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00:02:29 <emjay88> yeah it is 00:03:10 <emjay88> so in the help for grfcodec where it says the palette option (-p) is to use a different palette to the default... 00:03:26 <emjay88> is the default the one in the grf file or is it the same as -p 1 00:04:11 <Rubidium> the GRF doesn't store the palette 00:04:27 <emjay88> right, the obg is for building the grf right? 00:04:45 <emjay88> or is it just used by openttd? 00:05:15 <Rubidium> it's used by OpenTTD to find the base graphics 00:06:43 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.187.91] has joined #openttd 00:07:15 <emjay88> is the wiki page up to day? 00:07:18 <emjay88> date* 00:07:19 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 00:07:33 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.187.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:05 <Rubidium> can't answer that; I guess you need to ask someone that is actually involved in that project 00:08:28 <emjay88> ok cool 00:09:12 <emjay88> last question for now: do black regions in the pcx files mean something special? (i assume it's transparent or something?) 00:09:34 <Rubidium> the blue is transparent 00:10:51 <emjay88> so black means nothing? 00:11:10 <Rubidium> black is just a placeholder so it doesn't cause glitches in OpenTTD 00:11:39 <Rubidium> you can see those black boxes when you start openttd with OpenGFX as base graphics set in the main menu 00:12:28 <emjay88> No i mean the black areas in the original graphics (trg1r is what I'm looking at now) they seem to be silhouettes of buildings? 00:15:09 <Rubidium> it should be blue as in http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=99910 00:15:27 <Rubidium> if it's really black then you've probably used the wrong palette 00:16:04 <Bjarni> <SmatZ> [22:43:21] <Bjarni> el_en: pisst.... Ottawa <== frosch123 was right about "hours spent googling" :-D <--- I don't need google for that. Besides it's kind of hard to answer right away when I'm not at the computer 00:17:21 <emjay88> No the background is blue like that 00:17:46 <emjay88> hmmm, if you can, have a look at 4438 in trg1r.pcx 00:17:49 <Rubidium> oh, those black areas 00:18:09 <Rubidium> press x while in game to toggle the transparency and you'll see 00:18:48 <emjay88> sadly, I'm at work now so I can't but I'll have a go when I get home :) 00:20:13 <Rubidium> a building is build with (at least) two sprites. One is the ground sprite which has those black places where the 'building' sprite is shown 00:21:48 <emjay88> ok, so the black places are sort of placeholders? 00:22:30 <Rubidium> yes, to make the buildings not glitchy when transparent 00:23:00 <Rubidium> the sprites containing the black are also the parts that are not made transparent 00:23:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.39.185] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:23:31 <emjay88> ok, so parts of the building that are covering black areas stay visible when transparency is turned on 00:24:31 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:28:41 <Rubidium> no, the sprites with the black areas don't get transparent. Whatever covers those sprites get transparent 00:29:40 <Brokkoli> isn't the whole "upper" sprite transparent? 00:30:23 <Brokkoli> the buildingbasesprite unchanged and the buildingsprite transparent? 00:30:58 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:01 <emjay88> ok, I see 00:33:08 <Brokkoli> so it's not required to be black, but looks a bit better, when the buildings are transparent 00:33:40 <emjay88> ahhh 00:38:06 <emjay88> do my new graphics have to fit within a same-size box as the originals? 00:40:19 <Sacro> hmm, what anti-virus do I use... 00:41:28 <Rubidium> emjay88: as long as they aren't wider than a tile you can do basically everything 00:42:29 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has joined #openttd 00:44:47 <emjay88> ok, so height is not a problem, but the width is restricted 00:44:48 <emjay88> ? 00:45:21 <Brokkoli> yes 00:45:37 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 00:45:41 <Brokkoli> i think height is restricted somewhere, too 00:46:14 <Brokkoli> but i don't know about the limits 00:46:53 <Rubidium> the height is restricted somewhere, but reaching that limit means that your building is really incredibly high 00:47:14 <emjay88> Ok, so Ill try to fit it in the original box, and if I need to go up a bit it'll be ok 00:47:20 <Brokkoli> yes 00:47:28 <emjay88> cool, no sweat :) 00:47:33 <emjay88> thanks for your help guys 00:51:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15757 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: -Fix/hackaround (r15314): of course on some system searching a font using its english name fails. So now we search the font using the localised name and use the english name for the final 'validation' only. 00:55:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15758 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: -Fix (r15757): win9x compilation 00:57:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15759 /extra/ottd_grf/split/ (openttdgui.nfo openttdgui.pcx): [OTTD_GRF] -Add: sprite for resizing to the left (for better RTL support) 01:02:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:46 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 01:06:04 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 01:07:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15760 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange [FS#2704]: support that the resize box is at the left side of the window too (based on work by Alberth) 01:09:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93.81.215.197] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:13:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:53 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 01:27:20 <welshdragon> if i give a tram 2 orders will it call at all stations in between? 01:27:45 <Zuu> If you make sure you don't have "non-stop" in its orders. 01:28:05 <welshdragon> oh good 01:28:12 <welshdragon> thans zuu 01:44:49 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-71fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:50:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:52 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 02:17:18 *** tug [~tug@ppp85-141-91-239.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: tug] 02:36:26 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57:07 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@f054023253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Ich werde morgen frÃŒh mal so richtig gepflegt Kuchen backen.] 03:00:50 <emjay88> does anyone here use blender in ubuntu? 03:08:42 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:17:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.119.69] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 03:38:37 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:06 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 03:42:28 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:02:12 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 04:15:24 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:15:24 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:28 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 04:27:32 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:06:21 <Forked> morning 05:21:26 <emjay88> afternoon :P 05:23:56 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm127.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 05:28:33 <emjay88> anyone know how to set palettes in GIMP? 05:46:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.160.189] has joined #openttd 05:49:52 <Rubidium> colours->map->set colourmap? 05:51:46 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 05:53:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.206.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:54:22 <emjay88> ahh thanks 05:54:52 *** emjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:01:43 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:11:37 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 06:12:41 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 06:12:43 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 06:18:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:28:03 <dih> mornings 06:28:54 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:32:57 <petern> several of them 07:10:06 <Forked> boioioing.. 07:17:55 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.14] has joined #openttd 07:21:43 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:21:59 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:24:10 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:41 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 07:33:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.160.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:39 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.244.223.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 07:41:17 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:51:58 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:57 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:15:33 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.244.223.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:16:22 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:20:04 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:20:39 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:35 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:23:38 <Timitry> Morning 08:26:15 <Timitry> Hehe, our friend Alain encountered a new problem, again 08:26:21 <Timitry> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=773885#p773885 08:26:51 <Timitry> I'm still surprised how far he gets with his approach... 08:33:36 *** tug [~tug@ppp85-141-91-239.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 08:36:32 <dih> ban ^^ 08:38:43 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-work 08:43:24 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.14] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 08:46:43 *** tug [~tug@ppp85-141-91-239.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: tug] 08:56:49 <Timitry> Man... I can't get the 32bpp-graphics to work... 08:57:18 <Timitry> 1. Downloaded graphics and put them somewhere in my /data - folder, e.g. the NoZoom-Megapack and the new Traindepot 08:57:42 <Timitry> 2. In the config, i added blitter = "32bpp-simple" 08:57:55 <Timitry> 3. And tried changing sprite_cache_size to 64 08:58:35 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-163.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:00:31 <Timitry> Well, in fact, i added blitter = 32bpp_simple, but the game changed it to blitter = "32bpp-simple" 09:01:06 <Timitry> Both under [misc], using a clean r15595 and no NewGRFs 09:06:18 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:40 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has joined #openttd 09:13:01 <petern> do you have dos or windows original graphics? 09:13:21 <petern> (although i don't know if that matters any more) 09:25:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:33:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.189] has joined #openttd 09:33:46 <HerzogDeXtEr> Discussion of realism is now a quietable offence :D 09:33:50 <HerzogDeXtEr> nice 09:34:17 <HerzogDeXtEr> openttd and realism, i hate ppl that need realism in games ;) 09:37:33 <Timitry> Got the windows-graphics, both the original and the opengfx ones 09:37:45 <Timitry> The Game uses the Original ones... 09:38:23 <Timitry> I tried deleting my openttd.cfg, and then changing the blitter in the new one again... No effect 09:38:46 <Rubidium> Timitry: try selecting the opengfx one in e.g. the game options 09:39:03 <Rubidium> in the main menu 09:39:18 <Timitry> I copied the 32bpp-files in both my games/openttd/data and the userdata/openttd/data folder 09:39:46 <Timitry> Rubidium: Changing them works, but still no 32bpp-graphics are shown 09:39:50 <petern> files? it's only one file 09:41:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g229222112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:41:21 <Timitry> aha... 09:41:29 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:42:05 <Timitry> okay, my bad... 09:42:15 <Timitry> like you already guessed anyway :D 09:43:01 <petern> Rubidium, are you aware of any plans for supporting multiple (hahaha) 32bpp base replacement sets? 09:43:25 <petern> for individual newgrfs it's simple, of course 09:43:31 <petern> well, fairly 09:43:48 <Rubidium> no, and should I? 09:44:00 <Rubidium> let there first be one ;) 09:44:21 <petern> just asking a simple question... no need to read anything more into it :p 09:45:09 <Rubidium> or more like half 09:46:40 <petern> well 09:47:09 <petern> i've done 9 sprites so far ;) 09:48:03 <Rubidium> so only 499 promille to go till you've reached half of the sprites ;) 10:00:15 *** Yeggs-work [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:16 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:15:23 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-15.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 10:18:06 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.16] has joined #openttd 10:22:19 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:20 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:22 <Timitry> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=773885#p773885 Just curious... Was my advice at least a little bit right? :) 10:29:52 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g229222112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:52 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 10:32:03 * dih will not engage 10:32:29 *** dih is now known as dihedral 10:39:26 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-163.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 10:42:25 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48:18 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-163.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:53:12 <Rubidium> Timitry: by the looks of it it wasn't 11:07:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 11:11:26 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:15 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:20:42 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:22:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-163.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 11:29:48 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:35 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-15.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:44 <dihedral> @seen energetic 11:54:44 <DorpsGek> dihedral: energetic was last seen in #openttd 2 days, 14 hours, 35 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <energetic> in openttd code, does performance has prio over readability? 11:57:20 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:02:52 *** genclay [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:04:17 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:04:24 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:14 <Mark> Will path based signals be in 0.7.*? 12:21:45 <dihedral> ?? 12:21:58 <dihedral> they already are 12:28:42 *** mikl [~mikl@dhcp220.cohaesio.com] has joined #openttd 12:29:51 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:31:58 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@f054020141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:33:00 <petern> last minute removal! 12:36:30 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:30 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 12:36:44 <dihedral> hehe ^^ 12:37:50 <Mark> dihedral: Okay. :) 12:37:53 <dihedral> by the way 12:38:09 <Timitry> How do i checkout the 07.rc1 12:38:10 <Timitry> ? 12:38:19 <dihedral> why were the "'setting' change to <new value>" console print outs removed 12:38:26 <dihedral> it's been gone for a long time 12:38:49 <Mark> I'm only using a nightly and hav'nt tried 0.7.* yet, therefore the question. :) 12:38:53 <dihedral> svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.7.0-rc1 i'd assume 12:39:06 <Timitry> okay, will try that, thanks 12:39:16 <dihedral> svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.7.0-RC1 12:39:35 <dihedral> Mark, which nightly are you using? 12:43:31 <Mark> Oh, kindaÀ old 12:43:35 <Mark> kinda'* 12:43:42 <Mark> r14782 12:43:43 <Mark> :) 12:52:17 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B8094A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:07 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B80DD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:57:30 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:57:35 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 13:07:40 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 13:07:41 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:45 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:08:31 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-14-36.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:08:34 <pavel1269> hi 13:09:28 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [] 13:15:03 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.32.253] has joined #openttd 13:27:26 *** Aygar [~dupontct@160.129.129.80] has joined #openttd 13:28:35 <Aygar> Hey, are there any developers here? 13:29:06 <Aygar> I have question about where a patch would be welcomed. 13:29:24 <Aygar> *where -> whether 13:30:12 <pavel1269> forums? 13:30:17 <Rubidium> no, there're no developers in Japan ;) 13:30:19 <pavel1269> see if ppl like it .... FS? 13:30:24 <Rubidium> there was one a year ago though ;) 13:30:50 <Belugas> people 13:31:04 *** mikl [~mikl@dhcp220.cohaesio.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:05 <Rubidium> mostly people with ops or voice here are the developers 13:31:07 <Belugas> pr maybe you meant pretty please? 13:32:35 <Aygar> Its a patch that adds NOR pre- and combo- signals. 13:32:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:32:57 <dihedral> lol Belugas 13:32:58 <dihedral> :-) 13:33:26 <dihedral> yet another bunch of signals 13:33:39 <Aygar> I looked in the forumns but couldn't find if there was any views one way or another about adding signals 13:33:40 <Rubidium> NOR = red when all exit signals are green? 13:33:58 <Aygar> yes, 13:34:01 <dihedral> makes sense.....? 13:34:27 <[wito]> dihedral: sure it does 13:34:28 <Aygar> Red when train in block or any exit signal is green 13:34:46 <Aygar> Green only when all exit signals are red 13:35:02 <dihedral> means you need to mangle with other signal type 13:35:02 <Aygar> and no train in block 13:35:04 <[wito]> so used for load balancing then? 13:35:30 <Aygar> yes, mostly 13:36:05 *** Tim [~chatzilla@port-92-192-77-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:36:15 <Aygar> example would be the compressor structure for opentddcoop PSG 131 13:36:23 *** Tim [~chatzilla@port-92-192-77-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [] 13:36:53 <Aali> and now that you've mentioned ottdcoop, there's no chance in hell for this to happen 13:37:07 <Aygar> but using signals instead of trains in external rail loops 13:37:49 <Aygar> Ah, I see 13:38:03 <Rubidium> guess you rather want programmable signals 13:38:41 <Aygar> That would be the ideal solution. How ever looking at the code it would take major revisions to make that happen 13:39:42 <Rubidium> better do it right the first time then ending up with 20 signals types and 1 programmable signal type that covers 15 of those signal types 13:40:33 <Aygar> At most you would end up with 6 additional signals. AND NAND NOR. 13:40:53 <Aygar> pre-signal and combo-signal variants 13:41:16 <Rubidium> then you think of NOT 13:41:25 <Rubidium> and XOR 13:41:28 <Rubidium> and NXOR 13:41:36 <Aygar> thats a NOR with only one input 13:42:08 <[wito]> heh 13:42:26 <Aali> what about the infinite loop issue? 13:42:33 <[wito]> With programmable signals, you could probably build a turing machine in OpenTTD 13:42:42 <Aygar> Really from a logic point of view you only need a NOR or a NAND 13:42:53 <Noldo> [wito]: there are quite interesting structures already 13:42:56 <Rubidium> ssh... ottdcoop's computers are fast enough to cope with infinite loops 13:43:41 <Aygar> Aali: thats refered to as an ocilator. Its a feature not a bug. 13:43:44 <Aygar> :) 13:44:06 <Aali> "ok" 13:44:28 <Rubidium> "not ok" 13:44:47 <Aali> have you tested this patch of yours? 13:44:56 <dihedral> Rubidium, hehe :-P 13:44:57 <Aygar> Some what 13:45:24 <Rubidium> has anyone with knowledge of the signalling system reviewed your patch? 13:45:28 <Aali> you'll see that the infinite loop I'm talking about isn't quite what you would want, ever 13:45:43 <dihedral> Rubidium, nope, he came here for that ;-) 13:46:02 <dihedral> first time he's here, first time he's talking to 'a' dev 13:46:22 <Timitry> Is there a way to save all the warnings MinGW/MSys gives me while compiling to a .txt file or something like that? 13:46:36 <Rubidium> Timitry: > 13:46:39 <Aygar> mainly I am testing the waters to see what the reception for something like it would be before investing large amounts of time in it only to have it shot down with 'we don't accept patches of that sort' 13:47:20 <Timitry> > warning.txt ? 13:47:21 <Forked> Rubidium: just warnings/errors is "2>" isn't it? 13:47:29 <glx> 2> indeed 13:47:37 <glx> better is > log 2>&1 13:47:37 <Noldo> bug fixes are the way to go if you want your name on the svn log 13:47:48 <[wito]> Aygar: a patch doesn't need to go in trunk to be successful 13:48:09 <Timitry> So, do i need that command to the make command, or to ./configure, or can i do it afterwards=? 13:48:11 <[wito]> personally I loves me my cargodest 13:48:23 <[wito]> but that's not in trunk (yet [pokes Rubidium]) 13:48:24 <Rubidium> and the lower flyspray id of the bug you fix, the higher the chances you become a developer ;) 13:48:30 <glx> Timitry: make >log 2>&1 13:48:51 <glx> (don't use -j when you redirect output ;) ) 13:48:56 <Timitry> just that, or do i need to specify the name of the output file? 13:49:08 <glx> log is the filename 13:49:11 <Aygar> Aali: I was trying (failing) to make a joke. So would an example be a NOR signal that loops back on to another NOR signal? 13:49:54 <Rubidium> looping back on itself is more interesting 13:50:55 <Rubidium> what colour will it be? 13:51:44 <Aygar> good question 13:51:53 <[wito]> It's a paradox 13:52:22 <[wito]> But any signal looping back on itself is an error, and should be permanently red, irrespective of it's internal mechanisms 13:52:40 <[wito]> two NOR signals looping on each other is much more interesting 13:53:36 <Aygar> Rubidium: it would be the colour of problem. 13:54:54 <Timitry> "make >log 2>&1" doesn't do anything, the log just tells me "nothing to be done here" 13:55:02 <Aygar> I now see what Aali is referring to 13:55:12 <Timitry> ah no, sorry 13:55:57 <Timitry> Seems like it does work :) 13:56:20 <Aygar> So back to the programming wall with me. 14:01:05 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest600 14:01:05 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:05 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 14:01:19 <petern> hhurrrr 14:03:24 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet608.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:04:18 *** Guest600 [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:55 <Timitry> the css validator on the mainpage openttd.org does not validate the page... 14:15:16 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-14-36.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 14:16:06 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:17:27 <[wito]> Timitry: how do you figure? 14:17:58 <[wito]> looks valid enough to me 14:18:01 <Timitry> bottom of the page, and click the css-valid logo 14:19:48 <[wito]> one error is due to validation against the wrong profile (it should be validated against 3, not 2.1) 14:20:16 <[wito]> the other is a browser-specific declaration which is still syntactically valid and can be ignored safely. 14:22:05 <Timitry> Yes, i read the errors that were found, it's just that i think if you place the valid-logo there, the validation shouldn't fail 14:23:33 <[wito]> Then you don't understand how CSS works 14:24:07 <[wito]> That CSS file is, for all intents and purposes perfectly valid 14:25:09 <[wito]> It's not a valid CSS 2.1 file, but that claim isn't made in the first place 14:25:36 <[wito]> it just happens to be the default profile 14:26:29 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:26:40 <[wito]> Sacro: you're going bankrupt, man! 14:27:02 <Sacro> grr, can people stop using brackets 14:27:07 <Sacro> How much do I have? 14:28:03 <[wito]> Sacro: good clients will allow you to type wi\t 14:28:06 <[wito]> and you'll get me 14:28:41 <Sacro> nope 14:28:46 <[wito]> 1,1M£, and hemmhoraging at 600k£/year 14:29:36 <[wito]> you'll be bankrupt by the end of next year unless drastic action is taken 14:30:53 <[wito]> Immediate action. :P 14:32:44 <[wito]> anyway 14:34:36 <Sacro> hehe 14:34:40 <Sacro> what year is it? 14:34:48 <[wito]> 2088 14:35:16 <[wito]> but since it's gone this far 14:35:20 <[wito]> let it run to 2100 14:39:18 <Sacro> hmm 14:39:30 <Sacro> I need to send Brianetta an ssh cert again 14:41:08 *** KenjiE20|SSH [~KenjiE20@92.17.32.253] has joined #openttd 14:41:12 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:42:03 <[wito]> I do take objection at a difficulty setting, tho' 14:42:16 <[wito]> Trains reversing at stations? What is this madness? 14:43:20 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.32.253] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 14:43:33 <Sacro> use signals to stop them 14:44:53 <[wito]> well, the issue is that if I build a station with a terminal depot, the train never visits it 14:47:07 <Noldo> your building is faulty then for that given set of settings 14:48:01 <[wito]> Indeed 14:48:05 <[wito]> or rather 14:48:22 <[wito]> there are subtleties 14:48:37 <[wito]> in this particular situation, breakdowns are also disabled 14:48:58 <[wito]> so trains never actually NEED to visit the depot in the first place 14:49:21 <[wito]> So the issue isn't really that trains don't get serviced (they don't need to), it's that they aren't autorenewed 14:49:27 <[wito]> leading to annoying messages. :P 14:51:36 <Sacro> tell them them to viist the depot if they need to 14:51:58 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:21 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 14:56:23 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:49 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:09:34 <el_en> ¿dónde está el señor Eddi|enCasa? 15:13:56 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:12 <Belugas> 3 15:14:20 <Belugas> 2 15:14:25 <Belugas> 1 15:14:47 *** el_en was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [chai-tu moi, ou il est?] 15:15:18 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 15:15:22 <el_en> English only 15:15:48 <Belugas> indeed 15:15:53 <petern> quoi? 15:16:51 <petern> did you know 15:16:54 <petern> the sun 15:16:57 <petern> smells too loud 15:17:50 <dihedral> petern, you forgot the /me in front of that :-D 15:20:29 <petern> it's all about /you isn't it? 15:20:34 <Belugas> dihedral, Head Down 15:20:48 * dihedral ducks 15:21:00 <petern> thank you space expert 15:21:08 <dihedral> quack 15:21:44 <Belugas> You Know what You Are? 15:22:26 <petern> i'm jim morrison, i'm dead 15:22:30 <Belugas> lol 15:22:39 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.32.253] has joined #openttd 15:22:56 <Belugas> perfect cross reference, petern :D 15:23:06 *** KenjiE20|SSH [~KenjiE20@92.17.32.253] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6] 15:23:53 *** ecke [~ecke@pc127-40.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 15:24:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 15:25:17 *** ecke [~ecke@pc127-40.upce.cz] has quit [] 15:27:02 <petern> who blew up the content server? heh 15:29:29 <Belugas> the answer my friend 15:29:33 <Belugas> is blowing in the wind 15:30:06 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:50 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 15:32:19 *** ecke [~ecke@pc127-40.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 15:35:23 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:33 <Rubidium> petern: lighty 15:38:38 <Rubidium> it was consuming a mere 630 MB of memory 15:39:09 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 15:39:11 <dihedral> heh - openttd used to do that to me a few weeks ago 15:39:42 <Rubidium> dihedral: virtual memory != real memory 15:39:50 <Rubidium> I'm talking about 630 MB of real memory 15:40:11 <Rubidium> i.e. that part of the ps aux that kept below 100 MB, not the part that grew to several GB 15:40:16 <dihedral> oh - nice ^^ 15:40:39 <dihedral> odly enough - on the vps openttd ran for me, that made no diff 15:40:51 <dihedral> free gave the output as if it were real mem 15:45:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:27 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 15:48:17 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 15:48:42 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:54:54 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:34 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:04:01 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:04:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:04 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 16:05:10 <petern> DON'T YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU ARE 16:08:54 <pavel1269> i know 16:09:06 <Rubidium> I don't 16:09:22 <pavel1269> i hope so :-) 16:16:31 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm127.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: scrub scrub scrub all the floors in hyrule] 16:18:09 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:18:35 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:27:23 *** ecke [~ecke@pc127-40.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:28:08 *** genclay [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:01 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:32:35 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:33:10 *** Cutter [Cutter@sev93-1-82-227-246-168.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:12 <Cutter> hi 16:33:39 <Cutter> new eletric engines appear but the eletric rails aren't even available! 16:33:51 <Cutter> I'm playing in the desert 16:33:53 <Cutter> wtf 16:36:53 *** Mortal is now known as Guest616 16:38:40 <el_en> how do you get power for your computer in the desert? 16:39:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:38 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:40:46 <glx> there are no electric engines in tropical/desert landscape 16:42:22 <pavel1269> maybye with grf? 16:42:31 <pavel1269> and cutter, dont you have elrails off? 16:42:42 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest617 16:42:43 *** Guest616 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:43 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:13 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48:22 *** Guest617 [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:33 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm127.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:49:12 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:40 <Cutter> pavel1269: don't know but I did't turn them off 16:54:17 <pavel1269> well, if u have it off, you should be able to buid them in normal depo ^^ 16:55:00 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37D924.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:12 <Rubidium> monorail/maglev trains are electric too 16:55:32 <pavel1269> but you cant ingame turn them off :-) 16:56:40 <Rubidium> pavel1269: huh? 16:57:16 <Rubidium> Cutter: what is the name of the new electric engines and when did they appear? 16:57:23 <pavel1269> hmm hmm .... nvm me 16:58:16 <Cutter> Rubidium: yes but I've seen at least two news about a new eletric engine, and I have only one monorail engine available atm 16:58:37 *** Belgabor [~Belgabor@p5B2EEAFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:47 <Cutter> and I didn't catch ther name 16:59:31 <Belgabor> hi everybody, would someone know where (in the code) I can find at which zoom level small views (eg of the train ui) are drawn? 17:01:07 <Rubidium> Belgabor: I'd say the constructor of the vehicle gui 17:02:59 <Belgabor> ah ok, was this recently introcduced? Sowething between rev 15600-something and now seems to have change in this regard, as the extra soom level patch is clearly not working correctly there =) 17:03:22 <Belgabor> *changed *zoom 17:03:41 <Rubidium> no 17:04:39 <Rubidium> I reckon your patch failed to apply or compilation failed and you're now using an old binary 17:04:47 <Belgabor> strange. The patch applied pretty much cleanly but now everything small (including the news reports) is drawn at max soom 17:04:50 <Belgabor> *zoom 17:07:33 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db035e0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:07:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fda83.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:19 * Rubidium ponders how long it takes until people start reporting desyncs when they've got the copy-paste patch applied 17:08:54 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:54 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:10:28 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:11:38 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:14:19 *** lobstar is now known as lobster 17:14:28 <Belgabor> Since I neither have that patch applied nor play multiplayer, it certainly won't be me ;-) 17:16:55 <Belgabor> Ok, you were right. Dependency/stale object file issue. Sorry for the noise. 17:22:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:23:17 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 17:23:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:23:32 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FAD6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:24:05 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:25:29 <Belugas> o_O 17:25:39 <Belugas> there was a dvd-cd player on that new machine 17:25:59 <Belugas> but it did not had power supply plugged in 17:26:09 <Belugas> how fucking usefull is that... 17:26:50 <Rubidium> apparantly a dvd player is cheaper than a front for the slot 17:26:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:08 <Rubidium> (and that really doesn't suprise me) 17:29:14 <Belugas> at work, nothing shouls surprise me anymore... 17:30:20 <frosch123> -Feature: Block downloading BaNaNaS stuff for one day, when the user tries to download everything 17:33:15 <Belugas> Download The Internet 17:36:53 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:37:43 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:39 *** helb_ is now known as helb 17:40:31 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 17:43:03 <pavel1269> Rubidium: i was talking just about situations i saw there, you are talking about stuff in bigger picture, which was totaly right there ... :-) 17:44:17 <Rubidium> I still don't get your reply though 17:47:58 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 17:48:28 <pavel1269> hehe 17:49:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15761 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): 17:49:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-18 17:44:55 17:49:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 10 fixed by tifached (10) 17:49:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 4 fixed by adjayanto (4) 17:49:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: japanese - 60 fixed by ickoonite (60) 17:49:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 5 fixed by silentKnight (5) 17:49:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: russian - 4 fixed by Smoky555 (4) 17:50:31 *** energetic [opera@89.205.134.1] has joined #openttd 17:50:41 *** energetic [opera@89.205.134.1] has left #openttd [] 17:51:44 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:53:12 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 17:55:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15762 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: inlined utf8 chars are not handled properly on eastern version of windows so escape them 18:01:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:22 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:18 *** Belgabor [~Belgabor@p5B2EEAFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:17:58 <pavel1269> if i just add global variable to src/saveload/misc_sl.cpp.... after load, is it loaded? ... 18:21:44 <Belugas> yes, no, it depends 18:22:44 <Belugas> simply declaring a variable on that file will not make it a loadable-savable one 18:25:47 <pavel1269> ehh ... its declared in date.cpp :-) 18:26:01 <pavel1269> and ... added that SLEG_ 18:26:35 <pavel1269> *added relevant 18:30:03 <Yexo> why don't you just try whether it works? 18:31:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:03 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:35:01 * Belugas agrees with Yexo 18:35:14 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 18:35:22 <Darkvater> gah, some idiot pulled the plug on my server :s 18:35:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 18:38:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 18:38:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:38:49 * Darkvater waves at Belugas 18:39:09 <Belugas> how a-propos :D 18:39:23 * Belugas waves back in a great big splash! 18:39:55 * Darkvater ponders an Intel X25-M SSD disc 18:39:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228021114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:58 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:40:28 <Prof_Frink> It's not really a disc, is it? 18:40:35 <Darkvater> drive then 18:40:55 <Darkvater> too bad it's ~300 EUR for a measily 80GB's 18:43:24 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:43:47 <Belugas> what use you'll have for it? just curious 18:43:53 <Darkvater> OS-drive 18:44:04 <Darkvater> my HD is soooo slow it makes me mad 18:44:11 <Darkvater> even after defag 18:45:39 * Darkvater will ponder a bit more in peace :) 18:45:55 <Belugas> ahooooummmm 18:45:56 <petern> get 24 of them 18:45:59 <Belugas> ahoooooouum 18:45:59 <petern> in a raid 18:49:39 <Prof_Frink> rared. 18:49:57 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:06 <Prof_Frink> Redundant Array of Rather Expensive Dis^H^Hrives 18:55:36 *** [com]buster is now known as [gone]buster 19:00:07 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:26 *** ecke [~ecke@pc126-178.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 19:06:26 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0FA40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:08:17 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:09:23 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:19:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:30:06 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejc198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:32:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15763 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange/Fix: Add Engine::GetDisplayDefaultCapacity() and use it everywhere, so CB 36 is also used everywhere. 19:38:00 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 19:47:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15764 /branches/0.7/src/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) 19:47:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 19:47:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Number of houses in house variables 0x44, 0x60 and 0x61 were incorrect after 0xFF had been reached and could desync clients joining afterwards (r15755) 19:47:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash when clicking the small area between the savegame list and the save button in the save game window [FS#2742] (r15753) 19:47:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not try to (un)draw the cursor when the screen is not ready (r15752) 19:47:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: The big UFO sometimes landed just outside the map. Instead of landing, just disappear (fly away) in those cases (r15750) 19:47:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash because submarines would sometimes start far outside of the map [FS#2739] (r15748) 19:49:28 *** ecke [~ecke@pc126-178.upce.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15765 /branches/0.7/src/ (14 files in 3 dirs): 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Change: [NewGRF] Expose GRF ID of engines in var action property 0x25 (r15739) 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Add Engine::GetDisplayDefaultCapacity() and use it everywhere, so CB 36 is also used everywhere (r15763) 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: [Windows] Inlined UTF-8 characters (in the source code) are not handled properly on Eastern versions of Windows so escape them (r15762) 19:50:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: [Windows] On some system searching a font using its English name fails. So now we search the font using the localised name and use the English name for the final 'validation' only (r15757) 19:50:52 *** Mark [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:56:41 *** Mark__ [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:41 *** energetic [opera@94.157.147.233] has joined #openttd 19:58:31 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0FA40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 20:01:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:01:34 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm127.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: matchpan] 20:10:26 <Aali> hmm 20:11:13 <Aali> has the "multiple downloads" BaNaNaS bug been fixed? 20:12:55 <Rubidium> what bug? 20:12:56 <Aali> (the one where you click the download button multiple times and it keeps spawning windows and overall messes up?) 20:13:27 <Rubidium> has it been reported? 20:13:37 <Aali> dunno, thats why I asked 20:13:42 <Belugas> why wold you keep on clicking that button? 20:13:53 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 20:13:58 <SmatZ> [21:11:16] <Aali> has the "multiple downloads" BaNaNaS bug been fixed? <== everyone knows about that bug, apart from devs apparently :-p 20:14:11 <Aali> heh 20:14:28 <Aali> someone on ottdcoop found it, in r15712 20:14:36 <pavel1269> and this says dev :-P 20:14:59 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0C7EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:32 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:18:52 <Belugas> [16:16] <pavel1269> and this says dev :-P <-- ho yeah? 20:18:56 <Belugas> since when? 20:20:28 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:44 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 20:20:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 20:22:50 <glx> <Aali> someone on ottdcoop found it, in r15712 <-- they used to report bugs but not this one 20:24:12 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 20:24:14 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:24:18 *** energetic [opera@94.157.147.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:25 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 20:25:50 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:35 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37D924.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 20:26:44 <Belugas> maybe it's not reproductible? 20:28:09 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:35:36 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:40:08 *** energetic2 [opera@94.157.150.122] has joined #openttd 20:40:37 <energetic2> @seen TrueBrain 20:40:37 <DorpsGek> energetic2: TrueBrain was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <TrueBrain> valhallasw: good luck with your RoboCom 20:46:31 <colde> where does openttd save screenshots on 64 bit vista? 20:50:30 <Belugas> i have no idea 20:50:30 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:38 <Belugas> can you search for it? 20:50:56 <Belugas> when you have done the screenshot, the system always tell you the name of it 20:50:57 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:51:24 <Rubidium> the same place where it saves openttd.cfg 20:51:35 <Rubidium> which is likely "my documents\openttd" 20:52:14 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:59:28 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:59:28 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejc198.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:00:20 <colde> Rubidium: i'll look there thx 21:00:38 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:24 <Brianetta> Anybody have an idea why my server doesn't un-pause when players join? 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