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00:01:38 *** Kjetil [kjetil@81.166.7.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:54 *** A1win^ [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 00:09:32 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Lag: 4s ... that does not sound good 00:12:19 *** Sio [~sphinx@cpc2-norw5-0-0-cust889.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:15:00 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:31 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust334.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:23 *** Ammler [~Ammler@84-207.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 00:18:47 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:19:49 *** Ammler_away [~Ammler@84-207.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:21:53 *** Sio [~sphinx@cpc2-norw5-0-0-cust889.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:35 *** Sio [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust334.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:40:59 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 00:45:10 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, Gonozal_VIII, +tokai, Serriaromeo, A1win^, Hagbard_, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 00:46:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:46:21 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, Sio, A1win^, Serriaromeo, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 00:51:25 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, Serriaromeo, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 00:52:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Serriaromeo, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 01:12:43 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 01:18:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:05 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 01:39:07 *** MrJohnson [~jp@catv-59845bd7.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:02 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2DE32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 01:54:25 *** Ammler [~Ammler@84-207.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:07:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:13:45 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, Serriaromeo, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 02:15:20 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Serriaromeo, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 02:20:58 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, Serriaromeo, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 02:22:36 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Serriaromeo, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 02:25:20 *** Col_aussiegolfer{FWLM-C} [~dmcleod83@castor.usq.edu.au] has joined #openttd 02:27:09 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2DD35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:32:57 *** Col_aussiegolfer{FWLM-C} [~dmcleod83@castor.usq.edu.au] has quit [] 02:35:28 *** peter1138 [~peter@195.112.37.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:38:52 *** peter1139 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 02:45:03 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, peter1139, Serriaromeo, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:45:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, peter1139, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Serriaromeo, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron (+1 more) 02:55:24 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, Serriaromeo, peter1139, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 03:01:26 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Sleep. It kills the Borg, so it's GOT to do something good for us normal folk!] 03:02:05 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 03:07:03 *** Torm [~adam@vpnc-stu-23-105.murdoch.edu.au] has joined #openttd 03:07:03 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 03:10:35 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:14:16 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 03:24:03 *** Torm [~adam@vpnc-stu-23-105.murdoch.edu.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 03:52:28 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 03:52:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, peter1138, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 04:06:33 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 04:06:41 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 04:14:15 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> europa.oftc.net quits: _42_ 04:15:03 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 04:15:37 *** Netsplit over, joins: peter1138 04:17:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: _42_ 04:24:31 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 04:36:09 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 04:40:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 04:40:50 <mikk36> so this network is now officially fucked too ? 04:43:11 <mikk36> ehh.. nice fog i have here 04:43:20 <mikk36> visibility ~100-150m 04:43:23 <mikk36> roughly 04:43:45 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 04:43:53 <mikk36> i barely see the other end of my ouse 04:43:57 <mikk36> house* 04:50:51 <Zaviori> :) 04:52:14 *** robozoo is now known as roboboy 04:54:16 *** Guest56 [Gono@N818P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 04:55:50 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, Gonozal_VIII, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 04:56:36 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B359BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:57:18 *** peter1139 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 04:57:19 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Gonozal_VIII, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 04:59:31 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N840P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:01:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B756ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:02:36 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 05:02:52 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 05:05:21 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has joined #openttd 05:07:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7579B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:25 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 05:30:05 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 05:33:13 *** mikk36[EST] [mikk36@pc83.host3.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 05:37:45 <Smoky555> Good morning :) 05:38:46 <Smoky555> how about - http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=493872#493872 ? Is it possible to realize? 05:40:13 *** mikk36 [mikk36@62.65.193.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:41:59 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, ThePizzaKing, mikk36[EST], peter1139, Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 05:42:17 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 05:42:18 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, mikk36[EST], ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 05:46:19 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 05:48:32 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: Sio, +tokai, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, mikk36[EST], Hagbard_, A1win^, GoneWacko, TinoDidri, Tron 05:51:31 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:51:31 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51:32 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:59:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: peter1138 05:59:30 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc83.host3.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 05:59:36 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, ThePizzaKing, Sio, A1win^, Hagbard_, +tokai, Tron, TinoDidri 06:03:27 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:11 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B359BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 06:15:24 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 06:19:29 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-204-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:20:53 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3CEDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 06:23:30 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F266.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:29:27 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29:27 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29:30 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:29:42 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:32:07 *** kjetil [kjetil@161.81-166-7.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:10 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:44:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:00:19 *** Sio is now known as Sionide 07:15:41 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B359BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:25:07 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 07:34:56 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:45:20 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-151-51.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 07:47:07 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 07:47:07 <kjetil> !logs 07:47:39 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3F266.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:47:45 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3F266.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 07:54:18 <DarkSSHClone> morning 07:54:21 *** DarkSSHClone is now known as Darkvater 07:57:53 <Neonox> morning 08:06:17 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:06:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:08:18 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C3C7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:09:52 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: +tokai, ThePizzaKing, peter1138, DaleStan, Sionide, kjetil, Zaviori, Osai, Hagbard_, A1win^, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 08:16:20 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Killed (hydrogen.oftc.net (Nick collision (new)))] 08:16:20 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:16:20 *** peter1139 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 08:16:20 *** Netsplit over, joins: GoneWacko, Osai, kjetil, Zaviori, Tron, DaleStan, mikk36, ThePizzaKing, Sionide, A1win^ (+3 more) 08:16:20 *** peter1139 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: peter1138 08:19:35 <mikk36> this sucks 08:20:46 <Neonox> Tron: ping 08:21:03 <Capn_Frink> Arr, we should mutiny and sail th' channel back to the safe haven of freenode! 08:22:34 *** kjetil is now known as Kjetil 08:23:50 *** peter1139 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:57 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:18 <Bjarni> mutany is where you kill the captain.... 08:28:00 <Capn_Frink> Aye. 08:28:08 <Capn_Frink> Oh, cock 08:28:42 *** JohnUK89 [~d445e7e2@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 08:29:06 <JohnUK89> Ello all :) 08:29:09 <Capn_Frink> I be no' the cap'n of #openttd! Bjarni be wearing the cap'n's hat! 08:29:18 <Capn_Frink> Ahoy JohnUK89! 08:29:30 <Bjarni> but you don't want to kill me 08:29:32 <JohnUK89> Ahoy Capn_Frink! 08:29:41 <Bjarni> then you will never get the patch that I'm working on 08:29:48 <JohnUK89> Ahoy Bjarni! 08:30:04 <Capn_Frink> Arr, but ye be not peter1139. 08:30:08 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: it's Capn_Frink, who is on a pirate trip, not me 08:30:19 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: +tokai, ThePizzaKing, peter1139, DaleStan, Sionide, Kjetil, Zaviori, Hagbard_, A1win^, mikk36, (+5 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 08:30:19 <Capn_Frink> Bjarni: It's ITLAPD! 08:30:31 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zavior 08:30:45 <JohnUK89> Ello Bjarni then ;-) 08:30:52 <Bjarni> hi lolman 08:30:53 * JohnUK89 has moved to Leeds :-D 08:30:56 <Bjarni> nice to see you 08:30:58 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 08:32:19 <lolman> Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum me hearties! 08:32:46 <Capn_Frink> Long_John_UK89! 08:34:00 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B359BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** Kjetil [kjetil@161.81-166-7.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F266.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc83.host3.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust334.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** A1win^ [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81723.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** TinoDidri [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:34:00 *** ServerMode/#openttd [+v tokai] by neutron.oftc.net 08:35:27 *** lolman is now known as LongJohnSilver 08:35:29 <LongJohnSilver> Yarrrrr!! 08:41:10 <LongJohnSilver> Argh someone's got crappy music on :-\ 08:43:42 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:00 <LongJohnSilver> peter1138: morning :) 08:46:31 *** LongJohnSilver is now known as JohnUK89 08:49:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81723.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:51:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:51:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:52:04 <Bjarni> <LongJohnSilver> Argh someone's got crappy music on :-\ <-- that's the price for moving to Leeds :P 08:53:07 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I'm not in Leeds at the moment, I'm at Sixth Form :P 08:53:26 <Bjarni> like that should make it any better 08:53:36 <JohnUK89> It should do lol 08:53:52 <JohnUK89> Mind you...the year below me are idiots 08:55:30 <JohnUK89> Phew...head of year turned up :P 08:58:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@207-39.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 09:07:12 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [] 09:08:50 *** JohnUK89 is now known as JohnUK89|SixthForm 09:10:42 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:22 <JohnUK89|SixthForm> Progman: morning :) 09:16:56 *** JohnUK89|SixthForm [~d445e7e2@mail.thegrebs.com] has quit [Quit: http://thegrebs.com/oftc/ (EOF)] 09:29:24 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-25-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 09:39:40 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:40:41 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:06:52 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:21 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:08:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:31:57 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5959.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:41:31 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41:33 <Darkvater> hehe very busy today :) 11:42:07 <roboboy> gnight 11:42:12 *** roboboy is now known as robobed 11:42:17 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:51:37 <Bjarni> Darkvater: yeah 11:51:47 <Bjarni> hence my lack of time in this channel 11:51:49 <Bjarni> I got stuff to do 11:56:47 <Darkvater> we've had more netsplits than chat today ^^ 12:04:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:06:56 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:13:14 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 12:15:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@207-39.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:57 *** grimrc [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:58 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:19:23 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:22:55 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 12:25:20 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 12:32:27 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:54 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-25-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.] 12:38:19 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC7D1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:22 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 12:40:22 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:40:24 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 12:42:03 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:42:46 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5959.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:43:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> bright side... at least we had less lilo spam than netsplits ;) 12:45:19 <valhallasw> :P 12:45:53 <Darkvater> well, he IS dead :) 12:47:57 <Kjetil> "yey... no more lilo spam" :P 12:48:15 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6479 /trunk/economy.c: 12:48:15 <CIA-2> -Fix r6424: FS#348 Plane autoreplace glitch 12:48:15 <CIA-2> Now the num_engines array is updated for the buying player when merging two players 12:48:15 <CIA-2> The incorrect caches aren't saved so no savegames will contain incorrect data due to this bug 12:48:38 *** chm_org [~chatzilla@dslb-088-073-255-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:38 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:49:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 12:49:30 <Darkvater> hmm 6479... am I right or am I not right? Way too much administration going on with this num_engines 12:49:38 <Darkvater> and you'll keep having troubles with it 12:49:50 <Bjarni> no 12:50:00 <Darkvater> yes 12:50:04 <Bjarni> besides I have to leave now 12:50:05 <Bjarni> bbl 12:51:14 <Darkvater> because who knows where else adding this was forgotten or *will* be forgotten 12:52:14 <Capn_Frink> Darkvater: I did... but I forgot. 12:52:34 <Darkvater> wth are you talking about Capn_Frink ? 12:52:44 <Capn_Frink> I forget... 12:52:51 <Darkvater> what? 12:53:10 <Capn_Frink> I dunno, I forgot what I was forgetting 12:53:14 *** chm_org [~chatzilla@dslb-088-073-255-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 12:54:22 *** Guest56 [Gono@N778P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:00:12 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N818P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:33 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:02:42 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 13:25:06 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:26:28 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:58:22 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 14:02:40 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:48 *** DC-1 [DC-1@scene.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 14:10:01 <CIA-2> miham * r6480 /trunk/lang/ (4 files): 14:10:01 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-19 16:09:27 14:10:01 <CIA-2> brazilian_portuguese - 13 fixed by fukumori (13) 14:10:01 <CIA-2> german - 1 changed by Neonox (1) 14:10:01 <CIA-2> polish - 4 fixed by meush (4) 14:10:02 <CIA-2> portuguese - 22 fixed by supra90 (22) 14:15:44 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 14:18:29 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:29 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:09 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 14:37:04 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:56 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:43 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:01:00 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:12 <Darkvater> hmm, is it just me or you cannot forcibly terminate a java thread from within java? 15:01:38 <pumpkin> Darkvater: you can, but you should not. 15:01:46 <Darkvater> .stop() doesn't work 15:01:55 <Darkvater> the blocking function doesn't terminate 15:02:11 <pumpkin> if the thread is blocked in IO ... 15:02:18 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:03:00 <Darkvater> I have this really stupid problem. Using the HSQLDB database and its timeout is about 4 minutes if the host is unreachable 15:03:09 <Darkvater> of course setLoginTimeout() isn't implemented by the driver :( 15:03:43 <Darkvater> so the only solution would be to start the connection in a new thread, let it run for let's say max 5 seconds and if it's not connected by that time, assume hose is unreachable 15:05:11 <pumpkin> the thread will be blocked somewhere in network IO. No chance to recover it. But you can go on w/o waiting. you just have to flag the thread to die at the next possible point. 15:05:24 <Darkvater> yes, about 4 minutes later :( 15:05:57 <pumpkin> Why do you worry about a blocked thread ? itŽs not the swing-thread, you are not depending on it. 15:06:49 <Darkvater> cause it pretty much screws up Tomcat if some dumb user starts reloading the application 15:07:03 <Darkvater> why is java so sucky? I need more control dammit 15:07:20 <PandaMojo> ...because it's Java. Duh. 15:07:22 <PandaMojo> :P 15:07:55 <pumpkin> i still donŽt see the problem. so the user starts another copy... and ? 15:08:42 <Darkvater> I would be fine as well, but after a few tries Tomcat just hangs... 15:10:09 <pumpkin> i think you can limit the number of threads in tomcat. And it blocks if you try to create one more thread. But i never touched tomcat in the last 2 years... 15:10:22 <Darkvater> you are a lucky man :) 15:10:27 <Darkvater> I absolutely detest tomcat 15:13:11 <Darkvater> all it would need is a TerminateThread()...but nooooooo we're too stupid to use that 15:13:37 <Darkvater> meh, screw the whole thread thing 15:13:59 <Darkvater> remove thread, let it time out for 5 minutes and write a big warning in the readme 15:18:01 <pumpkin> TerminateThread would play merry hell with "synchronized". ThatŽs why stop does not work while a thread is blocked in IO and why thread.stop will disappear. 15:19:05 <Darkvater> that's my own responsibility to use 15:19:05 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> because who knows where else adding this was forgotten or *will* be forgotten <-- AFAIK I covered all possible ways to add/remove vehicles from companies 15:19:15 <Darkvater> not some java-ass to decide for me :( 15:19:27 <Darkvater> Bjarni: yes, and the latest commit proves that I suppose ;) 15:19:32 <Darkvater> but alas, I'm going home 15:19:36 <Darkvater> after another day wasted at work 15:20:47 <Bjarni> so I covered all add/remove functions for vehicles and forgot merging of companies.. so? 15:22:04 <Bjarni> besides I noticed that the merging function could be made faster, but I will not bother as it's called so rarely 15:22:17 <Bjarni> nobody will notice the difference anyway 15:25:17 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 15:25:18 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:30 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 15:43:58 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:44:42 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 15:44:42 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:51 <Born_Acorn> I's been busy. http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Special:Recentchanges 15:45:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sentence does not make sense 15:45:30 <glx> it does for me 15:46:35 <Born_Acorn> It be Talk like a Pirate Day, you scurvy dogs! 15:47:06 <Born_Acorn> I's is perf'ctly good Pirate Talk! 15:47:30 <Capn_Frink> Arr, Born_Pirate speak truths 15:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Yo ho hello" - "Did you just call me a ho?" :p 15:51:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> i guess my english skills do not go far into pirate talk... 15:51:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> you don't exactly get taught that at school :p 15:52:09 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 15:52:10 <Capn_Frink> Eddi|zuHause2: http://www.yarr.org.uk/talk/ 16:13:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> according to that guide, Born_Acorn's sentence would still be wrong... 16:13:49 <Born_Acorn> i's not using thoust guide 16:17:20 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 16:22:46 <Born_Acorn> I's be improvisin' 16:24:19 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26:03 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 16:28:56 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A1D4.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:34:42 *** jez [spock@client-82-26-21-136.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:01 <jez> Is there a known bug with the current SVN that means you can't dock at oil rigs? 16:35:51 <Born_Acorn> It was reported before I think. 16:36:06 <Born_Acorn> At least, I've heard of someone else say something about it recently. 16:37:21 <jez> hmm 16:37:37 <jez> if i build a dock or station within the oilrig's vicinity, will it get the oil? 16:37:45 <jez> or does it have to be the station that is associated with the oilrig 16:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, you will get the oil 16:39:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> (at least you used to) 16:48:12 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:54 <grimrc> I thought that bug was patched!? 17:06:39 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 17:07:28 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:58 *** cantares [cyrus@p50874D23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:06 <cantares> hi 17:28:21 <jez> grimrc: unless it was patched very recently, it hasnt been 17:28:30 <jez> this version i compiled was grabbed maybe a week ago 17:28:47 <jez> although i know work is going on all the time (i was surprised how much actually) 17:31:59 <Maedhros> it was fixed last friday, by the looks of it 17:32:32 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:28 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 17:33:36 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has left #openttd [] 17:35:03 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:39:59 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6481 /branches/MiniIN/ (npf.c roadveh_cmd.c train_cmd.c): [MiniIN] -Fix (r6466): some TileOffsByDir -> TileOffsByDiagDir were forgotten, which resulted in a broken PBS. 17:51:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:53:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 18:03:24 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 18:04:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:08:09 <ln-> how tall are you? 18:13:26 <cantares> 183 cm o.o 18:17:04 <cantares> 72" o.o 18:25:45 <ln-> good answer. others? (metric system preferred) 18:26:01 <cantares> Metric system rules! ;) 18:29:10 <cantares> reminds me of an 'accident' form the NASA.. metric and imperial units mixed up.. and a probe was crashed in a planet... 18:29:37 <cantares> multi million dollar destroyed :p (is million -> 1000000 ?) 18:30:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:24 <cantares> very funny.. o.o 18:31:15 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 18:31:52 <Born_Acorn> A million = Thousand Thousand. 18:31:54 <blathijs> 1.99m 18:32:12 <Born_Acorn> Unless you live somewhere silly, where it's not. 18:32:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80CB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:32:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:33:28 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34:12 <cantares> Born_Acorn: than it may was billion which is differing in english language form that what it is in my native language.. 18:35:07 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 18:37:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:37:29 <Wolf01> hi 18:38:13 <Capn_Frink> cantares: an English billion used to be a million million, but we've downgraded to the yank billion 18:38:38 <cantares> thats confusing o.o 18:38:51 <hylje> milliard is thousand million 18:39:00 <jez> hey 18:39:01 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 18:39:04 <hylje> and billion is still 10^12 18:39:05 <jez> can someone else check out slashdot.org? 18:39:20 <hylje> yes 18:39:20 <jez> for me, something weird's happening, links have turned blue and it looks like they screwed up their stylesheet 18:39:22 <jez> anyone else? 18:39:29 * Belugas is comfy at 1.83m 18:39:30 <hylje> they do screw their stylesheet from time to time 18:39:57 <cantares> but there was some thing in english that is interferring with my native language.. 18:40:45 <cantares> million ^6, milliard ^9, billion ^12, billiard ^15, trillion ^18, trilliard ^21... or so 18:43:58 <cantares> whatever.. 19:00:52 <peter1138> evening 19:01:02 <peter1138> feh 19:01:05 <peter1138> that's englis 19:01:06 <peter1138> err 19:01:09 <peter1138> english 19:01:31 <peter1138> it's only the silly americans who started with the billion = *10^9 crap 19:08:09 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:19:27 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:31 <cantares> americans are stupid o.o 19:20:02 <Belugas> some... 19:20:07 <Belugas> don't put them all on the same bag 19:22:11 <cantares> not some.. many.. there are some who not.. o.o 19:22:37 <Capn_Frink> cantares: they're called Canadians 19:22:58 *** Neonox_ [~Neonox@ip-80-226-231-186.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 19:24:07 <cantares> Canada is in America? 19:24:23 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:32 <Brianetta> cantares: Where did you think it was? 19:24:38 <Brianetta> It's in America, just north of the US 19:25:55 <cantares> ok, i should specify my arguments better... 19:26:54 <ln-> 183 cm 19:27:14 <cantares> with america i mean the United Staates... o.o 19:27:50 <cantares> i may not very good informed.. but i think that canada isn't a part of the USA ? o.o 19:28:37 <Brianetta> It isn't, no. It remained loyal and is now part of the Commonwealth. 19:29:42 <cantares> when i talk about americans, i mean the citizend of the united states.., the people in canada i would mind as canadians o. 19:29:43 <cantares> o.o 19:30:12 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-151-51.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:52 * Belugas raises his flag 19:43:10 <Brianetta> Well, it certainly sucks to be the Prime Minister of either Hungary or Thailand this evening. 19:43:22 <cantares> why that? 19:43:58 <Brianetta> cantares: Do you follow the news? 19:44:12 <cantares> Brianetta: No, not realy. 19:44:17 <Brianetta> It came out tonight that the PM of Hungary admitted to lying his way into office 19:44:22 <Brianetta> so he's in bother 19:44:33 <glx> I was aware for Hungary, but didn't know for Thailand 19:44:42 <Brianetta> and the Thai PM was away at the UN, when the Thai armed forces staged a peaceful coup in his absence. 19:44:59 <Brianetta> They're doing it in the name of the King, apparently 19:45:07 <Brianetta> and the PM was a bit unpopular 19:45:35 <cantares> i don't know why i should follow news... 19:45:48 <cantares> it's always the same manipulative stuff.. 19:46:07 <cantares> spreading fear about terror and all such nonsense... 19:46:15 <glx> only in US 19:46:35 <cantares> I am living in germany. 19:46:43 <cantares> :p 19:46:48 <Brianetta> Tune in to the BBC World Service. 19:47:26 <Brianetta> Deutsche Welle doesn't seem to have much terrorism spin 19:47:47 <cantares> Deutsche Welle? 19:47:54 <Brianetta> http://www.dw-world.de/ 19:48:30 <Brianetta> It's your primary international news source - it's where the rest of us can find out what's going on in Germany 19:48:43 <Brianetta> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2178311,00.html 19:48:45 <Brianetta> c000l 19:49:08 <Brianetta> That's blackmail (: 19:49:21 <cantares> deutsche welle ist a radio broadcast station.. o.o and i think it's not very popular.. 19:49:30 <Brianetta> Probably because it's sane 19:49:37 <Brianetta> The BBC World Service is our equivalent 19:49:44 <cantares> maybe 19:49:45 <Brianetta> It's our international radio station 19:49:53 <glx> wa have AFP here 19:50:02 <Brianetta> It's shortwave, and you can pick it up accross the world 19:50:22 <Capn_Frink> cantares: Or, news.bbc.co.uk 19:50:34 <Brianetta> Amusingly, and to the annoyance of the Russians, the BBC routinely broadcast Russian troop movements in Georgia in the clear for the Georgians (: 19:50:54 <Brianetta> Well, they did 19:51:04 <Brianetta> during the fighting 19:51:04 <cantares> i had my decision 'bout reading news or not.. and i think my life is happier if i dont read such stuff.. 19:52:08 <cantares> hmm 19:52:10 <cantares> severcs 19:52:11 <cantares> severs 19:52:15 <cantares> servers 19:52:39 <cantares> i thougt that may be keywords to a bot o. 19:52:40 <cantares> o.o 19:53:12 <glx> what do you want to know from the bot? 19:53:21 <Capn_Frink> cantares: no, it's part of the *.openttd.org site 19:53:29 <cantares> ah 19:53:30 <cantares> ok 19:53:37 <glx> !openttd help 19:53:38 <_42_> glx: available commands: commit date download files help log port svn url user 19:53:58 <cantares> i thougt it would trigger a server-list or something like that 19:54:18 <cantares> servers.openttd.org makes sense aswell... 19:54:23 <Capn_Frink> cantares: That would be major channelfloodage 19:54:36 <glx> and it's a bad idea to do 19:54:50 <cantares> it may send it via ctcp query or notice 19:55:32 <Capn_Frink> Even then, there's 70 servers atm 19:55:40 <Capn_Frink> That's over a screenful 19:56:38 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 19:57:08 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [] 19:58:48 <CIA-2> miham * r6482 /trunk/lang/italian.txt: 19:58:48 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-19 21:58:22 19:58:48 <CIA-2> italian - 38 fixed by sidew (38) 19:59:17 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 19:59:35 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 20:01:28 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 20:02:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 20:03:51 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:04:42 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/depot_list.diff <-- apply this one and see if you can get the depot windows to behave incorrectly 20:04:55 <Bjarni> hopefully you will not be able to tell any difference 20:06:32 <Rubidium> Bjarni: what if wagon_list can't be malloced? 20:07:14 <Bjarni> typo :) 20:07:25 <Bjarni> next line should say wagon_list as well 20:09:03 <Bjarni> reload (if you bother) 20:09:24 <Bjarni> well spotted 20:09:27 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:29 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:10:00 <Rubidium> Vehicle** -> Vehicle ** 20:10:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:45 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 20:11:00 <Rubidium> the FOR_ALL_VEHICLES in the switch for VEH_Train is indented too much 20:11:29 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 20:11:59 <Rubidium> would also indent the second and third line of the if in the before mentioned FOR_ALL_VEHICLES one tab :) 20:12:43 <cantares> i want to thank all the developers, coders, tester, etc for all the enjoyable hours i had with playing OpenTTD o.o 20:13:15 <Rubidium> are the casts in the frees really necesary? 20:13:23 <Nigel> cantares, and the many more to come right? 20:13:33 <glx> maybe add if (GetVehicleArraySize() == 0) return 0; at begining of BuildDepotVehicleList() for safety 20:13:34 <cantares> hopefully o.o 20:13:50 <Nigel> in that case, i second cantares' statement 20:14:28 <cantares> i would like to take part in it, but the code is to complex for me at the moment... 20:15:13 *** Neonox_ is now known as Neonox 20:15:14 <Bjarni> glx: I have no idea when that would be needed. The first 1024 vehicles are special and always allocated and then it got 512 or 1024 for normal vehicles 20:15:42 <glx> ha ok so there's no risk to have "no vehicles" 20:15:43 <Nigel> cantares, what about play, and find werid bugs, and notifying the community to look into furthur 20:15:43 <Rubidium> (x+=56) in roadveh_gui.c 20:16:05 <Bjarni> <cantares> i would like to take part in it, but the code is to complex for me at the moment... <-- I said something like that at first, but then I decided to set a single goal and aim for that one and forget about the rest of the source 20:16:20 <Rubidium> hmm, there are more of those spacing issues 20:16:30 <Nigel> I'm going to help something soon 20:16:39 <Nigel> *sometime 20:17:02 <Nigel> maybe after i get my Red Hat and MCSA 20:17:52 <cantares> i like code optimizing.. 20:18:32 <Nigel> I like doing something *perfect* 20:19:04 <Rubidium> help eachother and write a perfect and optimized AI ;) 20:19:23 <Nigel> I had a simple programming project, but i decided to really make it big, and make it *perfect* 20:19:44 <Nigel> Rubidium, haha, cut the 90 degree turns for a start 20:19:49 <Bjarni> cantares: optimize Nigel's stuff :) 20:20:09 <Nigel> Bjarni, i'm not that bad 20:20:17 <Bjarni> it was a joke 20:20:18 <Nigel> i just wrote a whole lot of library stuff 20:20:40 <Nigel> (that i'm sure i'll reuse in the future 20:20:49 <cantares> i don't got openttd compiled.. the times i tried it 20:21:05 <Nigel> actually, i need to actually build it as a library 20:21:12 <Bjarni> the time spent on optimizing would be better spent on profiling the game and then look at the functions that use the most time 20:21:46 <Nigel> but anyhow, it's 8:20, and i need to get really for my 2 hour trek into town 20:22:19 <Bjarni> you are going at a walkabout? 20:22:25 <Bjarni> for two hours 20:22:41 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6483 /branches/MiniIN/ (22 files in 2 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk r6468:6482. 20:23:24 <Bjarni> <Rubidium> hmm, there are more of those spacing issues <-- most if not all of them are due to change in indent. I didn't look at lines I just changed indent on 20:24:15 <Rubidium> that is true 20:26:04 <Rubidium> Bjarni: what about s/temp_list/engine_list/ and s/num/engines/ ? 20:27:18 <Bjarni> that would make sense 20:27:26 <Bjarni> accepted :) 20:27:49 <Rubidium> the vehicle in the line after if (wagon_list == NULL) to wagon 20:28:14 <Rubidium> and indent the 2nd-4th line of the if in VEH_Aircraft 20:31:02 <Nigel> Bjarni, busabout 20:31:26 <Bjarni> that explains the quick walkabout 20:31:44 <Bjarni> you know, you will get time to a whole lot more thinking if you walk instead :) 20:32:48 <Rubidium> Bjarni: please try to make only a wagon in a new game with your patch attached :) 20:33:10 <Nigel> i'm out 20:33:12 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:15 <Bjarni> I just realised that 20:33:17 <Rubidium> then num == 0 and wagons != 0 20:33:21 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-13-25.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:26 <Bjarni> and fixed it 20:33:33 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:34:01 <Bjarni> but I wonder if I can code it in a nicer way than just changing the if to if (engines != 0 || wagons != 0) { 20:34:32 <Rubidium> if ((engines + wagons) != 0) { 20:35:41 <Rubidium> and move the whole 'if (type == VEH_Train)' into the 'if ((engines + wagons) != 0)' 20:36:31 <Rubidium> you might even remove the ifs, except for the allocation of vehicle_list 20:38:06 <Bjarni> I just did that 20:38:40 <Bjarni> reload 20:39:21 <Bjarni> if type is not VEH_Train, then wagons is 0 and wagon_list is NULL 20:40:03 * Bjarni tests if it still works for all vehicles 20:40:08 <Bjarni> it should, but you never know 20:40:25 <hylje> how NULL? 20:41:33 <Rubidium> Bjarni: are those casts with frees needed? It seems my compiler doesn't need them. 20:41:42 <Bjarni> because it's set to NULL when declared 20:41:50 <Bjarni> openttd(14629,0xa000cf60) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x22ee0c; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; <-- now I got that one back :( 20:42:34 <Bjarni> <Rubidium> Bjarni: are those casts with frees needed? It seems my compiler doesn't need them. <-- I have no idea, but I saw that they were in use elsewhere so I presumed that some compiler needs them or something like that 20:42:47 <Bjarni> or some special case can make them go wrong or something 20:43:20 <Rubidium> Bjarni: do you know which line does the second free? 20:43:58 <Rubidium> the wagons = 0 in case VEH_Train is not needed 20:45:41 <Bjarni> it appears to show up when closing the windows 20:47:11 <Bjarni> so it's the free in WE_DESTROY 20:47:35 <Bjarni> but why... either it's a valid free or it's trying to free NULL 20:47:47 <Bjarni> at least that's what I think it's trying to do 20:48:08 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:16 <Rubidium> set vehicle_list to NULL after each free and it should be solved 20:48:42 <Bjarni> free((void*)(*vehicle_list)); 20:48:42 <Bjarni> *vehicle_list = NULL; 20:48:51 <Bjarni> it have been there for a while now 20:49:23 *** DC-1 [DC-1@scene.hu] has joined #openttd 20:49:29 <Rubidium> not in the destroys 20:49:45 <Bjarni> I know 20:49:59 <Bjarni> BuildDepotVehicleList() is setting it to NULL 20:50:05 <Bjarni> and the problem is still there 20:50:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:50:37 <Bjarni> even with vehicles in the list, so I think it should leak memory if I skip the free() 20:50:41 <Rubidium> but it might get destroyed twice, if you add the vehicle_list = NULL in the destroy you're certain 20:51:04 <Bjarni> just tried that 20:51:09 <Bjarni> no change :( 20:51:43 <Rubidium> how should I reproduce the issue? 20:52:59 <Bjarni> now it's gone 20:53:02 <Bjarni> :D 20:53:24 <Bjarni> free((void*)&WP(w, traindepot_d).vehicle_list); -> free((void*)WP(w, traindepot_d).vehicle_list); 20:53:32 <Bjarni> I wonder why I placed that & in the first place 20:53:41 <Rubidium> good question 20:54:30 *** Guest56 [Gono@N788P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:54:47 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:55:17 <Bjarni> anyway, the warning is gone now 20:55:23 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:55:50 <Rubidium> Bjarni: what about using realloc instead of free and malloc? 20:55:59 <Rubidium> for vehicle_list that is 20:56:51 <Bjarni> well, that could be a good idea 20:57:00 <Bjarni> it's just... I never used realloc 20:57:37 <glx> Rubidium: what will happen if engines + wagons == 0 ? 20:58:21 <Bjarni> "If there is not enough room to 20:58:21 <Bjarni> enlarge the memory allocation pointed to by ptr, realloc() creates a new 20:58:21 <Bjarni> allocation, copies as much of the old data pointed to by ptr as will fit 20:58:21 <Bjarni> to the new allocation" <-- I don't want to copy the junk :) 20:59:21 <Bjarni> isn't it faster to do it like this. I mean I skip the copy part 20:59:45 <Rubidium> I've got not idea 21:00:14 <Rubidium> otherwise you could account the size of the array and, if the size differs free and malloc it 21:00:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N778P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:44 <Bjarni> also I just got another idea. Use realloc on engine_list to reduce it to the needed size and set the pointer to that one. No need to copy the stuff to a smaller newly allocated array 21:02:12 <Rubidium> and do the other copy with memcpy? 21:02:40 <Bjarni> you mean wagon_list into the end of engine_list? 21:02:50 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:02:50 <Bjarni> that's clearly an option :) 21:02:53 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:48 <Bjarni> the loop will make the CPU move each pointer into a register and then copy that register into the other array in the RAM. memcpy can move from RAM to RAM (at least on some systems) and save a lot of time 21:05:30 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:57 <Bjarni> I read about that when figuring out G5 optimisation. The docs told me to use memcpy as much as possible because it got a special chip to handle this and totally bypass the CPU 21:06:08 <Bjarni> for noteworthy speed improvements 21:07:20 <Bjarni> so fixing some spacing in the lines with new indents and make use of realloc and memcpy to speed up stuff. Anything else? 21:07:47 <Rubidium> not at the moment 21:07:57 <Bjarni> good 21:08:14 <cantares> keeping a command for optimization for just one processor? o.o 21:08:37 <Bjarni> cantares: what are you talking about? 21:08:48 <cantares> "I read about that when figuring out G5 optimisation. The docs told me to use memcpy as much as possible because it got a special chip to handle this and totally bypass the CPU" 21:09:08 <Bjarni> that's not what I meant :) 21:09:14 <cantares> memcpy() only for the purpose that it is runnig better on G5-Processors? o.o 21:09:15 <cantares> oh ok 21:09:51 <Bjarni> I meant that I read it when reading about this particular CPU and it's likely that it will try to do something similar on other systems as well. I just didn't investigate any other CPUs 21:11:02 <cantares> ah 21:11:34 <Bjarni> I don't think G5 is the only computer in the world that got such an ability 21:11:51 <Bjarni> memcpy is a fairly common function to use to move large amount of data 21:11:58 <Bjarni> people like it to be fast 21:12:16 <cantares> i think you're right with that hmm 21:12:45 <cantares> its hart to test different commands in matter of speed.. 21:12:56 <cantares> especially after all the compiler optimization... o.o 21:13:19 <Bjarni> yeah 21:13:49 <Bjarni> and odds are that it's no good to check for speed without using compiler optimisation ;) 21:13:55 <Bjarni> makes little sense 21:14:08 <Bjarni> or rather: no sense at all 21:14:18 <Brianetta> Arrrr 21:15:10 <Bjarni> is this the official speak like a pirate day or something? 21:15:34 <Brianetta> Yes. 21:15:47 <Bjarni> damn, almost missed it :( 21:15:50 <Brianetta> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/howto.html 21:16:26 <Bjarni> so today is the day to play pirates 21:16:34 <Brianetta> no - to talk like them 21:16:45 <Bjarni> everybody should have different strings to really talk like pirates 21:17:09 <Bjarni> according to the net, it should be fun to see the governor's daughter talk like a pirate 21:20:27 <grimrc> avast landlubbers! I gots me blood test back t'day; TSH: 4.72 and FT4: 16 (I think) 21:20:49 <cantares> Aye! o.o 21:21:46 <grimrc> current British TSH max: 5.00 <-> my TSH: 4.72 <-> new US TSH max: 3.00 <-- damn it'll be hard to get treated 21:21:59 <Brianetta> I'll fire me cannon through yer porthole, make no mistake. Prepare to be boarded! 21:22:11 <Brianetta> oo-err 21:22:13 <Brianetta> oo-arrr 21:22:26 <grimrc> shiver me timbers 21:23:28 <cantares> are the currencies in openttd inaccurantly calculated as they were in die original? maybe a funny gimmick if it would use actual changing-values 21:23:54 <Brianetta> It's as the original, FTT 21:23:59 <Brianetta> (for the treasure, arrr) 21:26:23 <cantares> speak like a pirate day.. great.. 21:26:55 <Bjarni> hmm. Realloc did ok, but now I got an issue with train depots... I try to read from an invalid location :( 21:36:57 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:17 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-231-186.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 21:42:39 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:42:39 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 21:45:05 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC7D1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:52 <Maedhros> good night 21:47:00 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:49:23 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:49:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:52:13 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3704F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:52:46 *** mikk36[EST] [mikk36@pc78.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 21:53:09 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 21:54:45 *** Ammler [~Ammler@207-39.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 21:55:16 <Bjarni> shit, we got a lot of memory leaks 21:55:23 <Bjarni> way more than last time I checked 21:56:16 <Bjarni> no wait 21:56:22 <Bjarni> clicked the wrong button :) 21:56:29 <Bjarni> it's not worse than last time 21:56:46 * Bjarni was scared for a moment when it started to show size in mb 21:56:48 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Dinner 21:57:39 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B359BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:50 <Bjarni> anyway my diff appears not to leak memory at all :) 21:58:48 <glx> that's a good thing 21:59:29 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc83.host3.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:30 <Bjarni> yeah 22:00:01 <Bjarni> I didn't think it would leak memory, but since it plays so much with malloc, I think it's best to test it to be sure 22:00:45 <Bjarni> generally it should be tested on all commits that contains a risk of adding memory leaks 22:01:08 <glx> yes but it's not done like that :) 22:08:22 <Bjarni> I know 22:11:28 <Bjarni> btw the only memory leak I detected (after I clicked the right button) was in NPF, which is the known one 22:12:18 <Bjarni> no leaks anywhere else in the code that I reached when testing or in the libraries used for the mac port 22:12:34 <Bjarni> the SDL libs got memory leaks, at least the OSX port 22:13:25 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:16:24 *** Progman [~progman@p5091EE3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:03 *** lws|Dinner [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:20 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:32:02 *** Capn_Frink is now known as Prof_Frink 22:38:07 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:40 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/depot_list.diff <-- updated 22:42:17 <Bjarni> now I would like to see who of you can manage to make it behave incorrectly 22:42:26 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 22:42:45 <Bjarni> actually, I would like none of you to be able to make it behave incorrectly :) 22:43:28 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 22:44:29 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A1D4.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:30 <glx> should work 22:49:07 <Bjarni> yeah, it should 22:49:17 <Bjarni> I coded it, proofread it and tested it 22:49:27 <Bjarni> and changed stuff based on feedback 22:49:37 <Bjarni> and proofread and tested it again afterwardsd 22:49:55 <Bjarni> now the question is if I missed something obscene that have eluded me so far 22:50:15 <Bjarni> where is Sacro when you need him? 22:50:31 <Bjarni> he can break everything when he is not supposed to 22:50:38 <glx> !seen Sacro 22:50:38 <_42_> glx, Sacro (~ben@adsl-83-100-225-186.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen quitting #openttd 23 hours 22 minutes ago (18.09. 23:28) stating "Remote host closed the connection" after spending 1 hour 27 minutes there. 22:50:45 <Bjarni> makes him ideal for testing this 22:50:57 <Bjarni> o_O 22:51:08 <Bjarni> he failed to be online today... 22:51:14 <Bjarni> did he die or something? 22:51:25 <Bjarni> we should ask him when he returns 22:56:32 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:19 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-162-4.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:57:47 <Sacro> glx: you called? 22:58:03 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:58:07 <Bjarni> actually I said "where is Sacro when you need him?" 22:58:15 <Bjarni> and then glx investigated 22:58:18 <Sacro> and here he is 22:58:23 <Sacro> yarr me hearties :p 22:58:36 <glx> oh no another pirate 22:58:50 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/depot_list.diff <-- apply this one and see if you can find some obscene way to make the depot windows behave incorrectly 22:59:08 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/67325 <-- speaking of pirates... from earlier today :D 23:00:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: the whole idea of that diff is that it's an internal change to make it easier for me to code my next patches. The game should remain 100% the same 23:00:46 <Bjarni> it changes how to find the vehicles in the depots 23:01:20 <Sacro> and you wanted me to break it 23:01:56 <Bjarni> yeah 23:02:03 <Bjarni> you are perfect for a task like that 23:02:16 <Bjarni> besides nearly everybody else went to bed 23:02:28 <Sacro> Targets: openttd-0.4 .8-1 WHOOO, official repo finally updated 23:02:51 <Bjarni> try against the head revision ;) 23:03:54 <Sacro> im just catching up on the days interweb 23:06:09 *** jez [spock@client-82-26-21-136.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:00 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/67318 <-- nice one 23:07:55 *** jez [splitch@client-86-27-93-144.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:26 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:15:33 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 23:16:48 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 23:19:14 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:52 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 23:25:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@207-39.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:27:28 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-204-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 23:31:35 <Bjarni> Sacro: how is the game breaking going? 23:31:46 <Sacro> Bjarni: not tried yet 23:31:52 * Bjarni slaps Sacro 23:31:56 <Bjarni> why not? 23:32:02 <Sacro> still doing work 23:32:10 <Bjarni> you work? 23:32:14 <Bjarni> at this hour? 23:32:30 <Sacro> i have to sort stuff for uni 23:32:36 <Bjarni> ahh 23:32:39 <Bjarni> fair enough 23:32:43 * Bjarni unslaps Sacro 23:33:01 <Sacro> and sophie is not online :( 23:33:25 <Bjarni> her not being online would indicate that you got time to do other stuff 23:34:15 <Sacro> yep, i suppose there is that 23:34:48 <Bjarni> you replied like you need her to allow you to test the diff or something 23:35:04 <Bjarni> are you planning on marring her or something? 23:35:14 <Sacro> no, theres certain other diffs she enables me to see 23:35:17 <Bjarni> I mean, since you practice 23:35:24 <Sacro> id lke that, but i dunno whether she would 23:36:15 <Bjarni> there is one way to find out 23:36:27 <Bjarni> I'm not sure it's the right thing to do though 23:36:30 <Sacro> me neither 23:36:34 <Bjarni> it could backfire 23:36:48 <Sacro> yeah it could 23:37:30 <Sacro> and knowing me, it will 23:38:22 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:10 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C3C7.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:43:39 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.112] has joined #openttd 23:43:43 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 23:49:19 <UnderBuilder> hey someone has saw my suggestion thread 23:49:34 <Sacro> UnderBuilder: seen 23:49:50 <Bjarni> <Sacro> and knowing me, it will <--- glad we agree on something :P 23:52:19 <Bjarni> UnderBuilder: you are not the first one to say this and some people in here (mainly one starting with D) are totally against it 23:53:02 <UnderBuilder> well because I was so desesperated 23:54:04 <Bjarni> you were so what? 23:55:17 <UnderBuilder> well I admit it that was a useless ad thing 23:58:03 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 23:59:24 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]]