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00:03:32 <mikegrb> not really 00:04:14 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip144.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:06:07 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 00:06:07 <Sacro> !logs 00:06:07 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:46 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:08:58 *** lolman` [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:09:24 <svip> :| 00:09:26 <svip> MarkSlap. 00:09:29 <svip> I prefer my system. 00:09:36 <svip> Name your computers after countries. 00:09:41 <MarkSlap> :D 00:09:47 <Sacro> hmm 00:09:50 <svip> This one is Switzerland because it is my main desktop and in the middle. 00:10:04 <MarkSlap> :P 00:10:04 <svip> My laptop is called new-zealand, because it is sorta remote. 00:10:28 <svip> I have a server I called Venezuela because it is sorta distant. 00:10:35 <MarkSlap> Haha 00:10:40 <svip> And also a honour to a Venezuelan friend of mnie. 00:10:41 <svip> mine* 00:10:44 <MarkSlap> :) 00:11:16 <MarkSlap> My laptop is called "iBitch" like an parody to Apples "i"-stuff 00:11:17 <MarkSlap> :) 00:11:27 <svip> A Dutch friend I know names his computers with Finnish words. 00:11:50 <svip> So he named one of them "roska" because he found it in the garbage. 00:12:00 <svip> "roska" means garbage in Finnish. 00:12:35 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:13:00 <MarkSlap> Cool, where in netherlands do he live? :) 00:13:06 <svip> Speaking of i<noun>, MarkSlap. 00:13:10 <svip> Near Leiden. 00:13:16 <svip> MarkSlap: http://weirdo-comic.net/?date=20070122 00:13:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> you also want to find computers in the garbage? :p 00:13:26 <MarkSlap> I do :D 00:13:29 <MarkSlap> Some times ^^ 00:13:34 <MarkSlap> svip, okey ^^ 00:13:42 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:56 <svip> Eddi|zuHause3: It was purely random he came across a working computer in garbage. 00:13:57 <svip> :P 00:13:58 <MarkSlap> svip, haha :D 00:14:17 <svip> :} 00:14:27 <MarkSlap> Can't the name be "SkrÀp" instead? :) 00:14:47 <svip> What are you? Swedish? 00:14:52 <MarkSlap> Yepp 00:14:56 <svip> :o 00:15:02 <svip> DjÊvle svenska. 00:15:04 <MarkSlap> :D 00:15:24 <svip> :P 00:15:25 <MarkSlap> That was like, eh, "Satan Swedish" ^^ 00:15:31 <svip> I know. 00:15:40 <svip> You call use "djÊvle danska". 00:15:43 <MarkSlap> With an danish/norweigian "Ã" 00:15:43 <svip> -e 00:15:47 <MarkSlap> :D 00:15:50 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:15 <MarkSlap> Oh :) 00:16:24 <svip> It is not without reason my keyboard has ÊÞå keys. 00:16:38 <MarkSlap> :) 00:16:45 <MarkSlap> Are du danish? :) 00:16:54 <svip> o_o Isn't that apparent? 00:17:09 <MarkSlap> No :) 00:17:15 <glx> well .dk host may suggest it 00:17:24 <MarkSlap> Didn't check that... 00:17:31 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:01 <MarkSlap> I where in köpenhavn in july :) 00:18:11 <MarkSlap> n Tivoli ^^ 00:18:13 <MarkSlap> In* 00:18:27 <MarkSlap> I still have the "tur-pas" 00:18:28 <MarkSlap> :) 00:18:33 * glx doesn't irc client sending squares instead letters :) 00:18:42 <svip> :P 00:18:43 <glx> +like 00:18:47 <MarkSlap> :D 00:18:55 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 00:18:56 <svip> I read the ö fine. 00:19:00 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:19:06 <MarkSlap> Weird ;) 00:19:07 <glx> I read svip one fine 00:19:13 <svip> And isn't it spelt "Köpenhamn"? 00:19:22 <MarkSlap> Yepp 00:19:23 <MarkSlap> :) 00:19:27 <svip> Perhaps my client is just that awesome. 00:19:36 <svip> I have a track called "Farvel Köpenhamn". 00:19:39 <MarkSlap> But I never like the swedish spelling 00:19:43 <svip> :} 00:19:45 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:19:52 <glx> ö 00:19:55 <svip> Don't worry, Copenhagen is only "KÞbenhavn" in Danish and Norwegian. 00:20:03 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:20:04 <svip> It has a translation to most other languages. 00:20:09 <MarkSlap> Ja genau 00:20:12 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 00:20:19 <MarkSlap> Like, Copenhagen? 00:20:22 <svip> Yep. 00:20:24 <svip> And Hafnia. 00:20:24 <MarkSlap> :) 00:20:27 <MarkSlap> Haha 00:20:27 <svip> And Copenhague. 00:20:38 <svip> And Kopenhagen. 00:20:39 <MarkSlap> And "Tukholma" Finnish for Stockholm :D 00:20:45 <svip> :P 00:21:14 <MarkSlap> Stockhlm is used everywere I think (Not i Finland though) :> 00:21:51 <MarkSlap> Hmm, Stockholm* 00:22:02 <svip> Ido is one of the few languages I can find that hasn't translated its name. 00:22:22 <svip> And of course Greenlandic. 00:22:50 <MarkSlap> :) 00:23:02 <MarkSlap> Greenland is cool 00:23:02 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:23:21 <svip> o_o And apparently Novial, Runa Simi, Sámegiella, SlovenÅ¡Äina and VolapÃŒk. 00:23:22 <MarkSlap> But I cant still understand why the fuck denmark owns it :D 00:23:28 <MarkSlap> Haha 00:23:36 <MarkSlap> Do you have boring in some way? :D 00:23:41 <MarkSlap> Hmm 00:23:45 <MarkSlap> Are you bored* 00:23:45 <MarkSlap> :D 00:23:59 <svip> That makes 8 languages other than Danish that use the name "KÞbenhavn" for Copenhagen. 00:24:02 * MarkSlap is considering learning some more grammar 00:24:06 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:24:16 <svip> Other than that, there is a large variety of names 00:24:21 <MarkSlap> :) 00:24:46 <svip> Hehe, Koppenhagá 00:25:10 <svip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen << I basically just looked at the foreign articles' links. 00:25:58 <svip> And of course å¥æ¬åæ ¹ in Chinese. 00:26:47 <MarkSlap> ^^ 00:26:49 <svip> And apparently à€à¥à€ªà€šà€¹à€Ÿà€à€š in Sanskrit. 00:27:08 <glx> I fail to see Sanskrit 00:27:18 <svip> http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%A8 00:27:32 <MarkSlap> "Chinese: Four Dots" "Sanskrit: 8 small Dots" 00:27:33 <MarkSlap> :D 00:27:42 <MarkSlap> Nice languages 00:27:42 <MarkSlap> :D 00:28:48 <MarkSlap> No, if I should play some games and then sleep 00:28:53 <MarkSlap> Ciao :) 00:29:04 <glx> Chinese is properly shown here, but not Sanskrit 00:29:06 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 00:31:19 <glx> better with arial unicode 00:33:42 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498CFD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 00:35:41 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:36:40 <MrBrrr> Care to remind me the console command to bankrupt a company? When it's player wants to restart. 00:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> help? 00:38:35 <Sacro> i need somebody 00:38:57 <glx> list_cmds 00:39:13 <glx> should be something like reset_company 00:44:57 <MrBrrr> Million thanks. 00:45:00 <MrBrrr> ;) 00:54:14 <SmatZ> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1212 --- what do you think about it? would it be useful? 00:54:28 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0CjrNgK0zw <- stupid french 00:55:31 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:56:24 <glx> lol he needs a joker to reply 00:59:32 <glx> Sacro: nice one though 00:59:51 <Sacro> glx: how does he *not know* 01:00:04 <glx> good question 01:00:27 <Sacro> or do you still teach the heliocentric view of the universe? 01:00:40 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6743.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:00:56 <glx> heliocentric is the right way ;) 01:01:02 <Sacro> it bloody isnt 01:01:02 <_Ben_> arn't none of them correct, as the moon rotates around the sun, but has its orbit altered by the earth? 01:01:12 <glx> earth rotates around sun 01:01:46 <Sacro> _Ben_: moon rotates around the earth 01:01:49 <_Ben_> the question was what rotates around the earth 01:02:05 <Sacro> and the sun and all the planets rotate against 1 centre of gravity 01:04:14 <_Ben_> I was lectured that it orbits earth, but rotates around the sun 01:04:29 <Sacro> heh 01:04:41 <Sacro> orbits == rotates around 01:05:00 <glx> the correct translation is "what revolves around the Earth" 01:07:41 <Sacro> oooh 01:07:43 <Sacro> well 01:07:51 <Sacro> the moon doesn't revolve around the earth 01:07:52 <Sacro> it orbits it 01:07:54 <SmatZ> I was lectured that Earthe is the centre of the Universe :-p 01:07:59 <_Ben_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon#The_Earth_.26_Moon.27s_path_around_the_Sun 01:08:05 <Sacro> SmatZ: how boring 01:08:18 <SmatZ> Sacro: why? 01:08:19 <_Ben_> hmm, it knows much better than my retarded teachers. I need to filter crap from my head 01:08:19 <Sacro> and it smells like someone is cooking stir fry at 2:10am 01:10:24 <Phazorx> that's actualy interesting - earth canbe as well the center of the univers :) 01:10:56 <SmatZ> maybe I am the cetre of Universe ^_^ 01:12:01 <Phazorx> quite possible... not quite sure what that entitles you too 01:13:03 *** Pengo__ [~pengozNO@60-242-32-195.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:17:40 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6743.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 01:21:56 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was taught that _I_ was the center of the universe 01:24:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, ok, the actual phrase was "movement is relative to the viewer" :p 01:28:08 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D4F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:46 <Pengo__> hey guys wheres a good site to d/l openttd scenarios 01:31:23 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7673A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:34:37 <Sacro> Mein Hovercraft ist voller Aale :( 01:36:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> use them for electric power :p 01:37:51 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75ED7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:39:42 <Pengo__> aale? 01:40:19 <Phazorx> Pengo__: wiki.openttd.org 01:41:10 <Pengo__> thanks 01:41:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aal 01:43:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:50:58 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: nein, alle 01:51:03 <Sacro> *aale 01:51:06 <Sacro> Mein Hovercraft ist voller Aale 01:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> Aale = plural of Aal 01:51:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> (-> english "eel") 01:53:29 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: Ich bin kein Mitglied dieser Konferenz, dennoch möchte ich einen Pinguin. 01:54:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i don't have any... 01:54:32 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:54:46 <Sacro> De jÀttelika krÀftorna försöker ta över Jorden! :( 01:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> did anybody ever teach you to not copy-paste uncyclopedia? :p 01:56:22 <Sacro> tisn't uncyclopedia 01:56:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> but? 01:58:31 <Sacro> it makes sense to me :) 01:59:25 <Sacro> O mein Gott! Es gibt ein axt im meine kopf. 02:01:41 <Sacro> sleepytime! 02:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is gramatically incorrect 02:06:41 <Sacro> is it? 02:07:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> if i say so... 02:08:05 <Sacro> hmm 02:08:06 <Sacro> well 02:08:12 <Sacro> i do have an axe in my head 02:08:20 <Sacro> well, it certainly feels like it 02:08:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Hier fliegen gleich/die Löcher aus dem KÀse/denn nu geht sie los/unsre PolonÀse/von Blankenese/bis hinter Wuppertal" 02:08:54 <Sacro> :o 02:09:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Wir ziehen los/mit ganz groÃen Schritten/und der Erwin faÃt der Heidi/von hinten an die... Schultern" 02:10:03 <Phazorx> what does "ganz" means? 02:10:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> in that context, "really" 02:10:33 <Phazorx> and in any other? 02:10:44 * Sacro fights with student finance direct 02:10:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> depends on the context :p 02:11:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> usually "complete" 02:11:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> or the opposite of "broken" 02:11:52 <Phazorx> so like "whole" 02:12:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, that sounds fitting 02:12:14 <Phazorx> thanks 02:12:45 <Sacro> grrr 02:13:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> but in combination with another adjective/adverb, it's purely emphatic, like "really" 02:13:30 <Sacro> i hate this stupid site 02:13:33 <Phazorx> i guess in that context "whole big" or "really big" both can be used 02:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never heard "whole big"... 02:14:42 <Sacro> plusbig 02:14:45 <Sacro> doubleplusbig 02:14:59 <Sacro> hmm 02:15:05 <Sacro> this form should have been in by May 02:15:11 <Sacro> its now... september 02:15:14 <Sacro> meh *shrugs* 02:15:49 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause2: 294,000 of "whole big" on google 02:16:30 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:16:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> as opposed to 2.720.000 "really big", that does not really count as a statistically relevant measure :p 02:17:14 <Phazorx> well depends on desired menaing :) 02:17:27 <Phazorx> really big mroe applicable to most cases 02:17:45 <Phazorx> however whole big exists as well 02:18:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> the "desired meaning" is the context above, and that almost literally means "with really big steps" 02:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> PS: i forgot two verses: "das hebt die Stimmung/ja da kommt Freude auf" 02:20:12 <Phazorx> cant really argue since i dont know german :) 02:21:52 * Sacro sprechst deutsche 02:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.lyrics007.com/Gottlieb Wendehals Lyrics/POLONÃSE BLANKENESE Lyrics.html 02:22:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, damn spaces 02:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.lyrics007.com/Gottlieb%20Wendehals%20Lyrics/POLONSE%20BLANKENESE%20Lyrics.htm 02:23:47 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.169.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> grr 02:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think it makes a colour code out of "% C 4" 02:29:47 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:32:45 *** eggburt [~mr-bob@cpc2-staf2-0-0-cust186.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38:03 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096682966.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 02:39:00 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:23 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:53:00 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:01:06 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C75D.versanet.de] has joined 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06:06:13 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-88.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:06:54 <Pengo__> hey guys 06:07:09 <Pengo__> i got my trains set to 30 days service internval yet they still breakdown, how can i make it better? 06:08:05 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:09:21 *** Name101__ is now known as N101 06:13:50 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:48 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:22:25 *** Name101__ [~Name101@210.1.196.96] has joined #openttd 06:22:25 *** N101 [~Name101@210.1.196.96] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29:29 *** Name101__ [~Name101@210.1.196.96] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:29:59 *** N101 [~Name101@210.1.196.96] has joined #openttd 06:32:27 *** N101 [~Name101@210.1.196.96] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by 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Dark_Link^sleep is now known as Dark_Link^skola 10:06:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@p490.fei.wifi.vutbr.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11065 /trunk/src/ (14 files): -Documentation [FS#1186]: of the dirty marking/repainting subsystem. Patch by Progman. 10:21:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11066 /trunk/src/ (map.cpp map.h): -Documentation [FS#1091]: of map.*. Patch by Progman. 10:23:04 <mcbane> wow rubidium on patchviewing and comitting spree. 10:24:32 <Rubidium> totally non-intrusive patches ;) 10:25:04 <mcbane> heh 10:25:26 <mcbane> well ya soon back at 134 bugs/feat./patches 10:27:38 <mcbane> what about http://bugs.openttd.org/task/532? 10:28:42 <Noldo> Rubidium: while fixing documentation could you update vehicle.h line 425. It talks about a function that I belive doesn't exist anymore 10:28:48 <Rubidium> pushing patches has an inverse effect on me :D 10:29:26 <mcbane> heh 10:29:58 <mcbane> im not soovious but it is on 100% progress. but anyways im not sure if it really complete. 10:30:31 <Noldo> Rubidium: well, it might have been you that removed GetFirstVehicleInChain() so... 10:30:56 <Rubidium> Noldo: yup, you're right; I think HasFront can even be removed 10:31:33 <Noldo> even better 10:32:06 <Rubidium> anybody know a flag so the (gcc) linker complains about unused functions? 10:32:15 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D3B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:34:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11067 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: also make it possible to use the advanced vehicle list for other players. Patch by SmatZ. 10:36:31 <Noldo> -Wunused-function 10:40:17 <KouDy_> hey folks... maybe someone could aid me with something in transport tycoon... there are railroad signs right, now i put signs on the rails and then push ctrl and click again, i will get signs with yellow horizontal stripe under that if i click again, i will get white vertical stripe. what is the difference between those? 10:40:44 <KouDy_> next question is what is the point of having any of these anyway? 10:40:54 <Rubidium> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Signals 10:41:54 <KouDy_> thanks 10:42:08 <KouDy_> yea... there were also some orange lights right? 10:42:47 <Rubidium> no 10:44:08 <KouDy_> hmmm 10:44:22 <KouDy_> i remember something you needed to have PTR option on... 10:44:42 <KouDy_> i mean NPF.. 10:45:20 <KouDy_> at allowed to move 2 trains through cross rails in the same time... screen would be better i guess 10:45:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> those were PBS, that is a long time ago 10:45:36 <KouDy_> ahhh yes 10:45:37 <KouDy_> PBS 10:45:43 <KouDy_> too bad then 10:50:19 <KouDy_> hmmm i hardly can figure usage for my rails with these pre-signals... 10:51:16 <Rubidium> then your stations aren't big and busy enough 10:52:12 <KouDy_> probably 10:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> presignals are generally useful, if you have more trains than platforms at any station 11:19:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 11:20:06 *** dihedral_ [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-230-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:20:27 <guru3> presignals are the win 11:20:35 <dihedral_> hello 11:20:39 <guru3> hello 11:20:39 <SmatZ> :) 11:21:16 <KouDy_> ok i believe you :) 11:21:29 <KouDy_> but then again i barely found usage for my playing... 11:21:30 <guru3> presignals are useful in situations where if a train chooses the wrong path it could block up the line 11:21:31 <dihedral> quit 11:21:34 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:21:35 *** dihedral_ is now known as dihedral 11:21:41 <dihedral> much better 11:21:47 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-134-166.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:22:02 <mcbane> heh 11:22:14 <dihedral> hello Ammller 11:23:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F262.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 11:23:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F262.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:24:06 <dihedral> any way something could be done agains 'phlooding' 11:24:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11068 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Codechange: remove Vehicle::HasFront as all vehicles have the Vehicle::first pointer correctly set. 11:27:44 <Noldo> dihedral: what? 11:28:09 <dihedral> other players joining a game and 'phlooding' the map :-) 11:28:39 <Noldo> server password? 11:28:40 <guru3> forgive us for being incredibly confused 11:29:04 * dihedral forgives guru3 11:29:34 <dihedral> i recall there being a forum topic on, e.g. hindering players from leveling too much land at once, etc 11:29:34 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:31:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11069 /trunk/src/ (town_cmd.cpp unmovable_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: allow slopes under statues. Patch by kaan. 11:32:49 <Wolf01> how much for autoslopes? 11:38:05 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-195.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:30 *** G_ is now known as G 11:41:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-151-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:42:40 <Rubidium> 0,00000000000000001 % 11:43:54 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:44:34 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-230-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 12:05:24 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.148.163] has joined #openttd 12:07:11 *** G [~njones@202.154.148.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:09:45 <SmatZ> openttd: /mnt/svn/openttd-rev/src/engine.h:239: const RailVehicleInfo* RailVehInfo(EngineID): Assertion `e < (sizeof(_rail_vehicle_info)/sizeof(_rail_vehicle_info[0]))' failed. 12:09:52 <SmatZ> will get more info... 12:11:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> sounds like an elaborate version of an "array index out of bounds" 12:12:31 <SmatZ> it happened so fast - I started new game, then let the time flow, so AI built something... 12:12:39 <SmatZ> then it crashed in say 2 months 12:13:22 <SmatZ> again 12:15:34 <SmatZ> there is still something wrong with articulated vehicles 12:18:04 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:45 <SmatZ> maybe damaged newgrf... 12:19:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> AI code... it's time we ripped that out... 12:19:21 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:19:49 <SmatZ> backtrace shows it happens in LoadUnloadVehicle() 12:20:34 <SmatZ> http://paste.openttd.org/223 12:20:44 <SmatZ> too bad, I never did any newgrf code :( 12:22:11 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:22:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-88.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 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[~greyscale@host86-152-50-81.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:02 <Sacro> Geben Sie mich dab Geleeschaumgummiring. Ihre HinterteileSIND im Begriff zu explodieren! 17:43:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11072 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1045]: when a vehicle had a service order, the goto-depot button did not make it possible to stop the vehicle at that depot. 17:44:58 <Rubidium> mcbane: last edited is kinda "useless" as it is not updated when someone adds a comment 17:45:02 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:55 <mcbane> lol sarco 17:58:03 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 17:58:29 <Progman> why is there a while loop for the return_cmd_error-macro? 17:59:22 <Rubidium> histerical raisins 18:00:29 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A52E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:02:11 <Rubidium> my suspicion is that it was something like "do { _error = err_code; return MAGIC_NUMBER } while (0);" 18:02:32 <Rubidium> and the do { } while (0); makes it a single block that works nice in whiles, ifs etc. 18:02:57 <ln-> actually the "do" in the begin is not needed. 18:03:23 <ln-> or.. ok, in some cases yes. 18:03:25 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB78BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:34 <ln-> forget i said anything. 18:04:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: what's "dab" supposed to be?!? 18:04:57 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: *shrug* 18:05:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB78BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:05:22 <Rubidium> "ringel-s" (or however you write it in German), anyway, the thing that looks like a beta 18:06:11 <Rubidium> though maybe they write it as "dass" nowadays 18:06:12 <ln-> digital audio Ãroadcasting 18:06:35 <Sacro> an esset? 18:06:43 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: in any way, it would be wrong... 18:07:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB78BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:07:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and it does not even closely resemble like a "b" 18:08:20 <Rubidium> for somebody ignorant it looks like a B, which is a b in lowercase :O 18:10:30 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:10:32 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, it is "der Ring", so "gib mir _DEN_ [...] Ring" 18:11:41 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:12:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "daÃ/dass" are not an article, it only appears at the beginning of minor clauses, not around nouns 18:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause> s/are/is 18:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> / 18:13:12 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: anything Sacro says in a non-English language lacks any correct order of words... 18:14:11 <Sacro> indeed :( 18:14:24 <Eddi|zuHause> interestingly enough, the word order is quite correct, it just lacks any kind of sense :p 18:14:47 <Sacro> what does it say? 18:15:31 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: s/non-English// 18:15:58 <Sacro> Rubidium: Hoe gaat het met je duiven? 18:16:26 <Rubidium> Sacro: ze vliegen, net zoals jij zometeen! 18:16:39 <Sacro> :o 18:17:05 * Sacro can't read dutch 18:17:41 <Sacro> Ik geef u een recept voor zetpillen 18:17:53 <Rubidium> @kick Sacro je wilt dus echt vliegen? 18:17:54 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [je wilt dus echt vliegen?] 18:19:37 <Rubidium> I bet Sacro is now reading the logs of SpComb and returns in a short while... 18:20:23 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: You smell! 18:20:29 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:20:45 <Rubidium> @kick Sacro en die zetpillen mag je zelf in je achterste stoppen! 18:20:46 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [en die zetpillen mag je zelf in je achterste stoppen!] 18:20:59 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:21:02 <Sacro> :o 18:21:04 * Sacro hides 18:22:27 <nzvip> o_o 18:22:30 <nzvip> Some day. 18:22:37 <nzvip> When I am awfully lone. 18:28:21 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:01 <Rubidium> you're going to marry Sacro? 18:30:35 <Sacro> ^_^ 18:30:37 <Sacro> someone loves me 18:36:38 <peter1138> it's a miracle 18:36:53 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:41:23 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-30-210.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:42:03 <Sacro> yes :( 18:42:11 *** St|off [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:53:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:54:56 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:07 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 18:55:26 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4F70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:51 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:56:46 <skidd13> Rubidium: You seem to be watching FS#1161 too, can you reproduce the bug with the scenario? 18:58:43 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D3B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:56 <ln-> has someone been using DS1820 temperature sensors? 19:05:53 * Phazorx looks at channel name and topic 19:06:19 <Noldo> Computer Club Ruut uses DS1822 for tracking temperature of the space where computers are located 19:11:12 <ln-> I've been noticing those sensors tend to stop working after 2..3 years of use. 19:11:52 <ln-> Any similar experiences, or is it my serial adapters that break them? 19:15:57 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 19:15:57 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:15 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:58 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h232n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 19:17:21 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0FD04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:15 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096689158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 19:21:08 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:29 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 19:27:10 <Rubidium> skidd13: that's just because there is no way it can build roads without slopes from there 19:27:32 <Rubidium> not quite a bug, but rather "bad" luck as the town will not terraform water 19:28:44 <skidd13> But I noticed that something like this could happen in the middle of a flat map 19:29:25 <Rubidium> it's usually the town making it impossible to expand itself -> i.e. bad luck for the town, or rather AI stupidity 19:29:47 <skidd13> I'm glad to hear that. 19:31:19 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos town AI, i play with road layout "improved", and i think the towns often build very straight roads, it should be forced to build road crossings more often 19:31:35 <Wolf01> 'night 19:31:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:32:39 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:32:50 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i looked at town code, it only ever built 2 road bits on a new tile, it should randomly also build 3 and 4 road bits at once 19:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise, the probability is too high, that all possible crossing locations will be blocked by houses 19:34:02 <Greyscale> brb, I heard a girl say desperate about a quarter of a mile away. 19:34:13 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause: I'll have a look at it 19:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Greyscale: i really do not think anybody her cares... 19:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause> *here 19:35:00 <Eddi|zuHause> note, that "last time" is well before new road layouts 19:38:35 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:09 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:40:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:26 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:46 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F2EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:02 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause: The default algorithm didn't change by adding the new road layouts. 19:43:19 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but i said i was using the "improved" layout meanwhile, and i do not know how that one works 19:44:56 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 19:45:32 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0FD04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:00 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:07 <skidd13> it works quite the same, only one different check 19:49:12 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip150.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 19:51:50 <MarkSlap> I've realized that the fast aircrafts (ca. 2.400km/h) and Lev 4 Maglev-trains (640km/h) are going at the same speed in the game 19:52:01 <MarkSlap> Why is that? 19:52:13 <Rubidium> because Chris coded it that way 19:52:34 <MarkSlap> Okey :P 19:52:34 <Prof_Frink> because openTTD does not implement the planespeed switch. 19:52:35 <ln-> MarkSlap: the plural of aircraft is aircraft 19:52:42 <MarkSlap> Okey :D 19:52:43 <Eddi|zuHause> because you do not use nightlies ;) 19:52:48 <MarkSlap> ;) 19:53:16 <MarkSlap> I don't use planes anymore because of that :p 19:54:14 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096689158.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 19:54:48 <MrBrrr> Quick question (motivated by lazyness): Which function(s) handle(s) drawing the train and it's wagons? 19:55:19 <SmatZ> ViewportAddVehicles() in vehicle.cpp 19:55:39 <Rubidium> *Dirty* 19:56:06 <Rubidium> DrawSprite 19:56:26 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:56:36 <Rubidium> Blitter::Draw 19:57:19 <SmatZ> well... depends what part of drawing you mean :) 19:57:20 <Rubidium> AddSortableSpriteToDraw 19:58:01 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:58:23 * Rubidium tries to find more functions that have something to do with drawing of trains, but are totally useless for MrBrrr ;) 19:58:37 <MrBrrr> Woohoo ;) Keep em coming! 19:58:49 <SmatZ> :-) 19:59:51 <Eddi|zuHause> anything in cocoa.* ;) 20:00:39 <Rubidium> BeginVehicleMove, EndVehicleMove, UpdateVehiclePosHash 20:00:56 <Rubidium> AfterLoadVehicles has some influence on the drawing too 20:01:10 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 20:01:16 <Eddi|zuHause> ttd_main ;) 20:01:32 <SmatZ> exec(), fork() 20:01:46 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:07:51 *** lolman` is now known as lolman 20:09:20 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-30-210.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:11 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CBBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:58 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F2EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:02 *** St|off [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:19:10 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-150-7-20.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:51 *** St|off [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [] 20:29:46 <skidd13> good night 20:29:52 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4F70.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 20:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11073 /branches/0.5/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 20:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r11039, r11029, r11027, r11024, r11021, r11020, r11018): 20:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Underflow that caused overflows in the performance rating [FS#1179] (r11039) 20:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix [Windows]: MIDI does not stop when closing openttd [FS#1164] (r11029) 20:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not unconditionally assume that a tile has a depot (r11027) 20:36:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Give a more correct error when building some things on tile 0 [FS#1173] (r11024) 20:36:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not display income/expenses when they do not belong to a "valid" tile, like the money cheat and giving money [FS#1175] (r11021) 20:44:07 *** thgergo_ [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:17 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:45:27 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-150-7-20.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:41 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:49:57 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:51:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77011.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:52:44 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C75D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:53:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11074 /branches/0.5/ (12 files in 2 dirs): 20:53:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r11040): 20:53:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Removing CMD_AUTO from some commands could remotely trigger an assertion [FS#1179] (r11040) 20:53:22 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:25 <ln-> has there been any attempts to have a wikipedia-style policy for an open source software project, i.e. allowing anyone to submit changes to version control? 20:54:33 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:54:35 <Rubidium> is there anybody who cares enough about the stable releases to give the 0.5 branch a little testing? 20:54:57 *** Arpad70 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:58 * ln- is not interested in horses 20:55:57 <Progman> 0.5 release testing although 0.5.3 exists? or what do you mean? 20:56:16 <Rubidium> 0.5.3 does not exist 20:56:24 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-163-221.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 20:56:54 <Rubidium> however, I've (basically) added some fixes to 0.5.3-RC3 and want to release that as 0.5.3 20:57:22 <Rubidium> the 0.5 branch is where the 0.5.X-RCX and 0.5.X are branched of 20:57:41 <glx> *tagged 20:57:48 <Progman> ah, okay 20:57:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77864.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:24 *** Arpad70 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:28 <Rubidium> branched/tagged, what's the difference from a SVN pov? 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Patch by GeekToo. 21:15:57 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:45 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:24:47 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:51 *** goddamnit [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 21:25:39 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:25:40 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:41 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:40 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:39:22 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@ip228.cab85.tln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 21:39:52 *** mikk36 is now known as Guest3127 21:39:53 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 21:40:26 *** Guest3127 [~mikk36@ip228.cab85.tln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:25 *** lalelu [~maui_key@p5498FBC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:41 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:40 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:44:25 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498FBC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 21:45:14 *** lalelu is now known as mcbane 21:47:20 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:49 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-150-7-20.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:42 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:28 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:57:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11076 /trunk/src/blitter/ (32bpp_anim.cpp 32bpp_base.hpp 32bpp_simple.cpp): 21:57:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: MakeTransparent of 32bpp blitter used 0..100; using 0..255 makes it much faster (frosch) 21:57:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: ComposeColourXXX could work a tiny bit faster when using 256, not 255 as value to divide with; downside is that it can give alpha errors (frosch) 22:00:31 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:00:40 <ln-> what? divide and not bit-shift? 22:01:06 <TrueBrain> any compiler does that for you 22:01:30 <SmatZ> compilers even substitute division by multiplication and shifts 22:01:41 <TrueBrain> @op 22:01:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 22:01:51 <TrueBrain> hmm, my IRC lost old topics, bah... 22:01:55 <ln-> but it's against the ottd coding style not to bit-shift wherever possible. 22:02:00 <TrueBrain> can any other operator change it back to the old topic? 22:02:09 <TrueBrain> ln-: where is that defined? 22:02:22 <TrueBrain> for as long as I remember, we try to replace bitshifts with more readable code 22:02:28 <SmatZ> only difference - when you try to do divide a signed value, it will generate non-optimal shifting code, because it will try to handle negative values... 22:02:30 <TrueBrain> but, I can be wrong :) 22:02:32 <ln-> the unwritten, unpublished coding style manual 22:02:55 <SmatZ> ln- there is division instead of shifts almost everywhere in the code... :( 22:03:01 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 22:03:16 <TrueBrain> ln-: we only have a published coding style 22:03:19 <Tefad> wouldn't the compiler handle this already? 22:03:24 <TrueBrain> Tefad: yes 22:03:33 <Tefad> and if your types are signed/unsigned, it will know 22:03:39 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: true, lucky we mostly use unsigned variables :) 22:03:42 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: doesn't your log retain topics? 22:03:48 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: possible, but I am lazy ;) 22:03:52 <glx> TrueBrain: 0.5.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | No 'mom', no IRC Quote Website links 22:04:13 <glx> 31/08/07 22:04:14 <Tefad> mom? 22:04:28 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices 22:04:30 <TrueBrain> tnx glx 22:04:33 <SmatZ> mom = moment, not mother 22:04:41 <Tefad> no idea what that is either 22:05:42 <SmatZ> will there be 0.5.3-RC4, or just 0.5.3 ? 22:05:43 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F793.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:10 <Rubidium> SmatZ: mom != moment, mom == mother <- that was the reason for the no 'mom' 22:08:05 <Rubidium> at least, that's what I gather from the logs of "way back" 22:08:23 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes... as I undertand it, people misused 'mom' for 'moment' 22:08:31 *** Arpad70 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:32 <Rubidium> SmatZ: if people care to test the current 0.5 branch 0.5.3, otherwise 0.5.3-RC4 22:09:15 <nzvip> What's wrong with writing "moment"? 22:09:27 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CBBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:54 <Rubidium> nothing, but using 'mom' for moment is 22:09:58 <SmatZ> :) 22:10:04 <nzvip> :o 22:11:03 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:21 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 22:15:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17:58 <SpComb> http://zapotekii.paivola.fi:8160/ 22:18:26 <SpComb> OpenTTD related and such, I'd just be interested in hearing some comments 22:20:03 <guru3> "MyOTTD Like very, very alpha" 22:20:09 <guru3> that's a versioning system i can agree with 22:20:23 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:15 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 22:21:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:27:26 *** iBitch [me@h232n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:31 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-150-7-20.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27:38 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h232n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:56 * SpComb is off to zZzZz, but is still interested in opinions on the main idea itself, and such 22:29:17 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B7A166.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11077 /branches/0.5/ (7 files): [0.5] -Fix: Possible NULL pointer dereference. 22:36:40 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 22:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes... as I undertand it, people misused 'mom' for 'moment' <- it's kind of a "false friend", because in german. "mom" is a very common abbreviation for "moment" 23:00:47 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-151-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01:20 *** Dark_Link^skola is now known as Dark_Link^sleep 23:02:33 <Eddi|zuHause> <ln-> but it's against the ottd coding style not to bit-shift wherever possible. <- do not use existing code as "precidence case" for coding style... the coding style defines the coding style, not the code 23:08:31 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 23:08:31 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11078 /trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 23:16:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: added 32bpp-optimized, which is almost twice as fast as 32bpp-simple (based on the work of frosch) 23:16:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: let 32bpp-anim use 32bpp-optimizeds, so he profits from the speed-up too 23:16:28 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:34 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 23:17:53 <TrueBrain> so now even more people can play 32bpp :) 23:18:23 <TrueBrain> (Still 4 times as slow as 8bpp-optimized) 23:18:26 <ln-> 32 bits is so 90's, i want 64. 23:20:26 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096689158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 23:22:59 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: it's reverse for me... 23:23:10 <Eddi|zuHause> 8bpp is extremely slow 23:23:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064060.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23:24 <TrueBrain> of course it depends on your video backend :) 23:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause> btw, i checked 0.5, and it is fast there... 23:24:05 <TrueBrain> now that is odd, as 8bpp-optimized is almost exactly the same 23:24:21 <TrueBrain> it just uses more memory 23:24:25 <TrueBrain> (as it stores all zoom-levels) 23:27:01 <TrueBrain> hmm, nobody noticed animation no longer works? :s 23:31:20 *** goddamnit [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:31 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 23:35:36 *** Kyjo [ibygtkftmj@nezmar.netlab.cz] has joined #openttd 23:41:45 <TrueBrain> now that was stupid, my own mistake :s 23:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> started with wrong argument? :p 23:44:36 <TrueBrain> no, I had all 8bpp images converted as 32bpp images without mask 23:44:39 <TrueBrain> no mask == no animation 23:44:44 <TrueBrain> grr :p 23:48:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11079 /trunk/src/blitter/32bpp_anim.cpp: -Fix: dirty fix to allow big-screenshots with 32bpp-anim 23:57:49 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 23:57:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11080 /trunk/src/blitter/32bpp_anim.cpp: -Fix r11079: fix it, still dirty, correctly, as the last commit was ... wrong ;) 23:58:13 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D998.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not going to update until i am in a conflict resolving mood... 23:59:15 <TrueBrain> what do you have as local changes? :)