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00:00:05 <lws1984> i used to go down there just to watch the 59's go arond 00:00:12 <lws1984> then wait forever for a train to MC ;D 00:01:08 <Sacro> hehe, not an easy place to get to 00:01:19 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:01:31 <lws1984> no 00:01:47 <RichK67> new tgp mountain peak: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=451035#451035 00:02:05 <Sacro> oooh, 73 stock 00:02:12 <Sacro> to be honest, its all good 00:05:35 <Belugas_Gone> Bang! 00:05:41 <Belugas_Gone> I'm stupid 00:05:44 <Belugas_Gone> Bang! 00:05:54 <Belugas_Gone> my head hurts 00:05:59 <Belugas_Gone> Bang! 00:06:13 <Sacro> Belugas_Gone: what u done? 00:06:27 <Belugas_Gone> crap :( 00:06:33 <Belugas_Gone> just a big crap 00:06:46 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46aea.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:06:57 * Belugas_Gone restart graph_gui.c conversion 00:07:07 <Sacro> oh 00:07:42 <[Shaman]> RichK67: Nice work on TPG. 00:08:15 <[Shaman]> I should finish that widget thingie.. not now tho since it's 2am again >_< 00:08:48 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:08:59 <Belugas_Gone> but now... I know what I need to do :) 00:09:19 <Belugas_Gone> Newcargos are abouyt to unfold!!! 00:09:41 <Brianetta> It's good that the mountains are climbable, too 00:09:46 <Brianetta> One could switchback up one 00:10:22 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 00:11:15 <Belugas_Gone> RichK67, you Rock :) 00:13:31 <RichK67> funny really - my first generate after the upload, crashed!! :) 00:14:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> damn... i soo need 5.1 speakers ;) 00:17:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> urgs... updating beyond yapf merge totally screwed up my newgrf section :p 00:18:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> i had all newgrfs commented out, and now it put yapf settings between [newgrf] and all those comments :p 00:18:10 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: whoops! 00:18:36 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:21:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> RichK67: can the random seed be right bound instead of left bound? 00:23:05 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you should probably make the buttons a little wider, because other languages might overlap 00:23:44 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:49 <RichK67> im working on the gui... the seed area is going to eventually be an input box once i work out how they work 00:26:17 *** |DorpsIdioot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:35:26 *** iridium`nh [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:36:38 <CIA-3> richk * r5111 /branch/MiniIN/industry_cmd.c: [MiniIN]: [TGP]: Bug in industry_cmd.c fixed. Industries should no longer destroy towns when terraforming the platform level. 00:38:47 <CIA-3> richk * r5112 /branch/MiniIN/ (main_gui.c tgp_gui.c): [MiniIN]: [TGP]: Moved generate terrain gui to tgp_gui.c. This will make it easier to add a gui for the Scenario Generator with more options. 00:39:52 <CIA-3> richk * r5113 /branch/MiniIN/tgp.c: [MiniIN]: [TGP]: Scaled terrain by the largest number generated. This brings mountain peaks into view; so no more nasty mountain-plateaus. :) 00:43:54 *** csuke is now known as Red 00:54:28 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 01:10:53 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 01:15:19 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 01:17:02 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:27:18 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 01:27:38 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:40:13 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 01:41:06 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:56:19 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-95.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 01:57:10 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3708D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:59:25 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 02:27:31 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:02:49 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-202-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:06:15 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:06:23 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 03:33:09 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has joined #openttd 03:43:38 *** Smoky555 [i=wr57rwuu@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has joined #openttd 03:44:21 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 03:46:32 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 03:47:53 <numerodix> newbie question: I'm trying to mess with the string_id of a vehicle, how do I do anything meaningful with it? As far as I can see the type is StringID, defined in openttd.h to uint16, then I tried using GetString to get a char array from that. How do I cast that back to a StringID/uint16? This is happening in the CmdCloneVehicle in vehicle.c.. I can access the variable through v->string_id but how do I dereference the pointer? And how do I 03:47:53 <numerodix> set it to a new value? for instance.. *newpointer = *oldpointer but that segfaults 04:09:06 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:21:23 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:25:40 <Smoky555> morning 04:26:13 <Smoky555> peter1138: when branch/bridge will be merged with trunk? 04:31:58 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:37:06 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:43:46 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.166.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:57:08 <Tobin> Smoky555: It has been. 04:57:33 <Smoky555> Tobin: really? 04:58:16 <Tobin> Erm, actually I might be thinking of YAPF. 04:58:25 <Tobin> ... which is in. 04:58:29 * Smoky555 going to download fresh trunk ... 04:58:59 <Tobin> Smoky555: Yes it has been r5070. 04:59:21 <Smoky555> ok 04:59:30 <Smoky555> thanks 05:11:10 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 05:26:57 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:26:57 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 05:42:26 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 06:40:30 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-49-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:42:15 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:44:00 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 06:52:40 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-49-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 06:58:00 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:58:26 *** robobed is now known as roboman 06:58:33 <roboman> hello 07:01:25 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 07:04:05 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 07:04:38 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Client Quit] 07:07:00 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:16:03 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:19:10 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:19:10 *** fusee is now known as fusey 07:19:59 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:25:35 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:25:35 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:27:58 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:33:58 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@ns.spirit.ee] has joined #openttd 07:37:47 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5114 /branch/utf8/ (78 files in 9 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r5005:r5100 from trunk 07:45:21 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:46:26 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:49:14 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:49:28 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:05:44 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2927.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 08:16:02 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 08:18:54 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 08:25:25 <Darkvater> Celestar: ping 08:27:02 <peter1138> morning dv 08:27:33 <Darkvater> morning peter1138 08:30:59 <CIA-3> tron * r5115 /branch/0.4/ (6 files): Move helper functions to where they belong 08:31:38 <Darkvater> Tron: moved the small inlined functions into header? 08:31:46 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 08:32:08 <Darkvater> that's a yes 08:32:13 <Tron> it started to get messy, because by now some of them appeared twice 08:32:29 <Tron> with the next fix it would probably be thrice 08:32:33 *** sway_ [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 08:33:06 <Darkvater> you're probably right. I started thinking about that but then decided not to since I didn't want to add a new header file 08:33:26 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:34:42 <CIA-3> tron * r5116 /trunk/ (depot.h npf.c vehicle.c): Move the overly generic GetDepotDirection() from a header to its only consumer 08:35:32 <Darkvater> I was thinking of doing 0.4.8RC1 today 08:35:36 <Darkvater> anyone against? 08:36:07 <peter1138> what about the autoreplace fix? 08:37:13 <Darkvater> heh, good point 08:37:14 <Tron> the tunnel problem 08:37:24 <Tron> or rather a terraforming problem 08:37:57 <Tron> it probably happend when Celestar rewrote the terraforming 08:38:18 <peter1138> is that in 0.4.7? 08:38:33 <Tron> yes 08:38:41 <peter1138> hmm 08:38:43 <peter1138> then that too 08:39:06 <Darkvater> hmm, is that with the | - track and terraforming it down? Can't remember that 08:39:16 <peter1138> no 08:39:19 <Darkvater> got a screenshot/bug report? 08:39:48 <peter1138> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25488 08:40:13 <peter1138> that's the tunnel incarnation, but it's the terraforming that's at fault 08:40:23 <Darkvater> gaaah, wereh's my mouse? 08:40:41 <Tron> you can do some invalid terraforming, too 08:41:03 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:42:07 <Darkvater> wait, that is a bug in 0.4.7?? 08:42:08 * Darkvater tests 08:42:27 <peter1138> damn, pikkabird's airplanes are nice 08:42:28 <Rubidium> yes, it is in 0.4.7 08:42:45 <peter1138> they tilt when taking off / landing 08:43:17 <Darkvater> hmm it is 08:43:44 <Tron> Darkvater: r4012 08:45:41 <Darkvater> great :s 08:49:23 <Darkvater> hehe 08:49:31 <Darkvater> r4012: Fixes a bug where you could terraform a tunnel (fixed by r3228, but reverted that one) 08:49:57 <Tron> the issue is delicatae 08:50:03 <Tron> s/ae/e/ 08:50:18 <Tron> you could terraform within tunnels before that 08:50:43 <Darkvater> peter1138: also in ottd? got pics? ^^ 08:50:47 <Tron> 0.4.6 has the problem, too, btw 08:50:56 <peter1138> Darkvater: yes, but no pics 08:51:18 <Darkvater> damn I hate slopes... hated them starting from the day they were added 08:51:55 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181101113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:51:57 <Tron> hm, i wonder who started implementing them... 08:52:09 <Darkvater> me :( 08:52:25 <Darkvater> but in my defense: ludde did almost all the work 08:53:28 <peter1138> heh 08:53:50 <peter1138> move to explicit foundations 08:55:02 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 08:55:10 <Darkvater> about damn time 08:55:34 <Darkvater> hmm why don't we fix this in tunnelbridge_cmd.c? 08:56:55 <Darkvater> bad idea 08:57:19 <peter1138> because it affects more than tunnels 08:58:45 <Tron> clear_cmd.c 08:58:48 <Tron> have fun 08:58:54 <Darkvater> already having 08:59:08 <Tron> somebody should rewrite the whole terraforming stuff, because it is /dead/ slow 08:59:55 <Darkvater> hmm 09:00:05 <Darkvater> I can do this with rail but it doesn't work with road 09:00:52 <Sacro> morning all 09:03:01 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:03:21 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 09:04:08 <Darkvater> this is strange... 09:07:22 <Darkvater> hmm I fixed that bug..but what have I introduced? :p 09:08:29 <Tron> <Darkvater> I can do this with rail but it doesn't work with road <-- of course, there's only a special case for certain rail configurations, which can be terraformed 09:09:36 <Darkvater> now I know what I broke... *sigh* 09:09:53 <Darkvater> dammit fucking terraform 09:12:45 <Smoky555> is it possible to build bridge under/over another bridge? 09:13:02 <Darkvater> hmm do we have a function that says if a tile is foundationed or not? 09:14:12 <Tron> GetRailFoundation() returns != 0 if there is a foundation 09:14:15 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:14:33 <Darkvater> ah thx 09:15:42 <peter1138> Smoky555: no 09:16:14 <peter1138> bah, i hate socks. they always shrink 09:16:22 <Smoky555> :( 09:18:15 <Darkvater> I need some food 09:18:35 <peter1138> me too 09:20:46 <Sacro> OpenTTD BBQ :D 09:21:10 <peter1138> hmm, yeah, at my new house 09:21:15 *** roboman is now known as robodinner 09:29:08 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 09:34:21 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:34:27 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 09:35:10 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:35:12 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 09:37:17 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:37:21 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:38:09 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laimGZNmhrc :D 09:43:31 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:46:36 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 09:47:07 <valhallazzzw> *click* 09:47:18 <valhallazzzw> omg 09:47:26 <valhallazzzw> noes :D 09:49:19 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:52:32 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:53:38 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:54:00 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-237-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:55:01 <CIA-3> tron * r5117 /trunk/roadveh_cmd.c: Remove a redundant check: If a road vehicle is in the state 'in depot', don't test if it's a road depot 09:55:24 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2927.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:58:59 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:03:19 *** robodinner [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:07:26 *** valhallazzzw is now known as valhallasw 10:11:46 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:13:12 <peter1138> how do you get a literal * as the first character on a line, using wikipedia? 10:13:39 <peter1138> er, i mean mediawiki, but still... 10:23:20 <valhallasw> erm 10:23:20 <CIA-3> tron * r5118 /trunk/ (roadveh.h roadveh_cmd.c roadveh_gui.c vehicle.c): Add IsRoadVehInDepot{Stopped,}() 10:23:23 <valhallasw> good point 10:23:27 *** robodinner [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:23:33 *** robodinner is now known as roboman 10:23:36 <valhallasw> try <nowiki>*</nowiki> 10:24:37 <peter1138> does the job. cheers. 10:25:35 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:26:42 <CIA-3> tron * r5119 /trunk/roadveh_gui.c: -Fix: If a road vehicle is on a road depot tile and stopped doesn't mean it's in the depot. Use the proper test for this 10:34:21 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:41:07 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:42:32 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 10:44:59 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:45:19 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:32 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:45 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549448D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:54:42 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37653.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:34 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:59:04 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:59:57 <lws1984> bye all 11:00:20 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Work work work..."] 11:15:04 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944B6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:21:31 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387DD16.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:27:39 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 11:28:02 <CIA-3> tron * r5120 /trunk/ (ship_cmd.c ship_gui.c vehicle.c): Add IsShipInDepot{Stopped,}() and remove some redundant checks 11:28:29 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:34 <CIA-3> tron * r5121 /trunk/ship.h: Add forgotten file in r5120 11:28:35 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 11:33:39 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:06 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-3424.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:35:58 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 11:40:11 <XeryusTC> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7813256933733489580 :) 11:41:21 <peter1138> pretty rubbish 11:44:02 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 11:45:16 <RichK67> hi 11:46:03 <roboman> hewoo 11:46:54 <Sacro> hewwwwooooooooooo 11:47:13 <RichK67> sorry gotta go! 11:47:16 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:50:11 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.166.154] has joined #openttd 11:50:27 <Trenskow> is it possible to advertise a server manually? 11:51:31 <Sacro> Trenskow: post the ip in here :) 11:51:45 <Trenskow> 85.218.166.154 11:51:47 <Trenskow> :) 11:51:51 <XeryusTC> lol 11:52:00 <Trenskow> so were advertised :D 11:52:03 <Sacro> Trenskow: there you have it, advertising 11:52:27 <Sacro> though its usually wise to specify version, any newgrfs, anything else people might wnt to know 11:52:38 *** iridium`nh [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 11:53:25 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:59:57 *** illegale [i=illegale@cmung4285.cmu.carnet.hr] has joined #openttd 11:59:57 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:00:03 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:00:04 *** illegale [i=illegale@cmung4285.cmu.carnet.hr] has left #openttd [] 12:07:32 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:12:18 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 12:15:59 <Tron> peter1138: UTF-8 has no 5 and 6 byte sequences 12:19:15 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has joined #openttd 12:22:22 <peter1138> yet 12:22:37 <Tron> yet? 12:22:49 <Tron> 5 and 6 byte sequences where explicitly removed 12:22:56 <peter1138> hmm 12:22:57 <Tron> s/where/were/ 12:23:35 <peter1138> oh well 12:23:37 <peter1138> it doesn't hurt 12:25:23 <peter1138> can be removed easily enough 12:25:27 *** iridium`nh is now known as iridium 12:26:19 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:27:25 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 12:31:22 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5122 /branch/utf8/ (17 files in 2 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r5100:r5121 from trunk 12:34:05 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:36:13 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-30.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 12:36:40 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-30.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Client Quit] 12:36:42 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:37:07 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46afa.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:37:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 12:37:26 <roboman> hello 12:37:45 <Sacro> hey roboman 12:38:23 <roboman> gnight 12:38:58 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:41:46 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5123 /branch/utf8/ (strgen/strgen.c string.c): [utf8] Remove 5/6 byte encodings as per RFC3629, and add 4 byte encoding to strgen (thanks tron) 12:42:56 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 12:43:44 <CIA-3> tron * r5124 /trunk/ (aircraft.h aircraft_cmd.c aircraft_gui.c): 12:43:44 <CIA-3> Add IsAircraftInHangar{Stopped,}(), which supersedes CheckStoppedInHangar() 12:43:44 <CIA-3> -Fix: Be more strict what it means for an aircraft to be in a hangar: It's not just being stopped on a hangar tile 12:44:43 <RichK67> hmm - i wonder if that is going to break new airports ... 12:44:59 <peter1138> shouldn't do 12:45:50 <RichK67> ill check it when i get home 12:47:21 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5125 /branch/utf8/string.c: [utf8] 'Protect' against overlong encoding of characters 12:53:00 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:54:28 *** Smoky555 [i=wr57rwuu@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has left #openttd [] 12:58:13 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 12:58:58 <Belugas> hi theer 12:59:10 <RichK67> hi 13:00:04 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 13:03:08 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E00F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:04:39 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:04:55 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387DD16.versanet.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:04:59 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 13:10:29 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5126 /branch/utf8/ (fontcache.c table/control_codes.h): [utf8] Replace some magic numbers with string control code enum values 13:13:28 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 13:13:29 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:14:51 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 13:15:00 <webfreakz> hi 13:17:00 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:17:00 *** fusee is now known as fusey 13:21:19 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E00F.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:22:29 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:34 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:39:04 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:42:34 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:43:37 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 13:51:58 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has left #openttd [] 13:53:30 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:53:40 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:53:42 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:54:02 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:00:26 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 14:01:08 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:01:09 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 14:02:45 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:11 <Hackykid> hmm, in what revision did newstations start to work? 14:11:37 <peter1138> technically when i added the gui 14:11:47 <peter1138> but... hmm. 14:11:52 <peter1138> which was that... 14:12:17 <Hackykid> well... i got a gui in r4800, but it only shows the default station 14:12:32 <peter1138> r4768 14:12:35 <Hackykid> so that is not supposed to happen? 14:12:58 <peter1138> well, what sets are you trying to use? 14:13:17 <Hackykid> dbsetxlw.grf 14:13:17 <Hackykid> newstatsw.grf 14:13:26 <peter1138> newstatsw.grf definitely works 14:13:32 <Sacro> yup it does 14:13:42 <Hackykid> strange then... 14:13:50 <peter1138> what's listed in the dropdown? 14:14:19 <Hackykid> lol, good one 14:14:32 <Hackykid> nothing was wrong, i just wasnt understanding the gui :-p 14:14:35 <peter1138> :P 14:14:43 <Hackykid> ahem 14:15:02 <peter1138> it makes sense when you know that newstations are split into classes 14:15:30 <peter1138> why are you using 4800 anyway? 14:15:43 <peter1138> that doesn't have the bridges :) 14:15:53 <Hackykid> well, i'm updating my old pbs patch hehe 14:16:33 <Hackykid> i really cant play ottd without it anymore :-( 14:16:59 <peter1138> hmm 14:17:05 <Dred_furst> hey 14:17:07 <peter1138> there should be a fairly recent version anyway 14:18:36 <Hackykid> hmm, where? 14:18:56 <Dred_furst> is there any way of making my compile compile faster? 14:18:59 <Hackykid> i saw pbs_at_r4286.patch at the forums 14:19:08 <peter1138> Dred_furst: get a faster computer 14:19:13 <Dred_furst> hmm 14:19:21 <Dred_furst> Slow-ish compiles it is :) 14:19:25 <Dred_furst> its a few mins i can cope 14:19:29 <TinoM> Dred_furst, linux? try ccache 14:19:37 <Dred_furst> Im in windows 14:19:52 <Dred_furst> I really need to get my Mpich cluster working :/ 14:19:56 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:20:06 <Tron> <peter1138> that doesn't have the bridges :) <--- trunk won't have it for too long either, except celestar has a /really/ good explanation, but i doubt that 14:20:33 <Dred_furst> my Mpich cluster runs linux :) but i need a better distro 14:20:37 <Dred_furst> any reccomendations? 14:20:57 <Dred_furst> (looking for something that likes fairly low-spec hardware) 14:20:57 <peter1138> will ccache help? only stuff that needs compiling gets compiled anyway... 14:21:34 <Tron> ccache will most likely not help 14:22:18 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 14:22:22 <Hackykid> peter1138: i think you also mentioned pbs and newstation conflicting because of mapbits usage 14:22:48 <peter1138> " conflicting because of mapbits usage 14:22:50 <peter1138> err 14:22:56 <peter1138> "If you ever run "make clean; make" then you can probably benefit from ccache. It is very common for developers to do a clean build of a project for a whole host of reasons, and this throws away all the information from your previous compiles." 14:23:10 <peter1138> throws away... yes, that's the point of doing make clean :) 14:23:32 <peter1138> Hackykid: yeah, simple to work around it though 14:23:45 <Hackykid> tell me how then :-) 14:24:19 <peter1138> limit the station classes to 127, make it use 7 bits in the map array instead of 8, and then use the free bit from there 14:24:53 <Hackykid> ah 14:25:26 <peter1138> also adjust the loading so that any station with over 127 classes loses the higher set (you end up with default station graphics for them) 14:25:36 <peter1138> going over 127 is unlikely anyway 14:25:45 *** iridium is now known as iridium`nh 14:25:58 <Dred_furst> Hmm i really could do with another switch atm (network) 14:26:53 <peter1138> i could do with a cup of tea 14:27:25 <Dred_furst> lol 14:29:13 <Dred_furst> looks like winroute again 14:29:31 *** iridium`nh [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22"] 14:29:51 <Hackykid> hmm, is a custom station id the same as a station class? 14:29:52 <Dred_furst> need to get my cluster on the internet so i can install debian net install :) 14:30:10 <peter1138> Hackykid: no 14:30:15 <peter1138> theres a class, and an id 14:30:21 <peter1138> and there's also a mapping table 14:30:52 <Hackykid> # m4 = custom station id; 0 means standard graphics 14:31:22 <peter1138> guess i should fix that ;p 14:31:28 <Hackykid> :O 14:32:33 <peter1138> mmm, custard cremes 14:36:20 <Dred_furst> Mmm 14:36:53 <Hackykid> hmm, that was indeed easy (assuming all code uses those accessor functions :-p) 14:37:25 <peter1138> it does 14:37:30 <Sacro> Hackykid: updated PBS? 14:37:35 <Hackykid> nice nice 14:37:48 <Sacro> commitage! 14:37:49 <Hackykid> Sacro: updating pbs 14:37:53 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 14:37:57 <Hackykid> and no, its not gonna be committed 14:38:09 <peter1138> Hackykid: a return to the days of stuff! 14:38:47 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 14:39:49 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 14:39:53 <Hackykid> hehe :-) 14:40:42 <ln-> MiHaMiX: i need contact info. 14:41:11 <Hackykid> i think its gonna get really tricky to get the new bridge stuff to work with pbs 14:43:48 <Sacro> maybe RichK67 will put it in minty 14:45:26 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:13 <Hackykid> what rev did the bridges come along? 14:49:24 <KUDr_wrk> 5070? 14:49:40 <Hackykid> ah, yes 14:49:53 <KUDr_wrk> should be easy for you 14:49:59 <KUDr_wrk> it acts like tunnels 14:50:18 <KUDr_wrk> just entry/exit 14:50:27 <Hackykid> hmm, i see 14:50:44 <KUDr_wrk> was also easy to integrate with yapf 14:52:23 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 14:54:26 <CIA-3> tron * r5127 /trunk/ai/default/default.c: Use IsRoadVehInDepotStopped() and IsAircraftInHangarStopped() 14:59:12 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:01:04 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-58-243.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:48 <Hackykid> yapf/yapf_costrail.hpp:128: warning: enumeration value `SIGTYPE_PBS' not handled 15:01:48 <Hackykid> in switch 15:01:52 <Hackykid> hehe :-p 15:02:31 <KUDr_wrk> can happen 15:02:39 <KUDr_wrk> you can add it there 15:02:41 <Hackykid> yeah 15:03:15 <KUDr_wrk> will you integrate pbs with yapf? 15:04:50 <Hackykid> hmmz, dunno yet, probably not 15:05:47 <KUDr_wrk> you can reopen PBS branch and make it there for NPF 15:06:05 <KUDr_wrk> and then i can copy your stuff for yapf too 15:07:09 <Hackykid> hmm, indeed 15:09:48 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2D4DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:53 <Darkvater> you guys having some commit-competition? :P 15:10:09 <Hackykid> does the "use NPF" patch override "use YAPF" ? 15:10:46 <KUDr_wrk> no 15:10:55 <KUDr_wrk> YAPF rules 15:11:00 <Hackykid> did it ever do? 15:11:19 <KUDr_wrk> don't think 15:11:27 <Hackykid> (like, in r4987) 15:11:31 <Hackykid> :-p 15:11:40 <Hackykid> hmm, it seems so here 15:11:44 <Darkvater> peter1138: are you at work today? 15:13:03 <Hackykid> must be something i broke :O 15:13:05 <peter1138> yes 15:13:21 <Darkvater> he, poor guys. We have a day off here 15:13:29 <Darkvater> my father has to work as well :s 15:13:45 <peter1138> i had last monday off, so... 15:14:45 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:20:33 <Tobin> KUDr_wrk: With regards to the whole "what pathfinder overrides what?" thing, maybe it could be made into a Drop down list or something to prevent the confusion. 15:21:06 <Tobin> Something that only allows a single selection anyway. 15:22:27 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2FAE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:22:27 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 15:23:15 <Belugas> <peter1138> i had last monday off, so... <---- I had last saturday off ;) 15:23:35 <Darkvater> RichK67: if you pudate airports to HEAD I'll look through it 15:26:57 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:29:49 <CIA-3> tron * r5128 /trunk/ai/default/default.c: Remove the global variable _cur_ai_player 15:33:02 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:35:52 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-185-174.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:41:28 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:42:13 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:42:26 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:43:24 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176096241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:46:54 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 15:47:10 <CIA-3> tron * r5129 /trunk/ai/default/default.c: Accommodate the default AI for the new railtype: It used hard coded numbers instead of enums to calculate prices 15:52:25 <RichK67> hi DV... it was up to date when i sent it to you... ;) 15:53:18 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:34 <RichK67> Darkvater: ill update to HEAD first thing this evening... if you will review it tonight ;) (i need to check that a tron change to airport_cmd.c has not affected it) 15:56:59 <MiHaMiX> here 15:57:03 <CIA-3> miham * r5130 /trunk/lang/ (american.txt galician.txt italian.txt): 15:57:03 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-05 17:56:46 15:57:03 <CIA-3> american - 12 changed by WhiteRabbit (12) 15:57:03 <CIA-3> galician - 62 fixed, 10 changed by Condex (72) 15:57:03 <CIA-3> italian - 3 changed by sidew (3) 15:57:23 <MiHaMiX> ln-: ? 15:58:05 <ln-> the new finnish translator has made some changes that are more or less questionable. is there any way to contact him? 15:58:42 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: wiki. dead. stop 15:58:53 <MiHaMiX> ln-: yes, via me 15:58:57 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: impossible 15:59:07 <Darkvater> RichK67: it's not up to date anymore ;P. Will wait for new PM :) 15:59:15 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: it's working for me 15:59:33 <Darkvater> well it was dead during the weekend and doesn't seem to work atm either 15:59:51 <Darkvater> hmm working now 15:59:53 <Darkvater> how typical 15:59:55 <MiHaMiX> ln-: email me at mihamix (at) openttd (dot) org 16:00:01 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: it was indeed dead 16:00:02 <ln-> MiHaMiX: ok, ask him why did he change "timanttikaivos" to "jalokivikaivos", and tell him to use "rautatie" or "rata" instead of "junarata", and, and ... 16:00:18 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: but TL|Away fixed it, since he also has the privilege to do so 16:00:24 <Darkvater> good 16:00:47 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: also... it should be "OpenTTD", not "Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe" 16:00:55 <MiHaMiX> ln-: i'm not going to learn finnish, could you please send me an email to the above email address and i'll forward it to him 16:01:17 <MiHaMiX> ln-: please don't forget to write the name of the given translator 16:01:40 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: ok, will fixing that. I'm wondering why do we use the abbreviated format 16:01:43 <ln-> m'kay 16:02:09 <MiHaMiX> ln-: thanks 16:02:16 <peter1138> cos that's the name? 16:02:17 <peter1138> heh 16:02:44 <Darkvater> yeah, it's openttd 16:02:56 <Tron> MiHaMiX: 16:02:56 <Tron> %grep -l 'STRING[1-5]' ^english.txt* */*.txt 16:02:57 <Tron> estonian.txt 16:02:57 <Tron> unfinished/lithuanian.txt 16:02:57 <Tron> unfinished/slovenian.txt 16:03:00 <MiHaMiX> okay, I'll change that 16:03:19 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 16:03:22 <MiHaMiX> Tron: they still didn't fixed the etrrors 16:03:36 <MiHaMiX> Tron: could you please fix them if you got a chance? 16:03:41 <Tron> in fact they're getting more instead of less 16:03:55 * MiHaMiX is at his parents using their slow network connection 16:04:09 <MiHaMiX> Tron: no, you can't spot a single {STRINGx} in 10 days 16:04:21 <MiHaMiX> Tron: which is not got fixed right away 16:04:40 <Tron> last time i checked it was just 2 languages 16:05:04 <Tron> anyway, just disallow the use of STRING[1-5] 16:05:07 <MiHaMiX> ok, lemme search through the changes 16:05:19 <Tron> i don't care when it happend 16:05:32 <Tron> just please ensure it can't happen again 16:05:33 <RichK67> DV: the patch i sent you applies without conflict to the trunk... please dont wait on me 16:06:12 <Darkvater> ok 16:06:19 <RichK67> ty 16:06:34 <Darkvater> how hard is it to check for {STRINGx} in a commit? Just grep the language/diff or something 16:06:43 <Darkvater> or disallow saving when pressing the button in the translator 16:06:54 <MiHaMiX> Tron: i'm not going to fix the bug right away (it's a pain to type any kind of text here, it's soo laggy here), but I'll not commit any changes which contain {STRINGn} 16:07:13 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: i'll solve it this week, say,\ until wednesday 16:07:52 <MiHaMiX> until then I make sure before every commit that the proposed changes doesn't contain invalid {STRINGx} params 16:07:55 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.4.246] has joined #openttd 16:08:08 <CIA-3> tron * r5131 /trunk/lang/ (3 files in 2 dirs): s/STRING[1-5]/STRING/g 16:08:45 <MiHaMiX> Tron: ty. 16:08:56 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N stats: 93% - 4806 bad strings out of 73164 strings 16:09:05 <Tron> and something seems to be broken with ³ (power to 3) 16:09:50 <Darkvater> < gotta make food 16:10:06 <MiHaMiX> Tron: yes, well-known bug, but will disappear right after switching to utf-8, which is near 16:10:16 <Tron> i doubt that 16:10:31 <MiHaMiX> Tron: never mind, i'm dead sure :D 16:10:35 <Tron> the "which is near" part 16:10:40 <MiHaMiX> Tron: ahh 16:10:53 <MiHaMiX> Tron: that depends on peter1138, and I'm trust him :) 16:11:09 <Tron> is it so hard to handle ISO8859-15? 16:11:13 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: that is a very BAD attitude 16:11:18 <Darkvater> is 0.4.8 fucked then? 16:11:22 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: no. 16:11:27 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: actually the ³s are broken in ukrainian.txt, so... 16:11:43 <Darkvater> shit I was making food ;po 16:11:54 <MiHaMiX> Tron: no. i must've made a mistype in charcoder 16:12:11 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: the literal ?-s? 16:12:14 <peter1138> yeah 16:12:28 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: in what way? 16:19:40 <Tron> btw: ukranian.txt is contains invalid chars 16:20:09 <MiHaMiX> Tron: utf8 chars. 16:20:19 <Tron> no, iconv tells me it's not proper UTF-8 16:20:33 <MiHaMiX> let me see.. 16:20:41 <peter1138> it is, except for those broken power of 3s 16:20:57 <peter1138> EF BF BD 16:21:03 <Tron> %iconv -f UTF-8 unfinished/ukrainian.txt 16:21:04 <Tron> ##name ukrainian 16:21:04 <Tron> iconv: unfinished/ukrainian.txt: cannot convert 16:21:54 <peter1138> my iconv gets further than that 16:21:55 <MiHaMiX> Tron: without -t switch iconv tries to convert to your locale's charset 16:22:04 <peter1138> hmm, /me check 16:23:17 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:49 <peter1138> yeah 16:24:54 <peter1138> and it can't 16:25:29 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:28:03 <MiHaMiX> okay folks, it's even slower 16:28:03 <MiHaMiX> bbl 16:29:58 <peter1138> EF BF BD == U+FFFD == replacement character 16:31:03 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 16:31:32 <CIA-3> tron * r5132 /trunk/lang/ (american.txt unfinished/slovenian.txt): s/?/?4?9/ 16:32:59 <peter1138> gah, vim's being too clever 16:33:12 <peter1138> it's converting stuff so i can't see what's wrong ;p 16:33:17 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 16:35:59 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 16:36:24 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:28 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5133 /branch/utf8/settings.c: [utf8] Fix compilation if freetype isn't enabled 16:41:32 <peter1138> i could add a {POWEROF3} (or {CUBED}) to strgen... 16:41:47 <peter1138> shouldn't be necessary though 16:45:09 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:45:45 <blathijs> hey, wtf 16:45:52 <blathijs> we have utf8 and freetype support? :-) 16:46:11 <glx> yes in a branch 16:46:20 <peter1138> yeah 16:49:04 * peter1138 ponders making strgen more utf8 aware 16:49:15 <peter1138> currently it just passes data byte for byte 16:55:14 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5134 /branch/utf8/string.c: [utf8] Fix braino in r5125 -- the values are hexadecimal... 16:56:08 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:56:24 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:56:32 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has quit ["6x Raisin-Noisettes Raisin-Nuts"] 16:57:26 <Trenskow> why does it say money limit on auto-renew trains, when there is money enough? 16:57:30 <Trenskow> and no bank loan 17:00:48 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 17:00:55 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:05:51 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["brb, need to kill screens"] 17:06:38 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:13:29 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 17:17:39 *** glx_ [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:15 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-58-243.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:20:11 <peter1138> blathijs: so yeah... the ukrainian translation looks nice 17:25:01 <Sacro> hmm, my dads gf and her family are ukrainian 17:25:58 <Vornicus> Trenskow: autorenew will not replace trains unless it would leave you more than the autoreplace threshold, which is usually either 50,000 or 100,000 british pounds. The autoreplace threshold is configurable. 17:26:44 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 17:27:00 <RichK67> hi all 17:27:11 <glx_> RichK67: hi 17:27:11 <peter1138> mr richk 17:27:38 <glx_> RichK67: properties are wrong for some files you added in MiniIN branch 17:28:01 <RichK67> specifics? 17:28:28 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:28:43 *** glx_ is now known as glx 17:29:10 <glx> Id and eol 17:29:29 <peter1138> RichK67: tgp2, the river, is nice :D 17:29:31 <Tron> %cat `which add` 17:29:31 <Tron> #!/bin/sh 17:29:31 <Tron> svn add $* || exit 1 17:29:31 <Tron> svn ps svn:eol-style native $* || exit 1 17:29:31 <Tron> svn ps svn:keywords Id $* || exit 1 17:30:00 <RichK67> sorry - i mean which files 17:30:21 <RichK67> also, im on windows, so i dont have the linux-fetish for complexity 17:30:42 <Tron> 1. it's a bourne shell script 17:30:43 <peter1138> that's simplicity :P 17:30:53 <Tron> 2. what's complex about it? 17:31:03 <Tron> add $FILENAMES 17:31:07 <Belugas> Hello RichK67. TortoiSVN handles properties quite well 17:31:10 <peter1138> 3. tron doesn't use linux :D 17:31:12 <RichK67> not if you havent the foggiest how to run it, what the requirements are, whether the opsys supports it, etc. 17:31:18 <peter1138> i made it even simpler 17:31:28 <peter1138> i just added the them to svn's default property list 17:31:31 <peter1138> -the 17:31:51 <Tron> that's per se a good idea, but too bad it's per client and not per repo 17:31:57 <peter1138> yeah 17:32:15 <RichK67> ok, so rather than hammer me on "how im not doing it right", show me how; i need hand-holding to get it right, as i dont know what the requirements are... 17:32:15 <Tron> so if there's another repo with different default values you're out of luck 17:32:23 <Tron> (i hope this gets fixed at some point) 17:32:59 <RichK67> (granted, once shown, thats enough for me... i wont need showing a second time) 17:33:27 <Tron> look up there, the 2 properties shown need the respective values 17:33:58 <RichK67> for what, where? for the MiniIN branch, for specific files, what? 17:35:02 <RichK67> where do i set it/run script? in Tortoise? in a mingw window, in a dos window? 17:35:15 <Tron> nvm 17:35:16 <peter1138> you right click on the files 17:35:22 <peter1138> go to properties 17:35:34 <RichK67> WHICH FILES!!!! im not a freaking psychic 17:35:35 <peter1138> and, er, other stuff 17:35:45 <peter1138> files you've added 17:35:51 <peter1138> can't be that many 17:35:51 <Tron> the files which don't have the properties, of course 17:35:55 <RichK67> thankyou... 17:36:06 <RichK67> tron: unhelpful... 17:36:08 <Tron> hey, ask your tortoise 17:36:14 <RichK67> how? 17:36:20 <glx> RichK67: at least tgp*.[ch] 17:36:27 <Tron> how should i know? i don't abuse turtles 17:36:48 <RichK67> yup, tgp_gui.c, airports.grf, patches directory, etc. 17:36:56 <peter1138> so in properties, it's the subversion tab 17:37:07 <peter1138> the properties will be listed there 17:37:09 <RichK67> WHICH FILES. 17:37:10 <Tron> definatly NOT airports.grf 17:37:15 <hylje> RichK67: X-FILES 17:37:30 <peter1138> i don't know which files. it's your branch. 17:37:34 <Tron> you don't want svn to f*** with the line endings of binary files 17:37:44 <peter1138> mmm, like ftp :D 17:38:04 <RichK67> well, someone "knows" to be complaining about them 17:38:53 <glx> [19:36:41] <glx> RichK67: at least tgp*.[ch] <-- I found these but didn't check all files you added 17:41:13 <Tron> %svn st 17:41:14 <Tron> MM tgp.c 17:41:14 <Tron> MM tgp.h 17:41:14 <Tron> MM tgp_gui.c 17:41:15 <Tron> these 17:41:45 <RichK67> ok - in the properties/Subversion tab, there is a drop-down for eol-style... what should i put in the setting box? 17:42:01 <Tron> i just set the properties for all files, much faster than hunt and peck for the missing ones 17:42:13 <Tron> [19:29:31] <Tron> svn ps svn:eol-style native $* || exit 1 17:42:42 <RichK67> not helpful when im not running a b***** command line 17:43:05 <glx> RichK67: read: "native" 17:43:05 <Tron> given you have 3 choices in your dropdown box 17:43:21 <Tron> guess which somehow corresponds to the command i quoted 17:43:30 <RichK67> i dont, so! 17:43:55 <RichK67> svn:eol-style is all it says in my drop down... i have to type in what to set it to 17:44:11 <RichK67> "bugger this for a game of soldiers" comes to mind 17:44:47 <glx> you set it to native 17:44:58 <RichK67> ty.. clarity :) 17:45:24 <RichK67> and svn:keywords to ld? 17:45:33 <glx> yes 17:45:35 <Tron> no 17:45:44 <Tron> NOT 'l', but 'I' 17:45:54 <glx> shitf i :) 17:45:55 <RichK67> eye-dee 17:46:17 <peter1138> Id, as in the /* $Id$ */ thing at the top of each file 17:46:22 <peter1138> (it's not magic) 17:46:25 <RichK67> okies 17:46:28 <peter1138> ((well, not much)) 17:47:08 <Tron> /* $Id: tgp.c 0000 2006-05-02 19:35:36Z richk $ */^M <-- you edited this by hand? 17:47:43 <RichK67> does this only apply to code, or to the text files ive included for documentation? 17:48:08 <Tron> i bet half a dead pigeon that you can't commit this because of trailing whitespace 17:48:09 <RichK67> tron: probably; i didnt know how to get it in there... the SVN docs are useless 17:48:25 <RichK67> tron: since its already committed ;) 17:48:34 <Tron> no 17:48:43 <Tron> you have ^M at eol all the time 17:48:53 <Tron> by they get removed with eol-style native 17:49:08 <RichK67> its in the branch/MiniIN... didnt get there by magic... i committed it, it accepted it 17:49:20 <Tron> and a pre-commit hook will prevent any trailing whitespace being commited 17:49:27 <Tron> <Tron> you have ^M at eol all the time 17:49:40 <Tron> that's no whitespace 17:49:55 <Tron> but after removing that there's quite a chance there'll be trailing whitespace 17:50:17 <glx> ^M is DOS-eol 17:50:30 <Tron> perhaps that hook should be extended to decline ^M as well 17:50:33 <peter1138> our pre-commit hook shou.... 17:50:39 <RichK67> OK - Tron, please go write some wiki pages on the full details of this, because AFAIC these are mysterious unstated requirements.... the SVN accepted my commit... it therefore has NO trailing whitespace 17:50:39 <peter1138> *ding* :) 17:50:42 <Tron> peter1138: yep ^^ 17:50:42 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:51:01 <Tron> RichK67: do you even read what i write? 17:51:18 <Tron> you have no trailing whitespace per defintion right now 17:51:27 <Tron> because you have ^M at all line endings 17:51:44 <RichK67> do you? if I have COMMITTED these files to SVN branch... it HAS CHECKED for WHITESPACE... AND PASSED 17:51:48 <Tron> but by switching to native eol style the ^M will be removed 17:51:54 <peter1138> RichK67: "foo ^M" has no trailing whitespace. when removing the ^M, it'll become "foo ", hence it will have trailing whitespace 17:51:55 <RichK67> gah! 17:51:59 <Tron> HELL AM I TALKING CHINESE OR SOMETHING? 17:52:18 <RichK67> no, just explaining it in the wrong order 17:52:25 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-200-146.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:52:27 <Tron> no, in absolutly the correct order 17:52:29 <RichK67> by switching to native eol style the ^M will be removed ... should be first 17:52:39 <Tron> you just should read from top to bottom instead bottom to top 17:52:52 <peter1138> /* Original code developed by Hj. Malthaner 17:52:57 <RichK67> ok, so why change to native eol-style? 17:52:58 <peter1138> spaces there, heh 17:53:18 <Tron> #include "void_map.h"^M 17:53:18 <Tron> #include "tgp.h"^M 17:53:18 <Tron> ^M 17:53:20 <peter1138> because we don't all use windows 17:53:31 <Tron> because we get ^M all the time 17:53:41 <glx> because of stupid windows eol :) 17:54:04 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE656.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 17:54:07 <RichK67> yeah, CR-LF is really MS fault... it was around 20yrs before MS existed 17:54:31 <Tron> probably rather 100 years 17:54:38 <Tron> but notbody forced MS to use it 17:57:23 <RichK67> ok... so the full story is: other opsys's need eol-style set to "native". you need to change the properties for tgp.c, tgp.h, tgp_gui.c. and add the Id tag for their svn:keywords setting as well. the eol-style change will affect your line endings, and will create whitespace that will need to be removed... good luck... now isnt that clearer???? 17:57:39 <RichK67> a beginning, a middle, an end 17:57:48 <Tron> and will create whitespace that will need to be removed.. <--- NO 17:57:55 <Tron> the whitespace was already there 17:58:04 <glx> but wasn't detected 17:58:04 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6216.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 17:58:09 <Tron> there was just a ^M after it 17:58:17 <peter1138> there's 3 cases of trailing whitespace in tgp.c 17:58:20 <RichK67> same effect... 17:58:34 <peter1138> one in tgp_gui.c 17:59:09 <Tron> apropos... i have a script for this kind of problem 17:59:16 <glx> RichK67: and re-type the /* $Id$ */ line before commit 17:59:21 <Hackykid> maybe the precommit hook should scan for ^M and complain if one is found? 17:59:43 <peter1138> Hackykid: we said that 10 minutes ago ;) 18:00:09 <Hackykid> didnt you say ^m should be treated as whitespace? 18:00:15 <Tron> read the svn book chapter about properties, please. it's quite informative 18:00:16 <Hackykid> hmm, nvm 18:00:21 <RichK67> HackyKid: agreed it should all be automated 18:00:23 <Hackykid> amount to the same really :-p 18:00:29 <peter1138> Hackykid: pretty much :) 18:00:42 <CIA-3> tron * r5135 /trunk/music/qtmidi.c: Forgotten Id tag 18:00:59 <peter1138> heh 18:01:05 <peter1138> bjarni strikes again ;) 18:01:11 <Hackykid> something like default properties would be handy, too :-p 18:01:31 <Tron> yuck, i ran my "clean up the mess"-script on trunk 18:01:40 <peter1138> did it leave anything behind? 18:02:19 <Tron> there are 26 files, which have some kind of oddities 18:02:24 <Tron> that means: 18:02:28 <Tron> - wrong eol style 18:02:31 <Tron> - trailing whitespace 18:02:38 <Tron> - no \n at EOF 18:02:44 <Tron> - trailing empty lines 18:02:57 <RichK67> good - its not just me then 18:03:08 <Hackykid> which is BAD, not good 18:03:10 <Hackykid> :O 18:03:14 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 18:03:52 <RichK67> BTW... as i asked earlier; do i need to change eol-style for the documentation pages?? 18:04:03 <peter1138> any text file, yes 18:04:59 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-3424.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:05:08 *** e1ko_ [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 18:05:20 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:05:23 *** e1ko_ is now known as e1ko 18:08:17 <Belugas> RichK67, I have a zip file here, containing svn documentation. Quite helpfull. At work, I use svn, at home Tortoise. The doc applies to both. Do you want it? 18:08:41 <RichK67> i have both ... they are not written well; ive found them hard to follow 18:09:05 <peter1138> probably it doesn't explain things 3 times ;p 18:09:12 <Tron> i don't think the svn book is hard to follow 18:09:12 <RichK67> also, since a lot is optional and depends on what platform etc, then it doesnt say what applies to the OTTD SVN 18:09:19 <RichK67> FO 18:09:20 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 18:09:24 <peter1138> heh 18:09:32 <Tron> the integrated help in the svn client sucks, though 18:09:35 <peter1138> serious attitude problem 18:10:06 <Belugas> the help on Tortoise is a lot more complete. I like it very much 18:10:26 <Belugas> I mean... 18:10:41 <Belugas> it is the book, kind of 18:10:48 <CIA-3> tron * r5136 / (28 files in 8 dirs): 18:10:52 <CIA-3> Fix various style bugs: 18:10:54 <CIA-3> - Trailing whitespace 18:10:56 <CIA-3> - Trailing empty lines 18:10:57 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 18:10:58 <CIA-3> - Missing newline at EOF 18:11:00 <CIA-3> - Missing svn:eol-style native 18:11:10 <Belugas> and it even compares to svn regular operations 18:12:56 <CIA-3> richk * r5137 /branch/MiniIN/ (patches/MiniINpatches.txt tgp.c tgp.h tgp_gui.c): [MiniIN]: Updated eol-style and keywords on new files. (Thanks to Tron for pointing out, and everyone else for explaining what he meant in the most condescending way possible.) 18:13:42 <Tron> i didn't point it out, it was glx 18:15:00 *** orudge [n=orudge@host81-157-18-207.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["reboot"] 18:15:47 <Tron> if anybody interested in the script: it's on my ftp named "whitespace" 18:16:44 <CIA-3> tron * r5138 /trunk/yapf/ (binaryheap.hpp blob.hpp): Two more like r5136 18:17:23 <peter1138> hmm 18:17:25 <peter1138> why am i still here? 18:17:35 <Tron> because you haven't left 18:17:45 <Tron> but that's just a guess 18:17:57 <peter1138> correct though 18:18:57 <Belugas> because it is so pleasant in here, nobody want to leave! 18:19:06 <peter1138> :D 18:19:09 <peter1138> well, i'm going home 18:19:17 <Belugas> Home... what a strange place to be o_O 18:19:26 <Tron> ::1, sweet ::1 18:20:40 <Noldo> Tron: oh, that's what it is in ipv6? 18:21:01 <Tron> yep 18:21:30 <Noldo> neater than in ipv4 18:23:56 <hylje> s/neater/nastier ? 18:25:26 <CIA-3> richk * r5139 / (65 files in 14 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk. r5087-5136 18:25:57 <Tron> hylje: 127.0.0.1 is way more to type than ::1, therefore "neater" 18:25:59 *** orudge [n=orudge@host81-157-18-207.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:26:30 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 18:26:31 <Tron> ok, you can shorten it to 127.1 in IPv4 18:26:33 <Tron> still longer 18:27:41 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 18:29:51 <Rubidium> Tron, do you have any objections/suggestions to http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/engine_aging.diff or http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/engine_aging_2.diff (only difference is naming of enums)? 18:30:23 <Tron> what does it do? 18:30:38 <RichK67> possibly renames some enums?? 18:30:45 <Rubidium> two things: it moves some magic numbers to enums 18:31:05 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 18:31:10 <Belugas> Home Sweet Home... well, right now, is not quite sweeter then the office. My cellphone keeps on ringing for work, even at home :( 18:31:39 <Rubidium> and it changes the behaviour if you start after 2050; if you start after 2050, you will get the reliability the engines 'had' in 2050 (as after 2050 aging of engines stops) 18:32:28 <Tron> so a consistency problem gets fixed 18:32:43 <Tron> starting after 2050 gave different results than starting before and waiting 18:33:09 <Tron> sounds good to me 18:33:29 <Tron> hm, i don't like the 365.25 18:34:25 <Rubidium> yes 18:34:27 <peter1138> 366 is used elsewhere 18:34:32 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:42 <peter1138> or just used 365 18:34:50 <peter1138> i'll only be a minor inconsistency 18:35:25 <Rubidium> could also be 365, as that does not matter that much I guess 18:35:46 <Tron> well, 365.25 is right for the date ranged covered by ottd and can be exactly represented as floating point number 18:36:00 <Tron> but in general...no, i don't like it 18:36:04 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Mmm, television..."] 18:37:39 <peter1138> * 1461 / 4 ? 18:38:21 <Tron> yes, but still 18:38:26 <peter1138> magic 18:38:56 <Tron> but if the date range gets increased before 1900 (no leap year) ... 18:39:36 <Rubidium> I know, I've been busy with enhancing peter1138's past2090 patch, which currently accounts for leap years etc 18:40:31 <Rubidium> but it is easier to do it when you take the year 0 as base (or 1600) 18:40:51 <peter1138> year 0 as base makes sense 18:41:03 <hylje> starting game at year 0.. sweet 18:41:07 <peter1138> does it take account of 1752? 18:41:22 <RichK67> question about the Id line in new files. when initially creating a brand new file (ie. pre-commit), do you manually enter the Id comment line, or leave it out to be added by the system?? 18:41:35 <peter1138> put it in as /* $Id$ */ 18:41:45 <RichK67> ty 18:42:03 <Sacro> peter1138: dont bring 1752 into this :P 18:42:11 <Rubidium> no, it doesn't 18:42:43 <Rubidium> but, then you need to take care of the Julian calendar too 18:42:44 <peter1138> of course 18:42:51 <RichK67> when it gets committed, will the "creator" be set to the person who commits? is there any way to appear as the initial creator, when it is added from a patch file? 18:42:52 <peter1138> years start at 1, not 0 ;) 18:43:25 <Hackykid> whats so special about 1752? 18:43:40 <RichK67> skipped 11days 18:44:07 <Hackykid> heh 18:44:08 <peter1138> Hackykid: cal 9 1752 :) 18:45:32 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3F9B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:43 <Sacro> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 18:45:43 <Sacro> 1 2 14 15 16 18:45:48 <RichK67> the julian calendar had got out of sync with the celestial cycle, so mid-summer was about 11days out; so they skipped to correct it, and introduced the Gregorian calendar which does a better job at staying in sync... (i think, from memory, which means im probably wrong) 18:45:51 <Sacro> hmm, something not quite right... 18:47:15 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F40D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:47:17 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:47:24 <Rubidium> though, if you want to account for that, you need to know the country you're in, as that leap isn't done everywhere in the same year 18:47:24 <RichK67> there were riots with people wanting their 11/12 days of life back 18:47:59 <Tron> september 1752 is this above, i guess 18:48:04 <Tron> that's the date for britain 18:48:15 <Tron> they were one of the last countries to make the switch 18:48:30 <peter1138> yeah 18:50:06 <hylje> RichK67: 1752 called, they want their 11/12 days back 18:59:12 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:59:52 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 19:03:52 <Rubidium> Tron: I've found an API to calculate the 'exact' date, using ConvertYMDToDay, is that better? (http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/engine_aging_3.diff) 19:05:03 <RichK67> lol - the only tool i have that RELIABLY finds whitespace at end of line... is MS WORD ;) 19:06:22 <Tron> %s/[ ]*$// 19:06:34 <peter1138> vim :D 19:06:51 <Tron> even ed 19:07:04 <Tron> my whitespace script uses ed 19:07:17 <RichK67> hmm... i grew out of command line editors about... 25years ago.... 19:07:56 <Hackykid> hmmm... ed, is that like sed? 19:08:11 <Tron> will, without the "s" 19:08:16 <Tron> (Stream) 19:08:21 <Belugas> I'm re-learning using CLI since OpenTTD 19:08:39 <peter1138> RichK67: you lose a lot of power by using gui tools. such as the ability to find line endings :P 19:08:43 <Hackykid> hmm, right 19:08:44 <RichK67> ed, edlin and vi... much hated throwbacks 19:08:48 <Tron> what kind of editor do you use which can detect/kill trailing whitespace? 19:08:54 <hylje> edlin :> 19:09:05 <Tron> every editor supporting regular expressions it's dead easy 19:09:17 <Tron> and i know of some editors which have an explicit option to remove it 19:09:20 <peter1138> even MS VS 2003/2005 support regexs 19:09:24 <RichK67> ^w^p search in MS Word is fine 19:09:47 <Tron> the latter btw was the reason for the commit hook, because these editors are very, very nasty and produce many stray changes in commits 19:10:25 <Tron> peter1138: but even the latest version of VS still can't properly end the last line of a file with a newline 19:10:39 <peter1138> nope 19:10:44 <Belugas> Tortoise has an advantage over svn, in my opinion. Each file/folder that are changed can easily be spotted by its icon. 19:10:48 <Tron> which according to the C standard leads to undefined behavior 19:10:55 <peter1138> and it doesn't show trailing whitespace 19:11:01 <Tron> though all compilers i know handle it in a sane way 19:11:03 <peter1138> it's either all whitespace, or nothing, which is useless 19:11:28 <peter1138> Belugas: yeah, if you like it taking 5 minutes to display 19:11:31 <hylje> undefined behaviour :) 19:11:33 <Tron> :set list 19:11:36 <Tron> in vi is rather nice 19:11:41 <peter1138> exactly 19:11:49 <peter1138> it just does it right 19:11:50 <Tron> it shows tabs as ^I and the line ending explicitly as $ 19:11:52 <RichK67> in regexp... what search finds whitespace at eol?? 19:12:02 <Tron> <Tron> %s/[ ]*$// 19:12:07 <Belugas> peter1138 my machine is fast enough to handle that :) 19:12:09 <RichK67> i have Notepad2 which supports it. 19:12:10 <peter1138> / +$/ 19:12:13 <Tron> % -> all lines 19:12:19 <Tron> s -> substitute 19:12:26 <peter1138> hmm, yeah, need tabs too 19:12:31 <Tron> s/$PATTERN/$REPLACEMENT/ 19:12:39 <peter1138> Belugas: you'd think an athlon 2400+ could cope... 19:12:45 <Tron> between the [] there's supposed to be a space and a tab 19:13:20 <Tron> [] -> match anything between the [] 19:13:20 <Belugas> Duron 900, 300ram is enough! 19:13:25 <Tron> * -> any number of times 19:13:29 <Tron> $ -> the line end 19:13:38 <Tron> and replace it with nothing 19:13:48 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 19:14:47 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6216.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:14:47 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6216.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:15:21 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6556.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:16:33 <peter1138> Belugas: when you've got a folder with a couple of dozen svn repos, it's not fast :) 19:17:40 <Rubidium> Tron: http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/engine_aging_3.diff <- better? 19:18:06 <Tron> probably yes 19:18:13 <RichK67> ty, ill use Notepad2 to do final cleanup then 19:18:17 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:19:03 <Tron> if you're eager move the date conversion before the loop 19:19:19 <Belugas> peter1138 I have : trunk, reference, newcargo, newindustry, newhouse, tfc_newmap. Agreed it takes a bit of time to display icons on the folders, but once the main directory is opened, it is quite comfy 19:20:12 <peter1138> i've ... a bit more than that :-) 19:21:59 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:22:06 <RichK67> try %s/[\t ]+$// finds/replaces on lines that have one or more of a tab or space, followed by end of line 19:22:49 <Tron> hm? 19:22:50 <peter1138> isn't that what was said? 19:23:51 <Tron> yes, it is 19:23:52 <RichK67> said, but not encoded.... you had the space+, and spoke of doing the tabs as well 19:24:13 <Tron> my stupid irc client just doesn't allow me to enter tabs 19:24:15 <RichK67> look - im trying to learn this stuff.... 19:24:49 <RichK67> since you guys haul me over the coals when it isnt "perfect" according to the "rules" 19:25:07 <Tron> also + isn't canon in regexpes 19:25:57 <RichK67> if it works, its good enough for me, regardless of whether it meets the ISO-**** standard 19:26:18 <Tron> it might work with some regexp libs 19:26:27 <Tron> with others it doesn't 19:26:47 <Tron> %echo 'asd ' | grep ' +$' 19:26:47 <Tron> % 19:28:13 <RichK67> but is there a line break there.... or just an EOL 19:28:32 <Tron> hm? 19:28:54 <RichK67> ie chr 0A or a chr 00 19:29:01 <glx> where? 19:29:10 <RichK67> in 'asd ' 19:29:14 <Tron> ASCII 0 ist NUL 19:29:21 <Tron> that's never part of a text file 19:29:30 <Hackykid> echo adds a newline by default 19:29:46 <glx> RichK67: it was an example of non handled '+' in regexp 19:29:51 <RichK67> ok 19:30:08 <RichK67> shows not all command line systems are worth the effort ;) 19:30:31 <Hackykid> huh? 19:30:37 <Tron> (egrep, grep -e or escaping the +, i.e. \+, handles the +, btw) 19:30:41 <peter1138> funny thing is, you sound like someone in denial ;p 19:30:54 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6216.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:31:21 <Tron> RichK67: explain, i don't understand what you mean 19:31:31 <RichK67> no, in hatred... i absolutely detest every occasion i have to use something where it takes a magic set of -e -w -crap modifiers to get it to do anything 19:31:44 <Tron> it's called backward compatibilty 19:31:49 <RichK67> WIMPs are an improvement 19:31:51 <Tron> er... with less typos 19:31:56 <Tron> + came later 19:32:02 <RichK67> it's called backward 19:32:15 <Hackykid> ohoh 19:32:27 <Tron> and existing programs using using + as regular char in a regexp shouldn't get broken 19:32:50 <Tron> RichK67: go troll elsewhere 19:33:47 <RichK67> im not trolling, im answering peter's "denial" question... it is my 100% opinion... if it isnt kosher to have such opinions... then im not the one with a problem ;) 19:34:53 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:35:14 <peter1138> hmm, damn, openttd.grf sprites 95 to 98 are not glyphs :/ 19:35:36 <RichK67> ive written manuals in ed, sed, vi, MS Word 2.0, Lotus whatever it was... , MS Word 5, 6, 2000, Aldus Pagemaker.... i would choose ANY of the gui ones every time over the line editors... that isnt a wrong opinion to have is it??? 19:35:48 <hylje> yes it is 19:35:48 <Tron> "the ken of many people is a circle with radius zero. They call it their viewpoint" 19:35:57 <peter1138> RichK67: for manuals, no 19:36:50 <peter1138> and what is sprite 635 for, anyway? 19:36:52 <Tron> writing a manual in word? sorry, word isn't suitable to write anything longer than say 3 pages 19:36:58 <Hackykid> hmm, when did the discussion revert to the gui/cli thingy? 19:37:05 <peter1138> Tron: that's about all my manuals get up to :) 19:37:17 <RichK67> lol - true, but often you have to write it in whatever the client wants 19:37:44 <Tron> peter1138: what are 95 till 98? 19:37:49 <RichK67> my largest is 1300+ pages; about 250,000 words 19:37:58 <peter1138> Tron: black arrows for gui parts 19:37:58 <RichK67> in Word 19:38:11 <peter1138> actually, what i am i thinking... 19:39:09 * peter1138 modifies DrawArrowButtons 19:39:47 <RichK67> LOL - Tron: "the ken of many people is a circle with radius zero. They call it their viewpoint" <- you are entitled to your viewpoint ;) 19:41:45 <Tron> i saw quite some people writing longer stuff, like a diploma thesis or something, in word. and i saw them struggling, when it skrewed up the typesetting etc. for no apparent reason 19:42:05 <Tron> writing anything longer without a proper typesetting system is just plain stupid 19:42:31 <Hackykid> some people like challanges? :-p 19:42:33 <RichK67> yeah, some of it is plain daft... like the format of a section is defined in the section break at the END of the section..... 19:42:58 <RichK67> go on HK... anything to change topics 19:43:26 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:44:21 <Hackykid> hehe 19:44:40 <anboni> RichK67, you mean there's actually been some consistent logic thinking went into the design of Word? 19:44:54 <hylje> no 19:45:28 <Tron> i advise you to get familar with regexpes. they're a powerful tool, even though from a computer science POV they're the smallest and least powerful class of languages. grep will be always there... 19:45:35 <RichK67> yeah, the flight simulator is very good :) 19:46:01 <RichK67> or is that in Excel, i forget which ;) 19:46:08 <anboni> hehe 19:46:31 <hylje> egrep 19:46:34 <Osai> hey RichK67, we start a new coop game tonight 19:46:49 <RichK67> sure - ive printed a list of the regexps.... sitting in front of me... i will probably switch permanently to Notepad2 to use it 19:47:03 <RichK67> hi Osai: need a TGP landscape?? 19:48:49 <Osai> join #openttdcoop 19:49:23 <hylje> hmm 19:49:57 <hylje> how should i remove files whose filename matches a regexp recursively in a directory system 19:50:22 <RichK67> carefully ;) 19:50:46 <Hackykid> hmm 19:51:01 <Hackykid> rm `find | grep "regexp"` or so 19:51:03 *** znikoz [i=1@ant-154.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:34 <Hackykid> hmm can be better though 19:52:11 <valhallasw> what the... 19:52:31 <valhallasw> If Ï want to update to rev 5132 19:52:34 <Tron> find . -exec grep -q $PATTERN {} \; -exec rm {} \; 19:52:34 <valhallasw> svn up -r 5132 19:52:41 <valhallasw> would be the right thing to do, right? 19:52:48 <glx> valhallasw: yes 19:53:14 <hylje> hmm, the directories have spaces in them too 19:53:17 <valhallasw> ...aaah nm 19:53:22 <Hackykid> Tron: hmm, interesting 19:53:28 <valhallasw> it's updating to r5132 in the /047 branch 19:53:49 <Tron> svn info . 19:54:03 <valhallasw> URL: svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.4.5 19:54:10 <Tron> there's your answer 19:54:15 <valhallasw> 21:53 < valhallasw> it's updating to r5132 in the /047 branch 19:54:16 <valhallasw> ;) 19:54:20 <Tron> svn switch svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk 19:54:25 <Tron> if you want trunk 19:55:13 <Tron> i doubt it does that. that would be a rather gross and therefore probably known bug in svn 19:55:15 <glx> or svn://svn.openttd.org/branch/0.4 if you want 0.4.7 + bugfixes 19:56:34 <Tron> valhallasw: or do you mean "it displays a new version number but doesn't change any files"? 19:56:43 <valhallasw> nope Tron 19:56:51 <valhallasw> that was what I needed :) 19:57:00 <valhallasw> ottcoop main is switching to SVN again ;) 19:57:12 <Tron> *shrug* 19:57:17 <Sacro> great scott, 1.21 GIGAWATTS 19:59:12 <Tron> watching to much back to the future? 19:59:59 <valhallasw> hrm... 20:00:05 <RichK67> thats about the power of a radar i used to work on ;) 1.25GW down a beam about 2ft across at the radar aperture :) cook them birds!!!! 20:00:17 <valhallasw> ===> Generating table/strings.h 20:00:17 <valhallasw> lang/english.txt:2861: Error: Undefined command 'WEIGHT' 20:00:18 <valhallasw> (...) 20:00:23 * valhallasw curses 20:00:44 <glx> wrong strgen i guess 20:00:50 <valhallasw> hm 20:02:01 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:02:08 *** Xeryus|slaap [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 20:04:25 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Darkvater, amix, Triffid_Hunter, Vornicus, FredNeuberger, Jezral, dp--, Prof_Frink, LIIT, @peter1138, (+63 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:04:32 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176096241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:04:50 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37653.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:04:59 *** Netsplit over, joins: LIIT, Triffid_Hunter, @Bjarni, znikoz, |Jeroen|, christooss, Tron, RichK67, orudge, e1ko (+59 more) 20:04:59 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37653.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:13 *** LadyHawk- [i=here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:05:13 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:05:13 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:14 *** glx_ [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:14 *** Pixelz [i=pix@62.65.104.4] has joined #openttd 20:05:15 <valhallasw> okay fresh dir works 20:05:15 <valhallasw> so... 20:05:17 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:05:31 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:05:34 *** LadyHawk [i=here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:05:36 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 20:05:53 *** A1win [i=a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:05:57 *** A1win [i=a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 20:05:59 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:06:13 *** glx_ is now known as glx 20:12:24 <peter1138> a fairly route loss, eh 20:13:49 <RichK67> yeah, looks like we survived that split :) 20:13:51 <Darkvater> he, had some eol-style fun I see ;p 20:13:58 <hylje> RichK67: no we didnt 20:14:14 <RichK67> me, me say nothing... its all in the .log ;) 20:16:07 <Darkvater> oh yeah, read it... :) 20:17:14 <Darkvater> RichK67: better get acquainted with the command line :) 20:17:38 <RichK67> heck, i know i need guidance... its just the more experienced could be a little clearer giving it.... ive only been programming C for 7mths... and SVN is still a bit of a mysterious world 20:18:45 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:18:46 *** fusee is now known as fusey 20:18:58 <Darkvater> well I might be slightly biased but Tron was absolutely clear 20:19:01 <RichK67> weird really - in my current work, a command line system would be a significant step up... we are literally coding in hex 20:19:03 <glx> RichK67: warning in rail_cmd.c (Autosignal) 20:19:04 <Darkvater> although I already know svn :p 20:19:18 <RichK67> glx: MiniIN? 20:19:23 <glx> yes 20:19:30 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176096241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:19:38 <glx> that's why I say it to you RichK67 :) 20:19:42 <RichK67> you'll have to specify, cos my build was clean 20:20:22 *** sway_ [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:20:31 <Darkvater> ok checking airport diff :) 20:20:44 <glx> ===> Compiling rail_cmd.c 20:20:44 <glx> rail_cmd.c: In function `CompleteAutoSignals': 20:20:44 <glx> rail_cmd.c:726: warning: 'exit_tile' might be used uninitialized in this function 20:20:50 <RichK67> woohoo 20:21:11 <glx> RichK67: just add an INVALID_TILE near exit_tile declaration 20:21:30 <Darkvater> peter1138: hehe commit r5134, nice :D 20:21:58 *** jacke^ [n=mm@h175n4fls32o1104.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:22:12 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:22:13 <peter1138> ^^ 20:22:33 <peter1138> i've a patch that makes strgen complain if its input is invalid 20:22:37 <RichK67> still dont get a warning here :( 20:22:58 <peter1138> not applied as it, er, breaks on everything except ukrainian and russian 20:23:08 <Darkvater> RichK67: it depends on the compiler 20:23:32 <Noldo> and switches 20:24:45 <RichK67> hmm... exit_tile is declared on 726, and initialised in both halves of an if... i will have to have words with Hazelrah... 20:25:01 <RichK67> exit_tile = INVALID_TILE; ?? 20:25:06 <glx> yes 20:25:31 <RichK67> ty 20:26:40 <glx> RichK67: bad coding style too :) 20:26:54 <CIA-3> richk * r5140 /branch/MiniIN/rail_cmd.c: 20:26:54 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [SignalAutoCompletion]: exit_tile needed initialisation prior to use in AutoCompletion function. 20:26:54 <CIA-3> Thanks to glx for spotting it. 20:27:06 <Hackykid> hmmm 20:31:20 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5141 /branch/utf8/ (lang/english.txt strgen/strgen.c table/control_codes.h): [utf8] Add strgen codes SMALL[LEFT|RIGHT]ARROW for using original sprite-based '<' and '>' as GUI controls (in difficulty settings and patches windows) 20:31:51 *** znikoz [i=1@ant-154.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:38:33 <RichK67> DV: any problems with airports you can see? 20:43:35 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 20:45:42 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:47:10 <Belugas_Gone> good night 20:51:18 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:54:15 <Darkvater> RichK67: yes, I took a shower ;p 21:00:26 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 21:01:17 <RichK67> lol:) 21:01:23 <[Shaman]> ooOOoo another miniIN update 21:01:59 <glx> [Shaman]: no new patch in it 21:02:19 <[Shaman]> glx: it's still updated :) 21:02:19 <RichK67> just trunk, and bugfixes 21:04:00 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:04:53 <[Shaman]> no vs_80 sln file for mini_in tho.. ah well.. let's make one :P 21:05:52 <Hackykid> hmm, got a pbs diff against r5069 now, i'll take on r5070 (new bridges stuff) next weekend or so :-p 21:06:44 <Sacro> Hackykid: nice one! 21:08:45 <[Shaman]> thar, vs80++ 21:08:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:11:07 <RichK67> well done... 21:16:44 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181101113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:17:59 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:58 <[Shaman]> now lets see if we can compile :o 21:20:04 <[Shaman]> dmksctrl.h .. is from the DX sdk i presume 21:22:59 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944B6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 21:27:43 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:28:17 *** Dred_furst` is now known as Dred_furst 21:30:13 *** jacke^ [n=mm@h175n4fls32o1104.telia.com] has quit ["hej"] 21:31:07 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:32:31 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:39:24 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 21:42:25 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 21:42:58 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6556.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 21:44:27 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:46:03 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit ["En KLAP.. de klaptop is dicht..."] 21:46:15 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:49:44 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:49:51 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-200-146.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 21:51:20 *** Xeryus|slaap is now known as XeryusTC 21:51:55 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:53:51 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 21:54:54 <[Shaman]> RichK67: Ping 21:55:49 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B850BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:56:13 <RichK67> pong 21:56:42 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 21:56:48 <[Shaman]> when compiling I end up with this: 21:56:48 <[Shaman]> landscape.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol @GenerateTerrainPerlin@8 referenced in function @GenerateLandscape@0 21:56:48 <[Shaman]> main_gui.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol @ShowGenerateLandscape@4 referenced in function @ScenEditLandGenWndProc@8 21:56:48 <[Shaman]> misc_gui.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol @ShowGenerateLandscape@4 21:57:03 <[Shaman]> you happen to know what that is? 21:57:15 <Darkvater> you're missing tgp.c 21:57:29 <RichK67> check that tgp.c is in your list of files for compiling 21:57:31 <Darkvater> why aren't you just using openttd.sln? 21:57:45 <[Shaman]> Darkvater: I upgraded that .sln to vs8.0 21:58:27 <RichK67> hmm... need an easy path from Makefile -> .sln :( 21:58:28 <Darkvater> that should not not make it work 21:59:06 * [Shaman] attempts again 21:59:21 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 21:59:31 <[Shaman]> Darkvater: The 'origional' sln didn't have tgp.(h|c) either. 21:59:48 <Darkvater> ah... bad RichK67 ;) 22:00:14 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:00:15 <[Shaman]> ooOoooo different errors now 22:00:20 <[Shaman]> wait 22:00:26 <[Shaman]> still the 2nd and third :o 22:00:45 <glx> try tgp_gui.c too :) 22:01:05 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498D98A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:01:45 <[Shaman]> indeed 22:01:51 <RichK67> bah!! if there was a guide to what requirements are needed for other compilers, then i could update the Makefile -equivalents 22:01:52 * [Shaman] rebuilds 22:02:41 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:43 <Darkvater> RichK67: isn't that simple? If you add a file you need to change the appropiate build-files 22:02:47 <[Shaman]> ========== Rebuild All: 3 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped ========== 22:02:51 <Darkvater> eg makefile, and openttd.vcproj 22:02:51 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 22:03:10 <Darkvater> don't bother openttd.dsw and don't even try to do anything with that crap OS2 project nightmare 22:03:22 <Darkvater> those guys should be shot, on the spot 22:03:28 <RichK67> i only know of Makefile... im new to C, let alone C using a different compiler to the one i use... gimme a break! 22:03:56 * [Shaman] gives RichK67 a break 22:04:01 <[Shaman]> I know how you feel :p 22:04:50 <RichK67> if you sort it out, PM me the file, and i will add it to the branch 22:04:58 <RichK67> PM the diff even 22:05:07 <RichK67> or a .patch, or ..... 22:05:10 <[Shaman]> It 'seems' to work 22:05:40 <[Shaman]> though I doubt a .patch/.diff would be usable since it'll have my settings all over the place :p 22:06:43 <[Shaman]> odd.. the .exe file size went from 1.8m to 2.8m O_O 22:09:11 <[Shaman]> ah ffs 22:09:32 <[Shaman]> invalid version of language files 22:10:59 <CIA-3> glx * r5142 /branch/MiniIN/openttd.vcproj: [MiniIN]: [TGP]: Add tgp*.[ch] in openttd.vcproj 22:11:16 <[Shaman]> AH! 22:11:19 <glx> RichK67: this is how it can be done :) 22:11:45 <[Shaman]> it runs \e/ 22:11:58 <[Shaman]> ahem 22:12:01 * [Shaman] crashed it ^^ 22:12:53 <RichK67> okk... thanks glx :) 22:13:09 <RichK67> (the first non-richk contribution) :) 22:13:09 <[Shaman]> I think it might -not- be a wise thing to load old scenarios in a new miniIN :P 22:13:54 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 22:14:01 <RichK67> yeah, my understanding of writing old version parsers is poor - it may not like it 22:14:31 <[Shaman]> well at an attempt to load an old scen it just.. crashed :P 22:14:37 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 22:16:16 <[Shaman]> ah, when in release mode it gives a nice error 22:16:45 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:17:35 <RichK67> the version has been bumped, although ive not checked if it is still +1 compared to trunk... previous MiniIN games should have real problems too 22:18:19 * [Shaman] nods 22:20:48 <RichK67> lol - it is so tempting to accidentally select "SVN Commit" instead of "SVN Update" in Tortoise on the TGP patch :) 22:21:01 <[Shaman]> lol 22:25:04 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-185-174.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:27:04 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:28:29 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-36-192.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:32:33 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:47 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit ["En KLAP.. de klaptop is dicht..."] 22:40:20 *** Belugas [n=jfranc@ip-224.41.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:11 <Sacro> all gone quiet 22:41:13 <Belugas> home... peace and quiet...at last :) 22:41:24 <Belugas> quiet is good 22:41:48 <Belugas> hello Sacro, i'm about to put my kid in his bath 22:42:07 <Sacro> Belugas: that'll ruin the quiet :) 22:42:35 *** lws1984 is now known as Radio 22:43:05 <Radio> I CAN'T GET NO! I CAN'T GET NO! NO SATIS FACTIOON, NO SATIS-FACTION! 22:43:09 *** Radio is now known as lws1984 22:43:13 <lws1984> :p 22:43:18 <Sacro> tune 22:43:23 <lws1984> lol 22:43:47 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:45:53 <Belugas> PLOIUFFFF 22:46:19 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:47:39 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 22:47:45 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:48:47 <Sacro> ? 22:49:53 <Belugas> my kid is in his bath :) 22:50:55 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387D840.versanet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:55:39 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 22:56:41 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 22:57:38 <Sacro> ok 23:01:49 *** spiff_ [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 23:02:38 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:05:11 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 23:05:15 *** spiff [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #openttd 23:05:45 *** orudge [n=orudge@host81-157-18-207.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:09:36 <Sacro> hmm, its 6/6/6 23:09:49 <gradator> ;) 23:10:19 <gradator> and 6h6m6s in about 5h here ;) 23:10:34 <Sacro> 6 hours here 23:12:21 <Prof_Frink> He is awake 23:12:29 * Prof_Frink is now known as Ood 23:13:29 *** orudge [n=orudge@host81-157-18-207.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:14:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 23:16:07 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-237-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:18:29 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE656.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:20:05 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:20:46 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:57 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-208-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:00 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:25:09 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:33 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:27:37 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:03 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Client Quit] 23:28:18 <Darkvater> gn all 23:28:58 <lws1984> gnight 23:30:52 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:31:44 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-202-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:35:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B772C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:32 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176096241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 23:37:35 *** belugas_home [n=jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 23:41:11 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit ["leaving"] 23:46:11 *** Belugas_ [n=jfranc@ip-224.41.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 23:46:55 *** Belugas [n=jfranc@ip-224.41.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:49:48 *** Belugas_ [n=jfranc@ip-224.41.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:50:34 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-36-192.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 23:50:59 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:51:58 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 23:52:01 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:55:09 *** Osai^zZz [n=Osai@p54B37653.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:55:19 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77379.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]