure
22:58:29  <skyem123> well, how do you do it pey type?
22:58:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheers bon - didnt understand most of what you said but im satisfied with the answer ;)
22:58:36  <Stablean> <bon> sec...
22:58:42  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy heh ok then
22:58:56  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but the axles make sense ;)
22:58:59  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..go to your company window (the menu with face icon on it yeah) ...
22:59:12  <skyem123> ah ha!
22:59:15  <Stablean> <bon> click on 'color scheme' (or what is it in your ottd langauge?)
22:59:29  <Stablean> <bon> and there you can choose a different color .. but its not as fine-tuned as one would want it to be tho ofc
22:59:36  <skyem123> bah!
22:59:38  <Stablean> <bon> eg all passengers trains have to be one colour
22:59:43  <skyem123> that needs to be changed!
22:59:46  <Stablean> <bon> I did warn you tho
23:00:00  <Stablean> <bon> at least the dual color is a nice extra from what the original used to be :P
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23:00:04  <skyem123> it is for emu
23:00:19  <Stablean> <bon> not all grfs can recognize the 2nd color tho mind you
23:00:30  <skyem123> UKRS2 Can
23:00:39  <Stablean> <bon> yeah but just wanted warn you in case you go playing with some other grfs ;)
23:00:50  <happy_> bb     all  have fun  on  this  map  see u all on the  new  map
23:01:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> bye happy
23:01:15  <skyem123> ...
23:01:16  <Stablean> <bon> oh hi wood-chopping-man
23:01:18  <Stablean> <bon> didn't see you at first :P
23:01:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon
23:01:45  <Stablean> <bon> how're you?
23:01:45  <skyem123> my map is too difficult for some people. eg: happy_
23:01:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i'm stealthy
23:01:51  <Stablean> <bon> ha :)
23:02:05  <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to build one major route finally...then to just keep talking a bit etc
23:02:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
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23:03:15  <Stablean> <bon> ah ... actually ..niko don't worry about bridges..I just realized I can simply follow the shore for a bit longer and basically sling around bridges-free :)
23:04:32  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13)
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23:04:49  <skyem123> ???
23:05:07  <Stablean> <bon> beats me too :-s
23:05:13  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#14)
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23:05:38  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Connor
23:05:42  <Stablean> <Connor> Hello! :)
23:05:48  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
23:05:59  <Stablean> <Connor> How do i start this lol?
23:06:09  <Stablean> *** Connor has started a new company (#15)
23:06:42  <skyem123> this is a very hard map
23:06:58  <Stablean> <bon> so....why am
23:07:00  <Stablean> <Connor> Im new to this game so.. :P
23:07:02  <Stablean> <bon> heh no comment anyway
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23:07:41  <Stablean> <Connor> How do i start or where do i start?
23:07:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn I missed the start
23:07:57  <skyem123> you need to play singleplayer to know the basics
23:07:58  <Stablean> <bon> generally try find an empty area etc you know?
23:07:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> did you check !rules
23:08:22  <Stablean> <Connor> yes i did
23:08:24  <skyem123>
23:08:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey, I have to leave in an hour, but in the meantime does anybody want help?
23:08:50  <Stablean> <Connor> me
23:09:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You haven't built anyting 0_o
23:09:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well that's why he wants help :)
23:09:40  <Stablean> <Connor> I know i dont know this game
23:09:51  <Stablean> <Connor> i justed watched YOGSCAST Sips play it lol :)
23:10:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'd like to help but you are on the wrong server man
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23:10:12  <skyem123> read the manuala at
23:10:26  <Stablean> <Connor> That made no sence? I would like to help you but your on the wrong server?
23:10:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> This place is hard to get good at because of all the newGRF's/mods
23:10:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> they don't play like the people here
23:10:37  <Stablean> <Connor> what server should i be on? All servers are the same lol
23:10:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It would be really hard to explain how to play here
23:11:02  <skyem123> play singleplayer
23:11:02  <Stablean> <bon> conner..your own map maybe?
23:11:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> try a city builder, they are fun and easy
23:11:08  <Stablean> <bon> heh ^
23:11:19  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The community here is
23:11:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could learn how to play here but it would be really hard to catch up
23:11:55  <Stablean> <Connor> i am not botherd about catching up i just wanna know the basics
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23:12:09  <Stablean> <bon> basics = single games first?
23:12:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well single player is definately the place to start
23:12:12  <skyem123> then play singleplayer
23:12:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> and the openttdcoop wiki
23:12:23  <Stablean> <Connor> I did that but there is no tutorial on there
23:12:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The wiki is full of save games with many examples
23:12:29  <Stablean> <bon> seem like we're repeating each others a lot here heh
23:12:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> there is a tutorial save game you can take a look at
23:12:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> seem like we're repeatch each others a lot here heh
23:12:50  <Stablean> <Connor> Oh ima check it out
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23:13:00  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher oh cut that out thompson!
23:13:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ;)
23:13:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
23:13:24  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher I always did find thompson+thomson silly.. I mean when one says something other always repeat same thing starting with "to be precise..."
23:13:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> too bad I typoed it
23:13:29  <Stablean> <bon> you know what I mean I hope? :)
23:13:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I should play on this server more
23:13:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah I know
23:13:56  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher and haddock's curses were always something
23:14:27  <Stablean> <bon> heh ;)
23:14:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :)
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23:14:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> unfortunately being Australian I tend to be online when everybody else isn't
23:14:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> G'day
23:14:54  <Stablean> <bon> and woodbutcher there's that thing where he really yells at someone only 1-2 inches from their ears too
23:15:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> G'DAY CUTNTS
23:15:04  <Stablean> <bon> poor person going deaf :)
23:15:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!!!!!
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23:16:13  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher or on a different subject.. how about Han Solo?
23:16:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he shot first?
23:16:51  <Stablean> <bon> "that looks like a pile of junk" <luke's remark about han's ship at first sight
23:17:01  <Stablean> <bon> but hey it managed to take off under fire right?
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23:17:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The millenium falcon is actually a really crappy ship
23:17:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Han made heaps of modifications though
23:17:53  <Stablean> <bon> well it was supposed to be a generic cargo carrier...but han naturally mashed it up into something else :)
23:18:20  <Stablean> <bon> at least if you want a nicer looking ship even if it looks a bit boat-y you just have to look at Lady Luck .. its more or less factory-built (although I dunno about the weaponery on it)
23:18:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and flew the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs
23:18:29  <Stablean> <bon> owned by Lando himself
23:18:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and don't get cocky kids
23:18:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> argh
23:18:48  <Stablean> <bon> haha..han said that :)
23:19:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> having a hard time figuring out the new industry types here
23:19:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> me too
23:19:11  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...can I make a suggestion...
23:19:16  <skyem123> It's FIRS
23:19:19  <Stablean> <bon> click on the one you're interested in.. click on 'industry chain'
23:19:23  <Stablean> <bon> that makes it too dumb easy
23:19:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I know, still confusing the fuck out of me
23:19:35  <Stablean> <bon> but there are some things that are still like original such as ore>steelmill
23:19:37  <Stablean> <bon> mm
23:19:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah Shnupz, it's really confusing the first few times
23:19:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> bloody FIRS, I could never remember what to do
23:19:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> still is a bit for me
23:19:55  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...for some strange reason I like firs... hate having to touch the original industry at all
23:19:58  <Stablean> <bon> I'm weird I guess
23:20:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> btw I haven't played since 1.1 came out
23:20:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but sometimes you are missing a key industry on an island
23:20:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> That's why I'm so confused :P
23:20:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i actually only started playing recently
23:20:26  <Stablean> <bon> :P back to you
23:20:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like Oh 5 ore mines....with no where to bring the ore to
23:20:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But you could fund a steel mill later
23:20:52  <Stablean> <bon> wheres the ore mines?
23:20:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, always missing that one industry that makes the chain work :D
23:20:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> just an example
23:21:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wow, I see all the ore mins
23:21:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bottom left corner?
23:21:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah
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23:21:53  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh? there was a steel mill near Meburg
23:22:03  <Stablean> <bon> must have gone due to no players around
23:22:05  <Stablean> <bon> :-(
23:22:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sometimes I feel like it's more fun to observe than play OTTD
23:22:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> can you access the fishing sites via trains?
23:23:03  <Stablean> <bon> yes
23:23:25  <Stablean> <bon> they have a parameter for maximum distance from shore so in this case they're set to always be accessible by land vehicles alone atm
23:23:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ahh gotcha
23:23:37  <Stablean> <bon> btw the catchment area is larger than the sign itself fyi
23:23:59  <skyem123> distance of 4
23:24:22  <skyem123> (fishing sites from shore)
23:24:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> For a while I was wondering how bon is doing the best out of everybody here
23:24:35  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :)
23:24:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> then I noticed how your stuff isn't just in the top left corner
23:24:39  <Stablean> <bon> the ore trains were my first route
23:24:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so are you guys gonna refit to carry the other supplies or make special trains for that?
23:25:04  <Stablean> <bon> nothing has changed ... I may upgrade the locos one day tho
23:25:08  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher it depends on network
23:25:26  <Stablean> <bon> some players like djanxy at least once managed to make a double-refit schedule where it carried goods one way and a different goods other way
23:25:36  <Stablean> <bon> you remember that one djanxy? you had "split" stations with depots in middle
23:25:46  <Stablean> <bon> it was for metal as I recall
23:26:05  <Stablean> <bon> (or at least some cargo that went both way)
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23:27:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bon, are you going to add Plefingley Ore Mine to your iron or chain?
23:27:21  <Stablean> <bon> niko so anyway I build my route a bit out of the way...hope it work well for you :)
23:27:44  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...maybe....not sure yet...with newer loco for the hills it seem plausible
23:27:46  <Stablean> <Niko> its okay, I saw it
23:27:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah bon, remember the refits :)
23:27:54  <Stablean> <bon> but its not on my priority list
23:28:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sorry, im semi afk here ;)
23:28:03  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy np
23:28:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok lets all talk about djanxy :)
23:28:33  <Stablean> <bon> rofl?
23:28:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> He seems like a boss
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23:28:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> a boss ?
23:29:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> A motherfuckin boss of the universe
23:29:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> have to say, you pretty much hit the nail on the head there
23:29:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or not, lol :D
23:30:08  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for like 30-40ish minutes but will finish this steelmill pickup when I'm back :->
23:30:11  <Stablean> <bon> have fun in the meanwhile :)
23:30:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ahahaha Bon theres a steel mill being built right next to your iron ore mine
23:30:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya btw
23:30:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh cool now we can all talk about bon :)
23:30:30  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher shaddaup? :P
23:30:37  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...meh its too close so I don't want it ;)
23:30:44  <Stablean> <bon> anyway afk now :P
23:30:51  <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving)
23:31:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm betting it's bon
23:31:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> He'd never leave us
23:31:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> mwahahaha
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23:32:06  <skyem123> it wasn't!
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23:34:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Skyem, did you start a second company?
23:34:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or did you jump ship and turn pink?
23:34:57  <skyem123> i jumped ship twice. 1st time to a new company 2nd to to pink
23:35:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> huh
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23:36:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
23:36:14  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #8
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23:36:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are you attempting to play 3 companies at once? :O
23:36:41  <skyem123> nope
23:36:46  <skyem123> please kill
23:36:49  <skyem123> is onw
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23:36:58  <skyem123> i wan't to get rid of it
23:37:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> buy some ships
23:37:09  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll try just that
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23:37:44  <skyem123> ships don't make you bankrupt in this map
23:37:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sell all vehicles
23:37:58  <skyem123> (i made this map)
23:38:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and leave the company
23:38:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no? Usually their running costs are crazy expensive
23:38:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i see
23:38:22  <skyem123> well, defualt values
23:38:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Don't have enough to destroy the stations
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23:39:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what if you try to raise land over water?
23:39:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks
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23:39:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually I could have tried to make that company work
23:39:46  <skyem123> lets hope it dies...
23:39:47  <skyem123> uhh
23:39:48  <skyem123> oops
23:39:51  <skyem123> ah well
23:39:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> aww well, I have to leave in 20 anyway
23:40:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> CGW... Why the massive tram line?
23:41:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yay! :)
23:41:06  <skyem123> are you connecting to my old tram line?
23:41:11  <skyem123> yay!
23:41:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah he's making a really long and innefficient tram line from slunnington
23:41:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> to franingbury
23:42:14  <skyem123> rails are crazy-expensive
23:42:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But trams are crazy slow
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23:43:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Somebody needs to setup PAX to Tunnford
23:43:34  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Make that little island town grow
23:44:12  <Stablean> <skyem123> i want to... but... uh...
23:44:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or Wrendington
23:44:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It actually has some space
23:44:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or Tunnville :P
23:45:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I'm off for now, cyas.  Have fun
23:45:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya
23:45:33  <skyem123> i made that island in the scenario editor :-p
23:45:35  <Stablean> <Niko> me too, cu all
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23:45:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ...You made this scenario?
23:46:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Oh wow, I just saw your name in the water
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23:51:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello again
23:53:30  <skyem123> the terrain was mostly natural. i edited it
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23:55:00  <skyem123> goodbye!
23:55:52  <Stablean> <skyem123> bye!
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