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00:01:15 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:01:47 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:24:33 <Gonozal_VIII> wow... we've been playing for 2h now and it's april in the first year 00:24:34 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:25:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:25:12 <Gonozal_VIII> (1875) 00:36:00 *** ben_goodger [~ben@86.156.58.184] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:43:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:48:46 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:49:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:50:00 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 00:52:37 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 00:55:13 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-178-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:01:28 <Gonozal_VIII> panic! forum doesn't work! 01:02:26 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: 1am, backup time 01:02:38 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... 01:12:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:12:48 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:24:12 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 01:28:28 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 01:34:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-200.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:35:54 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77DDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:36:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:36:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:42:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77DC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:11 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [] 01:48:36 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-201-185.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:00:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:00:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:07:09 <Gonozal_VIII> stop flooding mucht 02:09:07 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CE93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:09:12 <fjb> Moin 02:09:19 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 02:09:46 <fjb> Is there a way to set waypoints for trucks? 02:09:58 <SmatZ> drive-through station 02:10:14 <fjb> But the truck stops there. 02:10:22 <SmatZ> yeah 02:10:32 <fjb> That is not good. 02:10:54 <Gonozal_VIII> make waypoints or nonstop orders for trucks then :-) 02:10:58 <SmatZ> you may penalise other tracks, maybe crossing is a penalty for YAPF for roads 02:11:06 <Sacro> hehe... penalise... 02:11:08 <SmatZ> sure it is slopes 02:11:14 <SmatZ> :) 02:11:21 * SmatZ is used to openttdcoop :) 02:12:24 <fjb> My trucks insist on going over the slowest bridge only because thay way is two tiles shorter than the fastest path. 02:12:31 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:12:42 <SmatZ> fjb: can you upgrade the bridge? 02:12:55 <fjb> No, the town owns that bridge. 02:13:09 <SmatZ> you can upgrade town owned bridge 02:13:18 <SmatZ> or you should be 02:13:22 <SmatZ> in nighties / beta 02:13:22 <fjb> How? 02:13:30 <SmatZ> just build a new bridge over the old 02:14:13 <fjb> Oh, it works. That is new. It didn't work about a month ago. 02:15:21 <fjb> And why did I build a hyper modern highway when that works? :-/ 02:15:43 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 02:17:02 <fjb> Here is my unused high way: http://www.myimg.de/?img=Cityline17Jul197507f46.png 02:17:24 <fjb> Is that overbuilding feature for town owned bridges new? 02:18:42 <Gonozal_VIII> the other way isn't shorter... 02:19:06 <Gonozal_VIII> oh, it is 02:19:52 <fjb> It is about 2 tiles shorter, if I'm still able to count that late at night. 02:20:18 <Gonozal_VIII> yes i noticed it behind those buildings 02:20:46 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:21:25 <fjb> Maybe I should have build speed bumps. :-) 02:21:34 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 02:21:57 <fjb> Going uphill seams to be a penalty. 02:22:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> fjb: depending on your definition of "new"... i don't think it was in 0.5, but overbuilding of bridges has been around quite a while 02:22:47 <Gonozal_VIII> corners are penalty... 02:23:17 <Gonozal_VIII> highway path would have 2 corners less 02:23:53 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause3: I didn't work last time I tried it. And that was a nightly build, no 0.5.x. 02:24:10 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:24:33 <fjb> Corners are a low penalty then. 02:24:47 <Gonozal_VIII> you can change that :-) 02:24:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:24:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can adjust yapf penalties 02:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> patch yapf.road_* 02:25:21 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause3 the patch master. :-) 02:25:27 <Gonozal_VIII> cfg... 02:25:29 <Gonozal_VIII> no need to patch it 02:25:43 <Gonozal_VIII> road_slope_penalty = 200 02:25:43 <Gonozal_VIII> road_curve_penalty = 100 02:25:43 <Gonozal_VIII> road_crossing_penalty = 300 02:25:43 <Gonozal_VIII> road_stop_penalty = 800 02:25:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> "patch" is a console command 02:25:45 <fjb> I know how Eddi|zuHause3 means it. 02:25:52 <Gonozal_VIII> ah 02:26:40 <fjb> But I prefer not to change global settings just to optimize one route. It may have undesired effects on the other routes. 02:27:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> level crossings are a quite sure way to make a route undesirable 02:27:34 <fjb> The faster bridge helps a lot now. 02:27:35 <Gonozal_VIII> you could take an unused railtype like monorail, replace the crossing sprites with plain road sprites, set a high penalty for crossings and use that^^ 02:28:11 <fjb> Hm, the prefered way has a lot of crossings. 02:28:29 <Gonozal_VIII> rail crossings 02:28:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> what he said 02:28:51 <fjb> Propoer waypoints for road vehicles would be better. 02:29:11 <fjb> Propper 02:29:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd log 8570 02:29:21 <fjb> I can not type anymore. 02:29:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd commit 8570 02:29:38 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: Commit by tron :: r8570 /trunk/src (airport.cpp airport.h) (2007-02-04 10:25:57 UTC) 02:29:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: -Fix 02:29:40 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: Add a regular constructor and destructor to AirportFTAClass 02:29:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd commit 8568 02:29:47 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: Commit by maedhros :: r8568 /branches/newhouses/src (3 files) (2007-02-03 22:07:49 UTC) 02:29:48 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: [NewHouses] -Fix: Only count buildings after the map array has been updated, when the house id and town index will be correct. 02:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, wrong... 02:30:02 <Gonozal_VIII> propper is that bald guy 02:30:13 <ln-> guten morgen 02:30:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd commit 8567 02:30:20 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: Commit by maedhros :: r8567 trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp (2007-02-03 21:55:14 UTC) 02:30:21 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: -Feature: Allow upgrading bridges by building a new bridge over the top. (Based on a patch by gigajum) 02:30:22 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: - The replacement bridge must be the same transport type, and if it's a rail bridge it must have the same railtype. 02:30:23 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: - Town owned bridges can also be upgraded, but only to a bridge with a higher top speed. 02:30:23 <fjb> Moin ln- 02:30:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> there 02:31:18 <fjb> Oh, thank you. Then I did something wrong the last time I tried it. 02:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> believe me now that it's quite old? 02:31:44 <fjb> I believe you almost everything. 02:32:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> right... my account number is: ... 02:32:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> please send 100⬠minimum 02:33:29 <fjb> I didn't talk about paid support. 02:34:05 <fjb> I have to spend my money on a base tunnel. 02:36:21 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:36:21 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest483 02:36:22 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 02:40:38 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.180] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 02:42:47 *** Guest483 [~Dale@pool-71-98-88-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:48:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:53:15 *** ConstyXIV [~andrew@74-128-188-193.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: ConstyXIV] 02:54:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7D730.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:54:54 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08:06 *** cape_horn [~dont@125.60.235.203] has joined #openttd 03:08:18 <cape_horn> hello 03:08:23 <cape_horn> can i ask some question... 03:08:52 <cape_horn> i need a clear differentiation between the new airports 03:08:54 <cape_horn> please.. 03:09:01 <De_Ghost> what? 03:09:21 <cape_horn> in the openttd there are new airports.. so if you can like explain one by one.. 03:09:34 <cape_horn> there are several of them.. if you got links that i can read. then much better. 03:09:35 <cape_horn> thanks 03:10:41 <De_Ghost> new airports? 03:10:41 <Belugas> what exactly do youi want to know a bout them? 03:10:56 <De_Ghost> they are airports lol 03:10:57 <cape_horn> coz i build a commuter airport 03:11:05 <cape_horn> i just need to know the differences 03:11:07 <De_Ghost> they are just diffrent size 03:11:07 <cape_horn> hehe 03:11:14 <De_Ghost> more parking 03:11:15 <cape_horn> yeah and different capacity 03:11:27 <cape_horn> when will the airport hub get activated? 03:11:35 <De_Ghost> what u mean? 03:11:40 <De_Ghost> when they get cargo? 03:11:46 <De_Ghost> send a plane to it first 03:12:00 <cape_horn> no, i mean im talking about the NEW SET OF AIRPORTS.. 03:12:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:12:06 <cape_horn> some are unclickable 03:12:25 <Belugas> they are going to be available when the dates are met 03:12:28 <De_Ghost> oh 03:12:29 <cape_horn> ohh 03:12:32 <De_Ghost> yea 03:12:32 <De_Ghost> lol 03:12:34 <cape_horn> hehe 03:12:36 <cape_horn> thanks 03:12:36 <Belugas> i think there is a wiki regardgin that... 03:12:38 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:12:39 <cape_horn> no 03:12:41 <cape_horn> there isnt 03:12:43 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 03:12:43 <cape_horn> ive been searching 03:12:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:13:21 <Belugas> well in that case, there are the sources... 03:13:22 <Belugas> wait 03:13:23 <cape_horn> OMG 03:13:28 <cape_horn> waaa 03:13:31 <cape_horn> i saw it 03:13:32 <cape_horn> thanks guys 03:13:39 <cape_horn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Airports 03:13:40 <cape_horn> hehe 03:13:49 <cape_horn> thanks belugas for saying the keyword 03:13:53 <cape_horn> im just being dumb. sorry 03:14:05 <cape_horn> either way.. im enjoying the game. i got too much HD games lately 03:14:26 <Belugas> well.. look at that :) 03:15:08 <Belugas> you're not dumb. You actually did searched before asking :) 03:15:22 <Belugas> there are quite a few who do not even know how to spell search 03:15:22 <Belugas> lol 03:16:04 <cape_horn> hehe thanks 03:16:14 <cape_horn> anyways got to go back at the game 03:17:04 <Belugas> enjoy it 03:17:18 * Belugas jumps in his bed 03:23:08 <De_Ghost> void push_front( const Object & ); 03:23:16 <De_Ghost> const Object & 03:26:40 <De_Ghost> nvm 03:32:34 *** Forked [~kjetil@static243-191-234.adsl.no] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:32:48 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 03:35:16 <De_Ghost> can we acually make object like this? 03:35:16 <De_Ghost> SingleNode<Object> temp; 03:35:16 <De_Ghost> temp = new SingleList<Object>; 03:35:24 <De_Ghost> don't we have to malloc it/ 03:35:26 <De_Ghost> ? 03:35:52 *** cape_horn [~dont@125.60.235.203] has quit [] 03:36:18 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:36:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined 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maken enzo 12:36:27 <yorick> hier* 12:38:04 <keyweed> Dutch: english dude :) 12:38:20 <Dutch> ah sorry :p 12:38:24 <keyweed> we haven't conquered the world ... yet. 12:38:37 <Dutch> we would have... damn english folks 12:39:10 <yorick> new Amsterdam was so much better than suriname 12:39:23 <Dutch> new amsterdam was so much better then new york ;) 12:39:44 <yorick> remove the ;) 12:40:40 <Dutch> I can't! damn diabolical multiplayer notepad. 12:41:18 <SmatZ> :-P 12:43:23 <peter1138> Why is 'than' -> 'then' so common for non-native English speakers? 12:44:00 <yorick> its the same work 12:44:03 <yorick> word* 12:44:10 <yorick> it both translates as "dan" 12:44:13 <Dutch> it sounds the same 12:44:43 <peter1138> Not in English. 12:45:09 <Dutch> Fine, you win! http://grammartips.homestead.com/than.html 12:45:16 <keyweed> in Dutch we have just one word for both meanings. 12:45:27 <yorick> that's what I said 12:45:57 <keyweed> Speaking several different languages on several different channels also complicates matters. 12:46:06 <Dutch> indeed 12:46:24 <peter1138> That's why you should all speak English only ;) 12:46:34 <keyweed> native english speakers always seem to think so 12:46:40 <yorick> the other way around! 12:46:44 <keyweed> a lot of dutch people think everyone should speak dutch 12:46:52 <yorick> see? 12:48:14 <keyweed> personally i think esperanto is the way to go, but I'm affraid few people would agree. 12:49:39 <Dutch> ffs, leet speak. 12:49:45 <keyweed> a democratic solution wouldn't be very good either, we'd all need to learn Chinese then 12:49:58 <yorick> I'm already doing so 12:50:11 <yorick> ;- 12:50:13 <yorick> ] 12:50:24 <keyweed> impressive. don't think i could if my life depended on it... 12:56:12 <TinoDidriksen> If you must use an artificially constructed language, Klingon is the way to go. 12:58:27 <Tefad> lojban. 12:58:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:09:24 *** yorick is now known as Yorick|AFK 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Some required glyphs were not loaded. 13:49:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Fix: Large capital U with grave (?5?3) along with some other glyphs are broken in the original data files, so do no display them. 13:50:22 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:50:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:52:30 <Yorick> hello 13:53:15 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r11982 /trunk/src/oldloader.cpp: -Revert (r8738): Now we have shores in corners. No need to remove them from TTDP games. 13:55:06 <Yorick> committing goes well 14:01:57 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 14:03:45 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:46 <peter1138> yeah, all these reverts... 14:05:16 <SmatZ> no problem to make 11900 reverts to be back on revision 1 14:05:44 <frosch123> I will not write that commit message! 14:05:55 <SmatZ> :) 14:06:00 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 14:07:07 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 14:07:28 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:06 <Yorick> ok, holland is the worst country to mae a heightmap of 14:08:14 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-250-145.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 14:08:35 <Yorick> even if it was only because of it being below sea 14:08:39 <Belugas> try Vatican :P 14:08:46 <Belugas> or Luxemburg 14:08:59 <peter1138> heh, you need that sealevel patch 14:09:05 <Yorick> anything that is above sea 14:09:08 <peter1138> Andorra! 14:09:17 <Yorick> yes, any smaller? 14:09:29 <peter1138> monaco? heh 14:09:32 <frosch123> Liechtenstein, San Marino 14:09:34 <Yorick> it would be nice to make 2048x2048 from it... 14:09:37 <frosch123> are that all? 14:10:41 <frosch123> Jasper would like Monaco :) 14:11:54 <Yorick> I'm learning squirrel for noAI, I like it :) 14:13:17 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 14:13:52 <Yorick> but can it write files, too? 14:17:27 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:17:37 <Belugas> and serve coffee? 14:17:45 <Belugas> that would be nifty! 14:19:39 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:49 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:22:38 <Yorick> I only want to try a self-learning AI 14:22:48 <Yorick> but that cant be done without files 14:24:53 <glx> it may need a wrapper for that 14:25:24 <Yorick> I can write numbers to files 14:25:24 <roboboy> gnight 14:25:36 <SmatZ> night roboboy 14:25:38 <Yorick> and convert numbers to chars 14:25:54 <Yorick> but I can't convert chars to integers :( 14:26:35 <SmatZ> hmmm AI as newgrf 14:27:21 <glx> no way SmatZ 14:27:25 <SmatZ> :-D 14:27:34 <SmatZ> joking 14:28:08 <Yorick> well there are air traffic controllers as newgrf :-) 14:28:59 <Yorick> aka FSM 14:29:17 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-120-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:19 <glx> it's not air, it is on ground 14:29:52 <Yorick> you know the meaning :) 14:30:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 14:30:18 <glx> FSM is not a problem for newgrf, the flow is clear 14:30:52 <glx> usings loops is not the same 14:31:14 <hylje> flying spaghetti monster 14:31:15 * Yorick knows ;) 14:33:28 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:43 * Belugas assigns noGRFAI to yorick 14:33:55 <Yorick> :O 14:33:58 *** DJNekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:08 <Yorick> I'm no developer 14:34:32 <Belugas> good point 14:34:40 <Belugas> my point 14:34:46 * orudge` points his finger at bl 14:34:48 <orudge`> Belugas, even 14:34:57 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-168-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35:26 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 14:35:30 <Yorick> ? 14:36:43 <Belugas> hehehe 14:37:19 *** DJNekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 14:37:49 <Yorick> I think AIwriting could be done with callback every tick 14:37:59 * Yorick thinks wrong way 14:40:53 <Yorick> I want them to have an IRC channel 14:41:34 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:51 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:12 * Belugas assigns noIRCAI to yorick 14:42:25 <Yorick> erm...huh? 14:43:03 *** Guest521 [~Bastiaan@dsl-087-195-031-183.solcon.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:43:31 <Gonozal_VIII> he was joking all the time, obviosly he wouldn't assign any ai programming to a bot :P 14:43:38 * Noldo assigns noTestAI to Yorick 14:44:05 <Yorick> stop assigning me Ai's 14:44:10 <Yorick> I'm one too! 14:46:32 *** elmz [~schouw@52.84-48-63.nextgentel.com] has left #openttd [] 14:46:33 * Belugas assigns yorick to yorick 14:46:40 <Yorick> aw 14:46:54 <Yorick> I can't be assigned to myself 14:47:19 <Noldo> x = x is completely valid 14:47:32 <Gonozal_VIII> just let yorick play in every game instead of the game ai, maybe he is a little better sometimes :-) 14:48:02 <Yorick> stop highlighting me! 14:48:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm not highlighting you yorick! 14:48:20 <keyweed> wait for it. 14:48:23 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:48:24 <Gonozal_VIII> why would i do that yorick? 14:48:26 * keyweed pokes Yorick 14:48:42 * Belugas highlights Yorick 14:52:10 *** DJNekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:24 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 14:56:55 * Yorick highlights Belugas , and highlights Belugas again because he likes to 14:57:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:38 <glx> Yorick: it is indeed only 1 hl ;) 15:05:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:07:11 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 15:08:25 <Yorick> g2g, bye! 15:08:38 <Belugas> bye Yorick 15:08:42 <Belugas> see you Yorick 15:08:48 <Belugas> be back soon Yorick 15:08:49 <Belugas> ;) 15:08:55 <Yorick> bye belugas 15:08:56 * Belugas hugs Yorick 15:08:58 <Yorick> cya belugas 15:09:01 * keyweed kisses Yorick 15:09:13 <Yorick> I hope I will se ou again soon belugas 15:09:26 * Yorick kisses Keyweed back 15:09:33 <Belugas> i guess i have no choice on this one ;) 15:09:36 <Yorick> goodbye everyone, including belugas! 15:09:50 <Yorick> ;) 15:10:10 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: bye all, yes, belugas too :-P] 15:12:39 <Belugas> about time... i was about to cry :P 15:12:45 <Belugas> i hate departures 15:12:55 <Belugas> they always make me feel sad 15:12:59 <peter1138> :o 15:15:12 <murr4y> :/ 15:15:37 <Belugas> NOT 15:18:55 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:19:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:22:12 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:28:12 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:29:45 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:44 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!!] 15:37:04 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:11 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:37:29 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:36 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:43:00 *** murr4y is now known as murray 15:43:08 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 15:45:02 *** pv2b_ is now known as pv2b 15:48:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r11983 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Add some helper functions for slopes and use them. 15:48:40 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:51:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:53:48 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:54:46 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:55:41 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:57:00 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:59:47 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7D329.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:13 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:00:20 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:04:47 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:05:04 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:08 *** Dutch [~sebas@d594e56c.dsl.concepts.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7D730.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:04 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:10:27 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:11:03 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:44 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:19 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.143] has joined #openttd 16:15:36 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:17:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host246-61-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:18:04 <Wolf01> hello 16:18:35 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-129-238.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:46 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-250-145.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:24:57 *** TX [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:52 *** DJNekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:33:18 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip157.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:33:28 <LordAzamath> hey 16:34:56 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-106-52-232.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40:11 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@145.74.180.155] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 16:41:03 *** reactor-- [~maor@bzq-79-176-128-64.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:08 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:44:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:47:17 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-129-238.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:25 <Sven_M> Hi 16:51:57 <Bjarni> hi 16:52:16 <Bjarni> any news? 16:53:18 <SmatZ> CIA-3: wakeup! 16:53:26 <SmatZ> hello Bjarni 16:53:26 * Bjarni kicks CIA-3 16:53:27 <CIA-3> ow 16:53:30 <SmatZ> lol 16:53:34 * glx kicks CIA-3 16:53:34 <CIA-3> ow 16:53:39 <mmcbane> heh 16:53:44 * Eddi|zuHause3 kicks CIA-3 16:53:44 <CIA-3> ow 16:53:52 *** Bastiaan [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 16:54:02 * Bjarni eats CIA-3 16:54:07 * CIA-3 tastes crunchy 16:54:11 <SmatZ> :-D 16:54:15 * Bjarni punches CIA-3 16:54:21 <Sven_M> Love the game.. (and the original) so I'm kind of interested in where it's going.. but um.. between your wiki and forums, it's kind of hard to get the 'big picture'.. 16:54:27 * glx slaps CIA-3 16:54:32 *** Bastiaan is now known as Guest544 16:54:34 <Sven_M> Basically.. what's up? :) 16:54:45 <Bjarni> Sven_M: basically.... who knows? :) 16:54:58 <Sven_M> Bjarni, Like most FOSS projects then ;) 16:55:02 *** Anters [~anskkn@91.186.26.29] has joined #openttd 16:55:04 <SmatZ> Sven_M: there is some update now and then... 16:55:17 *** anhedral is now known as dih 16:55:25 <Bjarni> we had a roadmap and assigned stuff to people and then those people left 16:55:30 <Bjarni> making the roadmap useless 16:55:32 <SmatZ> :D 16:55:40 <Sven_M> Seems to be so much going on at once.. replacing 8bpp graphics, 32bpp development and rendered graphics, etc.. 16:55:56 <dih> greetings 16:56:01 <SmatZ> hello anhedral 16:56:15 <Bjarni> dih: I did as I promised. Now it's your turn to hold up the bargain 16:56:46 <dih> ? 16:56:51 <dih> more details please? 16:56:53 <Bjarni> are you weaselling out of it? 16:57:00 <Bjarni> it would be so like you 16:57:28 <Bjarni> basically I changed the path thingie and then you said that you would write documentation on it 16:57:29 <dih> if you remind me a little more, i have a chance of remembering :-) 16:57:36 <dih> sure 16:57:38 <dih> i will 16:57:44 <Bjarni> so start writing 16:57:46 *** Anters [~anskkn@91.186.26.29] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58:01 <dih> you'll have finished docs by sat late afternoon :-) 16:58:15 <Bjarni> we need a new readme for OSX due to this so it's actually holding back 0.6.0 :s 16:58:21 <Bjarni> (not as the only thing though) 16:58:26 *** Yorick [~yorick@82-171-194-232.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:50 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm129.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 16:59:01 <Belugas> Sven_M: it's a bit hard to say what's going to happen next. 16:59:10 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip157.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:23 <Belugas> it's not very much a detailled planned way ahead project 16:59:35 <Yorick> hello 16:59:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> PBS is going to happen next! :p 16:59:41 <Yorick> what is being talked about? 16:59:54 <Bjarni> Sven_M: imagined it this way. We got a great crystal ball where we can see everything about the project 17:00:02 <Belugas> indeed, Eddi|zuHause3, as soon as you finish coding it ;) 17:00:03 <Bjarni> except it's only working backwards in time 17:00:05 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-182-199.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:06 <Bjarni> and it's called svn 17:00:13 <SmatZ> :) 17:00:14 <Sven_M> Bjarni, haha 17:00:26 <Yorick> huh? 17:00:44 <Bjarni> Yorick: future plans for OpenTTD 17:00:56 <Bjarni> the big picture on a long time scale 17:01:00 <Yorick> tellmemore 17:01:14 <Bjarni> [17:55:25] <Bjarni> we had a roadmap and assigned stuff to people and then those people left 17:01:14 <Bjarni> [17:55:29] <Bjarni> making the roadmap useless 17:01:19 <Bjarni> that's basically what there is to say about it 17:01:33 <Yorick> truelight :( 17:01:51 <Bjarni> actually I was thinking about other people 17:01:55 <Bjarni> but yes him too 17:02:19 <Bjarni> looks like I'm going to be unique 17:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> you don't exactly have any means to keep people here against their will 17:02:40 <Bjarni> became a developer really early and sticking to it 17:02:47 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 17:02:58 <Belugas> gran'pa Bjarni 17:03:13 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: yeah... some people get really upset when I use mind control so I stopped 17:03:14 * orudge` has been here since the beginning, and has remained consistantly vaguely-semi-active-ish :p 17:03:27 <Belugas> gran'pa orudge 17:03:29 <Bjarni> orudge: right 17:03:34 <Bjarni> however 17:03:40 <Bjarni> I make more commits than you 17:03:43 <Bjarni> :P 17:03:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's called "idling" ;) 17:03:45 <orudge`> yes 17:03:49 <Belugas> more bugs too! 17:03:54 <Belugas> muwhahahaaa 17:03:59 <orudge`> Eddi|zuHause3: well, I make the odd commit now and then 17:04:05 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:04:05 <orudge`> indeed, I should upload my new sound engine to flyspray 17:04:07 <Bjarni> everybody notice what I commit 17:04:09 <orudge`> shall have to do that when back in the UK 17:04:20 <orudge`> I could just outright commit it, but other devs may not appreciate that ;) 17:04:29 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Remember that orudge` has a universe to run 17:04:47 *** LA[lord] [~LAlord]@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:04:47 <Bjarni> me too 17:05:27 <Bjarni> bbl there is a woman calling for me 17:06:01 <Belugas> your mom? ;) 17:06:06 <Belugas> sorry...could not resist :D 17:06:08 <SmatZ> women and girlfriends (men and boyfriends) - the most delaying thing for OTTD developers :-p 17:06:11 <SmatZ> and work 17:06:14 <SmatZ> or school 17:06:21 <Belugas> and kids! 17:06:34 <Belugas> and kitty :S 17:06:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> and days! ;) 17:06:39 <SmatZ> :) 17:06:48 <Belugas> and lack of sleep 17:06:49 <Sacro> SmatZ: do you often get delayed by boyfreinds? 17:06:57 <SmatZ> sleeping is boring too 17:07:06 <Belugas> and lack of a c++ compiler at work :P 17:07:09 <SmatZ> Sacro: no... maybe with friends, but not too often 17:07:11 <SmatZ> :-) 17:10:13 *** Osai^Kendo is now known as Osai^Kendo`off 17:12:25 <Sven_M> So, is there like a fork planned for the 32bpp stuff, or? Seems to me that at some point, you've got to break compatibility with the original game..? 17:12:41 <Sven_M> Regarding .grf files and such. 17:12:56 <Yorick> someone is making zoom for it 17:13:17 <Belugas> 32bpp is already in trunk 17:13:22 <Belugas> and on betas too 17:13:44 <Belugas> and a fork would be out of the question, even if it ws not in 17:13:55 <Belugas> a branch, maybe, but not a fork :) 17:14:44 <Sacro> what about a spoon? 17:15:00 * Sacro spoons with Bjarni 17:15:29 <Sven_M> I see.. well, not quite. 17:15:46 <SmatZ> Sacro: There is no spoon 17:15:47 <Sven_M> I mean if it's already in trunk then a fork for 32bpp would be out of the question of course, but in general? 17:16:10 <Belugas> hem... i do not understand yuor question 17:16:20 <Belugas> general? 17:16:38 <SmatZ> commander 17:17:11 <peter1138> well, forks are generally not planned by the developers 17:17:24 <peter1138> i'm waiting for sirkoz and bilbo to make their own fork, though... 17:17:45 <Sven_M> peter1138, Well.. 'branch' then.. 17:17:55 <SmatZ> :) 17:18:13 <Sven_M> Belugas, Well, I guess the question was on breaking backwards-compatibility, etc.. 17:18:37 <peter1138> i'd like to say that'll never happen 17:18:39 <peter1138> but it has 17:18:42 <peter1138> so never mind :o 17:19:04 <SmatZ> peter1138: it has happened? 17:19:13 <peter1138> compulsory extra shores 17:19:31 <peter1138> it's still compatible but things change 17:19:40 <peter1138> progress :D 17:19:44 <Sven_M> Well, I guess my point is that some stuff, like the .grf files, seem too kludgy to be kept in the long run? 17:19:52 <peter1138> bwhaha 17:20:04 <Sven_M> peter1138.. hmm? :) 17:20:47 <SmatZ> I think there will never be dropped support for current newgrfs 17:21:06 <Sven_M> Okay.. 17:21:58 <SmatZ> like OTTD is able to load all TTD and OTTD 0.1.1 savegames :) 17:22:03 <Belugas> 32bpp, without or with original grf files, all are kept as user options 17:22:04 <SmatZ> not all TTDP though 17:24:37 *** NukeBuster [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:24:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, it can load them, but they don't always keep their original semantics 17:24:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> e.g. german town names 17:25:09 *** NukeBuster is now known as NukeBuster|away 17:28:05 *** Guest544 [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:30:01 *** Yorick [~yorick@82-171-194-232.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: bye!] 17:30:05 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:43 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest548 17:31:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host178-239-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:32:14 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:33:39 *** Wilberforce [ad@hoinarylup.boodydaahh.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:37:03 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489BE0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:44 *** Guest548 [~wolf01@host246-61-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:15 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 17:39:18 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 17:39:29 <Greyscale> wrong button 17:39:39 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1E0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Windows shutdown) ((~_~]"] 17:42:05 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1E0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:44:10 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:18 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CC0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> hmm... weird... the autoreplaced BR 110 (from a V 200) got a different livery than the manually built BR 110 17:45:00 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:19 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-188-108.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 17:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> hmm... it's some kind of livery override gone wrong... 17:47:48 *** ben_goodger [~ben@86.156.58.184] has joined #openttd 17:48:13 *** dih is now known as anhedral 17:50:24 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has joined #openttd 17:56:11 *** LA[lord] [~LAlord]@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 18:03:05 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:09:58 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 18:10:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:13:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r11985 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: -Feature[FS#1697, newGRF]: Implement var 8F(random bits) during callback 28 (Industry location permissibility) 18:13:28 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:42 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:59 *** TX [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has joined #openttd 18:24:25 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host37-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:24:26 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest554 18:24:26 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:25:24 *** wnight [~r00t@s01060012171a40a9.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:53 *** Guest554 [~wolf01@host178-239-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:11 *** Sven_M [~sven@dhcp187.physto.su.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32:13 *** NukeBuster|away [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:17 *** NukeBuster|away [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:57 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 18:35:06 <Draakon> hi 18:35:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:35:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:35:49 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:12 <Bjarni> <Belugas> your mom? ;) <-- you are such a mean bastard 18:37:22 <Bjarni> the fact that you were right is besides the point :P 18:38:28 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest556 18:38:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host248-181-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:40:14 <Belugas> lol 18:40:32 <Belugas> sorry, Bjarni :) it was really a joke :D 18:40:55 <Sacro> Bjarni really is a joke 18:41:46 <SmatZ> :D 18:41:55 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Then I guess I better joke with you] 18:41:56 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:42:01 <Sacro> d: 18:42:12 <Draakon> argh 18:42:18 <Draakon> my phone sucks 18:42:24 <Bjarni> really? 18:42:28 <Sacro> Draakon: so does Bjarni 18:42:33 <Sacro> like a hoover 18:42:38 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Sacro@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by Bjarni 18:42:43 <Chrill> lulz no 18:42:49 <Chrill> mah Sacro mustn't be +b 18:43:05 <Draakon> my phone does not support S60 :( 18:43:16 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*Sacro@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by Bjarni 18:43:33 <Sacro> pfffft 18:43:40 <Bjarni> Sacro: now you are in dept to Chrill 18:43:47 <Belugas> lol !! 18:43:48 <Bjarni> and who knows what he wants you to do to pay up 18:43:55 <Sacro> Bjarni: i don't think dept is what you mean 18:44:08 <Bjarni> you owe him one 18:44:13 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:13 <Sacro> debt :p 18:44:15 <Bjarni> a favour 18:44:20 <Sacro> alas poor yorick! 18:44:25 <Chrill> Sacro is in debt :D 18:44:30 <murray> like, a blowjob? 18:44:31 <Sacro> I knew him horatio, a man of infinate wisdom 18:44:32 *** reactor-- is now known as ReactoR- 18:44:35 <Chrill> No blowjobs 18:44:43 <Sacro> Chrill: not what you said last night 18:44:54 <Chrill> Bjarni, ban him again 18:44:55 <murray> maybe it wasn't good enough last night 18:44:57 <Chrill> he's better off silent 18:44:59 *** Guest556 [~wolf01@host37-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:03 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Sacro@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by Bjarni 18:45:06 <Chrill> :) 18:45:13 <Chrill> that's what he gets for not thanking me 18:45:25 <SmatZ> :D 18:45:38 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 18:46:06 <Bjarni> in this channel we walk nice to each other 18:46:11 <Bjarni> and do what we have to do 18:46:12 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:46:14 * Chrill walks nicely 18:46:20 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 18:46:36 <Bjarni> maybe Sacro wants to be able to continue to be able to do that too 18:47:15 * SmatZ enjoyed this 18:47:29 <Chrill> Bjarni, stop using so many.. words 18:47:33 <Chrill> type.. 18:47:34 <Chrill> shorter 18:47:35 <Chrill> messages 18:47:41 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*Sacro@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by peter1138 18:47:41 <Bjarni> like 18:47:43 <Bjarni> this? 18:47:45 <Chrill> yeah 18:47:46 <Chrill> sort of 18:47:50 <yorick> too 18:47:54 <yorick> short 18:48:05 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:48:08 <Sacro> :( 18:48:12 <yorick> much 18:48:12 <yorick> too 18:48:15 <yorick> short 18:48:16 <yorick> lines 18:48:20 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 18:48:24 <Bjarni> why? 18:48:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host248-181-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:35 <Sacro> it kills wolf01 18:48:57 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~drguildo@*] by peter1138 18:48:58 <SmatZ> there were 103 clients before wolf01 left 18:49:34 <Bjarni> SmatZ: that's likely the most useless info I have seen all day 18:49:38 * yorick is now using the auto-identify using SSL feature of the OFTC net :) 18:49:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-233-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:49:49 <Bjarni> and I turned on the TV when the news were supposed to start 18:50:00 <Bjarni> and it showed commercials >_< 18:50:11 <SmatZ> Bjarni: I have never seen as many people here 18:50:22 <Bjarni> I have 18:50:27 <SmatZ> I haven't 18:50:31 <Chrill> I have 18:50:33 <yorick> ooh 18:50:35 <Bjarni> it would appear so 18:50:38 <yorick> 103 User(s) 18:50:42 <murray> we all have 18:50:59 <Bjarni> we should invite some more people 18:51:07 * murray invites Guybrush 18:51:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:51:14 <Bjarni> I want to more peons in my kingdom 18:51:19 <SmatZ> bad Jeroen 18:51:47 <Chrill> I has invited someone :O 18:52:05 <Bjarni> --- someone :No such nick/channel 18:52:11 <Chrill> ..lol 18:52:15 *** Chrill is now known as Someone 18:52:23 * Someone here is gay 18:52:25 * Bjarni slaps Someone 18:52:26 * peter1138 wonders if bjarni has any ideas for a quick fs1264 fix 18:52:28 *** Someone is now known as Everyone 18:52:30 * Everyone has aids 18:52:33 * yorick instructs a pet piranha to munch on Everyone's shoulder blades 18:52:36 *** Everyone is now known as Chrill 18:52:42 * yorick finds the closest large object and gives Chrill a slap with it 18:52:46 <peter1138> (autoreplace/newgrf/dmu) 18:52:47 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcf8c.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 18:52:51 <Chrill> yorick, hands off my penis 18:53:03 <yorick> :-D 18:53:49 <SmatZ> peter1138: place replaced vehicles into new consist, then put them into old consist? 18:53:53 <Chrill> D-: 18:54:01 <murray> respect the penis 18:54:08 <yorick> (: 18:54:35 <murray> remember kids, the more bans you have on irc, the bigger your e-penis is 18:54:42 <Draakon> is there a know port for mobile phones? 18:54:50 <yorick> there is for DS 18:54:53 <Belugas> SmatZ, you mean like a pigeon system? 18:54:58 <Belugas> a temporary unit? 18:54:58 <yorick> and for PocketPC 18:55:12 <Draakon> i dont want for DS and PocketPC 18:55:16 <yorick> if someone makes a java port... 18:55:17 <Draakon> as i dont have them 18:55:27 <yorick> I have both :Y 18:56:15 <yorick> Draakon: are you going to make a java port? 18:56:16 <SmatZ> Belugas: probably - if the problem is with two DMUs in one consist, place them temporaly to different consist until the train is whole replaced 18:56:34 <Draakon> yorick: no, i dont know java and c++ 18:56:50 <yorick> learn it 18:57:03 <Belugas> what do you think of the idea,Bjarni? 18:57:30 <yorick> "If you want something to be done, do it yourself or it will never been done", Draakon 18:57:49 <Bjarni> * peter1138 wonders if bjarni has any ideas for a quick fs1264 fix <-- I have a solution to it but there is no way that I can make it in time for 0.6.0 18:58:30 <Bjarni> well... basically what SmatZ said but it's not compatible with the current approach 18:58:31 <Draakon> yorick: i am too busy and lazy to learn them 18:58:45 <Bjarni> so I will have to modify to allow for this 18:58:55 <Bjarni> which will need some coding and testing time 18:58:56 <yorick> ok, it will never be done 18:59:11 <Bjarni> I have a big plan on how to solve this 18:59:14 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:59:17 <Bjarni> started on it 18:59:19 <Draakon> yorick: it will be done 18:59:29 <peter1138> hmm 18:59:36 <peter1138> your big plans worry me :o 18:59:40 <Bjarni> then some commits made while I worked on it broke my working copy 18:59:44 <yorick> I don't believe ANYone is willing to make a java port 18:59:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:59:57 <Bjarni> yorick: you want to get kicked? 19:00:01 <Draakon> yorick: its your opinion 19:00:03 <Bjarni> you mentioned the J word >_< 19:00:06 <SmatZ> :) 19:00:07 <Draakon> but it will be done 19:00:14 <Draakon> may it be year 3000 19:00:38 <Belugas> [14:04] <@Bjarni> then some commits made while I worked on it broke my working copy <--- you jusst don't know how many commits broke my newgrindustry repo ;) 19:00:52 <Bjarni> no 19:00:57 <yorick> draakon asked if there was any ports for mobile phone 19:01:03 <peter1138> there are 19:01:07 <Belugas> [14:04] <yorick> I don't believe ANYone is willing to make a java port <--- interested would be more accurate 19:01:13 <Bjarni> but I guess that nobody removed the file you worked in 19:01:21 <SmatZ> yorick: yeah, yesterday I just saw some upgraded symbian patch on tt-forums 19:01:40 <Belugas> agreed Bjarni. but that is just a split :) 19:01:46 <Belugas> easy to trace ;) 19:01:51 <Draakon> my phone does not support symbian, so thats why i asked what i asked 19:01:55 <Bjarni> I know 19:01:58 <peter1138> not if you don't keep diffs of your changes 19:02:02 <peter1138> and it deletes them all :) 19:02:12 <Bjarni> so when 0.6.0 is done I will reuse most of my code on an updated trunk 19:02:36 <Draakon> is there any way to get symbian on W550i? 19:03:10 <Bjarni> basically I didn't dare to update the working copy to the revision that deletes the file 19:03:17 <SmatZ> I would like to have OTTD on my ME45, too ;-) 19:03:24 <Bjarni> I will move the whole thing into a different checkout instead 19:03:35 <Draakon> traintycoon.net is only know phone port(java) but its not free 19:04:10 <Bjarni> Draakon: it's not OpenTTD either 19:04:31 <Draakon> it is similar to TTD 19:04:41 <peter1138> you'll have to buy an S60 phone 19:04:48 <Draakon> hmm 19:04:59 <peter1138> the reason it runs on them is that they have enough power 19:05:18 <Draakon> error, cant buy S60 phone... not enough money 19:05:27 <Bjarni> I don't plan on playing on any handheld device... too small screen 19:05:45 <Bjarni> Draakon: cheat menu->click on the money button 19:05:56 <Draakon> is there such thing in real life? 19:06:01 <Bjarni> yeah 19:06:05 <SmatZ> yeah 19:06:08 <yorick> its called "working" 19:06:14 <Draakon> erm 19:06:21 <Draakon> working isnt cheating 19:06:24 <peter1138> Bjarni, my phone/pda has a 640x480 display 19:06:24 <Draakon> :P 19:06:32 <Bjarni> but the tax guys will remember it for all eternity 19:06:35 <peter1138> shame it run windows mobile 5 and is shit 19:06:42 <Bjarni> peter1138: windows.... 19:06:49 <yorick> you can cheat at working 19:07:19 <SmatZ> Draakon: start a company borrow a lot of money, then sell the company to some dumb people... happened here a lot of time 19:07:20 <Bjarni> you can show up and get a stamp for showing up and then you can leave and show up later to get a timestamp for leaving 19:07:30 <Bjarni> and the system will tell that you were present all day 19:07:34 <SmatZ> (sadly, most of those dumb people were later found dead or not found at all) 19:07:45 <Bjarni> however I don't think this strategy works on a daily basis 19:07:53 <SmatZ> *many times 19:07:59 <Draakon> SmatZ: how it is possible for under 18 year people? 19:08:15 <Bjarni> Draakon: you are making this complicated 19:08:21 <Draakon> no 19:08:31 <Draakon> ah NVM! 19:08:32 <Bjarni> yes 19:11:48 <yorick> go make websites 19:11:52 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Have a nice weekend!] 19:12:18 * Belugas forgot he has earphones 19:12:18 <Draakon> who? 19:12:28 <Belugas> good defense against colleagues 19:13:38 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 19:14:10 *** Draakon is now known as DraakonAFK 19:14:26 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: An M24x150 bolt is an even better defence 19:14:54 <Gonozal_VIII> 3^3 ~ 33 19:14:55 <Belugas> messy.. 19:15:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm back :-) 19:15:18 <Belugas> best defense ever : /ignore 19:15:20 <Gonozal_VIII> be happy 19:15:51 *** DraakonAFK is now known as Draakon 19:16:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> attack is the best defense :p 19:16:25 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: Unfortunately that feature hasn't been ported from irc to irl yet. 19:16:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> annoy collegues yourself :p 19:16:45 <peter1138> /ignore *!colleages@belugas.workplace.com 19:16:51 <SmatZ> :) 19:16:55 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: No, attack is the second-best defence. 19:17:07 <Prof_Frink> "Attack with a flamethrower" is the best. 19:17:12 <peter1138> boot to the head! 19:17:37 <blathijs> Tai Kwon Leap ftw! 19:17:49 <SmatZ> :D 19:17:53 <Gonozal_VIII> 6 dimensional force fields are best :-) 19:20:24 <Gonozal_VIII> not like those old crappy 5 dimensional ones, those could be blown up with only several hundred gigatonne bombs 19:20:44 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 19:20:52 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: Or just send them back in time to live out their life there. 19:21:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-155-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:21:18 <Gonozal_VIII> and let them kill your grandparents? :O 19:21:40 <Gonozal_VIII> that would destroy the universe! 19:21:52 <Prof_Frink> send them back in time... and to Australia. 19:22:05 <Gonozal_VIII> oh... australia is ok i guess 19:22:12 <Gonozal_VIII> never had any influence anywhere 19:23:06 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 19:23:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> australia, the land of the convicted criminals and annoying collegues 19:23:45 * Belugas though that was canada :S 19:23:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:24:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:24:58 * planetmaker thinks it's a shame give criminals such nice countries ;) 19:25:26 <planetmaker> g' day by the way :) 19:25:41 * Prof_Frink thinks it's a shame The French have such a nice country 19:26:15 <Gonozal_VIII> and can't even see it with their noses up in the sky 19:26:20 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 19:26:21 <Belugas> Prof_Frink is not friendly... 19:26:36 <Belugas> nor Gonozal_VIII... 19:26:59 * Prof_Frink thinks it's a shame we gave away such nice countries ;) 19:27:28 <SmatZ> hmm... reading news ... one man almost killed another because of new sofa 19:27:46 * planetmaker thinks the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence... :D 19:28:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> canada is great, they invented little mosque on the prairie ;) 19:28:08 <Prof_Frink> liz@buckspal:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/empire restart 19:28:53 <planetmaker> sudo /etc/init.d/history restart --no-war --no-envy 19:29:05 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host30-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:29:06 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest558 19:29:06 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 19:29:34 <Prof_Frink> User planetmaker is not in sudoers. This has been logged. 19:30:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host30-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 19:31:09 <planetmaker> cat /var/log/messages | grep 'Prof_Fink' 19:31:28 <SmatZ> users do not have access to /var/log/messages 19:31:56 * Sacro hands planetmaker an award for "Pointless use of cat" 19:32:08 <SmatZ> :) 19:32:13 <planetmaker> :P 19:32:23 <Gonozal_VIII> i like cats :-) 19:32:33 <SmatZ> dog /var/log/users/Prof_Frink 19:32:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's you!! 19:32:41 <Andel> I couldn't eat a whole cat though 19:32:43 <planetmaker> that's why nothing followed the cat :) 19:32:48 <SmatZ> lol @ Andel 19:34:05 <Gonozal_VIII> all your cat are belong to us :-) 19:34:22 <Prof_Frink> What you say? 19:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> took you long enough! 19:34:57 <Gonozal_VIII> was afk taking the dishes to the sink :P 19:35:16 <Andel> we used no dishes tonight 19:35:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> sink? we modern people in germany have dishwashers 19:35:21 <Andel> for we had pizza 19:35:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i did! 19:35:22 *** Guest558 [~wolf01@host148-233-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:27 <Andel> and i'm still in bed ill 19:35:36 <Gonozal_VIII> dishwasher is broken :-( 19:35:52 <Andel> we might get a dishwasher when we move 19:35:53 <Andel> :) 19:35:56 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 19:36:17 <planetmaker> sudo cat /var/log/messages | grep 'empire' 19:36:39 <planetmaker> crashdump[3613]: empire crashed 19:36:42 <Gonozal_VIII> and it's one of those strange small 45cm ones, can't even replace it with a normal 60cm 19:37:19 <planetmaker> s/3613/1945/ 19:39:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:47 <fjb> Hi 19:39:59 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 19:40:05 <yorick> hi 19:40:59 <fjb> I'm having a kind of a problem with transfer oders. 19:41:48 <Gonozal_VIII> they don't work both ways :-) 19:42:42 <fjb> A train takes lumber from a sawmill to the next town. It waits at the sawmill with full load order and unloads the luber with transfer order. 19:42:53 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: That is sad, but I know it. 19:43:02 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:29 <Gonozal_VIII> fine so far, but? 19:43:38 <fjb> At that station arer some trucks waitnig with full load order. The trucks carry the lumber to a factory at the other end of the town. 19:44:00 <fjb> Most of the time the trucks have negative income. 19:44:23 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, normal 19:45:06 <Gonozal_VIII> you get the yellow partial payment plus the difference from that to payment from source to target 19:45:17 <Gonozal_VIII> if it was slow, the difference is negative 19:45:22 <fjb> Does that mean the whole line has less income than the factory pais for the lumber? 19:45:43 <Gonozal_VIII> the line has less income than the yellow numbers 19:47:09 <fjb> Hm, it makes income, but the trucks are too slow, so the factory pais less than was expected? 19:47:19 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 19:48:16 <Gonozal_VIII> too slow or cargo is waiting too long or it's not the same direction 19:48:31 <fjb> Ok, but now comes the strange things. The negative income of the trucks is very different, -200 to - 2000, even some truck make an income of +1000. 19:49:02 <Gonozal_VIII> that's because of different waiting time at the transfer station 19:50:06 <fjb> So the first truck is fast enough and has income, the next truck already takes too much time to load it? 19:50:26 <Gonozal_VIII> don't know how the cargo gets picked up... if it's first in last out, it could generate strange results 19:52:11 <Gonozal_VIII> with transfers it's best to sync the vehicles with capacity and travel time in a way that the cargo in transfer gets picked up right after it got dropped off 19:52:39 <fjb> All trucks are waiting for the train at the station. It is a drive through station. So the first truck waiting there gets loaded first. the second truck gets loaded while the first is already on it's wai to the factory. 19:53:02 <Gonozal_VIII> add some more loading bays :-) 19:53:21 <Gonozal_VIII> and let it enter the drive through from both sides 19:53:52 <fjb> Good idea if it wouldn't be in the town, surounded by big houses. 19:54:23 <Gonozal_VIII> you can build some in a row, the first vehicle will stop at the last possibility 19:55:36 <fjb> I know, but the street has to be long enough for more than one loading bay. 19:55:59 <Gonozal_VIII> not a very good road layout then^^ 19:56:56 <fjb> Layout on top of a mountain? you are kidding... 19:57:30 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcf8c.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:20 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:59:21 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:33 <fjb> Hm, the trucks making the income are not the first loaded, they are the last loaded who reach the factory last. 20:05:04 <Gonozal_VIII> that's strange 20:05:16 <fjb> Yes, very starnge. 20:06:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 20:11:24 <murray> indeed starnge 20:13:02 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcf8c.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 20:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> starnge, really 20:14:03 <murray> it's almost so starnge it couldn't be starnger 20:20:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:50 <murray> lol, we actually *mocked* him out of the channel 20:27:15 <Gonozal_VIII> evil 20:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> evil, really 20:29:34 <Sacro> !seen SmatZ 20:29:50 <Sacro> @seen SmatZ 20:29:50 <DorpsGek> Sacro: SmatZ was last seen in #openttd 57 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <SmatZ> lol @ Andel 20:30:02 <orudge`> !seen Sacro 20:30:11 <orudge`> orudge: Nobody has seen or cares about Sacro. 20:30:15 <orudge`> whoops 20:30:17 <orudge`> messed thatu p 20:30:19 <orudge`> oh, never mind 20:30:28 <Prof_Frink> !setfireto Sacro 20:30:29 * orudge` throws fluffy pies at #openttd 20:30:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> i told that people would expect the bot to react on ! but someone wouldn't listen 20:30:45 <Sacro> @password 20:30:45 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. 20:30:48 <Sacro> mwahahaha 20:30:51 <Sacro> !password 20:30:55 <Sacro> oh foo :( 20:31:00 <Gonozal_VIII> no kick? :-( 20:31:16 <Sacro> nope... 20:31:18 <Sacro> that sucks 20:41:48 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcf8c.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:22 <yorick> !password 20:44:39 <yorick> I saw someone being kicked yesterda 20:44:40 <yorick> y 20:44:43 <yorick> but well 20:44:46 <yorick> I have to go 20:44:47 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fce5d.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 20:44:48 <yorick> bye! 20:45:04 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: "Goodbye!"] 20:46:56 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 20:51:58 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fce5d.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 20:57:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> feature request: make autosave if the game has been paused for X minutes# 20:58:17 <Gonozal_VIII> or have autosave interval in minutes instead of month 20:58:21 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 20:58:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, that's not necessary 20:59:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> because then you have to skip autosaves if you saved already in the same "pause-interval" 20:59:37 <Gonozal_VIII> wouldn't be too hard i guess 21:03:07 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause3, what is the reason of that request? 21:04:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> i often have the game paused for hours or even days, sometimes i forget to save, and sometimes something crashes, so i have to recover from a "really old" savegame 21:04:16 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: No, it's "Please state the nature of the openttd emergency" 21:04:20 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 21:04:26 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 21:04:49 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 21:05:44 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause3, so wait x minutes after pause set and on network, then, save then nothing. 21:05:51 <Belugas> that's the request? 21:06:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> i said nothing about network 21:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> but yes, something like that 21:07:01 <Belugas> game paused for days looks like PM game to me 21:07:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v Prof_Frink] by Belugas 21:07:19 *** mode/#openttd [-v Prof_Frink] by Belugas 21:07:40 <Belugas> o_O 21:08:18 <Prof_Frink> How vocal. 21:10:18 <Belugas> sounds like a request for lazyness to me :( 21:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, sorry if i misunderstood the feature of "autosave" as "laziness to save regularly" instead of "safety measure against unforseen interruption of gameplay" 21:15:56 <Belugas> not exactly the same thing 21:16:20 <Belugas> or, you did not expressed a good enough reason to see if it can be easily done 21:16:38 <Belugas> i've not touched that part of the code yet. 21:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't know about good or not good reasons, i occasionally pause the game, minimise, and do something completely different while the game just sits there 21:18:38 <Gonozal_VIII> btw i noticed today that fast forward is much, much faster when minimised 21:19:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is to be expected when "fast forward" means "use all processor cycles you can get" and "minimised" means "save the processor cycles for drawing" 21:20:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's an often noticed phenomenon when programs have lots of console output, they finish much faster if the console is not visible 21:22:42 <Gonozal_VIII> like the pot of water that boils much faster when you're not watching it :-) 21:27:08 <UnderBuilder> one question... is legal to create a grf that modifies parameters of another one? 21:27:25 <Belugas> or falling trees that do not make a sound whenever you're not in the forest 21:27:49 <Gonozal_VIII> there are some grfs that do that... but i guess you should ask 21:28:00 <peter1138> UnderBuilder, absolutely 21:28:34 <peter1138> you're setting properties of the game, not of the grf that was loaded before it 21:29:19 <Gonozal_VIII> ah, right 21:29:27 <UnderBuilder> for example, increasing the speed of a locomotive of UKRS 21:29:42 <Gonozal_VIII> can't change the grf directly 21:29:53 <Gonozal_VIII> only overwrite the speed for the engineid 21:30:12 <Gonozal_VIII> so you don't change the grf :-) 21:30:33 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489BE0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:46:54 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:46:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:07 *** Immow [~MIYU@c51475ec4.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:47:14 <Immow> hello 21:47:45 <SmatZ> hello Immow 21:48:00 <Immow> i'm thinking about making some 32 bit graphics 21:48:14 <Immow> but the software that I use is solidworks 21:48:46 <Immow> so i'm here for some info 21:59:14 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 21:59:57 <SmatZ> I can't help, sorry 22:04:37 <Immow> i'l just model something basic 22:04:42 <Immow> and post on forum then :) 22:04:50 <Immow> should only take 30 min :P 22:05:27 <Gonozal_VIII> something basic like a cube 22:05:31 *** arfonzo [~art@wrudm.poorcoding.com] has joined #openttd 22:05:46 <Gonozal_VIII> cubes are fun 22:06:09 <Gonozal_VIII> unless you're inside one of them and get sprayed with acid... 22:06:17 <arfonzo> Hi all, is it possible to change the debug level for network messages from the console? 22:06:18 <HMage> ÑÐŒÑÐŒ. вÑеЌ ÑпПкПйМПй МПÑО 22:06:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess that sucks 22:06:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> 6 dimensional cubes? 22:07:30 <Immow> gonna model this 22:07:30 <Immow> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/a/a3/1x1_flats_trop4.png 22:07:31 <Gonozal_VIII> well... part 1 had a 3d cube, part 2 4d, part 3 again 3d... 5 will be 5d then 3d and 6d in part 7 :-) 22:07:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> arfonzo: "debug_level <xxx>=<y>"? 22:07:55 <Gonozal_VIII> or something like that^^ 22:09:20 <arfonzo> awesome, thanks Eddi|zuHause3 22:11:05 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-251-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:29 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-251-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:12:51 *** Jortuny is now known as Jortuny-away 22:13:01 *** arfonzo [~art@wrudm.poorcoding.com] has left #openttd [] 22:13:58 *** CIA-3 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:05 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:19:37 <Gonozal_VIII> there was a bjarni? :O 22:22:41 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:22 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:23:34 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 22:26:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> there is no bjarni 22:27:34 <Gonozal_VIII> no bjarni? :'( 22:27:43 *** Chrill is now known as Bjarni 22:27:44 <Bjarni> is too 22:27:46 *** Bjarni is now known as Chrill 22:28:01 <Gonozal_VIII> fake!!!!! 22:28:08 <Chrill> :O 22:28:40 <Gonozal_VIII> burn the faker! 22:28:53 <Gonozal_VIII> burn it with fire! 22:29:12 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:29:12 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:12 *** NW|Aerandir is now known as Aerandir 22:29:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: http://www.topniveau.de/blog/archives/56 22:31:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't like blogs 22:32:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's not the original version that i learned to know... 22:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> sad, that one was much better 22:39:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> this one might be earlier (and better) http://www.brainblog.to/index.php?itemid=2229 23:12:12 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:12:14 <Sacro> wtf 23:12:16 <Sacro> where'd you all go D: 23:12:24 <Gonozal_VIII> we?^^ 23:12:30 <Sacro> !password 23:12:30 <Zahl> i'm here 23:12:30 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 23:12:39 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:12:41 <Sacro> ahhhhhh 23:12:47 <Sacro> logs show a laggy DorpsGek 23:13:00 <Sacro> it took him 17 minutes to boot me 23:13:04 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 23:13:23 <Gonozal_VIII> nice lag 23:13:38 <Sacro> ini: invalid value 'temperate' for 'landscape' 23:14:09 <Gonozal_VIII> i had that one too :-) 23:14:23 <Gonozal_VIII> don't know why or how i fixed it but i know that line 23:14:57 <Sacro> pfft 23:15:09 * Sacro looks for devs... 23:16:58 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:12 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe, nice timing 23:18:25 <Sacro> http://benwoodward.me.uk/newdesktoplinux.png 23:18:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host30-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 23:19:25 <Gonozal_VIII> so? 23:19:43 <Wolf01> hello? 23:19:49 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 23:19:55 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> 1. install gnome 23:20:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> 2. ??? 23:20:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> 3. profit 23:20:45 <Sacro> GNOME SUCKS 23:21:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> how should i know ;) 23:25:12 <Sacro> goshdarn it 23:25:18 <Sacro> where did i find that PDF t'other day 23:25:57 <glx> <Sacro> it took him 17 minutes to boot me <-- well it took me 17 minutes to notice I wasn't identified ;) 23:26:14 <Sacro> heh 23:26:43 <glx> meaning I couldn't command the bot and my script failed 23:28:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> hmm... i need to swap out 180GB somewhere to format this disk... 23:40:27 <Gonozal_VIII> upload it to some webspace :-) 23:41:29 <Gonozal_VIII> or you could partially format it, move the data there, format the other part and merge them 23:42:30 *** GT [~GT@adsl-dc-4664d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:46:56 *** GT [~GT@adsl-dc-4664d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:47:15 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:18 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: bittorrent :) 23:50:52 <Wolf01> yes, send your private data to other people and then download it again from them :D 23:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, sure, i'm gonna upload 180GB with 5kb/s :p 23:51:04 <Sacro> ""It's a patent for a mobile phone with removable storage, an internet connection, a camera and the ability to download audio or video files. " 23:51:10 <Sacro> Wolf01: compress it and encrypt it 23:51:22 <Sacro> then when several people get to 99% pull the plug ;) 23:53:56 <Wolf01> sacro, i just had a nice conversation with a friend who wanted to become really rich by selling used pants on internet ;) 23:54:29 <Sacro> Wolf01: nice idea... 23:54:35 <Wolf01> 5 minutes later he changed idea and wanted to put a webcam in his bedroom 23:54:42 <Sacro> JennyCam! 23:54:53 <Sacro> *JenniCam even 23:55:36 <Wolf01> but he remenbered that he is used to stay in his bedroom for about 2 hours at day, so he couldn't get so much attention 23:55:41 <Wolf01> *remembered 23:56:34 <Sacro> wow 23:56:40 <Sacro> this patchset makes TT music sound ace 23:58:52 <Wolf01> then he started to talk about purchasing an high school diploma because he didn't finish the school, so i took my jacket and ran away