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00:01:47 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 00:01:47 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 00:18:55 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:22:09 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-208-237.pth-as1.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 00:22:43 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 00:23:25 * Born_Acorn is just checking. When you said "It's coming", I assumed any minute. So I stayed up! 00:26:38 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 00:28:45 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-30.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 00:30:11 <Tobin> "Newstations: implement support for variables 40, 41, 46, 47 and 49." <-- Yay! 00:32:59 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 00:34:00 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 00:44:02 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:51:21 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D9BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:53:37 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EAF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:32 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 01:09:17 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 01:17:09 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has quit ["bla"] 01:27:22 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 01:36:36 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-208-237.pth-as1.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:39:20 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.213.193] has joined #openttd 01:39:59 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:59:24 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 01:59:53 <black_Nightmare> any of you recall a replacement factory building? it was like old english town style 02:06:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever actually saw that 02:19:39 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.213.193] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:22:59 <black_Nightmare> found it finally .. meh 02:23:07 <black_Nightmare> was bornacorn's 02:27:45 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:29:20 *** ernie_hh [n=Kai_Step@c191169.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:29:52 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 02:40:10 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 02:57:13 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:17:09 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 03:32:06 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 03:41:42 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:42:11 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:51:43 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:06:55 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:18:53 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:27:22 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:07 *** hector3d [i=hector@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:38:15 *** hector3d [i=hector@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 05:13:53 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:35:22 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 05:53:22 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.148.86] has joined #openttd 06:20:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 06:31:08 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.148.86] has left #openttd ["Konversation terminated!"] 06:38:28 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:51:08 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:51:37 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 06:53:18 *** Skiddles^ [n=notme@cm29.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 07:01:54 <CIA-3> tron * r4764 /trunk/ (rail.h rail_map.h): Move some functions from rail.h to rail_map.h 07:02:52 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:26:19 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:30:49 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:32:41 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 07:35:57 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:37:24 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has joined #openttd 07:38:46 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 07:39:10 *** Skiddles^ [n=notme@cm29.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has left #openttd ["/me scuttles off"] 07:55:14 <CIA-3> tron * r4765 /trunk/ (6 files): Add GetTileMaxZ(), which returns the height of the highest corner of a tile, and use it to simplify the code in a few places 07:59:28 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:10:40 *** copperc0re [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 08:10:41 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10:49 <Tobin> peter1138: ping 08:12:12 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 08:18:17 <CIA-3> tron * r4766 /trunk/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: -Fix: Vehicles on a sloped tile under a bridge were affected by the bridge speed limit 08:28:20 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29:28 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-119-145.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:31:44 *** ernie_hh [n=Kai_Step@c191088.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 08:31:53 <ernie_hh> good morning :) 08:39:46 *** defiler88 [n=defiler8@p54A2BA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:39:58 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:40:21 <defiler88> hi# 08:40:30 <defiler88> ... 08:40:48 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 08:42:02 <defiler88> anyone knows what's up with the webserver ? no wiki, no nightlys, no nothing... 08:42:07 * roboman shower 08:45:10 *** Pulec|BAC [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 08:50:52 <defiler88> haaaallllloooo ? anyone awake ? 08:51:24 <Noldo> never! 08:51:38 <defiler88> ... 08:52:35 * ThePizzaKing is awake 08:52:39 <Noldo> Truelight will propably fix it when he notices it 08:55:49 <PandaMojo> defiler88: was down a couple days ago too 08:56:12 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B749EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:46 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:49 <peter1138> Tobin: yes? 09:02:19 <Tobin> peter1138: I've been playing with the 2cc stuff from your site and I think there's a bug with tender colours. 09:02:51 <Tobin> peter1138: It seems that the colour of tenders is determined by the base company colour not by the engine colour. 09:03:18 <peter1138> no, it's determined by wagon colour 09:03:25 <peter1138> (freight) 09:03:29 <peter1138> it is known about :) 09:03:36 <Tobin> Ah, ok then. 09:03:47 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04:37 <Tobin> It uses the engine colour in the purchase list though. 09:05:41 <peter1138> that's because the purchase list only shows one sprite 09:05:49 <peter1138> it's always been mocked up, heh 09:05:51 <Tobin> Ah. 09:06:00 <peter1138> hence the purchase list showed tenders before we supported it 09:06:31 <Tobin> Oh, and the automatic station layout stuff is very nifty, btw. 09:06:37 <Tobin> Makes sense. 09:07:01 <Tobin> 2x5 coal stations with jcindstaw.grf have a small bug though. 09:07:24 <Fujitsu> Remember that TrueLight will be away for the next few days... 09:07:25 <Tobin> And not being able to remove parts of stations can be a touch frustrating. 09:08:05 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:36 <peter1138> why can't you? 09:09:11 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:09:35 <Tobin> It pops up the message "Can't remove part of station..." if I try. 09:09:53 <peter1138> hmm 09:09:54 <Fujitsu> What's the latest newstations patch? 09:09:56 <peter1138> it works for me 09:10:12 <peter1138> heh, on my hdd :) 09:10:38 * roboman is back 09:11:11 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:11:21 <Fujitsu> Can I get a copy, peter1138? Please? :) 09:12:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B76312.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:18:23 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:18:47 <peter1138> not yet 09:18:50 <peter1138> still working on it 09:21:46 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 09:22:05 <MeusH> hey 09:23:23 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D6D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:30 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F713.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:23:34 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 09:24:06 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:24:07 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.208.144] has joined #openttd 09:25:07 <Fujitsu> OK, peter1138. 09:25:44 *** Pulec|BAC [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:38:37 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-239-46.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:38:41 <Sacro> morning all 09:39:33 <MeusH> hej¿e Sacro 09:40:01 <Sacro> MeusH: thats both foreign and UTF-8 :) neither i understand 09:42:18 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:42:33 <MeusH> that's something like heloo 09:43:00 <Sacro> hehe, heloo to you too :) 09:43:54 *** muddypaws [n=publunch@81-174-216-6.pth-as9.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:45:01 <muddypaws> miaow 09:45:37 * Fujitsu turns into a dog and chases muddypaws. 09:46:38 <peter1138> *sigh* 09:46:39 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.208.144] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 09:46:47 <peter1138> almost got custom ground sprites working properly 09:47:30 <roboman> hello 09:49:57 <Sacro> hey 09:50:44 * muddypaws loves publunch 09:50:51 *** muddypaws is now known as publunch 09:51:39 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has quit [] 09:53:55 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@27.126.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 09:54:50 <Fujitsu> Nice, peter1138. 10:04:07 <peter1138> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/39/scr99ic.jpg < that's nice 10:05:01 <Sacro> peter1138: implement it :) 10:09:15 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EAF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 10:10:43 <Fujitsu> Very nice... 10:10:52 <Fujitsu> How close are you to implementing things like that? 10:11:57 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 10:13:45 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:21:03 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:55 <peter1138> hmm? 10:24:07 <peter1138> that all works 10:24:18 <peter1138> or would do if the docks & shipyards were coded 10:25:48 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:26:00 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 10:26:25 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944464.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:27:29 * Vornicus eyes that 10:27:34 <Vornicus> ....insanity 10:28:12 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:28:35 <XeryusTC> peter1138! newstations! [/Born_Acron] 10:30:21 <XeryusTC> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24984 \o/ 10:30:51 <MeusH> wee 10:31:57 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 10:35:48 <Fujitsu> peter1138, good, I thought so. 10:35:58 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:36:55 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176126052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:45:01 <Sacro> XeryusTC: that needs comitting :) 10:45:28 <XeryusTC> yes 10:45:34 <XeryusTC> its only a one line patch :) 10:45:46 * Sacro looks around for devs 10:45:46 *** Cyberjunkie [i=cyberjun@221.128.186.49] has joined #openttd 10:46:00 <Sacro> not like its gonna take long to read 10:46:50 <XeryusTC> indeed 10:49:01 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 10:49:15 *** Cyberjunkie [i=cyberjun@221.128.186.49] has left #openttd [] 10:50:47 <MeusH> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24981&highlight= :P 10:51:15 <XeryusTC> MeusH: thats the second one in 3 days i encountered :P 10:51:26 <MeusH> second one 10:51:27 <MeusH> hmm 10:51:31 <MeusH> the plague 10:53:46 <Sacro> the all link to the same site :( 10:54:25 * Sacro wonders why quite a few of the links are in white... 10:54:26 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:54:52 <Zr40> Sacro: all orange here 10:54:58 <Mukke> lol sacro 10:55:03 <Zr40> maybe you visited one of the sites before? 10:55:40 <Sacro> Zr40: i was errrrm, researching 10:55:48 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 10:55:58 <Zr40> Sacro: that's what they all say ;) 10:56:14 <peter1138> ok, ground sprites hunky dory 10:56:30 <Sacro> peter1138: any chance you can merge http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24984 10:56:30 <MeusH> hunky! Congrats 10:56:40 <Sacro> peter1138: nice one :) 10:56:51 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-10668.bb.online.no] has quit ["edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on."] 10:57:21 <peter1138> 10KB to fix it o_O 10:57:57 <Sacro> one line of code 10:58:53 <Sacro> makes upgrading to elrails soo much easier 10:58:57 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4767 /trunk/ (6 files): - Newstations: fix loading / use of custom ground sprites 10:59:20 <Tobin> Sacro: Stop distracting him from newstations. :) 10:59:32 <Sacro> Tobin: fine... ill track down another dev 11:01:27 <Mukke> in one line, what is newstations all about? 11:02:21 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D6D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:02:33 <Tobin> Mukke: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ns7.png 11:03:14 <Sacro> damnit, i just lost "the game" :( 11:03:23 <Tobin> Not the best example though. 11:03:57 <Mukke> hm 11:04:12 <Mukke> are those buildings all part of the station? 11:04:16 <Mukke> what exactly is it good for? 11:04:28 <Tobin> It lets you have better looking stations. 11:05:01 <Mukke> at the expense of wasted tiles? doesn't look very advantageous to me 11:05:09 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F743.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:17 <Mukke> I mean, sometimes it can be hard enough to fit a normal station 11:05:25 <Tobin> You don't have to have the extra tiles peter1138 just put them in that station to show off. 11:05:27 <peter1138> Mukke: it doesn't offer any gameplay change 11:05:30 <peter1138> it is purely graphical 11:05:33 <Mukke> ok 11:05:37 <peter1138> but 11:05:38 <Mukke> thanks for the headsup 11:05:52 <peter1138> there are many newstations that will work like regular stations, just with different graphics 11:05:55 <Mukke> now, someone go work on brudges over diagonal track :) 11:06:10 <peter1138> Mukke: check out the bridge branch, and then come back 11:06:20 <Mukke> oh? 11:06:30 <Mukke> that, and cargo packets is what I want :) 11:06:47 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/bridge.png <-- from bridge branch 11:07:12 <Mukke> ah..... very very nice :) 11:07:23 <Mukke> what's the status on that? will it be in main soon? 11:07:42 <peter1138> how far is it tron? :) 11:08:10 <Mukke> hm.. wiki down? 11:09:01 <Tron> peter1138: SETBIT(dtss->image, 31); <--- s/31/TRANSPARENT_BIT/ 11:10:09 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-119-145.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:10:12 <Tron> peter1138: not that far 11:10:33 <Tron> peter1138: what's the bit 31 in ttdp? 11:10:39 <Tobin> Is there anything in particular that needs to be tested in the bridge branch? 11:10:42 <peter1138> argh, forgot the comments 11:10:58 <peter1138> bit 31 there means use default graphics 11:11:17 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-239-46.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:12:21 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-216-6.pth-as9.dial.plus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:12:28 <Tron> peter1138: i think in the long run a common model to handle this stuff is necessary. For me it looks like it's rather engrafted to the standard code. 11:13:12 <Tron> peter1138: is see 0x42D all over the place, does it have a special meaning? 11:13:15 <ernie_hh> is there a chance to steal the transportgoods from my opponent by building a parallel track with better values? or are good always distributet equal? 11:13:43 <Mukke> goods are distributed according to rating 11:13:52 <peter1138> Tron: only that the spec has it all over the place as an arbitrary offset 11:13:52 <Mukke> if you can maintain better rating you will get more goods 11:14:05 <Mukke> easiest way to achive better rating is to use newer vehicles 11:14:09 <peter1138> it just happens to be the first default platform sprite, but that really is irrelevant 11:14:37 <Mukke> anyways I am off 11:14:40 <Tron> peter1138: -extern uint16 _custom_sprites_base; <--- thank you very much. if you can get rid of this entierly i'd be very glad 11:15:41 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-212-134.pth-as5.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:47 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 11:15:49 <Tron> so there's no reason for this offset? 11:15:49 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 11:16:00 <peter1138> it's used in oldloader.c 11:16:06 <peter1138> i have no idea why 11:16:35 <Tron> i mean 0x42D 11:16:39 <peter1138> oh 11:17:07 <peter1138> no, i don't see the point. however, it's in the specs :/ 11:17:21 <Tron> *shrug* ok 11:17:53 <Tron> on the other hand, if you can find out the exact purpose for _custom_sprites_base in oldloader, would be good, too (: 11:18:12 <Tron> bonus points if you can remove it (; 11:19:14 <Tron> shouldn't the current vehicle sprite get recalculated on load anyway? 11:19:15 <peter1138> looks like however originally used that base for the station tiles got confused between sprites and spritesets. the spec isn't entirely clear, though 11:19:24 <peter1138> Tron: good point 11:19:48 <Tron> afk for 15 mins 11:19:57 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:28:59 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:30:34 *** qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:32:03 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EAF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:34:54 *** qball is now known as Qball 11:34:56 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 11:35:18 <Tobin> Heh. 11:35:35 <peter1138> lies 11:35:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> Tron: [05.05. 22:40] <Celestar> If Tron shows up, beat him into reading & approving http://www.fvfischer.de/morebridge_clear.diff 11:39:11 <Tron> peter1138: afaict AfterLoadVehicles() handles it 11:39:32 <peter1138> *nod* 11:39:49 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:40:56 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4768 /trunk/rail_gui.c: - Newstations: Add newstation selector GUI. The additions are only active if a newstation set is loaded, otherwise it will look the same. 11:41:46 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4769 /trunk/ (newgrf.c rail_cmd.c): - Newstations: add newstations ttdpatch flag 11:41:48 <peter1138> ARGH 11:41:59 <peter1138> didn't want to commit rail_cmd.c 11:42:44 <Born_Acorn> use the uncommitterinationator! 11:43:37 <peter1138> anyone who can compile, enjoy 11:43:45 <peter1138> my newstations patch is now 0KB 11:43:55 <Tron> what's that in rail_cmd.c? 11:43:56 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: cool :) 11:44:06 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: where is the newstations set? 11:44:34 <peter1138> Tron: allow converting from rail to elrail even with vehicles in the way. shouldn't have been there o_O 11:44:46 <Tron> to me it looks like a pretty complicated way to remove the " || IsPlainRailTile(tile)" in that line 11:45:10 * ThePizzaKing parties around NewStations 11:45:16 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list&cid=2 11:45:23 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: thanks 11:46:09 <Born_Acorn> newstations! 11:46:22 * Born_Acorn organises a party 11:46:23 <Fujitsu> ... 11:46:31 <Fujitsu> peter1138, did you just say that newstations was committed!? 11:46:34 * Fujitsu celebrates! 11:46:53 <Tron> peter1138: are you reverting the change to rail_cmd.c? 11:48:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> don't you dare :p 11:48:31 <peter1138> i should do 11:48:38 <peter1138> as it's irrelevant 11:48:54 <Born_Acorn> So newstations is now all in the trunk? 11:49:08 <peter1138> otoh, not sure what isplainrailtile() has got to do with it 11:49:31 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-10668.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:49:47 <Tron> it prevents updating of normal and signalled rail tiles while a vehicle is on that tile 11:49:51 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4770 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: - Revert unindented change to rail_cmd.c in r4769. 11:50:44 * Fujitsu updates from 4769 to 4770. 11:50:54 <peter1138> Tron: ok, i see it 11:52:16 <peter1138> right 11:52:27 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: apart from the bits i haven't written 11:53:10 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: how can I install the downloaded newstations grf? I put it into the newgrf dir, but still can't use it :/ 11:53:18 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: RTFM answer is good enough 11:53:29 <peter1138> put it in the [newgrf] section in openttd.cfg 11:53:45 <peter1138> with the files in data/ (or a subdir) 11:53:47 <MiHaMiX> ahh, manually? I believed the gui for that is working 11:53:55 <peter1138> nope, fraid not 11:53:59 <MiHaMiX> ok 11:54:00 <Tron> the gui does exactly nothing 11:54:12 <peter1138> i think the gui will probably be ripped out 11:54:22 <peter1138> and replaced with something that does, heh 11:54:31 <peter1138> besides, having it where it is is dumb 11:54:31 <Fujitsu> Ahh. 11:54:36 <Fujitsu> I was about to ask the same question. 11:54:41 <Fujitsu> True, peter1138. It's hidden. 11:54:44 <peter1138> it needs to set up before being in game, not during a game 11:54:49 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: so, [newgrf] 11:55:05 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: and what's the name of the directive, since I have no [newgrf] section 11:55:14 <peter1138> just the name of the file 11:55:18 <MiHaMiX> ahh 11:55:20 <peter1138> of they're in data, "file.grf" 11:55:20 <MiHaMiX> ok, thanks 11:55:24 <Qball> it seems to work quiet nicely 11:55:28 <peter1138> if it's in data/newgrf, "newgrf/file.grf" 11:55:31 <CIA-3> tron * r4771 /trunk/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: -Regression: It was possible to remove a bridge while a vehicle was on it 11:57:12 <MiHaMiX> dbg: [newstatsw.grf:4189][Error] VehicleMapSpriteGroup: Invalid special sprite length 6 (expected 7)! 11:57:33 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:54 * Fujitsu applauds peter1138. 11:58:10 <ledow> Tron: THANK YOU! The amount of times I've buggered up a game because a vehicle dropped into the water.... 12:00:00 <Tron> don't use a bleeding edge version if you want to avoid problems 12:00:08 <Qball> peter1138: realy nice job. 12:00:30 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: AI construction callback, unsupported 12:00:39 <peter1138> (it does that for vehicles too) 12:00:50 <Fujitsu> peter1138, is there any good reason for some things in newstats.grf being greyed out? Features yet to be written? 12:01:03 <peter1138> Tron: do use a bleeding edge version if you want to find bugs :) 12:01:10 <Fujitsu> Yes. 12:01:16 <ledow> There's too much in trunk compared to the latest stable that i want to use - I understand the risk but prefer major features over minor problems ;-) Plus it helps peoople fine wierd bugs 12:01:22 <peter1138> Fujitsu: yes, the grf author decided you need to wait until a later date before building those 12:01:37 <MeusH> thank you soo much! hail to peter1138 and Tron :) 12:01:52 <Fujitsu> peter1138, ahh. Thanks. 12:02:34 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: i think i found a graphic glitch 12:02:58 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: above non-track tiles I see the electric fence for electrified railways 12:03:24 <ledow> Is it just me or is there still some sort of bug where trains sometimes choose a platform that's already occupied and then end up blocking the entire entrance waiting at a red light? 12:03:53 <MeusH> electric fence? 12:04:00 <Tron> overhead wires, i guess 12:04:01 <MeusH> catenary you mean? 12:04:08 <MeusH> ohh 12:04:09 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: yes, overhead wires or catenary 12:05:03 <peter1138> heh, yes 12:05:23 <peter1138> just change the railtype for now ;) 12:05:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter1138: the station building list shows standard station at the end, but it is not selectable 12:05:49 <Qball> noticed that too 12:06:03 * ledow mutters to himself... just me then, I take it. 12:06:18 <Qball> ledow: I also have that from time to time 12:06:32 <Qball> mostly when a depot is inside a pre-signal block 12:06:42 <ledow> Yep... depots are definitely a factor 12:07:37 * Maedhros joins the newstations party 12:07:42 <ledow> It seems that the train coming in CHOOSES a platform which is green and then a microsecond later a train comes out of a depot and turns the light red before the train can get into the signal block. 12:07:43 <Maedhros> peter1138: great job :D 12:11:25 <peter1138> thanks 12:11:47 <ledow> I don't see a bugs.openttd.com entry for this signal/depot bug though. 12:12:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> hmz... the large station hall does not allow selecting 6 platforms :( 12:12:08 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-239-46.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:12:13 <Sacro> afternoon all 12:12:17 <peter1138> if you've got presignals around a junction with a depot in it, it's not a bug 12:13:00 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: you can build additional bits on to it though 12:13:06 <peter1138> so 6 platforms are possible 12:13:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes... 12:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it makes no sense... 12:13:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... it makes sense as in that TTD allowed only 4 platforms in general 12:13:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> so i understand where it comes from 12:14:43 <hylje> .o 12:14:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... are the "glass roof" tiles supposed to be black? 12:14:52 <hylje> i have a 8 platform station 12:15:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead of transparent, as the GUI suggests? 12:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... when i build a newgrf station over an existing station, the graphics does not change until i move the mouse curser away 12:16:51 <Sacro> how do i get newgrf stations? 12:17:23 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:17:40 <Fujitsu> Sacro, update to r4770, compile, get a GRF, enable it. 12:17:53 <Sacro> GRF == newstations? 12:18:03 <Born_Acorn> Yes¬ 12:18:03 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:18:04 <Born_Acorn> ! 12:18:20 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: now to find something else to bother peter1138 about :) 12:18:24 <Born_Acorn> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list&cid=2 has all the newstations grfs there are! 12:18:33 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! 2 Company colours! 12:18:37 <Sacro> i thought there only was one 12:18:49 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 12:18:57 <Sacro> peter1138: ECS! 12:19:01 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newhouses! newindustries! neweverything! 12:19:21 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:19:41 <Fujitsu> peter1138, the `Wood (un)loading station'(s) in the Industrial Set don't get their display changed when selected... (you can place them fine, but the text in the listbox doesn't go white) 12:20:12 <peter1138> silly fools using colour codes in the names 12:21:39 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 12:21:41 <hylje> are newstations nothing but eye candy 12:21:42 <Fujitsu> Hahh. THat might do it. 12:21:47 <Fujitsu> hylje, basically. 12:22:32 <peter1138> i'm sure everyone will get bored of them soon ;) 12:22:42 <Fujitsu> I doubt it :P 12:23:12 * Fujitsu wonders when 0.4.8 or whatever will be released. 12:23:20 <hylje> i think stations should have an efficiency attribute 12:23:23 * Fujitsu continues to thank peter1138. 12:23:33 <MeusH> Fujitsu: 0.4.8 will not have newstations 12:23:44 <Fujitsu> MeusH, I guessed as much. 12:24:24 <peter1138> hmm, right, what's next 12:24:33 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:24:38 <Sacro> newsounds! 12:24:45 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 12:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> i still think varying catchment radious would be appropriate for newstations... 12:25:11 <ledow> Bah... call me when I can plug in every single known GRF simultaneously and use all the graphics/buildings/vehicles at the same time, along with a Mars set from TTO... :-) 12:25:28 <Sacro> mars set for TTO? thought it was for TTDX 12:25:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> the mars graphics came with the World Editor addon to TT 12:26:10 <Sacro> ah, i never had that 12:26:13 <black_Nightmare> sacro...there's a mars set replacement for toyland climate :p 12:26:21 <black_Nightmare> turns it into something a bit way more fun ;) 12:26:35 <black_Nightmare> you can download it from george's site 12:26:44 <Sacro> f1 is cool in stereo :) 12:27:18 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:59 <black_Nightmare> hey glx ;) 12:31:31 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:31:37 <Tobin> peter1138: Do the opening and closing doors on stations work? I see to remember them depending on PBS. 12:31:40 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:32:25 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-212-134.pth-as5.dial.plus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:32:29 <Sacro> brb 12:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> you mean loading states? 12:32:32 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-239-46.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference"] 12:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> what do they have to do with PBS? 12:33:15 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:34:42 <Tobin> Eddi|zuHause2: No, IIRC some of the station types included doors that only opened if the platform was in use, i.e. there was a PBS path reserved through the tile. 12:35:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh... 12:35:09 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.216.39] has joined #openttd 12:36:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> shouldn't such a thing rather check wether a train STOPS at that station, rather than rushes through? 12:37:03 *** defiler88 [n=defiler8@p54A2BA9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 12:37:33 <Tobin> You want the door to open either way, and a stopped train on a platform still has a path reserved. 12:37:59 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-225-171.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:38:10 <Sacro> back 12:38:26 <black_Nightmare> wb sacro 12:39:15 <peter1138> Tobin: quite 12:39:21 <peter1138> Tobin: no, because we don't have PBS 12:39:33 <peter1138> Tobin: otoh, i don't think they ever got coded 12:39:37 <Tobin> So they are open all the time? 12:39:37 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: thanks 12:39:41 <Tobin> Ah, ok. 12:39:41 <Born_Acorn> I'm getting bashed. Cygwin says there is no make command! The wiki lied! 12:39:44 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:39:51 <Qball> install make 12:39:55 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: install make 12:40:07 <Sacro> should be installed by default though 12:40:49 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 12:41:11 <Fujitsu> Goodnight all. 12:41:13 <Born_Acorn> must have missed it 12:41:14 <Born_Acorn> bah. 12:41:17 <Fujitsu> Thanks, again, peter1138 :) 12:41:20 <MeusH> cya Fujitsu 12:42:09 <black_Nightmare> sacro..no problem..I already tried the mars set once...its interesting to say :p 12:42:09 <Fujitsu> Bye MeusH! 12:42:15 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:42:26 <black_Nightmare> including that the rails are replaced by what almost looks like "hovering tracks" 12:43:20 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 12:43:36 <Sacro> cool 12:45:36 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:45:40 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Success] 12:46:50 * Sacro might try installing cygwin and newstations after the f1 12:52:45 <Born_Acorn> I am a big boy now! 12:52:49 <Born_Acorn> I compiled! 12:54:07 <Sacro> :) 12:58:47 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4772 /trunk/ (newgrf_station.c newgrf_station.h): - Newstations: when allocating a custom station (via action 0x03) check if the station has already been allocated. (Fixes duplicate waypoints in newstatsw in non-temperate climate) 12:59:37 * peter1138 marks one off on his buglist 12:59:56 <MeusH> bare_tilesw.grf 12:59:56 <MeusH> basic_platformsw.grf 12:59:56 <MeusH> glassstationw.grf 12:59:56 <MeusH> jstatsw.grf 12:59:56 <MeusH> newstatsw.grf 12:59:57 <MeusH> pgs-counw.grf 12:59:59 <MeusH> pgs-freiw.grf 13:00:01 <MeusH> pgs-silvw.grf 13:00:03 <MeusH> pgs-subuw.grf 13:00:05 <MeusH> will this work? 13:00:09 <MeusH> gotta try it 13:01:03 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 13:01:28 <Sacro> MeusH: let us know :) 13:02:09 <MeusH> yess 13:02:17 <MeusH> I'll compile peter's fix and try it 13:02:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> what is pgs-*.grf? 13:02:33 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:02:38 <black_Nightmare> whats the 'pgs-' one if I may ask? 13:02:40 <Sacro> project generic stations 13:02:42 <black_Nightmare> lol eddi .. seem we have same Q 13:02:52 <black_Nightmare> ohhh yeah..I think I have one or two of these... *checks my newgrf list* 13:03:09 <Sacro> for linkage: http://www.as-st.com/ttd/stations/ 13:03:28 <black_Nightmare> yeah I have pgs-barew, pgs-platw, and pgs-statw here 13:03:32 <black_Nightmare> have many other station grf's tho 13:05:45 <peter1138> currently our absolute limit for newstations is around 8000 13:06:11 <peter1138> but we'd run out of sprites / file slots way before then 13:06:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... those generic stations screenshots do not look very pretty... 13:06:41 <Sacro> peter1138: 8191? 13:06:48 <peter1138> 8190 actually 13:06:57 <peter1138> as the default station and waypoint take 1 each 13:07:21 <peter1138> heh, that last commit fixes the duplicate "Wood (un)loading station" too :) 13:07:30 <Born_Acorn> This bug is still not fixed! 13:07:31 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=439954#439954 13:07:34 <Sacro> ah right, i was close, so its (16384 -2) / 2 13:07:48 <peter1138> no, 8192 - 2 13:08:27 <peter1138> however 13:08:39 <peter1138> that limit is only because we can only have a dropdown list with 32 items in it 13:10:26 <Qball> :D 13:10:52 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4773 /trunk/ (lang/english.txt rail_gui.c): - Newstations: add proper tooltips to the station builder window 13:11:27 * Sacro cant wait till 19:00 13:12:14 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 13:12:40 <peter1138> the canadian station set (beta iirc) works too, if you mess with the ttdpatch version number 13:14:10 <Sacro> cool 13:15:02 *** Zothar_ [n=chatzill@adsl-69-155-218-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:37 <peter1138> i'm off... 13:16:02 <peter1138> there's a newstations category on flyspray for reporting any bugs / unimplemented bits 13:16:12 <peter1138> back later 13:16:26 <Sacro> peter1138: goodbye 13:16:39 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.216.39] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 13:18:18 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 13:20:26 <Sacro> mmmm http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=7583 nice 13:21:07 <webfreakz> KUDr? 13:24:49 <MeusH> IT WORKS 13:24:51 <MeusH> it all works 13:24:54 <MeusH> thanks peter1138 13:25:06 <MeusH> I think there is a small bug thingy 13:25:14 <MeusH> also present with default stations 13:25:29 <MeusH> so, some stations prohibit you from making i.e. 1x1 13:25:33 <MeusH> they require 2x1 instead 13:25:38 <Qball> that isn't a bug is it? 13:25:53 <MeusH> but you can remove it and the station looks disorted 13:29:33 <Sacro> MeusH: i think he's gone out 13:34:44 <MeusH> I think the same :) 13:34:54 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=439961#439961 13:34:55 <Born_Acorn> woo. 13:36:32 <Qball> sweet 13:36:36 <Qball> esp the coal stack 13:36:46 <Sacro> that was quick :) 13:37:12 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-210-117.pth-as3.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 13:37:39 <Born_Acorn> I converted my latest game to newstations right away, of course! 13:38:02 <Sacro> nice one 13:45:01 <MeusH> Born_Acorn: what's the set's name? 13:45:05 <MeusH> I want these stations, too 13:45:15 <MeusH> i mean, more freight stations 13:46:24 * Sacro waits for Brianetta to come on, to request newstation grfs 13:46:25 <MeusH> http://www.as-st.com/ttd/stations/ doesn't seem to have some 13:46:41 <Born_Acorn> http://www.aegir.bur.st/ 13:46:48 <Born_Acorn> Under Transport Tycoob 13:46:49 <Born_Acorn> n 13:46:50 <Born_Acorn> -b 13:46:58 <Born_Acorn> then newgrfs 13:47:06 <Born_Acorn> then Station Sets 13:47:15 <Born_Acorn> then brickfreightw.GRF 13:48:22 * MeusH bows and grabs the grf 13:48:29 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has quit ["bye"] 13:49:18 <Qball> stations are "animated" 13:49:19 <Qball> nice 13:49:53 <Born_Acorn> Michael Bluncks passenger stations fill with passengers. 13:50:36 <Sacro> oooh nice, Born_Acorn: does that pile of coal get bigger? 13:51:32 <Born_Acorn> Not yet. 13:51:35 <Born_Acorn> *yet* 13:51:37 <Born_Acorn> :p 13:51:51 <Born_Acorn> I still have to draw that. 13:53:50 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn! newstations! 13:53:57 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 13:54:48 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: newstations! 13:54:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:55:12 <XeryusTC> newstations are finally finished? :D 13:57:37 <Sacro> there may be some bugs to squash, but yeah 13:58:46 <MeusH> everybody: newstations! 13:58:50 <MeusH> \o/ woohoo 13:59:15 <Sacro> \o/ /o\ \o/ 13:59:34 * XeryusTC woohoos a thousand times :D:D:D:D 13:59:44 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:00:14 <XeryusTC> KUDr: can you sync yapf to the trunk? 14:01:00 <XeryusTC> oh wait 14:01:04 <XeryusTC> i can do that myself :) 14:01:11 <XeryusTC> (i hope) 14:01:19 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8152D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:03:40 <ector--> 2>.\rail_gui.c(692) : error C2220: warning treated as error - no 'object' file generated 14:03:40 <ector--> 2>.\rail_gui.c(692) : warning C4018: '<' : signed/unsigned mismatch 14:04:09 <Sacro> ector--: what OTTD version, OS and compilor? 14:04:28 <XeryusTC> thats MSVC 14:04:29 <ector--> vs2005, latest trunk out of svn 14:04:48 <ector--> just fyi basically 14:04:51 <ector--> easy to kludge 14:07:00 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-108.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 14:08:29 <Sacro> hmm, i wonder whose line that is 14:08:50 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:09:51 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8152D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:14:45 <Sacro> http://www.yarukinoki.net/flash/pendulumeca/ 14:14:46 <Born_Acorn> Somebody make a thread about newstations to increase interest! 14:15:53 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:16:18 <MeusH> thanks Sacro! 14:16:23 <MeusH> amazing game 14:16:28 <MeusH> Born_Acorn: make a thread! 14:16:36 <MeusH> called "peter1138: newstations" :D 14:16:39 <XeryusTC> Born_Acorn: why dont you do it yourself? 14:17:07 * XeryusTC crosses his fingers 14:17:15 <Born_Acorn> I will! 14:17:16 <Born_Acorn> noy. 14:17:20 <Born_Acorn> now. 14:17:22 <XeryusTC> hopefully it compiles 14:17:30 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 14:17:35 <MeusH> Sacro! new record! -28 meters :D 14:17:36 <Born_Acorn> Closer to nightly time. 14:18:03 <MeusH> I remember having fun with worms world party jumping like that on the rope 14:18:08 <Sacro> MeusH: err, HOW? my highest is 524 14:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://as-st.com/ttd/newusa/download.html -- for industrial stations 14:18:33 <XeryusTC> Sacro: MeusH: is that some kind of yeti game 1? 14:18:51 <Sacro> XeryusTC: nope, its rope swinging - a la spiderman 14:19:03 <XeryusTC> ok 14:22:11 <MeusH> Sacro: just jump the left side instead of right :) 14:22:13 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Success] 14:22:55 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:24:52 <Sacro> MeusH: i can only get -26 14:24:55 <Qball> this is weird 14:25:04 <Qball> trains only "unload" one carage 14:25:33 <XeryusTC> damnit, my merging didn't work :( 14:26:17 <Qball> wth 14:27:02 <Sacro> Qball: what have you done? 14:27:06 <MeusH> hmm 14:27:07 <ln-> carage? 14:27:14 <Sacro> carrige 14:27:20 <MeusH> <XeryusTC> Sacro: MeusH: is that some kind of yeti game 1? <== I don't know 14:27:26 <MeusH> I saw many yeti games 14:27:35 <MeusH> but none of them featured rope swinging IIRC 14:27:36 <Sacro> nah its a robot not a yeti 14:27:38 <MeusH> brb 14:28:14 <XeryusTC> yeti game 1 is the one where you needed to hit a bird with a bat 14:28:27 <Qball> Sacro: hmm not sure. 14:28:35 <Qball> Sacro: aah nvm 14:28:59 <MeusH> XeryusTC: ohh, I remember 14:29:03 <MeusH> it's not that kind of game 14:30:18 <MeusH> Sacro: the screen doesn't move well 14:30:27 <MeusH> and I've got problems with noticing the robot 14:30:40 <MeusH> I don't know whether it is far away at the right, or above 14:31:01 <MeusH> the screen should follow the robot IMO 14:31:14 <MeusH> it sticks to one position and doesn't move any further sometimes 14:32:02 <MeusH> 420 for me 14:32:04 <MeusH> brb 14:32:10 <Sacro> yeah, when he goes too high, it'd be nice to have a height indicator too 14:32:17 <Sacro> ok :) mines still 524 14:34:09 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 14:34:34 *** C-Otto [i=cotto@c-otto.de] has quit ["leaving"] 14:36:05 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-210-117.pth-as3.dial.plus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:41:59 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has left #openttd [] 14:43:21 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=439997#439997 14:44:41 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-212-51.pth-as5.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:03 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has joined #openttd 14:46:49 <peter1138> hm, so 14:47:13 <peter1138> MeusH: not sure how to handle the 'removing a part breaks the layout' thing 14:47:36 <peter1138> i'm not sure if ttdp even supports doing that 14:47:41 <peter1138> (it may since irregular stations) 14:47:55 <Qball> it requires some more indepth info about the station 14:48:45 <MeusH> peter1138: this is just cosmetic disadvantage 14:48:50 <MeusH> and probably unfixable 14:48:55 <MeusH> so never mind that 14:48:56 <MeusH> brb 14:49:04 * XeryusTC crosses his fingers again 14:49:13 <peter1138> it is fixable, if we remember every individually built part 14:53:40 <XeryusTC> w00t, newstations :D 14:53:57 * XeryusTC gives peter1138 an unlimited amount of beers :D 14:54:49 <Qball> well peter can trow that party now, he got enough beer 14:56:46 <peter1138> 22\o/ 14:56:50 <peter1138> er 14:56:51 <peter1138> -22 14:56:51 <peter1138> :) 14:57:21 <Sacro> peter1138: my link? 14:57:52 <peter1138> ? 14:58:06 <Sacro> n/m 14:59:41 <XeryusTC> peter1138: there are some station types unselectable, why is that? 14:59:48 <peter1138> oh, the pendulum 14:59:57 <peter1138> XeryusTC: date, usually 15:00:07 <XeryusTC> peter1138: i suspected that 15:01:08 <peter1138> 252 m 15:01:09 <peter1138> hmm 15:01:19 <peter1138> bit less than you sacro :( 15:01:44 <glx> peter1138: I like the fact station are reverted to default if grf is disabled :) 15:01:53 <Tron> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/155 <--- does anybody have a problem with this savegame? i don't 15:02:32 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:03:01 <peter1138> o_O 15:03:13 <peter1138> epiphany saves the .sav as a .exe... wtf? 15:04:02 <Sacro> ff doesnt even give it an extension 15:04:30 <Sacro> it knows it as an octet/stream 15:04:35 <glx> Tron: it doesn't crash for me with latest rev 15:05:31 <peter1138> guess their config might be useful 15:06:58 <Tron> it does neither with HEAD nor with 0.4.7 as stated in the report 15:07:06 <peter1138> glx: they persist, even if you save the game without the grfs loaded 15:07:49 <peter1138> when playing network games though, all station grfs must be in the same order for each user 15:07:56 <peter1138> (but that's the same for any grf, really) 15:08:01 <glx> as usual :) 15:08:49 <peter1138> hmm 15:09:02 <peter1138> i wonder if tile height changes should count against station extent? 15:09:47 <Sacro> to stop multi level stations? 15:10:10 <peter1138> well, it might improve their appearance 15:10:16 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B8020A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:10:23 <peter1138> like putting fences on the edge 15:10:27 <peter1138> (for some) 15:11:54 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4774 /branch/yapf/ (Makefile yapf/unittest/unittest.cpp): 15:11:54 <CIA-3> [YAPF] Fix: unittest broken on morphos. Fixed by removing stl::list for now. Stl 15:11:54 <CIA-3> uses C++ bool which is in conflict with openttd bool. To fix it correctly we'll 15:11:54 <CIA-3> probably need ottd bool compatible with C++ bool (size 4 on morphos/PPC). Looks 15:11:54 <CIA-3> more like BIG_ENDIAN issue since on Intel CPU openttd works with 'typedef 15:11:57 <CIA-3> unsigned int bool' but on morphos/PPC not. 15:12:51 * peter1138 tries it 15:12:56 <peter1138> (it's only a two-liner 15:12:58 <peter1138> ) 15:13:21 *** ProfFrin1 [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:15:30 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:17 <peter1138> hmm, need to account for the foundation 15:16:33 <Sacro> lol, yeah 15:17:52 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:17:54 *** ProfFrin1 is now known as Prof_Frink 15:18:30 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B8020A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:19:52 <peter1138> GetTileMaxZ() 15:25:05 <peter1138> Tron: 154 is what you've just fixed, yes? 15:25:20 <Tron> ? 15:25:28 <peter1138> FS#154 -- Destroying bridge with vehicles on top 15:25:59 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 15:26:21 <Tron> probably 15:27:54 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:29:35 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8152D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 15:32:26 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8152D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Success] 15:38:12 <KUDr> peter1138: "rail_gui.c(692) : warning C4018: '<' : signed/unsigned mismatch" <-- MSVC 15:38:35 <Tron> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/155 <--- something is fishy with crash.sav: look at the trees above the snowline 15:40:28 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-212-51.pth-as5.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41:44 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:41:56 <peter1138> climate been changed? 15:42:10 <MeusH> Tron: maybye some newgrf is needed? 15:42:14 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:35 <MeusH> or it utilizes "snow in temperate" patch? 15:42:38 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:42:41 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-209-245.pth-as2.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:55 <peter1138> strange signal layouts 15:47:31 <XeryusTC> if snow in temperate is needed you would also see the snow when you dont have the patch 15:47:40 <Sacro> what newgrf do i need for the bottom right station? http://www.tt-forums.net/files/ns4_186.png 15:48:13 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 15:48:26 <peter1138> jcindstaw.grf 15:48:28 <XeryusTC> industries 15:48:34 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 15:48:42 <XeryusTC> its the grain station from that set 15:48:57 * XeryusTC basicly download all the newstations from grf-crawler :P 15:51:28 <Sacro> XeryusTC: then create a zip, with your [newgrf] in a text file, then dcc :) 15:51:49 <MeusH> Tron, peter1138: notice strange bridge near the city of Dunding 15:51:57 <XeryusTC> Sacro: i've about 20 grfs loaded, which arent all newstations 15:52:30 <Qball> so? 15:52:32 <Qball> just dcc it 15:52:41 <Tron> MeusH: what exactly means "near"? 15:52:53 <Sacro> :) 15:53:02 <Sacro> i use UKRS too 15:53:11 * Sacro wants to kill bobingabout 15:53:34 <XeryusTC> Sacro: it would be easier to just download them all 15:53:42 <glx> MeusH: tube bridge? 15:53:48 <MeusH> Tron: north-westbound 15:53:52 <MeusH> there is a tube bridge 15:53:58 <MeusH> and something strange next to it 15:54:08 <peter1138> that's a bug in combroadw.grf 15:54:16 <MeusH> oh, okay 15:54:18 <Qball> Sacro: what is stopping you 15:54:21 <Tron> MeusH: tile number? 15:54:44 <glx> 2E8C 15:54:51 <MeusH> 0x358D 15:55:06 <MeusH> 141x53 15:55:07 <Sacro> Qball: killing him? its sunday, theres a lack of busses 15:55:30 <XeryusTC> peter1138: there is a problem if i use the "Coal unloader" station from that industries set 15:55:34 <Tron> that's an empty tile 15:56:01 <MeusH> but as peter1138 said, this is bug related to combroadw.grf 15:56:06 <MeusH> sorry, sill me 15:56:11 <Tron> ok 15:56:17 <MeusH> I should have disabled newgrfs 15:56:20 <XeryusTC> peter1138: the first style is facing the wrong direction, but it is accessable for trains 15:56:27 <Qball> Sacro: to bad 15:56:43 <MeusH> Tron: do you have any ideas on trees above the snowline? 15:57:04 <peter1138> XeryusTC: what size station? 15:57:06 <Tron> yes i have, it's fixed 15:57:28 <Tron> nothing serious, the problem in this save will solve by itself over time 15:57:32 <XeryusTC> peter1138: i use a 12x3 station, but it seems to happen from 4x3 15:58:03 <peter1138> hmm. 15:58:37 <XeryusTC> other stations seem to work ok (from that set at least) 16:04:36 <glx> peter1138: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/Fudston%20Transport,%2024th%20Dec%201963.png <-- don't know if it's a bug from pgs-counw.grf 16:06:33 <MeusH> you mean the oversized building? 16:08:17 <glx> I mean the building on the track, and the wrong building 16:12:30 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/Fudston%20Transport,%2020th%20Dec%201963.png <-- wrong building is indeed a passenger building 16:14:40 <Sacro> glx: isnt that a custom bridge icon? 16:15:11 <glx> where? 16:15:38 <MeusH> glx: construction toolbar 16:15:41 <MeusH> Sacro: yes it is 16:16:07 <glx> pb_viaduct.grf yes :) 16:18:55 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@27.126.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 16:18:57 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:10 <Sacro> glx: i have that installed, but it hasnt changed mine 16:19:31 <MeusH> combined road set? 16:19:36 <MeusH> Purno's new bridges? 16:19:41 <glx> yes combroad 16:20:03 <MeusH> this one contains new bridges, too 16:22:44 <Sacro> ah nice 16:27:38 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-209-245.pth-as2.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:30:26 *** tokai|mdlx is now known as tokai 16:34:20 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4775 /trunk/rail_gui.c: - Newstations: allow clicking on any part of the station class dropdown to bring up the list, instead of just the button (thanks tron) 16:34:32 * Celestar has returned. 16:35:06 <Celestar> peter1138: I've done some more specs about bridge stuff that we need. Will show around some doc tomorrow (RFC) 16:35:15 <peter1138> ok 16:37:12 <Celestar> (which would include things like maximum bridge height as well) 16:38:18 <Celestar> brb loo 16:39:44 <Celestar> so. 16:39:55 <Celestar> any comments on the bridge modifications? 16:42:06 <CIA-3> tron * r4776 /branch/bridge/ (76 files in 8 dirs): Sync with trunk up to r4775 16:42:18 <Celestar> BAH 16:42:32 <Celestar> trooooooon 16:42:44 <MeusH> Celestar: is it possible that bridges get obsolete at given time? 16:42:46 <Celestar> :P 16:42:53 <Celestar> MeusH: yes I am thinking of this. 16:42:59 <MeusH> also, is it possible for bridges to have custom height limit? 16:43:08 <Celestar> Tron: ouch :P 16:43:14 <Tron> ? 16:43:31 <Celestar> causes some conflicts 16:43:35 <MeusH> this way, we can have the highest bridges available later in the game, which would be far more realistic 16:43:36 * Celestar goes updating his stuff 16:44:16 <Sacro> yeah, but why is that realistic? 16:44:25 <Sacro> see Roman Aquaducts etc? 16:44:45 <MeusH> yeah, but no trains go on these 16:44:58 <MeusH> and aquaducts are not 200 meters high 16:45:04 <Sacro> well what about Isambard Kingdom Brunell? 16:45:18 <MeusH> however, some bridges nowdays are that high 16:47:07 <Celestar> Tron: conflicts solved :) 16:48:00 <Celestar> Tron: peter1138: Darkvater: on the long run, will we want bridges of non-diagonal type or some with signals/junctions/whatever? 16:48:43 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.212.126] has joined #openttd 16:48:58 <peter1138> that brings a whole new level of pathfinder changes, heh 16:49:03 <Celestar> yes it does. 16:49:14 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:49:16 <Celestar> something like eis_os is planning (or however he is called) 16:49:52 <MeusH> Sacro: so what about him? 16:50:07 <Tron> you could add a second map layer 16:50:24 <Celestar> map layers ... we've been there haven't we? 16:50:38 <MeusH> Tron: it would require more than one map layers, if you want more than one bridge over other 16:50:39 <Tron> a second, not arbitrary 16:50:49 <Tron> MeusH: no, really? 16:50:51 <MeusH> at least that's what I think 16:51:15 <MeusH> if we want say underground level, ground level and two bridges over it, it would require four layers 16:51:26 <MeusH> but I think you're right and I don't know something :) 16:51:36 <Sacro> MeusH: didnt he build high bridges? 16:51:57 <MeusH> yes he did 16:52:00 <Tron> given that the average bridges graphics is as high as half the max altitude of the map (i.e. 8 height levels) i think multiple bridges above each other doesn't make much sense 16:52:03 <MeusH> but I meant much higher 16:52:34 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:54:07 <Celestar> to have really usable crossing bridges, we need new sprites. 16:54:12 <Celestar> PROPER new sprites 16:55:53 <Celestar> Darkvater: you there? 16:56:26 <MeusH> Celestar: IIRC it is planned that 32bpp bridges will utilize different drawing alghoritm 16:56:43 <peter1138> and who's planned that? heh 16:56:44 <Celestar> modifying the drawing algo to something sane is no problem. 16:56:51 <Celestar> the problem is that we need proper sprites. 16:56:52 <MeusH> Alltaken? 16:57:14 <MeusH> the vertical parts of the bridges would be drawn just like fences around railway 16:57:26 <MeusH> so there would be no problem with i.e. junctions on bridges 16:57:43 <MeusH> as there would be no vertical parts between two railway tracks 16:58:26 <Tron> vertical parts? 16:58:29 <Tron> pillars? 16:58:42 *** ihope [n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:00 <peter1138> Celestar: why is that a problem? 16:59:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> [07.05. 18:47] <MeusH> and aquaducts are not 200 meters high <<- the gölschtalviaduct: length: 574m height: 78m built: 1846-51 http://www.bildmaschine.de/scripts/detailansicht/frame_detail.php?bildid=18823 16:59:09 <MeusH> these vertical parts above bridge surface 16:59:12 *** ihope [n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 16:59:18 <Celestar> peter1138: because someone needs to draw them :) 16:59:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> largest brickstone bridge in the world 16:59:22 <peter1138> actually the main problem i see is that bridges are 8 pixels high, and so are vehicles 16:59:27 <MeusH> assuming pillars are belowe bridge surface 16:59:40 <peter1138> that's makes drawing something decent tricky 16:59:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> limiting bridge height does not make sense 16:59:53 <peter1138> -'s 17:00:01 <Sacro> just style and materials, and strength 17:00:09 <Celestar> peter1138: vehicles are not 8 pixels high afaik 17:00:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> (that is a train bridge btw 17:00:34 <peter1138> 3d box model-wise 17:00:42 <peter1138> maybe more... 17:01:11 <Tron> BBs of vehicles are 6 high 17:01:57 <Celestar> proper bridges WOULD work fine afaik 17:05:16 <peter1138> ah 17:05:22 <peter1138> i found my old newnewbridges code 17:06:01 <Sacro> has nightly been done yet? or is it 19:00 BST? 17:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> it is 20:00 CEST 17:06:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> in an hour 17:07:32 * Sacro waits... and watches the simpsons 17:08:15 <Tron> peter1138: newnewbridges? 17:08:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> we need a lot more bridge types 17:08:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> and much larger bridges 17:09:05 <Celestar> I'm up to 32 bridges types in my diff (= 17:09:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> like longer suspension distances 17:09:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> or the above mentioned gölschtalviaduct ;) 17:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> i was always impressed by that bridge as a child 17:10:13 <peter1138> Tron: fiddling with the newgrf resolver code to allow dynamic variations, and the like 17:10:33 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: I agree with MUCH longer suspension distances. 17:10:49 <peter1138> (and making things like longer suspension distances easier) 17:12:07 <Sacro> and signals on bridges 17:12:16 <Celestar> that's planned as well 17:12:34 <Celestar> but we'll finally need to enlarge the map array. 17:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, according to KUDr, PBS would make signals on bridges pretty obsolete 17:13:11 <Celestar> that is correct. 17:13:23 <Celestar> (ultra-high-speed trains don't have signals anyway) 17:14:15 <Celestar> but adding m7 and m8 shouldn't be much of a problem, should it? ;) 17:21:34 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:24:55 <peter1138> hope not 17:26:55 *** publunch [n=publunch@81.174.212.126] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:28:22 * Sacro waits for the nightly... 17:31:03 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:37:25 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:38 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:37:41 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 17:38:05 <XeryusTC> hi all 17:38:10 <Noldo> hi 17:38:10 <Celestar> is it a BAD sign that I know by heart that "must demolish bridge first" is STR_5007 ? 17:38:27 <hylje> you must demolish bridge first ! 17:38:54 <peter1138> heh 17:39:02 <Sacro> Celestar: probably, its like knowing the reg plate for the USS Enterprisee 17:39:21 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 17:40:00 <XeryusTC> Born_Acorn: Download! Nightly! In! 20! Minutes! 17:40:39 <Born_Acorn> I! know! 17:40:49 <XeryusTC> Ok! 17:40:51 <Born_Acorn> I! compiled! the! source! earlier! 17:40:56 <XeryusTC> Ok! 17:41:08 <hylje> O 17:43:08 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4777 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: moving warning message about feature callbacks above station code and change minimum length for action 3 from 7 to 6 bytes. 17:43:44 <peter1138> (error message relegated to a warning (that you don't normally see) that states what the issue is) 17:45:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> gnah... mini_IN has way too many conflicts... 17:45:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> did richk mention when he comes back? 17:45:54 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: 2 weeks 17:47:38 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-216-245.pth-as9.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:57 <Celestar> hopefully some of is stuff is committed till then. 17:49:54 <glx> I didn't tried mini_IN but I think main conflict is caused by pbs 17:50:46 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has joined #openttd 17:50:51 <Celestar> note to self: compile after source code modification might be helpful 17:53:24 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.14] has joined #openttd 17:53:24 <Celestar> peter1138: NICE work on newstations \o/ 17:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, main conflicts are aircraft things 17:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> that are put into trunk meanwhile 17:53:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> usually only differs in comments and stuff 17:53:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> but creates merge conflicts all over the place 17:54:08 <UnderBuilder> hi all and an applause for the coder! 17:54:21 <UnderBuilder> (peter1138) 17:55:18 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: but these can be solved, pbs can't because no free bits in map for stations 17:55:30 <XeryusTC> peter1138: there are three problems with newstations: 17:55:48 <Sacro> you have 1 minute to commit them 17:55:49 <XeryusTC> 1. if the name of the station is bigger then the selecter it doesnt highlight when it is selected 17:55:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but those are not merge conflicts, but functionality conflicts... SVN does not even notice that ;) 17:56:47 <XeryusTC> 2. stations without a name dont have a name in the list, it would be nicer if it was just named "unnamed station x" or "station x" 17:56:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 17:56:59 <Celestar> heyo Darkvater 17:57:30 <XeryusTC> 3. some of the station tiles are bigger then the the normal tiles and overlap the text in the select gui 17:57:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> i managed to resolve all conflicts... now try to compile ;) 17:57:45 *** gryphAway is now known as gryph 17:58:25 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: but I think you should remove all pbs stuff if you don't want problems when playing :) 17:58:46 <Sacro> nah, it'll be interesting 17:58:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> let's address that problem if we manage to get there ;) 17:58:59 <Sacro> surely it'll only affect track tiles anyway? 17:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> only station tiles 17:59:39 <Sacro> yeah, where you have a newstation in a pbs block 17:59:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> right... 18:00:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i can't get that aircraft stuff to compile 18:00:10 <Sacro> i personally dont, i only use them on junctions, so surely the wouldnt affect each other? 18:00:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... if you have junction-station-junction, the station is a PBS block, too 18:00:51 <Sacro> gui client compiled... 18:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> not sure how junction-head station works 18:01:08 <Sacro> should i be worried that nothing else is there peoples? 18:01:43 <Sacro> ah, win32 now there 18:02:07 <peter1138> XeryusTC: 1 is not true. 1 happens when the name of the station has the colour code for black in it 18:02:18 <peter1138> 2) which set? :) 18:02:49 <peter1138> 3) can't see how to clip, i'm afraid. last time i used ttdp, it overflowed into the game viewport 18:03:58 <peter1138> mb nicely provides faux sprites just for the gui 18:04:40 <XeryusTC> 2. some set named "Suburban" in game, it is from pgs-subuw.grf 18:04:56 <Celestar> bbl 18:05:00 <peter1138> hmm, the last one 18:05:02 <Celestar> cu 18:05:18 <peter1138> iirc that set wasn't really finished 18:05:21 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:08:55 <Sacro> w00t Brianetta 18:09:54 <Brianetta> rargh 18:10:02 <Brianetta> I am no longer a KDE user 18:10:05 <Brianetta> After 5 years 18:10:09 <Brianetta> I have returned to Gnome 18:10:15 <Brianetta> and OMG it's WEIRD 18:10:26 <Born_Acorn> In Soviet Russia, Gnome returns to you. 18:11:07 <Sacro> im a KDE user, but i do like gnome... 18:11:49 <Brianetta> Just not sure what to make of the (lack of) clipboard manager 18:11:53 <Brianetta> I miss klipper 18:12:04 <Sacro> cant you run it? 18:12:18 <Brianetta> klipper runs in Gnome OK, but it starts a load of KDE services in the background 18:12:25 <Brianetta> and I can hear them chugging away 18:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> aircraft_cmd.c: In function `CmdBuildAircraft': 18:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> aircraft_cmd.c:334: error: `_heli_rotor_sprite' undeclared (first use in this fu 18:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> nction) 18:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> anybody suggestions on how to solve that? 18:14:28 <Sacro> declare it 18:14:48 <peter1138> remove the changes 18:15:38 <peter1138> most of that has been committed 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> grr... 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> main_gui.c:677: error: conflicting types for 'DrawPlayerIcon' 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> main_gui.c:57: error: previous declaration of 'DrawPlayerIcon' was here 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> main_gui.c:677: error: conflicting types for 'DrawPlayerIcon' 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> main_gui.c:57: error: previous declaration of 'DrawPlayerIcon' was here 18:17:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe i should stop trying... 18:18:45 <Brianetta> peter1138: Is newstations ready for a nightly tonight? 18:19:09 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: they're already in trunk :D 18:19:32 <Brianetta> OK 18:19:57 <Brianetta> Which newstations set is the one Pikka showed on his site? 18:21:03 <Sacro> not sure, just looking now 18:21:05 *** NARS [i=NULL@213-205-70-209.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 18:21:19 <XeryusTC> what's pikka's site again? 18:21:34 <Brianetta> um 18:21:42 <Brianetta> ppcis.org/nightly and click 18:22:55 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: the set goes under the name "Platforms", i'll check my cfg file 18:23:01 <Sacro> http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/ukrs/index.htm 18:23:12 <peter1138> newstatsw 18:23:19 <XeryusTC> newstatsw.grf 18:23:31 <XeryusTC> peter1138 was faster 18:23:45 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:37 * Sacro hands peter1138 a biscuit 18:31:14 <Darkvater> wow guys I did miss a lot today :) 18:31:25 <Darkvater> peter1138's been on a roll ^^ 18:32:37 <XeryusTC> peter1138 is everyones favorite dev now :+ 18:34:27 <Darkvater> T_T 18:34:32 <Darkvater> and what about me? :) 18:34:38 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 18:35:20 <Darkvater> hi Celestar (if you're around) 18:36:41 <Brianetta> Darkvater is everybody's favourite temporartily retired dev 18:37:00 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24991&highlight= < hmm, peter's hail thread 18:37:05 <Darkvater> thank you Brianetta :) 18:37:30 <Darkvater> although I am the one with the faithful followers. KUDr and Belugas_Gone ^ 18:38:28 <Darkvater> rail_gui.c: In function `StationBuildWndProc': 18:38:28 <Darkvater> rail_gui.c:692: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned 18:39:16 <ln-> http://www.yarukinoki.net/flash/pendulumeca/ 18:42:56 <ernie_hh> .oO( would be nice, if the openttd daemon would generate a rss-feed to inform you about important thinks happening while offline ;) ) 18:46:17 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-216-245.pth-as9.dial.plus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:51:06 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-211-146.pth-as4.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:52:12 *** gryph [n=gryph@130.225.245.182] has quit [] 18:52:48 <Sacro> ln-: already posted by me :) 18:53:04 <Sacro> record currently 524 (also me) 18:53:32 <ln-> my negative record is -33 18:53:46 <Sacro> ah, MeusH got -26, i got -24 18:55:18 <MeusH> now I've got +426 18:55:22 <MeusH> but I'll get better soon 18:56:05 <MeusH> 490 18:57:00 <MeusH> 512 and got too long rope so I felt 18:57:03 <ln-> 2 people reported getting over 1000 18:57:11 <MeusH> Sacro: I noticed "level up" 18:57:19 <MeusH> what's in the next level? more speed? 18:57:30 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:51 <Sacro> i dunno, i died 24 in 19:04:55 <ledow> 645 19:05:47 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has joined #openttd 19:06:12 <vrak> 711 19:08:12 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176097062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:08:53 <Ihmemies> wtf is the point 19:08:58 <Sacro> peter1138: you around? 19:09:03 <peter1138> maybe 19:09:09 <MeusH> Ihmemies: to jump as far as possible 19:09:32 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:09:36 <Darkvater> peter1138: unsigned warning in rail_gui.c 19:09:37 <Ihmemies> right 19:09:41 <Ihmemies> hmm 19:09:43 <Ihmemies> the camera sucks 19:09:45 <peter1138> Darkvater: i know 19:09:45 <Sacro> peter1138: is there a way to have the train move into a buffer stop? to allow for an extra 3/8 length carridge (ukrs brake van) 19:09:47 <Ihmemies> can I do anything about it? 19:09:54 <peter1138> Sacro: no 19:09:55 <Darkvater> k 19:10:24 <Ihmemies> i give up 19:10:30 <vrak> 1496 :/ 19:10:34 <Ihmemies> i want to play the game, not to fight vs. a camera 19:10:42 <peter1138> camera? 19:10:58 <Ihmemies> my guy is always somewhere else than in the camera screen 19:11:04 <Ihmemies> somewhere... no idea 19:11:06 <Ihmemies> and then I die 19:11:17 <Ihmemies> and I can't see forward :P 19:11:19 <vrak> the problems begin when the guy gets ahead of it 19:11:34 <Sacro> peter1138: http://www.yarukinoki.net/flash/pendulumeca/ 19:11:45 <Ihmemies> the camera should just be fixed to the guy's center 19:11:56 <Ihmemies> like in all proper games! anyways, i shall be quiet 19:15:08 <MeusH> Ihmemies: I've had this problem 19:15:12 <MeusH> but I got used to it 19:15:39 <Sacro> peter1138: how do you use car parks, flat and glass roofs? newstatsw.grf 19:15:55 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16:55 <MeusH> Sacro: I think you just place it 19:17:00 <MeusH> like a platform 19:17:05 <MeusH> sometimes you need to drag 19:17:35 <Sacro> its blanked out 19:18:14 <Sacro> unless its only after a certain year 19:18:44 <MeusH> yes, I noticed glass roofs are blanked out 19:19:08 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:20:30 <MeusH> glass roof is really nice 19:20:36 <MeusH> it works later in the game 19:22:49 <Sacro> ah right 19:23:14 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176126052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:23:50 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:24:04 <black_Nightmare> *takes a gun and shoots brianetta's isp's servers* 19:24:15 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: Try reading ppcis.org/nightly 19:24:18 <black_Nightmare> there sacro :p 19:24:32 <black_Nightmare> hmm brianetta..one moment 19:24:43 <Brianetta> You're desyncing because you don't have the same newgrf set 19:25:09 <Sacro> i need a "dont show trees" patch 19:26:10 <hylje> Sacro: click x 19:26:10 <MeusH> Sacro! You already have it 19:26:12 <MeusH> the X patch :D 19:26:48 <black_Nightmare> hmm brianetta..when did newstatsw.grf come in? 19:26:53 <black_Nightmare> I don't recall noticing that there before 19:27:05 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: today :D 19:27:27 * Sacro shudders - bobingabout has joined 19:27:46 <black_Nightmare> that figures, what is it for anyhow? 19:28:51 <black_Nightmare> ? :p 19:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> Brianetta: i guess you should have changed the password :) 19:31:13 <Sacro> yeah, i was thinking that too 19:31:18 <Brianetta> Stations, black_Nightmare 19:31:25 <Sacro> only 5 desyncs so far though 19:31:52 <Brianetta> Which one's bobingabout? 19:31:53 <black_Nightmare> oh ok brianetta...finally :p 19:32:15 <Scia> why should it desync anyway? 19:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> because stations do all kind of random effects and other changes 19:32:50 <Brianetta> Scia: It has no way of knowing the newgrfs are different until they behave differently 19:33:02 <Scia> ok so it isn't just graphical changes :) 19:35:09 <peter1138> nope 19:35:22 <Brianetta> peter1138: Is there an invisibe station? 19:35:33 <Sacro> Brianetta: tash 19:35:40 <peter1138> yes 19:35:43 <Brianetta> Sacro: He's been on before 19:35:45 <Scia> plain station tiles you mean Brianetta ? 19:35:53 <peter1138> i've got two 19:35:55 <Sacro> Brianetta: void 19:35:59 <Brianetta> Yeah - could be very interesting with bog, irregular ones 19:36:00 <peter1138> "Bare Tracks" and "Bare Ground" 19:36:09 * Sacro wishes his trains would pull up to the buffers :( 19:36:10 <Brianetta> er, big 19:36:29 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:36:30 <peter1138> Sacro: the spec only says the tile is blocked 19:36:42 <Brianetta> Sacro: Trains never pull up to buffers 19:36:46 <peter1138> not how far it's blocked 19:37:03 * peter1138 ponders a solution 19:37:19 <Sacro> hmm, it'd look nicer if they did, rather than just stopping before it 19:37:20 <peter1138> don't include carriage with no cargo capacity in the 'slow loading down' thing 19:37:41 <Brianetta> Sacro: Sign of a driver who brakes too little, too late 19:39:00 <Darkvater> yaay 19:39:01 <Darkvater> May 11, 2006 19:39:01 <Darkvater> SUSE Linux 10.1 Final Release 19:39:04 <Brianetta> So, are there any interesting stations, or is it just these grey ones? 19:39:07 <Scia> peter1138: it is a nice patch, I think it deserves a news head on the OTTD page :) 19:39:08 * Darkvater installs new system next weekend 19:39:15 <Brianetta> Darkvater: I just ditched Suse for Fedora 19:39:19 <Sacro> Brianetta: yeah true 19:39:25 <Brianetta> after 5 years 19:39:26 <Darkvater> I don't like fedora 19:39:42 <Darkvater> i tried fc3 last year and it SUCKED with a capital SUCKED 19:39:43 <Brianetta> I liek Suse, but I don't like yast 19:39:48 <MeusH> I used to have fc4 19:39:55 <Maedhros> Brianetta: there are some slightly more interesting ones if you run passenger services :) 19:39:58 <MeusH> it was my first linux and I liked it 19:39:59 <Brianetta> Helen has FC4, I have FC5 19:40:03 <MeusH> but now I'll have ubuntu 19:40:11 <MeusH> which seems to be better than fc4 19:40:33 <Darkvater> ugh ubuntu was just horrible 19:40:36 <Brianetta> So um 19:40:45 <Darkvater> it was all the way back to stupid newb-winxp feeling 19:40:55 <Sacro> Brianetta: could do with PGS 19:41:11 <Scia> Brianetta: what does rachel run? :) 19:41:19 <Sacro> i tried FC4, and ubuntu, didnt like gnome much 19:41:28 <Brianetta> http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/ukrs/industries.htm 19:41:36 <Brianetta> Where do these stations come from? 19:41:39 <MeusH> Sacro: but there is KDE for ubuntu, isn't it? 19:41:47 <Brianetta> Scia: rachel funs 0.4.7 vanilla 19:42:01 <Brianetta> MeusH: No, that's kubuntu 19:42:08 <Sacro> MeusH: i didnt like the package management, or sudo 19:42:17 <Brianetta> What's PGS? 19:42:26 <Scia> Brianetta: I think it is from the usset? 19:42:36 <Sacro> Project Generic Stations - yeah i think so too Scia 19:43:05 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/overhang.diff 19:43:09 <Brianetta> Scia: It's running alongside UKRS 19:43:22 <peter1138> ^^ should let brake vans / ETDs not incur penalty 19:44:09 <Scia> Brianetta: I know, but the stationset that belongs to the usset is a seperate grf 19:44:17 <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/edubuntu are the same thing with different defaults 19:44:47 <MeusH> so no KDE for me? AFAIK Ubuntu bases on Debian 19:44:49 <Brianetta> Right 19:45:10 <Brianetta> Over the course of this game, I want suggestions for an interesting set of station newgrfs for the next game. 19:45:12 <peter1138> http://www.as-st.com/ttd/newusa/index.html 19:45:59 <Prof_Frink> MeusH: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop for full kde'age, or just get the kde packages manually 19:46:32 <black_Nightmare> well brianetta...not sure I got a station suggestion but I do have another suggestion if you mind :p 19:46:42 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:47:34 <Scia> Brianetta: I was a little bit wrong :P : http://www.as-st.com/ttd/stations/index.html 19:47:48 <MeusH> Prof_Frink, oh, so may I just apt-get the KDE for ubuntu? 19:47:59 <MeusH> or it would be better if I have installed kubuntu 19:49:40 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-211-146.pth-as4.dial.plus.net] has quit [No route to host] 19:50:13 <Darkvater> peter1138: did the US set guys forgot to make normal thumbnails or something for the industry-window? 19:50:21 <peter1138> looks like it 19:50:25 <Darkvater> :s 19:50:34 <peter1138> oh, the toronto union station :D 19:50:38 <peter1138> i had an old usstatsw :/ 19:50:39 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:03 <Darkvater> what's up with some of the names not ligthing up as white? 19:51:32 <peter1138> the names have black colour codes in them o_O 19:51:35 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-214-202.pth-as7.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:47 <Darkvater> :s 19:51:56 <Sacro> peter1138: ETD? 19:52:00 <Darkvater> we should filter the colour codes? :) 19:52:00 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:52:15 <peter1138> end of train device 19:52:26 <peter1138> Darkvater: for station names, yes, i think so 19:52:35 <Sacro> peter1138: will you commit that diff? and the elrail patch too? 19:52:42 <black_Nightmare> brianetta? 19:52:49 <Brianetta> yes? 19:53:30 <Darkvater> :s 19:53:54 <Darkvater> anyone else has that the mouse becomes VERY jumpty and no accurate under linux? 19:54:04 <Darkvater> it's like it has a zillion dustbalss in it 19:54:06 <Darkvater> but 19:54:12 <Darkvater> 1. it is a laser mouse 19:54:13 <Darkvater> and 19:54:18 <Darkvater> 2. it works perfectly in windows 19:54:20 <Sacro> Darkvater: yeah, me 19:55:00 <Darkvater> very, very annoying. If sus 10.1 does not solve this I'm back to windows-land 19:56:14 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...one second me trying find website again to show you 19:56:22 <MeusH> wow, laser mouse 19:56:31 <MeusH> DV: I've got smiliar issue, but with sound 19:56:45 <MeusH> all the music was like all the cables were covered with rust 19:56:52 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:56:56 <Darkvater> yeah I have that as well 19:57:11 <Darkvater> again, windows works perefctly and passing the sound with spdif through to my decoder also 19:57:30 <Brianetta> Darkvater: My mouse is jumpy and inaccurate in Linux since FC5, and only when running OpenTTD 19:57:37 <Brianetta> The game is sluggish ): 19:57:48 <MeusH> windows is just good for audio/video/gamepads/usb devices 19:57:54 <MeusH> linux seems to be more a work tool 19:57:59 <black_Nightmare> ok brianetta....think I got most links...mind if I ramble off a few grf's you could consider? :-) 19:58:21 <Brianetta> State their cases, too 19:58:23 <MeusH> configuring linux to have UT2004 in it is a pain 19:58:26 <MeusH> brb 19:58:28 <MeusH> suppere 19:58:29 <Brianetta> and if you want me to remember, email it 19:58:32 <MeusH> supper* 19:59:04 <Tron> Brianetta: do you have the music files and timidity installed? 19:59:12 <Brianetta> Tron: Yes 19:59:18 <Tron> the music plays? 19:59:21 <Brianetta> Yes 19:59:25 <Tron> ok, then nvm 19:59:26 <Brianetta> but I have that disabled 19:59:33 <Brianetta> becasue it eats my CPU 19:59:55 <Brianetta> My game has only become sluggish since moving from Suse 9.3 to Fedora Core 5 20:00:00 <Tron> it does what? 20:00:12 <Tron> what CPU do you have? 20:00:21 <Brianetta> Athlon 2500+ 20:00:27 <Tron> fascinating 20:00:37 <Brianetta> What's fascinating? 20:00:38 <Darkvater> it eats mine as well. I can see the CPU temp rising alarmingly :P 20:00:48 <Tron> Athlon XP 2000+ and timidity uses <1% CPU 20:00:58 <Brianetta> Do you have several gigs of patch files? 20:01:37 <Tron> this doesn't really change the amount of data 20:02:28 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:02:41 <Tron> 44,1 KHz, 16bit, stereo even with 20 instruments is just about 3.3MB/s 20:03:45 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 20:06:14 <Brianetta> There you go. 20:06:31 <Brianetta> Mine eats my CPU, but sounds like you have a session band. 20:07:43 <Tron> i fail to see your point 20:08:19 <Tron> it's just mixing a bunch of stuff in the _kilohertz_ range into one buffer and sending it to a soundcard 20:08:21 <Brianetta> Never mind 20:08:25 *** NARS_K [i=NULL@213-205-70-209.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 20:08:27 *** NARS_K is now known as NARS_M 20:08:59 <black_Nightmare> sorry had to afk for a moment 20:09:03 <black_Nightmare> anyway brianetta..... 20:10:03 <Sacro> 6th desync... 20:11:03 <Sacro> how do you get an industry (coal mine) to increase production? 20:12:07 <Brianetta> Take away its coal 20:12:09 <Brianetta> and hope 20:12:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> run at ~65% 20:13:09 <black_Nightmare> planesetw_459.grf , newshipsw.grf , snowline_155.grf (on forum somewhere), and 4lvw.grf 20:13:26 <black_Nightmare> I've probably got a lot more suggestions but they're only more of scenary or town ones so maybe not best on multiplayer 20:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> is the nightly r4777? 20:14:23 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.14] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong"] 20:14:23 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: I wanted station graphics 20:15:09 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:15:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> 4lvw.grf <- that is not by any chance georges long vehicles? 20:15:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> those are really ugly 20:15:47 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:16:08 <black_Nightmare> eddi..so you just want only 2 schoolbus-looking passenger vehicles alone? :p 20:16:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> try pb_hovs_bus.grf 20:16:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> those long vehicles just do not fit into the game (graphically) 20:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> they are too huge 20:17:38 <black_Nightmare> eddi..not many of them actually..the name is a bit of hoax on some of the independent sets 20:17:41 <black_Nightmare> figures 20:18:16 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 20:18:24 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 20:18:38 <black_Nightmare> and anyway snowline_155.grf is kinda interesting if you can guess what that does :p 20:19:30 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:21:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> Brianetta: i guess you need at least the industrial stations from the usset (jcindstaw.grf) 20:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> additional to the newstatsw.grf 20:24:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... if i have newgrf/combroadw.grf = 1 1, is that purely graphical changes, or will that desync? 20:25:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> i know that the newbridges (1st parameter = 2) actually change speed limits and stuff 20:25:47 <peter1138> it should be ok 20:26:21 <black_Nightmare> not sure..I've always used a different roadset 20:26:24 *** NARS [i=NULL@213-205-70-209.net.novis.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:34:09 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has quit [Client Quit] 20:37:27 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:37:29 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-214-202.pth-as7.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:42:24 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44:51 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 20:45:47 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-167-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:45 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:54:49 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2D8BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:32 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181105001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:02:51 *** NARS_M [i=NULL@213-205-70-209.net.novis.pt] has quit [] 21:03:20 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has joined #openttd 21:03:50 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-208-156.pth-as1.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:11 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 21:04:23 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:03 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 21:05:26 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 21:06:16 *** ernie_hh [n=Kai_Step@c191088.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #openttd [] 21:10:04 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8020A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:11:31 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:15:42 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D0E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:15:43 *** dp is now known as dp-- 21:31:38 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:37:00 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-208-156.pth-as1.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:40:43 <MeusH> orudge: http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=440166#440166 21:40:48 <MeusH> delete this 21:41:00 <MeusH> and put some kind of authorisation 21:41:08 <MeusH> is this... fourth spam post? 21:41:12 <MeusH> in two days? 21:41:50 <valhallasw> phpBB - fuckedupness 21:42:11 <valhallasw> captcha on registration should work nicely 21:42:26 <orudge> There's already one. 21:42:35 <orudge> These spammers/whatever are clever. 21:43:08 <valhallasw> .. O_o 21:43:16 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=440168#440168 21:43:18 <MeusH> fifth? 21:43:34 <Sacro> 6th at least 21:43:40 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4778 /branch/yapf/yapf/ (5 files): [YAPF] Code cleanup, added some comments, some code reduced using inheritance 21:43:47 <Sacro> that bloke had posted 4, and ive seen to pr0n related 21:44:22 <MeusH> orudge: both e-mail confirmation and authorisation with a number/text on the image is required IMO. IIRC at least one of these is present 21:44:26 <valhallasw> orudge: what about a randomly generated openttd savegame with a code in it? ;P 21:44:48 <hylje> also 21:45:02 <hylje> a list of very easy but obscure questions may help 21:45:25 <MeusH> yeah, hylie made me thing about something good 21:45:39 *** stillunknown_ [n=unknown@82-168-179-194.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:45:46 <MeusH> we just need a brand new security system, not used by anyone else 21:45:52 <valhallasw> yeah 21:45:53 <hylje> since a human can answer them but bot needs to be taught 21:45:55 <MeusH> so spambots are confused 21:46:18 <valhallasw> orudge: simple idea 21:46:22 <valhallasw> exactly the same code 21:46:26 <MeusH> orudge: I don't know how spambots work (yet), but I think they seek for a components with specified names, like "submit" 21:46:32 <valhallasw> but let people type the numbers backwards ;) 21:46:34 <hylje> and teaching like thousands of questions can be too much work for a spammer 21:46:36 * Sacro recommends http://www.kittenauth.com/ 21:46:38 <MeusH> so it goes to "submit" button and virtually clicks it 21:46:53 <MeusH> if you rename "submit" to "foobar", spambots won't click it 21:47:05 <valhallasw> you hope so 21:47:26 <hylje> also, bots identify the forms mostly by names 21:47:38 <XeryusTC> you can also press enter to submit 21:47:40 <hylje> randomize or add salt to those names 21:47:54 <XeryusTC> i think that bots prefer that above clicking ;) 21:47:59 <hylje> and it can confuse most bots 21:48:25 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:49:04 <Sacro> whats wrong with kittenauth, it works and its cute 21:49:41 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:50:07 <XeryusTC> Sacro: it looks cool 21:50:16 <MeusH> kittenauth is cool 21:50:18 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 21:50:19 <MeusH> yeah 21:50:42 <hylje> kittenauth modified to be "spot-the-ottd-vehicle" 21:50:47 <hylje> obscurity. 21:51:38 <XeryusTC> lol, the test site doesnt work :P 21:52:23 <Sacro> well, could change the images, click on the ploddyphut choo choo 21:53:27 <Vornicus> Kittenauth doesn't work, when all the images are broken 21:53:48 <Sacro> Vornicus: no, thats true, the site is being upgraded i belive 21:54:10 <MeusH> Sacro: not every person knows what's that bloodyphut thing is 21:54:40 <MeusH> I think "choose the correct answer would be good" and some mathematical thingies 21:54:51 <MeusH> like 2*3=6 and 2*3=7 21:55:02 <MeusH> because everyone knows that 21:55:52 <MeusH> at least coppa(tm), whatever it is, requires every forum member to be over 13 21:56:08 <MeusH> or their parents should send fax to owen 21:56:19 <MeusH> this is sick, but true 21:56:30 <MeusH> 12,5 hours online 21:56:32 <MeusH> sleepy 21:56:35 <MeusH> cya everybody 21:56:43 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 21:56:50 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-210-86.pth-as3.dial.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:34 <Sacro> but with maths, google has an inbuilt calculator 21:58:41 <Sacro> as do most bots i'd think 21:59:09 <glx> could be an image 21:59:21 <Sacro> 12.5? hours 21:59:28 <valhallasw> yeah! read a clock! 21:59:35 <Sacro> [13:15] *** Connecting to "irc.freenode.net:6667" 21:59:45 * Sacro wishes he could count :( 22:00:09 <Sacro> ah, 10 hours :) 22:00:35 <Sacro> and if i see that on bash or qdb ill be very upset 22:04:34 <Sionide> that is *not* worthy of bash or qdb 22:04:39 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944464.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["n8"] 22:05:40 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4779 /branch/yapf/ (22 files in 2 dirs): Sync with trunk (4744:4778) 22:07:23 * valhallasw clicks 'submit' 22:07:56 * Sacro curses valhallasw 22:07:57 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 22:08:03 <Sacro> i cant help being stupid :( 22:14:47 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 22:15:32 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:36 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:22:33 <ln-> 1110 m 22:24:32 <Sacro> is quite high 22:24:39 <Sacro> :| are you still doing that 22:25:02 <Sacro> thats like almost 5 hours 22:25:02 <ln-> not the whole time, no :) 22:26:17 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.242.155] has quit [Client Quit] 22:28:07 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:28:54 <ln-> 1362 22:32:02 * Sacro sighs 22:34:12 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:34:15 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:34:33 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:35:54 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 22:35:56 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 22:36:18 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 22:37:05 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/nightly/ttdmus.torrent 22:37:12 <Brianetta> TTD music bittorrent 22:38:20 <Brianetta> MP3s, made 'em myself 22:38:30 <vondel> i have the strange tendency to right-click on ttd screenshots to move the screen :) 22:38:42 <Brianetta> vondel: It's quite normal 22:39:13 <Brianetta> I've seen posted screenshots where there's a line across the image from a right-click-drag done in the image editor 22:39:58 <vondel> i was looking on the forums to see what junctions people are making 22:40:34 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:40:48 <vondel> how to bundle 3 medium-busy lines into 2 lines 22:40:58 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:41:01 <Brianetta> Use a load balancer 22:42:09 <vondel> do you happen to know where people posted screens of their load balancers ? 22:42:14 <Brianetta> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/images/3/3c/1_to_2_load-balancer.png 22:42:19 <Brianetta> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Guides:Load_Balancers 22:42:26 <Brianetta> The first is exactly what you want 22:42:33 <Brianetta> although they're optimised for non-NPF 22:43:04 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:27 <vondel> i'm using NPF, but they'll work a bit 22:43:29 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:43:35 <vondel> but i was searching for better :) 22:43:40 <Brianetta> They'll work. 22:43:57 <Brianetta> Load balancing theory is advanced at #openttdcoop 22:44:08 <Brianetta> Look at the signalsd 22:45:13 <vondel> it only looks to be working if block-size is in the order of train-length 22:49:41 <vondel> this my current loadbalancer: http://vondel.student.utwente.nl/loadbalancer-3-2.png 22:50:19 *** publunch [n=publunch@81-174-210-86.pth-as3.dial.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:51:23 <vondel> 3 tracks coming into screen at the bottom left, 2 leaving at the top-right 22:52:57 <ln-> 1463 22:55:41 <vondel> ln-: ? 22:56:36 <Sacro> vondel: http://www.yarukinoki.net/flash/pendulumeca/ 22:57:09 <Sacro> Brianetta: noone in swarm :( 22:57:26 <Brianetta> swarm? 22:57:39 <Sacro> for your torrent 22:57:56 <Brianetta> eh? 22:58:05 <Brianetta> This is my first torrent 22:58:10 <Sacro> [23:40] <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/nightly/ttdmus.torrent 22:58:18 <Sacro> yeah, theres nobody seeding it 22:58:24 <Brianetta> Aren't I? 22:58:27 <Brianetta> hang on 22:58:34 <Sacro> :) 22:58:40 <Brianetta> I thnk I am 22:58:55 <Brianetta> although I've done 0b 22:59:55 * Brianetta nmaps self 23:00:08 <Brianetta> Oooh, 23:00:20 <Sacro> it tickles? 23:00:28 <Brianetta> It's not listening 23:01:00 <Sacro> ... 23:01:08 <ln-> 1740 23:01:16 <ln-> ok, maybe it's about time to go sleep. 23:01:26 <Brianetta> wtf is "Enable automatic port mapping" 23:02:32 <Sacro> no idea 23:02:44 * Brianetta reads the help page 23:07:24 <Brianetta> [2006-05-07 23:31:17] "ttdmus" : Tracker announce still not complete 59 seconds after starting it 23:07:24 <Brianetta> [2006-05-07 23:38:17] "ttdmus" : Tracker announce still not complete 60 seconds after starting it 23:07:44 <Brianetta> It's not appearing on the tracker 23:07:52 <Sacro> im showing tracker status: ok 23:07:52 <Brianetta> which is why it appears unseeded 23:08:29 <Brianetta> Well, you have the link to the torrent file 23:08:36 <Brianetta> the tracker doesn't 23:08:49 <Sacro> download the torrent and select the files as the torrent folder to download to 23:08:54 <Sacro> that shouldwork 23:09:06 <Sacro> you should join as a seeded client 23:09:09 <Brianetta> eh? 23:09:25 <Sacro> hmm 23:09:49 <Brianetta> I'll restart my client 23:11:50 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 23:11:54 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:12:07 <Sacro> ok 23:14:36 <Brianetta> Try now 23:15:20 <Sacro> updated tracker, still nothing 23:16:21 <Brianetta> It says it's seeding it 23:17:08 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:17:23 <Brianetta> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State 23:17:23 <Brianetta> tcp 0 0 *:6881 *:* LISTEN 23:17:27 <Brianetta> My machine is listening 23:18:35 <Sacro> update in 14 secs 23:19:06 <Sacro> 2 peers, no seeds 23:19:24 <Sacro> is that your tracker thats listening, do you have any clients going? 23:21:05 <ln-> 1998 23:23:22 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:24:27 *** Forexs- is now known as Forexs 23:25:00 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has left #openttd [] 23:25:16 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 23:25:45 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 23:29:26 <Brianetta> You've lost me. 23:29:43 <Brianetta> I have this bittorrent window. It says it's done and seeding indefinitely. 23:30:51 <Sacro> querying now 23:32:37 <Sacro> nothing, an im off to bed, night all 23:32:42 <Brianetta> night 23:33:21 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-225-171.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 23:41:14 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176097062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 23:42:08 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit []