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00:05:29 <Stablean> *** leonkhv joined the game 00:08:00 <Stablean> *** iubin has joined spectators 00:08:00 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:08:28 <Stablean> *** iubin has left the game (leaving) 00:09:04 <Stablean> *** leonkhv has left the game (leaving) 00:12:43 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:13:21 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 00:22:01 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:22:03 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 00:22:23 <Stablean> <bon> meh long day but -_- 00:22:37 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #5 00:22:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:28:09 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.. 600+ bags of diamond...thats too much gold for a single bank to deal with or what? :P 00:40:19 <Stablean> <bon> heh 50000+ people...looks like it really could use something better than foot traffic 00:49:32 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 00:49:32 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:56:24 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:56:27 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 01:01:24 <happy_> hi sylf 01:02:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 01:02:28 <happy_> how things 01:02:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> ok 01:03:33 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:04:05 <skyem123> Hello! 01:04:11 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 01:04:12 <happy_> hi 01:05:07 <skyem123> iPhones and web irc is a tribal 01:05:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> Get limechat or something already... 01:05:35 <skyem123> *terrible combination 01:08:12 <happy_> i be back on the irc i just got swich to my phone web 01:08:43 *** happy_ has quit IRC 01:09:31 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:10:21 <happy_> hi all a gen 01:12:43 *** sturmi has quit IRC 01:15:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#13) 01:15:04 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 01:16:50 <happy_> sylf i dont think ther much room.lef on the map 01:18:45 <happy_> but fill free to john my company if u can not get start a net werk 01:19:25 <skyem123> My iPhone is acting up 01:24:33 *** happy__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:25:49 <skyem123> Ugh 01:26:17 <skyem123> *uhh 01:26:47 *** happy_ has quit IRC 01:26:55 <happy__> skyem123 the nuts tran set on your map looks beter now 01:27:33 <skyem123> Does it have all the trains? 01:27:45 <happy__> yes 01:28:35 <skyem123> Good. 01:29:19 <happy__> but its up to v if he likes it 01:30:16 <skyem123> he said it was an ok start and I fixed most of the problems 01:31:01 <happy__> yep 01:33:54 *** skyem123_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:34:19 *** skyem123 is now known as Guest3895 01:34:19 *** skyem123_ is now known as skyem123 01:34:38 <skyem123> Bah. 01:34:53 <skyem123> Bad wifi 01:38:32 *** skyem123_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:39:09 *** skyem123 is now known as Guest3897 01:39:09 *** skyem123_ is now known as skyem123 01:39:22 *** Guest3895 has quit IRC 01:40:45 <skyem123> And with that, I give into the bad wifi. I hope my map gets used. Goodbye! 01:41:15 <happy__> bb 01:41:32 <Stablean> *** kero joined the game 01:42:04 <happy__> hi kero 01:42:51 <Stablean> <kero> hi 01:42:58 *** Guest3897 has quit IRC 01:46:12 *** happy__ has quit IRC 01:47:09 <Stablean> *** kero has started a new company (#14) 01:47:37 <Stablean> <kero> mmh that was not intended :) 01:47:59 <Stablean> *** kero has joined spectators 01:48:16 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:48:47 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 01:51:01 <Stablean> *** kero has left the game (leaving) 02:24:53 *** happy_ has quit IRC 02:52:26 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:52:26 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:15:07 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has started a new company (#14) 03:15:07 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:15:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:15:09 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 03:38:07 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 03:41:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> JoeShmoe 03:41:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Good luck 03:41:39 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi 03:41:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello:) 03:42:00 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> first timer on the servers 03:42:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah 03:42:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> that explains it :) 03:42:54 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> so what am i doing wrong, should i have started with some airports for money? 03:43:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> nah 03:43:14 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> or joined another company 03:43:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was letting you know that there won't be much space to use for you 03:43:31 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah I see that 03:43:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because there is already so much developed 03:44:27 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I figured i'd get in here and play a bit just to see what a server game is like 03:44:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I started the same way :P 03:46:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry if I don't respond, I'm in a skype call 03:46:27 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob 03:50:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey, can I join your company and help out? 03:50:28 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Yup 03:50:44 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #14 03:51:28 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new with these newgrf's too 03:51:34 <Stablean> <Shnupz> same 03:51:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> most I haven't seen 03:51:58 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> weird rails and trains 03:52:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Holy shit track is expensive 03:52:12 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah that was my problem 03:52:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think it's best if we use plain ol electric rails for now 03:52:48 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok 03:52:55 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> is it cheaper 03:53:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 03:53:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> by a LOT 03:53:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit, I gtg 03:53:44 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Wow if only I knew that at the beginning 03:53:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya man, and good luck :) 03:53:47 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob 03:53:53 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (leaving) 03:57:34 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 03:57:34 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players) 07:14:50 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has left the game (processing map took too long) 07:14:50 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has left the game (connection lost) 07:14:54 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:36:27 <V453000> patience is virtue 07:52:29 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:52:29 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:52:32 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 08:45:22 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 08:45:59 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (leaving) 09:27:25 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 joined the game 09:33:54 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has joined company #14 09:38:10 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 09:39:50 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has left the game (leaving) 09:39:50 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:23:27 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:23:27 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:23:28 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 10:25:21 <Stablean> <bon> 909 bags of diamonds? 0_o 10:25:27 <Stablean> <bon> just how high do these things go to 10:32:56 <Stablean> <bon> think djanxy may like this tho...I think I've managed to put almost as much ships as I can bother fitting 10:33:03 <Stablean> <bon> maybe space for just one or two more but mmm heh 10:36:14 <Stablean> <bon> heh I see another company has lot of turtles too :) 10:42:32 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:44:17 <Stablean> <bon> well seem things are stabilized once again 10:44:27 <Stablean> <bon> few new trains tho so I'm up to 86 heh 10:48:09 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 10:48:30 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:49:13 <Stablean> <bon> ok off for a while again as usual 10:49:15 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 10:49:15 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:09:45 * skyem123 yawns 11:09:52 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:13:26 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:13:26 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:13:27 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 11:21:42 <skyem123> have you seen my map, V453000? 11:21:55 <V453000> hi, good timing I just came from lunch :) 11:21:57 <V453000> I did 11:22:21 <V453000> firstly, firs should always be set with maximal coastal distance of ~3-4 11:22:30 <V453000> so that industries dont spawn too far in the water 11:22:40 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 11:22:41 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:22:55 <V453000> invisible leading engine is 100% contraproductive with nuts 11:23:03 <skyem123> ok 11:23:34 <V453000> oh and a hint, when you already add opengfx+ landscape, it is a good idea to add American Road Replacement Set - it has a Total Bridge Renewal Set for it, too 11:23:39 <V453000> nicer (and unified) roads 11:23:47 <skyem123> hmmm... 11:23:52 <skyem123> i like uk roads 11:24:10 <V453000> those work better without opengfx+ landscape in that case 11:24:59 <V453000> and you dont have any roads in there 11:25:07 <skyem123> do i need to remake the map? 11:26:08 <V453000> well it will be more useful, mainly because making a floodable island is just pointless asking for griefing 11:26:22 <V453000> "easter eggs" are cute but not worth the effort 11:26:37 <skyem123> did you see the 'skyem123'? 11:26:47 <V453000> btw is the smoothness on smooth or very smooth? 11:27:04 <skyem123> very smooth 11:27:24 <V453000> myeah thats what I though 11:27:25 <V453000> t 11:27:29 <V453000> smooth is better really 11:27:38 <V453000> this just makes too long hills that arent quite useful 11:28:01 <V453000> oh, also why do you use opengfx trees when there are opengfx+ trees 11:28:22 <skyem123> i think it was a typo! 11:28:27 <V453000> :) 11:28:54 <V453000> I think that was more or less everything, but just ignore rivers :P 11:29:22 <skyem123> ok... 11:29:38 <skyem123> now to make my breakfast 11:29:54 <V453000> the invisible leading engine is the main part, that is absolute no go with nuts 11:30:00 <V453000> then firs marine coastal distance 11:30:12 *** happy_ has quit IRC 11:30:22 <V453000> after that, just a note - bridge lengths are generally to make it impossible to cross islands 11:30:30 <V453000> if your islands are far apart the setting can be higher 11:30:44 <V453000> and then the visual road/bridge/tree things I said 11:31:16 <V453000> Oh and very important - multiple industries per town: off 11:31:21 <V453000> always generate map with taht 11:32:09 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:32:14 <V453000> vehicle amounts are changeable in the game, but Road vehicles should not be allowed above 10-20 or definitely not from the start. Aircraft preferably 0 and ships up to 5 11:32:17 <V453000> trains can be 5000 11:32:26 <V453000> 500 can be limiting 11:32:57 <V453000> btw note that bridge length setting is the length of the bridge without bridgeheads 11:36:07 *** Mark has quit IRC 11:36:07 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 11:36:39 <skyem123> hmm... 11:37:08 <V453000> + smooth or rough :) but I said that already 11:37:15 <Mark> morning 11:37:22 <V453000> rough is best but hard as hell to get nice islands with 11:37:23 <V453000> hi Mark 11:39:46 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:39:46 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:39:47 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 11:41:27 <skyem123> ugh. 11:41:34 <V453000> drawing trains at work ^^ im such a criminal 11:41:42 <V453000> some problem skyem123 ? :) 11:41:43 <V453000> just ask 11:41:57 <skyem123> how do i transfer advanced settings from differant maps? 11:42:18 <V453000> you can probably somehow reload and save configs but I never tried that 11:42:51 <skyem123> how are openttd save files compressed? 11:43:02 <V453000> dont ask me 11:43:11 <V453000> Mark knows I heard 11:43:33 <Stablean> <Mark> :D 11:43:35 <Stablean> <Mark> not a clue 11:43:51 <V453000> damn, I wanted to make you feel useful and you miss out on the chance 11:44:09 <V453000> :> 11:44:49 <skyem123> well, i can open it with 7-zip but it olny has an uncompressed save 11:45:03 <V453000> ._. 11:45:20 <V453000> I Think if you open console and type something like saveconfig, it should save it 11:45:22 <skyem123> xz 11:45:27 <V453000> but I totally dont know how that works, never tried 11:45:30 <skyem123> xz compression 11:45:43 <skyem123> (yay 7-zip) 11:47:52 <skyem123> doesn't work 11:47:53 <skyem123> bah 11:48:21 <V453000> just always edit advanced settings when not in a save :) 11:48:24 <V453000> all maps will generate with those 11:48:24 <skyem123> openttd portable FTW! 11:50:38 <V453000> you mean openttd in a folder which includes cfg? :P 11:50:49 <skyem123> yes 11:50:53 <skyem123> isolated 11:51:00 <skyem123> from my main one 11:51:48 <skyem123> ugh 11:51:57 <skyem123> i will need to do everything again... 11:54:43 <V453000> well you can always overwrite with a config :P 11:54:53 <V453000> if you have the config with which you generated the map 11:55:13 <skyem123> i changed some stuff after... but still 11:55:19 <skyem123> that would help 11:55:22 <V453000> but I think it would be faster to just go through the settings again 11:55:37 <Stablean> <Mark> its just a few clicks really :P 11:55:54 <V453000> lazy people will stay silent :) 11:56:30 <Stablean> <Mark> my goods drop doesnt accept goods 11:56:33 <Stablean> <Mark> im such a noob 11:58:15 <V453000> I know right 11:58:19 <V453000> I would stop accepting your goods just as well 11:58:26 <V453000> anyway off for a trip 11:58:26 <V453000> bai 11:58:37 <Stablean> <Mark> enjoy your trip 11:58:39 <Stablean> <Mark> you hippie 11:58:41 <Stablean> <Mark> bye 11:59:38 <V453000> and I will get paid for it 11:59:39 <V453000> haha 11:59:47 <Stablean> <Mark> :) 11:59:55 <V453000> not like its much but .. :D 12:02:39 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators 12:02:39 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:05:15 <skyem123> newgrf settings == done! 12:08:07 <skyem123> i'm going to confuse all of you by making my road veicles drve on the left! muhahahaaha >:-) 12:08:35 <Mark> i dont think anyone would notice :P 12:08:50 <Mark> as long as trains drive on the right 12:08:57 <skyem123> erm... 12:09:05 <skyem123> muhahahahaha! 12:09:22 <V453000> no, dont make road vehicles go on the left 12:09:27 <skyem123> argh! 12:09:28 <V453000> I will let you remake the map in such a case :) 12:09:35 <skyem123> why? 12:09:35 <Mark> i thought you were tripping 12:09:42 <V453000> why yes 12:09:52 <V453000> its just annoying, no reason to have it left od swap it 12:10:03 <skyem123> meh 12:10:10 <V453000> im combatting the printing machine to spew out the battle plan Mark 12:11:24 <skyem123> what IS wrong with road veicles on the left? 12:11:59 <V453000> right is standard, period? 12:12:03 <V453000> it is simply confusing 12:12:10 <V453000> everybody adapts to right hand drive setting, done 12:12:27 <skyem123> (Unless you live in the UK) 12:12:32 <V453000> nobody cares 12:12:39 <V453000> majority of players uses right hand drive 12:12:50 <skyem123> aww 12:12:53 <skyem123> ah well 12:13:56 <V453000> the logic is simple, it is more convenient to let minority adapt Once, and then use right hand drive setting forever 12:14:16 <V453000> instead of either forcing majority to adapt forever, or even worse -swap the setting randomly with various games to force everyone adapt every time 12:14:18 <skyem123> ah well 12:14:37 <V453000> not ah well that is how its best for everyone :D 12:14:50 <skyem123> ah well 12:15:05 *** V453000 was kicked by V453000 (wibble) 12:15:14 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:15:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 12:15:16 <skyem123> uhhh 12:15:37 <skyem123> what just happened? 12:15:39 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 12:15:39 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 12:15:58 <V453000> trippin 12:16:28 * skyem123 is wondering if he should say "ah well" again 12:16:54 <skyem123> ah well 12:16:57 <skyem123> :-p 12:18:37 <skyem123> your guide is out of date V453000! 12:26:35 <skyem123> should i allow funding buildings? 12:27:18 <skyem123> hello? 12:27:20 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:27:24 <skyem123> anyone there? 12:32:38 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:32:43 <skyem123> hello! 12:32:47 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:33:05 <happy_> hi all 12:33:13 <Benny> hello 12:45:38 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 12:45:38 *** Ammler has quit IRC 12:45:38 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 12:45:38 *** happy_ has quit IRC 12:45:38 *** Sylf has quit IRC 12:45:38 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 12:57:02 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** resistance.oftc.net sets mode: +oovo KenjiE20 Sylf Sylf Ammler 12:57:02 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:57:02 *** resistance.oftc.net sets mode: +vov Ammler XeryusTC XeryusTC 12:57:48 <planetmaker> skyem123, funding buiildings? Nah, not needed. But not hurtful either 12:58:27 <skyem123> uhhh 12:58:38 <skyem123> the irc went odd 12:58:40 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 12:58:55 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:59:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 13:15:13 <skyem123> phew! 13:15:20 <skyem123> i have done the new map 13:17:33 <skyem123> skyem123's first map 2.0: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/map2.0.sav (TRS, UKRS2, MONOLEV) and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/map2.0_NUTS.sav (NUTS) 13:18:06 <skyem123> V453000, i have made my new map! 13:20:03 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:20:03 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:20:06 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 13:20:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 13:20:56 <skyem123> hello! 13:21:06 <happy_> hi 13:21:23 <skyem123> have you seen my new map? 13:21:40 <happy_> v whonts your new map like 13:22:10 <skyem123> new settings 13:22:25 <skyem123> no rivers etc... 13:25:20 <planetmaker> skyem123, yes, such guides occasionally need an update 13:25:43 <planetmaker> skyem123, as such I do believe that a map-making guide is IMHO better placed on our wiki. As it's much easier to maintain there 13:25:48 <planetmaker> Maybe you want to make a start? :-) 13:26:09 <skyem123> the guide was for openttd before difficulty was merged into the advanced settings 13:29:25 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 13:33:46 <skyem123> me make a start on what? 13:35:35 <skyem123> me make a start on what, planetmaker? 13:35:46 <planetmaker> on such wiki page :-) 13:36:00 <skyem123> erm 13:36:13 * skyem123 is nerveous 13:36:25 <Benny> we have one already, but its a bit outdates 13:36:32 <Benny> outdated* 13:37:05 <Benny> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation 13:37:19 <skyem123> don't you have 2? 13:38:28 <skyem123> and if you include V453000's guide, 3? 13:39:03 <Benny> wiki articles > blog posts 13:39:05 <Benny> but sure 13:39:32 <Benny> its a good guide, dont get me wrong. V did a very good job on that 13:39:38 <skyem123> is there sutch thing as a personal wiki page? 13:39:50 <planetmaker> yeah, just update the page which Benny linked 13:40:00 <Benny> no the whole point of a wiki is collaborative contribution skyem ;) 13:40:06 <planetmaker> yeah, it's an excellent guide. Just needs updating. And ^^ 13:40:19 <skyem123> meh 13:41:26 <planetmaker> having guides in too many places, one on each user page is not too helpful. Just one which is kept up2date by all is very helpful :-) 13:44:03 <skyem123> i made a small change 13:45:40 <planetmaker> :-) No need to be too shy. Wikis also have history. So text is never really lost, even if you totally re-edit the page 13:46:24 <planetmaker> and... looking at that page - its documentation with respect to the adv. settings, that's totally out of date, too 13:46:29 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 13:46:37 <happy_> hi wood 13:46:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy 13:46:50 <happy_> how things 13:46:50 <planetmaker> seems.... I created it in 2009 :D 13:47:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks, you? 13:47:14 <happy_> good 13:48:30 <planetmaker> meh. and there's the not better, but slightly more up2date version of http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Game_Creation 13:48:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back in a minte i just got try this game that i download for my latop 13:48:55 <Benny> also made in 2009! 13:49:03 <Benny> must've been an active year for the wiki 13:49:53 <skyem123> there needs to be a wysiwyg editor for the wiki 13:50:24 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 13:50:24 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:52:09 <Benny> im betting there are dozens out there considering how many people are involved with wikis these days 13:54:51 <skyem123> there are plugins 13:55:10 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 14:03:51 *** Benny has left #openttdcoop.stable 14:11:07 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 14:15:20 <V453000> uhmm skyem123 I forgot before, but why do you disable secondary industries can die, and primary industries can be born for FIRS? 14:15:37 <skyem123> defualt setting 14:15:47 <V453000> is that really default? o_O 14:15:50 <skyem123> yes 14:15:51 <V453000> I thought it wasnt 14:15:55 <V453000> well, change that then : 14:15:57 <V453000> :| 14:16:04 <skyem123> argh 14:16:19 <V453000> while at it, TTRS is nicer if you set "keep original houses: off" 14:16:33 <V453000> ttrs doesnt seem to be active though 14:17:38 <V453000> I dont see any TTRS building on the map :| 14:17:55 <skyem123> uhh 14:17:55 <V453000> but thats minor 14:18:02 <V453000> if you fix the industries, it should be good enough 14:18:34 <skyem123> set it to what? 14:18:51 <V453000> secondaries can die, primaries can spawn 14:19:17 <V453000> oh and station rating algorithm definitely isnt default on Favourable 14:19:27 <V453000> put that back to Grim and Mean :) 14:20:13 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:24:38 <skyem123> wait, what was it set to? 14:24:51 <skyem123> (all the bad settings) 14:25:29 <V453000> cant you see that in the save? :o 14:25:42 <skyem123> can primarys open? 14:25:42 <V453000> previously it was set that primaries cant spawn and secondaries cant die 14:25:45 <V453000> both of which are wtf 14:25:52 <V453000> they should? 14:26:00 <skyem123> where are the settings? 14:26:07 <V453000> firs parameters? 14:26:21 <skyem123> ? 14:26:34 <V453000> firs parameter settings? idk how to say that 14:26:40 <V453000> the newGRF? 14:26:41 <Benny> >secondaries cant die 14:26:42 <skyem123> i know 14:26:43 <Benny> jesus christ no 14:26:54 <skyem123> i fixed that. 14:27:03 <skyem123> what about primarys can't open 14:27:03 <V453000> in the 2.0 it is wrong 14:27:30 <skyem123> i can't see the setting! 14:27:58 <V453000> and you are in parameter settings for FIRS 14:28:03 <skyem123> yes 14:28:48 <skyem123> Economy: FIRS Economy 14:29:03 <skyem123> Allow secondary industrys to close: On 14:29:04 <V453000> and the two below it? 14:29:17 <V453000> ^ was :off 14:29:30 <skyem123> Prevent indistries from opening druing gameplay: Off 14:29:38 <V453000> was off, should be on 14:29:43 <skyem123> what? 14:29:44 <V453000> both of them 14:29:55 <skyem123> so no industrys will open? 14:30:08 <V453000> oh god I cant read anymore 14:30:12 <V453000> yeah this one should be off 14:31:29 <skyem123> ok then... 14:31:38 <V453000> last the station rating 14:32:34 <skyem123> yup 14:40:31 <skyem123> skyem123's map 2.0: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/map2.1sav (TRS, UKRS2, MONOLEV) and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/map2.1_NUTS.sav (NUTS) 14:41:53 <V453000> uhmmm 14:41:58 <V453000> you didnt recreate map when changing industries? 14:42:01 <V453000> thats not very wise 14:42:08 <skyem123> erm 14:43:14 <skyem123> will it be that bad? 14:43:22 <V453000> it can have various effects 14:43:26 <V453000> cant really expect anything 14:43:34 <V453000> changing industries is generally almost suicidal 14:44:14 <skyem123> depends on how the newGRF is coded? 14:44:19 *** happy_ has quit IRC 14:44:25 <V453000> not even sure about that 14:45:08 <skyem123> should i remake the map? 14:45:22 <V453000> would be suitable, I thought you would do that automatically :d 14:45:32 <skyem123> (my pc didn't explode!) 14:45:45 <V453000> no need to include the changelog signs, just recreate it, put there the few signs, and I will load it in the evening 14:45:46 <skyem123> ah well 14:46:29 <skyem123> (the change log sings help me remember what i did) 14:46:56 <V453000> we wont be changing anything else now :) 14:47:09 <skyem123> FOR COMPLEATENESS! 14:49:10 <V453000> well for completeness its jus annoying as the scenario editor signs cant be removed in the game :) 14:49:33 <skyem123> what IS wrong with them? 14:49:36 <V453000> anyway, off for now ... I will be around european evening 14:49:45 <V453000> they can be confusing for people? 14:50:13 <V453000> just put the latest changes in the file name or something, but putting it to unremovable signs is pain 14:50:35 <skyem123> can i save it as .scn and you can remove them? 14:50:56 <V453000> you can rename .sav to .scn to convert it 14:51:03 <V453000> but I wont remove them, I am not a slave 14:51:07 <Benny> just include a readme in a zip if you want to have a changelog 14:51:10 <skyem123> awww 14:51:35 <skyem123> can i have version number in it? 14:51:46 <V453000> omfg 14:51:56 <V453000> in file name e.g.? 14:52:13 <V453000> anyway I have to go 14:52:16 <V453000> later 14:52:25 <Benny> see you 14:53:40 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:55:04 <skyem123> Hello! 15:13:49 <skyem123> should i upload my map in a .zip? 15:14:57 <Benny> i'd say yes 15:16:30 <planetmaker> no. unzipped 15:16:36 <planetmaker> just the map 15:16:47 <planetmaker> without any download manager site which needs accessing 15:16:59 <planetmaker> zipping savegames is quite pointless. 15:17:15 <planetmaker> They *are* compressed 15:17:24 <planetmaker> re-compressing them saves absolutely no space 15:17:34 <skyem123> ok... 15:18:01 <planetmaker> and frankly, zip compression is worse than ours ;-) 15:18:21 <planetmaker> at least considering default parameters. xz is superior - and that's our default 15:19:32 <skyem123> i mean't to package both versions and a changelog together 15:20:23 <planetmaker> of a map which we should load here? 15:20:28 <skyem123> yes 15:20:39 <planetmaker> Let's put it that way: !getsave URL works with plain sav files 15:20:44 <skyem123> oh 15:20:48 <skyem123> ok 15:20:55 <planetmaker> I'm not thrilled by the need to ssh to the server, run an unzip, and then manually load it 15:21:02 <skyem123> ah 15:21:11 <planetmaker> i.e.: would not happen ;-) 15:21:36 <planetmaker> and things like dropbox should serve your need quite well 15:21:57 <planetmaker> and work for this also very well 15:22:07 <skyem123> i have dropbox 15:25:00 <planetmaker> anyway, g2g for a bit 15:25:11 <Benny> lol sshing into the server would take 30 seconds 15:25:21 <Benny> anyway i didnt know the save was to be used in an automated system 15:25:57 <Benny> no zip in that case of course 15:27:32 *** bon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:27:38 <bon> hi 15:28:13 <skyem123> skyem123's Map 2.5: (Changelog) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map2/CHANGELOG.txt, (UKRS2 Map) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map2/map2.5.sav, (NUTS Map) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map2/map2.5_nuts.sav 15:29:59 <bon> eh...what climate? ^_^ 15:30:09 <skyem123> temperate 15:30:20 *** happy_ has quit IRC 15:30:41 <bon> mm nice...can't look at savs here atm but temperate+firs sounds like fun to me anyway 15:31:22 <skyem123> would you prefer NUTS or ukrs2? 15:34:05 <bon> skyem...errr....one moment... 15:35:46 <bon> what year would you had started the game? 15:36:01 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:36:05 <skyem123> 1900 for ukrs2, 1920 for NUTS 15:36:17 <bon> 1900...mm give me a moment again if you don't mind :) 15:37:21 <skyem123> what's wrong? 15:38:33 <bon> well thinking about it after looking at a few random examples from ukrs2+addons...I would say that if you're using firs then ukrs2+addon could probably work just fine 15:38:48 <bon> its your call since you're the one doing the map naturally ;) 15:40:45 <bon> the only one nitpick I may want to mention is ensuring that 3rd rail exists during rail construction 15:41:12 <skyem123> it does 15:41:30 <skyem123> "finescale standard guage adds that" 15:41:38 <skyem123> "finescale standard guage" adds that 15:41:47 <bon> allright...I've kinda liked some of the 3rd electricification locomotives especially for early passengers so thats why I brought it up 15:42:11 <skyem123> london underground 15:42:15 <bon> well..I guess ukrs2/addon/finescale/firs sounds like a nice major change even if only for one map 15:42:36 <bon> skyem...heh ofc these tube trains are good for city services as they don't care for turning on a dime :) 15:42:54 <bon> I've sometimes "abused" them on town-to-town lines instead but mm its just a grf tho ;) 15:43:08 <skyem123> depends on weather V453000 chooses UKRS2 or NUTS 15:43:40 <bon> yeah 15:44:39 <bon> skyem but either way ukrs with firs seem reasonable..after all nothing like a 0-6-0 Goods (1873) hauling eight cars worth 80 tonnes of minerals 15:44:48 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:44:50 <bon> not too huge train capacity which sorta matches 15:44:54 <bon> but thats only my thought 15:45:44 <bon> lets see what he thinks. after all the map seem like due for a reset later if not tomorrow 15:46:34 <bon> skyem..my style is a bit different perhaps but I never could ever find ukrs useable with original industries as it seem like you had to run american-like heavy long trains just to barely keep up 15:46:47 <Benny> dont think i've ever played a coop-style game with steam before 15:47:10 <bon> benny well...you do have some electrics in the 1910's tho just as a footnote 15:47:38 <bon> but mm yeah uk diesels came in the 1950's like with most other countries 15:48:10 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:48:25 <Benny> yeah i know, i used to use UKRS lots when i played eyecandy/realistic games years ago 15:48:56 *** AnsonMobile has quit IRC 15:49:56 <bon> benny heh I will admit one of my favorite late passengers for ukrs would be C321(A)-express-express-C321(B) 'sets' 15:50:17 <bon> sometimes if its a very flat route with long runs between platforms I'll allow 5-car sets 15:50:34 <bon> usually one or two sets but I did have the rare three sets at times 15:51:48 <bon> I'm not sure how the real EMU's were made up in uk but mmm eh 15:53:33 <bon> benny how about the 2-6-4 Suburban? I sometimes just liked to run them in push-pull with two to four coaches just like how the paris commuter network used to around the same years :) 15:53:45 <Benny> its been ages so i cannot remember 15:53:55 <bon> heh np...I haven't touched it for some time either 15:54:21 <bon> benny which traingrf do you play with ourself these days? 15:54:25 <bon> yourself* 15:54:28 <bon> meh stupid y key 15:55:00 <Benny> i have barely touched openttd for a couple of years now so none 15:55:19 <Benny> when i was active i loved the ukrs set and that db set by michael blunck 15:55:24 <Benny> he's an amazing sprite artist 15:58:21 <bon> mm 15:58:29 <bon> I still like dbsetxl myself too indeed 16:03:57 <bon> oh and HEQS, can't go wrong with it :p 16:04:29 <Benny> oh yeah, i remember seeing andy start that project on tt-forums if im not mistaken 16:07:16 <Benny> wow it has grown into quite the collection of vehicles since then 16:08:31 <bon> benny well I usually skip most of HEQS tho..its really the trams that are my interest. but sometimes I do run the 'train' tractors tho. slow but ehh they will go about anywhere :) 16:08:58 <bon> skyem123 oh yeah what did you set rv limit to for the ukrs map? 16:08:59 <Benny> train tractors? 16:09:07 <skyem123> 20 16:09:22 <bon> benny sorry not sure what it was actually called now.. one tracked tractor hauling several wagons over dirt/pavement 16:09:25 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:09:25 <skyem123> that was the max that V453000 wanted 16:09:28 <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game 16:09:46 <bon> skyem123..hmm 20 sounds decent. using occassional bus to feed areas into tube system 16:10:09 <Benny> oh yes sorry, i was thinking train as in railroad vehicles 16:10:54 <skyem123> articulated veicles? 16:11:01 <skyem123> (bendy buses) 16:11:03 <skyem123> :-p 16:12:35 <bon> benny np... "road train" is a common term in australia and certain parts of north america 16:12:47 <bon> it really means a highway truck with 2+ trailers 16:16:20 <bon> skyem...yeah bendy = articulated ... I think 'bendy' seem to be a uk thing tho 16:19:33 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:19:34 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 16:19:54 <skyem123> Hello! 16:22:40 <bon> mm well skyem I have to go for a small 2hr-ish apt now...see what he thinks of your two firs maps allright? ;) 16:22:44 <bon> bye now 16:22:48 *** bon has left #openttdcoop.stable 16:27:27 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:27:27 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:27:28 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 16:27:33 <Mark> skyem123: maps looks good 16:27:42 <Mark> nuts is probably best with first 16:28:01 <skyem123> but most maps use NUTS 16:28:02 <Mark> if you do want to use ukrs, you'll probably want to turn off wagon speed limits 16:28:05 <Mark> they're annoying as hell 16:28:11 <skyem123> oh dear# 16:28:24 <Mark> yeah they do, because its probably the best trainset :P 16:28:24 <skyem123> do i need to update my map? 16:28:41 <Mark> if you want to use ukrs yes 16:28:53 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 16:28:53 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:28:56 <Mark> not sure if it can be changed through rcon 16:29:02 <Mark> !rcon set wagon_speed_limits 16:29:02 <Stablean> Mark: Current value for 'wagon_speed_limits' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1) 16:29:04 <skyem123> what is rcon? 16:29:07 <Mark> looks like it could 16:29:11 <Mark> remote console 16:29:25 <Mark> as in, change it while the game is running 16:29:35 <Mark> most advanced settings can be changed in a running game, some cant 16:30:27 <skyem123> erm... 16:30:43 <skyem123> should i update the map> 16:31:20 <skyem123> *? 16:35:01 <skyem123> sneaky update 16:36:22 <skyem123> (i overote the old file) 16:40:40 <skyem123> what do you think of my map? 16:40:56 <skyem123> as in the "hidden" thing 16:44:24 <Mark> what hidden thing 16:44:40 <skyem123> at the start of the map 16:47:36 <skyem123> in the water 16:50:41 <skyem123> anyway... 16:50:59 <skyem123> is 1024x1024 too large for a map? 16:53:22 <Benny> dont think so 16:54:28 <Benny> lots of people find 512 way too small so 1024 is just fine 16:55:44 <skyem123> when i create another map i will have it 1024x1024 16:55:48 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:55:50 <Stablean> *** Benny joined the game 16:55:51 <Taede> 512x512 or 512x1024 tend to be good for this server 16:55:53 <skyem123> MOAR space! 16:56:03 <Taede> 1024x1024 tends to be considered too large 16:56:11 <skyem123> aww 16:56:32 <Benny> oh this isnt a coop server 16:56:39 <Benny> wtf 16:57:27 <skyem123> not coop but still friendly! 16:58:39 <Benny> haha i have been out of the loop wayy too long 16:58:46 <Benny> checked the archives 16:58:54 <Benny> barely any coop games with anything bigger than 512x512 16:59:07 <Benny> so lots of people consider 256 too small, not 512. pardon my mistake 17:00:23 <Stablean> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 17:02:36 <Mark> skyem123: 1024^2 is too big 17:02:46 <skyem123> aww 17:02:46 <Mark> it's not needed and uses to much cpu 17:03:06 <Mark> on coop we never use bigger than 512*512 17:03:18 <Mark> even 512*1024 is too big for train heavy games 17:06:58 <skyem123> meh 17:08:24 <Benny> apparently its halloween today 17:08:37 <skyem123> it is! 17:08:43 <Benny> how fitting that i happen to be playing a horror game! 17:08:58 <skyem123> ... 17:09:03 <skyem123> wow 17:09:23 <Benny> wow? 17:09:48 <skyem123> don't worry! 17:09:58 <skyem123> i find that funny 17:12:11 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:12:11 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:12:13 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 17:52:16 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 17:52:19 <skyem123> hello! 17:52:22 <Stablean> <Mark> yo 17:53:26 <Stablean> <skyem123> i changed the wagon speed limit on my map 17:53:52 <Stablean> <skyem123> *disabled 17:54:53 <skyem123> to get it you need to redownload 17:55:10 <Stablean> <Mark> its fine with me 17:55:20 <Stablean> <Mark> not sure if we're ready for a new game 17:55:26 <Stablean> <Mark> you might want to have V have a look at it too 17:55:50 <skyem123> are there any other maps? 17:56:02 <Stablean> <Mark> dont think so 17:56:37 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:56:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 17:57:18 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:57:25 <skyem123> hello 17:57:28 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 17:57:46 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #4 18:01:04 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:01:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi etc 18:04:01 <Stablean> <skyem123> erk 18:04:27 <Stablean> <Mark> good spot for a crash 18:04:51 <skyem123> well, you seem to have jammed your network 18:04:55 <Stablean> <Mark> absolutely every train will be stopped soon 18:05:03 <Stablean> <Mark> oh it has already 18:05:39 <skyem123> Why did it crash? 18:06:01 <Stablean> <Mark> because it hit another train :P 18:06:09 <Benny> hahahaha 18:06:19 <skyem123> why did it hit another train? 18:06:37 <Stablean> <Mark> cause i was messing around with signals 18:06:47 <skyem123> will it happen again> 18:06:48 <skyem123> ? 18:06:52 <Stablean> <Mark> probably 18:06:56 <Benny> all too often 18:07:00 <skyem123> erm 18:11:11 <Stablean> <Mark> so are we ready for a new map? 18:11:18 <skyem123> i am 18:11:24 <Stablean> <Mark> i know you are :D 18:11:28 <skyem123> :-p 18:11:52 <Stablean> <Vinnie> what about happy transport ? 18:11:58 <Mark> happy_ 18:12:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> ot might all have been in vain 18:12:26 <Stablean> <Mark> all what 18:12:30 <happy_> hi mark 18:12:33 <Stablean> <Vinnie> all for nothing 18:12:41 <Stablean> <Mark> hi happy 18:12:43 <Stablean> <Mark> you want a new map? 18:12:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 18:13:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi alll 18:13:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey 18:13:33 <Stablean> <skyem123> h 18:13:33 <Stablean> <skyem123> e 18:13:35 <Stablean> <skyem123> l 18:13:37 <Stablean> <skyem123> l 18:13:37 <Stablean> <skyem123> o 18:14:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 18:14:39 <Stablean> <Vinnie> how is it with you? 18:14:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 18:15:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> mark u arsk me if i whont a new map 18:15:25 <Stablean> <Mark> yes 18:15:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am redey for a new map 18:15:51 <Stablean> <Mark> k lets do it then 18:16:02 <Stablean> <Mark> skyem123: did you want to do the ukrs or nuts? 18:16:29 <skyem123> ukrs 18:16:50 <skyem123> remember to redownload the fresh map (i updated it) 18:17:32 <Mark> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map2/map2.5.sav that one? 18:17:55 <skyem123> yes 18:18:08 <Mark> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map2/map2.5.sav 18:18:15 <Stablean> Mark: OK :-) 18:18:20 <Mark> !rcon ls 18:18:21 <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:18:21 <Stablean> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 18:18:21 <Stablean> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory) 18:18:21 <Stablean> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory) 18:18:21 <Stablean> Mark: 4) restart.sav 18:18:22 <Stablean> Mark: you have 37 more messages 18:18:26 <Mark> !rcon cd 3 18:18:27 <Mark> !rcon ls 18:18:28 <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:18:28 <Stablean> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 18:18:28 <Stablean> Mark: 2) map2.5.sav 18:18:28 <Stablean> Mark: 3) JStable281012.sav 18:18:28 <Stablean> Mark: 4) JSTABLE_281012.sav 18:18:28 <skyem123> dun dun dun dun dun! 18:18:30 <Stablean> Mark: you have 226 more messages 18:18:36 <Mark> !rcon load 2 18:19:09 <skyem123> is it still loading? 18:19:12 <Mark> yes 18:19:13 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:19:16 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:19:18 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:19:19 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 18:19:21 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:19:22 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#1) 18:19:24 <Stablean> <Mark> wrong map 18:19:25 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 18:19:25 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:19:29 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 18:19:31 <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game 18:19:34 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 18:19:34 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:19:36 <skyem123> oops! 18:19:44 <Mark> probably not your fault 18:19:53 <Vinnie> either that or server has missing grf's 18:20:08 <Mark> yea... how did that work again 18:20:14 <Mark> !content 18:20:14 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established 18:20:14 <Vinnie> !content 18:20:14 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 18:20:14 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Nothing to download 18:20:14 <Stablean> Vinnie: you must be channel op to use !content 18:20:15 <skyem123> that was awkward... 18:20:34 <Mark> !reset 18:20:37 <Mark> !reload 18:20:37 <Stablean> Mark: usage: !reload config|irc|lib|all 18:20:44 <Vinnie> restart 18:20:48 <Mark> !restart 18:20:50 <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:20:55 <skyem123> uhh 18:21:03 <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 18:21:03 <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.3.2. 18:21:07 <Stablean> Server has exited 18:21:07 *** Stablean has quit IRC 18:21:13 <Vinnie> then load map again via cd commands 18:21:24 <Mark> !rcon load 2 18:21:34 <Vinnie> wait for stablean to reconnect 18:21:48 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:21:48 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 18:21:48 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:21:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 18:21:49 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/servers-stable" 18:21:49 <Mark> yeah might need that :P 18:21:52 <Vinnie> and give a command line with lots of 000000000000 before you give command 18:21:53 <Mark> !rcon load 2 18:22:03 <Mark> what 18:22:25 <Vinnie> it should say !autopilot v450000000 is executed or something 18:23:21 <skyem123> hmm 18:24:10 <Vinnie> test 18:24:19 *** happy_ has left #openttdcoop.stable 18:24:23 <Mark> help 18:24:27 <Mark> someone? :D 18:24:34 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:24:38 <skyem123> read the wiki! 18:25:32 <Mark> !content 18:25:38 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established 18:25:38 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 18:25:38 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Nothing to download 18:25:43 <Mark> !rcon ls 18:25:53 <Stablean> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:25:53 <Stablean> Mark: 1) ai/ (Directory) 18:25:53 <Stablean> Mark: 2) autopilot/ (Directory) 18:25:53 <Stablean> Mark: 3) baseset/ (Directory) 18:25:53 <Stablean> Mark: 4) bin/ (Directory) 18:25:54 <Stablean> Mark: you have 19 more messages 18:27:00 <skyem123> maybe you should redownload the map. 18:27:27 <Taede> or cd to the savedir 18:27:34 <Benny> ^ 18:27:55 <skyem123> do both! 18:28:11 <Mark> so where is the save dir 18:28:17 <Taede> try !rcon cd save 18:28:22 <Taede> just like that 18:28:43 <Mark> !rcon cd save 18:28:43 <Stablean> Mark: save: No such file or directory. 18:28:45 <Vinnie> try !more 18:28:52 <Mark> !rcon cd uploads 18:28:52 <Stablean> Mark: say "<Vinnie> try !more" 18:28:52 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: <Vinnie> try !more 18:28:52 <Stablean> Mark: uploads: No such file or directory. 18:29:34 <Benny> just ssh into the thing or get kenji in here, jesus 18:29:46 <Taede> more empties when you try a new rcon command 18:30:17 <Mark> V453000, KenjiE20, planetmaker? 18:30:38 <Taede> sec 18:30:43 <Mark> i havent got a clue about ssh and such 18:30:59 <happy_> skyem123 up load the map a gen 18:31:10 <Mark> nah 18:31:17 <Benny> the map is already uploaded to the server 18:31:20 <skyem123> different file name? 18:31:25 <Mark> wont matter 18:31:25 <Benny> its just that noone knows how the irc bot works 18:31:36 <Taede> mark: rcon cd 2 18:31:38 *** Vinnie is now known as Vinnie_NL 18:31:47 <Taede> then rcon ls 18:31:53 <Vinnie_NL> test 18:31:57 <planetmaker> @op Taede 18:31:57 *** Webster sets mode: +o Taede 18:32:11 <planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P 18:32:19 <Mark> !rcon cd 2 18:32:19 <Stablean> Mark: say "<planetmaker> @op Taede " 18:32:19 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: <planetmaker> @op Taede 18:32:19 <Stablean> Mark: say "<planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P" 18:32:19 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: <planetmaker> that guy knows his stuff :-P 18:32:19 <Stablean> Mark: 2: No such file or directory. 18:32:24 <Mark> yeah that works great 18:32:24 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:32:24 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Mark> yeah that works great" 18:32:24 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Stablean: <Mark> yeah that works great 18:32:24 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:32:33 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:32:33 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:32:37 <Taede> !rcon cd 0 18:32:50 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:32:50 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:32:50 <Stablean> Taede: 1) ai/ (Directory) 18:32:50 <Stablean> Taede: 2) baseset/ (Directory) 18:32:50 <Stablean> Taede: 3) data/ (Directory) 18:32:50 <Stablean> Taede: 4) game/ (Directory) 18:32:52 <Stablean> Taede: you have 2 more messages 18:32:52 <Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines 18:32:54 <Taede> !rcon pwd 18:32:54 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines" 18:32:54 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> it looks bugged, usually gives 4 lines 18:32:54 <Stablean> Taede: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/bin/ 18:33:10 <Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir 18:33:20 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:33:20 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir" 18:33:20 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Stablean: <Benny> Vinnie_NL: empty dir 18:33:20 <Stablean> Taede: *** Game paused (connecting clients) 18:33:20 <Stablean> Taede: *** Dobi has joined the game (Client #15) 18:33:20 <Stablean> Taede: *** Dobi has started a new company (#1) 18:33:22 <Stablean> Taede: you have 8 more messages 18:33:25 <Taede> !more 18:33:25 <Stablean> Taede: *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 18:33:25 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:33:25 <Stablean> Taede: 1) ai/ (Directory) 18:33:26 <Stablean> Taede: 2) baseset/ (Directory) 18:33:26 <Stablean> Taede: 3) data/ (Directory) 18:33:27 <Taede> !more 18:33:28 <Stablean> Taede: you have 3 more messages 18:33:28 <Stablean> Taede: 4) game/ (Directory) 18:33:30 <Stablean> Taede: 5) lang/ (Directory) 18:33:30 <Stablean> Taede: 6) scripts/ (Directory) 18:33:48 <Taede> !rcon cd 0 18:33:53 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:33:53 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:33:53 <Stablean> Taede: 1) autopilot/ (Directory) 18:33:53 <Stablean> Taede: 2) bin/ (Directory) 18:33:53 <Stablean> Taede: 3) bundle/ (Directory) 18:33:53 <Stablean> Taede: 4) docs/ (Directory) 18:33:54 <Stablean> Taede: you have 7 more messages 18:33:57 <Taede> !rcon cd 1 18:33:57 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Mark: no point building anything people 18:33:59 <Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location 18:34:16 <Taede> i know where it saves to, just not used to navigating there via rcon 18:34:23 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:34:23 <Stablean> Taede: *** trainopolis has left the game (leaving) 18:34:23 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location" 18:34:23 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> do the !upload command again it gives a save location 18:34:23 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Mark: this map will be restarted soon 18:34:23 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Taede> i know where it saves to, just not used to navigating there via rcon" 18:34:24 <Stablean> Taede: you have 25 more messages 18:34:29 <Taede> !cd save 18:34:33 <Taede> !rcon cd save 18:34:35 <Mark> looks like an ap issue 18:34:38 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: say "<Mark> looks like an ap issue" 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: [All] Stablean: <Mark> looks like an ap issue 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: 1) archive/ (Directory) 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: 2) autosave/ (Directory) 18:34:38 <Stablean> Taede: you have 39 more messages 18:34:42 <Taede> !more 18:34:42 <Stablean> Taede: 3) uploads/ (Directory) 18:34:42 <Stablean> Taede: 4) restart.sav 18:34:42 <Stablean> Taede: 5) usual_madness.sav 18:34:42 <Stablean> Taede: 6) preboot20130814.sav 18:34:42 <Stablean> Taede: 7) StableArcS18continue.sav 18:34:44 <Stablean> Taede: you have 34 more messages 18:34:46 <Taede> !rcon cd 3 18:34:48 <Taede> !rcon ls 18:34:49 <Stablean> Taede: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:34:49 <Stablean> Taede: 1) archive/ (Directory) 18:34:49 <Stablean> Taede: 2) map2.5.sav 18:34:49 <Stablean> Taede: 3) JStable281012.sav 18:34:49 <Stablean> Taede: 4) JSTABLE_281012.sav 18:34:50 <Stablean> Taede: you have 226 more messages 18:35:03 <skyem123> HOLY MAPS! 18:35:03 <Taede> is #2 the one you want to load? 18:35:11 <skyem123> yes 18:35:28 <Mark> !content 18:35:28 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Connection established 18:35:28 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Downloading 8 file(s) (453961 bytes) 18:35:28 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2904 18:35:28 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2924 18:35:28 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2905 18:35:30 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2907 18:35:31 <Mark> wait a second 18:35:33 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2917 18:35:34 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2925 18:35:34 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2926 18:35:34 <Taede> k 18:35:35 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] Completed download of 2916 18:35:35 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] All 8 downloaded 18:35:36 <Stablean> Mark: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded) 18:35:49 <Mark> !rcon load 2 18:36:14 <Mark> !rescan newgrf 18:36:16 <Vinnie_NL> need a restart 18:36:23 <Mark> !restart 18:36:23 <Vinnie_NL> it says in last save 18:36:24 <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:36:26 <Vinnie_NL> line 18:36:37 <skyem123> WE ALL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING! 18:36:59 <Vinnie_NL> out of the 5 times i did this i failed 4 18:37:01 <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 18:37:10 <Vinnie_NL> and all are over a year ago 18:37:12 <skyem123> typo! 18:37:23 <Mark> a failed about 190/200 times i think 18:37:31 <Mark> over the last 7 years 18:38:11 <skyem123> *191/201 18:38:13 <skyem123> notw 18:38:16 <skyem123> *now 18:38:24 <Vinnie_NL> its bugged it isnt closing 18:38:35 <Mark> !restart 18:38:36 <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:41:03 <planetmaker> great 18:42:30 <Benny> just do it manually, jesus 18:43:23 <Mark> i havent got a clue how 18:43:28 <happy_> mark doo a test map and see if that load ferst 18:43:37 <Mark> last try 18:43:39 <Mark> !rcon ls 18:43:39 <Stablean> Mark: "<Vinnie_NL> it says in last save" 18:43:39 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:43:39 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: <Vinnie_NL> it says in last save 18:43:39 <Stablean> Mark: *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 18:43:39 <Stablean> Mark: say "<Vinnie_NL> line" 18:43:40 <Stablean> Mark: you have 273 more messages 18:43:44 <Mark> ... 18:43:47 <Mark> !rcon load 2 18:43:47 <Stablean> Mark: say "<Mark> ..." 18:43:47 <Stablean> Mark: [All] Stablean: <Mark> ... 18:44:00 <Benny> !more 18:44:01 <Stablean> Benny: you have no more messages 18:44:13 <skyem123> is there a way to force a restart? 18:44:35 <Benny> several 18:44:43 *** Stablean has quit IRC 18:45:03 <skyem123> yey 18:45:49 <planetmaker> so. what's the filename? 18:46:10 <planetmaker> Benny, and you're very smart, are you? 18:46:29 <Benny> uh? 18:46:36 <skyem123> the file is called map2.5.sav 18:47:16 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:47:16 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 18:47:16 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:47:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 18:47:16 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/servers-stable" 18:47:28 <planetmaker> there we go 18:47:52 <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-) 18:48:10 <Mark> cheers pm :) 18:48:14 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:48:17 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 18:48:30 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:48:33 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 18:48:36 <Stablean> <Mark> and its the right map too 18:48:38 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#2) 18:48:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:48:41 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 18:48:44 <Stablean> <skyem123> yey! 18:48:54 <planetmaker> tyvm, skyem123 for the map 18:49:00 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 18:49:15 <Stablean> *** Mark has started a new company (#3) 18:49:23 <Stablean> <bon> really funny timing there...I just checked in for a moment..was offline so I thought ehhh...but thne it appeared online and so here I am too 18:49:27 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 18:49:27 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:49:39 <Stablean> <bon> mmm this map looks more interesting 18:50:17 <Stablean> <skyem123> where to build... 18:50:40 <Stablean> <bon> heh I'm trying to decide which island I want to try lay on :) 18:50:50 <Stablean> <bon> something not too tiny ofc 18:51:15 <skyem123> see the skyem123 in the sea? 18:51:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> 90 degree turns are on 18:51:46 <skyem123> oops 18:51:48 <planetmaker> !setdef 18:51:49 <Stablean> *** planetmaker has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 18:51:54 <Stablean> <bon> mm no..where skyem? 18:52:04 <skyem123> at start 18:52:13 <skyem123> where the text is 18:53:26 <skyem123> "skyem123" is writtern 18:53:45 <Stablean> <bon> sorry but I don't see that 18:53:56 <Stablean> <bon> unless you placed it somewhere else (since signlist doesn't show them) 18:54:15 <skyem123> it is made of water 18:54:54 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 18:55:23 <Jam35> !auto 18:55:23 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has enabled autopause mode. 18:55:25 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 18:55:38 <Stablean> *** Benny joined the game 18:55:42 <Stablean> <bon> hi benny 18:55:49 <Stablean> <bon> just about to start myself :) 18:55:50 <Stablean> <Benny> hello 18:56:08 <Stablean> <Benny> i can see it skyem 18:56:08 <Stablean> <Benny> clever 18:57:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam u going to start a compan 18:57:45 <Stablean> *** bon has started a new company (#1) 18:58:01 <Stablean> <Mark> nice signals 18:58:12 <Stablean> <Mark> shame you cant see them 18:58:14 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.. ukrs2 buy list looks different now 18:58:28 <Stablean> <Benny> haha those signals are great 18:58:38 <Stablean> <Mark> they're hardly visible 18:59:08 <Stablean> <Benny> signals seen from the back dont seem to show red/green at all 18:59:11 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#4) 18:59:31 <Stablean> <Mark> fuck this 18:59:41 <Stablean> <Mark> dont even have enough money to start 18:59:43 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators 18:59:48 <Mark> !rcon reset_company 3 18:59:49 <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted. 19:00:01 <Stablean> *** Mark has started a new company (#3) 19:00:21 <Stablean> <Benny> oh we have basecosts 19:00:35 <Stablean> <Mark> why... 19:00:54 <skyem123> i didn't raise the price of the trains... 19:00:57 <Stablean> <Mark> nothing's changed though 19:01:03 <Stablean> <Benny> oh this is a new version 19:01:09 <Stablean> <Mark> just TF 19:01:15 <Stablean> <Benny> the old one raised all costs by default 19:01:15 <Stablean> <Mark> guess im just stupid 19:01:42 <Stablean> <Benny> but you barely built anything 19:01:46 <Stablean> <Benny> this is odd 19:02:56 <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure...I'm having lot of money left for a train yet 19:03:30 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#5) 19:04:01 <skyem123> in my next map, do i need to lower the costs? 19:04:06 <Stablean> <Benny> maybe this is just on a higher difficulty or something 19:04:07 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:04:11 <Stablean> <bon> looks fine to me skyem 19:04:21 <Stablean> <Mark> its playable 19:04:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe the rail type modifies the costs 19:04:36 <Stablean> <bon> mark..yeah I still have too much $ left :) 19:04:42 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#6) 19:04:47 <Stablean> <Mark> give me some then :P 19:04:53 <Stablean> <Mark> this is going to take forever 19:04:55 <Stablean> <bon> can't...not loanfree sorry :P 19:05:09 <Stablean> <bon> "forever"? seriously..I could fund 4+ trains now and thats too easy :p 19:05:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> maglev is 20x normal rail 19:05:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> and that is 10x universal 19:05:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> must be the track set 19:05:51 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:06:04 <Stablean> <Benny> bon: with the money you spent building that i could have built a double track from one side of the map to the other in vanilla openttd 19:06:18 <Stablean> <bon> benny...then? 19:06:22 <skyem123> yeah... adjust base costs... 19:06:30 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..you keep forgetting one thing... 19:06:37 <skyem123> what? 19:06:42 <Stablean> <bon> this isn't supposed to be a finish-in-5-minute game jeeze :p 19:06:49 <Stablean> <bon> if I can run a few trains the first few minutes then its just fine :) 19:07:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> put baseset costs before the rail type might help 19:07:14 <Stablean> <Mark> rails are epensive 19:07:18 <Stablean> <Benny> it is playable indeed, i was just puzzled 19:07:30 <Stablean> <bon> mark...then why aren't you looking at the profit? 19:07:45 <skyem123> doesn't the last newGRF in the list override ones before it? 19:08:05 <Stablean> <Mark> no 19:08:53 <skyem123> what is the invisible leading engine for? 19:08:58 <Stablean> <Benny> eyecandy 19:09:10 <Stablean> <Benny> having cars sitting in sidings without an engine in front 19:09:15 <skyem123> oh 19:09:41 <skyem123> cars that are getting shunted? 19:09:45 <skyem123> wow 19:09:47 <Stablean> <bon> heh...call me sBRc if you want ... me being a bit silly with company name :) 19:09:53 <Stablean> <bon> I'm not BR but thinking I am ;) 19:10:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> might be a nice way of upgrading to 2x engines later on 19:10:42 <skyem123> slow start 19:11:00 <Stablean> <bon> jam35...or replacing doublehead with single too? 19:11:08 <Stablean> <bon> i may have to try that in a few hours with newer loco 19:12:39 <skyem123> look at my company 19:12:57 <Stablean> <bon> heh nice :) 19:13:23 <Stablean> <bon> I picked a bit of a hilly line but ehh thats ok 19:13:29 <Stablean> <bon> could use metals anyway 19:13:35 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#5) 19:13:48 <Stablean> <bon> hopefully slow expand further upward 19:14:03 <Stablean> <Mark> that train might make you 0 skyem123 19:14:27 <skyem123> what do you mean? 19:14:31 <Stablean> <bon> well my three are making about a thousand pounds each and its not even mid-year yet 19:14:37 <Stablean> <Mark> hehe not even 19:14:37 <Stablean> <Mark> 590 19:15:10 <Stablean> *** Kelvin has started a new company (#6) 19:15:13 <Stablean> *** Kelvin joined the game 19:15:32 <skyem123> heh... 19:15:37 <skyem123> my engine is shunted 19:15:48 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Irules 19:15:54 <Stablean> <Kelvin> o 19:15:54 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Sorry 19:16:02 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Is there auto clear on this server? 19:16:10 <skyem123> what does that mean? 19:16:12 <Stablean> <bon> only if its an empty company with no trains 19:16:14 <Stablean> <bon> or went deep into debt 19:16:17 <planetmaker> thereis 19:17:03 <Stablean> <Kelvin> So your account will stay with trains and other stuff no matter what or is there a time limit? 19:17:13 <Stablean> <bon> yeah thats pretty much it kelvin 19:17:16 <Stablean> <Mark> it will 19:18:19 <Stablean> *** Kelvin has left the game (leaving) 19:22:47 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:22:57 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 19:22:59 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 19:23:01 <Stablean> <Mark> hi 19:23:04 <Stablean> <bon> hi muel again :) 19:23:58 <Stablean> <bon> oh touche....some towns need gasoline heh 19:24:00 <Stablean> <Muel> no firs :( 19:24:08 <skyem123> there is FIRS! 19:24:11 <Stablean> <bon> I like it..its a better output match for ukrs tbh 19:24:13 <Stablean> <bon> :) 19:24:27 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...like I said heh ^^ 19:26:34 <Stablean> *** King Peky joined the game 19:26:35 <Stablean> <King Peky> Hello 19:26:37 <Stablean> <bon> hi 19:26:39 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 19:26:45 <Stablean> <Mark> yo 19:30:31 <Stablean> *** Muel has started a new company (#6) 19:33:37 <Stablean> *** Kelvin has started a new company (#7) 19:33:39 <Stablean> *** Kelvin joined the game 19:37:26 <skyem123> VERY hard to start 19:37:34 <Stablean> <Benny> mark found a way to cheat the system ;) 19:37:34 <Stablean> <Muel> yes i see 19:37:41 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Hmm 19:37:48 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...you think so? ^_^ 19:38:08 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah i cant win otherwise :D 19:38:16 <skyem123> HOW? 19:38:20 <Stablean> <bon> mark...you want win in 1 year? 19:38:28 <Stablean> <Benny> look at his road vehicles skyem 19:38:32 <Stablean> <Benny> abusing station walking 19:38:36 <Stablean> <Benny> its brilliant 19:38:38 <Stablean> <Mark> sssssh 19:38:44 <Stablean> <Benny> hahaha 19:39:04 <Stablean> <Benny> im actually impressed 19:39:07 <Stablean> <bon> thats one....cruel abuse ;) 19:39:17 <Stablean> <Mark> its an ancient cheat 19:39:21 <Stablean> <bon> not what station outreach was meant for 19:39:27 <Stablean> <Mark> got me banned from some servers like 5 years ago 19:39:33 <Stablean> <Benny> lol 19:39:37 <skyem123> woah 19:39:45 <Stablean> <Kelvin> lol 19:39:55 <Stablean> <Mark> with station spread 64 buses might make 4k a trip 19:40:06 <Stablean> <Mark> you can use it for transfering and make much more 19:40:24 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Wait whats is the goal for this server? 19:40:26 <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather stick to real station catchment useages thank you 19:40:30 <skyem123> build 19:40:33 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Im new so I don't really know 19:40:35 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah you should :D 19:40:35 <Stablean> <Benny> Kelvin: build and have fun? 19:40:41 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Cool thanks 19:40:42 <skyem123> untill you get board 19:40:46 <Stablean> <Mark> ill reset my company in a bit anyway 19:40:50 <Stablean> <Kelvin> Are planes activated on this server? 19:40:54 <skyem123> yup 19:40:58 <skyem123> nope 19:41:00 <skyem123> nope 19:41:01 <skyem123> forgot 19:41:12 <Stablean> <Kelvin> ok 19:42:54 <Stablean> *** Kelvin has left the game (leaving) 19:45:00 <skyem123> hmm... 19:45:33 <skyem123> when do 3rd rail trains come.... 19:45:41 <Stablean> <bon> 1914+ as I recall 19:45:47 <Stablean> <bon> but non-passenger ones is a bit later tho 19:46:02 <skyem123> good 19:46:08 <skyem123> to know 19:46:11 <Stablean> <bon> yeah :) 19:46:18 <Stablean> <bon> skyem one tidbit I do know tho... 19:46:35 <skyem123> what? 19:47:06 <Stablean> <bon> the 1914 Southern Railway EMU (or SR EMU for short) was .. well lets say the 3rd rail system was mostly installed by the 1930s but war put a halt to the trains themself that for many years after war steam still ran everywhere down south 19:47:28 <Stablean> <bon> at least the emu trains themself were decent nevertheless 19:47:38 <Stablean> <Mark> wow we have a train buff 19:47:42 <skyem123> is that why when going south all the trains are 3rd rail? 19:47:46 <Stablean> <bon> not really mark..just know a few particular special things 19:48:04 <Stablean> <bon> skyem123..I think...I mean if 3rd rail worked for SR then why should BR spend money trashing it for overhead right? 19:48:12 <skyem123> yes 19:48:14 <Stablean> <bon> :) 19:48:40 <Stablean> <bon> skyem and the APT was supposed to be the future. but mm yeah 19:49:03 <skyem123> the trains that go behind my house are 25kv AC overhead 19:49:11 <Stablean> <bon> at least ukrs2-addon does have the APT train included :) 19:49:15 <skyem123> the same as on the west coast main line 19:49:19 <Stablean> <bon> I've used it a bit last I recall a ukrs game 19:49:39 <Stablean> <bon> well you'll get some nice freight and passenger overhead electrics later on too :P 19:49:55 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 19:50:04 <Stablean> <bon> especially the Class 91 which is still used for some chunnel trains (only reason I kinda knew of them) 19:50:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice, alcohol 19:50:12 <Stablean> <bon> hi vinnie 19:50:18 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 19:50:20 <Stablean> <bon> yeah I'm having fun here vinnie :P 19:50:22 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey 19:51:12 <Stablean> <bon> skyem also did you know that a underground 0-4-2T actually ran on one route with some historic wooden wagons a while ago as an anniversitary thing? :) 19:51:15 <Stablean> <bon> was fun to read about it :P 19:51:23 <skyem123> yes 19:51:28 <skyem123> i wen't on it 19:51:32 <Stablean> <bon> ah...lucky you heh 19:51:38 <Stablean> <bon> I'm in canada so way too far for me 19:51:44 <skyem123> London underground 150 19:51:46 <Stablean> <Muel> canada<3 19:52:10 <Stablean> <bon> skyem yeah I recall some people asking why the hell they were allowing a steam l ocomotive down there... these very people obviously had no history clue :) 19:52:24 <Stablean> <bon> the route it went on was the old original pre-electric routes with better ventilations etc 19:52:54 <Stablean> <bon> oh look....a tube car is out now :) 19:53:16 <skyem123> half of the journy was by steam. the other by early electric 19:53:22 <Stablean> <bon> would be nice for later towns when they're larger 19:53:28 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...yeah 19:55:31 <Stablean> *** King Peky has left the game (leaving) 19:56:31 <Stablean> <bon> found a nice short route so I decided to run one for now :) 19:57:38 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 19:57:41 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 19:58:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> vinnie thanks for your help in the larst game 19:58:19 <Stablean> <Muel> bon: ? 19:58:22 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 19:58:28 <Stablean> <bon> muel hm? 19:58:32 <Stablean> <Vinnie> your welcome 19:58:42 <Stablean> <Muel> sign up this 19:58:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:59:01 <Mark> !rcon set inflation 19:59:01 <Stablean> Mark: Current value for 'inflation' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1) 19:59:03 <Stablean> <bon> muel...mm? 19:59:06 <Mark> !rcon set inflation 0 19:59:13 <Stablean> <Muel> why you dont have stadion ? 19:59:14 <Mark> skyem123: inflation should be off please 19:59:18 <Stablean> <bon> muel...money atm 19:59:27 <skyem123> oopa 19:59:29 <skyem123> oops 19:59:38 <Stablean> <Muel> lol 2000 Ł ? 19:59:44 <Stablean> <bon> didn't bugtest the map eh skyem? 19:59:50 <skyem123> nope 19:59:56 <Stablean> <Muel> you see? 19:59:58 <Stablean> <Mark> ive turned it off 20:00:01 <Stablean> <bon> muel..thats cheat 20:00:03 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 20:00:05 <Stablean> <bon> and I prefer not 20:00:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb jam 20:00:40 <Stablean> <Muel> but on start it is good :) 20:00:48 <Stablean> <bon> I have enough ore for now anyway 20:00:50 <Stablean> <bon> but thanks still 20:01:44 <Stablean> <bon> and beside it'll be a bit easier having just one spot to drop off limited amount of engineering supplies to too just as well 20:01:50 <Stablean> <Muel> ok but when you will 20:01:52 <Stablean> <bon> (yeah ore > metal > engineering supplies > back to ore) 20:01:58 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#7) 20:02:16 <Stablean> <bon> 84 crates is kinda a bit large for one single mine 20:02:36 <Stablean> <Muel> Vinnie: yes i know 20:02:44 <Stablean> <Vinnie> is that normal 20:02:58 <Stablean> <bon> nice one you found muel :) 20:03:08 <Stablean> <Benny> its the weird signal sprites that does it i guess vinnie 20:03:14 <Stablean> <Muel> i thing when it is one 20:03:21 <Stablean> <bon> benny its not weird when you look up "flashing orange" in different rail signal systems 20:03:23 <Stablean> <Muel> but TY :) 20:03:33 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:04:18 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 20:06:28 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 20:06:45 <Stablean> <bon> heh nice now theres a cheap little railcar for villages :) 20:07:23 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 20:08:20 <skyem123> ack! 20:08:26 <skyem123> i may need to start again 20:08:44 <Stablean> <bon> messed up something badly? 20:08:47 <Stablean> <Benny> pretty sure you do :P 20:09:07 <skyem123> terrible network 20:09:08 <skyem123> ugh 20:09:09 <Stablean> <bon> well your loan interest has been outpacing your train profits anyway :-s 20:09:20 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined spectators 20:09:32 <skyem123> i going for few min 20:09:39 *** Vinnie_NL has quit IRC 20:09:43 <Stablean> <bon> ok :) 20:18:41 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 20:19:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> mark can u restart my company 20:19:56 <Mark> !rcon reset_company 4 20:19:56 <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted. 20:20:07 <Stablean> <Mark> there you go happy 20:20:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 20:23:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i am going to try won mor time to doo a net werk 20:23:29 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#4) 20:23:50 <Stablean> <Muel> yea :) 20:24:32 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:25:10 <Stablean> <bon> ok that almost scared me for a moment...I was hoping that was NOT my glasswork 20:25:12 <Stablean> <bon> >_< 20:28:34 <skyem123> can you reset my company? 20:29:40 <Stablean> <Mark> whaaat 20:29:46 <Stablean> <Mark> i keep resetting companies 20:29:57 <Mark> whats the company number? 20:29:57 <skyem123> ukrs2 is hard. :-p 20:30:01 <Stablean> <bon> mark..at least its never me tho? :) 20:30:04 <skyem123> 2 20:30:09 <Mark> nah the tracks are too expensive 20:30:13 <Mark> !rcon reset_company 2 20:30:13 <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted. 20:30:20 <Stablean> <bon> then whats the point of playing 60+ years then? 20:30:26 <Stablean> <Benny> expanding 20:30:44 <Stablean> <bon> benny...and that means making profits first eh? 20:30:46 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#2) 20:30:59 <Stablean> <Muel> reset reset reset :D :D :D 20:31:29 <Stablean> <bon> let me buy your company them muel 20:31:51 <Stablean> <Muel> i dont buy company other player 20:31:57 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah you're doing it the fair way bon :P 20:32:11 <Stablean> <bon> thanks mark :) 20:32:21 <Stablean> <Mark> im a bit emberassed im cheating 20:32:21 <Stablean> <bon> if the others keep asking for resets I'll probably be #1 then 20:32:24 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:32:26 <Stablean> <Mark> at least ive got some trains now though 20:33:12 <Stablean> <bon> mm..can I just make one small suggestion mark? 20:33:22 <Stablean> <Mark> sure 20:33:48 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 20:34:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> new map? 20:34:15 <Stablean> <bon> thats 2 less slope...train speed should be a bit higher 20:34:21 <Stablean> <Muel> why? 20:34:23 <Stablean> <bon> but thats up to you mark 20:34:23 <skyem123> when does the southern emu come out? 20:34:35 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah the tracks would cost me 10k though :P 20:34:41 <Stablean> <bon> skyem.. 1914 I think..or was that the pre-southern one? :-s 20:34:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> same map w/o silly rail costs 20:34:43 <Stablean> <bon> mark...heh :) 20:34:53 <Stablean> <bon> jam35...then are you going to reset game in <1960 or what? 20:35:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> w/o finescale rails to be exact 20:35:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> no only if people want that 20:35:21 <Stablean> <bon> meh..what is the obsession people have with earning 10M in only one year? 20:35:23 <skyem123> i could lower the cost of track in the next verison of my map 20:35:38 <Stablean> <Benny> id second that jam 20:35:40 <Stablean> <Muel> when you will we cant give reset 20:35:44 <Stablean> <Benny> but its too late for me to join today anyway 20:35:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> it's quite boring having to wait hours to build 20:35:56 <Stablean> <Benny> ^ 20:36:03 <Stablean> <bon> jam35...then why am I still building and building each few minutes? 20:36:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> all that is changed is the rail type removed 20:36:18 <skyem123> the finescale rails are necacerry for 3rd rail 20:36:19 <happy_> jam whonts your map like 20:36:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> same map less those rails 20:36:42 <skyem123> i could lower costs 20:36:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> bon you have built hardly anything in an hour real time 20:37:02 <Stablean> <bon> jam35...you're not looking then 20:37:05 <Stablean> <Benny> if i wanted an economic challenge i'd play gamebiz tbh 20:37:07 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 20:37:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> 3 tiny routes = nothing imo 20:37:30 <happy_> jam can i have a look at your map 20:37:36 <Stablean> <Mark> it is boring 20:37:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> it's the same map :)))) 20:37:45 <Stablean> <Mark> i dont really care, i'll be gone for the weekend anyway 20:37:49 <Stablean> <Mark> up to you then bon 20:37:56 <Stablean> <Benny> going anywhere exciting mark? 20:37:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> same map only no rail cost 20:38:01 <Stablean> <bon> meh..maybe I'll just quit for good because it seem like too many people just want lazy and crap ... I kinda have had enough on two maps before anyway 20:38:07 <Stablean> <bon> sorry 20:38:14 <Stablean> <Benny> whats with the negative attitude dude? 20:38:25 <happy_> ar ok go for it jam 20:38:35 <skyem123> what would be a better track cost? 20:38:44 <skyem123> half or less 20:38:47 <Stablean> <bon> benny..whats negative about actually playing a real company? 20:38:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> those rails alter the track cost 20:39:10 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah just get rid of the grf 20:39:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> and make the signals invisible 20:39:18 <skyem123> uhhh 20:39:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> i removed the grf 20:39:23 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 20:39:26 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 20:39:32 <Stablean> <bon> hi liuk? 20:39:36 <skyem123> do 3rd rail trains still work? 20:39:41 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators 20:39:49 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 20:39:53 <Mark> anyone want to take over my company? 20:40:00 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined company #3 20:40:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> they would use electrified rail 20:40:11 <Stablean> <Mark> pw is cleared 20:40:14 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators 20:40:30 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 20:40:32 <Stablean> <bon> mmm I could but its on wrong side etc tho :-s 20:40:38 <Stablean> <Muel> you give newgame ? 20:41:17 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 20:41:29 <Jam35> !rcon reset_company 5 20:41:30 <Stablean> Jam35: Company deleted. 20:41:46 <Stablean> <Muel> Mark: ? 20:41:53 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:42:18 <Stablean> <Mark> yes? 20:42:28 <Stablean> <Muel> Mark: give you newgame ? or no ? 20:42:30 <Stablean> <Mark> you guys decide if you want a new map 20:42:37 <Stablean> <Mark> jam will load it for you 20:42:56 *** Taede sets mode: -o Taede 20:43:09 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 20:43:11 <happy_> redey 20:43:11 <Stablean> <Muel> Mark: give you 2cctrains ? pls :) 20:43:27 <Mark> ukrs is fine 20:43:35 <Mark> would be the same map with regular rails 20:43:50 <skyem123> working on it 20:44:45 <skyem123> how does 150 per track sound? 20:45:49 <Jam35> read the chat 20:45:50 <skyem123> *159 20:45:56 <Mark> i think jam made a map 20:46:03 <Mark> you need to take the newgrf out 20:46:08 <skyem123> but... but... 20:46:21 <skyem123> :-( 20:46:33 <Stablean> <bon> heh silly hotel...I should build another tube route to empty it out 20:49:58 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:50:07 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 20:50:45 <skyem123> map 1.6 is made 20:50:59 <Stablean> *** Muel has joined spectators 20:51:35 <Stablean> <Muel> give you 2 cc trains ? 20:51:46 <skyem123> erm... 20:51:55 <skyem123> monorail is too cheap... 20:52:11 <skyem123> (me testing 1.6) 20:53:56 <happy_> skyem123 can i have a look at your new map 20:54:19 <skyem123> almost donw 20:54:22 <skyem123> *done 20:56:50 <Stablean> <Muel> i waiting for newgame 20:57:37 <skyem123> hmm 20:57:42 <skyem123> purr is too cheap 20:57:50 <skyem123> should i remove it? 20:58:25 <planetmaker> what, waiting for new game? This game started only a few hours ago 20:58:47 <Stablean> <bon> yeah I have no clue planetmaker :-> 20:59:16 <planetmaker> just because a map is different from usual doesn't mean it's scrapped on a fast track... 20:59:16 <skyem123> in my new map, should i remove purr? 20:59:48 <happy_> the tran line cost is to hi planetmaker 21:00:02 <Stablean> <bon> happy...so why is trains running? 21:00:09 <planetmaker> !revision 21:00:09 <Stablean> planetmaker: Game version is 1.3.2 21:00:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the tran cost is ok bon 21:01:03 <Stablean> <bon> doesn't matter..trains are still running so why should that make any difference? 21:01:34 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 21:02:12 <Stablean> *** player joined the game 21:02:12 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 21:03:09 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 21:03:31 <Stablean> *** player has changed his/her name to planetm4ker 21:03:43 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 21:07:10 <skyem123> i'm not very good at making maps am i... 21:07:22 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined company #3 21:07:38 <Stablean> <bon> actually you did a decent job on this one tbh (its not your fault that firs likes to "bunch" things at times anyway) 21:07:55 <happy_> skem123 u did the map good 21:08:06 <planetmaker> FIRS is written such that industries can only cluster 21:08:10 <planetmaker> you have no other chance really 21:08:19 <planetmaker> at least primary ones like mines or farms 21:08:29 <skyem123> i mean the rail cost etc... 21:08:56 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker at least it does not literally bunch everything like eg the oil well isn't next to oil refinery :) 21:09:23 <planetmaker> no, I know :-P I wrote part of that code ;-) 21:09:31 <Stablean> <bon> ahhhh ;) 21:09:43 <planetmaker> at least some earlier version 21:09:57 <planetmaker> andy kept re-writing stuff ;-) 21:10:15 <Stablean> <bon> heh 21:10:21 <Stablean> <bon> does he drink a lot? 21:10:21 <Stablean> <bon> :) 21:10:46 <planetmaker> dunno. He's quick to try this approach and that :-) 21:10:53 <Stablean> <bon> heh...ok ;) 21:10:59 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators 21:11:01 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has started a new company (#5) 21:14:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> gah. Bridge length 21:14:53 <skyem123> is 16 21:14:56 <skyem123> *12 21:15:00 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators 21:15:05 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 21:15:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'some British Railway company' Year Founded: 1900 Money: 23822 Loan: 420000 Value: 1 (T:11, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 21:15:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(White) Company Name: 'Greater Anglia' Year Founded: 1906 Money: 3883 Loan: 120000 Value: 1 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 21:15:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Pink) Company Name: 'Alcoholics United' Year Founded: 1900 Money: 314533 Loan: 500000 Value: 1533 (T:6, R:15, P:0, S:0) unprotected 21:15:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Orange) Company Name: 'happy tran sport Transport' Year Founded: 1906 Money: 6124 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:4, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 21:15:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Red) Company Name: 'planetm4ker Transport' Year Founded: 1909 Money: 454226 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 21:15:07 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have one more message 21:15:08 <planetmaker> !more 21:15:08 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:6(Green) Company Name: 'Muel Transport' Year Founded: 1902 Money: 742316 Loan: 500000 Value: 578730 (T:11, R:6, P:0, S:0) protected 21:15:20 <planetmaker> !rcon reset_company 5 21:15:20 <Stablean> planetmaker: *** Muel has joined company #6 21:15:20 <Stablean> planetmaker: Company deleted. 21:15:34 <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN! 21:15:41 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has started a new company (#5) 21:16:13 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker you always can go from Hedingham to Kinfingbridge 21:17:20 <Stablean> *** CGW joined the game 21:18:08 <Stablean> *** CGW has started a new company (#7) 21:21:01 <skyem123> i may die... 21:21:09 <skyem123> (in the game) 21:24:14 <Stablean> <bon> nice long string of stagecoaches there planetmaker :P 21:24:16 <Stablean> <bon> hehe 21:24:59 <Stablean> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 21:25:20 <planetmaker> well. I need passengers :D 21:25:24 <Stablean> <bon> aye :) 21:25:36 <Stablean> <skyem123> i may need to join up with someone... 21:25:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but no-one tell me one cannot make a profit here 21:26:06 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker..yeah I'm making several profits atm...still have too much more to push :) 21:28:32 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined spectators 21:29:16 <Stablean> <bon> heh nice..first bogie freight wagon just came out like now 21:30:28 <planetmaker> skyem123, I think it's a nice map with a decent challange 21:31:01 <skyem123> Thanks, it's too hard for me... 21:31:10 <planetmaker> not the usual 10 billion in 5 years map 21:31:24 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker..funny I was saying that kind of remark earlier on 21:31:44 <skyem123> can i join with someone? 21:32:40 <planetmaker> as there's not much money, that'd not be too much fun, I guess. 21:32:53 <planetmaker> My advice is to start with a single profitable line. Which one then can extend 21:33:20 <Stablean> <bon> or alternative option (not for everyone tho) is to make several small routes and eventually merge things over time 21:33:23 <skyem123> the problem is: where? 21:33:53 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has started a new company (#8) 21:34:01 <planetmaker> gruburg - plefingley 21:34:04 <planetmaker> for instance 21:34:29 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> the map is huge. Many opportunities. 21:34:51 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> don't terraform much. Just build track. Go around mountains rather than through 21:34:51 <Stablean> <bon> I haven't even "scratched the surface" as I guess someone may quote 21:35:02 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 21:35:11 <Stablean> <bon> yeah I never understood massive terraforming neither 21:36:09 <Stablean> <Mark> so we're keeping the map? 21:36:37 <skyem123> you either love it or hate it 21:36:41 <skyem123> :-p 21:36:43 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> will i for jam was going to doo a new map 21:36:50 <planetmaker> yes, sure, why not keep it? 21:37:02 <Stablean> <Mark> its a bit slow 21:37:16 <Stablean> <Mark> easy to make money with some cheating though :P 21:37:24 <skyem123> people like planetmaker like it slow! 21:37:35 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..to me its not slow..its real-profit ;) 21:38:05 <Stablean> <Mark> profit is hardly the most exciting part of the game though 21:38:08 <planetmaker> I anyway spend too much time watching stuff move. With slow games it doesn't matter ;-) 21:38:18 <Benny> what mark said 21:38:28 <Benny> i like building tracks, not watching numbers go up 21:38:38 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker yeah I'm away for a few hours...or asleep anyway...when I come back its always too much $ unless its in my own game (or exactly ones like THIS one) 21:38:53 <Stablean> <Mark> same for most i guess 21:39:31 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 21:39:36 <Stablean> <Mark> imho its much more fun as a sandbox game 21:39:46 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_station_spread 21:39:46 <Stablean> planetmaker: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting. 21:39:53 <planetmaker> !rcon set station_spread 21:39:53 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '16' (min: 4, max: 64) 21:39:57 <skyem123> it's 16 21:40:07 <skyem123> beat me to it.. 21:40:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> just found a typical Mark-I-cheat-everywhere-as-much-as-i-can 21:40:56 <Stablean> <Mark> i could have cheated way more 21:41:10 <Stablean> <Mark> at least i dont cheat in love 21:41:16 <Stablean> <Mark> :) 21:41:36 <Stablean> <Mark> skyem123: join my company if you like 21:41:57 <skyem123> what company is it? 21:42:04 <Stablean> <Mark> its making some decent money 21:42:08 <Stablean> <Mark> pink 21:42:14 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #3 21:42:28 <Stablean> <Mark> go ahead build some stuff 21:43:06 <Stablean> <Mark> just build stuff 21:43:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 21:48:31 <skyem123> LAG 21:52:41 <skyem123> . 21:57:11 <skyem123> the london underground is a bit... low profit 21:57:51 <Mark> better just add some stations to my network 21:57:56 <Stablean> <bon> skyem its really meant to auger in-town systems for most part .. although its still somewhat useable as "normal trains" as I am tho 21:58:14 <Mark> connect some more fruit plants and make an alcohol drop 21:58:14 <skyem123> me = fail 21:58:16 <Stablean> <bon> the two towns are too close together to really run normal rail trains anyway 22:01:48 <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN! 22:02:23 <skyem123> how does station walking work? 22:02:39 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ctrl+click :-) 22:02:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and then select station to join 22:02:46 <Stablean> <Mark> when building a station 22:02:49 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we need not 'walk' 22:03:07 <Stablean> <Mark> walking was ages ago 22:03:25 <Stablean> <bon> agree planetmaker...I've only been guilt of it with towns ..but thats only because I can't place station underground like with either simutrans game or real train stations :) 22:04:33 <Stablean> <skyem123> how do i connect it to your rail without it breaking? 22:04:52 <Stablean> <Mark> well its not really that complicated 22:05:10 <Stablean> <bon> apparently now I seem to be making a bit more profits than I can bother building things...but meh :) 22:05:22 <Stablean> <bon> going off for a short time soon to eat supper tho 22:05:35 <skyem123> uhhh 22:05:50 <Stablean> <Mark> awww 22:05:57 <Stablean> <Mark> someone buy pms company :D 22:06:08 <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather let him do what he wishes 22:07:30 <Stablean> <Mark> pm youre going bankrupt 22:08:52 <Stablean> <bon> at least I envy planetmaker as his area has a fishing harbour...I got none :-s 22:09:28 <Stablean> <Mark> shame no ships are available 22:09:38 <Stablean> <bon> mark thats why they're all close to the shore 22:09:56 <Stablean> <Mark> i know 22:09:59 <Stablean> <bon> np :) 22:10:01 <Stablean> <Mark> ships would be good though 22:10:04 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 22:10:09 <Stablean> <bon> yeah agreed on that mark 22:10:11 <Stablean> <Mark> cheaper than trains 22:10:28 <skyem123> i thought there are ships... 22:10:31 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> quite 22:10:35 <Stablean> <bon> mark problem is...how to differ people that really need ships vs people that abuse them for coastline routes instead of using trains 22:10:41 <Stablean> <Mark> theyre not available yet though 22:10:43 <Stablean> <bon> but ehh yeah :-s 22:10:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not this early 22:10:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> default starting year is 1950 22:11:10 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> don't expect anything to work without special newgrfs before 1930 22:11:21 <Stablean> <bon> wish I could give you a bit $ planetmaker but ah well :-> 22:11:23 <Stablean> <Mark> FISH would have been nice 22:11:42 <Stablean> <bon> ok I need to afk now...see you later unless this isn't here 22:11:48 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 22:12:09 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 22:12:13 <Stablean> <Mark> planetm4ker: looks like your annual profit is around 1k 22:12:16 <Stablean> <Mark> nice job :D 22:12:22 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep :P 22:13:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> though will get better. wrong orders 22:13:39 <Stablean> <CGW> when do we get ships? 22:13:54 <Stablean> <Mark> around 1930 probably 22:14:08 <Stablean> <CGW> ok, cool 22:14:16 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> houses are also only available 1930 ;-) 22:14:35 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but OpenTTD is nice. And makes all houses which have the lowest introduction date, available at year 0 22:15:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem i need muney to ade this ore mine 22:15:55 <skyem123> uhm... 22:15:56 <Stablean> <V453000> moo 22:15:57 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 22:15:58 <Stablean> <Mark> oh no 22:16:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 22:16:06 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> run! 22:16:09 <skyem123> my train may slow down the whole network 22:16:09 <Stablean> <Mark> this is a map for you V 22:16:14 * skyem123 hides 22:16:17 <Stablean> <Mark> slow start map 22:16:23 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 22:16:28 <Benny> inb4 cheats 22:16:33 <Stablean> <Mark> ive actually started cheating 22:16:37 <Stablean> <Mark> and even then its slow 22:16:38 <Benny> YES 22:16:45 <Stablean> <Mark> pm is going bankrupt :D 22:16:47 <Stablean> <V453000> why the fuck are the signals blurry 22:16:58 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah thats cause of the railtype 22:17:00 <Stablean> <V453000> im pretty sure I am sober 22:17:04 <Stablean> <Mark> the rails cost 1.2k 22:17:06 <Stablean> <V453000> I figured that 22:17:12 <Stablean> <V453000> nice 22:17:55 <Stablean> *** Niko joined the game 22:17:59 <Stablean> *** abz joined the game 22:18:02 <skyem123> my map is like marmite 22:18:10 <skyem123> you either love it or hate it 22:18:28 <planetmaker> I hate marmite :-P 22:18:50 <Stablean> <V453000> no nuts, bad map :> 22:18:50 <Stablean> <V453000> easy math 22:18:57 <Stablean> <Niko> hi folks 22:19:01 <skyem123> i clogged your network Mark 22:19:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 22:19:09 <Stablean> *** Niko has started a new company (#9) 22:19:21 <Stablean> <Mark> wtf :D 22:19:32 <Stablean> <V453000> Mark is so noob that his network clogs itself 22:19:38 <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt need help 22:19:40 <Stablean> <Mark> not this time 22:19:42 <skyem123> that was me... 22:19:48 <Stablean> <Mark> that train is epic 22:19:54 <Stablean> <Mark> can you get rid of it? 22:19:56 <Stablean> <V453000> nice stats 22:19:59 <Stablean> <V453000> send it downhill 22:20:00 <skyem123> planet + hill == pain 22:20:05 <Stablean> <V453000> only option unless you want to die waiting 22:20:23 <Stablean> <V453000> having train with 122hp and 12kN TE is really cute 22:20:33 <Stablean> <Mark> its almost there 22:20:43 <Stablean> <Mark> also, you've sent those trains the wrong way 22:20:47 <Stablean> <Mark> fruit drop is the other way 22:20:51 <skyem123> never again... 22:21:03 <Stablean> <V453000> I hereby severely hate those signals 22:21:05 <Stablean> <V453000> gnight 22:21:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:21:11 <Stablean> <Mark> night 22:21:13 <skyem123> where is the fruit drop? 22:21:19 <Stablean> <Mark> east 22:21:45 <planetmaker> yeah, the signals are... bad 22:22:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 22:22:25 <Benny> at least they have the cutesie blinking PBS signal 22:22:57 <skyem123> oops 22:23:14 <skyem123> pop goes the train! 22:23:16 <V453000> I honestly dont even get how do you draw that blurry thing in pixel things 22:23:29 <V453000> assuming some dumb downscaling or such 22:23:31 <Stablean> <Mark> one pixel wide 22:24:01 <Stablean> <skyem123> where is the fruit drop? 22:24:09 <Stablean> <Mark> Marnwell West 22:24:19 <skyem123> ok 22:24:26 <Stablean> <Mark> not Marnhall Woods 22:25:25 <Stablean> <skyem123> i don't know what i'm doing do i? 22:25:30 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:25:41 <Stablean> <Mark> you need to use the same loc 22:25:50 <skyem123> i did 0-6-0 goods 22:25:54 <Stablean> <Mark> and connect the station to the right direction 22:26:00 <Stablean> <Mark> the same one ive been using 22:26:04 <Stablean> <Mark> whatever its called 22:26:21 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 22:26:32 <Stablean> <Djanxy> good evening 22:26:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 22:26:38 <Stablean> <Mark> evening 22:26:53 <Stablean> <Djanxy> or what ever time of day it is where ever you are :D 22:27:21 <skyem123> where do i connect my station to? 22:27:41 <Stablean> <Mark> ill show you 22:28:43 <skyem123> so i got them the wrong way around? 22:28:45 <Stablean> <Mark> im a bit slow on a touchpad 22:28:51 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah 22:29:36 <Stablean> <skyem123> i did the signals 22:29:41 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 22:29:52 <Stablean> <Mark> yep 22:29:54 <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh man, i see some trains struggling with the hills :D 22:29:58 <Stablean> <Mark> now put a train on it 22:30:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi wood 22:30:10 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy, hi all 22:30:12 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#10) 22:30:16 <skyem123> 0-6-0 goods? 22:30:16 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 22:30:34 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to SelfAwareLlama 22:30:36 <Stablean> <skyem123> we are too poor 22:30:40 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah but make some more alcohol trains first 22:30:56 <Stablean> <Mark> rails are expensive, add more trains first 22:31:29 <skyem123> fruit? 22:31:33 <Stablean> <Mark> alcohool 22:31:37 <Stablean> *** SelfAwareLlama has started a new company (#11) 22:31:42 <skyem123> from where to where? 22:31:49 <Stablean> <Mark> like the last two trains i made 22:31:59 <Stablean> <Mark> just clone at the depot near Marnwell Woods 22:32:03 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#10) 22:32:07 <Stablean> <Mark> when you get the money 22:32:21 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Hey Djanxy, you're on. 22:32:31 <skyem123> Train 10? 22:32:41 <Stablean> <Mark> yes 22:32:49 <Stablean> <Mark> btw use ctrl+enter for team chat 22:32:59 <Stablean> <Mark> so not everybody has to read it 22:33:14 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he's not even talking via the game 22:33:49 <Stablean> *** abz has left the game (connection lost) 22:34:03 <Stablean> <Mark> im off anyway 22:34:07 <Stablean> <Mark> have a good night 22:34:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn 22:34:14 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> See ya Mark 22:34:15 <skyem123> argh! 22:34:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> night 22:34:18 <Stablean> <Djanxy> nn mark 22:34:28 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 22:34:32 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Man, not been on this for ages. 22:34:54 <skyem123> this is a very hard to start map 22:37:22 <planetmaker> g'night 22:37:46 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> See ya 22:37:51 <skyem123> bye! 22:37:52 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 22:38:39 *** AnsonMobil has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:38:41 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #8 22:39:02 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #3 22:41:02 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 22:41:47 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 22:42:00 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> Hey 22:42:34 <skyem123> hello 22:44:25 *** Anson has quit IRC 22:44:41 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 22:45:02 <Stablean> <bon> heh went a bit quicker than I thought 22:45:18 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ½ 22:45:20 <Stablean> <bon> oh and also got a free mini-M&M package too....halloween apparently :) 22:45:23 <Stablean> <Djanxy> what did ? and hi 22:45:34 <Stablean> <bon> oh hi djanxy.... was afk for supper 22:45:40 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah 22:45:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i think i give up on this map 22:46:05 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 22:46:13 <Stablean> <bon> ughh why did N have to almost cut off my route -_- oh well 22:46:19 <Stablean> <bon> still some space for bridges so mm its ok 22:46:25 <Stablean> <Niko> where 22:46:35 <Stablean> <bon> its ok..I can just bridge over :) 22:46:50 <Stablean> <Niko> I can also move my track 22:47:01 <Stablean> <bon> well you have water on both sides so better just leave it as it is 22:47:09 <Stablean> <Niko> ok 22:47:21 <Stablean> <bon> did you want double track in future tho? just so I know re bridge spacing 22:47:29 *** Benny has left #openttdcoop.stable 22:47:32 <Stablean> <Niko> double would be nice 22:47:35 <Stablean> <bon> ok np 22:47:45 <Stablean> <Niko> thanks 22:48:25 <Stablean> <bon> btw nice route you picked and re not going straight up the steep hill too :) 22:48:39 <Stablean> <SelfAwareLlama> ` 22:48:43 <Stablean> <Niko> I prepared for weak engines :) 22:48:49 <Stablean> <bon> although the sharp U turn could maybe be a slight issue with faster freights 22:49:00 <Stablean> <bon> niko...see my ore line... 22:49:08 <Stablean> <bon> its not straight due to the many slopes but ehh it works for now 22:49:10 <Stablean> <bon> :) 22:49:29 <Stablean> <Niko> I'll do that u-turn better once I earn some money 22:49:47 <Stablean> <bon> yeah..for now most freight locos are slower than 90 so its not a big concern 22:49:53 <Stablean> <Djanxy> probably also be a while before speed is an issue :D 22:50:01 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..like I was saying ;) 22:50:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye :D 22:50:15 <Stablean> <bon> only the Mogul is anywhere faster than 90 :p 22:50:18 <Stablean> <Djanxy> <- too slow 22:50:28 <Stablean> <bon> oh....electric freight...nice 22:52:11 <Stablean> <bon> might wait till 1930 before taking that loco tho...new wagons at same time to match :) 22:52:27 <Stablean> <Djanxy> never played much with this train set 22:52:37 <Stablean> <bon> btw I don't know why I remember first looking this up online on a uk historic rail site but what I recall goes like this... 22:53:24 <Stablean> <bon> short circular coal route between coal pit and the harbour that shipped the coal away ... it was a very early electrification setup... and in trial the EF1 could actually brake a heavier train better than the steam loco (no surprise with regenerative especially) 22:53:43 <Stablean> *** Campi joined the game 22:53:44 <Stablean> <bon> so thats why the EF1 is naturally listed for 'heavy freight' as its sorta more home on heavy shuttles 22:54:00 <Stablean> <bon> (till you get newer locos but ehh yeah) 22:54:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 22:54:23 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 22:54:25 <Stablean> <bon> even the newest 0-8-0 Mineral is weaker than it noticeably 22:54:59 <Stablean> <bon> oh and yeah skyem...the first EMU is out if you didn't noticed it yet .. if you did sorry then ;) 22:55:03 <Stablean> <Djanxy> what's the numbers ? 22:55:17 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i mean, like 0-8-0 22:55:27 <Stablean> <bon> numbers? thats the wheel code system... 22:55:42 <Stablean> <Djanxy> mmkkk.. :D 22:55:44 <Stablean> <bon> so for example 2-6-0 is one pony axle (aka leading) .. three drive axles .. and no trailing axle 22:55:58 <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha 22:56:01 <Stablean> <bon> or in the UIC system used in europe it would had been a 2'C instead (C=3 yeah) 22:56:23 <Stablean> <bon> and for a diesel/electric you have the like of eg B'B' or Bo-Bo etc 22:56:34 <Stablean> <bon> its a large system .. best to read it on wikipedia ;) 22:57:12 <Stablean> <bon> oh and for mallet/garratt the system is a bit longer but not too hard to understand nevertheless 22:57:26 <Stablean> *** Campi has started a new company (#12) 22:57:38 <Stablean> <bon> 0-6-0+0-6-0 is two separate set of three driving axles 22:57:49 <skyem123> how do you change the livery for a group of trains? 22:57:53 <Stablean> <bon> but UIC has a different system that can tell you whether its a garratt or a mallet .. different chassis anyway 22:58:08 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I think you only can use company colour per type of trains but I'm not sure 22:58:29 <skyem123> well, how do you do it pey type? 22:58:34 <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheers bon - didnt understand most of what you said but im satisfied with the answer ;) 22:58:36 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..one sec... 22:58:42 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy heh ok then 22:58:56 <Stablean> <Djanxy> but the axles make sense ;) 22:58:59 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..go to your company window (the menu with face icon on it yeah) ... 22:59:12 <skyem123> ah ha! 22:59:15 <Stablean> <bon> click on 'color scheme' (or what is it in your ottd langauge?) 22:59:29 <Stablean> <bon> and there you can choose a different color .. but its not as fine-tuned as one would want it to be tho ofc 22:59:36 <skyem123> bah! 22:59:38 <Stablean> <bon> eg all passengers trains have to be one colour 22:59:43 <skyem123> that needs to be changed! 22:59:46 <Stablean> <bon> I did warn you tho 23:00:00 <Stablean> <bon> at least the dual color is a nice extra from what the original used to be :P 23:00:03 <Stablean> *** SelfAwareLlama has left the game (leaving) 23:00:04 <skyem123> it is for emu 23:00:19 <Stablean> <bon> not all grfs can recognize the 2nd color tho mind you 23:00:30 <skyem123> UKRS2 Can 23:00:39 <Stablean> <bon> yeah but just wanted warn you in case you go playing with some other grfs ;) 23:00:50 <happy_> bb all have fun on this map see u all on the new map 23:01:02 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> bye happy 23:01:15 <skyem123> ... 23:01:16 <Stablean> <bon> oh hi wood-chopping-man 23:01:18 <Stablean> <bon> didn't see you at first :P 23:01:22 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon 23:01:45 <Stablean> <bon> how're you? 23:01:45 <skyem123> my map is too difficult for some people. eg: happy_ 23:01:49 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i'm stealthy 23:01:51 <Stablean> <bon> ha :) 23:02:05 <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to build one major route finally...then to just keep talking a bit etc 23:02:23 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 23:02:55 <Stablean> *** Petr Cz joined the game 23:03:15 <Stablean> <bon> ah ... actually ..niko don't worry about bridges..I just realized I can simply follow the shore for a bit longer and basically sling around bridges-free :) 23:04:32 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13) 23:04:36 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 23:04:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 23:04:44 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 23:04:49 <skyem123> ??? 23:05:07 <Stablean> <bon> beats me too :-s 23:05:13 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#14) 23:05:17 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 23:05:38 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Connor 23:05:42 <Stablean> <Connor> Hello! :) 23:05:48 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 23:05:59 <Stablean> <Connor> How do i start this lol? 23:06:09 <Stablean> *** Connor has started a new company (#15) 23:06:42 <skyem123> this is a very hard map 23:06:58 <Stablean> <bon> so....why am I....here 23:07:00 <Stablean> <Connor> Im new to this game so.. :P 23:07:02 <Stablean> <bon> heh no comment anyway 23:07:37 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 23:07:41 <Stablean> <Connor> How do i start or where do i start? 23:07:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn I missed the start 23:07:57 <skyem123> you need to play singleplayer to know the basics 23:07:58 <Stablean> <bon> generally try find an empty area etc you know? 23:07:58 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> did you check !rules 23:08:22 <Stablean> <Connor> yes i did 23:08:24 <skyem123> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD 23:08:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey, I have to leave in an hour, but in the meantime does anybody want help? 23:08:50 <Stablean> <Connor> me 23:09:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You haven't built anyting 0_o 23:09:40 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well that's why he wants help :) 23:09:40 <Stablean> <Connor> I know i dont know this game 23:09:51 <Stablean> <Connor> i justed watched YOGSCAST Sips play it lol :) 23:10:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'd like to help but you are on the wrong server man 23:10:04 <Stablean> *** Petr Cz has left the game (leaving) 23:10:12 <skyem123> read the manuala at http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD 23:10:26 <Stablean> <Connor> That made no sence? I would like to help you but your on the wrong server? 23:10:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> This place is hard to get good at because of all the newGRF's/mods 23:10:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> they don't play like the people here 23:10:37 <Stablean> <Connor> what server should i be on? All servers are the same lol 23:10:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It would be really hard to explain how to play here 23:11:02 <skyem123> play singleplayer 23:11:02 <Stablean> <bon> conner..your own map maybe? 23:11:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> try a city builder, they are fun and easy 23:11:08 <Stablean> <bon> heh ^ 23:11:19 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The community here is well...pro 23:11:33 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could learn how to play here but it would be really hard to catch up 23:11:55 <Stablean> <Connor> i am not botherd about catching up i just wanna know the basics 23:12:01 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 23:12:09 <Stablean> <bon> basics = single games first? 23:12:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well single player is definately the place to start 23:12:12 <skyem123> then play singleplayer 23:12:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> and the openttdcoop wiki 23:12:23 <Stablean> <Connor> I did that but there is no tutorial on there 23:12:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The wiki is full of save games with many examples 23:12:29 <Stablean> <bon> seem like we're repeating each others a lot here heh 23:12:43 <Stablean> <Djanxy> there is a tutorial save game you can take a look at 23:12:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> seem like we're repeatch each others a lot here heh 23:12:50 <Stablean> <Connor> Oh ima check it out 23:12:56 <Stablean> *** Connor has left the game (leaving) 23:13:00 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher oh cut that out thompson! 23:13:06 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ;) 23:13:06 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 23:13:24 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher I always did find thompson+thomson silly.. I mean when one says something other always repeat same thing starting with "to be precise..." 23:13:26 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> too bad I typoed it 23:13:29 <Stablean> <bon> you know what I mean I hope? :) 23:13:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I should play on this server more 23:13:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah I know 23:13:56 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher and haddock's curses were always something 23:14:21 <Stablean> <bon> TEN THOUSANDS THUNDERING TYPHOONS!!! or how about A BILLION BLUSTERING BARNACULES!!!! 23:14:27 <Stablean> <bon> heh ;) 23:14:29 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :) 23:14:29 <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game 23:14:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> unfortunately being Australian I tend to be online when everybody else isn't 23:14:52 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> G'day 23:14:54 <Stablean> <bon> and woodbutcher there's that thing where he really yells at someone only 1-2 inches from their ears too 23:15:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> G'DAY CUTNTS 23:15:04 <Stablean> <bon> poor person going deaf :) 23:15:10 <Stablean> <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!!!!! 23:15:53 <Stablean> *** Taede has left the game (connection lost) 23:16:13 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher or on a different subject.. how about Han Solo? 23:16:29 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he shot first? 23:16:51 <Stablean> <bon> "that looks like a pile of junk" <luke's remark about han's ship at first sight 23:17:01 <Stablean> <bon> but hey it managed to take off under fire right? 23:17:29 <Stablean> *** jedraf joined the game 23:17:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The millenium falcon is actually a really crappy ship 23:17:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Han made heaps of modifications though 23:17:53 <Stablean> <bon> well it was supposed to be a generic cargo carrier...but han naturally mashed it up into something else :) 23:18:20 <Stablean> <bon> at least if you want a nicer looking ship even if it looks a bit boat-y you just have to look at Lady Luck .. its more or less factory-built (although I dunno about the weaponery on it) 23:18:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and flew the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs 23:18:29 <Stablean> <bon> owned by Lando himself 23:18:43 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and don't get cocky kids 23:18:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> argh 23:18:48 <Stablean> <bon> haha..han said that :) 23:19:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> having a hard time figuring out the new industry types here 23:19:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> me too 23:19:11 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...can I make a suggestion... 23:19:16 <skyem123> It's FIRS 23:19:19 <Stablean> <bon> click on the one you're interested in.. click on 'industry chain' 23:19:23 <Stablean> <bon> that makes it too dumb easy 23:19:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I know, still confusing the fuck out of me 23:19:35 <Stablean> <bon> but there are some things that are still like original such as ore>steelmill 23:19:37 <Stablean> <bon> mm 23:19:39 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah Shnupz, it's really confusing the first few times 23:19:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> bloody FIRS, I could never remember what to do 23:19:43 <Stablean> <Djanxy> still is a bit for me 23:19:55 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...for some strange reason I like firs... hate having to touch the original industry at all 23:19:58 <Stablean> <bon> I'm weird I guess 23:20:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> btw I haven't played since 1.1 came out 23:20:02 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but sometimes you are missing a key industry on an island 23:20:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> That's why I'm so confused :P 23:20:21 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i actually only started playing recently 23:20:26 <Stablean> <bon> :P back to you 23:20:28 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like Oh 5 ore mines....with no where to bring the ore to 23:20:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> But you could fund a steel mill later 23:20:52 <Stablean> <bon> wheres the ore mines? 23:20:54 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, always missing that one industry that makes the chain work :D 23:20:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> just an example 23:21:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wow, I see all the ore mins 23:21:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bottom left corner? 23:21:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah 23:21:45 <Stablean> *** jedraf has started a new company (#4) 23:21:53 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh? there was a steel mill near Meburg 23:22:03 <Stablean> <bon> must have gone due to no players around 23:22:05 <Stablean> <bon> :-( 23:22:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sometimes I feel like it's more fun to observe than play OTTD 23:22:57 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> can you access the fishing sites via trains? 23:23:03 <Stablean> <bon> yes 23:23:25 <Stablean> <bon> they have a parameter for maximum distance from shore so in this case they're set to always be accessible by land vehicles alone atm 23:23:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ahh gotcha 23:23:37 <Stablean> <bon> btw the catchment area is larger than the sign itself fyi 23:23:59 <skyem123> distance of 4 23:24:22 <skyem123> (fishing sites from shore) 23:24:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> For a while I was wondering how bon is doing the best out of everybody here 23:24:35 <Stablean> <bon> heh? :) 23:24:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> then I noticed how your stuff isn't just in the top left corner 23:24:39 <Stablean> <bon> the ore trains were my first route 23:24:55 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so are you guys gonna refit to carry the other supplies or make special trains for that? 23:25:04 <Stablean> <bon> nothing has changed ... I may upgrade the locos one day tho 23:25:08 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher it depends on network 23:25:26 <Stablean> <bon> some players like djanxy at least once managed to make a double-refit schedule where it carried goods one way and a different goods other way 23:25:36 <Stablean> <bon> you remember that one djanxy? you had "split" stations with depots in middle 23:25:46 <Stablean> <bon> it was for metal as I recall 23:26:05 <Stablean> <bon> (or at least some cargo that went both way) 23:26:55 <Stablean> *** Campi has left the game (leaving) 23:27:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bon, are you going to add Plefingley Ore Mine to your iron or chain? 23:27:21 <Stablean> <bon> niko so anyway I build my route a bit out of the way...hope it work well for you :) 23:27:44 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...maybe....not sure yet...with newer loco for the hills it seem plausible 23:27:46 <Stablean> <Niko> its okay, I saw it 23:27:52 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah bon, remember the refits :) 23:27:54 <Stablean> <bon> but its not on my priority list 23:28:00 <Stablean> <Djanxy> sorry, im semi afk here ;) 23:28:03 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy np 23:28:26 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok lets all talk about djanxy :) 23:28:33 <Stablean> <bon> rofl? 23:28:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> He seems like a boss 23:28:46 <Stablean> *** jedraf has left the game (leaving) 23:28:58 <Stablean> <Djanxy> a boss ? 23:29:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> A motherfuckin boss of the universe 23:29:27 <Stablean> <Djanxy> have to say, you pretty much hit the nail on the head there 23:29:30 <Stablean> <Djanxy> or not, lol :D 23:30:08 <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for like 30-40ish minutes but will finish this steelmill pickup when I'm back :-> 23:30:11 <Stablean> <bon> have fun in the meanwhile :) 23:30:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ahahaha Bon theres a steel mill being built right next to your iron ore mine 23:30:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya btw 23:30:23 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh cool now we can all talk about bon :) 23:30:30 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher shaddaup? :P 23:30:37 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...meh its too close so I don't want it ;) 23:30:44 <Stablean> <bon> anyway afk now :P 23:30:51 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 23:31:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm betting it's bon 23:31:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> He'd never leave us 23:31:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> mwahahaha 23:31:51 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:31:51 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 23:32:06 <skyem123> it wasn't! 23:33:54 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:33:54 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 23:34:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Skyem, did you start a second company? 23:34:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or did you jump ship and turn pink? 23:34:57 <skyem123> i jumped ship twice. 1st time to a new company 2nd to to pink 23:35:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> huh 23:35:46 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #2 23:36:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O 23:36:14 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #8 23:36:32 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #3 23:36:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are you attempting to play 3 companies at once? :O 23:36:41 <skyem123> nope 23:36:46 <skyem123> please kill 23:36:49 <skyem123> is onw 23:36:57 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 23:36:58 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 23:36:58 <skyem123> i wan't to get rid of it 23:37:06 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> buy some ships 23:37:09 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll try just that 23:37:23 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (leaving) 23:37:44 <skyem123> ships don't make you bankrupt in this map 23:37:54 <Stablean> <Djanxy> sell all vehicles 23:37:58 <skyem123> (i made this map) 23:38:02 <Stablean> <Djanxy> and leave the company 23:38:08 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no? Usually their running costs are crazy expensive 23:38:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i see 23:38:22 <skyem123> well, defualt values 23:38:25 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Don't have enough to destroy the stations 23:38:31 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #2 23:39:01 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what if you try to raise land over water? 23:39:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks 23:39:17 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined spectators 23:39:29 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has joined company #3 23:39:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually I could have tried to make that company work 23:39:46 <skyem123> lets hope it dies... 23:39:47 <skyem123> uhh 23:39:48 <skyem123> oops 23:39:51 <skyem123> ah well 23:39:51 <Stablean> <Shnupz> aww well, I have to leave in 20 anyway 23:40:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> CGW... Why the massive tram line? 23:41:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yay! :) 23:41:06 <skyem123> are you connecting to my old tram line? 23:41:11 <skyem123> yay! 23:41:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah he's making a really long and innefficient tram line from slunnington 23:41:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> to franingbury 23:42:14 <skyem123> rails are crazy-expensive 23:42:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> But trams are crazy slow 23:42:58 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:42:58 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 23:43:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Somebody needs to setup PAX to Tunnford 23:43:34 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Make that little island town grow 23:44:12 <Stablean> <skyem123> i want to... but... uh... 23:44:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or Wrendington 23:44:30 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It actually has some space 23:44:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or Tunnville :P 23:45:19 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I'm off for now, cyas. Have fun 23:45:25 <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya 23:45:33 <skyem123> i made that island in the scenario editor :-p 23:45:35 <Stablean> <Niko> me too, cu all 23:45:45 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 23:45:51 <Stablean> *** Niko has joined spectators 23:45:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ...You made this scenario? 23:46:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Oh wow, I just saw your name in the water 23:46:32 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (general timeout) 23:46:32 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (connection lost) 23:47:21 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 23:47:32 <Stablean> *** Niko has left the game (leaving) 23:47:52 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:47:53 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 23:51:34 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 23:51:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello again 23:53:30 <skyem123> the terrain was mostly natural. i edited it 23:53:34 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (leaving) 23:55:00 <skyem123> goodbye! 23:55:52 <Stablean> <skyem123> bye! 23:55:58 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 23:56:10 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 23:56:12 * skyem123 is sleeping 23:56:15 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 23:58:36 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has started a new company (#2) 23:59:08 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:59:08 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost)