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00:01:10 *** Jam35 is now known as Jam35_ 00:04:06 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (general timeout) 00:22:51 <coopserver> <Anson> mazth, with heavy traffic, double bridges should be synched ... 00:23:46 <coopserver> <Anson> right above train 92 00:25:32 <coopserver> <Anson> and the next double bridge is only an alternate path ... is that intended ? 00:26:37 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined company #1 00:28:17 <coopserver> <Anson> both A and B end up at C 00:28:28 <coopserver> <Mazth> on it :P 00:28:37 <coopserver> <Mazth> bhad to get the trafic flowing to clear up the entry 00:29:48 <coopserver> <Anson> as well as X and Y, which also end at C 00:32:03 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined spectators 00:32:50 <coopserver> <Anson> with the lag that i have, i can't build, but only watch ... even writing 5 signs took me 3 months :-( 00:33:07 <coopserver> <Mazth> terrible 00:33:40 <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> have you tried a tracert to the server to see if its a iso issue somewhere? 00:33:50 <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> err isp 00:34:15 <coopserver> <Anson> I'll watch TV now and sleep a bit to wake up in time in 4 hours ... in the evening (australian time), the new F1 season starts ... 00:34:58 <coopserver> <Anson> griff: it isn't ... i tested offline and had the same problems, also a little less severe 00:35:14 <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> bummer 00:36:33 <coopserver> <Anson> what are your computer specs when you can run ottd without major problems ? 00:37:12 <coopserver> <plonka> i7 920 @ 4 gig, 6 gig ddr3 ram and gtx 680 sli 00:37:30 <coopserver> <Mazth> mine a quite limited...even running win32 so only 3gb ram and an i5 unlocked 00:37:31 <coopserver> <Anson> my comp is 2 years old, quadcore 3.6 ghz, 8gb ram, and harddisk is an SSD 00:37:46 <coopserver> <plonka> ram,cpu,mosfets,chipset and gpus all underwater 00:37:50 <GriffinOneTwo> openttd is taking 6% of my cou & 400MB 00:38:23 <coopserver> <Mazth> lol quite the beast :P 00:38:35 <GriffinOneTwo> 8 core i7 2.4GHz & 12MB ram 00:38:54 <coopserver> <plonka> mine was when i bought it 00:38:57 <coopserver> <Mazth> ottd is still single core I believe 00:39:01 <coopserver> <plonka> showing its age now 00:39:20 <coopserver> <Anson> depending on ttest (8bpp, 32bpp, 400 trains, 1200++ trains) my ottd used 25% cpu (isn't that aone core at 100% ?) and 400 or 800 MB 00:39:24 <Sylf> 12MB? 00:39:27 <coopserver> <Mazth> mine should be acient now but I have no problems with it 00:39:39 <Sylf> sounds more like a cache size than ram size 00:39:50 <GriffinOneTwo> process says openttd has 9 threads running 00:40:15 <GriffinOneTwo> err 12 GB 00:41:01 <coopserver> <plonka> https://www.avforums.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2yts7f9.jpg&hash=6a1842a1a58dafac1a5d889d5a256c20 00:41:10 <Anson> very strange ... just checked with task manager and it says that ottd uses 25% cpu and only 130 MB ram ???? 00:41:13 <coopserver> <plonka> thats a phot6o of my rig 00:41:44 <Sylf> anson, you have 2 core with hyperthreading, or quad core with no HT? 00:42:01 <Anson> picture can't be viewed 00:43:04 <coopserver> <plonka> try this https://www.avforums.com/threads/get-your-rigs-out-for-the-lads-part-4.1668981/page-33#post-19586741 00:43:06 <Webster> Title: Get your RIGS out for the lads! - Part 4 | Page 33 | AVForums (at www.avforums.com) 00:43:30 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (Leaving) 00:44:34 <Anson> hehe, how much water does it use per gigaflop ? :-) 00:44:47 <coopserver> <plonka> lol 00:49:32 <Anson> sylf : AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor, 3.60 GHz, 8 GB ram, windows 7 (64 bit), AMD Radeon HD 6670, 500 GB SSD (half linux, half win7) 00:50:46 <Sylf> quad core single thread. right. 00:51:16 <Sylf> so if the heaviest part of the game, the path finder, can only use 1 core, the game can only utilize 25% of the CPU. 00:51:51 <GriffinOneTwo> maybe open ttd is using some code that is inefficient in AMD, but not in intel? Planetside 2 had that issue till the got it optimised for the PS4 which uses AMD processors 00:52:48 <Anson> strange effect ... same computer, old version 1.4.1 of ottd : game slows down when there are too many trains (1800+++) ... but now, it alternates between no lag at all and frozen .... ??? 00:54:34 <Sylf> is it the version difference? or the new grf difference? 00:54:48 <Sylf> with more newgrf using 32bit graphics 00:55:12 <Sylf> make sure your cache setting is adequate 00:55:16 <coopserver> <Mazth> I find it strange I seems to have lower hard ware specs but not so much of a problem 00:55:22 <coopserver> <Mazth> and running RAWR and NUTS 00:56:33 <Anson> i set values as suggestes by V ... http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/yeti/wiki/PlayGuide 00:58:10 <Sylf> don't look at those values. 00:58:13 <Sylf> check sprite_cache_size_px 00:58:33 <Sylf> and that's my doc 00:59:53 <Anson> sprite cache 512, max 512, size-px 384 (same problem with the default 128), and "8bpp-optimized" (improvement versus default of "blitter =", but still the same problem when there are some more trains) 01:00:17 <GriffinOneTwo> sprite_cache_size_px = 128 and no max cache ... entry 01:00:51 <Sylf> I don't think sprite_cache_size and max_sprite_cache_size are used anymore 01:01:13 <GriffinOneTwo> no sprite_cache_size = 512 or max for that matter 01:01:23 <Sylf> also, disable the extra zoom. 01:01:34 <Sylf> extra zoom eats up LOTS of cache. 01:02:48 <GriffinOneTwo> zoom min 0 max 5, don't see another zoom setting exceptdefault ? 01:03:02 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (general timeout) 01:03:30 <coopserver> *** (hykw)a has joined 01:03:48 <Anson> yes, same for me ... zoom 0..5 01:04:00 <Sylf> set zoom min to 2 01:04:08 <Sylf> that's the extra zoom 01:04:57 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 01:07:52 <coopserver> *** (hykw)a has left the game (Leaving) 01:07:56 <Sylf> ah, time for food 01:08:21 <Anson> have set min zoom to 2 and resterted ottd ... no lag at all for 3 minutes now ... I'll watch a bit longer 01:08:25 <Anson> thanks, sylf 01:09:31 <GriffinOneTwo> so, no looking at the grain in the textures for you 01:10:47 <Anson> i have used that zoom only to "look behind" some signs, no real need to have it enabled all the time 01:11:20 <Anson> running the game more smothly (or running it at all and not freezing all the time) is more important 01:11:25 <GriffinOneTwo> sign transparancy sould od for that 01:11:47 <GriffinOneTwo> sans typos ... should do ... 01:12:05 <Anson> yes ... using the mousewheel was a bit easier, but changing transparency is no problem either 01:15:00 <GriffinOneTwo> if that is a fix, it sould go into the general wiki, I'm sure others would benifit 01:16:26 <GriffinOneTwo> <https://wiki.openttd.org/Settings/Zoom>&/or <https://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Interface#Zoom_level_boundaries> 01:16:38 <Anson> my game is running smothly now for 10 minutes ... with all optimizations we spoke about above ... have to reduce some of them again to see whether the zoom alone would suffice 01:17:23 <GriffinOneTwo> it mentions zoom out issue there, but not zoom in, ... 01:18:20 <Sylf> also, you don't need to restart openttd to enable/disable extra zoom 01:18:29 <Sylf> you can change that setting in the advanced settings window 01:18:59 <Anson> if i set it to a value in ottd.cfg, i need to (re)start 01:19:19 <Sylf> you can just type set zoom_min=0 in the game's console 01:19:36 <Anson> ouch ... lag starts again :-( 01:20:05 <Sylf> zoom_min=0 -> 4x extra zoom 01:20:11 <Sylf> zoom_min=1 -> 2x extra zoom 01:20:19 <Sylf> zoom_min=2 -> no extra zoom 01:25:58 <coopserver> *** Mazth has joined spectators 01:26:04 <coopserver> *** Mazth has left the game (Leaving) 01:32:12 <Anson> the ratio of smoth and lag/freeze is a bit different now (longer intervals), but generally the same effect ... I'll be AFK until morning (F1 starts in 3.5 hours in australia :-) 01:34:58 <coopserver> *** GriffinOneTwo has left the game (Leaving) 01:36:39 <GriffinOneTwo> I've seen F1 in .au, @ surfers paradice from a balcony above the corse 01:41:08 <coopserver> *** Player has joined 01:41:09 <coopserver> Player: Please change your name before joining/starting a company. Use '!name <new name>' to do so. 01:41:10 <coopserver> *** Player has started a new company #7 01:41:11 <coopserver> Player: Please change your name before joining/starting a company. 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Use '!name <new name>' to do so. 19:39:40 <coopserver> *** Player has started a new company #15 19:39:41 <coopserver> Player: Please change your name before joining/starting a company. Use '!name <new name>' to do so. 19:39:42 <coopserver> *** Player has joined spectators 19:40:21 <coopserver> *** Player has left the game (Leaving) 19:46:23 *** Aziroshin has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:10:51 <coopserver> *** Merc_Rick has joined 20:12:55 <coopserver> *** Merc_Rick has left the game (Leaving) 22:06:10 <coopserver> *** fair has left the game (Leaving) 22:17:49 <coopserver> *** valis has joined 22:17:59 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi valis 22:18:04 <coopserver> <happy train sport> how things 22:18:05 <coopserver> <valis> hi 22:25:16 *** Anson has quit IRC 22:25:20 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:32:10 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 22:32:36 *** Jam35 is now known as Jam35_ 22:39:48 <coopserver> <valis> Good night, I go to sleep. 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