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00:00:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:03:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> i remember there being an utf-8 fix for osx 00:04:07 <glx> only for osx 00:04:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> "File names can be in any character set, not just ones designed mainly for English or Western European languages. (They can even be in Klingon if you don't have a life.)" :p 00:16:17 *** EduardoM [~chatzilla@209.175.96.50] has joined #openttd 00:16:27 <EduardoM> Hi 00:16:35 <EduardoM> is it anybody in here? 00:16:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> no. 00:16:53 <EduardoM> ok. 00:16:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> (damn= 00:16:56 <EduardoM> are you a bot? 00:17:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes. 00:17:06 <EduardoM> good. 00:17:09 <EduardoM> I am also a bot 00:17:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> ack. 00:18:26 <EduardoM> so, has anybody said something interesting about OpenTTD today? 00:19:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> no. 00:19:55 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 00:22:12 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:30:12 *** EduardoM [~chatzilla@209.175.96.50] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]] 00:32:28 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77616.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:49 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77616.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:17 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:24 <ln-> http://youtube.com/watch?v=LKu_QA8Bn9o 00:49:13 <Nigel> wtf 00:53:01 <Nigel> wait, David Hasselhoff was in that "Knight Rider"? 00:57:49 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 01:02:21 <ln-> he was THE Knight Rider. 01:06:08 <Nigel> i honestly didn't realise 01:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... how can one _not_ know this? 01:18:16 <CIA-2> belugas * r6660 /trunk/main_gui.c: 01:18:16 <CIA-2> -Fix(r6631): Prevent the fast-foward button to toggle up and down when pressing shift. 01:18:16 <CIA-2> The _fastforward and _pause bool are not exactly used as bool. 01:18:16 <CIA-2> So, when doing test with them, amek it so that the will appear as such 01:23:58 <Nigel> i don't really care about celebrities etc 01:24:40 <ln-> he's not a mere celebrity, he's david hasselhoff 01:26:10 <glx> BAYWATCH :D 01:26:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, his music always was questionable at best... 01:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> and other than knight rider and baywatch, i don't remember anything else he did 01:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> but he was pretty hyped in the beginning of the 90's 01:33:29 <CIA-2> belugas * r6661 /trunk/ (widget.c window.c window.h): 01:33:29 <CIA-2> Feature: Windows are not restricted to 32 widget items anymore. 01:33:29 <CIA-2> The functions required to do so are to be found in window.h. 01:33:29 <CIA-2> Rather then use the old deprecated disabled_state, hidden_state and click_state uint32 variables, 01:33:29 <CIA-2> we now need to use accessors like SetWindowWidgetDisabledState, SetWindowWidgetHiddenState or SetWindowWidgetLoweredState. 01:33:30 <CIA-2> This is the final commit for the merge of XTDwidget branch. 01:35:28 <Belugas> THANKS TO RUBIDIUM AND GLX WHO BOTH HELPED A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT 01:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> uargh... do you have to shout that loud in the middle of the night? 01:36:33 <Belugas> yup... 01:36:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... ok then ;) 01:37:19 <Belugas> that way, i'm sure everyone will hear it, since i've forgot to mention them on the commit message ;) 01:46:05 <CIA-2> belugas * r6662 /branches/XTDwidget/: -Delete branch: merged with trunk 02:08:37 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176122166.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 02:13:10 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a65.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30:58 <CIA-2> belugas * r6663 /trunk/genworld_gui.c: -Codechange: Remove the 32 widgets limit on landscape generator. 02:39:16 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3F8B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:45:36 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3FBEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:29:22 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:33:24 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:48:16 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:49:24 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 03:52:21 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 03:53:09 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 04:13:02 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: So long, thanks for all the... whatever you all gave me :p] 04:42:53 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 05:00:58 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B777CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:04:10 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 05:07:22 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77616.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:19:57 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 05:47:32 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54:34 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 06:18:28 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-63-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:21:29 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 06:50:27 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-63-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: +++ OK ATH OK] 06:53:57 * peter1138 remembers the days of sending icmp packets with that in 06:58:23 <SpComb> did it crash windows? 07:00:00 <eleusis> hm 07:00:02 <eleusis> r6663 07:00:36 * peter1138 kicks at ci.. oh, he's not here 07:00:41 <peter1138> we're on r6666 07:00:56 <eleusis> ! 07:01:19 <SpComb> !svn revision 07:30:41 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:44 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:37:01 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:38:53 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E755.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:07:33 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3F8B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:51 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3F8B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:10:23 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-7542.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 08:11:44 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:17:58 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:21:40 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:21:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:22:40 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 08:34:31 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:12 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:43:28 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:48:22 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:48:22 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:48 *** TinoDidri [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:49:37 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:58 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 09:04:58 <Bjarni> !logs 09:09:08 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2EA18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:12:11 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 09:16:06 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2D7E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:32 <ln-> http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/kuvat/tmp/tarvitaan_tilaa.png 09:28:37 <peter1138> ... 09:31:08 <SpComb> hmm... 09:31:31 <ln-> come on, it's an official language of EU. 09:31:33 <SpComb> needed space - free space 09:37:24 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:37:36 <Bjarni> ln-: you failed with software update??? 09:37:39 <Bjarni> I never did that 09:38:18 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:35 <SpComb> he ran out of hard drive space, he had to free up -4 kB 09:42:18 <peter1138> who? 09:48:14 *** Serriaromeo_ [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:05 <ln-> Bjarni: i tried to start the update when i had not logged in to the wireless network. got a normal error. then i logged in, retried and got that error. 09:49:21 <ln-> error that says the update requires -3 bytes of free hard disk space. 09:49:54 <ln-> but after i closed the software update and opened it again everything went ok. 09:50:00 <SpComb> reboot! 09:51:08 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:57:25 <hylje> looks like apple got some WTFs too 10:02:14 <peter1138> hmm 10:02:20 <peter1138> time to read ... the daily wtf 10:06:42 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:16 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:07:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:14:30 <peter1138> hmm, auto identify ;p 10:21:18 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 10:26:33 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-175-56.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 10:30:00 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:32:05 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-233-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:09 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:42:57 *** Tron_ [v6xFWbOo@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:48 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 11:04:42 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:07:51 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-175-56.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:09 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:41:28 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [] 11:41:46 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:45:35 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:48:31 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 11:54:15 <hylje> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1160133875629.jpg 11:54:16 <hylje> poof 11:55:46 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E755.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's left-right flipped 11:57:23 <Bjarni> hylje: tried to drive again, eh? 11:57:25 <Bjarni> :P 11:58:16 <Bjarni> where is that picture taken? 11:58:29 <hylje> dunno 11:58:44 <hylje> found it in 4chan 11:59:17 <Bjarni> 4chan got pictures of you driving? 11:59:45 <hylje> apparently lol 12:04:04 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:06:39 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:37 <mikk36> lol @ this years gumball ending :D 12:14:07 <peter1138> burlington 12:14:09 <peter1138> northern 12:14:10 <peter1138> hmm 12:19:23 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 12:20:17 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui2.png 12:21:30 <peter1138> hmm, add needs to disappear 12:23:52 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:25:03 <peter1138> best bit: it all works 12:25:27 <peter1138> hmm, 30KB patch now :/ 12:25:32 <peter1138> although i can split it 12:26:57 <Bjarni> I hope it's available for singleplayer as well 12:28:11 <peter1138> hmm? 12:28:16 <peter1138> of course it is 12:28:19 <peter1138> it's in the savegame 12:28:33 <peter1138> the network bit is just an addon to make it... nicer 12:29:49 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176122166.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:30:04 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:54 <hylje> what about automagical grf fetching 12:33:19 <peter1138> not possible currently 12:33:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... does that leave room for some customization? i.e. network safe graphical replacements like combroad (with appropriate parameters)? 12:33:57 <peter1138> not yet 12:40:57 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:44:58 <peter1138> i can think of a way of doing it though 12:45:44 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:41 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 13:00:07 <peter1138> right... better pics... 13:00:10 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui/ 13:00:42 <Born_Acorn> I'm in a Screenshot! 13:00:43 <Born_Acorn> woo! 13:00:44 <Born_Acorn> :p 13:00:50 <peter1138> hmm? 13:00:51 <peter1138> oh yes 13:01:48 <Born_Acorn> Shouldn't it show the Set Name in the list, then the filename in the description area? 13:02:00 <peter1138> yeah 13:03:25 * Born_Acorn is brimming with suggestions 13:03:39 <Bjarni> good 13:03:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:03:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:03:52 <Bjarni> any idea what I want to code next? :) 13:04:16 <peter1138> hmm? 13:04:17 <Born_Acorn> Passenger Destinations! :p 13:04:20 <eleusis> Bjarni: passenger destinations! 13:04:23 <eleusis> haha 13:04:23 <peter1138> lol 13:04:26 <Born_Acorn> heehee 13:04:27 <Bjarni> ... 13:04:33 <eleusis> apply patch, kthx :P 13:04:51 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> any idea what I want to code next? <-- "want to code" 13:04:56 <eleusis> :P 13:05:21 <Born_Acorn> Passenger Destinations could immortalise your name in the anals of OpenTTD big features history! 13:06:13 <Bjarni> I'm not going anal with you!!!! 13:06:20 <eleusis> :( 13:06:34 <Born_Acorn> not ay-nal, ah-nahls 13:07:18 <Bjarni> and you mean that people don't care for what I have done so far? 13:07:32 <Born_Acorn> Course we do! 13:08:14 <peter1138> that patch needs a lot of tidying up 13:08:20 <Bjarni> yeah 13:08:26 <peter1138> also, does it only apply for passengers? 13:08:34 <Bjarni> and I think it would be best to start with cargo packages 13:09:14 <eleusis> ! 13:09:27 <eleusis> misc cargo destinations? 13:09:47 <Born_Acorn> Cargo destinations is what I disliked about Simutrans. 13:09:50 <eleusis> then again, in simutrans, industries have specific 'clients' 13:09:53 <peter1138> well 13:09:54 <eleusis> heh 13:10:04 <peter1138> mail would be a good candiadate for destinations 13:10:11 <eleusis> yep 13:10:12 <Born_Acorn> Yes, Mail, for sure. 13:10:12 <peter1138> and candidate 13:10:19 <peter1138> possibly valuables 13:10:24 <peter1138> but only in temperate 13:10:39 <peter1138> or rather, only *from* banks 13:10:52 <ln-> is it only passenger destinations or any-cargo destinations? 13:11:06 <peter1138> it looks like it's passenger only 13:11:11 <eleusis> passenger 13:11:28 <ln-> imho it should apply to other cargo too. 13:11:40 <peter1138> i'd like it optional :) 13:11:45 <Born_Acorn> Cargo destinations is what I disliked about Simutrans. 13:11:55 <eleusis> maybe cargo destinations can be made adaptable.. producer produces equal amounts of cargo for each client destination on network? 13:11:56 <peter1138> 0 = no destinations, 1 = passenger & mail, 2 = all 13:12:08 <peter1138> i'd play with 1 13:12:12 <Born_Acorn> 1 for me. 13:12:21 <Born_Acorn> 0 should be default. 13:12:35 <peter1138> actually 13:12:39 <Born_Acorn> (since people are scared by random big changes) 13:12:42 <peter1138> we should not allow 0, just to annoy jez 13:12:46 <Born_Acorn> heehee 13:12:53 <peter1138> gah, pb_viaduct *still* has no description :( 13:12:56 <Born_Acorn> I was thinking of jez in particular. :p 13:12:58 <ln-> Born_Acorn: it's not random, it's deterministic. 13:13:03 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, poke Pikka. :p 13:13:50 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:03 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:22:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead of cargo destinations, i'd rather want maximum capacity of factories 13:22:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> so you have to distribute across several factories to get all cargo processed 13:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> where factory stands representative for any secondary industry 13:22:59 <ln-> are those mutually exclusive? 13:23:07 *** smeding_ [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:23:14 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: well, newgrf industries supports that, afaik 13:23:32 *** smeding_ is now known as smeding 13:23:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> but we do not support newgrf industries ;) 13:23:43 <peter1138> yet 13:24:25 <Born_Acorn> It must be Bjarni's next feature! 13:24:26 <Born_Acorn> :p 13:24:30 * Born_Acorn jests 13:25:15 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui/6.png 13:26:14 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 13:27:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> what does the lower add/remove do? 13:27:58 <peter1138> parameters 13:28:34 <Bjarni> ok, I see that people didn't take it seriously about me making new stuff 13:30:44 <Born_Acorn> I was jesting! 13:33:42 <peter1138> Bjarni: how about coding something to go in the space next to the quit button? 13:37:58 <Born_Acorn> You could call it a "button", and you could click on it to activate some yet undiscovered feature! 13:38:26 <peter1138> call it the Born_Acorn button 13:38:26 <eleusis> it's not a bug, it's a feature 13:38:33 <Born_Acorn> :( 13:38:39 <peter1138> when you click on it, it will randomly say a New* feature 13:39:11 * peter1138 clicks on Born_Acorn 13:41:46 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 13:52:04 <Born_Acorn> Stop using me! 13:52:07 * Born_Acorn cries 13:53:28 <eleusis> using Born_Acorn is against his religion 13:54:44 <Born_Acorn> Yes. In fact, Born_Acorns are against my religion 14:01:02 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 14:02:22 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:24:34 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-071-241.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 15:26:28 *** Rohan_ [~rohan@213-64-0-206-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:27:47 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6882.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:30:07 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Doom 15:32:31 *** Noldo [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:14 *** Noldo [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 15:35:37 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 15:37:48 *** Rohan_ [~rohan@213-64-0-206-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Rohan_] 15:41:53 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-175-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:45:38 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:43 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc44.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run as I ran over him.] 15:47:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006460434,00.html 15:54:41 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc44.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:56:40 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:26 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:26 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 16:07:49 *** Rens2Doom is now known as Rens2Sea 16:09:56 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 16:14:58 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: You have the urge to do some accounting...] 16:15:25 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: uncaught exception: "..." in brain.obj] 16:17:24 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 16:22:05 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-7542.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: buy bye] 16:26:31 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-175-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:26:31 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-175-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:27 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 16:28:23 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E755.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:43:46 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:44:41 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:45:01 <Sacro> oh noes 16:45:31 <hylje> ohh yes 16:46:31 *** anboni_ [daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:44 *** anboni [daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:59 <lolman> My words exactly :-D 16:48:34 *** Trenskow^ [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 16:50:46 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:27 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 16:58:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 17:00:19 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 17:01:19 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2BF2142Demo 17:01:43 *** Tron_ [v6xFWbOo@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:03:20 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 17:09:45 <Brianetta> KUDr the Mighty 17:09:54 <KUDr> :) 17:09:55 * Brianetta kneels 17:10:00 <yanek> hi! :) 17:10:09 <KUDr> hi! 17:11:20 <Sacro> KUDr! 17:11:33 <hylje> zomg 17:11:34 <KUDr> hehe 17:11:39 <lolman> KUDr! Ello! 17:11:55 <Sacro> hylje: zomg? 17:12:51 <hylje> YES! LIEK ZOMG! ORCAS! 17:12:55 <Brianetta> Zerglings! OMG! 17:13:05 <Brianetta> zomg for short 17:13:10 <hylje> kekeke 17:13:32 <Sacro> wtf is a zergling? 17:13:47 <Brianetta> Small, cheap, expedable unit in Starcraft, used to overwhelm by numbers 17:13:47 <hylje> play starcraft 17:13:51 <Brianetta> Zergling Rush 17:13:51 <hylje> and early 17:14:41 <peter1138> kudr :D 17:14:49 <Brianetta> back later 17:14:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 17:15:51 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, more NewGRF screenies! 17:15:57 <peter1138> more? 17:15:58 <peter1138> hmm 17:15:59 <Born_Acorn> MORE 17:16:14 <Born_Acorn> As in further screenshots. 17:18:09 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 17:19:01 *** Trenskow^ [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 17:22:44 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:22:54 <peter1138> :/ 17:24:01 <Born_Acorn> GUIs just interest me. :p 17:24:50 <peter1138> women interest me 17:25:04 <Born_Acorn> How many women do you have? 17:25:09 <peter1138> 5 17:25:11 <peter1138> dozen 17:25:15 <Born_Acorn> Oh. 17:25:23 <Born_Acorn> Then I won't rest my case. 17:25:26 <peter1138> 1 for each minute of the day 17:25:33 <peter1138> err 17:25:35 <peter1138> 1 for each minute of the hour 17:26:43 * Sacro 'd be happy with just 1 17:27:16 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 17:29:07 <Born_Acorn> That's strange. 17:29:11 <Born_Acorn> "Sacro'd" 17:29:20 * Born_Acorn throws Sacro at peter1138 17:29:21 <Bjarni> Sacro: I see that you are a typical Hullian 17:29:24 <Born_Acorn> SACRO'D 17:29:59 <Bjarni> btw how did it go with Test the Nation in GB? 17:30:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: you saw it then? 17:30:24 <Bjarni> yeah, I saw the link 17:30:24 <lolman> We had a TTN?? 17:30:38 <Bjarni> it's mentioned in that link 17:30:45 <Bjarni> so I presume you did 17:30:51 <lolman> What link? lol 17:30:52 <Bjarni> I think it said that BBC did it 17:31:02 <Sacro> yeah, tis the BBC 17:31:04 <Bjarni> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006460434,00.html 17:31:44 <lolman> Oh 17:31:47 <Bjarni> when they tried here, they fucked up big time 17:31:53 <lolman> I got 135 at that, it's hugely inaccurate 17:32:04 <Bjarni> and made several questions with multiple right answers 17:32:05 * Sacro got 146 IQ last one 17:32:21 * lolman probably only has an IQ of 120 or something 17:32:25 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, they have a test the nation every day here. (figure of speech) 17:32:40 <Bjarni> yeah, I can see that 17:33:03 <Born_Acorn> They always get Anne Robinson to do it. 17:33:09 <Born_Acorn> Since she did "The Weakest Link" 17:33:21 <Bjarni> it's a test of stupidity to watch daytime TV, right? 17:33:54 <Born_Acorn> Indeed. 17:34:00 <Born_Acorn> I stopped in 1996. 17:34:18 <Born_Acorn> Although sometimes my eyes stray upwards to the TV. 17:34:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host14-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:34:45 <Born_Acorn> So I put Sky Movies 9 on, which show uncensored movies if you put your Pin number in. 17:34:46 <Wolf01> hi 17:35:05 <peter1138> personal identification number number! 17:35:21 <Sacro> peter1138: wooyay! 17:35:24 <SpComb> what if you want to identify all your personal identification numbers? 17:35:36 <peter1138> sacro'd? 17:35:37 <SpComb> you number them, and then referr to pin numbers! 17:35:41 <Wolf01> peter1138, custom bridgeheads! 17:35:46 <lolman> Personal Identification Number Identifier? 17:35:53 <peter1138> PIN PIN 17:35:58 <SpComb> perhaps Born_Acorn stored all his pin numbers on his pin entering device and then just entered the pin number! 17:36:01 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:36:14 <SpComb> *PINs 17:36:29 <Born_Acorn> I have no children in this house, so It's just 9876 17:36:45 <DaleStan> personal identification number number! <-- I detect PNS syndrome. 17:36:45 <peter1138> where are you children? 17:36:54 <peter1138> +r 17:36:56 <Bjarni> if I ever watch TV during the day, then it's almost always news 17:36:57 <Born_Acorn> Oh noes! You might come to my house and order Box Office movies! D: 17:37:16 <peter1138> if i knew where you lived 17:37:38 <Born_Acorn> You should, if you found out using the same way i found out where you lived! 17:37:47 * SpComb knows where Born_Acorn lives 17:37:55 <SpComb> I can find it on google earth / windows live local 17:38:08 <Born_Acorn> Yes. I have the Microsoft SP2 discs in arabic to show for it, SpComb. 17:38:11 <peter1138> personal identifcation number number syndrome syndrome! 17:38:25 * Born_Acorn orders 50 for peter1138's address 17:38:27 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: did you find out where i've moved to? 17:38:35 <Born_Acorn> No! I didn't! 17:38:39 <peter1138> HAHA 17:38:44 <peter1138> oh shit, i updated it :( 17:38:48 * Born_Acorn shakes fist 17:38:59 <SpComb> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=wrexham,+uk&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=53.056982,-3.075045&spn=0.004062,0.013561&om=1 17:39:26 <Born_Acorn> Aylesbury, eh? 17:39:50 <lolman> You don't know where I live!! :P 17:40:03 <SpComb> do you know where I live? 17:40:08 <lolman> No :P 17:40:11 <peter1138> who cares? 17:40:18 <SpComb> does Born_Acorn? 17:40:29 <Born_Acorn> Yes 17:40:31 <Born_Acorn> Tarttila 17:40:34 <peter1138> i shall go home 17:40:35 <peter1138> get beer 17:40:37 <peter1138> and indulge 17:40:42 <peter1138> (in more grfgui stuff) 17:40:43 <SpComb> hmmk 17:40:50 <SpComb> Marttila Tarttila :/ 17:40:57 <SpComb> Mero Tarttila! 17:41:04 <peter1138> tortilla 17:41:10 <SpComb> Marttila 17:41:36 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui/6.png < see 17:41:38 <Born_Acorn> munki.org 's registrant is all in foreign language planes! 17:41:48 * peter1138 home 17:42:28 <Born_Acorn> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=HP20+1LZ,+UK&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=51.816554,-0.797507&spn=0.00317,0.013561&om=1 17:42:30 <Born_Acorn> Mwahahaha. 17:42:46 <SpComb> what's that? 17:42:58 <SpComb> peter1138? 17:43:02 <Born_Acorn> Yes! 17:43:02 <eleusis> how do you get that newgrf settings dialog? 17:43:08 * SpComb primes the nukes 17:43:13 <Born_Acorn> eleusis, he's working on it. 17:43:22 <eleusis> oh 17:43:29 <eleusis> SpComb: Defcon? :P 17:43:49 <SpComb> indeed 17:43:53 <eleusis> haha 17:43:58 <SpComb> SpComb nuclear launch detected! 17:44:05 <eleusis> i won the last tutorial mission 17:44:14 <eleusis> then i lost every game after that 17:44:20 <SpComb> I've played two AI games and one human game 17:44:29 * SpComb kind of beat WhiteHand 17:44:35 <eleusis> i've played 2 human games and countless AI games 17:45:03 <SpComb> he didn't kill a single person, and I think he only managed to down some planes. Meanwhile, there were no miltiary installations or cities with populations over 1m left in europe 17:45:25 <SpComb> and I shot all my silos, subs and bombers on carriers empty 17:45:27 <eleusis> :D 17:45:34 <SpComb> but I forgot about the bombs on my airbases :/ 17:45:50 <eleusis> such a frustrating game 17:45:58 <CIA-1> miham * r6666 /trunk/lang/ (brazilian_portuguese.txt turkish.txt): 17:45:58 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-06 08:47:45 17:45:58 <CIA-1> brazilian_portuguese - 3 fixed, 2 changed by tucalipe (5) 17:45:58 <CIA-1> turkish - 6 fixed by jnmbk (6) 17:45:59 <CIA-1> bjarni * r6668 /trunk/depot_gui.c: -Codechange: [depot window] simplified the engine drawing loop in the depot window 17:46:02 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6667 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: - Codechange: The vehicle list has no horizontal scroll bar, so don't use it to store data; instead, just get the widget's width. 17:46:02 <SpComb> set the speed to fast-fast forward 17:46:03 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6665 /branches/utf8/ (88 files in 5 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r6577:r6664 from trunk 17:46:03 <CIA-1> rubidium * r6664 /trunk/depot_gui.c: -Fix (r6513): use svn:eol-style instead of eol-style 17:46:11 <SpComb> :o 17:46:15 <SpComb> svn flood! 17:46:25 <eleusis> no, but then you can't micro naval battles properly 17:46:31 <eleusis> and your ships just die 17:46:45 <SpComb> then change the speed as appropriate 17:46:52 <eleusis> :P 17:46:54 <SpComb> I played my first game at the slowest speed, took a couple hours 17:47:08 <lolman> How much does Defcon cost? 17:47:14 <eleusis> it's grim.. every time i think i know how to beat the AI, and i still lose 17:47:20 <eleusis> lolman: the demo is free 17:47:28 <lolman> I mean the full game 17:47:31 <eleusis> um 17:47:38 <Born_Acorn> £10 17:47:41 <eleusis> 18 euros or something >_> 17:47:46 <Sacro> lolman: tenner 17:47:50 <lolman> Ooooh 17:47:53 <Born_Acorn> That's what I paid. 17:47:53 <eleusis> :) 17:47:56 <Sacro> or 15 boxed 17:48:06 <lolman> I got £12 in me bank...I'll grab a copy :-D 17:48:10 <eleusis> :D 17:48:16 <Born_Acorn> I paid 10 and got a free box. :p 17:48:22 <lolman> lmao 17:49:20 <SpComb> I'd buy it if I was capable of tranffering the money from my bank account to there 17:51:00 <lolman> £12 quid for a boxed copy... 17:51:02 <lolman> lol 17:51:08 <lolman> Oh 17:51:12 <lolman> Damn you shipping!!! 17:52:03 <Sacro> lolman: get the download edition 17:54:47 <lolman> Have done :-D 17:55:19 <lolman> Downloading it now 17:56:43 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:59:23 <lolman> W00t! =D 18:05:29 <lolman> Defcon rocksssss =D 18:05:41 <Sacro> yeah it does 18:07:38 <Born_Acorn> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 18:08:13 <Sacro> !kick Born_Acorn 18:08:13 <lolman> Born_Acorn?? 18:08:28 <Sacro> [19:04] * patchman has kicked Born_Acorn from #tycoon (patchman) 18:08:47 <lolman> lmao 18:11:05 <Born_Acorn> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 18:12:46 <Sacro> lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 18:12:46 <Sacro> lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 18:12:49 <Sacro> lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 18:12:50 <lolman> !kick Born_Acorn 18:12:51 <lolman> !kick Sec 18:12:54 <lolman> Sac** 18:12:54 <Sacro> lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 18:12:55 <lolman> LOL! 18:12:59 <Sacro> llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 18:12:59 <lolman> !kick Sacro 18:13:05 <Sacro> :| 18:13:07 <Sacro> that didnt work as wanted 18:13:09 <lolman> :P 18:13:17 <Born_Acorn> SHIT 18:13:53 <Sacro> wtf happened? 18:14:22 <Born_Acorn> (19:14:06) <Born_Acorn> I put the laptop on t'floor and a headphones fell on it! 18:14:32 <Born_Acorn> While I was away! 18:15:37 <hylje> why cant you do AAAA 18:15:41 <Sacro> off out, bbl 18:15:48 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-175-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:05 <lolman> Because AAAA sucks 18:17:58 *** Born_Acorn was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [no spam please] 18:18:08 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 18:18:10 <Bjarni> remind me to kick Sacro when he returns 18:18:18 <Born_Acorn> I was away! 18:18:22 <lolman> Will do Bjarni! 18:18:26 <Born_Acorn> Then I came back and stopped it! 18:18:37 * peter1138 kicks CIA-1 18:18:37 <CIA-1> ow 18:18:38 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 18:18:38 <Born_Acorn> !logs 18:19:08 * lolman kicks CIA-1 harder 18:19:14 <Born_Acorn> Twas accident, because of the stupid headphones. 18:19:22 <peter1138> that is what they always say 18:19:37 <Born_Acorn> patchman kicked me from #tycoon, so #openttd became the active channel. 18:19:41 <hylje> :o 18:20:00 <Bjarni> bash.org i full of stuff like that and people blame it on cats and spiders and a whole lot of other animals 18:20:05 <Born_Acorn> I was playing and sitting in my brand new car at the time. 18:20:21 * Born_Acorn will post piccies when he can find AA batteries strong enough. 18:20:34 * lolman has 4 rechargeables here ;-) 18:20:41 *** neglesaks [~Darius@83.73.66.246.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 18:20:46 * peter1138 has dozens of rechargeables 18:20:49 <peter1138> none of them are charged 18:20:57 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: they don't produce strong enough AA batteries for your sex dolls :P 18:21:05 <Born_Acorn> It's a good job I came back in time/ 18:21:24 <Bjarni> peter1138: charge them. They get a shorter lifespan if they are left without power for a while 18:21:29 <Born_Acorn> Otherwise more channels would have fallen victom to the kkkketc. 18:21:52 <Born_Acorn> They are left out if they get overcharged, too. 18:22:08 <Born_Acorn> Which is silly, since most people charge things overnight. 18:22:29 <hylje> brings to mind: http://bash.org/?621643 18:22:43 <lolman> We can't change the chemical properties of materials can we? :P 18:25:12 <peter1138> yes 18:25:17 <peter1138> we can 18:25:24 <hylje> yes 18:25:24 <peter1138> lead to gold and all that 18:26:44 <lolman> lmao 18:30:16 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?696388 <-- haha 18:30:25 <Bjarni> top elephant speed is 24 km/h 18:31:03 <peter1138> i need a superfast fridge 18:31:50 <Bjarni> put wheels on it 18:32:05 <Bjarni> and a diesel engine 18:32:27 <Bjarni> then it can drive to your location rather fast and works without plugging in the power cord 18:33:50 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?695850 <-- hmm, so smoking kills people and can make people immortal. Nice to know 18:33:51 <Born_Acorn> I've gotta get used to Unleaded. 18:33:59 <Born_Acorn> Or I'll be putting Diesel in my car. 18:34:04 <Born_Acorn> And ruining it. 18:34:14 <Bjarni> it's like Russian roulette 18:34:45 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: you are used to diesel? 18:35:35 * peter1138 wants a car with catenary 18:35:41 <Bjarni> oh they fucked up at a gas station in Denmark not long ago and the petrol pump delivered diesel and vice versa. It took them hours to discover this problem 18:35:56 <peter1138> hehe 18:35:57 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, the past two cars this family have had are diesel 18:36:09 <Bjarni> fair enough 18:36:13 <Born_Acorn> When Diesel used to be cheaper. :p 18:36:24 <peter1138> it still is 18:36:28 <Bjarni> it is 18:36:48 <Bjarni> also usually a diesel engine runs longer on the same amount of fuel 18:36:54 <Noldo> when horse power ment what it said 18:37:35 <peter1138> Bjarni: that's why it's cheaper... here it is slightly more per litre than petrol 18:39:39 <Born_Acorn> If cars ran on water it'd be taxed to hell and back. 18:39:59 *** Rens2BF2142Demo is now known as Rens2Sea 18:41:43 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 18:43:38 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-6645.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 18:48:16 <Bjarni> <peter1138> Bjarni: that's why it's cheaper... here it is slightly more per litre than petrol <-- interesting. Here a litre of diesel is around 10% cheaper than a litre of petrol 18:48:25 <Bjarni> it used to be 20% or something like that 18:51:56 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 18:53:23 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, you don't have the UK government or economy (rip-off Britain) to contend with. 18:59:33 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 19:03:16 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:23 <neglesaks> Bjarni 19:15:11 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:50 <peter1138> Bjarni: "[All] Akalamanaia: You can make vehicles refit with orders!" 19:19:59 <peter1138> Bjarni: "[All] Akalamanaia: this is cool.." 19:20:46 <Wolf01> when? where? how? 19:20:52 <hylje> on some server 19:20:55 <hylje> peter's i spose 19:23:32 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 19:24:39 <Wolf01> i wish 19:24:40 <Wolf01> go to iron ore mines station (full load) 19:24:40 <Wolf01> go to steel mill (unload) 19:24:40 <Wolf01> go to depot, replace iron ore cars with steel cars 19:24:40 <Wolf01> go to steel mill (full load) 19:24:40 <Wolf01> etc... 19:24:58 <neglesaks> 5) PROFIT! 19:25:20 <peter1138> Wolf01: yes, you can 19:25:26 <peter1138> Bjarni wrote it 19:25:34 <peter1138> in about 5 minutes or something 19:25:38 <peter1138> it was quick anyway 19:26:00 <Wolf01> :) 19:26:25 <Wolf01> in which nightly? 19:26:54 <hylje> the newest!! 19:26:58 <Frostregen> nice 19:27:02 <glx> sincd 10/03/06 19:27:22 <glx> (r6630) 19:30:41 <Wolf01> i want to be able to finish the eyecandy feature :( 19:35:53 <peter1138> 10th march? 19:36:12 <Bjarni> arggh 19:36:36 <Bjarni> I looked into that vehicle group thing 19:36:41 <Bjarni> it's a mess 19:36:56 <glx> peter1138: 3rd october :) 19:37:28 <Bjarni> also because development stopped half way though it, I waited for something to happen to it for a month and now it's full of conflicts 19:38:12 <Bjarni> and full of weird stuff like: why is CMD_REPLACE_VEHICLE removed from command.h? 19:38:13 <neglesaks> Bjarni 19:38:17 <Bjarni> neglesaks 19:38:31 <neglesaks> skal du noget den 29-31 december? 19:38:41 <Bjarni> ... 19:39:14 <neglesaks> er det et nej? 19:39:35 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 19:44:40 *** neglesaks [~Darius@83.73.66.246.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #openttd [] 19:44:46 <Born_Acorn> What, so I can replace iron ore wagons with Goods Vans? 19:44:51 <Born_Acorn> Using this orders dealy? 19:45:32 <Wolf01> why not? 19:45:50 <glx> only if iron ore wagons are refitable to goods 19:46:14 <Born_Acorn> Ah. I thought so. 19:46:27 <Wolf01> ah it doesn't replace the wagon, only refit it 19:46:38 <Born_Acorn> Yes, which is not what Wolf01 asked. 19:46:44 <Born_Acorn> Naughty peter1138, lying to us. 19:47:02 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: here are the rules for valid replacements: 19:47:24 <Bjarni> 1: have to be carry the same cargo type as the old one 19:47:57 <Bjarni> 2: for all the replace orders in the orders where the old one can refit to it, the new one needs to be able to do so as well 19:48:09 <Born_Acorn> I knew that, but I thought there'd been further development from what peter1138 said. 19:48:20 <Born_Acorn> So you could load Iron Ore, go to a steel mill, go to depot, replace wagons, load steel, and carry on to unload, and replace to steel wagons again, 19:48:30 <Bjarni> I added that orders check... yesterday I think 19:48:34 <Born_Acorn> But he was mistaken, and it isn't. 19:49:12 <Bjarni> he was mistaken? 19:49:28 <Born_Acorn> Wolf01 asked if you could replace the wagons using orders. 19:49:37 <Born_Acorn> peter1138 must have misunderstood 19:49:56 <Wolf01> what about an individual replace vehicles for every vehicle which overrides the global autoreplace? 19:50:01 <Bjarni> ahh, there is only room for refit in the orders, not replace ;) 19:50:32 <Wolf01> add some bits 19:50:34 <Wolf01> :) 19:50:41 <hylje> add some megahurz 19:50:44 <Bjarni> replace one wagon type to another one would take up 4 bytes in each order and savegame 19:50:55 <Bjarni> and a lot of code ;) 19:51:18 <Wolf01> and how much bits are used by refit now? 19:51:25 <Bjarni> 16 bits 19:51:50 <Bjarni> aka 2 bytes (CargoID and cargo subtype) 19:51:53 <Wolf01> uhm... yes, you need 2 more bytes 19:52:30 <Bjarni> no I don't 19:52:37 <Bjarni> I need 4 more bytes 19:53:15 <Wolf01> if you discard the refit thing you save 2 bytes 19:53:35 <Bjarni> it's rather tricky to reuse the current 2 bytes for something else since I have nothing to tell when it's what 19:53:44 <Bjarni> why would I discard the refit? 19:53:48 <Bjarni> I just made it 19:54:38 <Wolf01> because replace is better than refit... as to refit you have to use a grf set 19:55:17 <Bjarni> but.... by design it's really tricky to add autoreplace in this case 19:55:27 <Bjarni> because it loops all vehicles 19:56:12 <Bjarni> say we loop to vehicle 23, replace it so it's vehicle 62, then later in the loop, we reach vehicle 62 and boom, major issue 19:56:18 <Wolf01> if is individual, you can break the loop by reset the thing at every replace, so you start every time with the current type and finish with the next type 19:56:22 <Bjarni> since we already dealt with that vehicle 19:58:18 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:00:06 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:41 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:09:25 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:50 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176115095.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:16:11 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:11 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 20:17:36 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176122166.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:12 <peter1138> easier solution is to write a grf that allows lots of refitting types 20:21:14 <peter1138> infact 20:21:20 <peter1138> doesn't georges lvs have some? 20:22:09 <Wolf01> write a grf with one wagon that can carry all 20:22:35 <hylje> carry 600 units of all 20:22:59 <Wolf01> of stuff :D 20:26:49 <peter1138> yes 20:28:08 <Frostregen> and refitting for free ;) 20:28:33 <hylje> why refit.. when you can carry everything 20:29:21 <Wolf01> sound like a cheat: "allow carry everything" :P 20:29:41 <peter1138> sounds boring 20:32:27 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:35:09 <Wolf01> what i can't figure out is why you can't make a loop in autoreplace... 20:35:11 <Wolf01> if A then B, if B then A, you can't replace two times in one service, to disable it you use if A then A which is the same thing as A->B->A (but as i said, you can't replace a vehicle two times in the same service) 20:35:44 *** JohnUK89 [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:36:02 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by JohnUK89))] 20:36:06 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 20:36:10 <hylje> .. okay? 20:36:21 <lolman> Connection borked 20:46:01 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:58:48 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:06:47 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:06 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:10:25 <CIA-1> glx * r6669 /trunk/ (window.c window.h): -Add: vararg functions to set hidden/disabled/lowered state of multiple widgets in one call 21:15:22 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:21 <mikk36> lol 21:16:25 <mikk36> yahoo rocks 21:16:27 <mikk36> right ? 21:17:40 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-7542.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 21:17:41 <hylje> google 21:18:00 <mikk36> http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=pyramid 21:18:02 <mikk36> :) 21:19:53 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:25:57 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:28 <CIA-1> glx * r6670 /trunk/window.c: -Fix r6669: SetWindowWidgetsDisableState() should disable widgets, not hide them 21:30:11 <CIA-1> glx * r6671 /trunk/window.c: -Fix r6670: typo :P 21:31:43 *** Neonox_ [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:33:26 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:33:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host14-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:36:17 *** Neonox_ [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:07 *** Neonox_ [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:41 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:44 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:44:28 <CIA-1> bjarni * r6672 /trunk/ (depot_gui.c vehicle_gui.c): -Codechange: [depot & vehicle windows] applied SetWindowWidgetsDisabledState() and SetWindowWidgetsHiddenState() to depot and vehicle windows 21:52:56 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 21:56:45 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 21:57:03 *** Neonox_ is now known as Neonox 21:58:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 21:59:24 *** xyz [~ss@MTL-ppp-154502.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #openttd 21:59:51 <xyz> hello 22:00:02 <xyz> i found a bug in create scenario 22:00:37 <xyz> shell i use the forum? 22:00:45 <xyz> is there enybody 22:00:52 <Belugas> barely... 22:00:55 <Belugas> tell us 22:01:06 <xyz> ok 22:01:18 <xyz> select the random land 22:01:40 <xyz> and select No of industry = None 22:01:48 <xyz> generate 22:01:59 <xyz> put some random towns 22:02:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-156-50.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:02:24 <xyz> the click on many random Industries 22:02:45 <xyz> tadam 22:02:47 <xyz> :P 22:02:55 <Belugas> what version? 22:02:59 <xyz> last one 22:03:05 <xyz> r6654 22:03:07 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-7542.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Prison Break] 22:03:08 <xyz> and before 22:03:14 <Belugas> since when? 22:03:24 <xyz> i dont know 22:03:35 <xyz> i found it a few days ogo 22:03:39 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-156-50.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 22:04:02 <xyz> but i think since the new ground generation algorithm 22:04:51 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-156-50.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:06:20 <xyz> ok got to go 22:06:24 <xyz> see you laiter 22:06:26 <xyz> by 22:06:28 *** xyz [~ss@MTL-ppp-154502.qc.sympatico.ca] has left #openttd [] 22:07:00 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 22:07:55 <Belugas> now... is it a bug?? You specify no industries. what to except? 22:08:07 <glx> not a bug :) the setting is "no industry" so you can't add industry 22:08:08 <Belugas> maybe a disabled button would do, though... 22:08:36 <Belugas> you're righ glx 22:08:37 <glx> if you change the difficulty settings, you can add industries 22:08:39 <CIA-1> bjarni * r6673 /trunk/depot_gui.c: -Codechange: [depot window] replaced a piece of code to calculate max number of vehicles in a row with a simple read of the matrix grid 22:10:32 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 22:14:14 <mikk36> it's not a bug 22:14:17 <mikk36> it's a feature ;) 22:16:47 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22] 22:20:42 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:12 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:05 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B355BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 22:35:46 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6882.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:47 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 22:47:26 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:25 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E459.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:12 <Nigel> has miniin not been updated recently? 22:56:06 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:21 <Belugas> Nigel : no 22:57:01 <Frostregen> richk still on holidays? 22:57:14 <Belugas> quite an extensive one... 22:57:31 <Belugas> i've seen him on forums once or twive, but... that's it 22:57:42 <Frostregen> ok 23:03:52 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 23:04:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:05:36 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-185-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:04 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-137-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Frostregen_))] 23:08:17 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:17:07 <CIA-1> glx * r6674 /trunk/graph_gui.c: -Fix r6631: two loops had incorrect behaviour (out of bound access in widget arrays) 23:17:29 <Serriaromeo_> question on that no industry, will the towns build industry later or is it no industry for the entire game? 23:17:43 *** lolman [~admin@cpc2-leds2-0-0-cust888.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 23:17:53 <glx> for entire game (difficulty setting) 23:18:11 <Serriaromeo_> ok, i was hoping it would add them later on, just none to start with. 23:18:25 <Serriaromeo_> but it might be intresting to play just a passenger game. 23:18:53 <glx> it's a nice challenge :) 23:19:05 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish] 23:23:10 <Serriaromeo_> i need to write a batch file that appends the newgrf settings onto the end of the openttd.cfg file, to save having to manuly edit it every time i recomile 23:24:20 <glx> why not use the same openttd.cfg each time? 23:26:28 <Serriaromeo_> i delete it, to insure that i'm not going to have trouble when new features are added. 23:26:43 <Frostregen> echo [newgrf]>>openttd.cfg 23:26:52 <Frostregen> echo xyz.grf>>openttd.cfg 23:26:55 <Frostregen> etc 23:27:01 <peter1138> ensure 23:27:18 <peter1138> new features will just add their default either way... 23:27:30 <peter1138> so you might as well just leave it there 23:28:32 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, you still up! It must be a record! 23:29:17 <peter1138> correct 23:29:18 <peter1138> because 23:29:22 <peter1138> # i'm a record breaker 23:29:29 <Serriaromeo_> that's what i was coming up with frostregen, but if i don't have to delete it, i'll save myself the trouble then :-) 23:29:45 <Frostregen> np ;) 23:30:58 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176115095.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 23:38:03 <Serriaromeo_> hmm, just got an assertion error, gfx.c line 1389, bp.height>0 23:38:37 <glx> happens sometimes 23:38:45 <Serriaromeo_> i think it may be newgrf related, going to try again with out the grf files and see. 23:39:10 *** Iro|sleep [Irokenics@CPE-144-132-224-50.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:39:44 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:50 <Iro|sleep> is there a way to get helicopters in the later years? lol 23:41:52 <Noldo> what is there to lol about in geting helicopters on the later years? 23:46:11 <lws1984> i don't know, the thought of wanting to use the ingame copters in the later years is pretty lol-worthy 23:47:39 <Naksu> lws1984: the copter pads take up very little space :) 23:49:16 <lws1984> quite. 23:49:30 <lws1984> but still, a small airport is more efficient, in my thinking 23:57:52 <Iro|sleep> lol for the oil rigs 23:57:58 *** Iro|sleep is now known as Irokenics 23:58:31 <Irokenics> i'm running on 100 year old helicopters here lol 23:58:41 <Irokenics> and the towns built around my helipads haha 23:58:43 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 23:59:16 <Serriaromeo_> hmm, set it to no industrys, on a 128x128 map, just got notice that a factory was under construction