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00:00:47 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N785P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 00:02:04 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 00:31:54 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 00:40:31 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N785P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 00:50:15 *** UFO64 [~jmurray2@brodeurmb2.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [] 01:03:15 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N785P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:03:29 <Gonozal_VIII> oh noes, no forum 01:08:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:17:57 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 01:17:57 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:01 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: 1am, search updating 01:20:18 *** maximile [~maximile@dyn-62-56-55-116.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:20:32 <Gonozal_VIII> was 2am :P 01:22:40 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3CC8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:23:48 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: 1am UTC 01:30:06 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F23F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:15 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:53 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 01:35:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B748B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74923.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:46:47 *** sgsdag [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:46:47 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest976 01:46:47 *** sgsdag is now known as Gonozal_VIII 01:52:58 *** Guest976 [~Gonozal_V@N785P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:23 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:04:05 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-106-54-226.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:05 *** Sogard^ is now known as Sogard 02:04:31 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485FF08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:54 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 02:16:22 *** UFO64 [~jmurray2@brodeurmb2.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 02:23:31 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:29 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm90.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 02:31:47 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:32:27 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 02:40:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm90.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:05 *** UFO64 [~jmurray2@brodeurmb2.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [] 02:43:32 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:47:38 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm90.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 03:02:54 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 03:06:36 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy [~chatzilla@p549EEF20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:07:16 <MarwolTuk|Lappy> Hello out there! 03:07:28 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 03:07:33 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:08:26 <Belugas> hey 03:08:54 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36127 new version :-) 03:11:11 <Gonozal_VIII> that new loan thingy is nice, had to include it 03:13:31 <Gekz> Who speaks that dodgey language known as french 03:13:48 <glx> why? 03:14:24 <Gekz> Baisez = ZHQT 03:14:28 <Gekz> what* 03:14:51 <Gonozal_VIII> i think that's some foodstuff 03:14:52 <Belugas> dodgey yourself >:( 03:15:09 <Gekz> lol :) 03:15:28 <Gekz> Babelfish is very confused as to what "fuck" is in french. If you translate it back, it says "kiss" 03:15:30 <Gonozal_VIII> or maybe not^^ 03:15:32 <Gekz> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 03:15:52 <glx> no that's right 03:16:01 <Belugas> think is, Baisez means both 03:16:02 <Gekz> o.o 03:16:07 <Gekz> that's so wrong. 03:16:08 <Gekz> lol 03:16:12 <Belugas> nope... 03:16:17 <glx> one is a verb, the other is a noun 03:16:19 <Gekz> they ruined perfectly good coarse language xD 03:16:49 <Gonozal_VIII> kiss! 03:16:54 <Belugas> french is a language fit for poetry 03:17:02 <Belugas> so, many meanings are avaialble 03:17:02 <Gekz> and only poetry. 03:17:21 *** Gekz was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [sure.. sure...] 03:17:23 <glx> with many synonyms :) 03:17:29 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-124-183-21-103.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:17:32 <Gekz> haha 03:17:41 <Gekz> assert yourself with the op hammerage :P 03:17:59 <glx> @op 03:18:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 03:18:03 <glx> wanna play? 03:18:14 <glx> @deop 03:18:16 *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek 03:18:16 <Gekz> Yes! 03:18:19 <Gekz> Oh god yes! 03:19:25 <Belugas> now... what does that "ban" stuff is for again... 03:19:27 <Belugas> mhhh... 03:19:40 <Gonozal_VIII> assert(!FrenchMocker(Gekz)); 03:19:49 <Gonozal_VIII> something like that? 03:19:54 <Belugas> hehe 03:20:35 <Belugas> Gekz, it's not really a good behaviour to make fun of any language that is not yours. 03:21:01 <Gekz> I was just joking around. 03:21:01 <Gonozal_VIII> but i can make fun of german, right? 03:21:09 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 03:21:10 <Belugas> and for your info french has been (and i suspect it is still) the language used by diplomats worldwide 03:21:19 <Gekz> ɪ know. 03:21:26 <Gekz> ɪtËs pro >_> 03:23:22 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: I r tinks i r need sleepz a lots nowie] 03:26:15 <Belugas> pro?? 03:27:16 <Gekz> Good. 03:27:18 <Gekz> Superior. 03:27:20 <Gekz> O.o 03:27:39 <Gekz> I'm learning German and French right now infact. 03:28:21 <Gonozal_VIII> german? why that? 03:28:36 <Gekz> Why not? 03:28:54 <Gonozal_VIII> not very widespread outside europe.. 03:28:57 <Belugas> ho... i see.... well.. superior, would not say. good.. depends.. but... it's mine ;) 03:29:39 <Gekz> Gonozal_VIII: 5 countries, eh? 03:29:54 <Gonozal_VIII> 5? what 5? 03:29:57 <Gekz> Austria, Germany, Switzerland, Leichtenstein and Luxembourg? 03:30:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm 03:30:38 <Gonozal_VIII> well... swiss tv has german subtitles 03:30:56 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know how they talk in luxembourg 03:31:38 <Belugas> with a mouth!! 03:31:45 <Gonozal_VIII> :O 03:31:49 <Belugas> lol 03:31:50 <Belugas> see you 03:31:54 <Belugas> have a good nght 03:31:57 <Gekz> bye 03:31:57 * Belugas goes to bed 03:32:01 <Gonozal_VIII> night 03:43:28 <Gonozal_VIII> london is burning 03:44:05 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:44:17 <Gekz> DOWN 03:44:19 <Gekz> town. 04:00:35 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F541DB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:02:34 *** sgsgasg [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 04:02:34 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest988 04:02:35 *** sgsgasg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 04:06:12 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54CD8.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:08:41 *** Guest988 [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:18:36 *** Christoph [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:25:13 *** mcbane2 [~Maui_key@p5498FCEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:26:39 *** mcbane2 [~Maui_key@p5498E31C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:37:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB65D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 05:00:39 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy_ [~chatzilla@p549EEFA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:02:52 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:07:07 *** MarwolTuk|Lappy [~chatzilla@p549EEF20.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:06 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-159-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:11:56 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-174-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:11:56 *** lobster [~IceChat7@86.89.201.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:12:00 *** lobster [~IceChat7@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 05:15:26 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 05:18:34 *** sgasgsg [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:18:35 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest996 05:18:35 *** sgasgsg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 05:21:25 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:21:25 *** Sogard^ is now known as Sogard 05:21:32 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r12097 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r654, r1525): loading old, pre savegame version 2, savegames. 05:21:57 <Gonozal_VIII> r654 O_o 05:22:29 <Gonozal_VIII> people who played with that version are still alive? 05:22:52 <glx> smatz likes to test old savegame loading :) 05:22:53 <Gonozal_VIII> aah... passed the savegames on to their grandchildren, i see 05:23:14 <glx> he creates them with old version and tries to load 05:24:12 <glx> and it's a good thing :) 05:24:36 <Gonozal_VIII> of course it's a good thing 05:24:58 *** Guest996 [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:27:14 <Gonozal_VIII> yay read all new posts in the forum now, didn't have time for that the last few days 05:28:52 <glx> they talk too much 05:29:20 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... they do 05:31:59 <glx> hmm time to sleep 05:32:01 <glx> bye 05:33:05 *** asgsgsg [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:33:05 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest998 05:33:06 *** asgsgsg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 05:35:20 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:38:08 *** Guest998 [~Gonozal_V@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:39:44 <Gekz> asgsgsg! 05:39:47 <Gekz> I know that guy! 05:44:42 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:59 <Ash_> Is there any way to change the now line height after a scenario's been made? 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10:42:38 <Gonozal_VIII> for a single changed line you sent me a 500kb patch ;-) 10:44:33 *** Guest1040 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:44:55 <yorick> Gonozal_VIII: a whole block of code is moved there ;) 10:45:36 <yorick> I can't get the def parameter... 10:46:40 <Gekz> I need a hug 10:47:48 * yorick hugs Geks 10:47:54 <yorick> Gekz* 10:48:02 <Gekz> eww, you're all sticky 10:48:22 * yorick instructs a pet piranha to munch on Gekz's shoulder blades 10:48:45 <Gekz> lol 10:49:53 <yorick> what does the def parameter at SDT_CONDVAR do? 10:51:38 *** asggsag [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:51:38 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1041 10:51:38 *** asggsag is now known as Gonozal_VIII 10:51:44 <Gekz> I know that guy! 10:52:07 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't 10:52:16 <Gekz> asggsag and I are good friends 10:54:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:35 <peter1138> Hehe, "546% of an estimated 8k tonnes" 10:56:18 <Gonozal_VIII> 8k? why did you even bother building there? 10:56:34 <yorick> because they often give 546% 10:56:35 <Gekz> he wanted that inch of coal to line his roads 10:57:48 *** Guest1041 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:49 <yorick> [11:49] <yorick> what does the def parameter at SDT_CONDVAR do? 10:58:14 <Gonozal_VIII> dig through the code and look ;-) 10:58:54 <yorick> I already did 10:59:03 <yorick> that way I found out it was called def 11:00:05 <yorick> #define SDT_CONDVAR(base, var, type, from, to, flags, guiflags, def, min, max, interval, str, proc)\ 11:00:05 <yorick> SDT_GENERAL(#var, SDT_NUMX, SL_VAR, type, flags, guiflags, base, var, 1, def, min, max, interval, NULL, str, proc, NULL, from, to) 11:00:35 *** mad_ [mad@fuckup.fhome.de] has joined #openttd 11:01:10 <peter1138> def... default... 11:01:16 <yorick> ah 11:01:23 <Gonozal_VIII> ooooh default 11:01:25 <yorick> :O 11:01:30 <peter1138> Hmm, I wonder if waypoints have been fixed yet. 11:02:13 <Gonozal_VIII> so i can set the default autosave interval to somethign else than daily^^ 11:02:53 <yorick> so I need information about interval ^^ 11:13:06 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:10 *** asgsgasg [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:13:14 *** asgsgasg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:13:48 <yorick> GOnozal_VIII: would you be interested in my selective sound enabling/disabling patch? 11:14:21 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't play with sound 11:15:23 <yorick> for your patchpack 11:15:50 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:15:54 <Gonozal_VIII> i know 11:16:01 <Gonozal_VIII> what exactly does it do? 11:16:07 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:16:14 <yorick> it adds a new patch settings tab named "sound", with some "Enable rail crossing sound", "Enable vehicle sound effects" 11:17:20 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm 11:17:40 <Gonozal_VIII> well, i can try 11:17:55 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:10 <Gonozal_VIII> one tab space is still free... 11:18:26 <yorick> even more... 11:18:34 <Gonozal_VIII> not without a third row 11:18:40 <yorick> hmm...the MultiString isn't working 11:19:45 * yorick forgot {ORANGE}{STRING1} 11:21:10 <Gekz> I've had enough of people being too busy to talk to me 11:21:43 *** sfsgsgsgs [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:21:43 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1042 11:21:43 *** sfsgsgsgs is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:22:47 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 11:27:05 <yorick> does realistic acceleration take more CPU? 11:27:56 *** Guest1042 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:50 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3EB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:35:28 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12098 /trunk/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp rail_map.h): -Fix: make snow appear on rail tiles dependant on track height, not on height of the lowest part of the tile 11:35:34 <yorick> brb 11:38:56 <yorick> back 11:39:12 *** sasgdahdha [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:39:12 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1043 11:39:12 *** sasgdahdha is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:39:32 <blathijs> yorick: Not significantly more I think 11:42:06 *** Guest1043 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:12 <yorick> thanks 11:42:39 <yorick> now I have to make something that converts the original patch settings to the new system 11:43:44 <blathijs> yorick: You're rewriting the patch settings? Or reordering them anyway? 11:45:16 <yorick> I'm rewriting the pathfinder settings 11:45:19 <yorick> brb 11:46:54 *** yorP [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:47:28 *** yorick is now known as Guest1044 11:47:29 *** yorP is now known as Yorick 11:47:40 <Yorick> back 11:48:42 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54970285.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:48:49 <Roujin> g'day 11:48:54 <Yorick> hello 11:50:08 <Roujin> anyone besides me noticed the warning gcc gives when compiling aircraft_cmd.cpp? 11:50:31 <Roujin> d:/dev/ottd/wip/trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp:433: warning: 'w' might be used uninitialized in this function 11:50:41 *** dgahdhehd [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:50:42 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1046 11:50:42 *** dgahdhehd is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:50:55 <Yorick> nope 11:50:59 <Yorick> no problem for me 11:51:18 <Yorick> and compiling with gcc 11:51:24 <Roujin> it's only a warning and looking at the code there i don't even know why it would warn oO 11:51:44 <Roujin> compiles for me too, just a warning... 11:51:59 <Roujin> well doesn't matter too much, just wanted to throw it in 11:52:34 <Roujin> Gonozal: hey, nice effort on your patch pack :) 11:52:47 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a warning about 'best' might be uninitialised in the vehicle speed patch in my merge thingy... but nothing in aircraft cmd 11:53:23 *** Guest1044 [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:57 <Roujin> oh that warning in aircraft_cmd comes with a clean trunk checkout 11:54:12 <Roujin> maybe it's got to do with gcc version or something 11:54:12 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 11:54:27 <Gonozal_VIII> then it must be from 12097, didn't get it with 96 11:55:03 <Roujin> nah, it's not new 11:55:24 <Roujin> noticed it first a few days ago or something 11:55:52 <Roujin> gcc -v outputs: gcc version 3.4.5 (mingw special) 11:56:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i compiled a lot... A LOT the last few days... never saw a warning like that in aircraft cmd 11:56:37 <Roujin> well then i guess you have another gcc version than me where it doesn't happen.. 11:57:07 *** Guest1046 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:54 <Yorick> I have 3.4.2 (mingw special) ^^ 11:58:01 <Gonozal_VIII> well yes.. but uninitialized status of a var should be the same on every compiler, right? 11:59:05 *** globester [H@cc363166-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:35 <Roujin> maybe some differences regarding scope? 11:59:56 <Yorick> static const Depot* FindClosestShipDepot(const Vehicle* v) does not have any checks for YAPF 11:59:58 <Roujin> or, maybe stricter warning criteria than in older version 12:00:36 <Roujin> (the latter being more likely imho) 12:00:51 <Tron> Gonozal_VIII: no, some GCC versions have errors in this respect 12:01:28 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12099 /trunk/docs/landscape.html: -Documentation: add new RailGroundType to landscape.html 12:01:54 <Tron> int x; if (y) x = 23; f(x); does not cause a warning on some versions 12:01:59 <Tron> mind that 23 must be a constant for the warning not to be triggered 12:02:29 <Tron> what GCC effectively does is optimising the code to int x; x = 23; f(x); and only after that it checks for uninitialised uses 12:03:07 <Roujin> well i don't really want to think about it harder - just wanted to inform people that for my compiler current trunk gives a warning 12:03:29 <Roujin> thought devs might be interested in such information 12:03:31 <Roujin> ;) 12:03:40 <Tron> the exact warning message is? 12:03:58 <Roujin> [SRC] Compiling aircraft_cmd.cpp 12:03:58 <Roujin> d:/dev/ottd/wip/trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: In function `CommandCost CmdBuildAircraft(TileIndex, uint32, uint32, uint32)': 12:03:58 <Roujin> d:/dev/ottd/wip/trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp:433: warning: 'w' might be used uninitialized in this function 12:04:09 <Yorick> I think they must be interesed in the fact yapf won't even work for ships when you press the go to depot button ^^ 12:04:47 <Roujin> oh i lied about "current" - it's 12092 actually 12:04:48 <Tron> uh? the variable is initialised at its declaration 12:05:03 <Roujin> any changes to aircraft_cmd since 12092? 12:05:12 <Tron> no 12:07:08 <Roujin> ok i just tried to compile a clean r12099, it's the same 12:07:18 <Tron> Vehicle *w = vl[2]; 12:07:30 *** aasgdg [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:07:31 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1048 12:07:31 *** aasgdg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 12:07:47 <Tron> it's pretty hard to for the variable to be not initialised 12:08:32 <Roujin> well as i said i also looked at the code and have no clue why it should warn, but it does warn 12:08:39 <Roujin> i'm not making this up you know... 12:08:52 <Tron> which compiler? 12:09:12 <Roujin> [12:55] <Roujin> gcc -v outputs: gcc version 3.4.5 (mingw special) 12:10:03 <Tron> Aircraft() { this->type = VEH_AIRCRAFT; } 12:10:08 <Tron> somebody has a this->fetish 12:12:45 <Tron> GetPlayer(this->owner)->num_engines[this->engine_type]--; 12:12:45 <Tron> if (this->owner == _local_player) InvalidateAutoreplaceWindow(this->engine_type, this->group_id); 12:12:45 <Tron> if (IsValidGroupID(this->group_id)) GetGroup(this->group_id)->num_engines[this->engine_type]--; 12:12:45 <Tron> if (this->IsPrimaryVehicle()) DecreaseGroupNumVehicle(this->group_id); 12:12:46 <Tron> ... 12:13:22 *** Guest1048 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:13:37 <Tron> if (this->type != VEH_TRAIN || (this->type == VEH_TRAIN && (IsFrontEngine(this) || IsFreeWagon(this)))) { 12:13:41 <SmatZ> "this->" replaced "v->" everywhere where OOP came into play 12:14:01 <SmatZ> I think it is better readable - at least for me, I am really unused to OOP 12:14:04 <Tron> if it's not a train of if it is one, but let's recheck, it might have reconsidered ... 12:14:27 *** globester [H@cc363166-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 12:14:34 <Tron> SmatZ: "" replaced "v->" everywhere where OOP came into play 12:15:00 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:15:10 <SmatZ> Tron: I see only "this->" everywhere 12:15:19 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, lots of this 12:16:35 <Tron> horrible 12:18:01 <Tron> for (Vehicle *v = this->next; v != NULL; v = v->Next()) { 12:18:03 <Tron> inconsistent 12:18:44 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 12:19:00 <Gonozal_VIII> the direct access to next and next function? 12:19:27 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:39 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:21:21 <Yorick> how are my chances of being trunked if I make a patch that rewrites the pathfinding selection patches? 12:24:13 <blathijs> "being trunked", didn't hear that one before :-) 12:24:29 * hylje trunks Yorick 12:24:39 <Prof_Frink> Yorick: Pretty low if you replace it with a random number generator 12:25:12 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:25:44 <SmatZ> :-D hylje 12:25:58 <Tron> (const Vehicle***)engine_list <--- real three star programmers don't 12:27:11 <hylje> what about five 12:29:36 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:38 <Prof_Frink> Of course, you can't get four-star programmers any more 12:31:50 <Prof_Frink> they're all unleaded 12:33:47 <Tron> why does VehicleFromPos() return a void* which gets casted all the time? 12:34:53 <Yorick> would it be possible to modify a widge after it's been created? 12:35:15 <Roujin> in what terms, yorick? 12:35:18 <Yorick> widget* 12:35:30 <Yorick> I want to disable a patch setting(grey out) 12:36:02 <Roujin> yes.. eg copypaste patch does that with its buttons 12:36:30 <Roujin> disable button x if situation y applies 12:36:41 <Maedhros> Yorick: DisableWindowWidget (or something along those lines) 12:36:51 <Yorick> for patch options? 12:37:06 <Maedhros> oh yeah, they're not actually widgets 12:37:09 <Maedhros> i'd forgotten that 12:37:18 <Roujin> but isn't that already done for something? 12:37:21 <Roujin> lemme check 12:38:45 <Roujin> hm i was wrong 12:39:19 <Yorick> I want to grey out the disable 90-degree turns when NTP is enabled for trains 12:41:17 <Maedhros> i can't see an easy way to do it 12:42:56 *** azzaleon [filip@193.47.75.76] has joined #openttd 12:43:42 *** azzaleon [filip@193.47.75.76] has left #openttd [] 12:44:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> some patch settings get disabled in multiplayer 12:45:28 <SmatZ> it is done by patch entry flags 12:45:42 <SmatZ> making a more complex check would need deeper changes 12:46:10 <SmatZ> or add a new flag "disabled", that will be updated ... 12:48:11 <Maedhros> i suppose one way of doing it would be to replace the flags with a pointer to a bool function that returns whether the setting should be enabled or not 12:51:50 <SmatZ> maybe add that pointer as another parameter, these flags are universal for most settings 12:52:15 <Yorick> I think updating http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=613485#p613485 wouldn't be so bad 12:52:46 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:53:25 <SmatZ> Yorick: not long ago, I updated it to current revision (I am not author of the patch) http://88.146.45.107/ttd/routeplanner_r11918.patch 12:53:33 <Yorick> :O 12:53:33 <Roujin> hmm if i add another entry to _misc_settings[] in settings.cpp, would i need to increase the savegame version? 12:53:41 <Yorick> depends 12:53:47 <Yorick> if you want to save it... 12:53:58 <Yorick> what flags are you giving it? 12:54:09 <Maedhros> s/want/need/ in most cases 12:54:17 <Roujin> SDTG_VAR("transparency_locks", SLE_UINT8, S, 0, _transparency_lock, 0, 0,0xFF,0, STR_NULL, NULL), 12:54:38 <Yorick> SmatZ: I'm talking about the regional YAPF for ships he made in the last post 12:55:03 <Yorick> nope, Roujin 12:55:14 <Yorick> the S flag means it isn't gonna be saved in the savegame 12:55:26 <Yorick> "S = Do not save in save game (but save in openttd.cfg). Also does not sync with network. (Each player can set their own)" 12:55:37 <Roujin> ah, that makes sense 12:55:42 <Roujin> thanks 12:56:08 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:56:53 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:16 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:17 <Yorick> ok, my patch that reworks the pathfinder settings: http://paste.openttd.org/540 13:07:05 <SmatZ> Yorick: not talking about coding style, I like that idea 13:07:17 <SmatZ> use tabs for indenting from left 13:07:36 <SmatZ> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Coding_style 13:07:41 <Yorick> I did... 13:07:55 <Yorick> but it seems to convert them automatically 13:09:31 <Yorick> hmm...I like that program 13:09:42 <SmatZ> tabs are used only to indent from left, anywhere else 13:09:54 <Yorick> it can automatically reindent C++ 13:12:01 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:12:44 <Tron> "Some people like to introduce copies of variables to increase readability, which can waste memory. However, in some cases, especially in code pieces which are often called, it makes sense to cache some calculated variables." 13:12:51 <Tron> would somebody remove that nonsense? 13:12:57 <Yorick> why? 13:13:04 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:13:07 <Tron> because it is nonsense 13:13:20 <Yorick> it increases readablity, btw, its a wiki, everyone can edit it 13:15:01 <Yorick> some people require me to indent with spaces instead of tabs 13:15:14 <Tron> loop invariant code motion will ensure that both presented variants in the example result in the same code. the "waste memory" and "cache" pseudo-arguments are simply wrong 13:18:29 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:36 <SmatZ> Tron: gcc2.95 is used for morphos. Does it detect computed loop invariant value? And when the cached value is from a linked function, and other functions are called in the loop? Then caching the value would be dangerous and compiler cannot do that because both functions are black boxes for the compiler. 13:23:27 <Tron> gcc 2.95 is plain obsolete (even has several bugs in its C++ part). further at the very least the justifications given are extremely oversimplified. 13:25:06 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-159-133.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:25:39 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.65] has joined #openttd 13:27:12 <Roujin> My transparency lock patch i mentioned yesterday is done: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1758 13:27:58 <Roujin> unfortunately I forgot to select "patch" in flyspray so now it's listed as a bug report. Can someone change it please? 13:28:07 <Maedhros> Roujin: minor point - you should use HasBit(var, x) instead of GB(var, x, 1) 13:28:29 <Yorick> SmatZ: anything wrong with my coding style except the leading spaces? 13:29:00 <Roujin> hmm, you certainly have a point there 13:29:09 <SmatZ> Yorick: enum comment style 13:29:29 <SmatZ> Yorick: and tabs instead of spaces in the middle of line 13:33:03 <Yorick> the 2nd: where? 13:33:24 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:34:13 <Roujin> uhm, thanks for changing the category in the flyspray, but shouldn't it be in the category "patch", rather than "feature request" ? 13:35:55 <Roujin> anyways, i gotta go for now - so if there are any other points with my patch please do comment on the flyspray or forum :) bye for now 13:36:53 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 13:38:04 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54970285.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 13:40:30 <Yorick> ok, here we go again: http://paste.openttd.org/541 13:45:17 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:19 <Yorick> I think it would be nice to update and include this one: http://tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=75720 13:46:06 <Diabolic-Angel> 6666 13:46:16 <Diabolic-Angel> uhm, sry 13:47:27 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:36 <Yorick> hellosai 13:51:48 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:18 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:52:18 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 13:52:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:53:14 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:15 <Yorick> I have submitted it to the bug tracker: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1759 14:00:31 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:01:15 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12100 /trunk/src/ (openttd.cpp water_cmd.cpp): -Fix (r12042): check for water class of surrounding tiles fails for buoys at map borders 14:02:52 <SmatZ> 12100 :) 14:03:41 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 14:04:03 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:09:14 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:10:33 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:15:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:15:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:16:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12101 /trunk/src/ (openttd.cpp water_cmd.cpp): -Fix (r12100): there are void tiles at MapMaxX,Y - have to substract one to be on water border tiles 14:16:53 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 14:20:06 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:57 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:27:02 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:15 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:35:20 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489FAB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:46:08 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 14:49:56 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: maedhros * r12102 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: Allow locking individual transparency settings so they will not be changed by pressing 'x'. (Roujin) 14:51:08 <Yorick> :) 14:53:02 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:17 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:19:50 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894D.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:21:32 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:13 <Yorick> has anyone looked at my patch yet? 15:23:30 <SmatZ> yeah 15:24:33 <Yorick> now that is a descriptive answer! 15:25:01 <Yorick> I think there is a problem with loading old savegames and converting their patch settings... 15:25:12 <SmatZ> most likely 15:25:32 <SmatZ> changing the order of patch options may cause strange things 15:25:57 <Yorick> http://bugs.openttd.org/?getfile=2418 <-- screenshot :) 15:26:47 <SmatZ> it doesn't look buggy :) 15:26:58 <SmatZ> oh, you started a new game 15:27:45 <Yorick> loading old savegames isn't buggy either 15:28:00 <Yorick> but there is a problem with converting their patch settings 15:29:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> you need a section "if (CheckSavegameVersion(whatever)) { set new settings according to old settings }" 15:29:10 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54970285.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:29:24 <Roujin> hello again 15:29:41 <DJ-Nekkid> -1 * 0 03 00 01 60 01 09 A0 00 A1 00 <-- shouldnt this give me sprite A0 for steel (09) and A1 for everything else? 15:30:02 <Roujin> thanks for including my patch Maedhros :) 15:30:07 <Yorick> Eddit: if you had just looked at http://bugs.openttd.org/?getfile=2417 ;) 15:30:41 <Maedhros> Roujin: no problem :) 15:31:08 *** Audigex [~Audigex@84.13.250.66] has joined #openttd 15:31:49 <Yorick> what's the current savegame version, 86? 15:32:01 <Maedhros> yup 15:32:02 <glx> check saveload.cpp 15:33:05 <Yorick> I've modified it, glx, so I can't be sure, and when I revert it, it'll revert ALL changes I've made to it... 15:33:19 <glx> svn diff will show it 15:34:07 <Yorick> ah, its 86 :) 15:34:14 <Maedhros> anyway, you can revert files individually 15:34:39 <Yorick> I know 15:34:59 <Yorick> if (CheckSavegameVersion(87)) { should work for every savegame under 87, right? 15:35:08 <glx> yes 15:35:27 <Yorick> then I must be doing something wrong 15:35:44 <glx> and you can add your stuff in existing if (CheckSavegameVersion(87)) 15:38:01 <Yorick> I did... 15:39:27 <peter1138> CONDVARs should be used for old variables to 15:39:30 <peter1138> +o 15:39:58 <Yorick> peter1138: you have looked at it, right? 15:40:03 <peter1138> Yes 15:40:24 <peter1138> you move them 15:40:26 <peter1138> bad idea 15:40:33 <Yorick> SDT_CONDBOOL(Patches, yapf.ship_use_yapf, 28, 86, 0, 0, false, STR_NULL, NULL), ? 15:40:49 <Yorick> ah, they shouldn't be moved, you say? 15:41:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B830BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:32 <peter1138> Yes 15:41:43 <peter1138> <SmatZ> changing the order of patch options may cause strange things 15:41:43 <SmatZ> yes, they are stored in the same order in the savegame 15:41:50 <Yorick> ah :O 15:42:04 <Yorick> so new patches should be added at the end? 15:42:27 <SmatZ> no, you use SDT_COND* and it will be loaded only for given versions 15:42:58 <Yorick> that sounds logic 15:43:12 <SmatZ> I think you could use SDT_CONDNULL for old patch options... no matter it will discard PF setting from savegames 15:43:21 <SmatZ> or I don't know if others agree 15:43:36 <Yorick> you don't want to discard them, I think 15:44:05 <glx> if a setting is removed, it should be replaced with CONDNULL 15:44:27 <SmatZ> you could load it into new patch options and then convert - though a bit hacky, you won't need to have old patch options in the memory 15:44:50 <peter1138> You definitely need some conversion 15:44:59 <peter1138> Else there'll be millions of bug reports ;) 15:45:05 <Yorick> glx: yes, but I don't want to discard it... 15:45:12 <Yorick> I have the conversion in place 15:45:22 <glx> then do the conversion :) 15:45:24 <Yorick> but it loads old patch settings into memory 15:45:37 <Yorick> for savegames beneath 87 15:46:43 <Yorick> I dunno if it saves them again 15:46:55 <glx> it shouldn't 15:47:08 <glx> if you use CONDVAR 15:47:18 <Yorick> SDT_CONDBOOL(Patches, yapf.ship_use_yapf, 28, 86, 0, 0, false, STR_NULL, NULL), 15:47:32 <peter1138> yes, do what you've already done, but leave them in their original places 15:48:52 <Yorick> and it works...I think 15:49:39 <Yorick> :) 15:49:42 * glx is checking trunk for potential old savegame loading bugs 15:50:42 <Yorick> yes, go editing trunk on the files I modify, so I can update my patch every day! 15:50:46 <Yorick> :-P 15:50:59 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@2001:610:1908:8000:210:4bff:fe91:cb70] has joined #openttd 15:51:16 <glx> I'm not on settings stuff :) 15:51:21 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.ipv6.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:45 <SmatZ> Yorick: you will get used to that very soon 15:52:03 <Yorick> hehe 15:52:41 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 15:53:26 <Yorick> hello there 15:53:49 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12103 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Feature(tte): separate catenary transparency settings from building transparency settings 15:54:05 <Gonozal_VIII> Transparency Lock (in trunk r12102) <-- wow, that was fast... guess i don't have to include it in my patch then 15:54:10 <peter1138> Yeah 15:54:14 <peter1138> It's a good patch :) 15:54:27 <Roujin> thanks :) 15:54:28 <peter1138> Solves the issues with the transparent station signs'n all 15:56:00 <Gonozal_VIII> but i've already got stuff into trunk faster :P 15:56:10 <peter1138> So have I 15:56:14 <Yorick> :D 15:56:18 <SmatZ> :-) 15:56:25 <Roujin> showoff :P 15:56:32 <Yorick> he is the trunkanzier :-P 15:56:40 <Yorick> -i 15:56:45 <Gonozal_VIII> could have something to do with your commit rights peter ;-) 15:58:37 *** dgdagsaha [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 15:58:37 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1056 15:58:38 *** dgdagsaha is now known as Gonozal_VIII 15:59:00 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:07 <Gonozal_VIII> enough with the disconnecting... days of constant downloading, i pulled his cable out of the router now 15:59:18 <Roujin> i guess it has to do a lot with patch size ;) 15:59:41 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: That's too obvious. 15:59:42 <Yorick> hmm...what shall I do with old savegames that have the first pathfinder enabled, I'm using default now, but that can be changed.... 15:59:56 <Roujin> area raise/lower was also very small and was accepted very fast 15:59:57 <Prof_Frink> Take the pins out of the RJ45 and plug it back in again 16:00:04 <Gonozal_VIII> AddCCtoInnerWallsOfRoadDepots.patch <-- that one's small too 16:00:11 <SmatZ> yeah 16:01:07 <Roujin> Then it was not properly advertised to devs or they see no reason why to include it - i guess? 16:01:20 <Gonozal_VIII> middle stop patch and the autoreplace fix are also just some lines 16:01:45 *** blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 16:04:50 *** Guest1056 [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:19 <Roujin> a) find a dev with good mood and some time b) persuade him that your patch is useful c) wait for him to review it and if it's all well, include it. 16:06:45 <Prof_Frink> d) buy said dev beer 16:07:25 <Gonozal_VIII> d doesn't work with bjarni 16:07:48 <Prof_Frink> Well, in the case of bjarni, you just offer sexual favours 16:08:06 <Gonozal_VIII> no... no i really don't 16:08:57 <Yorick> I've updated my patch :) 16:09:55 <Yorick> tested with old savegame and working 16:11:13 <Gonozal_VIII> wherewhathuh :S 16:11:25 <Yorick> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1759 16:12:21 <Gonozal_VIII> ah.. didn't notice that through all those disconnects^^ 16:12:24 <Roujin> gonozal: hungry for new patches to include in your pack huh? :D 16:12:56 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 16:13:18 <Roujin> btw, may i suggest you name your pack something reasonable instead of long_filename ? Like gonozal_pp (patchpack) or so... 16:13:18 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 16:13:37 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't think red is a good colour for that recommended 16:13:41 <Gonozal_VIII> red = warning 16:13:51 <Gonozal_VIII> should be blue imho 16:14:36 <Gonozal_VIII> the filename used to be all patch names seperated by _ 16:14:38 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489BB68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:46 <Gonozal_VIII> was a very long filename^^ 16:15:21 <Yorick> go include this one http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=613485#p613485 16:15:29 <Yorick> the ship regional YAPF 16:15:50 <Gonozal_VIII> ship yapf :O 16:15:59 <Yorick> regional (!) 16:16:04 <Yorick> means it works fine 16:16:52 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 16:17:53 <Yorick> Gonozal_VIII: there is also the Not recommended when selecting ntp for trains or yapf for ships... 16:17:59 <Roujin> <Gonozal_VIII> was a very long filename^^ <-- well don't change it back to every single name, just name it gonozal_pack or somehting ;) 16:18:01 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1057 16:18:01 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:01 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 16:18:50 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll consider changing it... doesn't really matter 16:19:00 <Gonozal_VIII> it is what it is^^ 16:21:43 <Gonozal_VIII> is that region pf finished? the post doesn't read like that 16:22:40 <SmatZ> it doesn't compile on amd64, and that "pointer to hash" function is a bit strange... 16:22:58 <SmatZ> will the same data have the same pointer every time? 16:23:15 <SmatZ> maybe yes, I haven't checked the rest of code 16:23:31 <Yorick> routeplanner != regional yapf ! 16:23:36 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@host81-141-195-37.wlms-broadband.com] has joined #openttd 16:23:49 <SmatZ> I am talking about that ship yapf 16:23:53 <Yorick> ok 16:24:35 *** Guest1057 [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:32 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 16:45:42 <Yorick> Gonozal_VIII: better this way? http://bugs.openttd.org/?getfile=2421 16:46:06 <Yorick> don't mind the industry graphics, its a newindustries grf that has been removed 16:46:47 <Gonozal_VIII> actually i meant the same blue as the other text^^ like (requires NPF) 16:49:21 <Yorick> I like this one more 16:49:35 <Yorick> it really makes it "good" and "bad" 16:50:25 <Gonozal_VIII> bah, why am i still awake 16:50:46 <Yorick> because its only 17:50 16:51:08 <Gonozal_VIII> it's already 17:50 16:51:13 <Roujin> ...oO 16:51:38 <Gonozal_VIII> my saturday to sunday sleep is yet to come 16:51:45 <Yorick> :O 16:52:04 <Roujin> skip it 16:52:25 <Gonozal_VIII> can't just skip a whole night... 16:52:36 <Roujin> why not? 16:52:41 <Gonozal_VIII> only slept for 4 hours yesterday 16:53:14 <Roujin> then why did you stay up that long again? 16:53:35 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't feel tired until some minutes ago 16:53:44 <Roujin> meh.. 16:54:09 <Yorick> have to go 16:54:09 <Yorick> cya 16:54:12 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 16:54:12 <Gonozal_VIII> all of a sudden i'm so tired, i could fall asleep right away 16:55:09 <Roujin> stay awake for 2 more hours, then sleep until tomorrow morning - then you've slept enough and are not in a shifted rhythm anymore 16:55:30 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcd5c.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 16:55:32 <Roujin> better than to sleep now and get up in the middle of the night again or something 16:56:14 <Gonozal_VIII> going to sleep at 19:56 is very shifted rythm for me... 16:57:52 <Roujin> well don't you have a job or study or something else that requires you to get up in the morning? 16:58:13 <Gonozal_VIII> not atm 16:58:28 <Roujin> oh, then why not try the 28 hour day? :D 16:58:37 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 16:58:54 <Roujin> 18 hours awake, 10 hours sleep - makes 6 days a week 16:59:14 <Gonozal_VIII> i know, i read xkcd too 17:00:15 <Roujin> you know.. i think i'd really do that in semester holidays if i didn't have a gf who'd probably kill me for that xD 17:01:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-239-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:02:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll just sleep now until i wake up, then i'll make a new patch thingy, watch some more dr who stuff and maybe sleep some more, good plan, good night^^ 17:02:19 <Roujin> sleep well 17:02:32 <Gonozal_VIII> thanks 17:03:02 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 17:03:09 <Roujin> don't kill yourself for OpenTTD - even it's close to being worth killing yourself for 17:03:17 <Roujin> :P 17:04:19 <DJ-Nekkid> !password 17:04:20 *** DJ-Nekkid was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 17:04:28 <Roujin> lol 17:04:46 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:04:47 <Roujin> you're kicked for that? xD 17:05:17 <glx> yes because some people tried it 5 times in a row 17:05:27 <DJ-Nekkid> apparently... didnt realize i were in the wrong channel 17:05:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host34-61-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:06:15 <Roujin> hi wolf01 17:06:27 <Wolf01> hi 17:06:44 <Roujin> thanks for letting me have a look at your code ;) my patch is done and in trunk now :D 17:06:58 <Wolf01> i noticed, congrats ;) 17:10:03 *** juss [~chatzilla@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:10:10 *** juss is now known as LordAzamath 17:10:14 <LordAzamath> hell 17:10:16 <LordAzamath> o 17:10:32 * LordAzamath just downgraded Vista to XP 17:10:40 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3153P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:55 <Ammller> LordAzamath: thats a upgrade :) 17:11:08 <LordAzamath> maybe 17:11:22 <LordAzamath> but it's waaay faster 17:12:15 <peter1138> GAH 17:12:18 <Ammller> now, try a linux distro :) 17:12:18 <peter1138> LV4 SUCKS ASS 17:12:26 <peter1138> Not only that, I didn't load any trams :( 17:13:16 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:22 *** Audigex [~Audigex@84.13.250.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:58 <LordAzamath> Ammller: I've had mandriva2008 for ages for now... 17:15:06 *** Audigex [~Audigex@84.13.250.66] has joined #openttd 17:15:09 <LordAzamath> and I mainly use that 17:15:22 <LordAzamath> but I'm just configuring XP pro atm 17:23:34 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:39 <UnderBuilder> one question, with the graphics replacement proyect will be changed the look of the SH 8P (currently it's identical to the chaney jubilee) 17:26:50 <LordAzamath> Then we can't change sprites with 0A, but have to make a new train.. 17:27:01 <LordAzamath> I think it can be done, but it's not priority 17:27:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> are they the same sprite or just two sprites that look the same? 17:28:08 <LordAzamath> I'm not sure 17:28:19 <LordAzamath> I'm afraid they are one sprite 17:28:33 <LordAzamath> but I can't check atm too 17:28:35 *** Christoph [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:30 <peter1138> It's the same sprite. 17:37:44 <Roujin> i guess the same applies to SH/Hendry '25' and Floss '47' 17:38:32 <Roujin> and SH '30' + SH '40' 17:40:24 <UnderBuilder> I'm thinking on redoing a TTO locomotive and put it as the 8p 17:43:11 *** LordAzamath_ [~chatzilla@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:43:54 <DJ-Nekkid> how can i exclude lifestock with the usage of prop 28/29 on action 0 ? 17:44:11 *** LordAzamath_ [~chatzilla@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:18 <DJ-Nekkid> add it to prop 1D ? 17:45:17 <peter1138> hmm? 17:45:34 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@host81-141-195-37.wlms-broadband.com] has quit [Quit: workin...] 17:45:42 <peter1138> you want to exclude a train having livestock wagons, or a wagon from being refit to livestock? 17:46:30 <DJ-Nekkid> the latter 17:48:47 <DJ-Nekkid> seemed to work 17:48:50 <peter1138> i guess you have to exclude it with the refit mask, hmm 17:49:02 <peter1138> (1D) 17:49:05 <DJ-Nekkid> yes :) 17:49:17 <DJ-Nekkid> and it seemed to work 17:50:00 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:29 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:41 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:58:13 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:59:43 *** Bami [~minge.bag@dhcp-077-250-022-032.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:05 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:00:42 <Bami> hello? 18:01:05 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:01:58 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894D.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:43 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10:10 <Roujin> !seen SmatZ 18:10:21 <SmatZ> I am here 18:10:23 <Roujin> er.. how do these commands work again? 18:10:30 <Roujin> ah even better 18:10:34 <SmatZ> maybe with '@' 18:10:41 <Roujin> @seen SmatZ 18:10:41 <DorpsGek> Roujin: SmatZ was last seen in #openttd 6 seconds ago: <SmatZ> maybe with '@' 18:10:46 <Roujin> thanks 18:10:51 <SmatZ> no problem 18:10:58 <Roujin> well, your last commit missed somethin 18:11:00 <Roujin> +g 18:11:05 <SmatZ> really? 18:11:32 <Roujin> yep, you increased the number of options beyond 8 18:11:33 <Roujin> * If you add an option and have more then 8, change the typedef TransparencyOptionBits and 18:11:34 <Roujin> * the save stuff (e.g. SLE_UINT8 to SLE_UINT16) in settings.cpp . 18:11:52 <Roujin> (check transparency.h) 18:12:11 <SmatZ> mm yeah that comment should be removed 18:13:21 <SmatZ> mmm 18:14:09 <SmatZ> thanks 18:14:56 <peter1138> 'course, now you can't use ctrl to make things invisible ;) 18:15:10 <Bami> question, is there a way to reduce the amount of towns the terrain generator places, something below "low" ? 18:16:01 <SmatZ> peter1138: yeah, just fixing that :) 18:16:16 <peter1138> Bami, yes, use 'Very Low' 18:16:29 <peter1138> If you don't have that option, then upgrade, heh. 18:17:53 <Bami> because large maps equals loads of towns, and personally it's still crowded at "very low" 18:18:03 <Bami> sure, map editing is something but meh 18:19:31 <Bami> also, the site of openTTD displays a link here, but most IRC programs default to a wrong port, making the server activly refuse the connection 18:19:32 <Roujin> but something is off with newest rev... 18:19:56 <peter1138> 6667 is the standard IRC port... 18:20:29 <Roujin> the highest bit option = loading indicators is not restored properly 18:20:47 <SmatZ> Roujin: really? 18:20:54 <SmatZ> it should work :-x 18:21:34 <peter1138> something strange is going on, all my options are locked :o 18:22:39 <peter1138> yeah, options are not saved correctly 18:23:02 <DJ-Nekkid> i have a question about that "all climates-climate" that is under development ... 18:23:07 <SmatZ> mmm they are not stored in savegame 18:23:19 <SmatZ> so changing UINT8->UINT shouldn't make any problem 18:23:32 <peter1138> DJ-Nekkid, who's developing that? 18:23:50 <DJ-Nekkid> you i thought :) 18:23:51 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe 18:23:52 <Roujin> i just tested some cases 18:24:00 <DJ-Nekkid> nvm then 18:24:38 <Roujin> it seems option 0-7 are just always set and locked, and 8 is cleared and unlocked 18:24:57 <Roujin> at game start 18:25:13 <peter1138> 0-7 are always set, yes, i'm seeing that 18:25:17 <peter1138> they're not all locked though :o 18:26:02 <peter1138> it looks like they're being saved correctly, but not loaded properly 18:26:30 <peter1138> i toggle every other one and it saves as 341 - 101010101 18:26:36 <peter1138> but it's loaded as 011111111 18:26:44 <peter1138> oh 18:26:45 <peter1138> DUH 18:26:50 <peter1138> + SDTG_VAR("transparency_options", SLE_UINT, S, 0, _transparency_opt, 0, 0,0xFF,0, STR_NULL, NULL), 18:26:50 <peter1138> + SDTG_VAR("transparency_locks", SLE_UINT, S, 0, _transparency_lock, 0, 0,0xFF,0, STR_NULL, NULL), 18:26:51 <peter1138> 0xFF 18:27:21 <peter1138> so anything other 255 is set to 255, hehe 18:27:25 <peter1138> *over 18:27:42 <Roujin> hehe 18:27:45 * SmatZ shouldn't touch anything :-x 18:27:53 <Roujin> there's the nasty little bugger xD 18:29:06 <Roujin> nice job spotting it peter, I would have needed two hours at least ^^ 18:31:56 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r12104 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Fix (r12103): remember loading indicators transparency settings and make in switchable by Ctrl+9 18:32:06 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:32:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:53:34 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:00:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> if we now have stuff like different signals on the two parallel tracks, how high are the probabilities of separating the signals for each direction? 19:01:05 * Bami stabs something.h 19:01:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> like, i could place a "advanced" signal in one direction, and a "don't ever go here", or a "don't go here if you can avoid it" signal in the other direction? 19:02:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> or splitting these two apart completely 19:02:18 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-117-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:36 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 19:08:00 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-139-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:28 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:09:27 * LordAzamath is compiling r12104 19:11:07 * Bami is stabbing r12104 19:16:57 <UnderBuilder> I got an idea for the advanced graphics replacement: adding the TTO only locomotives as a grf set 19:19:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you've got at least two problems there: a) the TTO graphics are copyright protected the same way as the TTD files, b) some TTO vehicles got left out to free vehicle IDs for maglev 19:27:44 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894D.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:30:04 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54970285.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...] 19:36:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:39:48 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:43:32 *** Bami [~minge.bag@dhcp-077-250-022-032.chello.nl] has quit [] 19:46:57 <UnderBuilder> I mean making an free replacement of them 19:47:47 <peter1138> whatever anyone does as a separate grf set is... well, separate from the replacement stuff. 19:49:36 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:00 <yorick> one still didn't answer my question: [07:21] <Yorick> how are my chances of being trunked if I make a patch that rewrites the pathfinding selection patches? 19:53:19 <SmatZ> I like the idea, that's all I can say 19:53:45 <glx> same here (will reduce the number of settings, which is always good) 19:54:18 <yorick> hehe :) 19:54:30 <glx> there are way too much settings for vehicles 19:55:26 <yorick> I think some could be moved to gui 19:55:46 <yorick> like "Warn if train is lost" 19:56:08 <glx> settings should have a per user/per game separation 19:56:11 <SmatZ> and makes it easier to understand (like what has precedence), and that "NPF overrides NTP" comment is a bit misleading too, when there is no NTP option anymore 19:56:21 * SmatZ agrees with glx 19:56:31 <SmatZ> per user / per company / per game :-D 19:56:38 <glx> right :) 19:56:56 <yorick> the timetabling, it just adds another button to the vehicles, no need for wanting to disable it... 19:57:21 <glx> it doesn't only add the button IIRC 19:58:19 <yorick> yes, it enables/disables timetabling...if you don't want to use it, there is a "just don't" option and a option to disable it... 19:58:27 <SmatZ> :-) 19:58:34 <yorick> I think the "just don't" should be enough 19:59:14 <SmatZ> not talking about the case when an option is switched while train is waiting at station etc (like turning on/off realistic acceleration may cause some trains to hold their current speed etc) 19:59:52 <yorick> and allow slopes and autoslope, who would set that to off? 19:59:57 <SmatZ> but an option to disable "speed aircraft" is needed 20:00:22 <SmatZ> someone may want to play with "TTD" rules 20:00:42 <yorick> someone should have 1 button named "Play with TTD rules" 20:00:47 <SmatZ> *speed -> fast 20:00:49 <glx> even better to have multiple values for that one (like in ttdp) 20:01:37 <glx> yorick: not possible, as some ttd things are totally removed 20:01:45 <glx> like OPF for trains 20:02:07 <yorick> there is no-one that wants to play with OPF 20:02:38 <yorick> we should remove the warning from the max station spread 20:02:46 <DaleStan> It's smaller and faster, hence better for things like the DS port. 20:02:50 <SmatZ> mmm yes 20:02:55 <yorick> it causes server admins to keep it low 20:02:58 * SmatZ agrees with DaleStan 20:03:05 <yorick> yes, NTP is too 20:03:37 <DaleStan> And since that port can't even do 256x256 maps, the limitations of OPF are non-issues. 20:03:43 <yorick> I think NTP is as small as OPF 20:04:05 <yorick> we removed OPF for trains, dalestan, reintroducing it would mean more settings 20:04:14 <yorick> we = they 20:04:15 <SmatZ> I think the problem with slowdowns because of high station spread has been fixed long ago (or maybe there is another issue with that) 20:04:21 <yorick> yes 20:04:41 <glx> the slowdown should still be valid for "slow" machines I think 20:04:48 <yorick> but it still causes server admins to keep it low 20:05:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:06:07 * yorick is going to make that "Play with TTD rules" button 20:06:49 <yorick> ...maybe 20:07:09 <SmatZ> yorick: it is probably a waste of time... there would be too many things to change 20:07:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, what is the preferred way to loop through the 4 (not 8) neighbouring tiles? 20:08:33 <yorick> Disable electric rails should be inverted, I think :) 20:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: if you are really going to mess with settings, rewrite the difficulty settings using patch options, and then divide all patch options into difficulty options and game options 20:11:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> then give each new difficulty option a difficulty modificator, and choose overall difficulty level by the average of all difficulty option (do away with the "custom" level) 20:11:05 <LordAzamath> yorick, if you already are on that path, can you introduce a behaviour, that in-game changes for NewGRFs and patch settings CAN be stored as default, like currently in the main menu.. something like save button next to apply 20:11:17 <yorick> :O 20:11:30 <LordAzamath> :D 20:11:30 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: for (DiagDirection d... 20:11:43 <yorick> yes, thanks, any more suggestions :) 20:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: imho that is a very needed cleanup 20:13:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: people are asking "can difficulty settings be changed from console" like every week 20:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you hardly ever find anyone playing with one of the default difficulty levels, all use custom 20:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the term "patch setting" is generally disliked 20:17:34 <glx> I used "advanced settings" for french translation :) 20:18:00 <LordAzamath> hmm.. 20:18:23 <yorick> the dutch translation generally sucks :( 20:18:57 <yorick> i.e. there is no correct translation for "roadvehicle" in dutch 20:20:07 * yorick hopes he didn't offend anyone 20:21:27 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:26:46 *** Stoffe [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22.2] 20:27:03 *** SmatZ [~Miranda@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:30:36 *** Gekz [~brendan@cpe-124-183-21-103.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:54 <Mucht> wow, we could well need a >10 clients option for our #openttdcoop servers :-P 20:33:09 <Wolf01> 'night 20:33:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host34-61-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:33:38 <yorick> there are 11 in trunk ;) 20:33:51 <LordAzamath> :P 20:33:53 <Mucht> wow, we could well need a >11 clients option for our #openttdcoop servers :-P 20:34:54 <yorick> :D 20:35:06 <LordAzamath> yorick: One idea, to get to patch settings.. or something like that. www.hot.ee/madisaasmae/adv.png 20:35:29 * yorick explodes 20:35:52 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: * Yorick exploded, have a nice day!] 20:36:03 <LordAzamath> o shit 20:36:21 <peter1138> LordAzamath, frankly, yuck ;) 20:36:43 <peter1138> but speaking of which 20:37:05 <peter1138> does anyone use custom vehicle design names? 20:37:14 <peter1138> not that saving or loading of them works 20:37:14 <LordAzamath> erm.. anyone? 20:37:22 <LordAzamath> doesn't? 20:37:36 <peter1138> hmm? 20:38:31 <LordAzamath> the button is not clickable :P 20:38:36 <peter1138> quite 20:39:11 <LordAzamath> so noone uses it :P 20:39:18 <SmatZ> wasn't it intended so anyone can use "original" vehicle names in TTD? 20:39:42 <peter1138> then newgrf came along... 20:39:45 <LordAzamath> maybe refit that button to advanced settings then? (while yorick is away) 20:39:51 <peter1138> LordAzamath, but with a caveat... 20:39:58 <peter1138> you can still rename engines in game 20:40:15 <LordAzamath> but those won't change 20:40:15 <peter1138> that save button is meant to save them 20:40:19 <LordAzamath> save* 20:40:22 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:40:25 <LordAzamath> I just tried 20:40:33 <peter1138> yes i know 20:40:47 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 20:40:47 <LordAzamath> so nobody possibly uses it :P 20:40:57 <peter1138> my question is should we 1) implement saving/loading or 2) rip it out 20:41:03 <LordAzamath> rip it out 20:41:30 <peter1138> /* XXX: not done */ 20:41:40 <peter1138> DEBUG(misc, 1, "LoadCustomEngineNames: not done"); 20:41:43 <peter1138> is the current code :p 20:41:44 <SmatZ> it doesn't work with newgrfs, does it? 20:41:51 <LordAzamath> that's quite useless now, when you have grfs, which define new names 20:42:05 <peter1138> and the engine rename feature? 20:42:07 <LordAzamath> SmatZ: In ttdp it overwrites custom grf names 20:42:18 <peter1138> it does in ottd 20:42:27 <LordAzamath> but it won't load 20:42:43 <LordAzamath> nor save 20:42:48 *** Audigex [~Audigex@84.13.250.66] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 20:42:49 <peter1138> merely rename 20:42:53 <peter1138> even in network games! 20:43:19 <peter1138> i've seen a couple of bug reports due to that, hehe 20:43:22 <LordAzamath> Note that changes of vehicles names can be overridden by using TTD's vehicle.dat custom vehicle names. There is no way to bypass the custom vehicle names, other than turning them off or deleting vehicle.dat. 20:43:30 <LordAzamath> from specs 20:43:39 <LordAzamath> I think that's for Patch 20:44:10 <LordAzamath> but I can see no reason to rename vehicles 20:44:38 <LordAzamath> even less reason I see, when you can do the same with action04 and save/load those... 20:44:50 <LordAzamath> So I say drop it :) 20:46:16 <peter1138> also it can cause desyncs 20:46:23 <SmatZ> can it? 20:46:25 <peter1138> yes 20:46:27 <LordAzamath> how? 20:46:28 <peter1138> renaming uses a command 20:46:38 <peter1138> resetting the names does not 20:46:50 <peter1138> unlikely to cause any issues and only if you bother trying, but still ;) 20:47:07 <SmatZ> does it affec Radom() in any way? 20:47:21 <peter1138> no 20:47:41 <SmatZ> it is like renaming anything can fail on different clients with different language settings 20:48:09 <LordAzamath> I just joine #openttdcoop server, renamed an engine, nothing happened 20:48:14 <peter1138> hmm, yeah, that's probably my fault :o 20:48:23 <peter1138> LordAzamath, just doing that won't matter 20:48:30 <peter1138> although you can easily confuse other players... 20:48:56 <SmatZ> lets rename all engines to " " or some similiar funny name 20:49:38 <Prof_Frink> rename the ecletic engines to (Diesel) 20:49:46 <SmatZ> :-D 20:49:55 <Prof_Frink> Watch and laugh as people try to run them on non-eclectic tracks 20:50:02 <SmatZ> :) 20:50:03 <peter1138> hehe 20:51:04 <SmatZ> is there a way to determine size of aircraft without using any newgrfs? 20:51:20 <LordAzamath> rename the ecletic engines to (Diesel)>>> I already renamed chimeara to (Steam) 20:51:27 <LordAzamath> before you wrote 20:51:35 <SmatZ> other than looking into code or statistics crash tests on small airports :-D 20:52:05 <peter1138> In game? There used to be small/medium/large tabs 20:52:20 <peter1138> No 20:52:28 <peter1138> It was Propeller / Jet / Helicopter 20:52:35 <peter1138> So it was removed cos it was wrong... 20:54:12 <SmatZ> I am almost sure there was "Aircraft size: small/large/heli" or so, but I think it is active only when using custom planes 20:54:32 <SmatZ> I can't test it now :-/ 20:54:58 <peter1138> That'll be extra text supplied by a particular GRF file 20:55:36 <SmatZ> ha, it is possible 20:57:17 <peter1138> hehe 20:57:19 <LordAzamath> the renaming works over net :P 20:57:20 <peter1138> this was the other bit 20:57:22 <peter1138> case GAMEOPT_VEHICLENAME_SAVE: /* Save customized vehicle-names to disk */ 20:57:27 <peter1138> break; // not implemented 20:57:35 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: will return at 31st december] 20:57:36 <peter1138> LordAzamath, yes it does 20:58:17 <LordAzamath> but that is possible.. source of exploitation... some guyscould get confuzed :P 20:58:50 <LordAzamath> but a/w, gotta sleep now.. 20:59:07 <peter1138> we already said that 20:59:40 <LordAzamath> g'night 21:00:12 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 21:06:53 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:08:46 <peter1138> Hmm 21:08:51 <peter1138> Only problem with removing it 21:09:08 <peter1138> It's an original TTD feature isn't it? 21:09:12 <peter1138> All those strings... 21:12:14 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F541DB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:16:10 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@p549F3EB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3EB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:11 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:21:54 *** XStealth [~exdnf@f82247.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:28:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:23 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: will return at 31st december] 21:34:32 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5F45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:55 <UnderBuilder> lol, transport alert deluxe xD 21:45:27 <peter1138> hmm? 21:45:56 *** XStealth [~exdnf@f82247.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [] 21:50:50 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:31 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:57:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyone care to comment? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1761 21:58:07 <UnderBuilder> well, what I pointed is that the UFOs and military aircraft disasters should be removed 21:59:20 <peter1138> Why? 21:59:42 <UnderBuilder> in the wiki, it says that the game should not contain war elements 22:00:49 <peter1138> wiki schmiki 22:01:34 <ln-_> UnderBuilder: file a bug report 22:02:33 <UnderBuilder> if it were in a long time ago, why it hasn't been reported? 22:02:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, and put it next to the one of the missing earrings ;) 22:03:40 <peter1138> lol 22:03:56 <ln-_> is that fixed yet? 22:04:36 <ln-_> besides this very ugly fix: http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/two-earrings.diff 22:05:58 <UnderBuilder> I think good ideas of disasters to replace them are natural ones like earthquakes, volcano eruptions in high mountains, hurricanes, tornados and human-related like fire in industries and towns, global warming.... 22:06:54 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> UnderBuilder: make a new NewGraphicsSpec for NewDisasters ;) 22:08:13 *** [1]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:09:37 *** [2]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:00 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:00 *** [2]Sogard is now known as Sogard 22:13:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: May the ducttape be with you] 22:13:36 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:13:57 *** SmatZ [~Miranda@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... nobody screams "i waited years for exactly this patch" ... i am sad now... [and no, i don't mean the earrings :)] 22:15:07 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:15:56 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16:17 *** [1]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:52 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: the small bug is not that small for me 22:17:05 <peter1138> makes it worse :) 22:17:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it can be solved ;) 22:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> i was just not sure how 22:17:58 <ln-_> Eddi|zuHause2: i waited years for exactly this patch 22:18:26 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-151-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:52 <glx> and you don't follow the style ;) 22:19:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> which one exactly? 22:19:21 <glx> space after comma 22:19:43 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:08 <ln-_> Eddi|zuHause2: the omit_wires one :) 22:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: right, fixed 22:20:48 <peter1138> could be quite slow 22:21:34 <peter1138> checking 5 tiles instead of 1 ... 22:21:35 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:14 <glx> and you could cache it in the map array 22:22:39 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, the drwaring code does a lot more than that, when trying to figure out how to place pylons, i don't think it is really significant 22:22:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> *drawing 22:23:12 <peter1138> that could be cached too 22:24:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am not going to touch that ;) 22:24:22 <SmatZ> rather not - the slowdown by a little more complex drawing compared with complex checks when modifying railtype or building new rail... and waste of space in the map array 22:25:17 <peter1138> :o 22:25:23 <peter1138> memory that isn't used 22:25:28 <peter1138> versus cpus that are slow 22:26:15 <lobster> is there PBS in ottd nightlies already? 22:26:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> no 22:26:28 <lobster> fuck 22:26:33 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 22:26:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> but there is a quite good patch 22:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> by michi_cc 22:26:56 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 22:27:10 <lobster> i never used separate patches up til now 22:27:16 <SmatZ> building long rail (electrified and non-electrified) would need many checks for tiles around, similiar with rail conversion, building rail station, removing rail, stations, depots, .... 22:27:20 <lobster> they're *.diff files eh? 22:29:43 <peter1138> SmatZ, not really, only all those checks that are already done every time a tile is drawn... 22:29:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter1138: if you want to cache this in the map space, you might as well save railtype for each trackbit 22:30:14 <peter1138> haha 22:30:21 <peter1138> railtype for || or = tracks maybe ;) 22:30:50 <peter1138> lobster, i believe there's a prebuilt version of it around 22:30:54 <SmatZ> yeah 22:31:26 <UnderBuilder> action 14 anyone? 22:31:30 <UnderBuilder> for newdisasters 22:31:39 <peter1138> no 22:31:41 <glx> <@peter1138> railtype for || or = tracks maybe ;) <-- and have fun to convert tracks ;) 22:31:54 <peter1138> new features are defined by, er, features, not actions 22:31:57 <peter1138> glx, hmm? 22:32:31 <UnderBuilder> then feature of which action? 22:32:33 <glx> conversion is done by tile, not by track 22:32:44 <peter1138> UnderBuilder, 0, 1, 2, 3 & 4 usually 22:33:06 <glx> and imagine if you have all tracks but the "cross" 22:33:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: for the "small bug", one could take the easy way out and check, if only one trackbit is there at all, but that does not catch all cases 22:33:50 <peter1138> if there is only one trackbit, then it must be eletric 22:34:02 <peter1138> else check connections 22:34:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> and for anything more complicated, one should probably build a lookup table 22:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter1138: yes, but consider a switch like -<=, when the -< is electified, and the = is not, in my version, no wires would be drawn on the <, and there are 2 track bits present 22:35:20 <peter1138> glx, i never said it would be easy ;) 22:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> or worse: a + where 3 out of 4 neighbours are electrified 22:36:32 <peter1138> i can't see how -<= fits on a map 22:36:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter1138: well, difficult to describe ;) 22:39:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> but really, if you want to catch all cases sufficiently, you need to build a lookup table for each combination of trackbits and neighbours 22:39:59 <peter1138> that's a lot 22:40:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i know 22:40:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> 6 trackbits and 4 neighbours = 2^10 entries ;) 22:40:31 <peter1138> you might want to cache that ;) 22:40:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it's constant ;) 22:41:33 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:18 * peter1138 > sleep 22:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> great idea 22:45:03 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 22:45:25 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-151-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:47 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:47:05 *** [1]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:48:32 *** [2]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:36 <SpComb> clones! 22:49:51 *** [3]Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:00 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 22:52:10 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: I wanted to drop by and telly ou: wow :) 22:52:38 <glx> but he's not here right now 22:52:41 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:52:42 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-255-247.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:44 <TrueBrain> I am sure he has a nice backlog :) 22:53:02 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