Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 16th September 2014:
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00:18:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> yay got my oil going to my docks, then to refinery, then fertilizer and then to train and then to farms :D
00:18:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Need to figure out where to take the farms next :P
00:19:34  <coopserver> <Kernigh> I have an oil refinery but am yet to transport its production.
00:19:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im happy with my little chain of production :P
00:20:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Just need to get the farms going somewhere
00:21:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh cool there is a grain mill down the road :P
00:21:25  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Will truck it over
00:21:45  <coopserver> <Phantom> oops
00:21:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ?
00:22:13  <coopserver> <Phantom> was sppose to bribe them
00:22:42  <coopserver> <Kernigh> You got a near-monopoly on my news bar.
00:22:45  <coopserver> <Phantom> facepalm
00:23:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> My farm supply train makes 20,000 a trip o-0
00:28:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im not making as much money as I expected to be making
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05:14:35  <coopserver> <Hazzard> eh
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06:41:48  <Djanxy> !dl win64
06:41:48  <coopserver> Djanxy:
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07:29:11  <coopserver> <valis> hi
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07:39:18  <coopserver> <Muel> hi
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07:55:43  <planetmaker> hi. Going to dominate the map, eh? :)
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11:17:00  <coopserver> <Muel> hi
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14:53:57  <coopserver> <Jack123610> New oilrig in my water :o
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14:57:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Anyone here?
15:03:01  <Hazzard> beep
15:03:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Hey hazzard
15:04:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im happy with my little business :p
15:04:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 4 oil, to refinery then to harbor and fertiliser plant then to farms
15:04:58  <coopserver> <Jack123610> and farms will eventually go to the building down the road :P
15:05:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> and that building will go to a hotel
15:05:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> and the population will go to the hotel .-.
15:08:08  <Hazzard> :P
15:08:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Then I invest in planes and ruin it all .-.
15:10:00  <Hazzard> lol
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15:11:15  <Hazzard> cya later
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15:11:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> bye :c
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15:14:25  <coopserver> <Jack123610> holy shit the spam
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15:15:13  <coopserver> <Jack123610> damn who owns company 5?
15:15:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> you rich boy
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15:25:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> he sylf
15:25:53  <coopserver> <Sylf> hi
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15:40:04  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hi
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15:40:59  <coopserver> <Glubo> Hi
15:41:01  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hey
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15:50:21  <coopserver> <Glubo> can anyone tell what's wrong at Enschede Portland? :D
15:50:47  <coopserver> <Sylf> 1 sec
15:50:53  <coopserver> <Glubo> thx
15:51:56  <coopserver> <Sylf> you're probably missing overhead line
15:52:09  <coopserver> <Glubo> ah thanks I am stupid :D
15:52:50  <coopserver> <Glubo> yeah that was it (too much time with purr)
15:52:57  <coopserver> <Glubo> thanks a lot
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15:57:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Who owns free for all?
15:57:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> They're a god
15:58:08  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 750 million .-. damn
15:58:24  <coopserver> <Sylf> you should stop worrying about money
15:58:42  <coopserver> <Jack123610> but I have nothing even with this mass oil business x-x
15:58:58  <coopserver> <Jack123610> What should I worry about?
15:59:26  <coopserver> <Sylf> worry about having a functional transport network
15:59:41  <coopserver> <Sylf> the network that you're happy with
15:59:52  <coopserver> <Sylf> the network you can look at for hours without getting tired of it
16:00:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> The one I have now :P just need to get the farms to the grain mill
16:00:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> for hours :c dats a challenge idk where to expand my computer dies if I zoom out
16:02:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> The AI be building more bridges ._.
16:02:13  <coopserver> <Glubo> I get pretty laggy if I zoom out to max level :D
16:02:16  <coopserver> <Sylf> don't call that AI
16:02:29  <coopserver> <Jack123610> The IA .-.
16:02:31  <coopserver> <Sylf> AI in openttd is completely something else
16:03:10  <coopserver> <Jack123610> What should I call it then .-.
16:03:37  <coopserver> <Glubo> cities?
16:03:39  <Sylf> just call it town
16:03:40  <Sylf> city
16:03:46  <Sylf> yeah, whatever, like that
16:03:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok
16:04:13  <Sylf> city hall.  government.  mayor.  Rich SOB.
16:04:17  <Sylf> Head brass
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16:04:49  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I wish there was cars be fun to watch lots of little cars driving around :P
16:04:53  <planetmaker> yeah, last time I was also pretty confused by a town being called AI :) AIs are (3rd-party) computer players. But not the game itself
16:04:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Phatoms here
16:05:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> phantom* :c
16:05:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> and yay :D
16:05:28  <coopserver> <Phantom> lol
16:05:32  <coopserver> <Phantom> i just woke
16:06:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Good enough :D
16:06:12  <coopserver> <Phantom> eam chat
16:06:20  <coopserver> <Phantom> check steam chat
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16:06:40  <coopserver> <Sylf> one pair of airport, and it's an automatic money printing machine....
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16:06:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> *sigh*
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16:07:04  <coopserver> <Glubo> airplanes are OP :(
16:07:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh really? den I getting them .-.
16:07:24  <coopserver> <Jack123610> What do you use passenger?
16:07:37  <coopserver> <Glubo> no fun in them for me -- they are basically just boring machines printing money
16:07:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :c I might delete them then
16:08:10  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I did .-.
16:08:47  <Sylf> I think I'll make a new map
16:08:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Now?
16:08:57  <coopserver> <Glubo> but they are an easy way to bootstrap your income at the begining so you can start building with less restrictive budget
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16:09:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Any idea what kind of map? Like snow again or?
16:10:00  <Sylf> I'm thinking right now
16:10:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok :D
16:10:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I lag so much near the middle
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16:24:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> when do we get the new world?
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16:26:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> why did I fund road reconstruction lol its ruined everything
16:27:35  <coopserver> <Glubo> yeah it's only purpose afaik is to bring chaos to road vehicles - i am little bit surprised it is not disabled :)
16:27:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Its ruined everything lol I have trucks going in circles
16:28:08  <coopserver> <Glubo> but it is only temporary...
16:28:15  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 6 months xD
16:28:19  <Sylf> yes, it's a temporary sabotage tool against other companies
16:28:31  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I don't like it
16:28:41  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Why did I fund this I knew it would happen xD
16:28:46  <Sylf> Do it against the AI companies, and they won't flinch
16:29:13  <Sylf> do it against other players, and you risk getting pissed off players
16:29:29  <coopserver> <Jack123610> This completely ruined my business everywhere will be overflowing waiting for it to be moved .-.
16:29:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Suprised trains are still moving lol
16:30:25  <coopserver> <Glubo> Sylf, you wrote you would probably make a new map -- can you tell if it'll be in minutes/hours/days?
16:31:21  <Sylf> within 1-2 hours
16:31:28  <coopserver> <Glubo> thx for info
16:31:48  <Sylf> depends how quickly I can find the vehicle set combinations I like
16:31:53  <coopserver> <Jack123610> oh there is more time than I expected
16:32:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh you finding new stuff, cool :D
16:33:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Yay finally everything can move again lol
16:33:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Never doing that xD
16:33:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> again
16:34:05  <coopserver> <Glubo> I hav an idea ]:-)
16:34:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> You're going to buy it again xD
16:34:45  <coopserver> <Glubo> not really, just teasing you :D
16:34:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> My dock has 618,000 liters of oil and more coming :c poor trucks
16:35:11  <Sylf> I still don't know why you're using those trucks and still worry about money
16:35:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Wow thats awesome the boat raises when oil goes off and lowers when it goes on
16:35:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Neither do I .-.
16:36:00  <coopserver> <Glubo> that's cool I never noticed that
16:36:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Thing I liked about this game is trains look amazing zoomed in, we need more of them .-.
16:36:26  <Sylf> I don't use extra zoom
16:36:44  <Sylf> it makes the game unplayable for me
16:37:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :c
16:37:29  <Sylf> It's like going back to 640x480 screen
16:37:37  <Jam35> I use it to help with lag: point at uninteresting/unaminated square
16:37:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Its jam :o
16:37:59  <Jam35> not even sure it works :P
16:38:15  <Sylf> If I enable extra zoom, then zoom out all the way, it lags more for me
16:38:30  <Sylf> The game runs smoother without extra zoom on my PC
16:39:06  <Jam35> hey Jack...
16:39:15  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ?
16:39:20  <Jam35> hello
16:39:27  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Hi
16:40:31  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Someonme has the most pointless train
16:40:40  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Near De Falom
16:40:46  <Jam35> Sylf you are making map(s)? Is PS done or do you need me to do something?
16:40:53  <Sylf> Hm.  I think I'll include swedish houses to celebrate new Ikea in town here
16:40:57  <Jam35> I have some time to spare
16:41:11  <Sylf> I haven't started anything for PS yet
16:41:28  <Sylf> I'm working on a new map for welcome server now
16:41:38  <Sylf> If you have an idea for PS, go for it
16:41:40  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Can we have pineapple trains again I like dem so much :P
16:41:47  <Sylf> not this time
16:42:03  <Jam35> I haven't an idea :P I can make it up as I go is all
16:42:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok :P
16:42:08  <Sylf> and those engines are underpowered to my liking
16:42:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> power for beauty
16:42:27  <Sylf> and they're underporewed by design
16:43:15  <Sylf> It'll be default trains + Korean subways in Subtropics
16:43:22  <coopserver> <Glubo> yeah, "ideal" engines, for these hills :D
16:43:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Wow aircraft make so much I guess they will be made worse next game
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16:45:42  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I have 1 electrified railway somewhere .-.
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16:49:04  <coopserver> <Jack123610> xD one of the trains just smashed through my vehicles and went unharmed
16:49:21  <coopserver> <Glubo> yeah train beats a car
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16:49:24  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Trying to kill my friends vehicles is failing :P
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16:50:27  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Can you even kill trains in this game? .-.
16:50:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Apart from a some how train v train
16:50:57  <coopserver> <Glubo> afaik no without joining owner's company
16:51:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :C den there is no point and I know his pass
16:54:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I wish we could of had faster fishing boats .-.
16:55:24  <Jam35> Started life as a stable map but how's this?:
16:55:57  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im going to get passenger boats going up this river :P
16:56:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> nevermind lol my terra-reforming ruined it
16:59:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x im awful at making my own rivers
16:59:45  <Sylf> new map coming soon
16:59:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :D
17:00:04  <Sylf> 5-10 minutes
17:00:21  <Sylf> so wrap up your current works
17:00:34  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im not going to finish it :c
17:01:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> xD I messed this up so bad
17:02:20  <Sylf> !contentupdate
17:02:20  <coopserver> Sylf: Performing content update
17:02:21  <coopserver> Content server connection established
17:02:55  <coopserver> *** Glubo has left the game (Leaving)
17:03:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok im going off now then
17:03:36  <coopserver> Content server connection closed
17:03:41  <Sylf> !content
17:03:42  <coopserver> Downloading 7 file(s) (1633369 bytes)
17:04:02  <coopserver> *** Jack123610 has left the game (Leaving)
17:04:03  <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)
17:04:37  <Sylf> !rescan
17:04:37  <coopserver> Sylf: Scanning content directories
17:04:46  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
17:04:46  <coopserver> Sorry, still processing previous rcon command
17:05:44  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
17:05:44  <coopserver> Sorry, still processing previous rcon command
17:06:45  <coopserver> Sylf: Rescan completed
17:06:48  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
17:06:49  <coopserver> /home/openttd/svn-stable/server/save/
17:06:59  <Sylf> !rcon cd uploads
17:07:05  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
17:07:06  <coopserver> /home/openttd/svn-stable/server/save/uploads/
17:07:07  <coopserver> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout)
17:07:10  <Sylf> !rcon load 1
17:07:11  <coopserver> Starting new game
17:07:13  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server ( (Version 1.4.3-RC2)
17:07:14  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
17:07:14  <Glubo> Sylf, perfect timing with my hookah :D
17:07:25  <Sylf> !setdef
17:07:25  <coopserver> Sylf: Setting default settings: set ai_in_multiplayer 0, set extra_dynamite 1, set forbid_90_deg 1, set mod_road_rebuild 1, set order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns 1, set path_backoff_interval 1, set train_acceleration_model 1, set vehicle_breakdowns 0, set wait_for_pbs_path 255, set wait_oneway_signal 255, set wait_twoway_signal 255, and set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1
17:07:26  <Sylf> !auto
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17:07:30  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
17:07:31  <coopserver> Company deleted.
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17:08:31  <Sylf> it took 40 minutes to make this simple map  *sigh*
17:10:09  <Glubo> looks good
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17:14:54  <coopserver> <Jam35> Appealing to the Dutch contingency Sylf?
17:15:52  <coopserver> <Sylf> hmm?
17:15:53  <coopserver> <Glubo> so where will you guys start?
17:15:59  <coopserver> <Sylf> did i make anything dutch here...
17:16:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> no it's just really flat
17:16:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> not that I mind that much :)
17:16:52  <coopserver> <Sylf> all of desert locos are weak, except for Centennial, monorail and maglevs,
17:16:55  <coopserver> <Sylf> so flat map works
17:17:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> fair enuf
17:17:19  <coopserver> <Jam35> I might not start just yet, just looking in
17:17:28  <coopserver> <Glubo> it's pleasing change for me after that huge mountains from last map :D
17:17:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> If at all
17:17:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> I might help out someone later :)
17:17:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> Probably happy... ^^
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17:19:07  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :c I think I missed all the best spots by now .-.
17:19:11  <coopserver> *** Glubo has started a new company #2
17:19:33  <coopserver> <Glubo> no-one has started yet...
17:19:53  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Close nuff
17:20:07  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Did the map just change? I went to eat
17:20:17  <Sylf> also, I shouldn't make this comparison, but.... this isn't a flat map compared to many other MP servers out there :P
17:20:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> true, at least you considered what to do for the GRF
17:20:42  <coopserver> <Jack123610> How do you get water to the water supply? :P
17:20:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> I would just use NUTS done :P
17:20:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Just by boat
17:21:09  <V453000> all hail nuts :D
17:21:30  <coopserver> <Glubo> can i build on that half-island from Matsudo heading down?
17:21:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> V do you get highlighted w NUTS mention? :P
17:22:31  <Glubo> V453000, btw. thanks for making NUTS, i really like it
17:22:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im doing a oil and water business :P
17:22:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> idk where to take it though
17:22:56  <V453000> :0
17:22:58  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Nevermind :P
17:25:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> so much water stuff where im at
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17:25:51  <V453000> you are welcome Glubo
17:26:15  <V453000> Jam35: I dont, I just randomly came and read shit
17:26:20  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
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17:26:51  <Jam35> hi
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17:27:26  <V453000> !dl win64
17:27:26  <coopserver> V453000:
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17:28:06  <coopserver> <V453000> yo
17:28:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> yello
17:28:37  <coopserver> <V453000> wtf newgrfs :D
17:28:44  <coopserver> <V453000> but why not
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17:29:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> damn phones... killing wifi its 2014
17:30:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> So far liking the looks of this map
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17:32:23  <V453000> LOL
17:32:27  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ?
17:32:37  <V453000> the korean train set doesnt really have useful trains :D
17:32:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> D: Good thing I started off with trucks
17:33:12  <V453000> well the cargo trains from original train set are normal
17:33:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Too many vehicles in game D: that's a huge dissapointment
17:33:20  <Jam35> 5 trucks max isn't much of a service :P
17:33:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x I wish I knew before that now im screwed...
17:33:58  <Jam35> why?
17:34:08  <coopserver> <Jack123610> My economy relies on 1 truck lol
17:34:19  <coopserver> <Jam35> build train then?!
17:34:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Dis 1 truck is the decider
17:34:25  <Sylf> korean set is there for SBahn
17:34:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> with 37,000? nope .-.
17:34:35  <V453000> ritez :)
17:34:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Come on little truck you can do it xD
17:35:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Why did you max it at 5 :C why not 50
17:35:50  <V453000> go trainz
17:36:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im dead lol, Going to have to take a loan out if I want to survive .-.
17:36:43  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has started a new company #4
17:36:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 500,000 loan I have no choice :c
17:37:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I don't even have any wood for the factory x-x
17:37:34  <V453000> Always use all of your loan
17:37:43  <V453000> the interest rate is WAY lower than what you can build with it
17:37:57  <V453000> and you have to build, no other way :)
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17:38:09  <coopserver> <Glubo> is there any time limit for returning the loan?
17:38:15  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I think im going to get oil to houses before I do anything
17:38:33  <Sylf> no time limit
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17:38:51  <Sylf> you only accrue interest, which is basically nothing
17:43:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im going to need a bigger railway for all this stuff later on .-.
17:46:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh trains are cheap :D
17:46:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I was expecting to be throwing 50,000 at them
17:48:12  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Got oil up :D I might survie this :P
17:49:36  <coopserver> <Glubo> i started with maize and fruit and probably it's not the best choice :)
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17:50:15  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Connecting all the stuff to get trains bringing the refinery to homes is going to be a pain
17:51:18  <Sylf> some stuff is made cheap for a reason
17:51:28  <Sylf> trains should be cheap in this game, esp on this server
17:51:43  <Sylf> that's why NUTS trains are cheap too
17:51:55  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I was hoping we would have more vehicles
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17:52:20  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Still it looks like I will survive on trains so I don't mind
17:52:53  <Sylf> yes, the default trains on arctic and tropic maps are kinda meh.
17:54:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh no you can't build long bridges xD that just made my railway more difficult :P
17:55:02  <Sylf> it's made so you don't hog multiple islands/continents
17:55:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Was just going to bridge over from the oil refinery :P
17:55:19  <Sylf> we like it when you stick to 1 small/medium area of map and build within that area
17:55:32  <Sylf> and not have everyone build on top of each other
17:55:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Trains aren't unloading :c code red
17:55:46  <Sylf> oil trains?
17:55:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> xD I put it on no unloading and wait for any full load
17:55:53  <Sylf> build station closer to the refinery
17:56:08  <Sylf> not all refinery industry tiles accept oil
17:56:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I didn't have it to unload :P
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17:56:50  <Sylf> even if you force unload, if the station doesn't accept oil, you'll be losing money
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17:57:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I think it accepts :P
17:57:13  <coopserver> <Jack123610> It gave me 17500 good nuff for me
17:58:23  <coopserver> <Sylf> oh hey, I forgot I still had this window open :P
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17:58:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I got so much oil near me
17:59:08  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Well its everwhere :P
17:59:16  <coopserver> <Sylf> get to work
17:59:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im not good with trains though thats the problem xD
17:59:27  <coopserver> <Sylf> connect more oils then
17:59:41  <coopserver> <Sylf> this server usually is all about trains
17:59:50  <coopserver> <Sylf> you'll learn to swim.
17:59:56  <coopserver> <Sylf> in rails.
18:01:38  <coopserver> <Glubo> is there a key to close all dialog windows at once? :)
18:01:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> del
18:02:05  <coopserver> <Sylf> shift-del to force close pinned windows too
18:02:07  <coopserver> <Glubo> thanks that's almost life saver :D
18:03:00  <coopserver> <Sylf> and you know you've spent too much time in ottd when you start reaching for del in other applications to close windows
18:03:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :P
18:03:24  <coopserver> <Glubo> :)
18:03:38  <coopserver> <Sylf> <- speaking from experience
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18:03:58  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hey
18:04:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> hii
18:04:33  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi Vinnie
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18:06:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> sylf does this train look good so far? its still missing a lot .-.
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18:06:38  <coopserver> <Sylf> don't connect such short line
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18:06:49  <coopserver> <Sylf> you can, but don't build 2 lines
18:06:59  <coopserver> *** happy tran  sport has joined
18:07:02  <coopserver> <Sylf> I assume you're talking about Yaizu
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18:07:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Yeah
18:07:29  <coopserver> *** happy tran  sport has joined company #3
18:07:32  <coopserver> <Sylf> also, have the water train's rails bridge over the oil line
18:07:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> So take it farther away?
18:07:49  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ok
18:09:03  <coopserver> <Sylf> If you take water to, for example, Komaki, then you'll be making some good dough to finance further building
18:09:04  <coopserver> <Vinnie> time for a good transport game instead of train fever
18:10:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Where is it :P
18:10:13  <coopserver> <Sylf> find it in the town list
18:10:15  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> how  things   going
18:10:26  <coopserver> *** Vinnie has started a new company #5
18:10:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok yeah ok I could to that
18:11:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Should I take the oil there also?
18:11:09  <coopserver> <Sylf> if komaki is too tough with that refinery, there are other water towers near there
18:11:23  <coopserver> <Sylf> if you build a station there, you could take both water and oil there
18:11:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok I will do that
18:11:34  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's not matter of "should"
18:11:45  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's just an option
18:11:54  <coopserver> <Jack123610> No I like the idea :P
18:12:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Now I can connect that third water also
18:12:54  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Would that line work? .-.
18:13:08  <coopserver> <Sylf> dunno yet
18:13:45  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Think that should be bigger for a main line?
18:13:53  <coopserver> <Sylf> at yaizu west, you're gonna have a collision without signals
18:14:13  <coopserver> <Sylf> not sure what you call a main line...
18:14:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> The line all the trains will go down to reach there stations
18:14:38  <coopserver> <Sylf> to us, main lines connect main stations to main stations (secondary industries, town drops etc)
18:15:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> This is going to be  failure lol I can tell already
18:15:46  <coopserver> <Vinnie> as i understand you got good help
18:16:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I can get all the help in the world lol im still an awful OTTD player :P
18:16:07  <coopserver> <Sylf> before you start worrying about the future, start placing signals
18:16:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok
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18:18:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> freakin lag... trying to get the train to stop
18:18:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Why I hate playing in the day .-.
18:20:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> This refinery is going to overflow with oil .-.
18:21:24  <coopserver> <Sylf> make it handle 20000000 litres of oil per day
18:21:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> per month*
18:22:14  <coopserver> <Sylf> if you take it to the point of 20000000 litres per day, I'd be damn impressed
18:22:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Getting it all out will be the problem
18:22:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Unless I jam the tracks with trains going to town
18:23:09  <happy_> dame  internet  is  slow  to  day
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18:23:32  <happy_> hi  Djanxy
18:23:39  <coopserver> <Djanxy> hi
18:23:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Hey
18:23:55  <happy_> how  things   Djanxy
18:24:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok got the track down just need signals :c no good with them
18:24:07  <coopserver> <Djanxy> im good, how are you happy
18:24:18  <happy_> good
18:24:39  <happy_> whont to be a team  Djanxy
18:25:20  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 76,000 left x-x went through that 500,000 in no time, haven't even got the money makers up yet
18:25:30  <coopserver> <Glubo> btw. are towns allowed to build roads?
18:26:00  <coopserver> <Djanxy> probably not gonna play much happy, just having a look - but maybe :)
18:26:10  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k
18:26:12  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> np
18:26:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> slyf?
18:26:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> advanced settings:economy:towns
18:26:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> answer
18:26:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh jam you will do :P
18:26:45  <coopserver> <Glubo> thx
18:26:49  <coopserver> <Jack123610> At komaki station would them signals work?
18:27:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> pbs is wrong side
18:27:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> or backwards
18:27:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> no
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18:28:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> so do I put it on other side?
18:28:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ah k
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18:34:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> cant build signals :C that or its lagging
18:34:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> estimated cost £0?
18:34:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> wut
18:34:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> shift does that
18:35:04  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh ok :P
18:41:57  <coopserver> <Glubo> lol, can't clone vehicle, there is too many vehicles in game
18:42:08  <coopserver> <Jack123610> only allowed 5
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18:43:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Would my signals work? :P
18:45:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> oops
18:45:28  <coopserver> <Jam35> no mail wagon?
18:45:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> oops is that bad?
18:45:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> mail wagon carries diamonds
18:45:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> :D
18:45:57  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I guess my signals will work
18:46:13  <coopserver> <Jam35> so script is er broken
18:46:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Good nuff for me
18:46:29  <coopserver> <Jam35> can't expand towns
18:46:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> only with 5 mail trucks
18:46:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> :P
18:46:46  <coopserver> <Glubo> armored boxcar can carry diamonds...
18:46:47  <coopserver> <Jack123610> why we need 50+
18:46:52  <coopserver> <Jam35> hm
18:47:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> might need to up that yes
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18:47:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> SYlf
18:47:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> Sylf
18:47:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :c If I get another oil train its going to be a tight fit waiting in that gap
18:49:12  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I think I got the trains stuck in depot :C
18:49:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> nvm they coming
18:50:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh did I do that signal wrong?
18:50:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> 3 stations like that
18:50:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> 4
18:50:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x
18:50:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Going to be a crash soon .-.
18:51:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> pbs looks towards platforms
18:52:43  <coopserver> <Sylf> yo yo Jam35
18:52:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi
18:52:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> no mail wagons ;)
18:52:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> or :)
18:53:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> sensible number of trucks?
18:53:29  <coopserver> <Sylf> oh
18:53:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> mail wagon refit is diamonds
18:53:48  <coopserver> <Jam35> can't be changed
18:54:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> does this mean new game? x-x
18:54:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> extra mail trucks is the only solution other than that
18:54:51  <coopserver> <Vinnie> increase the rv count
18:54:57  <coopserver> <Sylf> no monorail wagons?  really?
18:55:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> they are all diamonds
18:55:42  <coopserver> <Sylf> :D
18:55:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> let me check it again
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18:57:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Why is train 3 stuck?
18:57:05  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's working fine for me...
18:57:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Signals green
18:57:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> what do you see Vin?
18:57:31  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's not green, jack
18:57:49  <coopserver> <Sylf> the signal immediately in front of train 3 is red
18:58:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> why?
18:58:20  <coopserver> <Sylf> because train 7 is in that signal block
18:58:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> really? :(
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18:58:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I just broke it lol...
18:59:04  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Help mah trains
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18:59:19  <coopserver> <Sylf> that's the danger of flat level junctions
18:59:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> So have I broke that part for good?
18:59:44  <coopserver> <Sylf> you can fix it
18:59:50  <Jam35>
18:59:52  <coopserver> <Sylf> send train 9 to depot behind it
19:00:22  <coopserver> <Sylf> oh, the mail car...
19:00:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> It cant move :P
19:00:34  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Train 9 is stuck
19:00:57  <coopserver> <Sylf> turn train 9 around
19:00:59  <coopserver> <Sylf> send it to depot
19:01:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im sending them all to depots .-.
19:01:35  <coopserver> <Sylf> you have to click on turn-train-around button
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19:01:47  <coopserver> <Jack123610> oh :P
19:01:59  <coopserver> <Sylf> same with train 10
19:02:18  <coopserver> <Sylf> don't show PBS at this point
19:02:25  <coopserver> <Sylf> that'll only delay the grid lock
19:02:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Idk what im doing xD
19:03:05  <coopserver> <Sylf> use bridges or tunnels
19:03:13  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok
19:03:18  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's the only sensible solution
19:03:34  <coopserver> <Sylf> see the example
19:03:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Like dat?
19:03:53  <coopserver> <Sylf> no
19:03:55  <coopserver> <Sylf> only 1 bridge
19:04:06  <coopserver> <Sylf> wrong bridge
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19:04:14  <coopserver> <Sylf> look which way each lines are going
19:04:24  <coopserver> <Jack123610> now da train is stuck on the thing x-x
19:04:31  <coopserver> <Sylf> delete some signals
19:05:47  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Like that?
19:05:50  <coopserver> <Sylf> no
19:05:53  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x
19:05:57  <coopserver> <Sylf> did you actually look at the example?
19:06:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh its there
19:06:07  <coopserver> <Sylf> that Vinnie built
19:06:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Now I am
19:06:41  <coopserver> <Sylf> he has a tunnel example
19:06:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> but you can do the same with a bridge
19:06:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Going to do tunnels keep it simple follow exactly
19:07:11  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's more expensive
19:07:16  <coopserver> <Sylf> if you're tight with money
19:07:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I got 150,000 should be good
19:07:48  <coopserver> <Sylf> each terraform tile costs about 10% of your cash reserve
19:07:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> oh...
19:08:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> too late now :P
19:08:26  <coopserver> <Glubo> do you want some extra cash, Jack?
19:08:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I should be good, thanks
19:09:20  <coopserver> <Glubo> oh, hell I have built six trains with wrong wagons :D
19:10:18  <coopserver> <Sylf> hmmm
19:10:29  <coopserver> <Sylf> so we have nearly no option to haul mail...
19:10:37  <coopserver> <Sylf> until later date at least
19:11:03  <coopserver> <Vinnie> we will get a mail carriage later?
19:11:10  <coopserver> <Sylf> in about 1975
19:11:23  <coopserver> <Vinnie> its ok, someone will let it run overnight
19:12:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok I think most problems are fixed .-.
19:12:23  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Thanks everyone :P This is why I shouldn't be allowed OpenTTD
19:12:30  <coopserver> <Vinnie> oh let me explain the problem with your statement
19:12:47  <coopserver> <Vinnie> in openttd you don't fix problems, you relocate problems
19:12:56  <coopserver> <Sylf> oh
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19:13:01  <coopserver> <Sylf> we're getting philosophical
19:13:14  <coopserver> <Vinnie> weakest link my friend
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19:14:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok time to figure out how many trains I have for each station I lost track
19:14:10  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hmm can i make a profit !here to !here2
19:14:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> definitely, esp with station walking
19:15:38  <coopserver> <Vinnie> fuck star trek with teleporters i play a transport game
19:18:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im some how making money, GG
19:18:40  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I like dis map no huge mountains
19:21:42  <coopserver> <Vinnie> oh fuck,
19:21:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> my network is centered arround fukushima
19:23:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Is the loan even worth paying back?
19:24:23  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I think we will hit a new world before I pay back 500,000 off loan interest .-.
19:24:36  <coopserver> <Vinnie> depends do you mind waiting and doing nothing for  minutes to save 20k a year
19:24:57  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im only spending 300 on loan interest
19:27:16  <coopserver> <Sylf> fukushima daiichi was built in around 1970.  watch out.
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19:27:42  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I haven't seen what other people have done yet time to go look
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19:27:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Wow blue is doing good
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19:28:03  <coopserver> <Niko> hi
19:28:10  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hey
19:28:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Everyone has big empires apart from me :c
19:28:21  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi
19:28:28  <coopserver> <Vinnie> jack give it time
19:28:42  <coopserver> <Sylf> it only takes a few games of practice to know how to build fast on this server
19:29:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I got 560,000 I could probably do it, just don't know what to do .-.
19:29:12  <coopserver> <Sylf> you're playing with some of the best veterans here
19:29:32  <coopserver> <Vinnie> need some planning?
19:29:33  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Cool :P
19:29:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im going to get this refinery down to the other end
19:29:45  <coopserver> <Sylf> convert your copper truck to trains
19:29:55  <coopserver> <Sylf> and start hauling copper ore and rubber to that station
19:30:08  <coopserver> <Sylf> that's your second big station
19:30:44  <coopserver> *** Niko has started a new company #6
19:31:08  <coopserver> <Sylf> Jam35, have you done anything for PS new map yet?
19:36:48  <coopserver> <Vinnie> making Yaizu accept goods might take 30 years
19:37:52  <coopserver> <Sylf> you might be able to handle mail requirements with 5 trucks for now...
19:38:19  <coopserver> <Sylf> yaizu definitely is a bad choice for a goods drop though
19:38:56  <coopserver> <Sylf> shit
19:39:04  <coopserver> <Sylf> I found a spelling error...
19:39:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> D:
19:39:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Where?
19:39:26  <coopserver> <Sylf> Shiminoseki should be Shimonoseki
19:39:56  <coopserver> <Vinnie> if it is any consilation, i did not notice
19:40:01  <coopserver> <Sylf> :P
19:40:29  <coopserver> <Vinnie> then again im 20.000 km away from japan
19:40:45  <coopserver> <Sylf> this grf's been downloaded over 100k times, and not a single report... so...
19:40:48  <coopserver> <Sylf> it's ok for now
19:41:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> lol
19:42:08  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I posted a forum about I broke NewGRF aswell .-.
19:42:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> thread*
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19:44:04  <coopserver> <Vinnie> ehm
19:45:47  <coopserver> <Jack123610> When do the new trains arrive?
19:46:32  <coopserver> <Vinnie> Sylf, so you gonna make newgrf's aswell?
19:47:27  <coopserver> <Vinnie> 1955 says wiki
19:47:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Its 1955 now :D
19:47:45  <coopserver> <Vinnie> but not over yet
19:47:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> D: my goods train wont load with goods from refinery
19:48:00  <planetmaker> 1955...1957. There's randomness to it
19:48:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh der it goes
19:48:18  <planetmaker> unless you started the map <= 2 game years before
19:48:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh my refinery ran out of supplies :P
19:48:42  <coopserver> <Vinnie> no it needed oil to produce goods
19:48:49  <coopserver> <Vinnie> it made them once a drop came
19:48:55  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I know :P
19:49:13  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I obviously need to collect these closer ones for perm transport
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19:50:54  <coopserver> <Vinnie> how about fixing the deadlock first Jack123610?
19:51:12  <coopserver> <Jack123610> the wut?
19:51:23  <coopserver> <Vinnie> train 12 and 8
19:51:40  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x wut did they do now
19:51:58  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Damn it people
19:52:14  <coopserver> <Vinnie> they entered junction A and B at the same time
19:52:47  <coopserver> <Jack123610> There we go back in business
19:52:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> same thing that happend at C
19:53:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> its gone now
19:53:04  <coopserver> <Vinnie> happened*
19:53:15  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Does this mean my train track is bad?
19:53:18  <coopserver> <Vinnie> for now, it will happen again
19:53:44  <coopserver> <Vinnie> given that it will happen again i must say that the tracks are bad
19:53:50  <coopserver> <Jack123610> What could I do for a solution?
19:54:05  <coopserver> <Vinnie> C junction is the perfect soultion for the problem
19:54:16  <coopserver> <Vinnie> solution
19:54:38  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok time to figure out how to do that .-.
19:54:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> if you need help, just ask
19:55:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Should I bridge that track?
19:55:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> not bridge I mean tunnel
19:55:29  <coopserver> <Vinnie> yes
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19:55:44  <coopserver> <Vinnie> bridge and tunnel mean the same thing
19:55:54  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok :P
19:55:58  <coopserver> <thepower12> like this
19:56:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok
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19:58:41  <coopserver> <Jack123610> And same with other?
19:58:50  <coopserver> <Vinnie> yes please
20:00:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> nooo power :C
20:00:40  <Sylf> <Vinnie> Sylf, so you gonna make newgrf's aswell?   <--- what about me making newgrf?
20:00:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> nothing just interested
20:01:11  <Sylf> this town name grf is already mine
20:01:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Wait no my idea wont work lol what am I doing .-.
20:01:24  <coopserver> <Vinnie> yeah found that out
20:01:34  <coopserver> <Vinnie> jack t was
20:01:40  <Sylf> jack, you know your goods trains are losing money...
20:01:52  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Its ok
20:02:05  <V453000> Sylf: VINNIE MEANT REAL NEWGRFS :P
20:02:06  <V453000> :D
20:02:19  <Sylf> XD
20:02:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> meh 1200 don't reall care the others make 20-30000
20:02:21  <V453000> (:
20:02:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> really
20:02:40  <Sylf> I thought about a GRF so we can have separate grain and cattle farms...
20:02:52  <Sylf> something still new
20:02:57  <Sylf> simple*
20:03:05  <coopserver> <Glubo> oh, so the new train is slower and less powerfull :)
20:03:14  <V453000> industru code.
20:03:15  <Sylf> I made a newgrf so I could flip ukrs gec91
20:03:16  <V453000> not even once
20:03:20  <V453000> :)
20:03:31  <coopserver> <Jack123610> DAMN IT TRAIN YOU HAD TO BE DIFFICULT
20:03:36  <Sylf> anything so I don't have to draw
20:03:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> timing
20:04:16  <coopserver> <Vinnie> or build faster
20:04:32  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im making a mess lol xD
20:04:40  <V453000> Sylf: 3D IS YOUR FRIEND =D
20:05:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Would that work? .-.
20:05:07  <Sylf> anything I don't need to create any new graphics
20:05:22  <V453000> :(
20:05:48  <V453000> how about coding yeti? :P
20:06:10  <V453000> the project might actually die if nobody does that :D
20:06:17  <V453000> since I seem to be majorly failing
20:06:31  <coopserver> <Sylf> that alignment issue?
20:06:39  <V453000> yes
20:06:42  <V453000> one stupid issue
20:07:12  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok fixed my tracks :D
20:07:22  <coopserver> <Sylf> That means I need to read up on the actual nml specs!
20:07:28  <V453000> of course there are more things like making industries get boost when multiple cargoes are delivered, worker yard dependency on towns and food, towns growing with BDMT, ...
20:07:35  <coopserver> <Sylf> yeah
20:07:48  <coopserver> <Sylf> but I'll do much better with coding and logic part than drawing and rendering
20:07:49  <V453000> well, yeah, or just look at the code and see what is happening, check specs from there
20:07:54  <V453000> sure
20:08:01  <V453000> I can do the graphics 100%
20:08:10  <coopserver> <Sylf> yeah, I'll actually start reading the code
20:08:12  <V453000> but if you had plans to code something, I could really use any help
20:08:59  <V453000> the basic tests with sprites I had to do in the beginning I already did so I kind of know how it works and what sprites to supply / or how
20:09:11  <V453000> so the less I focus on coding now, the better for me, and for yeti
20:09:24  <coopserver> <Sylf> aye
20:10:10  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I confused myself with my own signals .-.
20:10:15  <coopserver> <Vinnie> YETI needs realism parameter
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20:10:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I done the signals wrong way round at
20:10:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ammagasaki
20:10:33  <coopserver> <V453000> wtf does realism parameter do :D
20:10:39  <coopserver> <Sylf> realism options 1) disabled 2) fuck realism
20:10:40  <coopserver> <Vinnie> each year the amount of YETI's would get lower close to 0
20:10:42  <coopserver> <V453000> disable the newgrf and remove it form system?
20:10:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> amagasaki*
20:10:59  <coopserver> <Vinnie> no yeti sightings no yeti workers
20:11:15  <coopserver> <V453000> yeti amount increases with invention of photoshop
20:11:16  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Wait no I didn't do the signals the wrong way round x-x
20:11:22  <coopserver> <V453000> yeti amount triples with invention of 3D
20:11:38  <coopserver> <Vinnie> or a supernatural parameter, explaining
20:11:46  <coopserver> <Sylf> realism option #2: replace food with booze
20:11:47  <coopserver> <Vinnie> i dont believe in yeti fairytales
20:11:54  <coopserver> <V453000> :))) Sylf
20:12:00  <coopserver> <Vinnie> and replce the word yeti with sasquatch
20:12:08  <coopserver> <V453000> sure
20:12:10  <coopserver> <V453000> nice shortcut
20:12:13  <coopserver> <V453000> SASQUATCH
20:12:25  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hillybilly mode
20:12:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> The new train is shitter than the first....
20:12:30  <coopserver> <V453000> Assingly Shit Quality Ultimate Annoying Title Cause Hell
20:12:32  <coopserver> <Vinnie> supply guns and ammo
20:13:11  <coopserver> <Sylf> nuclear powerplant disaster option
20:13:20  <coopserver> <V453000> that would be nice
20:13:36  <coopserver> <Vinnie> maybe -255 service rating in 250 blocks
20:13:55  <coopserver> <V453000> +100 death rating in 500 blocks
20:14:24  <coopserver> <Vinnie> im not sure if you can make a town smaller, i know bigger is possible with gamescript
20:14:28  <coopserver> <Sylf> radiation zone just like cimcity 2000
20:14:57  <coopserver> <V453000> I dont think you can make a town smaller, which is why I dont want yeti production directly linked to population
20:15:12  <coopserver> <V453000> linked with condition of having enough food is fine though
20:15:45  <coopserver> <Sylf> yeah, game script has expand town function, but not shrinktown
20:16:00  <coopserver> <Vinnie> but if you link that with town population its best to keep towns small
20:16:10  <coopserver> <V453000> it isnt Vinnie
20:16:21  <coopserver> <V453000> because if you have a small town, you get a small amount of yetis
20:16:28  <coopserver> <V453000> if you get a big town, you get a lot of yetis
20:16:37  <coopserver> <Vinnie> do we work with relations in % or relations in absolute numbers
20:16:45  <coopserver> <V453000> but small town needs 100 food to give you the 100 yetis, large town needs e.g. 2000 food to give you 1000 yetis
20:17:14  <coopserver> <V453000> if you dont have 2000 food, you are screwed
20:17:16  <coopserver> <Vinnie> that answers that
20:17:21  <coopserver> <V453000> -> overgrowing towns would not be the best idea
20:17:34  <coopserver> <V453000> but you could always trade BDMT for food then
20:17:46  <coopserver> <Vinnie> trade?
20:17:58  <coopserver> <Vinnie> two seperate chains
20:18:20  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
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20:18:31  <coopserver> <V453000> you pickup bdmt, drop it at a merchant, you get food
20:18:41  <coopserver> <V453000> -> no more town growth but you make sure you get your yetis
20:18:50  <coopserver> <V453000> (possibly more yetis if you deliver that much foodú
20:18:52  <coopserver> <V453000> )
20:19:00  <coopserver> <Vinnie> so only BMT grows towns
20:19:04  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
20:19:08  <coopserver> <Vinnie> i see
20:19:14  <coopserver> <V453000> in other words you can stop town growth, but get more from what you got
20:19:35  <coopserver> <V453000>
20:19:37  <coopserver> <V453000> this shows that
20:19:41  <coopserver> <Vinnie> you make a coding mess with all these relations :D
20:20:04  <coopserver> <V453000> I dont think it will be brutally hard to code actually
20:20:11  <coopserver> <V453000> each of the functions is in one industry
20:20:30  <coopserver> <V453000> the worker yard is a bit more complicated but other than that each thing in the game has one clear function
20:20:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I think my railway works now
20:22:14  <coopserver> <Vinnie> newgrf's have atlest the same options as gamescripts?
20:22:22  <coopserver> <Vinnie> + more ofcourse?
20:22:41  <coopserver> <V453000> each of them control things differently
20:23:04  <coopserver> <V453000> they can cooperate but I think their possibilities differ a lot
20:23:19  <coopserver> <V453000> I dont know much about GSs though
20:23:31  <coopserver> <Vinnie> very limited
20:23:44  <coopserver> <Vinnie> but i know the grow town command there
20:24:14  <coopserver> <Vinnie> but i cant recall any newgrf using  a grow town command so far
20:24:22  <coopserver> <Vinnie> so i doubt i that is possible
20:24:56  <coopserver> <V453000> idk if it can do that
20:26:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Where do I get wood for the factory? .-.
20:26:19  <coopserver> <Sylf> plant a mill
20:26:28  <coopserver> <Vinnie> ignore wood on topical maps is my advise
20:26:36  <coopserver> <Sylf> jack, see Saitama Valley
20:27:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> ok
20:29:49  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Nuuu I cant fit a bridge over this river x-x
20:30:07  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Time to terra-form some water
20:30:17  <coopserver> <Sylf> I don't think so.
20:30:30  <coopserver> <Vinnie> haha not even close
20:30:42  <coopserver> <Sylf> you need to see your jam first.
20:30:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> What is the max for bridges?
20:30:50  <coopserver> <Glubo> Jack, if you move Saintama Valley two tiles further from that junction, then one waiting leaving train won't block incoming train so there will be little less tendency to jam
20:30:51  <coopserver> <Sylf> probably 12
20:30:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> wait
20:31:07  <coopserver> <Jack123610> holy hell dat jam o-0
20:31:24  <coopserver> <Vinnie> Sylf: next time make canals same price as water terraform
20:31:39  <coopserver> <Sylf> yeah, I'm thinking about it.
20:31:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> So move the valley back 2 tiles?
20:31:54  <coopserver> <Sylf> build bridges
20:32:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> oh ok
20:32:05  <coopserver> <Glubo> it will little bit help but not solve that completely
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20:33:03  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x how do I fix this lol
20:33:05  <coopserver> <Vinnie> give train 9 the order to skip red light
20:33:14  <coopserver> <Vinnie> 3rd from top
20:33:45  <coopserver> <Vinnie> earlier you made junctions that prevented this
20:34:06  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I thought it would be ok xD I just see problems when they occur
20:34:24  <coopserver> <Vinnie> what if you leave tonight
20:34:25  <coopserver> <Sylf> don't ever build flat junctions in the future
20:34:44  <coopserver> <Vinnie> and then you come back and it stood still for 20 years
20:35:10  <coopserver> <Sylf> you need to stop the nearby trains first
20:35:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> There is too many trains to keep skipping xD
20:35:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> good idea
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20:36:08  <coopserver> <Sylf> back to code diving...
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20:36:34  <coopserver> <Vinnie> n+1 > n
20:36:38  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I'm probably doing it wrong aren't I? .-.
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20:36:59  <coopserver> <Vinnie> you build 2 tracks and already questioning yourself
20:37:11  <coopserver> <Jack123610> xD no faith in myself
20:37:46  <coopserver> <Glubo> Jack, this is not the best approach, but definetely can work (those two bridges)
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20:37:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im probably just making this worse for all I know .-.
20:38:09  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> Vinnie:   have  u  got a  minte
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20:38:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im going to get a bridge
20:38:23  <Sylf> too much distraction here :P
20:38:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> tunnel
20:38:27  <coopserver> <Vinnie> A0 to A1
20:38:36  <coopserver> <Vinnie> sure
20:38:43  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi   Maraxus
20:38:47  <coopserver> <Vinnie> B0 to B1
20:38:48  <coopserver> <Maraxus> hi
20:38:52  <coopserver> <Vinnie> C0 to C1
20:39:01  <coopserver> <Vinnie> D0 to D1 D2 D3
20:39:17  <coopserver> <Jack123610> o-0 ok den
20:40:26  <coopserver> <Vinnie> SLH01?
20:40:35  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> if  u  got  to  time Vinnie       see  my  sign  say slh  /01  and    move  this  to  slh /01    i  was  going to  doo it  but  ver  bad  internet    so i got  to  sume  back later
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20:41:10  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> be  back  soon
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20:41:44  <coopserver> <Jack123610> A1 is finished
20:42:30  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Improved A1 :P
20:44:51  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Damn you railway
20:45:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I don't like weird dip
20:46:19  <Jam35> Sylf: this is all so far :[17:55] <@Jam35> Started life as a stable map but how's this?:
20:47:22  <Sylf> that looks funky
20:47:49  <Sylf> very curious what kind of plans would pop up
20:48:15  <Jam35> islandy ones
20:48:54  <Sylf> like 1 secondary per island
20:49:47  <Sylf> reminds me of PSG 198, but we didn't have to cross land with that one
20:50:28  <Sylf> cross water*
20:51:10  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im losing so much money on this lol I need to speed up .-.
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20:53:48  <coopserver> <Jack123610> How can I connect D1 to D0 can someone help?
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20:54:20  <coopserver> <Vinnie> bridge X1 to X2
20:54:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Like that?
20:54:47  <coopserver> <Vinnie> sure
20:55:05  <coopserver> <Jack123610> And connect it onto D2?
20:55:19  <coopserver> <Vinnie> yes
20:55:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Now to get the signals on and I have no idea where to start lol
20:55:43  <coopserver> <Vinnie> now that entire junction below X1 is obsolete
20:56:04  <coopserver> <Jack123610> can you fix it then? before I lose all my money .-.
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20:56:23  <coopserver> <Vinnie> need to join your company for that
20:56:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> pass 123
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20:57:00  <coopserver> <Vinnie> there is only one way to signal now
20:57:13  <coopserver> <Vinnie> do you see?
20:57:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Yeah
20:58:31  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Thanks :D
20:58:34  <coopserver> <Vinnie> want to make it more smooth?
20:58:39  <coopserver> <Vinnie> thank Jam35 aswell
20:58:43  <coopserver> <Jack123610> If you want
20:58:52  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Thanks jam aswell :P
20:59:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> what did I do? :)
20:59:08  <coopserver> <Vinnie> X joins to Y, correct
20:59:19  <coopserver> <Vinnie> tought you joined this company
20:59:27  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Yes
20:59:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> not guilty
20:59:35  <coopserver> <Jack123610> X goes to Y
20:59:40  <coopserver> <Vinnie> is a straight line from X to Y the same
20:59:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> yes
20:59:53  <coopserver> <Vinnie> then why not a straight line
21:00:31  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Should I fix up near that refinery as well?
21:00:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> or is that ok?
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21:00:55  <coopserver> <Vinnie> best if fixed
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21:02:01  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Be back in a few min
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21:06:11  <coopserver> <Vinnie> better?
21:07:57  <happy_> thanks  vinnie   for  the slh
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21:09:07  <coopserver> <Jack123610> back
21:09:36  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Thanks vinnie and yes it is better :D
21:10:33  <coopserver> <Vinnie> do you also understand why people here advise you to use these kind of junction instead of the flat ones
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21:19:22  <Jam35>
21:19:25  <Jam35> SYlf
21:19:55  <Jam35> I have this much done
21:20:43  <Jam35> nearly there if you want to continue, I'm off to bed :)
21:20:58  <Sylf> kk
21:21:06  <Jam35> just needs trains
21:21:09  <Jam35> can't decide
21:21:14  <Jam35> and towns/industries
21:21:24  <Jam35> nuts i guess?
21:21:28  <Sylf> yeah
21:21:46  <Sylf> although it's better to add all grfs before we build maps
21:21:52  <Sylf> but it shouldn't hurt
21:22:02  <Jam35> I can do that now, sec
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21:22:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> back :P
21:22:39  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Keyboard stopped working so I had to restart then I went AFK .-.
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21:25:24  <Jam35> here we go:
21:25:32  <Jam35> I'll let you review etc
21:25:35  <Jam35> cya tomorrow
21:25:48  <happy_> k  gn  jam
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21:43:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> :c why to oil wells have to be prospect I want to spam dem
21:44:10  <coopserver> <Jack123610> why do*
21:47:21  <coopserver> <Jack123610> 4 million to raise 1 bit of sea? lol I will find another way to get resources
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21:47:45  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Da prices are a scam
21:47:59  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Lol the forest died anyway
21:48:00  <coopserver> <Glubo> yeah, terraforming and sea manipulation is pricy here :)
21:51:24  <coopserver> <Jack123610> moar busses
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22:00:48  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi   all  how  things  going
22:00:57  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Good trying to get all these things connected
22:01:46  <coopserver> <Glubo> hi, i just reached capacity of one-line at one place so i need to upgrade to LL-RR :(
22:02:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Idk what that it but with the sad face im going to say nuuuu why :C
22:02:26  <coopserver> <Jack123610> that is*
22:02:31  <coopserver> <thepower12> to much work;p
22:02:48  <coopserver> <Glubo> too much work and i am rather new to LL-RR thing
22:03:17  <coopserver> <thepower12> just watch blue
22:03:39  <coopserver> <thepower12> its not that hard if you got a exsample ingame
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22:16:31  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> need a  mor  trains  Jack123610  at  saitama valley
22:17:24  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh yeah idk where they all went :P thanks for telling me
22:17:32  <happy_> np
22:17:34  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Oh I forgot I stopped them
22:17:46  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I had a huge jam :P
22:18:37  <coopserver> <Jack123610> x-x why is there 2 refinery next to me now I don't like them :P
22:20:02  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Think my new train system would work?
22:20:28  <coopserver> <Jack123610> I have it connected to the wrong one :c
22:23:18  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Ok new train system is up :D
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22:42:00  <coopserver> <Glubo> it looks like i've done it :) i made my critical part two lanes in same direction, it is ugly but looks like working :D
22:43:09  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Does my new train look like it would work?
22:43:19  <coopserver> <Glubo> where?
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22:43:45  <coopserver> <Jack123610> near shiminoseki
22:44:46  <coopserver> <Glubo> there are no signals, but first impression is thet with right signals this could work
22:45:22  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Im no good with signals .-.
22:46:31  <coopserver> <Glubo> i think that if you place PBS everywhere it could work
22:46:48  <coopserver> <Glubo> *one-way PBS
22:46:56  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Should I wait till tomorrow for someone more experienced?
22:47:04  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Than me
22:47:05  <coopserver> <Glubo> maybe better idea :D
22:47:25  <coopserver> <Glubo> i am rather noob in comparison with others
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22:50:19  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Power
22:51:25  <coopserver> <Jack123610> Power are you any good with signals? .-.
22:51:44  <coopserver> <thepower12> average
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