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00:14:42 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DBE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 00:14:56 <Rubidium> SmatZ: that's what I wanted to say ;( 00:22:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-144-47.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23:31 *** Poopsmith [~poop@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has joined #openttd 00:40:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:47:27 <Tekky> are compilers at all able to take advantage of dual cores? 00:48:37 <Rubidium> gcc is (AFAIK) not 00:48:59 <Rubidium> but then make can just spawn multiple gccs in parallel sessions 00:50:00 <SmatZ> make -j will run more compiler instances at once if possible 00:50:10 <SmatZ> (better do something like make -j5) 00:50:44 <Sacro> -j3 for dual core 00:51:21 <SmatZ> I have heard "n of CPUs + 1" and "2 * n of CPUs + 1" 00:51:27 <Rubidium> Sacro: it is better to run at least two instances per core 00:52:06 <Rubidium> because when instance A is waiting for IO, instance B can still fully use the core -> the effective IO waiting time is reduced 00:52:19 <Sacro> Rubidium: ooh i like that theory 00:52:46 <SmatZ> on the other hand, if you run more gccs, then you have to wait longer for IO (loading more files at once) 00:54:50 <Rubidium> but that's the worst case scenario where compiling each 'unit' takes exactly the same time, thus IO is also done at the same time 00:58:51 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:33 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 01:01:59 <Sacro> oh noes 01:03:18 * Rubidium ponders heading to the airport to take the afternoon flight 01:24:08 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:26:20 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-190.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:07 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77D8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined 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[~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:02:52 *** SUPEROGT [~dgarcia@189.136.113.93] has joined #openttd 08:03:51 <SUPEROGT> hey ppl, i've a question about stations and farms, what is the max distance between the central building of the farm and the station for gathering their goods 08:04:20 <Noldo> show catchment area when building a station might help 08:04:45 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:51 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:04:57 <SUPEROGT> can i cover only the camps? or must cover the the principal building ? 08:05:09 <Noldo> I don't know 08:05:41 <peter1138> The acceptance list in the station builder window will change as you move around... 08:06:22 <peter1138> Hmm, Acceptance. I'll shut up :) 08:06:33 <SUPEROGT> yeah but i want to know a kind of giving list... if i put the station here, the farm will gimme grain and beef 08:06:46 <Noldo> what is the status of tha patch that would show suply too? 08:07:10 <peter1138> It should work with just one tile in the catchment area, I think. 08:08:11 <SUPEROGT> suply, that word i was looking for :P sorry for my english lol 08:09:47 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 08:10:01 <SUPEROGT> well i guess i'll make some test, i guess it wont work covering camps without the farm building, but i hope it works 08:14:11 <SUPEROGT> nah, must cover the building 08:15:01 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:15:02 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:15:36 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-159-40.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 08:16:02 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 08:28:56 *** zand [~xand@raptor.ukc.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 08:29:49 *** xand [~xand@raptor.ukc.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:46:03 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 08:48:20 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:52:41 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F555A1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:56:23 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-159-40.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:04:08 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 09:06:01 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 09:12:14 *** gonewacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 09:12:35 *** gonewacko is now known as GoneWacko 09:16:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:32 <peter1138> Ah, good old... well, people... 09:17:52 <peter1138> Originally the complaints that My Documents is not used, now the complaints that My Documents is used... 09:18:28 <Forked> people will remain people and complain no matter what you do 09:18:35 <Forked> oh btw.. morning.. 09:21:03 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:24:25 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:27:17 *** bcbg54 [~bcbg54@ANancy-157-1-76-157.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:28:13 <bcbg54> hello gm anny french friends here ? 09:29:59 *** bcbg54 [~bcbg54@ANancy-157-1-76-157.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 09:30:21 <Forked> shame on you all for not responding within 14 seconds :p 09:32:42 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:40:55 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:49:04 <De_Ghost> shame indeed 09:54:37 <SUPEROGT> damn i speak spanish, that's closer 10:40:54 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-053-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:46:31 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:48:05 *** CIA-3 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:20 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 11:13:27 * Celestar peeks into the room 11:14:32 <Celestar> *scratch* 11:14:41 * Celestar has expected some more enthusiasm :P 11:14:59 <Vikthor> Wow Celestar, welcome back! (Better?) 11:15:04 <Celestar> yes ;) 11:15:47 * Celestar goes reading up the svn log (= 11:16:52 <peter1138> Hello Celestar! 11:18:55 <Celestar> heya peter1138 , how's life? 11:24:31 <Celestar> that sounds boring :P 11:32:28 <peter1138> Er... busy? :p 11:35:42 <peter1138> Gah, why is BGP showing the correct selected route but not actually using it...? 11:37:41 <Celestar> BGP? 11:40:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:15 <SpComb> peter1138: try using YAPF instead 11:42:26 <peter1138> Clearly... 11:43:00 <Celestar> what is BGP? 11:43:15 <Noldo> hi Celestar 11:43:52 <Celestar> hey Noldo 11:44:46 <peter1138> Border Gateway Protocol. 11:45:56 <Celestar> ah :) 11:46:04 <Celestar> was thinking ottd-specific :P 11:57:27 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gonozal_VI@90.146.202.98] has quit [] 11:59:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B808E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80623.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:01:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:09:06 *** s13 [~skidd13_w@dialbs-213-023-133-082.static.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:05 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:12:32 *** s13 is now known as Skidd13_work 12:12:40 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:12:55 *** Skidd13_work [~skidd13_w@dialbs-213-023-133-082.static.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 12:25:05 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-108-43-0.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28:26 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:33:20 <Celestar> :o 12:33:32 <Celestar> opensuse 10.3 has 0.6.0beta5 rpms 12:34:07 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-126-55.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:34:12 <peter1138> Shocking. 12:34:21 <peter1138> As in, install OpenTTD and you get the beta? 12:34:27 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-6-119.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:34:47 <Celestar> yeah 12:34:51 <peter1138> :o 12:34:53 <Celestar> "zypper in openttd" 12:35:04 *** Yexo__ [Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 12:37:06 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0EE08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.exelor.de] 12:42:26 *** Yexo_ [Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:11 *** Yexo__ is now known as Yexo 12:53:57 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 13:00:56 <frosch123> "If I try to save a template as "Con" openttd dies 13:01:04 <frosch123> good old dos compatibility 13:01:39 <peter1138> Heh 13:04:34 <Ammler> openSUSE strikes Debian :P 13:05:34 <Ammler> (or beats) 13:07:31 <peter1138> Shipping betas is fail. 13:08:56 <Ammler> hmm. let me check, who makes the packs 13:09:13 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-053-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:03 <Ammler> Toni Graffy <toni@links2linux.de> <-- does someone know him? 13:11:22 <Ammler> The category is also nice: Unterhaltung/Spiele/Strategie/Turn-Based 13:12:05 <frosch123> since when is ottd turn-based? 13:12:14 <Ammler> :-) 13:13:09 <ln-> since when is Turb-Based german? 13:13:24 <frosch123> lets add a "Press space to end the current game tick"-switch 13:15:34 <peter1138> :o 13:18:04 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-067-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:33 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-178-132.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 13:22:13 <Celestar> Ammler: dunno him 13:22:37 <Celestar> Ammler: it's not in the official repo I see, it's in packman 13:22:38 *** llugo [~lugo@p4FD5C177.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:05 <Ammler> well, packman is very common 13:23:11 <Celestar> packman rocks 13:23:41 <Ammler> its also in the Community Repo list 13:23:50 <Celestar> Endeavor crew is in sleep phase. I want that too :( 13:24:05 <Ammler> which can automatically included over yast now 13:24:16 <Celestar> Ammler: I know, I'm just running opensuse 10.3 13:24:24 <Gekz> o.o 13:24:29 <Ammler> oh, :-) 13:24:32 <Gekz> I dont like you infidelity 13:24:34 <Celestar> it's basically the only OS I'm using regularly. apart from SLE[SD] 10 13:24:37 <Gekz> stop this talk of the evil Linux 13:24:49 <Gekz> praise Windows like a true weenie 13:24:50 <Gekz> :) 13:25:21 <Celestar> yeah. the shuttle astronauts just took 30 minutes to upload pics from a digital camera to a damn windows laptop 13:25:47 <Gekz> lol 13:25:59 <Celestar> "Houston, Endeavor, the goddamn 'found new hardware' popup is not appearing. Recommendations?" "Endeavour, Houston, suggest to power-cycle the laptop" 13:26:02 <frosch123> perhaps they tried to use "CON" as filename 13:26:02 <Gekz> better than the Atari ST they had before 13:26:07 <Belugas> hello Celestar. Glad to see you back :) Hope the logs reading will not scare you away ;) 13:26:15 <Celestar> Belugas: heyo. 13:26:24 <Celestar> Belugas: no, up to now, they didn't scare me off. 13:26:33 <Belugas> :) 13:26:40 <Celestar> Belugas: gimme a short update please :) what happened during the past 6 months? 13:26:43 <Celestar> I mean in openttd. 13:26:55 <Celestar> I've been reading the newspaper anyway :P 13:26:58 <Gekz> Celestar: nothing whatsoever! 13:27:37 <Belugas> 6 months??? 13:27:40 <Belugas> that's a lot to ask... 13:27:48 <Belugas> top of my head... 13:27:50 <Celestar> Belugas: I mean any Big New Features (TM) :) 13:27:52 <Belugas> newindistries are on 13:27:56 <Celestar> cool 13:28:17 <Belugas> we have nice slopes 13:28:24 <Belugas> we have rivers 13:28:25 <ln-> the earring bug is still there. 13:28:26 <Celestar> "nice slopes" ? 13:28:37 <Phantasm> Belugas: Any news on the industry shutdown problem on big maps? 13:28:40 <Celestar> rivers? water level > 0 ? 13:28:44 <Celestar> earring?! 13:28:47 <Belugas> yeo 13:28:49 <Belugas> yep 13:28:58 <Celestar> cool 13:29:08 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5CC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:29:21 <Belugas> Phantasm, have you seen anything in the commits regarding that? No? Well... no news 13:29:31 <Phantasm> Belugas: I do not watch commits. 13:29:38 <Belugas> shame on you 13:30:15 <Belugas> nice slopes is a feature coded by frosch 13:30:18 <Belugas> a nice one 13:30:19 <Celestar> Belugas: I'm considering resuming work on gamebalance :) 13:30:29 <Belugas> good 13:30:39 <Celestar> Belugas: what do "nice slopes" do/look like 13:30:40 <Belugas> i was about to remove the branch ;) 13:30:44 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-178-132.netcologne.de] has left #openttd [] 13:31:48 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=34298 13:31:50 <Belugas> there, Celestar 13:32:23 <Celestar> \o/ 13:32:27 <Belugas> shores too... 13:32:28 <frosch123> Belugas beated me :( 13:32:29 <Belugas> nice shores 13:32:31 <Gekz> The Naast... crappy french band 13:32:33 <Belugas> lol 13:32:58 <Belugas> and that one too 13:32:58 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33746 13:33:24 * Belugas might dig up the betas changelogs... 13:33:28 <Belugas> would be easier :S 13:33:36 <Celestar> he 13:33:45 <Celestar> I see you guys have not been lazy (= 13:34:36 <Noldo> there is some interesting PBS actiong going on too 13:34:44 <Belugas> not really... indeed 13:34:51 <Belugas> but right now, pretty much stuck 13:35:03 <Belugas> waiting to branch 0.6 13:35:31 <Belugas> i was thinking, Celestar... 13:35:38 <Celestar> yeah? 13:35:43 <Belugas> there is that branch that Richk67 is working on 13:35:50 <Belugas> the newgrf_ports 13:35:53 <Celestar> ay 13:36:03 <Belugas> basically, i think you both should work togueter 13:36:05 <Belugas> on it 13:36:13 <Belugas> yu know state machine code, 13:36:17 <Belugas> so does he 13:36:25 <Celestar> that's correct 13:36:40 <Belugas> joining forces on it will be more helpfull than game balancing, no offense meant 13:36:48 <Celestar> that sounds reasonable 13:36:52 <Celestar> deal. 13:36:57 <Belugas> :D 13:37:00 <Belugas> good ! 13:37:14 <Celestar> I'll talk to him once he's online 13:37:28 <Celestar> WEE!! I finally got NASA TV working on linux 13:37:49 <Belugas> once the airports are done, the truck/bus stops will be possible to change, so will be shipyards :) 13:37:55 <Belugas> ? 13:37:56 <Belugas> ho 13:38:11 <Celestar> just typical stupid codec messup 13:38:25 <Celestar> firefox just crashes on NASA TV, all other browsers work :P 13:39:15 <Belugas> better leave a PM to richk67, he was on irc yesterday, but it has been after a very long no-connect time 13:39:32 * Belugas heads down to work 13:39:56 <Celestar> touch foo > svn ci -m "richk. please contact me" ? 13:40:16 <Celestar> svn add foo :P 13:40:31 <Noldo> :) 13:40:34 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-246-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:41:21 <Ammler> Celestar: my favorite browser is more and more Opera 13:41:41 <Celestar> Ammler: I'm using epiphany 13:42:14 <Ammler> hmm, don't know that 13:42:27 <Celestar> it's firefox-based, but lightweight 13:42:34 <Celestar> so rather gecko-based 13:43:46 <keyweed> kazehakase is a nice light weight browser. 13:44:01 <keyweed> only wish they'd chosen another name 13:45:19 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 13:45:33 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:45:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:48:06 <Celestar> but epiphany also works with flash 9, mms and crap 13:48:08 <Celestar> hey glx 13:48:29 <keyweed> i don't need or want flash and crap 13:48:50 <Celestar> meanwhile, you sometimes need even flash for crappy driver downloads or shit 13:48:52 <glx> wow Celestar is back :) 13:48:57 <Celestar> yeah \o/ 13:49:03 <keyweed> i don't. i also don't need drivers. 13:49:11 <Celestar> ^^ 13:49:34 <GoneWacko> w3m is the one and only browser :3 13:49:38 <keyweed> well, to be honest, i need 1 driver. 13:49:42 <Celestar> lynx!! 13:50:12 <keyweed> not really needb ut want. 13:59:25 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:14:51 * peter1138 returns! 14:16:03 <Celestar> :) 14:16:11 <Celestar> shuttle launches are cool to watch 14:16:35 <peter1138> Except when they go wrong. 14:16:39 * Celestar wonders why astronauts have a 23:45 hour day 14:16:56 <peter1138> Then you don't know whether to think "wow, cool!" or "oh my god!" 14:21:33 <Rubidium> huh? A Celestar? Here? How can it be? 14:21:47 <Rubidium> And that when I was thinking about going to bed 14:21:59 <peter1138> :D 14:22:41 <Celestar> Rubidium: :) 14:23:16 *** lino [~LiOn@p4FCE9464.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:23:20 <Celestar> peter1138: only one launch went wrong up to now, you know (= 14:23:45 <Noldo> and one landing? 14:23:49 <Celestar> yeah 14:23:55 <Celestar> not the landing actually 14:23:58 <Celestar> the re-entry 14:24:01 <Noldo> yes 14:24:03 *** lino is now known as LiOn 14:25:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.136] has joined #openttd 14:26:38 <Celestar> we need a better transportation systems 14:26:47 <Celestar> some brits came up with a good idea 14:26:48 <Noldo> we? 14:26:50 <mrfrenzy> subways maybe 14:27:07 <mrfrenzy> aah you're talking space flight now ;) 14:27:57 <Rubidium> Celestar: yes, trains sucks (especially Shinkansens), also planes sucks (especially the ones with cracks in the windscreen) 14:28:40 <peter1138> Teleportation? 14:28:45 *** larsemil [~larsemil@77-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se] has joined #openttd 14:28:49 <larsemil> hey! 14:28:54 <Celestar> a company called Reaction Engines Ltd 14:29:26 <larsemil> so i am going to play some openttd with some friends tonight. and we are going to play the latest nightly. but i was wondering about the tram-thingy? how do i get that into the game? 14:29:33 <larsemil> and is there something else i should add? 14:30:08 <mrfrenzy> larsemil: grf 14:30:08 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.182.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:20 <larsemil> mrfrenzy: how do i do that? 14:30:34 <mrfrenzy> you just grab for example "german trams.grf" 14:30:44 <mrfrenzy> put them in the data dir, and add it in the settings 14:30:53 <mrfrenzy> there is a whole wikipage about it 14:30:54 <larsemil> mrfrenzy: and then i can build on roads etc? 14:31:06 <mrfrenzy> you build "tramroads" 14:31:14 <larsemil> cool. where do i put this file? 14:31:27 <mrfrenzy> in the data dir as i said 14:31:29 <mrfrenzy> read the wiki ;) 14:32:07 <larsemil> ah sorry 14:32:29 <larsemil> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=33415 this one would work? 14:32:40 <mrfrenzy> I use the nice openttdcoop pack http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/index.php/GRF 14:33:20 <mrfrenzy> sry I 14:33:25 <mrfrenzy> m on 56k today ;) 14:33:26 <mrfrenzy> won 14:33:32 <mrfrenzy> t browse like that 14:33:59 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 14:34:15 <larsemil> i understasnd that. :) 14:36:32 <larsemil> mrfrenzy: how do i install it? 14:36:37 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:36:59 <larsemil> its like 7 direcotiries? i just copy them all into data or i have to copy the .grf files? 14:37:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12359 /3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/sqvm.cpp: [Squirrel] -Fix [FS#1845]: 'return' caused the stack to be cleaned up twice, and causing asserts 14:40:42 <larsemil> i add the file. and then choose new GRF settings. add gertram file. save settings. start new game. but cant find where to build tram-tracks. 14:41:27 <peter1138> Click and hold on the road build icon 14:42:07 <larsemil> aah! 14:42:10 <larsemil> super! thanks 14:42:59 <peter1138> Hidden features ahoy... 14:44:44 <Celestar> where's TB anyway? 14:46:24 <Rubidium> likely closer to you than he's to me (physically that is) 14:47:15 <Celestar> :P 14:49:30 <larsemil> hmm is the building canals thingy any fun? 14:49:59 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 14:51:54 <peter1138> It's expensive... 14:52:55 <keyweed> it's fun to see boats sailing over rails 14:53:19 <Slowpoke> you can totaly erase sea squares and put a canal around those squares 14:56:10 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:04:48 <Celestar> the braindead EU liquid-ban on airline flights might be cancelled soon \o/ 15:08:56 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1D30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:09:32 <larsemil> okay home and play. will get back if i miss something. tonight 15:09:33 <larsemil> see ya 15:26:22 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> a Celestar? my eyes must be decieving me! 15:50:16 <Celestar> (= 15:50:20 <Celestar> they ain't 15:50:47 <Noldo> that's what the deciving eyes would say 15:51:41 <Celestar> :P 15:52:18 <Noldo> I need a backup tinkering project :/ 15:52:25 *** ln [~lanurmi@enterprise.yok.utu.fi] has quit [Quit: Ã] 15:52:45 <Celestar> ? 15:53:44 <Noldo> just in case my primary project doesn't get support 15:56:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> implement shunting ;) 15:59:25 <Noldo> I don't do features ;) 15:59:39 <peter1138> :( 15:59:39 <Celestar> primary project? 16:00:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> Noldo: you can focus on the underlying infrastructure ;) 16:00:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i.e. separate "trains" from "[front] rail vehicles" 16:01:05 <Noldo> Celestar: FS1843 16:01:10 <Belugas> Noldo : suggestion : bug fixes! 16:01:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:01:35 <Belugas> they are, when well done, far more appreciated than features... 16:01:40 <Belugas> anyone can do features 16:01:52 <Belugas> only the good ones are bug fixing 16:03:25 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B4C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:25 <Belugas> Noldo, am i right in assuming you've created a new file out of the code based in ship_cmd ? 16:05:42 * Celestar is going to leavel 16:06:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> btw. Celestar... remember the suggestion i made 2 years ago? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1761 16:06:10 * Belugas straps Celestar to his chair 16:06:14 <Belugas> NO YOU DON"T 16:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not entirely perfect 16:06:35 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: he nice :) 16:06:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> but might be improved upon 16:07:09 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:31 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489E4BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:22 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:16:54 <Noldo> Belugas: yes 16:18:19 <yorick> can I get xchat for windows for free somewhere? 16:18:51 <Belugas> Noldo, i fear you did it wrong then 16:19:03 <Belugas> it should have been done with a svn copy, 16:19:26 <Belugas> since that will allow to keep the history of the code been shipped in new file 16:19:48 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7893C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:20:02 <Belugas> yorick, you are REALLY boring 16:20:20 <yorick> yes, thank you 16:20:42 <Noldo> Belugas: and svn diff has the copy information too? 16:21:45 <Belugas> svn diff as such no, but once it will be commited, it will follow. IIRC, it will show the new file a bit differently 16:22:00 <Belugas> on the diff... 16:22:27 <Noldo> ok, I keep that in mind when making a new version 16:25:15 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:12 <peter1138> Have we branched 0.6 yet? :o 16:26:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> are we there yet? 16:27:17 <Belugas> i think we are pretty much at that point indeed 16:27:40 <peter1138> Just waiting on more beta5 bugs really. 16:28:08 <peter1138> Although FS#1841 is odd. 16:28:57 <peter1138> It leaves the depot when track is occupied. 16:29:23 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gonozal_VI@90.146.202.98] has joined #openttd 16:30:07 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 16:34:51 <nicfer> one question: can be changed via grf the requirements of the city for its grow? 16:35:06 <yorick> no 16:35:44 <nicfer> for example, making the temperate cities require goods for its grow 16:36:04 <yorick> no, you can't do that using a grf 16:36:23 <yorick> the requirements are defined in the code (town_cmd.cpp) 16:36:38 <nicfer> I want to do a thing like the challenge spinoff 16:39:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: actually, you are wrong 16:39:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> e.g. the alpine.grf removes the need for food above snow line 16:40:25 <yorick> the last time I checked... 16:40:35 <yorick> maybe alpine overrides houses 16:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> houses don't have anything to do with towns 16:41:07 <Noldo> _) 16:41:56 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:11 <yorick> hmm...I can't find the requirements for temperate or toyland 16:47:11 <yorick> but, eddi: if (TilePixelHeight(t->xy) >= GetSnowLine() && t->act_food == 0 && t->population > 90) return; 16:47:32 <yorick> only way I can think of is swapping the food and goods ids 16:48:31 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:48:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> i assume a grf callback somewhere 16:48:59 <yorick> see for yourself 16:49:17 <Vikthor> And doesn't alpine work on temperate, just adding winter graphics? 16:49:25 <yorick> no 16:49:29 <yorick> it needs snowline ;) 16:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, alpine works on arctic, adding temperate grass and industry 16:49:56 <yorick> maybe the town growth isn't compatible with variable snow line heights, in which case it would be a bug 16:50:03 <Vikthor> aha OK 16:50:26 <LordAzamath> anyone got some spare time? 16:50:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> no. 16:50:40 <LordAzamath> not you.. pff 16:50:50 <LordAzamath> . 16:51:27 <LordAzamath> :( 16:51:41 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 16:52:11 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-067-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> strike! ;) 16:52:39 <yorick> but it seems to be very unlikely that GetSnowLine() doesn't support ot 16:54:28 <yorick> because it is used for newindustries snow checking aswell 17:06:06 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F025.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:12 * Belugas slaps itself 'cause of wrong command type used 17:09:17 <Belugas> himself... 17:11:08 *** mirkn00b [~mirkn00b@host217-42-29-112.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:11:16 <mirkn00b> hello 17:11:23 <mirkn00b> anyone here 17:11:36 <Belugas> from time to time, yes 17:11:37 <Belugas> hello 17:12:00 <yorick> hello 17:12:09 <mirkn00b> hi there... got an openTTD Q, anyone know why my LAN games don't get any AI companies starting?` 17:12:17 <yorick> let the other 97 say hello aswell :) 17:12:32 <mrfrenzy> hi ;) 17:12:39 <yorick> have you activated "AI in Multiplayer"? 17:12:43 <mrfrenzy> I think those are disabled by default in multiplayer mirkn00b 17:12:53 <mirkn00b> Where is that setting? 17:13:26 <yorick> it is at "Opponents" patch tab 17:13:43 <mirkn00b> ah, found it..... thx guys 17:16:00 *** mirkn00b [~mirkn00b@host217-42-29-112.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:16:22 <yorick> I need another language pack header: to what netlang it converts 17:17:42 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:21:33 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:25:28 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:52 <yorick> slowchatting by 1847 :x 17:34:14 <glx> yorick: there's no problem in openttdw.grf :) 17:34:24 <glx> the problem is in rev.cpp 17:34:32 <peter1138> yorick: Try the TE_ enum... 17:34:41 <peter1138> 16:45 yorick> but, eddi: if (TilePixelHeight(t->xy) >= GetSnowLine() && t->act_food == 0 && t->population > 90) return; 17:34:46 <peter1138> regarding that... 17:35:06 <peter1138> You can make a GRF that makes goods behave as food for towns. 17:35:49 <peter1138> NFO wiki lists it as town growth substitute type, or something similar. 17:38:58 <yorick> uint16 act_food;uint16 act_water; <-- you can't have both at the same time, so why not merge them? 17:39:18 <peter1138> Why can't you? 17:39:59 <yorick> I can, I think, I was just curious if there was a reason not to do that? 17:40:08 <peter1138> No, I mean why can't you have both? 17:41:02 <yorick> pff...to save memory? 17:41:28 <peter1138> ... 17:41:30 <peter1138> What? 17:41:41 <yorick> some 16 bytes? 17:41:53 <peter1138> You've stated that you can't have both at the same time... well why not? 17:42:23 <yorick> no, you can, but I think, it's not needed 17:42:31 <peter1138> Why is it not needed? 17:42:44 <yorick> because you can't use both at the same time? 17:42:57 <peter1138> You can. 17:43:11 <yorick> ...?! 17:44:24 <peter1138> Both food and water must be supplied for a desert town to grow. 17:44:33 <yorick> food in tropical? 17:44:38 * yorick is outdated 17:44:45 <hylje> always been 17:49:08 <yorick> * TODO: usrerror() for errors which are not of an internal nature but caused by the user, i.e. missing files or fatal configuration errors. Post-0.4.0 since Celestar doesn't want this in SVN before. --pasky */ <-- ooh, old comments! 17:50:08 <peter1138> hehe 17:51:34 <yorick> would saving pcx images when using the 32bpp blitter even work? 17:53:26 <nicfer> is possible to make houses produce another cargos than passengers/mail? 17:53:40 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 17:54:44 <Belugas> these are the direct houses properties -> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Houses 17:55:00 <Belugas> using callbacks, mmore can be done 17:55:09 <Belugas> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Callbacks 17:55:59 <Belugas> and maybe more precisely : http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Callbacks#Custom_cargo_production_2E_ 17:59:44 *** stavrosg [~stavrosg@athedsl-243155.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 18:04:37 <nicfer> well, grf is not for me, so I can provide the design of the challenge spinoff revival if someone has enough free time and knowledges to do it 18:04:50 <nicfer> grfs are like a maze for me 18:05:08 <nicfer> (my nick on tt-forums is UnderBuilder 18:05:56 <Belugas> better to learn grf than to try to patch the code, imho 18:06:13 <Patrick`> mmm 18:06:47 <Belugas> if a grf can be made, it's always better, since it can be shared 18:06:58 <Belugas> patches are useless withiout recompile 18:07:25 <Gonozal_VIII> depends on who you want to play with 18:07:45 <Gonozal_VIII> sending a binary to some friends is no problem 18:08:10 * Belugas was thinking about the overall community 18:08:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:09:13 <Gonozal_VIII> the community of people wearing overalls? 18:13:32 * peter1138 has some of the basics of that already 18:13:35 <peter1138> very basic :o 18:14:15 <Gonozal_VIII> overalls? 18:14:29 <peter1138> Korenn's challenge spinoff 18:15:39 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:59 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ACC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:24 <skidd13> @seel LA[lord] 18:19:33 <skidd13> @seen LA[lord] 18:19:33 <DorpsGek> skidd13: seen [<channel>] <nick> 18:20:03 <skidd13> damn brackets.... 18:20:12 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ACC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Ping timeout: Hmm ping sucks :D] 18:21:10 <Prof_Frink> @seen LA\[lord\] 18:21:10 <DorpsGek> Prof_Frink: seen [<channel>] <nick> 18:21:17 <Prof_Frink> Worth a try. 18:22:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:22:49 <Wolf01> hello 18:24:34 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 18:28:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:30:39 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:32:51 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 18:33:13 * Sacro is back on ABBA 18:33:52 <Prof_Frink> Amarok: Chumbawamba - Tubthumping 18:34:47 <nicfer> one question... is there any jabber clients for mobile phones? 18:35:49 <Sacro> nicfer: yes 18:38:41 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-065-188-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:00 <yorick> Prof_Frink: [19:38] <@The_Master> yorick: LordAzamath was last seen in #? 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <LordAzamath> you saw me coming at #openttd right? :P 18:40:02 <yorick> FS#1847 can be closed, right? 18:40:29 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 18:40:36 <Prof_Frink> yorick: 'twas more a test of the bot than actually giving a damn when LA was last here 18:40:50 <yorick> it fails at [] 18:41:01 <yorick> LA* should work 18:42:52 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-31-76.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:49:06 *** Barry [~chatzilla@145.18.96.179] has joined #openttd 18:49:59 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-149-051.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:31 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:40 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-112-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:09 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:56:59 <Barry> Hello 18:57:32 <yorick> hello 18:58:57 <Barry> Any body here play with Gonozal_VIII patchpack 18:59:10 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, i do 18:59:43 <yorick> :D I really couldn't have guessed that 18:59:44 <Barry> hehehehe ofcourse :-) I'm my game with your patchpack the competitors don't build anything. Is that right? 19:00:06 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't change the ai... the ai just sucks 19:00:24 <yorick> non-human competitors are bad 19:00:29 <glx> the AI has some problems if map is not 256*256 19:00:39 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 19:02:11 <Belugas> ho... The_Master is a bot... good... i've banned a bot 19:02:27 <Barry> Gonozal do you play with competitors in your game? 19:02:37 <Gonozal_VIII> no, never 19:03:27 <Barry> ok 19:03:33 <yorick> Belugas: [20:03] <@yorick> The_Master, are you a bot? [20:03] <@The_Master> yorick: No, are you? 19:04:56 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:05:14 <yorick> [20:04] <@yorick> The_Master, no, I am not, but Belugas strongly believes you are one. [20:04] <@The_Master> yorick: Why do you say that? [20:04] <@yorick> The_Master, because belugas says that you are a bot. [20:04] <@The_Master> yorick: No, I am a human, you are a bot. 19:05:25 <glx> @op 19:05:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 19:05:32 <glx> ok stop spamming now :) 19:05:47 <yorick> grr 19:05:51 <Belugas> hehe 19:05:53 <Belugas> yup 19:06:06 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:06:11 <Belugas> or you'll follow The_Master's state, whatever he/it is 19:06:59 <LordAzamath> TheMaster isn't here.. why are you talking about it? :o 19:07:22 <yorick> try !logs 19:07:49 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 19:07:49 <LordAzamath> !logs 19:09:54 <LordAzamath> @seen skidd13 19:09:55 <DorpsGek> LordAzamath: skidd13 was last seen in #openttd 49 minutes and 51 seconds ago: <skidd13> damn brackets.... 19:10:00 <LordAzamath> hmm 19:10:12 <LordAzamath> I hoped he'd be here 19:10:19 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 19:10:49 <Belugas> hey guys, i've discovered a very clever feature on my browser! It's called BOOKMARK 19:10:58 <Forked> what does it do!? 19:11:06 <Belugas> you should try it too.... it's awesome... 19:11:14 <Belugas> it remembers URLS... 19:11:15 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: Or, locationbar history 19:11:37 <Belugas> like, you don't have to type anything to get a usefull web page... 19:11:45 <Forked> but I like typing 19:11:47 <Belugas> indeed... 19:11:52 <Forked> it makes me more attractive to women.. right? 19:11:58 <Belugas> grr..... 19:12:16 * Forked shuts up and does some housework to avoid gf agression 19:12:23 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:23 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:12:25 <LordAzamath> Belugas: Implement bookmarks to openttd? 19:12:37 <LordAzamath> â very clever feature you said 19:12:48 <Belugas> not needed... 19:13:08 <LordAzamath> for latest savegames? for best newgrfs? 19:13:11 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:13:13 <Gonozal_VIII> there are bookmarks in openttd 19:13:19 <Gonozal_VIII> they are called signs 19:13:22 <LordAzamath> gah 19:13:37 <LordAzamath> you can't click on them to go somewhere 19:13:43 <LordAzamath> you can only edit them 19:13:49 <Gonozal_VIII> you can 19:13:52 <peter1138> The sign is the place to go :o 19:13:56 <Gonozal_VIII> click on a sign in the sign list 19:13:59 <Ammler> hmm, a good thing would be possibitly to export/import cfg 19:14:13 <LordAzamath> export :) 19:14:19 <peter1138> Ammler, er, just copy openttd.cfg? 19:14:32 <LordAzamath> but what if you change something in-game? 19:14:38 <Ammler> hmm, but you don't write it after start anymore, do you? 19:14:40 <LordAzamath> you can never save thrm.. 19:15:04 <LordAzamath> Ammler: Isn't it written on exit? 19:15:07 <Belugas> open door to bug reports frenezy 19:15:12 <Belugas> frenzy 19:15:26 <LordAzamath> oh yea.. 19:15:32 * LordAzamath has a bug report 19:15:42 * peter1138 has a bug reporting system. 19:15:56 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:16:00 * yorick has SmatZ! 19:16:09 <LordAzamath> good for you 19:16:10 <peter1138> Hello SmatZ 19:16:14 <SmatZ> hello yorick! 19:16:16 <SmatZ> hello peter1138! 19:16:19 <Ammler> well feature request without patch isn't nice :-) 19:16:30 <Ammler> or bugreport 19:17:15 *** LiOn [~LiOn@p4FCE9464.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:17:20 <SmatZ> with a working patch with correct coding style :) 19:17:22 <Belugas> i've got a bug reporting system too :) 19:17:26 <Belugas> url= http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/photos/dare_to_complain.PNG 19:17:43 <LordAzamath> :O 19:17:51 <LordAzamath> I just deconfirmed a bug 19:18:16 <Ammler> good one 19:18:47 <peter1138> THIS IS SLOW! 19:19:05 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-31-76.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:19:13 <LordAzamath> I somewhere read that saving a game naming it "con" will just crash openttd.. but it gives an error message instead :P 19:19:19 <LordAzamath> and don't crash 19:19:47 <LordAzamath> and I know that one can't have a file named con.* on windows sys :P 19:19:53 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:27 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:20:29 <Sacro> you should not be able to call a file "con" "prn" or "nul" 19:20:42 <Sacro> or C:\Progra~1\ 19:21:56 <Prof_Frink> Good ol' con\con 19:22:23 * Sacro creates a Program~1 folder 19:22:29 <Sacro> apparently it makes windows go fubar 19:22:34 <Sacro> er 19:22:37 <Sacro> Progra~1 19:23:00 <Prof_Frink> I have had two dirs with the same name before 19:23:23 <Prof_Frink> *exactly* the same name, not even different case 19:29:51 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:52 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:29:53 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:54 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:33:35 *** Ammller [~Ammler@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:33:57 *** Mucht- [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:34:20 *** Osai [~Osai@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:34:45 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 19:35:03 *** snorre [~snorre@c51F045C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:08 *** XeryusTC2 [~XeryusTC@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:35:18 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as Xeryus|bnc 19:35:35 *** dihedral [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:35:52 *** hylje_ [~hylje@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:37:00 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-065-188-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:37:58 <peter1138> Mmm, mashed potato 19:38:10 <Forked> this bookmarks thing is pretty cool 19:38:16 <Forked> Belugas: thanks :D 19:38:26 <peter1138> Hmm? 19:38:58 *** stavrosg [~stavrosg@athedsl-243155.home.otenet.gr] has left #openttd [] 19:39:12 *** stavrosg [~stavrosg@athedsl-243155.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 19:39:54 <Belugas> hehe... irony, peter 19:40:10 <Forked> what? :\ 19:40:19 <Forked> sorry I'm just bored while installing a random distro to test something 19:40:36 <Forked> the resolution sucks btw.. 640x480 on a 24" widescreen =p 19:44:16 <Belugas> go and install on a 13" :) 19:44:27 *** dihedral is now known as dih 19:44:30 <Forked> I don't have one :( 19:45:20 <Belugas> lucky you 19:45:21 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:45:23 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:45:32 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:46:02 <Belugas> i've spent quite a good amount of my first year of programing on such a small gizmo 19:46:07 <Belugas> horrific 19:48:09 <Forked> I can't imagine :) 19:51:00 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-190.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51:00 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 19:51:45 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:58:32 *** Barry [~chatzilla@145.18.96.179] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]] 19:59:06 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:44 <LordAzamath> good night *! 19:59:54 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 20:01:00 <peter1138> One of my colleagues asked me the other day... "What does it mean when an email address ends in .ee instead of .co.uk?" 20:01:24 <SmatZ> new station of subway is going to open soon :) 20:01:24 <SmatZ> http://www.novinky.cz/static/flash/videoplayer.swf?video_src=http://video.stream.cz/redir?client=558422098587%26id=novinky_metro_letnany_08022.flv&image_src=http://media.novinky.cz/873/118739-free-s1awi.jpg&miss=http%3A//ad.seznam.cz/miss%3FzoneId%3Dseznam.novinky.videospot.sdeleni%26section%3D/ekonomika&miss_spl=http%3A//ad.seznam.cz/miss%3FzoneId%3Dseznam.novinky.video.sponzor%26section%3D/ekonomika&pr_fifteen=http://stat.novinky.cz?video 20:01:24 <SmatZ> Id=1553&x 20:01:37 <ln-> kick? 20:01:40 <SmatZ> :-x 20:01:45 <SmatZ> it is ontopic 20:01:46 <peter1138> No flash on here. 20:02:11 <ln-> SmatZ: i doubt that's the minimal way to express that url. 20:02:24 <SmatZ> hmm yes sorry :-x 20:02:31 * SmatZ kicks SmatZ 20:02:33 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 20:06:25 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F025.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-154-99.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:08:46 * Belugas is a tiny little bit despaired, as his todo list grows faster than the done one :( 20:09:12 <SpComb> solution: drop the "done" list 20:09:31 <Noldo> another solution: drop the "todo" list 20:09:31 <Belugas> solution wold be somewhere toward the todo, actually :S 20:09:50 <Belugas> problem is that the todo list pays my bills :( 20:10:03 <Noldo> aha 20:10:40 <Noldo> I've managed to keep my "todo list that pays the bills" at work 20:10:43 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F025.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:01 <glx> he's still at work 20:11:31 <Belugas> alas... 20:13:07 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:13:44 <peter1138> Gah, why does this train leave :o 20:13:55 <Gonozal_VIII> you scared it 20:14:00 <peter1138> Harr harr 20:17:34 *** Osai^Kendo [~Osai@pD9EB6F14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^Kendo] 20:20:36 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:42 <Belugas> haaa... 30 Ghosts IV :D 20:21:47 <Belugas> my ears are pleased 20:22:09 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-31-76.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:15 * yorick is sad 20:22:48 * Slowpoke gives yorick a cookie 20:22:59 * yorick eats cookie 20:23:08 * yorick gives cookie to Gonozal_VIII 20:23:18 * Belugas passes a glass of milk 20:23:27 <Belugas> goes well with cookie... 20:23:31 <Gonozal_VIII> baaaah, i don't want digested cookies 20:23:53 * yorick doesn't like milk 20:24:25 * yorick gets some water and passes milk do Gonozal_VII, "goes well with digested cookie.." 20:24:32 <yorick> to* 20:24:37 <Belugas> you ain't going to have anything else form me! 20:24:40 <Belugas> from 20:25:34 * yorick passes move-client-in-companies to Belugas 20:26:05 * peter1138 passes wind 20:26:49 * Belugas passes time 20:26:51 <Belugas> between compilations 20:27:07 <Belugas> so back to 32 ghosts now :) 20:27:53 <Gonozal_VIII> your ghosts are multiplying 20:28:16 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-6-119.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:28:18 <Belugas> nope 20:28:21 <Belugas> 36 20:28:25 <Belugas> no more no less 20:28:30 <Gonozal_VIII> ... 20:28:36 * Belugas hope there would be more :( 20:28:38 <Belugas> +s 20:29:11 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:30:42 <peter1138> Display all 35075 possibilities? (y or n) 20:30:45 <peter1138> Oops :o 20:31:50 <Belugas> Y 20:31:53 <yorick> try redirecting to Gonozal_VIII and pressing y 20:32:14 <Prof_Frink> /exec -o yes 20:32:31 <Belugas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_I-IV <-- for those who a re intrigued by the Ghosts in my machine 20:32:32 <Belugas> hu hu 20:32:53 * peter1138 rebuilds with debug 3... 20:32:59 <peter1138> Thought it was running a bit fast... :) 20:34:38 <peter1138> Might help with the 10 minute compile times too. 20:34:48 <Belugas> hehe 20:36:26 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:42 <peter1138> v == 0x1 is always a fun sign... 20:37:32 <peter1138> 5 minutes instead of 10... betterer. 20:40:53 <peter1138> Hehe, now the GRF scan takes ages instead... 20:41:40 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:49:11 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:38 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 20:54:15 <yorick> goodbye all! 20:54:25 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 20:55:12 <peter1138> Oh, it leaves the depot because the game was saved just after it was told to skip signals... 20:55:21 <peter1138> Nothing bad happens to me after that though. 20:55:48 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:01:19 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-31-76.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:02:21 <Belugas> deliverance!!! 21:02:25 * Belugas goes home :D 21:03:11 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:25 *** Ammler is now known as marcel 21:05:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 21:06:41 *** marcel is now known as Ammler 21:06:47 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: May the ducttape be with you] 21:06:54 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 21:09:38 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:14:10 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-246-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:17:00 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 484 seconds] 21:18:25 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E4DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:18:29 <fjb> Hello 21:32:29 <fjb> Oh, DaleStan is back. 21:32:56 <ln-> not to mention Celestar 21:33:06 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:33:29 <fjb> Is it the big come back day today? 21:37:56 *** nycerine [~lol@ti541110a340-0097.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 21:38:54 <nycerine> Hey. A quick question.. I've been fooling around a lot with railroads, but what can I gain from using the diffrent types of signals? 21:40:38 <fjb> They prevent your trains from crashing. :-) 21:42:15 <fjb> nycerine: Did you bother to read the manual? http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Signals 21:42:27 <nycerine> Well. 21:42:33 <nycerine> I've been using signals for a long while. 21:42:43 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 21:42:48 <nycerine> But not the other ones (that must be with the new ver, or from a grf) 21:43:08 <fjb> Which other ones? 21:43:25 <nycerine> three others. 21:43:43 <nycerine> combination signals, etc. 21:44:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> they are... "new"... as in... like 5 years old... 21:44:20 <fjb> Do you mean they have a different funtion or are only different looking? 21:45:01 <nycerine> aah, sorry. 21:45:14 <nycerine> I should've checked that wiki page. 21:47:55 <fjb> Looking at the manual helps lost of the time. 21:48:02 <fjb> most 21:48:43 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:48:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:49:20 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:30 <fjb> Apropos manual, I was just reading the manual of the new CanSet. And I'm too stupid to understand the shunting example. 21:49:42 <nycerine> CanSet? 21:49:44 <nycerine> hm 21:50:20 <fjb> Canadian train set. 21:51:31 <nycerine> ah. 21:56:56 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:05:07 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:15 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F025.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 22:13:38 *** izhirahider [~izzy@squareroot.divisionbyzero.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:56 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B78930.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 22:17:46 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:20:30 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7893C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:34 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:23:59 *** stevenh [~stevenh@116.66.228.202] has joined #openttd 22:24:21 <stevenh> Howdy all 22:25:11 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:35 <ln-> cos(90°-x) == sin(x) ? 22:26:54 <Patrick`> nnnnyes 22:29:07 <murray> mmmm 22:29:10 <murray> aren't you reversing it 22:29:21 <murray> should be + 22:29:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> cos(90°+x)=sin(-x), sin(-x)=-sin(x), but don't take my word for it 22:29:46 <Patrick`> it's easier to just draw it on a calculator 22:31:42 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-31-76.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:33:26 *** dih is now known as anhedral 22:33:32 *** anhedral is now known as dih 22:35:21 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:29 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:42:13 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: cya on monday evening, 3.3. 22:00 CET] 22:42:52 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-84-254.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:43:45 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 22:56:53 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 22:58:11 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 22:58:27 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:59:03 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai^zZz`off 23:01:29 *** Osai^zZz`off is now known as Osai 23:08:38 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:01 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 23:11:32 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:17:06 *** SpBot [terom@marttila.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:33 <dih> good night ladies 23:22:42 *** dih is now known as anhedral 23:24:23 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-153-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:26:29 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:28:23 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B78930.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:27 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-177.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:46:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-177.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:50:56 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:14 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@74.58.26.147] has joined #openttd 23:51:31 <dragonhorseboy> I think I found a silly bug in beta5 hehe :p 23:52:12 <dragonhorseboy> I think you can replica it....try make any scenario with the lighthouses sitting on foundations ... then start a game...and try to raise the land underneath the lighthouses flat (as in ridding the foundations) -- it doesn't want to let you 23:53:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> a) the real bug is letting lighthouses be built on foundations [i thought that was fixed] 23:54:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> b) unmovables are designed to not let you terraform underneath them 23:54:58 <dragonhorseboy> well this silly lighthouse is in the way of fixing a long sloped face as to be able to put some rails without a klink curve in it -_- 23:55:15 <dragonhorseboy> meh..guess 88km/h trains will have to sufficent I guess? 23:55:23 <Patrick`> huh? 23:55:26 <Patrick`> foundations? 23:55:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is exactly the purpose of a lighthouse 23:56:41 <Patrick`> aha, ok, yeah 23:56:54 <Patrick`> the bug is permitting construction of lighthouses on foundations 23:57:07 <Patrick`> my terminology was rusty 23:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is what i said... only in passive ;) 23:58:35 <Patrick`> someone's put lively rivers in as a ttdpatch feature in ottd 23:58:37 <Patrick`> probably not right 23:58:58 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-153-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:02 <dragonhorseboy> patrick...yeah if terraforming can't be done underneath lighthouses then I say make them NOT build themself onto foundatins in first place? heheeh :-> 23:59:11 <DaleStan> "lively rivers"? 23:59:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> "lively rivers" is not a ttdpatch feature... it is a project for automatically generating rivers on the map